Amen and Amen, Thank you Todd, so very very much. 00:05:04.24\00:05:07.54 Tonight's message is entitled Soul Man! 00:05:07.57\00:05:11.73 I'm going to ask you to turn with me if you will, 00:05:11.76\00:05:14.15 to 2 Samuel and we will read from Chapter 14 after we pray. 00:05:14.18\00:05:23.14 2 Samuel 14:14, but before we do that, 00:05:23.17\00:05:32.26 shall we not go to the Lord in prayer. 00:05:32.29\00:05:33.71 Father God we thank you again for the truth of Your word. 00:05:33.74\00:05:38.41 We thank you for Jesus, our Savior and our friend. 00:05:38.44\00:05:42.84 We ask You Lord again to speak to us and allow us to 00:05:42.87\00:05:48.91 hear your voice, and your words, because we need to know 00:05:48.94\00:05:54.01 the truth in these last days so that we can prepare 00:05:54.04\00:05:58.63 for that grand and awful day when Christ returns for His own. 00:05:58.66\00:06:04.24 Please dear Lord, teach us again this night and help us to be 00:06:04.27\00:06:10.35 doers of the word and not just hears only. 00:06:10.38\00:06:14.24 We thank you, in Jesus Name! AMEN! 00:06:14.27\00:06:17.91 How many have ever had a lie told about you? 00:06:17.94\00:06:24.54 About 50 percent. 00:06:24.57\00:06:28.43 It's not very pleasant is it? 00:06:28.46\00:06:31.10 It it's awful to have people think something about you 00:06:31.13\00:06:35.78 that is not true. 00:06:35.81\00:06:37.47 It is very difficult to put a stop to a lie once it begins 00:06:37.50\00:06:44.47 to circulate. 00:06:44.51\00:06:45.98 Because all you can say is it is not true. 00:06:46.01\00:06:48.49 People tend to believe what they want to believe. 00:06:48.52\00:06:52.31 What is sad is that even in our world today 00:06:52.34\00:06:56.02 people tend to believe a lie sometimes more than the truth. 00:06:56.05\00:07:01.40 Well a lie, in fact several lies have been told about God. 00:07:01.43\00:07:09.32 God has spent the last 7000 years of earth's history, 00:07:09.35\00:07:15.30 of earth's recorded history, trying to tell the truth 00:07:15.33\00:07:21.09 about certain lies that were spread about Him 00:07:21.12\00:07:26.11 even in heaven itself. 00:07:26.14\00:07:28.36 These untrue statements have reached planet Earth 00:07:28.39\00:07:34.14 and they have, as it were, defaced the image of God. 00:07:34.17\00:07:41.63 and so we want, as best we can, from God's Word to put to rest 00:07:41.66\00:07:48.05 one of the most vicious of those untrue statements. 00:07:48.08\00:07:52.37 Our message is called Soul Man! 00:07:53.58\00:07:55.86 I'm in the book of 2 Samuel, what book did I say? 00:07:55.89\00:07:58.81 2 Samuel 14:14 00:07:58.84\00:08:04.67 Now, before we go little further I want to go to the 00:08:35.79\00:08:38.76 New Testament to the book of 1 Timothy 6:16 00:08:38.79\00:08:45.39 Now if you didn't know who the text was talking about 00:09:08.83\00:09:10.84 the idea that it ends with honor and everlasting power means 00:09:10.87\00:09:15.39 we must be talking about who? 00:09:15.42\00:09:16.62 We must be talking about God. 00:09:16.65\00:09:18.87 Two things we need to establish right now. 00:09:18.90\00:09:21.98 Every person who has lived or who is living, unless they are 00:09:22.01\00:09:31.04 alive at the second coming of Christ, will at one time or 00:09:31.07\00:09:35.45 another, sooner or later, see death. 00:09:35.48\00:09:38.72 Is that understood? 00:09:38.75\00:09:40.31 All of us are going to die. 00:09:40.34\00:09:44.32 Unless Jesus comes and we are translated, it is appointed 00:09:44.35\00:09:49.46 unto man, Solomon says, once to die, and then the judgment. 00:09:49.49\00:09:54.54 1 Timothy 6:16 makes a very important foundational statement 00:09:54.57\00:10:03.54 It says that there is one being in the universe that has 00:10:03.57\00:10:08.75 immortality, it is not you, it is not me, it is God. 00:10:08.78\00:10:15.48 Now we need to nail that nail down, only God has immortality. 00:10:15.51\00:10:23.87 Amen! and Amen! everybody else then is mortal. 00:10:23.90\00:10:32.91 God alone has a immortality! 00:10:32.94\00:10:38.48 It is a biblical statement, it is true, it is fact. 00:10:38.51\00:10:42.45 only God has immortality. Can you say Amen? 00:10:42.48\00:10:47.19 Now, what about us? 00:10:47.22\00:10:49.69 Let's go to the very first book of the Bible, book of Genesis. 00:10:49.72\00:10:52.27 What book did I say? 00:10:52.30\00:10:53.27 I'm in Genesis 3:4 00:10:53.28\00:10:58.74 If indeed God alone has immortality, 00:10:58.77\00:11:02.32 where did the confusion come from? 00:11:02.35\00:11:04.59 Here is one of lies. 00:11:04.62\00:11:06.16 You will not surely die. 00:11:16.14\00:11:18.27 Satan, speaking through the serpent, twisted the truth 00:11:20.68\00:11:27.42 and that twisting of the truth of God, has spawned more 00:11:27.45\00:11:33.71 confusion and consternation, and unbelief, and woe, 00:11:33.74\00:11:40.80 and outright rejection of the grace and gospel of Christ than 00:11:40.83\00:11:45.16 perhaps any other. 00:11:45.19\00:11:46.67 What has come from that original statement 00:11:46.70\00:11:51.19 has confused many and turned many off against Christianity. 00:11:51.22\00:11:57.72 You will not really die, is not a God-given utterance, 00:11:57.75\00:12:06.01 it is a Satanic utterance. 