Hello, I'm
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I'd like to welcome
you and also invite you
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to join us today on
Heaven's Point of View.
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On our previous programs
we finished studying the
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9 charisma gifts
of the Holy Spirit.
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Those gifts were given to
protect the church by moving
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into the
authority of the believer.
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On today's program, we'll begin
an overview of the 5 doma gifts
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given by Jesus for the
perfection of the church.
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These gifts are the apostles,
prophets, evangelists, pastors,
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and teachers.
Today we are starting
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with the gift of the apostle.
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So I encourage you to get your
Bibles, follow along with us,
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and we'll take a look at
the five-fold ministry gifts
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from Heaven's Point of View.
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You know, many people,
laity, ministry, don't realize
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that the gifts of the Holy
Spirit and the gifts in the
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Book of Ephesians are actually
two completely different types
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of gifts. The gifts of the
Holy Spirit are charisma gifts
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while the gifts in
Ephesians are doma gifts.
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Now, charisma means
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Now, what that is saying is
that this is something that is
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given by the Holy Spirit
that you cannot earn and you
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cannot learn this gift.
It is given as He so desires.
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Now the second gift that we will
be looking at is the doma gift.
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Moreso than what this
gift does is what this gift is
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and who you are. Not
just what you can do,
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but who you actually
are. Now, let's look at our
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foundational scripture
for this teaching today.
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Ephesians 4:8-13 says:
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"Whereas he sayeth when
He ascended [now get this]
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when He ascended up on
high, He led captivity captive
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and He gave gifts unto men. "
In verse 8 it is clear that the
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gifts given there are given
by Jesus not the Holy Spirit.
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He gave these gifts to men, and
He gave them at His ascension.
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These ascension
gifts had not, HAD NOT
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been in existence at any
time before this endowment.
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Please keep in mind that
the Old Testament prophet
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and the New Testament
prophet came into being from two
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completely different sources.
The Old Testament prophets
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were ordained by God - while
the New Testament prophet gift
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was given by
Jesus at His ascension.
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Now, verse 9 says: "That He
ascended, what is it but that He
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also descended first into
the lower parts of the earth.
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He that descended is the same
also that ascended up far above
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all heavens that he
might fill all things. "
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Verse 11 key verse:
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Why? For the perfecting
of the saints for the work
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of the ministry for the
edifying of the body of Christ.
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See, there has been some
confusion through the years
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about the
statement in verse 9 saying
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"for the work of the ministry.
" This is not saying that these
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gifts were given in order
to do the work of the ministry.
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A clear understanding can be
taken from a literal translation
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of this verse. The Amplified
Bible is a literal translation
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with amplification.
Ephesians 4:12 says:
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"His intention was the
perfecting and the full
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equipping of the saints, His
consecrated people, that they
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should do, they should do the
work ministering toward building
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up Christ's body -
which is the church.
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Another area of confusion
is the commonly-taught error
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that the five-fold
ministry is no longer valid.
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This is far from the truth!
Some of those that teach this
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error proclaim the ministry
of the apostle and prophet
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has come to an end. However,
this group readily embraces
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the ministry of the
pastor, evangelist, and teacher.
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How can that be? There
is no scriptural evidence
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of any of these five
gifts ceasing at any time.
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This raises yet another
question. What are we going
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to do with the first word
in verse 13? The word is till,
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or in our language, until.
These gifts were given till
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we all come into the unity of
the faith and of the knowledge
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of the Son of God unto a perfect
or mature man unto the measure
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of the stature of the fullness
of Christ. It doesn't take
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a scholar to know
that we are not there yet.
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We are on our way, but if
we continue to reject the doma
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gifts of Jesus, we will never
come to the fullness of Christ.
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These gifts are commonly
referred to as the five-fold
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ministry - not the
three-fold ministry.
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It will take all of the
doma gifts given by Jesus
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to prepare the
remnant company of believers.
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The gift of the
apostle: let's look at it.
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When Jesus gave these gifts
to men, He was actually taking
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what He was in His earthly
ministry and breaking it down
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into five parts to be
used to equip the church.
