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Hello and welcome to
Health for A Life Time.
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I'm your host Don Mackintosh.
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And today we're joined in
the studio with Dr. Hans Diehl.
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Welcome Dr. Diehl.
Glad to be here, Don.
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We're gonna be
talking today about obesity
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it is no point intend
or rather weighty issue,
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and it's a large
problem in America,
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it's increasing, especially
over the last ten years.
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And you run what are called
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Coronary Health
Improvement Project,
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coronary of course has to do
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with the coronary
arteries of the heart.
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But the heart is connected
in terms of the vessels
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to everything else
and obesity directly
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effects the heart, doesn't it?
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Yes, it does. So, tell
us what's the magnitude
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here of this problem
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and what kind
things does it cause?
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Yeah. You know Don,
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obesity one of the
most sensitive subjects
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we could talk about.
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There's so much of
misinformation out there.
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And the issues are so complex,
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they are physiological aspects,
they are sociological aspects,
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they are marketing aspects,
they are dietary aspects,
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they are genetic aspects
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and how can we
cover this subject today.
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Let me perhaps just
make a couple of comments,
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one is the problem has
become much larger in the last
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ten, twenty years like you said,
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just to give you some idea.
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Here you see a graphic
that shows what happened
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to the average
American standard seat.
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The American seating company
in 1900 used to be built,
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they use to built seats,
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the average chair
size of 16.5 inches,
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16.5. 16.5 inches
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then as they pretty much
around 17 inches in 1930s.
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In 1970s it was
still under 18 inches,
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and then
suddenly the last 20 years
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it jump to 23 plus
inches just to accommodate
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the American enlarging derriere.
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So that's almost two feet?
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Yeah, we have to add six inches
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especially in last 20,
30 years to accommodate
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the American enlarging seat.
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Now on the plane over here,
the airline I am flying on...
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they said that they
have an extra charge
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for people of size.
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So they are charging more
because the fuel is going up
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and just to say today I
said that the cost of fuel
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for some of these airlines
because they are carrying
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such heavy
passengers, they're charging
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for one, two,
three seats sometimes
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and the fuel costs are
going up by the billions.
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Yeah, it is the classic
example of the consequences
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of being overweight, right?
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We are super-sizing
everything today from shirts
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to trousers to gurneys
to coffins, no longer fit.
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And the question is why is this
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it cannot be a genetic problem,
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because it takes
about three hundred
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to four hundred years to change
the genetics in whole society.
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So it must be an
environmental problem.
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What could be the
problems, but you know before
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we do anything
else I think it is very,
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very important that
we have great compassion
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towards those
people who are suffering
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and are affected by
this kind of problem.
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And I thought the
best way to set the tone
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for our meeting today
will be by doing a role in,
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is that all right to you?
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Yeah, this is an interview
you were doing with someone
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at one of your chip programs.
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That's correct. Well,
lets take a look at it.
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Now, lets perhaps
dig a little bit deeper.
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Why are there are some
other physiological reasons
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that we can perhaps think of?
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Why people tend to find
comfort and solace in food?
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They feel like
they're not worth anything.
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Oh, I see. Oh.
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People make fun of them.
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They have no friends. Really?
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They just don't
care, so they eat.
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I see. Looking at you,
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is that sort of a
personal experience?
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Do you want to
share that with us
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to help us understand
that maybe a little bit more?
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I was always heavy.
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I was always the
biggest kid in class.
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I think I weighed a 150
pounds when I was in 6th grade.
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Kids always picked
on me, made fun of me.
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I never had
friends. I hated school.
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I hated kids and their parents
for letting them pick on me.
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Making fun. If any
of these people here
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have grand kids or
kids that pick on kids,
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they ought to straighten them
out and straighten them fast
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It is not fun. And
it hurts, doesn't it?
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It hurts. Kids
are impressionable.
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And then somehow it doesn't help
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with the weight
problem does it? What happened?
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I just wanted to
get out of school.
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I didn't try. I
just wanted to get out.
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It was too painful.
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There was nothing there for me.
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I just hated it.
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What happened after
you got out of school?
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Did that solve the problem?
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No, I was still heavy.
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And I wish to God that
CHIP had been there in 1980
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because in 1982, I
had my stomach stapled.
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But if CHIP
would have been there,
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I know that I
could have done CHIP
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and not have gone through that.
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Did that solve the
problem, the stomach stapling?
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I lost the weight
but I can't eat right.
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So you're kind of miserable?
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Most of the time, yeah.
