Hello, and welcome to
Health For A Lifetime.
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I'm your host, Don Mackintosh,
and we're going to talk about
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hypertension today:
high blood pressure.
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Talking with us about
this important subject
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is Dr. Hans Diehl.
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Welcome, Dr. Diehl.
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It's good to be here Don.
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We're glad you made the trip
all the way from Loma Linda.
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You are an author.
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You are a researcher.
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And you really have
helped a lot of people.
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I want to thank you for that.
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You are the originator of
the Coronary Health Improvement
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Project, or the CHIP program.
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You have a web
page chiphealth. com.
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Hypertension is one of those
things in the CHIP program that
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you help people with.
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Talk with us about hypertension.
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How large a problem is it?
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You know, Don,
it's a large problem.
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We estimate that every third
American adult is suffering
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from hypertension or
high blood pressure problems,
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every third American adult.
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That's 60 million
people, as you see on the
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next graphic here.
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60 million people are
suffering from blood pressures
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that are above 130 for the upper
number, and above 85 for the
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lower number.
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That means that 20 million
of these people are taking
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medications right now.
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And yet there is very good
research, that makes it very
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clear, that probably 60 to 80%
of these patients on medication
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could be off these medications,
because they could probably
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reduce their blood pressure to
normal, if they made just some
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simple lifestyle changes, and
they would have results within
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1 to 2 months: 4 to 8 weeks.
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So these are the people,130
over 90 you said, 130 over 80?
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Yeah, about 130 over 85.
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Isn't there a borderline
area that's also dangerous?
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120 to 130 is getting dangerous.
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So there's probably even
more if you include that.
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And these could be
drastically changed.
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These numbers could be very much
reduced just by simple things,
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which I know in the
CHIP program you probably
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share those, but help us today.
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What can we do
about high blood pressure?
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First of all, what
are the problems with it?
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I mean, you know, to have
good water pressure I say,
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"Hey, that's great!"
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I've got good pressure.
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I've got good
pressure in my tires on my car.
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You know as I'm going down
the road these are good things.
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What's the big deal about having
a little high blood pressure?
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Well, when it comes to the human
body, too much pressure is not
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very wise because it
drives some of the plaques.
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It drives some of the
atherosclerotic processes.
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It drives some of the
likelihood of heart disease
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and stroke dramatically.
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As a matter of fact, high blood
pressure is the number one risk
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factor for strokes in Americans.
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So you want to really keep that
blood pressure below the 130,
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below the 85, because if you
go up to 140 over 90, let's say,
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right there you have a 30%
higher chance of a heart attack,
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and a stroke, than if you kept
it at the more ideal numbers.
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Now is this high blood pressure
afflicting youth and young
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people as well as adults?
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Well, it usually builds up.
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Yes, it can afflict young
people, and it's usually found
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more in people in
their 40's, 50's, and up.
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As a matter of fact, by the time
you are 50 years of age in our
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society, you have about a
50% likelihood that you have
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high blood pressure.
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When you are 70 years of age
you have an 80% chance of having
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high blood pressure.
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Yet in many societies around
the world, as people get older,
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blood pressures
actually come down.
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They don't go up.
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This is an American phenomena.
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This is a western
disease that has to do with...
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It's not a genetic thing
as much as it seems to be
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an environment.
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It has to do with our lifestyle.
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Okay.
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The reason I asked about
the youth was because we have a
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skyrocketing problem with
obesity among youth in America.
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Someone told me that for every
pound that's added to the human
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body that's 200 extra miles
of blood vessels, and I'm sure
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that increases the pressure.
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It does.
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So what I wanted to say, and
ask that question, is because we
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probably need to worry
about this when we are young
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even though it might not show
up until we're a little older.
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That's very true.
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You lay the foundation of
your habits when you are young.
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So, what can we do?
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We want to avoid the
hypertension because we want to
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avoid the strokes.
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We want to avoid all the
problems that happen from
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that pressure going up.
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You know there are probably
two major kinds of hypertension.
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One is called
essential hypertension,
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and one is called secondary 2.
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Okay.
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Now when you have secondary
2, that's a fairly rare form of
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hypertension, probably 5 or 10%
of all our hypertension cases.