00:12:06.04\00:12:08.47 The idea that when you die, you don't really die, 00:12:08.50\00:12:15.47 does not come from God. 00:12:15.50\00:12:17.24 It comes from the lips of Satan himself, do you understand that? 00:12:17.27\00:12:22.79 It is very, very important. 00:12:22.82\00:12:24.45 It doesn't come from God, it comes from Satan. 00:12:24.48\00:12:27.98 Because at Adam and Eve did not drop dead that second, 00:12:28.01\00:12:34.11 they believed it. 00:12:34.14\00:12:36.12 There are many who believe it and teach it today. 00:12:36.15\00:12:40.13 But it does not, I say again, come from God. 00:12:40.16\00:12:45.05 The moment you accept that idea, the idea that when we die 00:12:45.08\00:12:52.20 part of us lives on, you have created for yourself one big, 00:12:52.23\00:13:01.30 fact theological conundrum. 00:13:01.33\00:13:04.26 In other words, you have dug a hole for yourself and in order 00:13:04.29\00:13:09.77 to solve that problem, you have to deface the image of God. 00:13:09.80\00:13:16.65 Now I want you to listen very carefully, because this 00:13:16.68\00:13:19.35 is very, very important. 00:13:19.38\00:13:20.46 To get out of the Ecclesiological or 00:13:20.49\00:13:25.11 Eschatological quicksand that, that theology creates, 00:13:25.14\00:13:28.93 you have to throw mud on the face and reputation of God. 00:13:28.96\00:13:34.92 If you believe and preach and teach that when you die 00:13:34.95\00:13:40.08 you don't really die, you turn a loving God into a monster. 00:13:40.11\00:13:48.13 I am going to show you how in just a little bit. 00:13:48.16\00:13:51.37 Now let's head in another direction and try to tie some 00:13:51.40\00:13:55.63 of these things together. 00:13:55.66\00:13:57.02 What is man? It's a basic question. 00:13:57.05\00:14:02.89 What are we? Let's answer that question from the 00:14:02.92\00:14:06.56 book of Genesis, what book did I say? 00:14:06.59\00:14:08.19 Genesis 2:7 and let's begin to answer that question. 00:14:08.22\00:14:14.75 What is man, what are we anyway? 00:14:14.78\00:14:17.39 The word of God answers that question I'm in Genesis 2:7 00:14:17.42\00:14:21.10 The Bible says, Genesis 2:7 "and the Lord God formed man 00:14:21.13\00:14:28.61 of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils 00:14:28.64\00:14:34.14 the breath of life and man became a living being. " 00:14:34.17\00:14:40.51 Alright, let's look at it for just a second. 00:14:40.54\00:14:43.85 God formed man from the dust of the ground, breathed into 00:14:43.88\00:14:50.39 his nostrils the breath of life, and man became, the Bible says 00:14:50.42\00:14:56.24 a living being. 00:14:56.27\00:14:58.73 Let's go to the book of Job, Job 4:17 I will give you 00:14:58.76\00:15:05.88 a second to find it. 00:15:05.91\00:15:07.22 Job 4:17 00:15:07.25\00:15:12.06 Alright, first God made us from the dust and breathed into us 00:15:26.76\00:15:36.08 air and we became souls. 00:15:36.11\00:15:40.47 Now the Bible does not play with words or mince words. 00:15:40.50\00:15:44.84 It uses the exact terms for what it is trying to say. 00:15:44.87\00:15:49.00 The Bible says, God took dust, breathed into it air and man 00:15:49.03\00:15:56.88 was given a soul. 00:15:56.91\00:15:58.22 Amen! you're not listening, that is not what the Bible says. 00:15:58.25\00:16:05.91 That's what man says. 00:16:05.94\00:16:07.28 The Bible says, God took dust, breathed into a air 00:16:07.31\00:16:13.72 and man "became" a soul. 00:16:13.75\00:16:18.39 Didn't say man was given a soul, it says, man became a soul. 00:16:18.42\00:16:25.16 There is ladies and gentlemen a great deal of difference 00:16:25.19\00:16:28.78 can you say Amen! 00:16:28.81\00:16:30.02 Different becoming as oppose to given. 00:16:30.05\00:16:34.54 The Bible equation is this, I want you to get it. 00:16:34.57\00:16:38.03 Body plus breath equals soul. 00:16:38.06\00:16:53.21 Body minus breath equals? 00:16:53.25\00:16:58.77 Equals dust! Equals dust! 00:17:04.29\00:17:07.99 It does not equal soul. 00:17:08.03\00:17:11.70 Because to get to a soul, according to Genesis you have 00:17:11.73\00:17:15.01 to have body and breath, if you don't have body 00:17:15.04\00:17:21.97 and breath, you don't have a um hum, makes sense? 00:17:22.00\00:17:28.78 Let's go to the book of Psalms, what book did I say? 00:17:30.62\00:17:32.22 Psalms 146:4 00:17:32.26\00:17:41.97 Psalms says and uses the word spirit, there are some 00:18:01.21\00:18:07.15 translators who use the word breath, but all the translators 00:18:07.18\00:18:13.66 agree that which leaves the body is not a conscious entity, 00:18:13.69\00:18:18.41 we will come to that a little later, but rather the breath 00:18:18.44\00:18:21.49 of God that was given at creation. 00:18:21.52\00:18:26.86 The spirit leaves, or the breath leaves, and returns to God 00:18:26.89\00:18:32.52 who gave it, the body goes to the ground. 00:18:32.55\00:18:34.93 Now what is important in that text is that the Bible says 00:18:34.97\00:18:38.34 in that very day the thoughts do what? Perish! 00:18:38.37\00:18:42.48 They stop, doesn't come back and congratulates you, 00:18:42.51\00:18:46.85 and pat you on the back when you do good in a baseball game. 00:18:46.88\00:18:49.35 Doesn't come back to your house and haunt you at night. 