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I pray over my
food so I can eat it.
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But I was 336 pounds and
now I am down to 176 today.
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But if CHIP
would have been there,
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I would have done
CHIP instead of that.
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That is wonderful, isn't it?
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But you can see
that when it comes
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to obesity and overweight,
sometimes the reasons
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can be very diverse
and sometimes the roots go
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very, very deep, isn't it?
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We internalize these things.
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The most important thing.
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The most important
concept to keep in mind is,
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that when it comes
to obesity, to weight,
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we need to extend loving concern
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and understanding to people.
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But how easy it is for
some of us that are slender
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to poke our skinny
fingers at other people
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and we have this judgmental
attitude that is being picked up
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as if it was a radar screen
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by the other
person, isn't that right?
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Some people think
that overweight people
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have no will power
and all those people say
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that it has
nothing to do with it.
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We have all kinds of
cliches in our society,
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but I think the
most important concept
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to get across to an idea is that
we need to be loving people.
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People are worthwhile,
regardless of how many layers
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of fat are covering them.
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This lady at 330
pounds is just as valuable
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as when she now is 176.
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And that's a
great accomplishment
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and we're very proud of you.
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Oh, man, that was
quite an emotional exchange
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and I can see the others in
the audience getting involved
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as they listen to the
pain that lady went through.
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It's already bad
enough to be overweight
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or struggle with that, but
then they have people tease you
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and point that out
and you know that was
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how you were able to
handle that in that setting,
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I could tell was
bringing healing to the lady,
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psychologically speaking.
But also the others could
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emphasize with the
lady and you know it just
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underlines what you
have said at beginning,
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that this is a
sensitive subject,
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we can assume that
people, you know, people
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probably been
teased about their way.
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Americans now as a
nation are being teased
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about their weight by
other people around the world.
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But we have to go
behind teasing to truths
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that can help us transform
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and I think that's
what CHIP is about.
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The CHIP program
that you run there
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and many people are
running around the nation.
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But what can we talk about
here today that can help us
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get a handle on
how to reverse this.
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You know when I
talk to obese audiences
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when I talk to women and men
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there are
struggling with overweight.
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My first comment
usually is I wanted to show you
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that you are not
responsible for your overweight.
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And they will look
at me, there is a trap
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I know he is setting
as up and he said no,
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not really because at least
impart you are not responsible
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because we live in a society
that is making us schizophrenic.
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On one hand we see the
beautiful slender people
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on the front covers of magazines
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you will open it up on
the inside you will see
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recipes for romantic moments
in coronaries and getting fat.
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I mean we're
basically surrounding people
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everywhere with fatty foods,
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I mean you go to
hospital fatty food,
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you go to a
restaurants fatty food,
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you go to your
home it's fatty food.
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I mean, I am surprised
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that we are not more
obese then we are already.
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So, I think that
the contra has to assume
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some responsibility
in that we're very,
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very seductive to
people and baiting them,
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it's the way we do
things with fattening foods.
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So, what we want
to do today perhaps,
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take a slim view of a few
ideas so that might be helpful
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to you and the
basic idea here is,
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begin to eat more
food at the right kind
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if you want to lose weight.
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Okay, more food
of the right kind
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instead of saying less food,
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the way you're saying
that is kind of intriguing.
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Eat more food of the right kind.
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But we have
always said to people
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if you want to lose weight,
push away from the table,
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that's the most
important exercise, right?
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Push away table.
People love food,
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begins to show after a while.
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What we're saying
is just the opposite,
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if you want to lose weight,
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if you want to
weigh less, eat more.
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Are you interested?
I am very interested,
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eat more of the right foods.
Eat more of the right foods.
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And so to begin our discussion,
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I think we have to first
recognize as you see here
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that there is an
energy balance and that says
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if you have more
calories coming in,
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then going out,
these extra calories
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will be deposited
using in the central bank
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right here, right? Right?
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Right in the middle.
Isn't it the central bank?
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and you know as
more and more close
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come in and fewer go out.
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The central bank
become sort of saturated,
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overflows and you have
branch offices being setup
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all over the body,
and then you become
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very, very subconscious.
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And you know you feel
like everybody is staring
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at you and you feel I
got to do something about it.
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And the first thing
you do is you follow
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the siren call of
the merchants of misery.
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In seven days you
lose seven pounds,
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in three weeks
you're gonna be ready
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for the high school
view when you get again.
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And we far for this lions
that promise quick results,
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it's a quick fix trap
and this is long term promise
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so we have to be
looking for long term solutions.
