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Hi and welcome to
Health for a Lifestime.
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Are you a
vegetarian? We're gonna talk
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about that today, I'm
you host Don Mackintosh,
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we're gonna talk
about some advantages
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that come by
having a vegetarian diet.
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And also some
concerns that people have.
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Talking with us about
this important subject
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is Dr. Nedley. And
Dr. Nedley, you are from
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Ardmore, Oklahoma
still isn't that right?
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That's right, been
there for 18 years.
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You travel around
the world and you talk to
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a lot of people
about this subject.
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You've written a book
Proof Positive and also
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Depression the Way
Out, and working on
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several other
books. But what are some of
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the advantage first,
advantages rather first
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off, concerning the
vegetarian lifestyle that
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you've
discovered in your research.
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Well,
vegetarians do live longer,
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significantly
longer, if you're a careful
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vegetarian you can
live up to 15 years longer
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that someone in
the general population.
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And the advantages
are way beyond that.
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Not only do they
have less cancer,
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less heart
disease. But they also have
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improved mental
health, compared to the
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average
non-vegetarian. They actually
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make more melatonin at night,
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which can be
helpful in a number of ways.
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And also you can
decrease the amount of
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heme iron, heme
iron is a pro-oxidant,
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which can cause some
premature aging factors
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and also increase the
risk of cancer and heart
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disease. And if
you're a totally plant-based
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vegetarian, you're
not getting cholesterol
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in diet. So, you
don't have to worry
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about the oxidized
cholesterol and the
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significant atherosclerosis
that people on cheese
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and dairy and meat
have to worry about.
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So are there any
plants that you shouldn't eat.
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Yes, we wouldn't
recommend eating tobacco.
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There are defiantly
poisonous mushrooms and
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other plants that
you shouldn't eat.
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We're talking about
edible plants that are
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healthy for you. So,
don't just head out in
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the woods right now, alright so.
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That's right. Fruits,
nuts, grains and vegetables,
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basically the things
that are there in the
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original diet, we're
discovering by all these
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studies that they
have real advantages.
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Absolutely. Well, you
know someone's out there
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saying oh! No, another
program on vegetarianism,
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well don't they
know about the concerns,
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what about
this? What about that?
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And you know every
time you talk about this,
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I'm sure that you
have people they come
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up and say what about these?
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What about that?
Yes, that's right,
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one of the concerns is protein,
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we've dealt with
that on a previous topic
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where we studied
the protein concern out
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completely. But you
can get all eight essential
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amino acid in
abundant amounts without ever
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consuming animal
protein. If you have a baked
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potato, if you have brown rice,
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if you have
over the other one's,
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sweet potato. Yeah,
virtually any vegetable
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or grain, you're
going to have all eight
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essential amino
acids, that if you ate enough
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to maintain your
weight you would get plenty
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of those eight
essential amino acids,
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fruits would be
the only exception,
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if you're just a
fruitarian, you make short
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of yourself. And
those eight essential
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amino acids. Yeah,
if it's just blueberries
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you probably blew
it. Alright, what about
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someone say, what
about your iron, you're
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not gonna get enough iron?
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Eat these snails.
No, you can get plenty
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of iron in the vegetarian diet;
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it's true that you
can be on an unhealthy
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vegetarian diet, that
is short on iron, okay.
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And so just because
you're a vegetarian does
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not guarantee that
you're going to get enough
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iron. In fact you can,
it's kind of interesting,
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one of the
physician who utilizes may lot
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and consults may particular for
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gastroenteritis
problem, he likes to joke about
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my vegetarian
diet. And he will say
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consult Dr. Nedley
regarding psoriasis of the
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liver due to vegetarian product.
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Well, of course he's
talking about alcohol,
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alcohol is a vegetarian product,
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but it's not a
healthy vegetarian product.
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And some vegetarians
might be eating cake and
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ice-cream and soda
pops all day along and
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that's not gonna be healthy,
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that's gonna be very
unhealthy vegetarian diet.