00:18:52.54\00:18:54.86 Doesn't wait for you in the cemetery when the Sun goes down. 00:18:54.89\00:18:59.89 Thoughts perish! AMEN! 00:19:02.37\00:19:06.71 Right from the word of God the Bible does not use the word 00:19:06.74\00:19:12.48 spirit as a conscious entity that lives on after death. 00:19:12.51\00:19:17.16 I'm going to prove that to you in just a little bit. 00:19:17.19\00:19:18.60 So the Bible says in that very day the thoughts do what? Perish 00:19:18.63\00:19:23.28 So everything you planned to do tomorrow, what happens? 00:19:23.31\00:19:25.85 Gone! All the bills you have to pay, Gone! 00:19:25.88\00:19:31.99 Car payment, Gone! 00:19:37.26\00:19:39.95 House note, Gone! 00:19:39.98\00:19:42.60 Credit card payment, Gone! 00:19:42.64\00:19:45.86 Your thoughts perish! 00:19:45.89\00:19:49.28 So that which goes to God is not a thinking entity, 00:19:53.08\00:19:56.12 it has no personality. 00:19:56.16\00:19:58.38 Further proof let's go to the book of Ecclesiastics. 00:19:58.42\00:20:01.11 What book did I say? 00:20:01.14\00:20:02.15 I'm in the book of Ecclesiastics 9:5 00:20:02.19\00:20:07.58 So when you die how much of what is going on earth are you aware? 00:20:33.72\00:20:38.14 NOTHING! 00:20:38.18\00:20:41.00 You don't know, You do not know. 00:20:41.04\00:20:44.98 Let's go to verse 6, I'm in Ecclesiastics 9:5, we just read 00:20:45.02\00:20:49.40 5 let's go to 6. 00:20:49.44\00:20:50.55 So if you have a girlfriend or wife, and loved her 00:20:58.18\00:21:00.24 Are you still loving her? 00:21:00.27\00:21:01.55 People say I will love you forever, no you won't! 00:21:01.59\00:21:07.23 You'll love till you die. 00:21:07.27\00:21:09.24 Amen, bring it back up guys, let's finish. 00:21:09.27\00:21:14.36 So once you die, that's it! 00:21:23.96\00:21:27.89 Amen! That's it! 00:21:27.93\00:21:31.60 Once you die, that is it! 00:21:31.63\00:21:34.97 Solomon, the wisest man that ever lived, is saying once you 00:21:35.00\00:21:38.60 die, no love, no hate, no envy, no jealousy, no malice, 00:21:38.64\00:21:42.60 no revenge, it ends when you close your eyes in death. 00:21:42.63\00:21:46.56 So if you don't get it right you don't get to come back 00:21:48.13\00:21:52.22 and say I'm sorry. 00:21:52.25\00:21:53.64 That's why you straighten things out why you are alive 00:21:57.66\00:21:59.92 ladies and gentlemen, because you don't get to come back 00:21:59.95\00:22:02.17 to say you are sorry. 00:22:02.21\00:22:03.68 Or if someone does you wrong you don't get to come back 00:22:03.72\00:22:06.87 and bug them. 00:22:06.91\00:22:09.05 Love, hate, envy, it all ends. Let's look at Ecclesiastes 9:10 00:22:13.56\00:22:17.89 So God is saying, Solomon is saying this also, under 00:22:33.12\00:22:37.81 inspiration from the Lord, what ever you have to do 00:22:37.85\00:22:42.47 do it now, and do it well because this is your one chance 00:22:42.50\00:22:47.67 ladies and gentlemen, this is it! 00:22:47.71\00:22:49.71 Whatever you do, put your whole body into it, put your whole 00:22:49.75\00:22:54.56 mind into it, put your whole soul into it, particularly 00:22:54.60\00:22:57.22 when it comes to serving the Lord because your life 00:22:57.25\00:22:59.84 depends on it. 00:22:59.87\00:23:01.14 Amen! Because when you come to the grave it's too late then. 00:23:01.17\00:23:06.89 There is nothing more that can be done, so do it now, 00:23:06.93\00:23:12.85 Because you don't have a part anymore in anything that happens 00:23:12.89\00:23:16.90 under the sun. 00:23:16.94\00:23:18.35 Amen! and Amen! Lets go to the book of Job, I'm in the book 00:23:18.39\00:23:23.11 of Job 14:14 00:23:23.15\00:23:27.80 So when we die Job is affirming that you're going to wait 00:23:38.99\00:23:42.44 someplace, we are going to stay someplace until the change comes 00:23:42.47\00:23:47.54 The change does not come at the point of death. 00:23:47.57\00:23:51.45 That's Job's point, it doesn't happen at death it happens 00:23:51.49\00:23:54.83 later on, and we are going to see what the later on is. 00:23:54.87\00:23:58.18 I'm in Job 17:13 now 00:23:58.22\00:24:00.28 I hope you are getting a chance to write these texts down or 00:24:02.84\00:24:04.86 outline them in your Bible because you can go back 00:24:04.90\00:24:06.90 and reference these things, it will be good to do that. 00:24:07.95\00:24:09.66 Job is continuing a series of statements that affirms the fact 00:24:17.16\00:24:21.38 that when I die after my toil here on planet Earth, I wait 00:24:21.41\00:24:27.06 as it were in the grave. 00:24:27.09\00:24:28.84 My house is then the grave. 00:24:28.87\00:24:30.58 I don't go anywhere, I wait and something spectacular 00:24:30.61\00:24:35.94 happens a little later on, and we will talk about that 00:24:35.97\00:24:39.15 in just a little bit. 00:24:39.18\00:24:42.26 The point I am trying to stress here is that there is no 00:24:42.29\00:24:46.37 indication anywhere in the Old Testament, certainly not 00:24:46.40\00:24:49.24 in the book of Job who discusses death quite a lot. 00:24:49.28\00:24:52.11 That when we die we ascend immediately into the 00:24:52.14\00:24:56.01 presence of God, and I want you to understand that, because 00:24:56.04\00:24:59.14 later on we are going to come to a text that seems to say that 00:24:59.18\00:25:02.27 I'm going to show you that it does not. 00:25:02.31\00:25:03.81 So the majority of the Scriptures that we have read 00:25:03.85\00:25:07.59 tonight, in fact all of them, have affirmed that we are 00:25:07.62\00:25:11.52 going to die, when we die we are going to the grave, 00:25:11.56\00:25:15.38 and we don't come back and haunt haunted houses or visit our 00:25:15.42\00:25:20.95 relatives on their birthday, or say nice things, 00:25:20.98\00:25:24.50 or even scores, when you die you die and ladies and gentlemen 00:25:24.54\00:25:29.81 as cold as it is, that is it! 00:25:29.84\00:25:32.14 That's why God says today if you hear His voice, do what? 00:25:32.18\00:25:35.87 Harden not your heart. 