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That may be due to some kind of
cancer, or some kind of a kidney
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problem, but 90% is
related to lifestyle factors.
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They're called
essential hypertension.
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Then you have
essential high blood pressure.
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We don't know the exact cause,
but there are 6 to 7 factors
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that contribute for
this disease to develop.
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One of the most prominent
ones is the amount of salt,
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sodium intake, salt in our diet.
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Okay, most of us know that.
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We've heard that before,
so what are we talking about?
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Do I have to get
rid of the salt shaker?
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Well, let's go back and
take a historical look at this.
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Here you see a very interesting
graphic that looks at
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pre-shakers and post-shakers.
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Now you tell me
what a pre-shaker is.
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One that shakes before the
meal before they even taste it.
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That's right!
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Do you know people like this?
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I'm actually a pre-shaker.
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Sometimes my wife gets on
my case with a big huge...
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Well, no she's not like that.
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She gently says,
"Don't do it again. "
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You know, people reach out
for the salt shaker without even
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having tasted the food.
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Uh hum.
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These are pre-shakers.
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When you look at people that are
pre-shakers versus post-shakers,
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,
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they found that those who
were the pre-shakers had six
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times more high blood pressure.
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Those who were pre-shakers,
when compared to no shakers,
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had ten times more.
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So this gave us a clue that
maybe salt, or sodium, could be
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involved with high
blood pressure problems.
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Okay, well,
that's a rebuke to me.
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I appreciate that,
hearing in public on the show.
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I will give up the
habit of pre-shaking.
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I think your wife will
be very grateful to me.
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She doesn't watch 3ABN at this
point because we're involved
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in a move, so
maybe she won't see this.
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I will send her a special copy.
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Okay, so now the
cat's out of the bag!
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So pre-shaking should be given
up for post-shaking, but better
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yet, no shaking.
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Okay.
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You know, there was a
time when we thought that high
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blood pressure was
strictly a cultural disease.
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So researchers went to these
very peaceful Pacific Islands
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and they wanted to
check out the blood pressure
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They came into the
hinterland and they measured the
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blood pressures.
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They were very, very low.
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So, you see?
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If you live a very calm life,
a relaxed life, no urban stress
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and pressures, your blood
pressure comes down, right?
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Then they checked the people
living close to the beach area.
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Okay.
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Right?
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Alright.
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And low and behold they found
that these people on these very
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calm, lovely,
peaceful islands had very high
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blood pressure levels.
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They had hypertension not
dissimilar to what we have here
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in North America.
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Why was this?
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Well, what do you think?
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I have no idea.
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Maybe they thought
there was a flood coming.
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Too many ships coming in?
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No, no!
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What happened is that they were
actually cooking at the beach
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using salt water.
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Ohhhh!
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Those in hinterland:
artesian well, regular water.
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So this became really a turning
point in better understanding
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that high blood pressure may be
directly related to the amount
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of sodium in the diet.
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Okay, so I get the message: no
shaking, and no frying my food
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in the salt water.
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Right.
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Or cooking it in salt water.
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That's right.
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So along came a
young Ph. D. student
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at the University of Michigan,
and she had some of the
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right ideas.
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She said, you know, I should
really find a research project
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where I could travel the world
on a grant, and get my Ph. D.
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at the same time.
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Sounds somewhat
opportunistic, but that's good.
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Yeah, that's Dr. Gliberman.
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Outstanding work done.
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She looked at 27 populations
around the world, traveled,
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and then measured blood pressure
levels and the amount of
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salt in the diet.
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Hum.
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Here you see the results.
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Take a look.
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Okay.
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Here you see when she found a
society that was taking in about
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16 grams of salt.
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Which is about how much?
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That's about 3
teaspoons of salt a day.
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And then you go up.
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These are now 50
old males, 50 old men,
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and the diastolic law of the
blood pressure number there is
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94, the systolic
upper number is 158.
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You know, that is
clearly high blood pressure.
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You need to see a physician.
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You need to do
something about this.
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158 over 95,
that's very dangerous.
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Okay.
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50 years of age,
man, how much salt?