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And so you can
short yourself in iron but
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what we have is a
graphic, are the foods
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that are pretty high
in iron. You can see that
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Avocados at the
bottom of the screen are
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gonna have 2 mgs of
iron and Mangoes 2mgs
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and Whole Wheat
Flour are 4½ mgs.
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And by the way White
Flour virtually doesn't
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have any, in fact they
have to try enriched it,
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they add 20
percent of the iron back,
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Almonds, excellent
source of iron 5 mgs of iron.
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And than we have
foods that are even
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higher yet in iron
on the next graphic.
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So, like rice bran,
and these types of things
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even higher. Well,
yeah rice bran is very low,
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of course they're
concentrated foods like
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rice bran, and tofu,
the concentrated food
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very high in iron.
Sunflower Seeds are quite
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high in iron, you
can see 9mgs of iron,
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Soybeans 8, Spinach
is actually an excellent
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source of iron as well. Okay.
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And so it's easy
to get enough iron.
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Now how much iron does
meat have in a serving?
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About 2mgs. Not very much.
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And so you know the
heme iron is more readily
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absorbed, it can be
absorb maybe almost twice
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as readily as plant
iron. But you can see most
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those plant foods
have 4mgs of more of iron
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in it per serving
and so that would be,
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it's very easy
to get enough iron,
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our vegetarian
diet. Or you talked about
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something there
you said that heme iron
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is easier to absorb
than the plant iron,
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what are the things
we can do to enhance
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the absorption of
iron? Yeah, it's even
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the non-heme iron
can be more readily
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absorbed if we
pay attention to that.
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And factors that
decrease the absorption
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of iron, Caffeine is
one of those factors that
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significantly
decreases the absorption.
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Decaf will also do it
because of the tannins.
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And calcium supplements
and dairy also decrease
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the absorption of
iron. Being an athlete does
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not decrease absorption,
but increases red cell
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turnover, increasing
the need for more iron.
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Because they wear-out sooner.
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That's right; this is
one of the reasons why
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athletes need a
little more iron.
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In fact I've seen
many runners for instance,
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particularly female
runners short themselves
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of iron and of course
that will effect their
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running ability.
Well, you know the
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average red blood
cell, well lives a 120 days
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I think I
remember. What happen when
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you a runner? About
90 days. About 90 days,
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yeah, it just gets
worn-out; it's going
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around the loop too quick.
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And I guess so,
we're not exactly sure why
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it's destroyed
prematurely but it hasn't,
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may just be the
process of running itself
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through those
capillaries that smashes
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them and destroys
them. Well, you know
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elephants and
rhinoceroses and some of
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these animals are huge animals.
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But I do hear this
concern coming up that,
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children that are
raised with a vegetarian
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lifestyle maybe
stunted in their growth.
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Yes, actually that
is a false concern,
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but there was an
interesting study done by
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Dr. Sabate in
California showing a comparison
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of the growth of
vegetarian children with
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meat-consuming
children in the same
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geographic area in
Southern California.
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Those Meat-eating
children were slightly taller
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than the
vegetarians until age ten.
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And then after age
10, the vegetarians caught
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up and by age 18,
the vegetarians had
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surpassed their
meat-eating counterparts,
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being at least an
inch taller as adults.
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And so lot of individuals
don't realize although
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as a young child
the meat-eating children
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tend to, shoot
up a little quicker,
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shoot up a little
quicker. Is that cause of the
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protein, meat protein.
Yeah, that's because of
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the higher protein,
but what happens is?
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Their bony plates
close, quicker too soon and
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so they quit
growing. And the vegetarians
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continue to grow
often up until age 18
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they're still
growing. And so they end up
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being taller.
Well, that's interesting,
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so another miss kind of
crashed and crush there.
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Well, another big
concern I mean I hear it
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a lot over the years
as the people in my church
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have done health
programs and of course I'm
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involved in those.
And that is what about
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vitamin B12 and of
course that's a concern,
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how do you answer that,
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what's the latest and greatest?
