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Hello and welcome to
Health For A Lifetime.
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I'm your host Don Mackintosh.
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And today we're gonna
be talking about cancer.
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It is a word that
strikes fear in the hearts of
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many, talking with us
today about this disease
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and also some
treatment options is
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Dr. Neil Nedley.
Dr. Nedley, we're glad
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you're with us. Thank you.
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I'm glad to be here
Don. Now you, you practice
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internal medicines
deals with the organs systems
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of the body, but
you're also an educator.
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Author of several
books and you get out and you
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see a lot of things in
there with a lot of people.
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But probably one of
the most troubling things
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you have to
talk about is cancer.
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Yes, it's diagnosed
by us on a weekly basis
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sometimes more than once a week,
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but often I have to
bring the patient into the
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office and tell him
that the biopsy results are
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back, and its what
we feared, it's cancer.
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Now when you, you know give that
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diagnosis I'm sure that
they don't listen to you
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much right then
because they're so shocked.
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And, often they
don't hear a lot else.
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Right, so but when
they come back do you have
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any hope for them,
is there any hope for
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people that have a
diagnosis of cancer.
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Well, there can be
actually depends on,
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how confined the cancer is?
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How far it has
spread? And it depends upon
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the organic system
and type of tissue,
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there is a lot of
variables in cancer.
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It's the number one
cause of death in people
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under the age of 85
in the United States
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and so and it
kills children even.
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People of all ages can
get cancer it is not just
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a disease of the elderly.
But it really because of
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what we're learning
in regards to cancer
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treatment, there the
cancer deaths are now
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starting to
plateau. And in fact some of
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the studies are
actually starting to come down
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a little bit and I think
as we learn more about the
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treatment as well
as particularly the
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prevention of cancer.
We ought to see greater
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strides in that regard.
Good, so there's good news.
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Now let's say, you
know probably the best
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thing is to avoid
cancer altogether through
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prevention and
through healthy lifestyle.
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That's right, the
Harvard University has
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stated that that
eighty percentage of all
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cancers are
actually preventable.
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And this is a perfect
case where an ounce of
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prevention is
worth a pound of cure.
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Because the cures
for cancer sometimes
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are damaging, we're
trying to fight a war
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and when we're
fighting a war in the body
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sometimes good cells die off.
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And the cancer treatments can be
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expensive, they can be,
decrease your quality of
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life and even if you
do get a cure and so an
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ounce of prevention
certainly is worth a
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pound of cure and
that prevention has to do
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what we're eating and
what we're putting into
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our body, what
we're doing with our body,
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whether we're exercising or not,
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even how much
sunlight we're getting.
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So eighty percent
could be completely avoided,
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I mean the other day we
were talking about heart
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disease you and I
and you said that ninety
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percent of that
could be prevented,
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eighty percent of
cancer could be prevented.
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And catch up work is
not easy when it comes
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to getting rid of
cancer, what kind of thing?
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You've mentioned
several things diet,
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exercise, sunlight
but let's talk about diet.
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What kind of things
should be avoiding if
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we want to prevent cancer?
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We really need to
avoid carcinogens;
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carcinogens are
substances in the
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environment that
can get into our cell,
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change our cells
into cancerous cells.
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And some of the foods
that are associated with
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cancer are meat
or animal products,
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meat has been linked
to cancer of the pancreas,
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cancer of the
breast, of the prostate,
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of the colon, and
even lymphoma which
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continues to
rise in our society.
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And so the less
meat, the less cancer,
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the less frequently is consumed,
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the less cancer.
And of course we want
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to avoid
tobacco, smoking, alcohol
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actually is a carcinogen,
a lot of people are not
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aware of that, just one
drink every fifteen days
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can increase a woman's
risk of breast cancer by
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sixty percent.
Sixty percent? Wow!
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Alcohol also increases
the risk of colon cancer.
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And then there's
caffeine, which is a
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co-carcinogen.
If that's around and
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other carcinogens
around caffeine allows
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it to get it into the cell,
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to change that
cell more readily.
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And then there are
things that we want to
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not avoid but get more of and
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that's fruits and vegetables.
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Fruits and
vegetables, antioxidant, have
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antioxidants in our
very potent in helping to
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protect us from
cancer. Legumes, soy also
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protective, garlic protective.
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Okay, so basically
the very, the very simply,
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things that were
created be eating, eaten rather
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fruits, nuts, grains
and then later vegetables.
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That's right, also
very protective and
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everything else watch out.