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16 grams.
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16 grams, 3 teaspoons.
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Then she began to map out all
these numbers, and she developed
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some regression lines.
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They were straight lines that
emerged, and here you see it
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on the next one.
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The lower the salt intake,
the lower the diastolic and
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systolic blood pressure.
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The higher the
salt, you see the results.
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On the left hand side
you see a developing country,
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with very little salt intake.
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On the right hand
side you see the 16 grams,
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that's the American,
western industrialized society.
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And so she began to say to
herself, "You know to measure
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the amount of salt in
the diet is not easy to do. "
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It takes a lot of work.
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She said, "I wonder what would
happen if I would just measure
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the blood pressure of these
populations, and I just make a
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prediction of how
much salt they're eating.
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So she would go on her chart
and begin to pick the amount of
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blood pressure
in the population.
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She could do that very easily.
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And then she predicted, ah
ha they must be on 4, 6, 8,
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10 grams of salt.
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And then she did the
confirmation with the more
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extensive tests...
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Bingo!
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...low and behold!
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She was hitting
it right on the nail.
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Yep.
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That's why she got her Ph. D.
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Well, there's a different
relationship between the amount
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of sodium in the diet,
and the amount of hypertension
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in the society.
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The relationship is
a very clear cut one.
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So probably one of the
simplest things we can do,
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if we have hypertension,
or high blood pressure...
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well first of all, I have
to find out if we do have it,
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which is go get it checked.
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There's lots of
places to get it checked.
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Probably, very practically
speaking, get it checked
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a few times, so you don't have
the white coat syndrome of going
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in to the doctor.
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Get it checked.
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Make sure you
know where you are.
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The second thing is
look at whether or not you're
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a pre-shaker.
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Once we've discovered, I am,
or I was, and move to being a
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post-shaker, or better yet, a
no-shaker, and then maybe move
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away from the beach, from
cooking your food in the salt.
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We're talking
with Dr. Hans Diehl.
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We're talking
about hypertension.
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A lot of the things
we're talking about today
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you can find on his
web site: chiphealth. com.
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When we come back what
are we going to talk about?
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We're going to look at
some ways to really get a
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handle on this?
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Well, we want to see,
where do we find the salt?
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If we cut back,
what do we cut back?
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And is it just the salt, or
are there some other factors
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that are also
playing a very major role?
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We're talking about high
blood pressure, hypertension.
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We've been talking with
Dr. Hans Diehl, and we've been
00:14:23.00\00:14:26.85
talking about some of the things
that kind of set people apart
00:14:26.88\00:14:30.54
with hypertension: if you salt
your food before you eat it,
00:14:30.57\00:14:34.50
versus after you eat it.
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If you're doing it before you're
probably going to be struggling
00:14:36.75\00:14:41.00
with hypertension.
00:14:41.03\00:14:42.00
And now that I confessed
my problem, and gave it up,
00:14:42.03\00:14:46.55
you can too.
00:14:46.58\00:14:47.62
We're going to look at some more
things that we can do as we look
00:14:47.65\00:14:50.64
at this important subject.
00:14:50.67\00:14:51.65
You know, there's a lot of
people out there watching that
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probably have hypertension.
00:14:53.53\00:14:54.82
That's no
joking matter for them.
00:14:54.85\00:14:56.56
No.
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They really have real
problems because of this,
00:14:57.57\00:14:59.63
and you're going to share some
practical things with us now
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coming up.
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Yeah.
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You know, one of the things that
we need to do, Don, is we need
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to begin to understand how
much salt we actually consume.
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If we have such a powerful
epidemic of hypertension
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in our society, we said
every third American adult,
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how much salt do
we actually take in?
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How much should we have?
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What is the
body's need for salt?
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Does the body need salt?
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I think so.
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I mean if you don't
have sodium you can act...
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When I was a nurse whenever
their sodium went down they
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started acting a little loony.
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Yeah, that's right.
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We need about 1/5 of a teaspoon
of salt a day for the body.
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Okay.
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1/5th of a teaspoon.
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Alright.
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Most of us take in
about 2 to 21/2 teaspoonfuls
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of salt a day.