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Well, that is probably
the single biggest concern
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for plant based
vegetarians is B12.
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And the reason for it
is, B12 isn't really in
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plant foods, it is
not made by plants nor is
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it made by animals.
And actually B12 is made
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by bacteria and interestingly,
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we have a lot of
bacteria in our mouth and
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those bacteria can make B12.
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And so if you don't
brush your teeth a lot,
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you might actually
absorb more B12 and get
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more B12. You know
we're not recommending
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although. We're
not recommending, okay.
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B12 is also you know
in the dirt and so if we
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don't wash our fruits
and vegetables we'll get
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a little more B12.
Okay, these are two ways
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you're not really recommending.
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And also your
colleen makes a huge amount
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of B12, because
your colleen is teaming
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with bacteria. A lot
of people are not aware
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that one forth of
the weight of your bowel
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movement is bacteria.
I was not aware of that.
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Thank you for
making me aware of it,
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okay, so the bacteria is there.
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The bacteria is there
its making lots of B12,
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the problem is B12 is
absorbed in the distal
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ileum, close to the
colon, but there is a
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valve there for good reason.
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So, we don't
desterilize the small bowel,
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but if that valve
is incompetent you will
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make plenty of
B12. I mean not make it,
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you will actually
absorb plenty of B12 and
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addition to your
colon making as and
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so you will never
need a B12 supplement.
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You can't count on your
valve being decompetent.
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No, not unless
you've had surgery or if you
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have a genetic
issue there. Alright.
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And so this maybe I
don't know for sure with
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this maybe one of
the reasons why even
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some plant base
vegetarians never run into
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B12 problems. This has
been a confusing factor
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for many people;
some people never consume
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any animal products whatsoever.
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And we know that
they're not eating foods
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that are high in B12,
we check their B12 levels
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they're fine. They
were up there where they
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normal individual is
however there are some
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vegetarians, a
significant percentage of
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vegetarians that are
plant based that will start
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to run into B12 problems.
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And it takes a year
after they changed their
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diet before this
starts to occur because B12
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lasts in the system,
it's stored in the system
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for up to a year.
But then after that,
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the B12 levels
begin to drop and they can
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drop to the place where
actually disease results.
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Depression can resolve, fatigue,
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loss of energy,
anemia can resolve and even
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nervous, permanent
neurological deficits can
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occur if the B12
levels are extremely low.
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Now, that's very dangerous,
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we're gonna talk a
little bit about that,
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because I've don't,
you don't wanna minimize
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this problem, it
can be a real problem.
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It can be a real
problem, in fact I know some
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individuals that,
well one individual in
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particular was
on a very good diet.
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But was not
concerned about the B12 issue,
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she had extremely low
B12 levels for a longtime
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and ended up with a
permanent neurologic
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deficit, I mean
she walks bent over.
00:13:04.44\00:13:07.45
She have no position
sense, meaning that if
00:13:08.66\00:13:11.06
she were to close
her eyes she'd fall over.
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Because her posterior
columns in her spinal cord
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are no longer active,
because they didn't have
00:13:16.72\00:13:18.84
B12 in them and it's a
crippling disorder that
00:13:18.85\00:13:24.21
she experienced
simply due to not enough B12
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in the diet. We're talking with
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Dr. Neil Nedley,
we're talking about common
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concerns that come up
concerning the vegetarian
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lifestyle. We're
talking about some of the
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advantages; we
wanna continue with those
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concerns and
continue our discussion
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concerning B12.
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been talking about the
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vegetarian
lifestyle and its advantages,
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but also some
concerns that had come up.
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And join us to talk
about this is Dr. Neil Nedley,
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we're glad you
with us and we've talked
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about some of these advantages.
