Welcome to Healthy Living,
I'm your host Marot Marshall.
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Kidney failure used to be a
death sentence until the advent
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of dialysis and
kidney transplants,
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but is there another option?
Can failing kidneys become
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healthy again? Even at
the age of 89? Stay tuned.
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The gentleman who in
now a healthy 92 year old
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didn't travel didn't travel
into state to be with us today,
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but here to tell us about
his remarkable recovery is
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his daughter, Chi-Won
and his General Practioner
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Dr. Coralia Jigau, who
practices Lifestyle Medicine.
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Welcome to both of you,
it's lovely to have you here
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Dr. Coralia and
Chi-Won. Thank you.
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Tell us just in a nutshell
what is Lifestyle Medicine.
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Lifestyle Medicine is
an evidence based medicine
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which we started to realize
recently how important it is
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for our health. There's a lot of
research showing your lifestyle
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counts the most in your
health or in your disease.
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It accounts more than
what a doctor can prescribe
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in medicines. Yes. That's,
that's, that's. Thank you for
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that. Now Chi-Won, you had some
health concerns, tell us about
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those. For myself? Yes, just
for yourself...Well we're really
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talking about your dad.
Maybe we'll start with your dad
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I think. Because he was
the one who had that amazing
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turnaround. Yes. So my father
had had a history of diabetes
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and hypertension, (high blood
Pressure) and he's had it for
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quite some time. So he was on
normal medication, if you like.
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The usual medication but
there came a point in time when
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he was 89 that the tests
showed that his kidneys were
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functioning at 14, so his EGFR
was 14. Now I don't know what
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that is. Right. So
tell us about EGFR at 14.
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Her father was end
stage kidney failure.
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Kidney failure has four stages.
After the age of 65 in USA
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one in three adult they
have chronic kidney failure.
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Acute kidney failure
is a different matter.
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So we study...It was at the
point where you have to have
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dialysis to survive. Yes.
That's when he came to me.
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Yes. So what was interesting
was that exactly 12 months
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before that his kidneys
were functioning at 31 and at 31
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at that age is considered
not a bad number at all.
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But six months after that when
he had his regular blood tests
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again, it had dropped to 20,
and then six months after that
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it had dropped to 14. So
within a space of 12 months,
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it had gone from 31 to 14
and he was considering traveling
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in a couple of months overseas.
His specialist suggest that he
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go and see a renal...a
kidney specialist before that
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and ordering my father
up... and my father himself is
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a medical doctor and that he
knew exactly what those results
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meant. And what did they mean?
What do results like that mean?
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It means that the kidneys are
very important for the organ,
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they have to do a lot
of detoxification in the?,
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It has to do with the acidity
in the body. I has to do with
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diabetes in the body. Kidneys
have an important organ diabetes
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two and as your father
had diabetes for 30 years,
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it was a long impact and
multiple problems which his
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kidneys have. The problem is he
did not expect to get a little
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bit better and he did not
believe in it and actually
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Chi-Won was dragging him into
my clinic. I believe it took you
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three years to get him
to come and see Dr. Coralia,
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was the right? That's correct...
Three years he resisted...Yeah.
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Because that's how long it
took, You know I had been well
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through lifestyle change
myself and through a diet and so
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during that period of three
years I was singing the praises
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of this kind of
living and medicine...
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But because daddy's a doctor
himself, he said I've never
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heard of things like that,
we we're not taught that sort of
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thing at medical
school so that cannot be true.
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He also said that it's
well know in the medical world
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that with kidneys
it's a one way direction.
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There is no such thing as
reversal of kidneys and it
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cannot get better and we
couldn't get him an appointment
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for him to see a renal
specialist straight away
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so I said come and see
Dr. Jigau my doctor and
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I think he didn't want to
go on dialysis, he knew that.
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He knew what that meant
every two or three times a week
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he had to spend about 4 or 5
hours attached to this machine
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that's cleaning out your blood.
He said that's no way to live.
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So for the first time he
agreed to go and meet Coralia
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but with a great deal of
skepticism and he didn't think
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that anything could be done...
I just remember his face...
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You do? I know how it was,
he was so...and I insist on him,
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could you please try to do
this change in your lifestyle
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just for 10 days? Please
walk a beat, go for 10 days on a
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plant based diet. I said
look, we have your results now
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and in another 10 days
we'll have your blood test
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and we'll see what
is going on from there.
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I remember what he said right
after that, he had me to that...