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The first and foundational
ministry of Jesus was that
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of an apostle. Jesus
said: "I will build my church. "
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Hebrews 3:1 confirms the
apostolic ministry of Christ.
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"Wherefore, holy brethren,
partakers of the heavenly
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calling, consider the
Apostle and High Priest
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of our profession, Jesus
Christ or Christ Jesus. "
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It must be clearly understood
that a gift is not earned
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or learned. For this reason,
the five-fold ministry gifts
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cannot be earned, cannot
be learned. It is of great
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importance to recognize that no
one can appoint another person
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into these offices. The
Holy Spirit may use the church
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eldership to confirm the call of
God on an individual, but they
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cannot decree by
laying on of hands or through
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pre-qualification methods
determine whether a person has
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one of these five-fold offices.
Another important aspect of
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a gift is that it is not
inherited from one generation
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to the next. Unlike the
Old Testament where God chose
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a family line passing on
the covenant from one generation
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to the next. This does not
occur in the New Testament.
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In the New Testament, we
only inherit from Christ.
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For this reason there
are no recorded inheritances
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of anointing from any of
the apostles to their children.
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This contrasts with the
Old Testament where it is
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meticulously recorded. The
genealogies are the spiritual
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inheritance finished
with Christ as recorded in the
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Gospel of Matthew. It is clear
that there is no Biblical basis
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for church elders
anointing their children
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or close relatives to
inherit their ministry.
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And we have seen
this through the years.
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Molly and I have seen this
in the faith ministry and the
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prosperity ministry where the
fathers would turn the ministry
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over to the son and call
him this and call him that.
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Not so. Church history clearly
shows that whenever this occurs,
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the once very successful
ministry invariably loses its
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anointing and becomes a
dead denomination or church
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after a few generations.
Now, let's look at what an
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apostle is. According to God's
Word and the Greek explanation,
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apostle, the Greek
means or is apostolos,
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is literally one sent forth.
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Apo means from and
Stello means to send.
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The word is used of the
Lord Jesus to describe His
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relation to God. He
was sent from God by God.
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The 12 disciples chosen by
the Lord for special training
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were called apostles. Luke 6:13:
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"And when it was day He
called unto Him His disciples
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and of them He chose 12
whom also he named apostles. "
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Contrary to popular belief and
erroneous teachings, there were
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more apostles in the Bible
than just the original twelve.
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Stay with me now, OK?
The word apostle has a much
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wider reference.
According to scripture,
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according to scripture, there
are more than 20 apostles listed
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in the New Testament. Acts
14 refers to Barnabas as well as
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Paul as being apostles.
Romans 16:7 calls Adronicus and
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Junias apostles. In 2
Corinthians 8:23 in the
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revised version in the
margin two unnamed brethren are
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called apostles of the church.
Philippians 2:25 the margin
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Epaphroditus is
referred to as your apostle.
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It is used in I
Thessalonians 2:6 about
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Paul and Silas and Timothy
to define their relationship
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with Christ. An apostle is
someone who is commissioned
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of Jesus Christ which means they
have an official permission.
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Official permission from
Christ to carry out a task.
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This is someone who is called
and commissioned by Him to the
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office of an apostle.
Supernatural giftings and
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miraculous signs may be present,
but we should never judge a man
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or a woman as an apostle
just because giftings and
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accomplishments are
apparent. Apostles are basically
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God's messengers. They
are chosen out of the called.
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They are chosen,
they are called and sent
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by the very hand of God. A
true apostle will never decide
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to do something because it
seemed like a good thing to do.
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They are sent forth to speak
or act on behalf of our Lord and
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Savior Jesus Christ, having
the authority and the permission
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of the one who sent them.
All for carrying out the mission
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God has sent them to fulfill.
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Now, I want to share with
you some signs of an apostle.
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A true apostle must profess
great leadership ability.
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They must be able to deal
with extremely critical problems
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in the state of affairs in
which they may find themselves.
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They must have a heart to lead,
and they must know the way to
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lead the people of God.
They are humble of heart.
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They are servants
to the Lord's people
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to be used and sent by God
in any manner that God chooses.
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They are not boastful nor
will they be full of themselves
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or their own wills. Their will
is God's will plain and simple.