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And we've talked
about some other concerns
00:15:04.68\00:15:06.61
and we've entered
the discussion about
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vitamin B12. You
know I heard a number of
00:15:08.82\00:15:11.78
years ago that
there are more meat-eaters
00:15:11.79\00:15:14.40
that have vitamin B12
deficiency than they are
00:15:14.41\00:15:17.02
vegetarians is that
correct. That's true,
00:15:17.03\00:15:18.83
yeah a lot of people
think well if I'm a meat-eater,
00:15:19.49\00:15:21.64
this is something I
don't have to worry about.
00:15:21.65\00:15:23.29
Because meat has
more B12 and it simply
00:15:23.30\00:15:26.38
because as more bacteria in it,
00:15:26.39\00:15:28.06
you know the
bacteria is what produces the
00:15:29.20\00:15:31.19
B12 and meat the
longer it sits around,
00:15:31.20\00:15:35.72
the longer those
bacteria have a chance to
00:15:35.73\00:15:38.12
produce their stuff the
more B12 might have in it.
00:15:38.20\00:15:41.95
But the problem
with people is the age,
00:15:42.38\00:15:45.77
is they tend to
produce less intrinsic factor
00:15:45.94\00:15:48.82
in their stomach. And
the parietal cells in their
00:15:48.83\00:15:51.65
stomach just won't
work like they used too.
00:15:51.66\00:15:54.13
And thus they're not
able to absorb the B12,
00:15:54.79\00:15:57.55
so even though meat
may have plenty of B12,
00:15:57.59\00:15:59.60
there is two
problems with meat as a B12
00:15:59.61\00:16:01.69
source number 1, B12
can be tightly bond to
00:16:01.70\00:16:05.66
the fibers in the
meat itself that may not be
00:16:05.67\00:16:07.92
absorbs that
readily. And then secondly,
00:16:07.93\00:16:10.89
if they're not making
enough intrinsic factor
00:16:10.90\00:16:13.14
they're certainly not
gonna be able to absorb it.
00:16:13.15\00:16:15.09
So, regardless if
you're a vegetarian or a
00:16:15.83\00:16:18.13
meat-eater you
need to be aware of the
00:16:18.14\00:16:20.52
importance of
vitamin B12. Over 90 percent
00:16:20.53\00:16:23.74
of people with B12
deficiency are meat-eaters
00:16:23.84\00:16:26.54
and thus I check it
out routinely in people as
00:16:27.26\00:16:31.94
part of their
general health physical.
00:16:31.95\00:16:33.91
Because B12
deficiency is so common,
00:16:33.92\00:16:35.97
particularly if
someone's over the age of 50,
00:16:35.98\00:16:38.44
I'll be checking that
out because that's when
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it become even
a lot more common.
00:16:40.73\00:16:42.29
Okay we've talked
about the concerns;
00:16:42.95\00:16:45.34
we've talked about
the neuronal concerns,
00:16:45.35\00:16:47.90
the nerves and
different thing when you talked
00:16:48.37\00:16:50.15
about the lady who had
real deficits as a result
00:16:50.16\00:16:52.84
of that. What about
B12 deficiency in brain
00:16:52.85\00:16:55.10
health? Well,
there is quite a link,
00:16:55.11\00:16:57.64
B12 is important
for brain health.
00:16:58.76\00:17:01.76
B12 deficiency has
been linked to diseases such
00:17:01.95\00:17:06.16
as Alzheimer's
disease, Parkinson's disease has
00:17:06.17\00:17:10.33
also been linked.
Really. And other degenerative
00:17:10.34\00:17:14.06
diseases of the brain
can be linked to be B12
00:17:15.51\00:17:17.76
deficiency;
depression actually can be cause
00:17:17.77\00:17:20.84
by B12 deficiency. If
we don't have enough B12
00:17:20.85\00:17:23.63
around, we won't
make enough SAM-e in the
00:17:23.64\00:17:26.20
brain, and SAM-e is
needed for the final step
00:17:26.21\00:17:29.45
to give the methyl
donation to make Dopamine,
00:17:29.52\00:17:32.12
Serotonin and Norepinephrine,
00:17:32.24\00:17:34.69
three important
neurotransmitters in
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the brain. And that's
why when someone is B12
00:17:36.81\00:17:39.17
deficient we
gave him a B12 shot,
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boy within 24hrs,
they've got energy,
00:17:41.05\00:17:43.48
they're feeling a lot
better, they're making
00:17:44.31\00:17:45.95
those three
neurotransmitters again.