00:25:35.91\00:25:37.40 Because tomorrow is not promised to you. 00:25:37.44\00:25:39.74 So does the Bible say that the soul is immortal? 00:25:39.77\00:25:48.14 One word answer, Nope! 00:25:48.17\00:25:52.22 Your silence says, you are waiting for Scripture. 00:25:56.81\00:25:59.25 Amen! here it comes. Ezekiel 18:4 00:25:59.28\00:26:04.79 What book did I say? 00:26:04.82\00:26:05.79 Now according to that text, souls do what? 00:26:25.58\00:26:29.62 Die! The soul that sins shall die. 00:26:29.65\00:26:34.37 Very first text that we read. The second one, God alone has 00:26:34.40\00:26:38.52 immortality. Souls die! Further proof, same book of Ezekiel 00:26:38.55\00:26:45.58 same 18:20 00:26:45.61\00:26:48.63 The very first line, "the soul who sins shall die. " 00:27:07.03\00:27:12.31 Two times in that same chapter and there is a third time in 00:27:12.34\00:27:16.52 the same book of Ezekiel, we didn't and put it down 00:27:16.55\00:27:19.11 but it is in Ezekiel 33, the statement is made again. 00:27:19.14\00:27:22.75 "A soul that sins shall die. " 00:27:22.78\00:27:25.19 Can it get any plainer than that? 00:27:25.22\00:27:26.96 Souls do die! Romans 6:23 00:27:26.99\00:27:34.16 Romans 3:23 00:27:48.28\00:27:51.96 So the punishment for a sin is what? is death! 00:27:55.79\00:28:01.61 The gift of God is? Eternal Life 00:28:01.64\00:28:05.48 So if everybody had eternal life when they were born 00:28:05.51\00:28:08.90 then what is God's gift? 00:28:08.93\00:28:10.91 Doesn't make sense. 00:28:13.82\00:28:15.39 Eternal life is promised to those who are in Christ 00:28:15.42\00:28:19.99 as a gift from God. 00:28:20.02\00:28:23.81 Everybody doesn't have it. 00:28:23.84\00:28:26.16 Amen? Amen! The wages of sin is not eternal life, the wages 00:28:26.19\00:28:33.93 of sin is death! 00:28:33.96\00:28:35.39 So that sooner or later sinners are going to die. 00:28:35.42\00:28:41.12 Now You may not die today, you may not die tomorrow, 00:28:41.15\00:28:44.39 but sooner or later, God says the wages of sin is death. 00:28:44.42\00:28:49.71 Galatians 6:6, 7, "Be not deceived, God is not mocked 00:28:49.74\00:28:52.55 What a man sows he is going to... and the wages of sin 00:28:52.58\00:28:56.63 if you work for sin, you are going to get your wages. 00:28:56.66\00:28:59.75 It would be unfair to have you work for something 00:28:59.78\00:29:02.21 and not pay you what you deserve. 00:29:02.24\00:29:03.50 So the wages of sin is death! Is that plain? 00:29:03.53\00:29:06.97 So that just simply means that everybody doesn't live for ever. 00:29:07.00\00:29:11.33 Sinners are going to die. Amen! 00:29:11.36\00:29:16.49 Very, Very true. 1 Corinthians 15:26 00:29:16.52\00:29:20.83 So one day God is going to destroy sinners and death. 00:29:30.10\00:29:36.20 It is all going to be over. 00:29:36.23\00:29:38.66 Death is no figment, it claimed the life of Christ, but it 00:29:38.69\00:29:45.54 could not keep Him. Can you say Amen? 00:29:45.57\00:29:47.64 Even Jesus did not ascend to heaven immediately. 00:29:47.67\00:29:54.14 Now this is a very important point, even Jesus didn't 00:29:54.17\00:29:57.61 die and go right to heaven. 00:29:57.64\00:29:59.76 Let's look at John 20:17 00:29:59.79\00:30:03.22 So Christ didn't die go right to the kingdom. 00:30:25.72\00:30:28.78 He did not, nor do we die and shoot right to the kingdom. 00:30:28.81\00:30:31.97 We are going to wrestle with that in just a little bit. 00:30:32.01\00:30:35.16 I will come back to that. 00:30:35.19\00:30:36.62 Let's go to the book of Acts, What book did I say? 00:30:36.65\00:30:38.78 Acts 2:34 00:30:38.81\00:30:44.22 Now David's life was an incredible life. 00:30:57.53\00:30:59.49 Those of you who has studied the life of David what a saga. 00:30:59.52\00:31:03.53 When he was good, he was very good, when he was bad 00:31:03.56\00:31:08.89 Lord, he was very bad. 00:31:08.92\00:31:11.65 Just about every sin that you can name, David at one time 00:31:11.68\00:31:20.28 or another, in his life, committed. 00:31:20.31\00:31:21.52 He surely did, as you pick them off, David pretty much 00:31:21.55\00:31:26.17 stepped on all of them. 00:31:26.20\00:31:27.55 Yet God called him a man after Mine own heart. 00:31:27.58\00:31:34.01 One of the reasons he did that was because when David was 00:31:34.04\00:31:37.13 called for his sin, David never made excuses. 00:31:37.16\00:31:40.14 He said Lord if you have to punish me, punish me. 00:31:40.17\00:31:44.55 Just save me. 00:31:44.58\00:31:46.24 You see God can work with that. 00:31:46.27\00:31:48.06 When you say Lord I have sinned, I am throwing myself on Your 00:31:48.09\00:31:51.86 mercy, do what you have to do, just don't block my name out. 00:31:51.89\00:31:54.35 Just don't take my name off the list. 00:31:54.38\00:31:57.38 God can do that. 00:31:57.41\00:31:59.06 If you look at Saul's life, and David's life, Saul the first 00:31:59.09\00:32:03.57 king, David the second. 