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You can see the continuity
in Paul's letters where he is
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always reminding
those to whom he is writing
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"I am just a servant.
" Romans 1:1 says, "Paul,
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a servant of Jesus Christ. "
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Now let's look at some
evidences of an apostle.
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The church does not choose or
appoint someone for apostleship.
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We have already shared some of
this. We do not choose ourselves
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as apostles. Jesus chooses
then gives this gift by His own
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hand to the church. An apostle
has a great responsibility
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to the church as seen by
the commitment required of him.
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The evidence of an apostle
of the Lord begins with his
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understanding as to how
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he must care
for Christ's church.
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When an apostle clearly
considers his obligation
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associated with this gift
given by our Lord and Savior
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Jesus Christ, the verification
will be that he will be known
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for his commitment to the
church. He will live, breathe,
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and die tending to the Lord's
church and the Lord's people.
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says: "Even so, ye, forasmuch
as you are zealous for spiritual
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gifts, seek that you may excel
to the edifying of the church. "
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Now, let's look at how
to recognize an apostle.
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How can we recognize an apostle
today? Well, it's not by their
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clothes or not by their
hairstyle. I believe the Lord
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still gives the gift of
the apostle to His church.
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I believe that He is and has
been preparing the hearts of His
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people to take on the calling
and the office of an apostle.
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And I believe mostly that the
church needs the apostle-type of
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leadership
today as never before.
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Because of the need
for direction, the need for
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correction, and the
need for instruction.
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I think the gift of an
apostle is not only necessary
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but it is essential in the
church of today to bring forth
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the remnant church. We need
strong, godly people who are
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unafraid to confront error
and issues in the church today.
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There are so many. We
need people that will stand
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and confront them. We
need those who will teach the
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difference between
the clean and the unclean;
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the holy and the profane; and
will stand in righteous judgment
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when dealing with any and
all controversies in the church.
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We need those who are not
ashamed of the gospel of Christ.
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We need those who are willing
to reach the world with the
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undiluted three angels'
messages. We need those that
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are willing to
counteract the counterfeit.
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We need apostles that will
not play man's political games
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but seek only to
be a God pleaser.
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So do you think you
might want to be an apostle?
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First, you need to realize that
you can't just decide to become
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any one of these five-fold
doma gifts. The charisma gifts
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are for everybody but the
doma gifts are only appointed
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by Jesus and given by Jesus.
This is like some of the judges
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in our judiciary system. That
person was not born a judge.
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They were appointed a judge
by someone who was of a higher
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authority and had the
power and the right to do so.
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The charisma gifts are
available to all who will open
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themselves up to them and
submit themselves to the leading
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of the Holy Spirit. This is
not the case, it's not the case,
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it's not the case
with the doma gifts.
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I know you are probably thinking
that, well, anyone could be a
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pastor, evangelist, or
a teacher. But with the
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coming from and the sending to
someone may be holding an office
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but not gifted and
graced for the place by Jesus.
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Did you hear that? I hope you
are hearing my heart in this.
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We need the true five-fold doma
gift ministries in the church
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today not just someone
that's decided to do it.
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Now, here's one final word
for any who desire this gift.
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It's an observation
by the apostle Paul.
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"For I think that God has sent
forth us the apostles last [huh]
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as though appointed to
death [oh, oh] because we are
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made a spectacle to the
world, to angels, and to men.
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We are fools for Christ's sake,
but you are wise in Christ;
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we are weak, but you are
strong, you are given honor,
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but we are despised. Even in
this present hour we hunger and
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thirst, we are naked and are
beaten, and we have no certain
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dwelling place... we are weary.
>From working with our own hands
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when we are reviled we bless,
when persecuted we endure,
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when defamed we speak kindly.
We have been made as the filth
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of the world and are the
off scouring of all things
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unto this day. " So,
you think you might want
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to be an apostle? I think
you might want to re-think that.
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Well, next, very quickly, we
are going to look at the gift
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of the prophet. The
very workings of the office
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of the prophet make it extremely
difficult for an individual
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to build a substantial ministry
without a genuine gifting
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in prophecy at the very least.