00:17:45.96\00:17:47.79
Well, what about
B12 and homocysteine?
00:17:48.50\00:17:50.51
This is some of the
new evidence homocysteine
00:17:51.19\00:17:53.80
is a, can be a toxin,
it's an amino acid that's
00:17:53.81\00:17:58.28
produced in excess if
we don't have enough B12
00:17:58.29\00:18:00.95
or enough B6 or Folate around.
00:18:00.96\00:18:03.16
And high homocysteine
levels have been linked
00:18:03.52\00:18:05.82
to certain nervous
system problems including
00:18:05.95\00:18:08.57
Alzheimer's as well as
increasing, dramatically
00:18:08.58\00:18:12.01
increasing risk of
heart disease and stroke.
00:18:12.02\00:18:14.37
And so you know
interestingly you can be
00:18:15.02\00:18:17.13
on a vegetarian diet
which is gonna decrease
00:18:17.14\00:18:19.26
your incidence of
heart disease and stroke.
00:18:19.27\00:18:21.00
But if your B12
levels are real low your
00:18:21.01\00:18:22.78
homocysteine can be
up and thus you may have
00:18:22.79\00:18:25.25
a risk factor for
heart disease that isn't
00:18:25.26\00:18:27.20
uncovered by looking at
your cholesterol levels.
00:18:27.21\00:18:29.57
And so that's why
I've began the process in
00:18:29.99\00:18:32.24
my office when I
see patients of not only
00:18:32.25\00:18:34.42
checking their
cholesterol levels but also
00:18:34.43\00:18:36.63
checking their
homocysteine levels,
00:18:36.64\00:18:38.12
you may wanna get
your doctor to do that
00:18:38.13\00:18:40.56
for you. And if you
find out that it's elevated,
00:18:40.57\00:18:42.98
it could be related
to deficiency of B12.
00:18:42.99\00:18:45.40
That's right and
that's when we would check
00:18:45.44\00:18:47.09
the B12 levels or
the folate levels,
00:18:47.10\00:18:50.22
but B12 deficiency is
a lot more common than
00:18:50.30\00:18:52.65
folate deficiency
actually. What about
00:18:52.66\00:18:54.91
drinking milk, I mean,
will that take care of my
00:18:54.92\00:18:56.92
B12 problems? Well,
this is one of the biggest
00:18:56.93\00:18:59.92
myths out there and
it's a myth that's also
00:18:59.93\00:19:02.16
present among
Seventh-day Adventist.
00:19:02.17\00:19:05.05
You know interestingly
I've heard some people
00:19:05.12\00:19:07.80
stayed if you're on
a plant based diet and
00:19:07.88\00:19:12.17
you're not taking a
B12 supplement all you need
00:19:12.18\00:19:14.39
to do is drink milk and
you'll get plenty of B12
00:19:14.40\00:19:17.72
and you won't
need to worry about it.
00:19:17.73\00:19:19.07
That is actually not
true, milk is not a reliable
00:19:20.10\00:19:23.93
source of B12 and
we have a graphic that
00:19:24.04\00:19:26.95
explains this.
Assuring adequate B12 intake is
00:19:26.96\00:19:32.55
often cited as one of
the main reasons for adding
00:19:32.56\00:19:35.23
dairy to a vegan
diet. However not only is
00:19:35.24\00:19:39.26
evidence lacking to
support such a conclusion,
00:19:39.27\00:19:41.50
that there is
actually data to the contrary.