00:32:03.60\00:32:04.79 Saul was rejected by God, David was not. 00:32:04.82\00:32:08.14 David's list of sins far eclipses Saul's. 00:32:08.17\00:32:11.56 David's, dare we say, rap sheet was much longer than Saul's. 00:32:11.59\00:32:15.90 The difference between Saul and David, is that when David 00:32:15.93\00:32:20.08 was called to account for his sins, David said Lord 00:32:20.11\00:32:23.60 I have sinned and I repent. 00:32:23.63\00:32:27.10 Saul made excuses and he did not repent. 00:32:27.13\00:32:33.14 Saul made excuses, that is a lesson for you and me. 00:32:33.17\00:32:36.60 When God calls you, the best thing you can do, 00:32:36.63\00:32:40.93 the only thing you can do is say Lord, I sinned. 00:32:40.96\00:32:43.82 Create in me a clean heart and renew a right spirit. 00:32:43.85\00:32:49.42 God knows you sinned. 00:32:49.45\00:32:50.79 You have to admit it to yourself. 00:32:50.82\00:32:52.73 and if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive. 00:32:52.76\00:32:58.88 But David, the Bible says, has not gone into heaven. 00:32:58.91\00:33:05.17 He is dead and buried. 00:33:05.20\00:33:07.39 Right to this day. Acts 2:29 00:33:07.42\00:33:10.06 Now, does it say that David is in the presence of God? 00:33:23.03\00:33:26.17 Does it say that David is dancing around the throne? 00:33:26.20\00:33:29.66 NO! New testament, book of Acts the word is given, David is 00:33:29.69\00:33:36.69 dead and buried in the tomb, to this very day. 00:33:36.72\00:33:40.18 He didn't immediately go to heaven, he didn't really go to 00:33:40.21\00:33:42.79 Hell, in the tomb waiting for something, waiting for something 00:33:42.82\00:33:48.05 and we are going to come to that in just a little bit. 00:33:48.08\00:33:49.85 Nowhere does it give indication, that the great David is in glory 00:33:49.88\00:33:54.70 with the Lord. This is very, very important! 00:33:54.73\00:33:57.14 If anybody would have gotten in, could have been David, 00:33:57.17\00:34:00.15 should have been David, but David is waiting just like 00:34:00.18\00:34:04.10 we are waiting. 00:34:04.13\00:34:05.33 The Bible is singular, straight and secular and makes sense. 00:34:05.36\00:34:09.46 It says David is in the ground waiting. 00:34:09.49\00:34:11.63 1 Corinthians 15:51-54 What book did I say? 00:34:11.66\00:34:13.94 1 Corinthians 15:51-54 00:34:13.97\00:34:20.35 Now let's look at this! 00:35:17.07\00:35:18.32 The Bible says it is going to happen at the last trump. 00:35:18.35\00:35:23.75 The trumpet shall sound and the dead will come up incorruptible. 00:35:23.78\00:35:30.39 At that point death is swallowed up in victory, it's the key text 00:35:30.42\00:35:36.89 that Paul is writing to the Corinthian church. 00:35:36.92\00:35:39.90 You do not go to heaven immediately when you die, 00:35:39.93\00:35:42.33 nor do you go to hell when you die, you wait for the 00:35:42.36\00:35:46.97 trumpet of God, you wait for 00:35:47.00\00:35:49.39 the day of judgment, 00:35:49.42\00:35:50.85 you wait for the return of Christ and at that point 00:35:50.88\00:35:54.29 you put on a incorruption. 00:35:54.32\00:35:56.34 At that point you're corruptible body, your mortal body becomes 00:35:56.37\00:36:01.72 immortal, do you understand that? 00:36:01.75\00:36:03.90 It is very, very important! 1 Corinthians 15:16-23 00:36:03.93\00:36:09.98 Now let's just tie a bow around this, if we can. 00:37:15.10\00:37:18.94 The Bible is saying some very important things. 00:37:18.97\00:37:21.48 He is saying that Christ's resurrection from the dead 00:37:21.51\00:37:25.74 guarantees that those who fall asleep in Christ, will be 00:37:25.77\00:37:29.58 resurrected from the dead. Can you say Amen? 00:37:29.61\00:37:31.62 Resurrected, it means that they will go down and come up. 00:37:32.87\00:37:37.56 But it says that is going to happen when Jesus comes again. 00:37:37.59\00:37:44.29 Not at the point of death, is that clear? 00:37:44.32\00:37:47.06 It is very, very important, because a lot of people are 00:37:47.09\00:37:50.13 teaching you some things that are not biblical. 00:37:50.16\00:37:51.67 You need to know what the truth is. 00:37:51.70\00:37:54.86 Jesus is coming to gather His own. 00:37:54.89\00:37:58.76 If Jesus is coming back with His reward, and you go to heaven 00:37:58.79\00:38:05.66 at the point of death, what is Jesus coming back for? 00:38:05.69\00:38:10.24 So why is He coming back here? 00:38:17.28\00:38:20.52 The saved are there. 00:38:20.55\00:38:24.08 Wasted trip, don't you think? 00:38:24.11\00:38:26.50 Burning gas for nothing. 00:38:26.53\00:38:28.70 Let's go on. 00:38:33.55\00:38:34.52 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 00:38:34.53\00:38:42.66 Now, it's interesting that Paul ends that statement to the 00:40:22.41\00:40:26.57 brethren at Thessalonica with a statement, comfort one another 00:40:26.60\00:40:30.69 with these words, he's saying that because when you really 00:40:30.72\00:40:34.24 know that, it shouldn't distress you, it should comfort you. 00:40:34.27\00:40:38.81 It is designed to be a comfort. 00:40:38.84\00:40:42.09 My dad died in 1979, the year that I was ordained. 