The Word of God warns, however,
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that false prophets will also be
operating, so prophesying alone
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cannot guarantee that one
is genuine. It is also possible
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those who operate in the
gift of prophecy to claim
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to be prophets either because
they do not understand the true
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nature of the New Testament
prophet or they are being
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motivated by a selfish agenda.
The scriptures - both Old and
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New Testament -
clearly demonstrate that God
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by His Spirit makes a call on
individuals and appoints them.
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In the New Testament, Jesus,
JESUS, gives the five-fold
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ministry gifts and then
the Holy Spirit sends them out
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to fulfill their ministry
and to confirm their anointing.
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This principle is true for the
five-fold offices even though
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the vast majority of church
leadership have achieved their
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offices through other means.
As the prophetic ministry is
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restored to the true status
in the local church as an office
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in its own right, there will
obviously be many who will make
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claims to being
called to that office.
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Let's look at our foundational
scripture once again.
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Ephesians 4:11 says: "And
He gave some apostles and some
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prophets. " This was
Jesus that did this. "And some
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evangelists, and some
pastors, and teachers. "
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Once again, when Jesus
gave these gifts to men,
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He gave what He was while
He was here on this earth.
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This doma gift of a
prophet which was given by Jesus
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is not interconnected to
God's Old Testament prophets.
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says: "And the multitude
said, this is Jesus the prophet
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of Nazareth of Galilee. "
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says: "And He said unto
them, What things? And they said
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unto him, Concerning Jesus
of Nazareth, which was a prophet
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mighty in deed and word
before God and all the people. "
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The Greek word for
prophets - prophetes -
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means a fore teller.
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One who tells or can tell
of events before they happen.
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It also means a prophet by
analogy, an inspired speaker,
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one who is inspired by the Holy
Spirit to speak the mind of God
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and reveal and make
clear the very heart of God.
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Now, before we
really get into the study
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of the gift of the prophet,
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we need to look at three
distinct areas of the prophetic.
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First, there is the gift
of the prophet - which is
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the office or the
calling of a prophet.
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It, like the apostle, is a
gift accompanied by a special
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anointing for it. Without that
special anointing it is nothing.
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The anointing comes from the
Lord with His hand of blessing
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giving them spiritual
favor. This is often referred to
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as the office of a prophet.
However, it is more of a
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character, grace
gift, than an office.
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Jesus will grace
you for the place.
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Secondly, there is a prophetic
flow brought on by a spiritual
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awareness within the body of
Christ or a body of believers
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who are gathered together
and not limited to a certain
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individual. This I will
call the spirit of prophecy.
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I think you understand
this. This area of the prophetic
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will most likely seem
unusual to anyone who hasn't
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been around the
arena of the prophetic.
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Now, thirdly there
is the gift of prophecy.
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It is mentioned by Paul in
I Corinthians. We looked at
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this charisma gift at
length earlier in this series.
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Now, let's
rehearse this one more time.
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There is the:
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Now, let's look at
the office of the prophet.
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As we discussed in the gift of
the apostles, the same is true
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with the prophet. The
appointment of the prophet
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must be place upon the chosen
prophet by someone greater than
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himself or herself. This will
have to be, guess who, Jesus
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Christ, because He was the
one who gave the gifts unto men.
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You know, we as Seventh-day
Adventists should be open and
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receptive to the ministry
of the prophet and prophetess.
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Why should we live without
prophetic guidance, direction,
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and even correction.
These are all things which the
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Old Testament believers
had under the leadership of the
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prophets, and we today should
not be without these blessings
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and benefits. This is why
some of the 12 apostles spoke so
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strongly of the place
and work of a prophet.
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What is true of the male
prophet is no less true of the
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female prophet. Her
role was not that of head
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but of messenger. The
Bible sees the prophetess in a
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supportive and complementary
role which does not negate
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male headship. Paul
clarifies this point in
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I Corinthians 11
verse 2 through 16
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where he defends the right
of women to pray and prophesy
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in church because the
gifts of the Spirit are given
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to the church without
regard to gender differences.