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So we're probably taking 10 to
15 times more salt than the body
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really requires.
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So we're
probably taking too much.
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So 1/5th of a teaspoon.
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Yeah, I mean it's...
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It's hardly anything.
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I can get that
in a bag of popcorn.
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Oh, more than that.
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Yep, so what we want
to do is recommend to our
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viewing audience, instead of
taking the usual Western salt
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intake of about 2 teaspoons
or more, maybe you ought to get
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down to at least less
than 1 teaspoon a day.
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Okay.
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So we need to really cut
our salt consumption at least
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in half, maybe even less than
that, especially if you have
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high blood pressure.
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You have to be very,
very, very low on salt,
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which means that your food will
taste rather bland for awhile,
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but we have good news for you.
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Hum, what's the good news?
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Salsa?
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Thirty days...
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Put salsa on it.
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Ah, that's alright, but if you
endure it for 30 days your taste
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buds will adjust.
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Only 30 days?
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It just takes 30 days or less.
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Of course, you can use
some herbs to substitute,
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you know, the salsa
that you talked about.
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So there are ways to do that,
but we need to really face the
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idea that, yes, maybe the food
will taste flat, if you're used
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to the American, Western
salt intake, but in about
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2, 3, 4 weeks the
taste buds will adjust.
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So, have they
done studies on that?
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Oh yeah.
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And they know that it
takes about that long?
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You know, I worked in a
lifestyle center like this,
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where people would
come for four weeks.
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After two weeks the patients
would come to me and say,
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"Wow, we're so glad you
fired the chef and you got us
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a new chef," because they
thought the food is tasting
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better now, two
weeks into the program.
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It wasn't the chef.
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Same chef.
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I'm glad you
didn't fire the chef.
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No, we couldn't!
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It takes too much
time to train them.
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Right, okay great, so we
need to just, number one:
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not be shaking before, and then
looking at exactly how much salt
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we have in our diet,
and trying to get it down,
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and we're going to have a
little pain on that journey.
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Well, I think you saw it on the
graphic there, that pointed out
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what the optimal
amount of salt is.
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It should be less
than 5 grams to be sure.
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We also talked about the
body only needs 1 gram of salt
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a day, and that most of
us take about 10 to 15 grams
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of salt a day.
00:18:13.28\00:18:14.25
Okay, yeah, let's
look at that graphic again.
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The optimal
level of salt is what?
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What do we see here?
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It's about less than
1 gram of salt a day.
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So as we look at this
graphic then that's what
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this is describing.
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Yeah, you know, we only
need... the requirements are
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like 1 gram of salt a day.
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Okay.
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We're consuming 15 grams.
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That's 2 o 3 teaspoons of salt
a day, and probably we should
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have no more than 5 grams.
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That's the optimal salt intake.
00:18:45.92\00:18:49.68
If people have high blood sugar,
maybe they should be taking
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less than 5 grams of salt.
00:18:52.76\00:18:54.46
So where is the salt?
00:18:54.49\00:18:55.72
Where do we get it?
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Where is it coming from?
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I mean 15 grams
versus 5, I mean,
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Something has gone wrong!
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It's like people are
pouring salt into my mouth
00:19:01.53\00:19:04.64
while I'm asleep.
00:19:04.67\00:19:05.64
How do we get the salt?
00:19:05.68\00:19:06.71
Where is it coming from?
00:19:06.74\00:19:07.71
Well, you know, some people
think it's the salt shaker.
00:19:07.72\00:19:10.07
So I think that's a good start.
00:19:10.10\00:19:11.67
Ban the salt shaker.
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Especially pre-shakers.
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Yes, you are really
making me hurt on this.
00:19:16.21\00:19:20.16
Okay, take away the salt shaker.
00:19:20.19\00:19:22.22
But you're saying some
people think that, which means
00:19:22.25\00:19:26.14
you're going to tell
me something else here.
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Well, yes.
00:19:27.89\00:19:28.86
People think well if I just
take care of the salt shaker
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I'm going to be alright.
00:19:31.14\00:19:32.49
Not really.