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And my
recommendation is if you want
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to lose weight
let all diets die.
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So, don't look for a
magic pill or a diet,
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but look for a lifestyle.
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Pills, portions,
surgeries, diets all these
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kind of things are second,
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if not to a share
should not even be used.
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We are talking
with Dr. Hans Diehl,
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we are talking about obesity,
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it is a problem
that is effecting
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millions of
Americans and also the world.
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When we come back
we're gonna be looking
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at solutions and I
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Welcome back, we're
talking with Dr. Hans Diehl.
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We are talking about obesity
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and we in the
first half recognized
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the magnitude of the
problem and also the fact
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that it is emotionally laden.
Some of the things we talk about
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today you may want to
have more information about
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and you can get this program
of course by calling 3ABN.
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But you can go to Dr.
Diehl's website chiphealth,
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chiphealth.com and there is
all kinds of resources there.
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And thank you for
making that web page,
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I've visited it a number
of times has a lot of links
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it has a lot of
scientific evidence.
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And in fact the CHIP
program I am delighted
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to see that it has so
much scientific validation,
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some five, six published papers
and other research underway.
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So the reason for
that is because its working
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and now other
researchers are getting
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on the bandwagon and saying,
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well, lets look at this.
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And that leads me
into my question here,
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we saw the
magnitude and also the emotion
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that is connected
with this problem.
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But you started out by sharing
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the number one simple solution
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which is to eat
more of the right foods,
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and this is
different then we normally
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or usually say
push away from table.
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Give us some more insight,
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you kind of tickled
our taste buds so to speak.
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Well, I think
there are six guidelines
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I would like to
share with you today.
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The first one is, and you see
it here reduce empty calories.
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We are
particularly looking at calories
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that have no
nutritional values such as sugar
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and then you have
fats and you have alcohol.
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These are the three, a soda pop.
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Soda pop, I mean,
when you think about this
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the average
family of four consumes
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fifty six cans of soda
pops in America per week.
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Fifty six a week. I
mean, that's a lot of sugar
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as a matter of fact...
That's like 10 six packs almost.
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The number one,
yeah, the number one
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cause of sugar consumption.
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The number one
contribute of sugar consumption
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is actually soft drinks.
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So we need to
really do something
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about this less of
this and more water.
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When you say less,
do you mean none of it?
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Well, I mean
cutting back on something
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is gonna be
very, very important.
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So number one,
reduce empty calories
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in terms of
sugar as such as sugar
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and some of the other
things that I want to show you,
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if we can take look at that.
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We want to show you
how the sugar consumption
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has gonna up of
the last hundred years
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or so we use to take in
about twenty teaspoon of sugar,
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now we are consuming
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forty teaspoon
sugar per person per day.
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And that's largely
related to the soft drinks,
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are your soft drinks
but there are some other
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things too as I'll
show you right now.
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Take a look at
the doughnut there,
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see that's what you
want to do from now on.
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You all was want to
zero in on the doughnut hole,
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from the doughnut
hole, If you eat that
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and then people
tell me no, no, no, no...
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they are selling now
those doughnut holes as well,
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so you have to be
careful there too.
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Then you have also have
cakes as you see in the last.
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The next line, six,
what is that six what of?
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Six teaspoons of
sugar. Six teaspoons
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and I think the cake
has fifteen it shows here.
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Yeah, and then the next
one look at that banana split.
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Yeah, you have
twenty five teaspoons,
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it gives you some joy,
but it doesn't last, does it?
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The kicker comes the next day,
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you step on the scale,
you try to put your pants on,
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and you try to put your
blouse on, all of a sudden
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you realize maybe I
shouldn't have done that.
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So that brings
then to the second
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part of the first guideline
and that is to eat less fats
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and oil as you see here.
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And where do we
find all of the oil.
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Well, it's usually in refined
foods, I mean, think about this
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you could have
one tube of Pringles
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or you could eat nine potatoes.
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Okay and the Pringles
have all kinds of fats and oils
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added to the potato.
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It's the same
number of calories,
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you have one tube of Pringles,
you have a thousand calories
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and are you gonna be filled
up after one tube of Pringles?
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Probably not. probably not.
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So you got to deep it
in sour cream or something.
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People usually do
to fill themselves up.
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Even, you could have,
nine, nine medium size potatoes
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could have eaten those in
one session it's impossible.
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So eat more food has it comes
in nature you much, much safer.