00:40:42.12\00:40:50.49 Never got to come to my ordination because he had 00:40:50.52\00:40:56.81 a stroke and was somewhat disabled, couldn't come 00:40:56.84\00:41:00.03 to my ordination. 00:41:00.06\00:41:01.36 I have said this so many times, that I had the privilege of 00:41:01.39\00:41:05.85 baptizing my father one month before he died 00:41:05.88\00:41:08.21 of a massive stroke. 00:41:08.24\00:41:10.26 We were very pleased about that. 00:41:10.29\00:41:11.50 My mother lived on a number of years, it was my privilege 00:41:11.53\00:41:16.61 to bring her into the church and baptize her also. 00:41:16.64\00:41:19.84 But the last ten years of my mom's life, she also suffered 00:41:19.87\00:41:24.82 a number of mini strokes. Each one taking her further 00:41:24.85\00:41:29.96 into herself so that the last 4 or 5 years of her life she 00:41:29.99\00:41:34.61 could not communicate with us. 00:41:34.64\00:41:37.06 She couldn't talk, she could walk some, when I would go home 00:41:37.09\00:41:40.53 I knew that she recognized me, by the twinkle in her eye. 00:41:40.56\00:41:45.66 You know the dance in her eye. 00:41:45.69\00:41:47.11 She would take my hand and squeeze it very firmly. 00:41:47.14\00:41:50.77 But she could audibleize, she couldn't say hello but I 00:41:50.80\00:41:56.09 knew new she knew I was there. My sister determined as a nurse 00:41:56.12\00:41:59.74 that we were not going to put her in a nursing home. 00:41:59.77\00:42:01.51 We determined we would keep her home. 00:42:01.54\00:42:03.12 So my sister took care of her. 00:42:03.15\00:42:05.39 Between the two of us we got our finances together. 00:42:05.42\00:42:09.13 I sold my car and we got a hospital bed for her, 00:42:09.16\00:42:12.06 and we got a number of things for her. 00:42:12.09\00:42:14.01 To try and keep her home, we didn't want to put 00:42:14.04\00:42:16.74 her in a nursing facility. 00:42:16.77\00:42:18.05 My sister decided that she would make that sacrifice 00:42:18.08\00:42:19.91 and said if you are going to make the physical sacrifice 00:42:19.94\00:42:22.40 I will make the financial sacrifice, if I ever have any 00:42:22.43\00:42:25.44 money and you need money, I will send it home so that my 00:42:25.47\00:42:28.71 mothers last years can be fine. 00:42:28.74\00:42:30.59 But she declined precipitated- lessly the last couple years. 00:42:30.62\00:42:35.05 Now do you think if my dad were in heaven looking down 00:42:35.08\00:42:39.83 at his wife of just shy of 40 years, going down to the point 00:42:39.86\00:42:46.91 where she had to be fed through a straw. 00:42:46.94\00:42:48.45 Couldn't take care of her bathroom needs. 00:42:48.48\00:42:53.55 My sister had to bath her, and walk her, and nurse her, 00:42:53.58\00:42:57.77 and actually move her limbs so they wouldn't freeze. 00:42:57.80\00:43:00.00 Do you think my father could enjoy heaven knowing that 00:43:00.03\00:43:03.60 person who had shared his life for 40 years was suffering 00:43:03.63\00:43:07.49 like that, would heaven be heaven if you had to watch 00:43:07.52\00:43:09.74 the suffering here on earth? 00:43:09.77\00:43:11.05 It would not! So the idea that people fly immediately to 00:43:11.08\00:43:16.18 heaven and turn around and look at what is going on down here 00:43:16.21\00:43:18.93 on earth is unbiblical. 00:43:18.96\00:43:20.27 Heaven couldn't be heaven if you have to watch what is going on 00:43:20.30\00:43:24.32 down here on earth. 00:43:24.35\00:43:25.53 I was just looking the other day at all the carnage of 9/11. 00:43:25.56\00:43:30.66 If Saints were in heaven watching that 9/11, could 00:43:30.69\00:43:33.74 heaven be heaven? 00:43:33.77\00:43:34.74 Could you enjoy heaven watching what is going on, what mankind 00:43:34.75\00:43:37.88 is doing to mankind? 00:43:37.91\00:43:39.17 The drugs, the violence, the guns, the pornography, the filth 00:43:39.20\00:43:45.08 even on TV sets, our literature, how can heaven be heaven 00:43:45.11\00:43:49.09 if I'm in heaven watching all that stuff that is going on? 00:43:49.12\00:43:51.28 Heaven could not simply be heaven, it would not be heaven. 00:43:51.31\00:43:55.85 Solomon says that once we die we have no more portion of 00:43:55.88\00:44:00.43 what's going on, on planet Earth 00:44:00.46\00:44:01.58 Our loves, our hates they are all forgotten and we wait until 00:44:01.61\00:44:05.06 the coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 00:44:05.09\00:44:07.36 Can you say Amen? 00:44:07.39\00:44:08.92 If we believe that Jesus died and rose again even so God will 00:44:08.95\00:44:14.86 bring with him those who sleep with Jesus. 00:44:14.89\00:44:17.24 There are basically 4 classes of people, I'm looking at my time. 00:44:17.27\00:44:20.82 You have, when Christ comes, the righteous living. 00:44:20.85\00:44:23.49 You have the righteous dead. You have the unrighteous living. 00:44:23.52\00:44:28.04 And the unrighteous dead. Those last two categories 00:44:28.07\00:44:31.45 we don't have time to go into right now, but it is safe to say 00:44:31.48\00:44:35.57 that those of us who are alive, those who have died in Christ, 00:44:35.60\00:44:39.07 at that point will ascend to be with Jesus. 00:44:39.10\00:44:42.36 The Bible says we will ever be with the Lord. 00:44:42.39\00:44:45.33 Can you say Amen? 00:44:45.36\00:44:46.83 A couple more things, then we are done. 00:44:46.86\00:44:51.70 We saw what 1 Thessalonians had to say, and we saw the 00:44:51.73\00:44:58.01 order of ascension. 