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You know the reason why he
agreed to do it, was to prove
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Coralia wrong. Oh! [Laughter]
Right he said, I don't think
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she knows what she's talking
about because the whole world
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knows that it cannot
be done and in 10 days...
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So he agreed to do this,
but he was actually extremely
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disciplined, so the
minute we walked out of there,
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went and did the blood
test and in 10 days' time,
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his EGFR jumped up from 14
to 19. I couldn't believe myself
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because I've never
had a patient like that,
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especially at this age. I
was impressed, I said Wow!
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this is working. So from 14
to 19 in 10 days is something
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that even shocked you. Cause
that might not have a lot of
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meaning to people like me
because I don't know about it.
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Yes, let's have another
month. But during that time,
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it was immediately after
we got that new result, right?
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Of EGFR being 18- 19 which is
such good news, his appointment
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with the renal specialist
had come up and this specialist
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wanted a blood test
done too and it showed 18.
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So my father said oh,
so it wasn't an error then.
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Right. So he didn't
even believe the lab results.
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He felt that he was feeling
much better because he was
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feeling so tired and lethargic
and all of this. So in ten days
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he was feeling better
and he asked the specialist,
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he said look, it's
improved. You can see it was 14,
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ten days ago and it's 18
now and his specialist said,
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maybe you were very dehydrated
when you had your first
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blood test done and
that probably explains it.
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My father said I'm starting
a new diet now, I'm going to
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have my diet changed to
whole food plant based vegan
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and the specialist said,
well, that might not hurt
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but you know...Pretty
much he wasn't very convinced.
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So he did another blood test
two months after the first one
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and it had gone up.
His GFR was twenty four.
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Twenty four, so from 14...19...
Twenty four. To Twenty four
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and that, tell us...Meanwhile,
this means that you can live
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normally without
needing to have dialysis. Yes.
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Which at this age,
it is extraordinary.
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But in the meantime he was
taking a blood pressure tablet
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and he said Coralia, you
didn't tell me my blood pressure
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would get better
when I'm going on this.
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Because he used to have
Avapro 300 mg which is a
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blood pressure tablet and
we cut it down to 155, 150 mg.
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and we cut it to half. So we
took half for a while and now
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we are on 75 only. Yes, and the
reason why, what surprised him
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was, you know our focus was
so much on trying to get him...
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his kidneys in order...But of
course this whole change in his
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lifestyle and his diet resulted
in having a huge impact on
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his diabetes and
his hypertension.
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So what happened was, my father
was on these huge doses of
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high blood pressure tablets...
He was starting to feel very
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giddy and dizzy and he said,
oh my gosh, what's going on?
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So when I rang Coralia,
Coralia said, he has to cut down
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on his blood pressure tablets...
the level and my father had
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refused you see because he was
so nervous...He said do you know
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what my blood pressure is like?
If I cut it down, I may not
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make it. So he then cut that
down and the following effect...
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and his diabetes
was great wasn't it?
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Yeah and after that he
have to give up his insulin,
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we cut down gradually
his insulin, so we have taken
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his insulin. All of that,
so ultimately he took 31, he's
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EGFR went up to 31...So
that's what it is now? Yes.
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At the age of 92. At the age
of 92...That seems like this is
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three years later? Yeah.
Now three years later? Yes.
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That's correct. And he's
really well. He is so well...
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He's walking now. And he
goes around...Yes. So he's...
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It wasn't just his diet,
now he's doing all the walking
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and his exercises and
his... so he's focusing on both
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and he's being very very
very good. So it's the nuts...
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You sound like a mother.
The whole grain...Very good.
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I'm so proud of him because
it's been such a huge, I think
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emotionally, mentally and
professionally it's a shock
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that he dedicated his
whole life as a doctor and he
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went into medicine in order
to be a very good doctor...
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Yes, I'm sure he
would...And he said Cho-Wan,
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we were not given one hour
of education on lifestyle on
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diet and the connection between
that and health and diseases.
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Therefore he kept saying.
I am so upset about this,
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I am so angry about this...
Yes, I could believe that.
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He said I feel so
embarrassed about this.
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You can mention about your
mom, what happened to your mom?
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Oh yes. Yes. My mother is five
years younger than my father
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and about that time wasn't
it that mommy...I thought that
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she had a stroke
because she was throwing up and
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I looked at her face and
one part of her mouth seemed
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like it was drooping. She went
to see her GP and it was not
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Coralia at that time, and
they said no, no she seems fine.