00:19:32.52\00:19:33.49
Because the salt shaker
only adds about 20% of the salt
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that we take in, 80%
comes in processed foods.
00:19:39.49\00:19:43.49
Like tomato soup.
00:19:43.52\00:19:45.40
Yeah, could be.
00:19:45.43\00:19:46.77
Yeah, so when you go
from potatoes, to potato chips
00:19:47.70\00:19:51.75
you increase the
salt content by 100 times.
00:19:51.78\00:19:55.98
Whoa, but I so
much like potato chips.
00:19:56.01\00:19:58.61
So what do I do Dr. Diehl?
00:19:58.64\00:20:00.02
Well, you have to get
potato chips that are baked,
00:20:00.05\00:20:04.67
and are low in
sodium, no salt added.
00:20:04.70\00:20:07.36
Okay, what
about those sun chips?
00:20:07.39\00:20:09.77
Yeah, that would be alright.
00:20:09.80\00:20:11.66
Low sodium, right?
00:20:12.25\00:20:13.22
Yeah, we got a subway
sandwich the other day.
00:20:13.23\00:20:15.04
You saw what I got.
00:20:15.07\00:20:16.04
Was that okay?
00:20:16.05\00:20:17.02
Yeah, I think so.
00:20:17.03\00:20:18.00
You only ate one of
those and I ate the rest.
00:20:18.01\00:20:19.21
Were you watching your salt?
00:20:19.24\00:20:21.43
No, no, I was alright.
00:20:21.46\00:20:22.74
Okay.
00:20:22.77\00:20:23.74
That was okay.
00:20:23.75\00:20:24.72
But, you know, when you look at,
for instance, kidney beans...
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Kidney beans?
00:20:26.96\00:20:27.96
Yeah.
00:20:27.99\00:20:28.96
Alright.
00:20:28.97\00:20:29.94
You buy kidney
beans in a can usually.
00:20:29.95\00:20:31.30
Uh hum.
00:20:31.33\00:20:32.45
The salt concentration is
200 times that of the original
00:20:32.49\00:20:36.90
kidney bean.
00:20:36.93\00:20:38.11
So whenever you process foods,
it seems that manufacturers add
00:20:38.14\00:20:42.06
some salt to it in order to make
it taste the way they want it
00:20:42.09\00:20:44.91
to taste, and it's
usually too high in salt.
00:20:44.94\00:20:47.69
So get away from the processed
foods, eat foods as grown,
00:20:47.72\00:20:51.66
do your own kidney
beans, and your own pinto beans.
00:20:51.69\00:20:54.57
Soak them yourself.
00:20:54.60\00:20:56.32
Yeah, or sometimes, if you
cannot, find canned beans that
00:20:56.35\00:21:01.42
have been identified as
low sodium, or no sodium added.
00:21:01.45\00:21:05.67
You know, some people with high
blood pressure actually rinse
00:21:05.70\00:21:07.93
their beans to
get rid of the salt.
00:21:07.96\00:21:10.14
Okay, so you take them
out, and you rinse the salt off.
00:21:10.17\00:21:13.02
And just like moving inland,
(you know you said in the first
00:21:13.05\00:21:17.17
half) the people that
lived near the salt water.
00:21:17.20\00:21:18.79
You just move
inland and rinse them off.
00:21:18.82\00:21:21.95
I think it's also important
to recognize where the salt is.
00:21:21.98\00:21:24.23
You know when you
have a slice of cheese?
00:21:24.26\00:21:26.02
A slice of cheese.
00:21:26.05\00:21:27.53
Two slices of
cheese, pasteurized?
00:21:27.56\00:21:30.40
2 grams of salt.
00:21:31.13\00:21:32.66
Just two slices, 2 grams.
00:21:32.69\00:21:34.32
And you shouldn't have
more than perhaps 5 grams
00:21:34.35\00:21:37.08
for the whole day.
00:21:37.11\00:21:38.09
I mean you can see what
happens when you have a pizza.
00:21:38.12\00:21:39.67
Right?
00:21:39.71\00:21:42.03
Maybe a favorite dish, but
if you have high blood pressure
00:21:42.07\00:21:45.63
you have to
really think about that.