00:44:58.04\00:44:59.32 What about the idea that souls burn forever? 00:44:59.35\00:45:05.79 Here is the problem, if you buy, I'll use that terminology, if 00:45:05.82\00:45:13.83 you believe that creation, at birth you are given, or mankind 00:45:13.86\00:45:20.84 is given an immortal soul, as I said before, you 00:45:20.87\00:45:24.91 immediately dig a hole for yourself and here's why. 00:45:24.94\00:45:28.03 If you have an immortal soul at birth, that means at death 00:45:28.06\00:45:34.65 you have to put that soul someplace. 00:45:34.68\00:45:36.63 Does that makes sense? Since it doesn't die, you have 00:45:36.66\00:45:41.59 to put it someplace, you have to develop a theology that puts 00:45:41.62\00:45:45.44 So if a person says to you I believe in an immortal soul 00:45:45.47\00:45:48.73 then you don't have to ask them what they believe about death. 00:45:48.76\00:45:52.05 They have already told you. 00:45:52.08\00:45:53.26 One they have to believe that soul goes immediately to heaven 00:45:53.29\00:45:58.13 or hell, they have to believe that because the 00:45:58.16\00:46:00.70 soul is immortal. 00:46:00.73\00:46:01.87 So since it is immortal and does not die, you have to develop 00:46:01.90\00:46:05.62 a theology that says the soul has to go someplace immediately 00:46:05.65\00:46:09.09 at the point of death. 00:46:09.12\00:46:10.09 So that means they also believe in an eternally burning hell. 00:46:10.10\00:46:14.48 Because if the soul is immortal that it has to be someplace 00:46:14.51\00:46:19.07 for eternity, make sense? 00:46:19.10\00:46:21.24 So that means if it is going to hell, then hell has to burn 00:46:21.27\00:46:26.25 forever because the soul never dies. 00:46:26.28\00:46:29.73 You see the closet you sort of box yourself in? 00:46:29.76\00:46:32.83 Then you turn a loving God into a monster, 00:46:32.86\00:46:37.43 because someone is saying, How could God be just and fair 00:46:37.46\00:46:42.26 loving and then burn people forever, it doesn't seem fitting 00:46:42.29\00:46:46.42 for loving God. How could God do that? 00:46:46.45\00:46:48.55 So you have to invent this theology that says people burn 00:46:48.58\00:46:53.17 forever because you have this soul that you say is eternal. 00:46:53.20\00:46:58.58 The Bible says, the soul that sins shall die. 00:46:58.61\00:47:02.88 At creation, our very first Scripture, our first lesson, 00:47:02.91\00:47:07.03 Body plus breath equals soul. Body, no breath, no soul. 00:47:07.06\00:47:14.54 Amen! Well what about fire that burns forever? 00:47:14.58\00:47:18.32 Well let's go to the book of Jude. 00:47:18.36\00:47:19.33 We are running into a little thing the Bible does. 00:47:22.00\00:47:24.13 Look at this! Jude verse 7. 00:47:24.17\00:47:25.14 Hmmm! Sodom and Gomorrah were burned with eternal fire. 00:47:50.20\00:47:55.98 Are Sodom and Gomorrah burning today? No! 00:47:56.01\00:48:02.24 If we got on our plane and went over to Jordan or Israel 00:48:02.27\00:48:07.85 and went to the southern end of the Dead Sea, 00:48:07.88\00:48:10.14 would we find Sodom and Gomorrah burning? 00:48:10.17\00:48:13.64 No! So what does the Bible mean when it is talking about 00:48:13.67\00:48:19.25 or mentions eternal fire? 00:48:19.28\00:48:22.08 What kind of fire is eternal fire? 00:48:22.11\00:48:27.69 Eternal fire is fire that burns with the eternal affect. 00:48:27.73\00:48:37.28 Did you hear me? Eternal affect! 00:48:37.31\00:48:42.25 In other words, when God burns it, it is gone once and for all 00:48:42.28\00:48:49.84 and forever. 00:48:49.87\00:48:51.17 It will never come back again, the effect is eternal, 00:48:51.20\00:48:56.49 not the duration. 00:48:56.52\00:48:58.63 You are mighty quiet. 00:49:00.91\00:49:01.88 The affect is eternal, not the duration. 00:49:01.89\00:49:07.18 Sodom and Gomorrah were burnt with eternal fire. 00:49:07.21\00:49:13.07 Affect not duration. 00:49:15.36\00:49:17.81 Now let me deal quickly in the time is left to me 00:49:17.84\00:49:21.79 with a text that many, many people use to try to justify 00:49:21.82\00:49:26.36 the idea that when you leave the body you go into the 00:49:26.39\00:49:29.64 the presence of the Lord. 00:49:29.67\00:49:30.64 2 Corinthians 5, what's book did I say? 2 Corinthians 5:8 00:49:30.65\00:49:35.65 And what is interesting is that this theology has been based 00:49:35.68\00:49:38.57 on this one text, but you never based a theology on one text. 00:49:38.60\00:49:41.78 The Bible says here a little there a little. 00:49:41.81\00:49:43.29 You look at every place the Bible speaks about a certain 00:49:43.32\00:49:45.69 issue and develop your theology after you read all the Bible 00:49:45.72\00:49:48.71 has to say, not just one text. 00:49:48.74\00:49:50.31 Does that sound to you like a theological statement? 00:49:55.95\00:49:59.18 Shouldn't because it is not. 00:49:59.21\00:50:02.31 It is Paul's desire, because if you read on he says, 00:50:02.34\00:50:06.15 listen, whether I'm absent or present I'm going to be in Jesus 00:50:06.18\00:50:08.64 He is saying I would rather be out of this tent, I'd rather 00:50:08.67\00:50:13.01 be out of this body with its aches and pains 00:50:13.04\00:50:15.16 and be with the Lord. 00:50:15.19\00:50:16.76 It is his desire, it is not a statement that when I leave here 00:50:16.79\00:50:20.32 I'm going to the Lord. 00:50:20.35\00:50:21.53 Now I can say the same thing, I would rather be out of 00:50:21.56\00:50:24.89 body and with Jesus. 