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Made her do a few tests
and said no, no she hasn't had
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a stroke or anything like
that. But they were intending to
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fly over seas in the next
seven days and I said to mommy,
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you must come and
have a second opinion.
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So she came to see Coralia
with daddy and I and Coralia
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took her blood pressure,
asked a few questions and said,
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you must go in and do an MRI
straight away because I think
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you have had a
stroke, but a very mini one.
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We took her to do the test
and sure enough, she had had
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a mini stroke. So there
was no international travel.
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From that MRI she went
the hospital into Emergency
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and was admitted straight-away
and the proceeded to spend
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the next three months in
a rehab hospital recovering
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from it and she's
totally fine now. So she too has
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changed her diet...No
more white carbs for anybody
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are both eating grains...Lots of
whole grains. Legumes and nuts
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and fruits and vegetables.
This is from a family where our
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main diet used to be meat...
What about your niece with IBS?
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Oh yes. Nina, my sister's
daughter. She was about ten
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and she had been in and
out of the Children's Hospital,
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in and out all the
time complaining of pains,
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missing school and the
last time this happened,
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they said, we
think we found the cause.
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We think it might be an
inflammation of her appendix.
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But they did more tests and
they said, well the inflammation
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and the size growth is not
big enough for us to justify
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removing the appendix
so we don't quite know...
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We suggest you take her home
and that's when I said to my
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sister, what have you got to
lose? Take her to see Coralia.
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So she did, and in one
appointment, Coralia asked her,
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what are you eating, what
are your favorite foods and
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what do you do? I tell her,
you have Mesenteric Adenitis
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after I consulted her...
Mesenteric Adenitis is an
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inflamed gland in the abdomen
and she had an ultrasound
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confirmed it and I told her
have you been in the hospital
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many times? Just get off your
dairy products completely. Yes.
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You know, that is what
happened to lifestyle medicine,
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ever since I have
never seen her as a patient.
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(Laughter) That certainly
wasn't in your interest. Ah yes.
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So it seems like it is your
main objective is to put your-
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self out of business. But
that hasn't happened because my
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whole family is singing
Coralia's praises obviously
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and telling everyone...My
father who is a doctor
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is telling his specialist right
about this and...What about you?
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Yes, yes, with me I
first went to see Coralia...
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So you were the first person
who went to see Dr. Coralia...
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Yes. What were your concerns?
I was just, I was living a
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very very sort of hectic life,
um, and working very long hours
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and working very high
pressure work. But I was fine,
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I was doing well, so I thought
you know, yes Type A type of
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person and I will fine.
And I thought that my diet very
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healthy because I was trimming
away all the fat from my meat,
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but every single meal consisted
of meat, white carbs and maybe
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some vegetables. But I really
thought I was doing very well
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because I was eating a fruit
a day, a piece of fruit a day
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and I had some greens...But I
thought in order to have protein
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and everything, that
was what I needed to do.
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And I suddenly started to feel
so unreal, I knew in myself,
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I had no energy, I could
hardly get out of bed but I will
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drag myself out of bed and
be very worried that I'd be
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falling down...But no energy,
very difficult to focus...
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I went to see some doctors,
they did a lot of blood tests
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and they said, we really don't
know what's wrong with you,
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We don't think there is anything
wrong...They didn't say that
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quite like that but it
seemed as though we can't find
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anything wrong with you.
But someone from church said
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go and see Dr. Jigau, so I
went to see her, and she said,
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I want you to do a blood
test. And I say, you know what?
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I've already given so much
blood, I can tell you exactly
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what my blood test
results are and she said,
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what did they look for? I said
what do you want to look for?
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She said, I want to see what
you vitamin and mineral levels
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are. I thought she was joking
because I was quite convinced
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I had a major issue and that I
was about to die and I thought,
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she's looking for
my vitamin levels.
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Did you really think
you were going to die?
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I knew so because you
see, I had a I thought amazing
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health all my life.
So you felt that bad?
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Yeah, I felt that bad and really
fearful because nobody could
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pinpoint anything. So I
was pumping on adrenalin
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and that was how I was
continuing to just continue.
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The blood tests came out,
and I went to see her and she
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looked at the blood
test results and she had this
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huge smile on her face and
she said Cho-wan, you are the
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walking dead. And I
thought, why are you smiling?
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(Laughter) That's a
good question. She said but I
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have very good news for
you, I know exactly why you are
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feeling the way you are and
this is very easily reversed.
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I said, what is the problem?