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Well, pretty much, that's right.
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Pretty simple, okay
well, what about cholesterol?
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Well, interestingly
cholesterol has been
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linked to certain
cancers and the question is,
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is it the cholesterol
causing the cancer or
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the foods that
increase your cholesterol levels
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also increases
the risk of cancer.
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For instance ovarian
cancer has been linked
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to high cholesterol
levels. Okay, and in cancer
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treatment cholesterol
also can be important
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when we get to
the treatment section.
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Okay, wonderful, now
go back to some of the
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plants, what are
some of the plants
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that can be protective?
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Well in regards to
cancer treatment and
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now this is not just
protecting against cancer.
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Okay, but if we
actually have cancer.
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Okay, there are some
of the plant foods that
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have come out as
potentially helping
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to treat cancer and this is a
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kind of new
information. You know for years
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we have known that food can
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help prevent
cancer. But we have pretty
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much taught people that
once they get cancer the
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foods aren't important anymore.
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The horse is out of
the barn so to speak,
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and so we need to
go after that horse.
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With all sorts of
things and lifestyle isn't as
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important, we're now learning
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well that's not true.
The lifestyle that you
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change to after you
get cancer is critically
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important as to how long you
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might survive that cancer.
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So you've got your
arsenal of foods that,
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that can actually
treat cancer, what,
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what would you say
is, is one of those foods?
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Well, one of those
for prostate cancer for
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instance is pomegranate
juice, I think we have a
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graphic in regards
to pomegranate juice,
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this study was done
at UCLA, and you can see
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it was published in
May of 2005, it actually
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announced at that
time at the American
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Urological Association meeting.
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And now you can see a
picture on the screen of
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the actual Pomegranates.
This study was done on
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48 men and these
48 men had surgery
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or radiation
for prostate cancer.
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So they had, had some
advance prostate cancer
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and just 8 ounces of
pomegranate juice a day
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slowed the doubling
time in their prostate
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cancer by almost 2
years. It also significantly
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decrease the rise in
the PSA or the Prostate
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specific antigen and
this is the way if you've had
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prostate cancer or you
have a relative that has
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prostate cancer,
they're getting followed.
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Those are watching
this, that's right,
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that's a blood
test that they can do.
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Pomegranate juice
contains a number of
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antioxidants thought to
have anti-cancer effects.
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It contains estrogen
like plant substances called
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phytoestrogens
that could be useful in
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combating
prostate cancer as well.
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And so, it's
kind of amazing that's
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something as simple
as pomegranate juice can
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actually be a form of
treatment for prostate
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cancer and this is
something that's not
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going to harm you at all
there's no side effects in
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using pomegranate
juice, it's not gonna
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make you hair fall
out or anything like that
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in fact it might
even preserve hair.
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Because of its estrogen
like molecules in it so,
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I would recommend
any man who has a history
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of prostate cancer to
take advantage of this
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and drink a cup of
pomegranate juice a day.
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And you can get that I
have seen in the store,
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it's right there in
these little bottles and it's
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quite expensive, it
looks like to me, when I was
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in the store the last
time, but it's a lot less
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costly then the other
cancer treatments I'm sure.
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Yeah and it's
starting to come down
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in price because it's becoming
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more widely
available. So pomegranate juice,
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pomegranate juice,
yes. Interesting yeah,
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now there's also
something in regards to
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bladder cancer
that can be helpful.
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Now when people
have bladder cancer,
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often one of the
treatments that's used is BCG,
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it's actually put into
the bladder or injected into
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the system, BCG is
one those things that we
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used to use as a
vaccine for tuberculosis. Okay.
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But it can be deadly,
there are side effects of
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it and into the
bladder itself there have been
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deaths reported and
so we would really like a
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better treatment
for a bladder cancer,
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and one of the
treatments that emerged
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in a study recently,
was actually Mistletoe.
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Mistletoe, Mistletoe
is of course you know,
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it has its, where
you kiss your girlfriend
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under the tree
or something right.
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Well, if you wanna get
kissed, you go under the
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Mistletoe. Oh! I see,
that's the idea, okay.
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But after surgery
for superficial bladder
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cancer, what they
did was actually inject
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Mistletoe into the
Bladder, there are some
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substances in Mistletoe
that we were thought to
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potentially be a
treatment for bladder cancer.
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And in these thirty
patients, there were
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actually done in Germany.
This was a study in Europe.
