Welcome back we've been
talking with Dr. Neil Nedley
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and we've talked
about some exciting things
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we're glad you're
with us Dr. Neil Nedley.
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Well, thank you it's good
to be here Don, as always.
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Now let's
continue our discussion
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we have some other
studies to look at,
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we want to look at
sports and the placebo effect.
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Yes, it's kind of interesting
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we've looked at placebo effect
as far as diseases concerned
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and that's why we do
what's called randomized studies
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where if we really
want to see of something
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it's beneficial
like we've just looked at
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red yeast rice for instance,
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we take it and
compare with a placebo
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and then do a comparison study
and the individual doesn't know
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if they're getting
the active component
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or the placebo in that way
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we can see is a due to their
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believe the things got better
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or is it actually due
to something beneficial
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in the product. Okay.
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And in that case the American
Journal Cardiology reported
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that red yeast rice extract
was indeed very beneficial.
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Again as compare to placebo.
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But we haven't
really done placebo studies
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as far as sports
enhancement is concerned.
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So this is like
whether not sports,
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sports enhance your
physical well being.
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Well, you know this
is like taking products
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for sports
enhancement you know. Okay.
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For instance the weight lifters
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have a tendency
to wanna steroids
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or... Okay, absolutely.
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They want to
take growth hormones.
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In fact, this
study that you're seeing
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the graphic upon the screen
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shows the Athletic
Boost from Growth Hormones
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actually is not due
to the growth hormone.
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It's mental. It's
mental, in other words
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it's to belief that the
growth hormone is going,
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is going to help that
actually built those muscles up
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to a stronger component.
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And they did the
study that showed this.
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Yes, they did a study
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by injecting either growth
hormone into the individual
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or growth or actually a placebo
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where the individual thought
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they were
getting growth hormone.
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And then they
compared the two groups
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and what they found out
is everyone in the study
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whether they
were in a placebo arm
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or the growth hormone arm
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improved about
one to two percent
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as far as muscle
performances concerned
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and Athletic performance,
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but if you are in
the placebo group,
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in other words,
you wrongly thought
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that you had
received growth hormone
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your performance enhancement
was twice that 3 to 5%
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and the
phenomena was far greater
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in men than in women
often we say that women
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are more pronto placebo effect
and the mental belief aspect
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but as far as
athletic performances concerned
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men are actually
more pronto to it.
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So what do you make
of these kind of studies
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because what you're
basically saying is,
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you know, these
things are really help you
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that's what you're saying,
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but what do you replace it
if they thank it's helping them
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and it's not the
thinking that was helping them
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is what health plan
and if you take that away
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then they're not gonna get help
this much, so what do you do?
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Well, I think the
point of the study is
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that the mind plays
amazing tricks on the body.
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And the placebo effect
has been known for centuries,
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but it also you know,
that the take home message
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and that says just
because someone makes a claim
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that a product helped
them doesn't necessarily mean
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that their product
really helped them.
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And last they
really enrolled in a study
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and that's the
importance of scientific studies
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where we can
involve groups of people
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and actually do comparison
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and it turns
out for those of you
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that are in sport
don't take growth hormone
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actually just belief that
what you're doing is helping
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and you'll do
better than growth hormone.
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So that's it, that's the answer
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just belief on the
basis of what you've said
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and instead taking the stuff
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that really could
be quite damaging.
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Correct. Okay. Correct.
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All right, well
let's go to the next one
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I think it's fascinating as well
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and it had to do
with the relationship
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between
exercises increase protein,
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what was this study about?
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Well, it show
that exercise increases
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in important
protein called BDNF.
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And in fact, that
right there on the screen
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that you can see
Exercise Increases that Protein
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and the importance of BDNF
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actually is not only
that it helps the brain
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in fact, the term for BDNF
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is Brain-derived
neurotrophic factor.
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Brain-derived
neurotrophic factor,
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which means I can understand
the brain and it's derived
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from a... from a
neurotrophic factor.
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Well, neurotrophic means
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it actually supplies
the neurons with nutrition.
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That they need. Exactly,
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it's a factor that helps
the neurons to work better.
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So in other words,
if you exercise the B
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this particular BDNF goes up
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and lessens the
appetite. That's right.
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And so lot of people
think well exercise is only
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you know taking away
maybe if you for instance,
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if you do brisk
walking for an hour a day
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which is quite a
bit of brisk walking
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you've only lost about
500 calories by doing that.
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And so people
say, well you know,
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exercise may not be all
that important in weight loss
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it's a whole lot easier
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to not eat those two
slices of American cheese
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that are worth to 500 calories
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then they go out
and walk for an hour
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and so the secret is to really
cut down on what you're eating,
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but this shows that when
we do exercise in proper ways
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we actually secrete a chemical
that helps us not to over-eat.
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Interesting,
can we just get that
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chemical without
having to exercise,
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can we get it off the
shelf just like everything else?