She said your vitamin D level
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is 11, and I looked at
her very blankly and I said,
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what, I don't know
what that means and I said,
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well what else is wrong
and she said, that will do it.
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Vitamin D, vitamin B12,
it was...this was one of the
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problems...This was the
worst... For anyone else viewing
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who doesn't know how
bad 11 is for vitamin D,
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tell us how bad that is.
Vitamin D, it's very bad,
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it's supposed to be above
75 with good figures up to 250.
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Alright. So vitamin D is
absolutely essential for our
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body. People know about it
only regarding with the bone and
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with calcium absorption
from our bowels but vitamin B
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is essential for your cardio-
vascular system, it's essential
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for your mental health because
it's essential for protecting
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body for a lot more than
just simple bone and calcium
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And could she have died if the
levels weren't regulated? No.
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But she would be lingering
around. Lingering around...
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We correct vitamin D, vitamin
B12 like that, we check your
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Omega 3 index, which
also was extremely low
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so we corrected everything
that we could and um...
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So within two months...and your
Homocysteine was very high...
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Homocysteine was very high...
but not as high as your father
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which was 49. My father's
Homocysteine level was 49.9
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when he first went to see her...
The normal level is up to 10.
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Within the ten days, two months
later it had gone down to 34.
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Mine I thought was very high
too but nothing like daddy's.
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But within...She put me on a
very high dosage of vitamin D
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and within, I think two
months it had gone from 11 to 75
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and my father's vitamin
D level was also shocking.
00:21:50.51\00:21:53.78
His was 26, so a little bit
better than the walking dead
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here, but not much right?
And his went up in 10 days
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from 26 to 64, but
you know you were right.
00:22:02.72\00:22:06.29
You were right in saying
that because had she not told me
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that, I would not have believed
the condition of my body
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because I thought I was eating
so healthily, I thought I was
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exercising you know, I'm
being very active and so...
00:22:17.30\00:22:21.60
It was only hearing how shocking
my health was that I changed.
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Your body told you, you
felt... and how do you feel now
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comparing with how you
have been before. Oh. Much...
00:22:30.91\00:22:34.05
Just take a look at
her, she... That's wonderful.
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Yes but it's taken me four
years to change and it took me
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four years because at the
beginning I just started eating
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a lot of fruits and vegetables
because that was what I could
00:22:47.90\00:22:52.00
focus on and that
is what I understood.
00:22:52.03\00:22:54.74
Then I had to add on
things like nuts and legumes
00:22:54.77\00:22:59.41
and seeds and things like
this. I found that it took me
00:22:59.44\00:23:06.18
four years to really
comprehensively understand
00:23:06.21\00:23:09.72
what lifestyle
living and change really is.
00:23:09.75\00:23:13.62
So I incorporated all of
that and giving up, I think,
00:23:13.66\00:23:19.03
changing my taste buds
you know...Living on meat and
00:23:19.06\00:23:23.83
living on strong tastes is you
like, going to more bland food
00:23:23.87\00:23:30.94
more natural food and
incorporating things at a
00:23:30.97\00:23:36.44
different level. All of
that and also learning about the
00:23:36.48\00:23:40.48
importance of vitamin
B12, so I became such a Zealot
00:23:40.52\00:23:44.62
that my vitamin B12
level dropped because I wasn't
00:23:44.65\00:23:49.82
listening to my doctor. She
had said to me once you give up
00:23:49.86\00:23:55.03
animal protein, you must
be aware of vitamin B12 and
00:23:55.06\00:24:01.14
must take supplements. But
I very ignorantly thought well
00:24:01.17\00:24:05.17
now that my diet is so healthy,
surely I'm getting everything
00:24:05.21\00:24:07.84
I need from my diet. Even
though she kept warning me,
00:24:07.88\00:24:12.15
I disregarded it you see, until
one day I wasn't well at all.
00:24:12.18\00:24:17.59
And this was last year, so I
went to see her and she said,
00:24:17.62\00:24:18.95
what did I tell you about this,
your vitamin B12 level is so low
00:24:18.99\00:24:28.20
and this means all of your
other organs are going to be
00:24:28.23\00:24:30.87
affected. Because I
thought I was have heart issues
00:24:30.90\00:24:36.24
and I didn't understand
why but when I was so healthy
00:24:36.27\00:24:39.41
and so well, right? Had been
so well for such a long time
00:24:39.44\00:24:43.14
so then I went on...she
said you have to have vitamin B
00:24:43.18\00:24:49.42
injections straight away
now, did that for six weeks,
00:24:49.45\00:24:54.42
one vial, on injection
per week, brought that up...