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Their recurrence
rate was actually the same
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or little bit
better than using BCG,
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and there were no
side effects of the
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Mistletoe
injection. Mistletoe injection,
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I mean, I never
would have thought.
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Yes, now who came up with that,
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where they sitting
around one day and say
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I wonder if
Mistletoe works and may be
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there's an
analysis of the chemicals.
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Well, yeah that's
right, there's an analysis that
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takes place of the
chemicals first in the
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foods and then we look
in the laboratory dish to
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see if it can actually
destroy, actually we're
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looking for destructive
properties in cancer cells.
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And so, then after
that you do the clinical
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study to actually find
out, if that will work.
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Interesting, so
Mistletoe, Mistletoe, what else
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do you have up your sleeve here,
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we're talking
about Mistletoes and
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pomegranate juice
what, what else could
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be a treatment.
Well another treatment is
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know what your
cholesterol level is,
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okay, a lot of
people when they get cancer
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they say who cares
about my cholesterol,
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I need to get cancer
cured, I don't really care
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about heart disease.
But studies show that
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if you have a
high cholesterol level,
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particularly if you
have prostate cancer.
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Getting that cholesterol
level down can actually
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reduce your risk
of recurrence of the
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prostate cancer.
Okay, so high blood
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cholesterol can
make the prostate tumors.
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Yeah, I think we
have a graphic, graphic,
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on that, and this
graphic is, is quite interesting
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this was a study
done by Dr. Michael
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Freeman, the Journal of
Clinical Investigation in
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March, 2005,
showing that high blood
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cholesterol can make prostate
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tumors actually grow faster.
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And the test did
not suggest that high
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cholesterol actually
caused cancer, but did
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show that higher
levels of the blood fats fuel
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the prostate cancer growth.
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So when cholesterol is
lowered, prostate cancer
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growth actually
stopped significantly.
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And so I, again a
recent study showing that the
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same foods that
will help bring the
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cholesterol down
might actually stop the
00:13:05.36\00:13:08.95
progression of prostate cancer.
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So cholesterol,
you need to watch it,
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regardless of, if it's
before or after you get
00:13:12.83\00:13:15.97
the diagnosis.
You know, when we come
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back we're gonna take
a break here in a minute,
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but Dr. Nedley, what
I wanna be talking with
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you about is some of
the typical treatments,
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I wanna see what you
say about those as well.
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What about surgery?
What about radiation?
00:13:27.52\00:13:29.72
What about the things
we normally hear about?
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We're talking
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Welcome back, we're talking with
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Dr. Neil Nedley.
We're talking about cancer,
00:14:43.74\00:14:46.20
something that can
really get our attention.
00:14:46.57\00:14:48.70
And trouble as
greatly, and it is something to
00:14:49.22\00:14:52.07
be worried about.
And we're talking about
00:14:52.08\00:14:54.00
treatments and
before the break we talked
00:14:54.01\00:14:55.97
about several
treatments that come from the
00:14:55.98\00:14:58.95
plant kingdom, if
you will. We talked about
00:14:59.41\00:15:01.96
cholesterol, we talked
about pomegranate juice.
00:15:01.97\00:15:04.37
And, Mistletoe
extract, Mistletoe extract,
00:15:04.77\00:15:08.37
which was a shocking one for me,
00:15:08.38\00:15:11.13
I never heard about
that before, but you also
00:15:11.14\00:15:13.01
mentioned in the
break that sometimes green
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tea is healthful.
Yes, green tea not
00:15:15.23\00:15:18.10
because of caffeine for
say, 'cause caffeine is a
00:15:18.11\00:15:20.76
co-carcinogen, we'd
like the green tea have
00:15:20.77\00:15:23.10
the caffeine removed, it
has a substance in it and
00:15:23.11\00:15:26.53
it's abbreviated
from a long word EGCG,
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green tea has five
times as much EGCG as any
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other substance has
been found out there.
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And EGCG, binds on the
dihydrofolate reductase.
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Okay, and that's
what actually chemotherapy
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drugs attempt to do
sometimes in preventing
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the cancer from
multiplying and growing.
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Dihydrofolate
reductase is one of those things
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that will
accelerate cancer growth.
00:15:56.25\00:15:58.87
And so green tea
has been shown to reduce
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the risk of neural
cancers and actually it's
00:16:03.29\00:16:09.17
also been shown to
potentially help out in
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other types of cancer as well.