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So that's back to your concept,
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when you say eat more
you mean more foods as grown
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and so you're so
full that you can eat
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the other, that's correct.
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That's correct.
Okay, so you get so full,
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you can't have anymore.
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Correct. Now you
come to the next graphic
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Okay. And here you see
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what happens to us
when it comes to...
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There are some potatoes we have.
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That's right,
those nine potatoes
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to that one tube
of Pringles, right?
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Okay. Or the crinkly back.
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Now the next slides
shows you the empty calories,
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take a look at this.
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Twenty one percent of our
calories comes from sugar,
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another twenty percent
comes from fats and oils
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and then you have
alcohol 10 percent.
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So, half of all the
calories that we eat done,
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half of all the
calories in our society
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has non nutritional
value, so that we are
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overfed and
undernourished. Okay.
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That's what we
have to do we have to do
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something about empty calories,
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few of all these refined
engineered seductive foods,
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crinkly bags for instance. Okay.
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So cut off the soda pop
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or minimize it
greatly. Minimize it.
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And the way to do
that is to replace it
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with a strongest
strength known to man,
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the water, right? What else?
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that can sink battleships,
and if you put that in your body
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you don't have
room for the other
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and then also foods is
grown rather than process foods.
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Yeah, few are
crinkly diet foods, right?
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Okay, few are the
candy bars, the snacks,
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as a matter of fact
the bigger the snacks
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the larger the slacks,
that happens every time
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because these are
concentrated calories
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a lot of with fat and
sugar and no nutritional value.
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Okay, what's our next?
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Well, let's take
look at the next graphic.
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All right. It gives us some clue
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of what we need to talk about.
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Well, so we want to reduce
empty calories, number one,
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right? Okay.
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number two, we want to be also
be careful with animal products,
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why animal products?
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Animal products are kind of
the animal processing things
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I mean, the others are
commercialized process food
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for the animal processes,
processes things as well.
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I mean we have made that
definitely a process food.
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Well, yes. That's the
animal has done that, right?
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Right. Well, you know we often
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and so on realize it that
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when you have
that sour on stake,
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that's actually 70% fat.
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Okay, we always
thing about protein food,
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but it's really a high fat food.
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So, your hamburger,
your ham, your corned beef
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all those kind of
things are processed food.
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Yeah, they are
process foods in that sense
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and they are fairly high in
fat and its usually animal fat,
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which is not in our
best interest anyway,
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plus we have the
cholesterol to worry about.
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Then, but you also
come to process sausages.
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Sausages. They're hot dog.
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Okay. and hot
dog is about 80% fat.
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Eighty percent fat in a hot dog.
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Well, that's what makes
it so juicy and so good.
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What about French fries?
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Well, there again you see,
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you're much, much
better off eating more
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of the real potatoes
instead of the French fries,
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because you basically
have a 60% fat product.
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I guess that's a
not an animal product.
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We are talking
about animal products.
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Yeah, that's right.
What about cottage cheese?
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Well, you know I use
the low fat cottage cheese,
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if for instance
you have the cheeses.
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Okay. The cheese has no fiber,
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it is small volume, but
full and large calorie load,
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this cheese is
about 60, 70% fat.
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Again, if you wanna lose weight
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you have to be a
little bit careful there.
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So avoid these animal products?
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Yeah, because most
of them are fully high
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in fat in calories, right.
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So, if it has a
mother or a face,
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probably you
don't want to eat it?
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That's probably
true, that's right.
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So, now we have these three
principles, less refined foods.
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Okay. Number two,
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reduce animal products and
then eat more foods-as-grown
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More foods-as-grown, like?
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Well, I want to
give you some examples,
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you'll be absolutely amazed.
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You know this will
fig newtons squares.
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Love them. Yeah.
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I mean one little
one, about 60 calories.
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Yeah, oh, that's not
good. No, that's okay.
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Oh, they are so small
like package, not too bad.
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It's a nice little
treat once in while, right?
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But you know that's a
processed food, isn't it?
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Got to watch out for
it, it's a processed food.
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Now just you give me
some example that 60 calories.
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If you wanted to
eat a cantaloupe.
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Yeah. You would have to eat
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a whole cantaloupe
to get 60 calories,
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a whole cantaloupe same as one
little square of a fig Newton.
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I get the point, so you can
eat much higher volume for less
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calories and I see that
you are, you know, making sure
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I know that, I am
gonna take it hard.
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But you see
because most food-as-grown,
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like fruits and
vegetables and grains.
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I am talking
about unrefined grains.