00:50:24.92\00:50:27.32 Amen! Anybody else? 00:50:27.35\00:50:30.82 Yeah! I'd rather that! 00:50:30.85\00:50:32.57 I'd rather be out of this world and with Jesus. 00:50:32.60\00:50:36.65 Amen! This world is so good to use you want to stay 00:50:40.32\00:50:44.28 in it forever? NO! 00:50:44.31\00:50:46.11 I'm getting old, hate to admit it, but I am. 00:50:46.14\00:50:51.66 You know when I was a child, we used to go into my 00:50:51.69\00:50:54.45 father's room and I use to watch my dad get up 00:50:54.48\00:50:58.19 in the morning, he had his routine. 00:50:58.22\00:50:59.66 He would get up, sit on the side of the bed, 00:50:59.69\00:51:02.12 and make sure that everything was still there. 00:51:02.15\00:51:04.61 You know! And we would say, daddy, come on, get up. 00:51:04.65\00:51:07.63 Because as children you wake up and you get up. 00:51:07.66\00:51:10.61 but now at 50 years of age, I get up and sort of sit on 00:51:10.64\00:51:15.08 the side of the bed now. 00:51:15.12\00:51:16.13 I don't just jump up, actually what I do is get up and slide 00:51:16.16\00:51:20.02 to the floor and pray. 00:51:20.05\00:51:21.44 but I don't hop out of bed to pray, I slide to the floor 00:51:21.47\00:51:25.81 and pray. 00:51:25.85\00:51:27.18 Yeah! because I'm getting old. 00:51:27.21\00:51:29.64 I wish it were not true, but I am getting old. 00:51:29.67\00:51:33.96 Now don't let this lack of hair be, or let that frighten you 00:51:33.99\00:51:41.04 or disturb you, I am not bald, I am shaved, there is difference 00:51:41.07\00:51:45.36 shaved is volitional, if I let my hair grow it will grow 00:51:45.39\00:51:51.21 but it wouldn't grow right here. 00:51:51.24\00:51:52.54 So rather than deal with that I just took it all off. 00:51:52.57\00:51:57.28 So I'm not bald, I'm shaved. 00:51:57.31\00:51:59.12 Bald means you have no hair. I have hair, 00:51:59.15\00:52:01.39 it's all on the inside. 00:52:01.42\00:52:03.11 So Paul says I would rather be out of this body 00:52:09.18\00:52:11.25 and be with the Lord. 00:52:11.28\00:52:12.57 Now I agree with Paul, but the Bible says we have got to wait 00:52:12.60\00:52:16.56 because Jesus has asked us to wait. 00:52:16.59\00:52:18.75 Now, I'm going to skip over a couple things, 00:52:18.78\00:52:20.31 and go to a very powerful text, John 5, let's go to 00:52:20.34\00:52:30.10 John 5:28 00:52:30.13\00:52:35.20 I'm throwing my graphic guys a curve and jumping a little bit 00:52:35.23\00:52:37.85 because time is getting away from me, but here we go. 00:52:37.89\00:52:39.80 John 5:28-29. 00:52:39.83\00:52:42.33 Is That pretty plain? 00:52:57.31\00:52:58.49 All of those in the grave are going to come one day 00:52:58.52\00:53:01.54 to the resurrection of life, or condemnation. 00:53:01.57\00:53:04.40 I could give you some numbers, like the term Ruwach or Nephesh 00:53:04.43\00:53:07.61 which are the terms that are used in the Old Testament for 00:53:07.64\00:53:11.04 souls being used 388 times. 00:53:11.07\00:53:13.30 None mean a conscious thing that goes 00:53:13.33\00:53:16.23 to heaven immediately when you die, that is not biblical. 00:53:16.26\00:53:18.84 The one text that I really want to come down to 00:53:18.87\00:53:21.75 is in Revelation where Christ says, "I am coming quickly 00:53:21.78\00:53:26.94 and my reward is with me. " 00:53:26.97\00:53:30.99 Jesus says, "hold fast, I am coming quickly and my reward 00:53:31.02\00:53:36.05 is with me. " That is a powerful text because Christ is saying 00:53:36.08\00:53:40.92 to us, I'm coming to get you. 00:53:40.95\00:53:44.03 I love you so much, I'm not going to send you on 00:53:44.06\00:53:52.20 I'm coming back to get you. 00:53:52.23\00:53:53.29 "behold I come quickly, and my reward is with me according 00:53:53.32\00:53:58.24 to every man as his work shall be. " 00:53:58.28\00:54:01.06 We put together a lot of texts and we have gone very, very fast 00:54:01.09\00:54:04.20 but it is an important doctrine, it is important that you 00:54:04.23\00:54:08.49 understand what happens when you die 00:54:08.52\00:54:10.37 so that there is no fear in death. 00:54:10.40\00:54:12.36 There is no consternation in death. 00:54:12.39\00:54:14.76 We go to our graves and we wait the call of Christ and then 00:54:14.79\00:54:18.89 Christ comes with a trump and the graves open and the dead 00:54:18.92\00:54:22.08 in Christ come alive. 00:54:22.11\00:54:23.74 We join those who are dead, those who are still alive 00:54:23.77\00:54:26.38 should that be your case, and we as ascend up to meet Jesus 00:54:26.41\00:54:29.29 and we will always be with the Lord. 00:54:29.33\00:54:31.49 That is God's will for everybody here and everybody across 00:54:31.52\00:54:35.12 the planet and everybody under the sound of my voice. 00:54:35.15\00:54:37.94 It is God's will that you meet Him in peace. 00:54:37.97\00:54:41.14 Should you die, or should you be alive when He comes 00:54:41.17\00:54:44.97 it is God's desire that all of us ascend in the clouds 00:54:45.01\00:54:48.77 and be with the Lord for ever and ever. 00:54:48.81\00:54:52.93