00:24:54.46\00:24:58.39
So you know it's actually quite
not that simple, it's not just
00:24:58.43\00:25:02.96
eat vegetables and fruit...
No, you are right, it's one of
00:25:03.00\00:25:07.17
the things that isn't
well supplied in a totally
00:25:07.20\00:25:10.61
plant based diet
and it's very important.
00:25:10.64\00:25:12.51
I'm glad that you
finally got to understand that.
00:25:12.54\00:25:17.68
Yes, it's very very
important. That's right, yes.
00:25:17.71\00:25:24.19
So my father is well, he's
very well but he's overseas so
00:25:24.22\00:25:29.62
he couldn't be here today.
Oh, that's a shame, I would of
00:25:29.66\00:25:32.66
loved him to be here. Absolutely
right. Do you think he would
00:25:32.69\00:25:35.86
come? Your dad. Do you think
he would have come if he'd been
00:25:35.90\00:25:40.24
not overseas? I think he might,
he's just a little bit shy
00:25:40.27\00:25:44.71
but I think he is so
grateful for this journey...Yes.
00:25:44.74\00:25:51.08
Yes he is. That's lovely.
I just think it's remarkable,
00:25:51.11\00:25:56.25
I think it's remarkable that
this disease reversal can take
00:25:56.28\00:25:59.79
place at all, but in someone
who is 89. I just think that's
00:25:59.82\00:26:05.89
a beautiful thing and I'd
just like to say to people
00:26:05.93\00:26:08.46
our bodies are very forgiving,
just like the One who made them.
00:26:08.50\00:26:12.17
Even at 89 you get a good
result, so don't ever think
00:26:12.20\00:26:17.17
oh well, I've left it too
late or I'm too sick because
00:26:17.21\00:26:20.24
we just found out that it's
not too late and even really
00:26:20.28\00:26:25.71
even significant diseases
can be helped because of that
00:26:25.75\00:26:29.28
the cells are being replaced
all the time being remade.
00:26:29.32\00:26:34.22
I didn't believe myself, I
didn't believe, I have never
00:26:34.26\00:26:38.03
experienced this...Isn't that
amazing...W patient at this age.
00:26:38.06\00:26:41.30
I didn't because now you are
going by the book and you see
00:26:41.33\00:26:46.17
what you see and you didn't
expect at this age, that people
00:26:46.20\00:26:49.50
will improve, but...So are you
a little bit nervous about...
00:26:49.54\00:26:52.64
No, I was not nervous, I
was shocked with the results.
00:26:52.67\00:26:55.98
Okay, not nervous, shocked...
You remember with daddy,
00:26:56.01\00:26:59.58
my father has three stents in
his heart, right. So his heart
00:26:59.61\00:27:03.49
was never terribly good
and now his specialist says,
00:27:03.52\00:27:07.96
I would like my heart to be
like your heart when I'm 92.
00:27:07.99\00:27:11.79
And he says, I don't
really need to see you you know.
00:27:11.83\00:27:15.63
I don't need to see you. Yeah.
Isn't that the best thing you
00:27:15.66\00:27:19.83
could see? You're not
just putting yourself out of
00:27:19.87\00:27:21.90
business, you're putting
his heart specialist out of
00:27:21.94\00:27:25.44
business. I don't need to see
you any- more. Oh my goodness.
00:27:25.47\00:27:28.34
Now there is a lot of business
there if the patient will listen
00:27:28.38\00:27:32.71
and do a little change
but we are in this culture,
00:27:32.75\00:27:37.25
it is a sort of culture...we
want a quick fix, well a quick
00:27:37.29\00:27:41.06
take a pill and that's it, don't
do anything. Don't go out of
00:27:41.09\00:27:44.89
your way, do what you
want, eat whatever you want,
00:27:44.93\00:27:47.26
take a pill and be happy.
It's not working like that.
00:27:47.30\00:27:49.96
Well I think that time he
was very quick to be honest,
00:27:50.00\00:27:52.00
it might not be in the
next couple of hours but
00:27:52.03\00:27:54.47
a couple of weeks is amazing.
00:27:54.50\00:27:55.84
Well today we focused on
kidney failure but the healthy
00:27:55.87\00:28:00.14
lifestyle changes that reversed
it have been found to reverse
00:28:00.18\00:28:03.95
many other diseases. So
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