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Hello and welcome
to Health for Lifetime.
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I'm your host Don Mackintosh.
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We're glad you
are with us today.
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Have you ever
wanted your kids to work.
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We're gonna talk about
work and it's a fact on kids
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and talking with
us about this subject
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and many others
is Dr. Neil Nedley.
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We're glad you are
with us today Dr. Nedley.
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Thank you,
always good to be here
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for Health for Lifetime.
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Well, we're looking at
a whole bunch of studies.
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We're looking at, you
know, kind of a high spots,
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but is kind of a newest stuff
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so to speak here in 2008
and one of the fascinating
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studies you share with me
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had to do with kids and work.
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Yes, actually
this was a study done
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on British children showing
that the brain development
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is being threatened
by their failure to work
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with their hands
in school and at home.
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And what happens
is with wood work,
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metal work, craft,
music or car mechanic,
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these types of
classes are actually
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being dropped by many schools.
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And in its place
children are playing
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with computers
and becoming software
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instead of a
screwdriver society.
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Said the reports author
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and this was a
report commissioned
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by the Ruskin
Mill Educational Trust.
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So, in another words
working with your hands not,
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I mean well you know,
some of those computer games
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and different things you know,
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different ones,
they have a console,
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isn't that
working with your hands.
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Well, it is, but
its actually working
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with them in a 2D environment.
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Working with ones
own hands in a real world
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3D environment turns out
to be imperative for cognitive
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and intellectual development.
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And we're in a 3D
world, we really weren't man
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to just function in a 2D world
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which is what software
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and the computer
screen is all about.
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And what's
happening is these 3D types
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of classes wood
working, crafts, metal work,
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mechanic type of
work is becoming much less
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common place, its
actually impairing
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the potential as far as
IQ potential of these kids.
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And this will tell how
much the IQ is impaired,
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in another words, you
got a kid that's doing
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that versus the kid that's not,
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does it give any indication?
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Well, it could be up
to ten point difference.
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Ten point difference.
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Yeah, that's the
whole standard deviation.
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So, you know,
there are certain schools
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also that kind
of, they are called
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vocational schools
where they focus almost
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exclusively on
these kind of things.
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Do you loose any
benefit of exclusively focusing
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on those things versus others.
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I think you need a
combination in order
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to get the full
intellectual development.
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You do need a
principle the education
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where you can learn, you know,
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Newton's Laws and you can learn
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the firm things of which we live
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our everyday life
in, chemistry, biology,
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you know, physiology, history,
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those type of
things are very important,
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but in combination with that,
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we need to be able
to work with our hands
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and unfortunately
our society as a whole
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has taken a downward
trend to those who work
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with their hands, you know,
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more vocational
schools for instance
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are thought of this, you know,
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not really the
attractive type of schools
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where you are just
going to be a common laborer
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for instance and you
know, those who go to Harvard
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to not work with their hands
at all and so that's thought
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to be the type of
education, but in reality
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people would do far better
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with actually a
combination approach.
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You know, I worked and sometimes
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you do too at the Weimar College
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and that was for their
program over the years,
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you had the work
and you have to study,
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you have to witnessing,
so you had that you know,
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intellectual
stimulation of the study
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and then also the
work was intellectually
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stimulating but they
rotated through different
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environments on the
campus they rotate through,
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all those different
things you mentioned, you know,
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they spend time in those areas,
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right, that
actually ends up being,
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I mean they give
it for academic credit
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and that's actually
what they should be doing
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because it is increasing
their IQ by ten points.
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Yeah, absolutely and you know,
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even the
agriculture training you know,
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at Weimar agricultural training
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is an important part,
that's a 3D environment,
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working with the
soil and tiling the soil
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and planting the
plant in the right place
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and having the
right nutrients there.
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I mean you can do a
lot of didactic work
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with that and you can
also do a lot of 3D work
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with it where you are
utilizing your muscles
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and that turns out
to be very beneficial
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as far as the
brain in concerned.
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In another study you showed us,
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you are going to
show us, it had to do
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with stroke patients and
how to recover from a stroke?
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How many people
have a stroke by the way?
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Is that a leading thing here
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in western
countries or around the world?
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Well, it is. It
is a leading problem.
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But before we get to
that, I just like to quote
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to you a little bit
more from the study.
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Oh, the work study.
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Yeah, the work study program.
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An 11-year-old today
have deficitsin certain areas
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of their cognitive
development and a decline
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in the ability
of young engineers
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have been noted in apprentices
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to conceptualize straight
forward mechanical problems.
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And the report
says, it clears points us
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strengthening
role of 3D learning
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and crafts and
educational policy today.
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And the report
went on to say parents
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too have a responsibility
to ensure their children
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have more of a
hands on upbringing.
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And so if you
are parent out there,
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encourage the hands on
3D upbringing of your child.
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It talked about
the work and it also
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talked about the music,
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3D they will be
like playing the piano,
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playing the violin,
that's right, and woodwind.
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That's also 3D type of learning
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is musical learning
and one of the reasons
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why music has turn out
be intellectually helpful.
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And so working with
your hands should not
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be considered D-class
and this not much attitude
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that some people have towards
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that is very misplaced.
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Fascinating. Now strokes,
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leading cause of
death in western countries.
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It is. Many people have strokes
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and I think you
are talking about
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how to recover from them.
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Well, it turns
out stroke patients
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who have a positive
outlook function better
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on their own three months
after leaving the hospital
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than stroke survivors
with a r gloomier attitude.
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And this was a
study that was published
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in psychosomatic
medicine in May of 2008.
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And they took look
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at independent of
the stroke victim.