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I am not talking
about fruit loops
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or you know some of these
commercial prepared cereals.
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When you eat
unrefined grain cereal products
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or when you look at some
of the legumes, the beans
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they are very,
very low in calories.
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So you can eat lot
of them, it fills you up
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and then you don't
have the temptations.
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That's exactly right.
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So that's what we would
like people to eat more grains
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eat more vegetables, eat more
fruits and eat more legumes.
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All right. What's your next tip?
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Well, I want to give
you another tip here,
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I was at a medical
convention two months ago
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and you know
there is a social hour
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and people just move around
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and they abide
themselves a little bit of.
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Alcohol? Can you
imagine a small jigger,
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plus a half a cup of nuts
people thing nothing of it,
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but right there you
have same number of calories
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it's about 750
calories that you could had
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in five pounds of fresh
fruits and two roast boot.
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Wow! I mean I'm not
trying to say everybody
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has to eat five
pounds of fruits,
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but the point is you
have a small concentrated
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calorie sources like
alcohol and some nuts,
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I mean you compare to real
food as it comes in nature.
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Also you can eat large volumes
you can feed yourself up.
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And you even recommend
having any of that anyway...
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Now, it's true. True
maybe if have nuts, but...
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No. Okay, so again
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fruits as grown is the key,
eat more of those you get full
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and then you don't
have these temptations.
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And then be little
careful with the snacks,
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you know snacks
foods are usually
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not carrots or
celery sticks, Okay.
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so we have to very, very
careful with those snacks.
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Okay. These
snacks are calorie dense.
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The last point
that I want to make is,
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is that we probably should
increase our daily walking,
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Right? And perhaps,
tie into professional,
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emotional, social,
and spiritual resources.
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Okay, so number four was
increase activity walking.
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Yeah. Those types of things.
00:26:01.72\00:26:03.11
Half an hour a day. At least.
00:26:03.12\00:26:04.78
And then tying
into these resources.
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You know sometimes
you need to have more
00:26:07.36\00:26:08.96
then just doing the
right thing on your own,
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sometimes you need
to have a counselor,
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you talk to pastor, you
need to talk to psychologist.
00:26:12.56\00:26:15.52
Sometimes good to
have some support group
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oh, I like in CHIP program.
00:26:17.74\00:26:18.71
We've a group that
is working with you.
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Okay. And you mentioned
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that last thing as spiritual,
but really that probably
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should be the first
thing, don't you think?
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Well, if people
are comfort with that,
00:26:30.50\00:26:32.57
not everybody is
comfort for digging
00:26:32.58\00:26:34.08
into the spiritual resources.
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It's the most powerful,
it's the most life changing
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and empowering
relation we can find,
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and I like to even introduce
that to people to pursue that.
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And in the CHIP
program of course, you know,
00:26:48.94\00:26:50.74
you start with
science, which is God's second
00:26:50.75\00:26:53.03
book documenting that
all these scientific things
00:26:53.04\00:26:55.91
that is really spiritual
when you think about it,
00:26:56.28\00:26:58.76
because it really
is God's principles.
00:26:58.77\00:27:00.75
They are packaged
in scientific research.
00:27:01.18\00:27:03.33
But when people come to
have that personal relationship
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with others and that CHIP
environment they ultimately
00:27:06.77\00:27:10.21
are being introduced
to spiritual concepts.
00:27:10.22\00:27:12.53
You know, Don, for those
people who are comfortable
00:27:13.04\00:27:16.16
in folding their hands again,
00:27:16.17\00:27:17.89
there's nothing more powerful
then bringing the ultimate power
00:27:18.59\00:27:22.89
in the universe to
come to bare on a problem
00:27:22.90\00:27:26.19
that is very
large and very different
00:27:26.20\00:27:28.10
to come out on your own.
00:27:28.11\00:27:29.55
Dr. Diehl, thank you so
much for being with us today,
00:27:30.15\00:27:32.67
sharing these principles
which are powerful principles
00:27:32.68\00:27:36.01
and thank you for
being with us today.
00:27:36.02\00:27:37.84
If have more questions and
you like to understand more
00:27:38.22\00:27:41.26
of Dr. Diehl's Coronary
Health Improvement program,
00:27:41.27\00:27:44.97
the CHIP program,
go to chiphealth.com
00:27:44.98\00:27:47.85
We're glad you joined us today
and we hope that as a result
00:27:48.20\00:27:50.79
of putting these
principles into practice
00:27:50.80\00:27:52.57
you have health that
lasts for a lifetime.
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