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Well, not necessarily
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exercise is a
good way of doing it,
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but also weight loss in
and of itself can do this
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you know intermittent fasting,
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okay, can increase BDNF.
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But there is no way to
get this particular hormone.
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No there is,
it's not in the bottle
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it's not in a supplement.
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Yeah, that's only
made by the brain. Okay.
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And so at this point in
time we haven't found out,
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in fact it's really
hard to get proteins
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like that into the brain
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even if you word a
consumer in a bottle
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because it won't cross
the blood brain barrier,
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these proteins have to
be made inside the brain.
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I see. And never
any affected, okay.
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So this study if I
want to read more about it,
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where do we get
the studies from?
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Well, this particular study
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was done by Dr. Henry Anhalt
of the Animas Corporation.
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He is from West
Chester, Pennsylvania.
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And actually wasn't publish
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it was presented at
the Endocrine Society's
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2008 meeting in San Francisco
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it probably well
republished forth coming.
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fascinating, so
get out their exercise
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secrete the
hormone you need. Yes.
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And this will not only
help you loose those calories,
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but keep helping you not be
you know given to over eating.
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That's right, exactly.
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Physical exercise and
recovery of cancer patients.
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Yes, a lot of people just have
this assumption that you know,
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I'm diagnosed with
this deadly cancer.
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And I just need
to take life easy
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you know I shouldn't be
stressed, exercise is stressful
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and you know I just need
to get the treatment radiation
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like chemo whatever treatment
I'm and kind of take life easy.
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It turns out those individuals
don't do near as well
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as those who actually start
a physical training program
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even in the midst of
their chemo and radiation
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they start a
physical training program
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as part of what we
called Cancer Rehabilitation.
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So even though you're
down you have those treatments
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or whatever you're
going through get out there
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and still exercise regardless
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of how you feel
it's gonna help you.
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These people showed
significant improvements
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in physical function.
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These physical improvements
lasted for even three months
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after the training
program was over with compared
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with those at
least three months,
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they only did the study
three months afterwards.
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And they also found out that
they did better emotionally,
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they did better physically
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and exercise is a
very important component
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actually pushing it
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and even getting
involved in group activities
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social types of
exercise seem to benefit
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these cancer patient as well not
just the individual exercise.
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And that study is from where if
we want to read more about it.
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That study was published
in Psychosomatic Medicine
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in May of 2008.
Fascinating okay,
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one last study before
we finish today's program
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and that is too much
sleep increases stroke risk.
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Too much sleep,
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yeah a lot of times we
talked about too little sleep.
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But this study show that
regularly getting nine hours
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or more of sleep per night
increases the risk of stroke
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in postmenopausal women.
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So now it was after the change.
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After the change.
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It's okay to sleep a
lot before the change.
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Well, now studies have
actually shown in other ways
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too much sleep is harmful
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can actually lead to
depression for instance.
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But only 5% of
women age is 50 to 79
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are getting too much sleep.
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And so it's not a large
group but the study showed
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that they had a 60 to
70% higher risk of stroke
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that significant. That's huge.
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Even those who
get too little sleep
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only have a 14%
increase risk of stroke.
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So we know too
little sleep is bad,
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but that increases the
risk of stroke slightly
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if you get too much sleep
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it increases the risk of
stroke pretty dramatically.
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Tell us with that studies from
then I have a question for you.
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Well, the study
was actually presented
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by Sylvia Webster high, smaller
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of Albert Einstein
College of Medicine in New York
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and it was presented
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at the American Heart
Association journal Stroke
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in this would
have been July of 2008.
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So what's too little
sleep, what's too much sleep,
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how many hours is the
right amount of sleep?
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Too much is greater than nine,
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too little is
greater than six. Great.
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I'm sorry less than six.
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Yeah, less than
six greater than nine
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and most people
need about seven to eight
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that seems the eight hours
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point seems to be pretty
idea for most individuals.
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And to get that
readjusted if you're off,
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what's the best way
to get a readjusted?
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Light therapy
actually, believe it or not
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and if you get light
therapy in the morning
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it set your body clock
you're tired in the evening
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and you're able to
go to sleep much better.
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So open up those drapes
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and turn to those bed lights
on and then reset your clock.
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In the morning, that's right.
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And then even a mid-afternoon
exposure can be helpful.
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Well, Dr. Nedley you've updated
to some a lot of different areas
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and then very useful
information no matter
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you know, if you're
someone was taking maybe
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growth hormone to get
stronger or anything else.
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We're glad that
you've been with us today,
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thanks for being with us.
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Thank you very much, Don.
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And thank you for
being with us today,
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we hope that you know,
you'll take these things
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to heart anything
from red yeast extract,
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a very positive substance
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or and any of these other just
great tips you've heard today
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and as a result of this program
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you have health at last not just
for now, but for a lifetime.
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