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And what they
found is those who has
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positive attitude
and strive towards
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independence ended up
functioning far better,
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even though they might
have the same level of stroke
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as someone else who
just felt more hapless
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and wanted other people
to help them out as result
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of being paralyzed on one side,
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or loosing
their ability to speak
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or some of the
other devastating effects
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that can occur with stroke.
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So in another words,
sometimes helping out
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is not the best thing
when they have a stroke,
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encouraging them
to be independent
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and or the other way around
if someone who has a stroke
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says look I want
to do that myself,
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don't say oh no,
I'll do it for you.
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Yeah, Dr. Glenn Ostir,
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from University of Texas
Medical Branch in Galveston
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was the one who
conducted the study
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and he said being as independent
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as you can is
very, very important.
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He said for people
recovering from stroke.
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It makes a big difference
in the quality of life
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for not only themselves but also
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the quality of
life of their families.
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Of course I mean
the family members
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don't have to do as many
things for them probably.
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The study was a
pretty well done.
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They did it 12 point
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positive emotion summary test.
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And so every stroke patient
had to take this 12 point
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positive emotion summary test.
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And they found out for
every point improvement
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in that and three months later
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they had a point
improvement in their functional
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independence measure
which is a way of being
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able to grade how well a person
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has recovered from the stroke.
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So people who decide
to tackle stroke recovery
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as a challenge will
do better than those
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who don't again said Dr. Ostir.
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So it's a decision,
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they need to make the decision,
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look this is a setback
but this disappointment
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really is my
appointment to just to do best
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I can and just
retrain myself and go forward.
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You know after I
read the study Don,
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it reminded me of
a story of the one
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who wrote the classic
book Ministry of Healing.
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Okay, so Ellen
White. Ellen White,
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yeah, her husband
James has suffered a stroke,
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its clear to me
based on the symptoms
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and what the doctor said
he had a...he had a stroke
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a result of having
Atrial Fibrillation.
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But it was a
pretty devastating stroke
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and it really set him
back and it was before harvest
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time and she did a Nifty thing,
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she didn't tell him
that she was doing this,
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but she went
around to all of these
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surrounding neighbors
and told them not to help
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him harvest, you know,
their land at that time.
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Of course their
income was based on that,
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their food
supply for that winter
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and he was so hurt by the fact
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that they wouldn't
help him out and he got
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frustrated and
realized all of this was going
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to waste and he
did his level best
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to go out there
and do it himself.
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And show them.
Yeah, and show them.
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And he was upset
about it but he did it
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and it was a
great recovery tool,
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it was really rehab
is what he went through
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and he recovered
almost completely
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from that devastating stroke.
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It's almost like
Ellen White maybe read
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the study here. That's right.
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I've the opposite
story of my grandmother had
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six strokes before she
died and one see had one
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or two strokes my grandfather
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would rush around and
do everything for her.
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And I even realized
at that particular time
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I probably
wasn't the most helpful.
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It worn him out, it
didn't help her, right.
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And so really what
you are saying here
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is not only the
person that has the stroke
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but that the person
around them needs to really
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encourage them, yeah,
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to get back in
there and get busy.
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Exactly and try to do that,
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so they can be emotionally
as positive as possible.
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In James case, you know,
he was kind of emotionally
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negative about this,
but it became a necessity
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for him to do
it and so if people
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stroke victims can see
that hey it's a necessity,
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I've going to
have to try to do this,
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they are going to
end up doing better
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but if they can do
little positive emotions,
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they will even do better yeah.
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So did you give us
the reference on that,
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where was that from
that particular study.
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Yes, this was published
in Psychosomatic Medicine
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in May of 2008
by Dr. Glenn Ostir,
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from University of Texas
Medical Branch in Galveston.
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Are you ready for
some good tasting food,
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can we cover
that in two minutes.
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I think we can. This
is a very interesting
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study for me and
this was a study done
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by the Smell and Taste Treatment
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and Research
Foundation in Chicago.
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And it actually
showed when the food
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is tastier we eat less.
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Now in another words
boosting the flavor of food
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actually aids in weight loss.
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Now lot of people
think this is counter in two
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if the food tastes
better you would think
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that they want to eat
more, but in reality he showed
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the opposite people
have a tendency to try
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and get more taste
and flavor by eating more
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and that's really
a sign that the cooks
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aren't doing that good a job.
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They took a look at 1,500
subjects with initial weight
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of 208 pounds
and what they found
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is when they had
flavors, in another words
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the savory foods would
have onion or ranch flavor,
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or chattered
flavor on salty foods
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on sugary free types of flavors
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like spearmint,
banana, strawberry and malt
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was on the non savory
foods, when they did this people
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actually enjoyed the
food more and they ate less.
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Well fascinating,
so in another words,
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the secret to this whole thing
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is good tasting food and then
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you will save it
longer and not eat as much.
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Well, the phenomena
exist with the first
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bite of food taste
great, but the last bite
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doesn't taste so good.
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The studies author says,
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for instance if I order a pizza,
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the pizza box smells so good,
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when it first comes
in and then after I eat
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the first thing I
want to do is get rid
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of the pizza box because
the smell that was pleasant
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before has become unpleasant.
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When you cook
spaghetti all day long,
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at the end of the day
you don't feel like eating
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spaghetti because
you smelled that all day
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along and these are
good smelling foods,
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but the point is
obesity has really caused
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in many
respects by poor cooking.
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And if we can
retrain the cooks to give us
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tasty food and healthy food,
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we will eat less and weigh less.
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Are your wife's a good
cook, my wife is a good cook.
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And neither one of us are obese.
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That's right. We're
talking with Dr. Neil Nedley.
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We're talking about
Cutting Edge Studies.
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Join us when we come back.
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