00:19:41.51\00:19:43.48
A 1999 Australian study
eloquently illustrate the
00:19:43.95\00:19:46.83
fact that dairy doesn't
necessarily prevent vitamin
00:19:46.84\00:19:49.99
B12 deficiency. This
was a study that was done
00:19:50.00\00:19:54.32
on Seventh-day
Adventist ministers who were
00:19:54.33\00:19:56.32
not using B12 supplements,
they were both vegans
00:19:56.33\00:19:59.69
which means totally
plant based vegetarians or
00:19:59.70\00:20:02.98
lacto-ovo vegetarians
and both groups tended
00:20:02.99\00:20:06.61
to have lower
vitamin B12 levels than those
00:20:06.62\00:20:09.14
who ate meat. And in
fact, in that particular
00:20:09.15\00:20:12.27
study, the lacto-ovo
vegetarians were just as
00:20:12.28\00:20:15.61
low as the vegan vegetarians.
00:20:15.62\00:20:18.29
And so don't rest
assured that you're getting
00:20:19.38\00:20:22.21
B12 from those
sources Okay, so even
00:20:22.22\00:20:26.72
though vegetarians have a
lower incidence of vitamin
00:20:26.73\00:20:29.77
B12 deficiency, they
need to be aware of it
00:20:29.78\00:20:33.39
and so also do
meat-eaters. But what are
00:20:33.57\00:20:36.72
some sources then
of vitamin B12 that we
00:20:36.73\00:20:40.53
can rely on, we
don't wanna get it from the
00:20:40.54\00:20:42.94
bacteria in our teeth
by not brushing our teeth,
00:20:42.95\00:20:44.92
we don't particularly
wanna get it from our
00:20:45.27\00:20:46.88
large bowel and all that
things that we mentioned,
00:20:46.89\00:20:49.35
so what can we
look? Well, you know first
00:20:49.36\00:20:51.68
I must correct you
a little bit there;
00:20:51.69\00:20:54.95
it's true that if we
take a look at all groups
00:20:55.34\00:20:58.25
of people that
are B12 deficient.
00:20:58.26\00:21:00.54
Ninety percent of
them or more would be
00:21:00.77\00:21:02.73
meat-eaters. Right.
But as far as the incidence
00:21:02.74\00:21:06.44
of B12 deficiency is
concerned, the incidence
00:21:06.45\00:21:08.97
is higher in vegetarians. Okay.
00:21:08.98\00:21:11.11
Then it is in the
meat -eating population and
00:21:11.34\00:21:13.19
so that's why it is
the big vegetarian concern,
00:21:13.20\00:21:16.94
because it's kind of
the only factor that people
00:21:16.95\00:21:19.26
can find out there
where vegetarians might
00:21:19.27\00:21:22.31
have more of a
problem than the average
00:21:22.32\00:21:24.82
meat-eater. But having
said that it doesn't need
00:21:24.83\00:21:29.61
to be a problem,
if vegetarians are
00:21:29.62\00:21:32.68
consuming sources
of B12. And these are
00:21:32.69\00:21:36.78
some of the sources
of B12; we have them
00:21:36.79\00:21:39.06
up there on the
screen. Organic soybeans
00:21:39.41\00:21:42.88
would have very low
amounts, organic will
00:21:42.89\00:21:45.56
means grown in heavy
in manure and of course
00:21:45.57\00:21:47.59
you might get some
B12 just through osmosis
00:21:47.60\00:21:50.26
through the plants
that way. Egg Whites 0.2,
00:21:50.27\00:21:54.43
Skim Milk 0.3, Soy Milk
1.0 and of course that's
00:21:54.44\00:21:59.00
because it is
supplemented. Total cereal
00:21:59.01\00:22:02.53
will have a 100
percent of your daily
00:22:03.13\00:22:04.95
requirements, which
is 6 micrograms per day.