00:16:13.83\00:16:15.41
Now, one of things
we need to recognize
00:16:15.66\00:16:18.04
because EGCG can
bind on to dihydrofolate
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reductase it's not a
good thing for people to
00:16:21.79\00:16:24.23
consume when they're pregnant.
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Mess up the, because
it will mess up the growth
00:16:26.88\00:16:29.05
of the developing
fetus and it can actually be
00:16:29.06\00:16:31.21
associated with Spina
Bifida and other neural
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tube disorders,
but if you have cancer,
00:16:34.82\00:16:36.91
it's one of those things
that particularly if it's a
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cancer that might be
multiplying because of
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dihydrofolate
reductase, it maybe one of those
00:16:42.60\00:16:45.20
things that you
would wanna partake.
00:16:45.21\00:16:46.59
And green tea you
said, can you get the form
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that doesn't
have caffeine in it.
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Yes, you can get it
decaffeinated, a form of
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green tea and
still get same benefit,
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in fact even
greater benefit that way.
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Well, are there any
other plants that we
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should know
about, we have Mistletoe,
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we have green tea, we
have pomegranates, what else?
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Well, there's recent
study actually showing
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that the Feverfew
plant, at least one of the
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extracts from the
Feverfew plant can be
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very helpful in
blood cells malignancies,
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particularly
leukemia, and we have a
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graphic about this as well.
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Parthenolide is a
chemical derived from
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the fever few plant,
and it destroyed acute
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myeloid leukemia
cells, leaving normal bones
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marrow cells
relatively unscathed.
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And that's different
then chemo which is gonna
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also kill out the good
cells at least temporaring.
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Now the compound
actually seems to get at
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the root of the
disease because it kills stem
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cells that give
rise to not only Acute
00:17:49.83\00:17:52.96
Myelocytic
Leukemia but also Chronic
00:17:52.97\00:17:55.75
Myelocytic Leukemia
and both of those are
00:17:55.90\00:17:58.79
major leukemia
killers in our country.
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This agent that was
found to be much more
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specific to leukemia
cells then the standard
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chemotherapy
drug, which is Ara-C.
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And just about
everyone with these
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forms of
leukemia will get Ara-C.
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But these
compound from the Feverfew
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plant, more
important and more selective
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against the actually bad cells.
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And so again we're
uncovering treatments
00:18:22.79\00:18:25.40
that are in the
natural world that may be
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superior to some of
the chemical treatments
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that we derived. Now normally we
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wouldn't you know,
cut some fresh Feverfew
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for lunch or for
dinner. And so this is really,
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they are going out
and just looking at plants
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and, how do they
come up with the idea of
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which plants to study?
Well it again it's bench
00:18:43.69\00:18:48.34
research that helps to
determine this, but part
00:18:48.35\00:18:52.26
of the problem and
all of this, I think we
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would have been much
more far ahead of the
00:18:53.92\00:18:55.60
game if it wasn't for
some of the systems in
00:18:55.61\00:18:58.64
our economics.
Because the Feverfew
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plant is not
something that you can pattern.
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Okay, so you
can't make money off it.
00:19:05.15\00:19:07.47
And so, if you
can't pattern it, then you
00:19:07.79\00:19:10.45
know drug companies
aren't gonna be able to
00:19:10.46\00:19:12.05
easily make money off of it.
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Oh! I see. And so,
they tend not study these
00:19:13.55\00:19:16.08
natural compounds.
In fact, Dr. Aggarwal
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from MD Anderson
in Houston, one of the
00:19:20.35\00:19:22.77
largest cancer
treatment centers in the United
00:19:22.78\00:19:25.30
States recently he has
been studying turmeric.
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Turmeric is
another potent, it had some
00:19:28.91\00:19:32.80
potent chemicals in
it, that seem to go against
00:19:32.81\00:19:35.12
certain types of
cancer, in fact breast cancer,
00:19:35.13\00:19:37.87
melanoma even multiple myeloma
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and prostate
cancer, another, a number of
00:19:44.06\00:19:47.57
different cancers
turmeric seems to be
00:19:47.58\00:19:49.51
able to go
after. And what he has
00:19:49.52\00:19:53.03
been frustrated with is that no,
00:19:53.04\00:19:54.83
he can't get any
money from drug companies to
00:19:54.84\00:19:57.42
support his
studies. And so he said the
00:19:57.43\00:20:00.34
only place that he
can get money is from
00:20:00.35\00:20:02.85
the National
Institute of Health.