00:21:45.66\00:21:47.13
Okay, so making these choices,
do you have any magic you can
00:21:47.16\00:21:50.65
share with us?
00:21:50.68\00:21:51.65
Well, I think, by and
large, the simpler you eat
00:21:51.66\00:21:56.23
the better you're off.
00:21:56.26\00:21:57.23
The more you can
get the foods as grown,
00:21:57.24\00:21:59.74
the better you are off.
00:21:59.77\00:22:00.82
Have those potatoes.
00:22:00.85\00:22:02.48
Potato chips, Pringles,
these are processed foods.
00:22:02.51\00:22:07.90
You have to be careful because
the salt is usually accumulating
00:22:07.93\00:22:12.66
very, very quickly.
00:22:12.69\00:22:13.66
You have a list
here of better choices.
00:22:13.67\00:22:17.20
The magic of better choices.
00:22:17.23\00:22:19.46
Let's go through those.
00:22:19.49\00:22:20.53
Well, you might also want
to take a look at fast foods...
00:22:20.56\00:22:23.47
Okay.
00:22:23.50\00:22:24.47
...high in salt, usually, so you
have to begin to read labels.
00:22:24.48\00:22:27.37
If you are tied to a
fast food diet you have to be
00:22:27.40\00:22:30.66
really, really careful.
00:22:30.69\00:22:31.75
But it's not just the salt.
00:22:31.78\00:22:33.73
I mean, of course, we
should kind of shake the shaker.
00:22:33.76\00:22:37.20
We should shake the salt habit.
00:22:37.23\00:22:39.41
But there are
some other factors.
00:22:39.44\00:22:40.43
Here you see the next one.
00:22:40.46\00:22:41.64
Number one:
drastically reduce the salt.
00:22:41.67\00:22:45.44
Number two: eat more
potassium rich foods.
00:22:45.47\00:22:48.82
Like bananas, blueberries?
00:22:48.85\00:22:50.66
Yeah, unrefined
foods, vegetables.
00:22:50.69\00:22:53.03
Then also do
something about weight.
00:22:53.06\00:22:57.20
You know, for every extra pound
that we carry, we're increasing
00:22:57.23\00:23:01.23
the likelihood of
high blood pressure.
00:23:01.26\00:23:03.20
Number four: we have to do
something about atherosclerosis,
00:23:03.23\00:23:06.71
you know, the
hardening of the arteries?
00:23:06.74\00:23:07.84
And as we begin to adopt a
simpler diet, the arteries begin
00:23:08.51\00:23:13.56
to become a little more
elastic, and they become wider.
00:23:13.59\00:23:18.16
Then number five: we have
to do something about smoking,
00:23:18.19\00:23:20.36
and obviously we have to
do something about alcohol.
00:23:20.39\00:23:22.60
Alcohol is often misunderstood.
00:23:22.63\00:23:24.41
People think that, well I just
use a little bit of alcohol.
00:23:24.44\00:23:27.03
You know, if you are
just a social drinker,
00:23:28.02\00:23:30.20
and I am sorry to say, but
if you are just a social drinker
00:23:30.23\00:23:34.44
you have to keep in
mind that probably 30% of
00:23:34.47\00:23:38.65
the high blood pressure,
problem, in our society
00:23:38.68\00:23:40.47
is due to social drinking, using
alcohol in what we think of as
00:23:40.50\00:23:43.82
in a responsible manner.
00:23:43.85\00:23:45.23
When it comes to high
blood pressure, it is not
00:23:45.26\00:23:47.80
the best thing to do.
00:23:47.83\00:23:49.54
How does that work?
00:23:49.57\00:23:50.54
What does the alcohol do?
00:23:50.55\00:23:51.52
How does it make the
blood pressure go up?
00:23:51.53\00:23:53.32
I really don't know.
00:23:53.35\00:23:55.65
Okay.
00:23:55.68\00:23:56.87
Is there some kind of
factor that just does that?
00:23:56.90\00:23:59.16
I mean, alcohol can
have, obviously, an effect on
00:23:59.19\00:24:02.07
constricting blood vessels.
00:24:02.10\00:24:04.62
That's probably how
it exerts its effect.