00:22:04.96\00:22:08.66
And then there were
other additional sources
00:22:09.92\00:22:12.36
of B12. Okay, so
Total Cereal, a Product 19
00:22:12.37\00:22:17.56
Cereal. Fortified Soy or
Rice Milk is hard to find
00:22:17.57\00:22:21.49
any milk out there
right now there are not
00:22:21.59\00:22:23.77
supplement with B12
because this has become
00:22:23.78\00:22:26.03
an issue. And then
there many supplements that
00:22:26.04\00:22:28.12
you can take out
there, vitamin supplements
00:22:28.13\00:22:30.32
and B12
supplements that are out there.
00:22:30.33\00:22:32.31
If you were to
consume cows milk as a source
00:22:33.23\00:22:36.28
of B12, the skim
milk would be preferable.
00:22:36.29\00:22:38.48
But again that's not
a guarantee that your
00:22:38.49\00:22:41.24
B12 levels are
gonna go up that much,
00:22:41.25\00:22:43.17
because they are
actually as less as cows
00:22:43.18\00:22:45.24
milk and there is in
most of the soy milks today.
00:22:45.25\00:22:47.56
Yeah, okay, so
those are the vegetarian
00:22:48.36\00:22:52.78
sources of B12,
there were some overall
00:22:52.79\00:22:56.68
sources and then
some. Yeah and what I
00:22:56.69\00:22:58.76
would like to
recommend to the average
00:22:58.77\00:23:01.32
vegetarian out there.
Is if you don't have a
00:23:01.33\00:23:04.16
source, a
laboratory source where you can
00:23:04.29\00:23:06.23
get your B12 level
checked every year which
00:23:06.24\00:23:08.41
I can get, I mean
our own laboratory does a
00:23:08.42\00:23:11.64
very good analysis
of B12. But if you don't
00:23:11.65\00:23:14.32
have an access to
that, just be safe and take
00:23:14.33\00:23:16.75
a B12 supplement,
they are very cheap,
00:23:16.76\00:23:18.88
they're very
effective. You can absorb them
00:23:19.90\00:23:22.46
under your tongue
or if you chew them,
00:23:22.47\00:23:24.31
they get more readily absorb,
00:23:24.32\00:23:25.65
you don't wanna
swallow and hold.
00:23:25.66\00:23:27.22
Because you're not
gonna absorb them as
00:23:27.23\00:23:28.77
much, 100 micrograms
a day would be plenty,
00:23:28.78\00:23:31.71
you only need 6
but a 100 micrograms is
00:23:32.65\00:23:35.16
an assurance and
there is no problem of
00:23:35.17\00:23:36.66
getting that much
B12, even a 1000 micrograms
00:23:36.67\00:23:39.93
a day is not a
problem. But if you're consuming
00:23:39.94\00:23:43.79
huge amounts like
3000 micrograms a day,
00:23:43.80\00:23:46.60
then that will start
to began to shut down
00:23:46.61\00:23:48.47
your melatonin levels.
You know an interesting
00:23:48.48\00:23:51.58
question that you
may have thought about
00:23:51.59\00:23:53.96
so I'm just gonna
throw it out there and that
00:23:53.97\00:23:55.48
is you know we often
talk about how science
00:23:55.49\00:23:59.05
validates the
diet of Genesis 1:29.
00:23:59.06\00:24:02.20
And then adding
the vegetables later in
00:24:02.71\00:24:04.37
Genesis chapter 3.
But these seems to be
00:24:04.38\00:24:07.68
kind of that the one
that, it doesn't seem
00:24:07.69\00:24:09.95
to hold true to.
What have you thought
00:24:09.96\00:24:12.24
about that over the
years? Well, you know
00:24:12.25\00:24:14.99
and that's why some
people have an issue
00:24:15.00\00:24:17.84
with this kind of you
know refused to consider
00:24:17.95\00:24:23.37
B12 supplements.
It's kind of interesting
00:24:24.02\00:24:25.96
Ellen White spoke
about this, there were people
00:24:25.97\00:24:28.85
in her day who had
totally gone to plant
00:24:28.86\00:24:32.10
base sources of
nutrition. And they didn't
00:24:32.11\00:24:34.98
have B12 supplements back down.