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However, we note that Paul
opposes the behavior of those
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women who disregard their
subordinate position by praying
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and giving prophetic
exhortation to the congregation
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with their heads
uncovered like the men.
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Paul just naturally accepted
the fact that there would be
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prophets in the church, and
all those he taught seemed to
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accept the same. Paul's
main concern was instructional.
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Instructional! We also
see this in the writings of
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Ellen G. White. Powerful!
Here is one such instruction
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from the Review and the Herald:
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Review and Herald,
July 19, 1906, paragraph 12.
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Remember at the first part of
today's program we saw that the
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doma gift lends greater strength
to the concrete character
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of the gift than to
it's beneficent nature?
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The concrete character required
of the prophet - they are
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sent or set apart totally
to the Lord for the ministry
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of building God's kingdom
and preparing the church for the
00:24:51.34\00:24:54.16
return of the Savior. They
are love motivated. They have an
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intercessory heart. They are
not motivated by fame through
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the ministry. They are
not motivated by fortune
00:25:02.40\00:25:05.34
through the ministry. They
are not motivated by the power
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of influence that can be
achieved through the ministry.
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This is the test
of a true prophet.
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We today need the same
instruction and guidance,
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but before we can expect the
prophetic to flow with strength
00:25:18.81\00:25:22.12
and with edifying results
in our churches and gatherings,
00:25:22.22\00:25:25.82
we must understand and
accept the doma gifts of Jesus
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as being vital in this present
age. Without the gift of the
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prophetic insight and wisdom,
we will not have an important
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part of the spiritual gifts
that God has so graciously given
00:25:39.08\00:25:42.92
to the church. Instead, we'll
have confusion and disunity
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in the body of Christ.
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I'm amazed at what
happens so much of the time
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in today's Christian world.
00:25:56.22\00:25:58.52
People that like to call
themselves certain things
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and proclaim to be in an office
that they are obviously not in.
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I got a card the
other day from a minister
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different faith,
different denomination.
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I won't call his name, but
let me give you just a little
00:26:16.42\00:26:20.74
summary of what he said.
Elder John Smith, apostle,
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prophet,
evangelist, pastor, and teacher.
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I've heard it said before
that you can take a cow into the
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courtroom and the judge
can rule that it's a horse,
00:26:35.08\00:26:37.13
but when you get it
outside it's still a cow.
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You see, we are not something
because of what we say we are.
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We are something
because what Jesus has given us
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in the grace gift, to
be grace for the place
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and then those around
us should recognize it.
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If you are any of
these five-fold ministries,
00:26:55.46\00:26:57.98
you should never have to
tell somebody what you are.
00:26:58.11\00:27:00.97
They should be
telling you what you are.
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And then you need to be moving
in it. Moving in that gift
00:27:06.54\00:27:11.18
by the power of the Holy Spirit.
The apostle should be one that
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would build and establish.
The prophet should be one
00:27:14.91\00:27:17.87
that would speak for
correction, for instruction.
00:27:17.97\00:27:20.50
The evangelist should be
one that would catch the fish,
00:27:20.60\00:27:24.33
and the pastor would be
one that would clean the fish.
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The evangelist would be one
that would go out and preach
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the Word of God, the pastor
would be one that would embrace
00:27:31.19\00:27:34.56
the sheep and pull them to his
breast, and the teacher would be
00:27:34.67\00:27:38.15
one that would instruct
the saints of God how to live
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godly in Christ Jesus.
See, what we need to do
00:27:41.76\00:27:45.03
is we just need to relax and
let God begin to speak to us.
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I believe that if we do,
we might soon see some real
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doma gift ministries to come on
the scenes in these last days.
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And now that we know what they
are, and we are learning how
00:27:56.62\00:28:00.50
they operate, then maybe by the
grace of God we'll be more open
00:28:00.60\00:28:04.58
and receptive to allowing
them to work in our hearts,
00:28:04.68\00:28:08.47
in our lives,
and in our churches.
00:28:08.57\00:28:10.22
On our next Heaven's Point
of View program, we will be
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studying the office of the
evangelist, pastor, and teacher.
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Doma gifts, given by Jesus, for
the perfection of the church.
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So check your 3ABN
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