00:24:04.65\00:24:08.45
It's not in your best interest,
and besides, alcohol also adds
00:24:08.48\00:24:11.19
some extra calories, right?
00:24:11.22\00:24:12.82
And we talked about overweight.
00:24:12.85\00:24:13.91
Now, when you exercise does
that help your blood pressure
00:24:14.60\00:24:16.98
problems, or
does it make it go up?
00:24:17.01\00:24:18.79
Excellent idea.
00:24:18.82\00:24:20.11
Excellent?
00:24:20.14\00:24:21.11
Excellent idea.
00:24:21.12\00:24:22.09
That probably
should be number seven.
00:24:22.10\00:24:23.97
Alright, loosing
excess weight, I thought maybe
00:24:24.76\00:24:27.41
you have options.
00:24:27.44\00:24:28.72
You can loose weight by
amputation, which we probably
00:24:28.75\00:24:30.86
don't recommend,
or you can exercise.
00:24:30.89\00:24:34.26
I think exercise would
lower the blood pressure
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fairly consistently.
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Great idea.
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And then reducing
atherosclerosis, that's the
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whole idea of the CHIP program
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You help people understand
what that is, how to reduce it
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through education, and then
implementation: foods as grown,
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all these different things.
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Yeah.
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You know, the Surgeon General
that we used to have made a very
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profound statement,
and you see it right here.
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He said probably
"No prescription is more
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valuable than knowledge. "
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That's what the CHIP
program is trying to do.
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Forty hours of education.
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Forty hours of learning together
in a group of 50 people,
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to 500 people, night after
night, developing new habits,
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looking at the scientific
evidence, and looking at
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high blood pressure and how
it relates to lifestyle factors.
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So what happens in that program?
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When you put people through
that, do the people that are
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hypertensive in the CHIP
program see good results?
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Excellent results!
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We measure everything before
they come into the program.
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We measure everything
after they leave the program
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four weeks later.
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And then, of course, they
go into an alumni structured
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regular meeting program
for the rest of the year.
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We find that the blood pressure
levels come down 10 to 15%
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within 4 weeks.
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Okay, so that's good news.
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And once that comes down
all kinds of problems go away.
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The things that hypertension
can lead to: strokes, impotence,
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all these different things.
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Sometimes these medications
people take to get their
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blood pressure down
have side effects that people
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don't like as well.
00:26:12.92\00:26:14.01
Yeah, and you know, we could
side step these side effects
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very effectively by making
some simple lifestyle changes.
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Why would you want to take a
medication to de-salt the body,
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to take the salt out,
to take the water out,
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when you just have to...
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Take it out.
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...reduce the salt intake.
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Okay?
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Yeah.
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So we have a great opportunity
to help ourselves in the
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contents of good medical
care, work with your physician,
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begin to take some
responsibility, and you can have
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an excellent chance, 80% of
the people, to be able to reduce
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their blood pressure problems,
and not have to rely on
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medication, and worry about the
side effects, and the money too.
00:26:49.05\00:26:52.47
How does God factor into this?
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Well, God made us
in a very special way.
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He is the master designer,
and he wanted us to be a
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good steward.
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That which He entrusted to
us, we should give back Him,
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and He will give us the power to
do that which is not easy to do.
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To make lifestyle
changes; it's not easy.
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But you can swim across, and
against the current of culture,
00:27:16.05\00:27:20.72
and be in better health, and
honor the Creator because He's
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going to empower you to do this.
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So, you'll pray for me that
I become a post-shaker, right?
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Or no shaker at all.
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Well, thank you so
much for joining us for
00:27:31.85\00:27:34.32
Health For a Lifetime.
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If you want more information
about Dr. Diehl's program,
00:27:35.40\00:27:37.85
you can go to chiphealth.
com, and you'll find all kinds
00:27:37.88\00:27:42.67
of resources there.
00:27:42.70\00:27:43.67
We're glad you watch our program
here on 3ABN, and we hope that
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as a result of today's program
you can put some things into
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practice, and bring
that blood pressure down.
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And as a result,
you'll have health that lasts
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for a lifetime.
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