00:24:34.99\00:24:36.98
And they were getting
ill. Dr. Crest was one of
00:24:37.30\00:24:39.79
them and she told him
specifically to get back
00:24:39.80\00:24:43.62
on dairy and eggs,
particularly eggs she said,
00:24:43.77\00:24:47.05
more so than
dairy. You see eggs were a
00:24:47.29\00:24:49.03
better source of
B12 than the milk was.
00:24:49.04\00:24:52.76
And than she said
that eventually God would
00:24:53.46\00:24:56.93
work this problem
out, but she said for now
00:24:56.94\00:25:02.10
you need the animal
foods. And of course I
00:25:02.11\00:25:05.31
think he has worked
it out simply because
00:25:05.32\00:25:07.23
B12 is so readily
available and it's the only
00:25:07.30\00:25:09.48
thing that's not there.
Now, in the original diet
00:25:09.49\00:25:12.45
they probably was
B12 there or you know,
00:25:13.13\00:25:15.63
we didn't have to
worry about washing the dirt
00:25:15.64\00:25:17.83
away. You know, you
just got the fruits and
00:25:17.84\00:25:22.69
the vegetables from
the garden and what came
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with them was
probably the B12 there.
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But now due to the
pesticides and those
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types of things
everyone wants to wash
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their fruits and vegetables.
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And so we maybe
washing away some of
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the B12 there, we
don't really realize all
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the intricacies of
it. We do know that about
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half of vegetarians
will never run into a B12
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problem, even though
they are totally plant based.
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The other half can and
so just to be on the sure
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side just take a B12
supplement like I said
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it's cheap, it's
effective and it will prevent
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your a lot of
problems down the road.
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You have the couple
of graphics on Omega-3
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talk me about that briefly.
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That's another
concern of vegetarians,
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that they may not
can be getting enough
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Omega-3, Omega-3
primarily is present in fish
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and one of the
graphic shows us the fish that
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are high in Omega-3.
Drum fish, Tuna, Salmon
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higher yet, Halibut
and Mackerel or I should
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to say Atlantic
Mackerel. But they are plant
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sources. Yes, I
should mention that all of
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those fish that are
high in Omega-3 they're
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all clean fish,
they're all fins and scales.
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Okay. The fish
that are not clean,
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very poor sources of Omega-3.
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Okay and then what
about plant sources there?
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Plant sources are the
preferable way because
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you don't have to
worry about mercury and
00:26:40.58\00:26:41.95
you don't have to
worry about toxins.
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And the plant
sources are up on the screen,
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Almonds come out
pretty good there,
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Green soybeans
much higher in Omega-3,
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again wheat germ if
you're eating white bread
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you're not getting your Omega-3,
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you're getting it
through that whole wheat or
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the wheat germ.
Black Walnuts are a
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1000mgs and English
Walnuts are higher than
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Black Walnuts. And
the highest source is
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Flaxseed as far as plant source,
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there is also a seed
called Chia seeds they
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were almost as high as Flaxseed.
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And so you can get
Omega-3 if you're paying
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attention to those
types of foods in your diet
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and eating them occasionally.
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Well, thank you so
much for being with us today
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Dr. Nedley and thank
you for your webpage as
00:27:21.64\00:27:24.27
well www.nedley
publishing.com and
00:27:24.28\00:27:26.42
www.Dr.nedley
publishing.com, a lot of
00:27:26.55\00:27:28.81
resources there for
our viewers as well.
00:27:28.82\00:27:31.19
Thank you for being
with us, we've talked
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about the advantages
of a vegetarian diet.
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And they are many,
they're far out way the
00:27:35.91\00:27:39.29
concerns, but those
concerns are valid as well,
00:27:39.30\00:27:42.55
don't just minimize
them. Take the advice today
00:27:42.98\00:27:46.88
with your heart and
put it in the practice and
00:27:46.89\00:27:48.78
we know as the result
that you will have health
00:27:48.79\00:27:51.39
that will last not just
now, but for a lifetime.
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