00:20:02.86\00:20:04.29
If they will you
know give him some money
00:20:05.45\00:20:08.79
for the study or
interestingly lately I'm
00:20:08.80\00:20:11.20
not sure how he's been doing it.
00:20:11.21\00:20:12.54
But lately he has
been getting money from the
00:20:13.17\00:20:15.97
defense department for
his studies, particularly
00:20:15.98\00:20:19.72
against breast
cancer and turmeric.
00:20:19.73\00:20:21.44
And, why would they
give money for that?
00:20:22.29\00:20:24.02
Well I think part of
the reason is, is because
00:20:24.03\00:20:26.26
they almost have
an unlimited budget at
00:20:26.27\00:20:28.92
present and so they
have some extra money
00:20:28.93\00:20:31.78
to go around, I see.
And so they have been
00:20:31.79\00:20:33.31
putting it forward
for something that's they
00:20:33.32\00:20:36.77
will safe lives
instead of destroy them.
00:20:36.78\00:20:38.70
Okay, right, well interesting
00:20:39.10\00:20:41.10
so turmeric as well.
Well, you know a lot of
00:20:41.11\00:20:43.78
these things
seem to be better than
00:20:43.79\00:20:45.72
you know or more
specific we're saying,
00:20:46.67\00:20:49.24
although having
the same affect in some
00:20:49.93\00:20:52.07
senses as chemotherapy
and radiation and what
00:20:52.08\00:20:55.44
not, it seems to be
even more specific but does
00:20:55.45\00:20:58.94
this mean that we
should, should maybe
00:20:58.95\00:21:00.77
do away with radiation,
chemotherapy and those
00:21:00.78\00:21:04.20
kind of things. Well not yet,
00:21:04.21\00:21:06.74
you know may be
eventually we'll have
00:21:07.93\00:21:09.56
better types of
chemotherapy but it's
00:21:09.57\00:21:11.80
not time yet to do
away with them and in fact,
00:21:11.81\00:21:14.24
you know surgery
needs to be the first line
00:21:16.07\00:21:18.28
treatments for cancer affects
00:21:18.29\00:21:19.96
it's a malleable to
that. And you know I have to
00:21:19.97\00:21:23.96
remind people
some people with cancer
00:21:23.97\00:21:25.67
mistakenly believe
that a surgery has done the
00:21:25.68\00:21:28.40
cancer is gonna
spread. And so I met people
00:21:28.41\00:21:31.49
that have a confined tumor for
00:21:31.50\00:21:33.16
instance to their
breast. And they refuse to have
00:21:33.17\00:21:37.98
surgery done, and
unfortunately that
00:21:37.99\00:21:40.43
breast cancer is
very likely gonna spread.
00:21:40.44\00:21:42.79
And you know, barley
green and those type of
00:21:44.20\00:21:46.55
things aren't gonna
be enough necessarily to
00:21:46.56\00:21:48.65
prevent it's spread.
Okay, and so I have to
00:21:48.66\00:21:51.29
remind them which
came first, sin or surgery.
00:21:51.30\00:21:54.06
Okay, and often they
will say well of course
00:21:54.84\00:21:58.05
sin came first but then
I have to tell them that
00:21:58.06\00:22:00.34
you need read the
book of Genesis again.
00:22:00.35\00:22:02.30
Well, that's right,
surgery came first and
00:22:02.93\00:22:04.49
both patients were
satisfied with the results.
00:22:04.50\00:22:06.91
Yeah, the man said
wow! Man, okay yeah
00:22:06.92\00:22:11.21
so, that was a
very affective surgery.
00:22:11.22\00:22:12.98
Very affective
surgery, and yeah that's a good
00:22:13.65\00:22:16.57
point, so surgery wasn't
part of the perfect world
00:22:16.58\00:22:19.64
before there was actually sin.
00:22:19.85\00:22:21.16
Anyhow there's
evidence that God can
00:22:21.17\00:22:23.80
guide the hand of the
surgeon and can really
00:22:23.81\00:22:25.78
help the surgeon
to remove that tumor.
00:22:25.79\00:22:29.85
And so as part of
the Christian treatment
00:22:30.52\00:22:33.93
I think surgery needs to
be considered as an option.
00:22:33.94\00:22:36.55
Now, if it's already
spread beyond the vital
00:22:36.56\00:22:38.29
organ and it's other
places and surgery may
00:22:38.30\00:22:40.36
not be of much
benefit. And so we might wanna
00:22:40.37\00:22:43.09
look at other treatments.
Okay, so treatment of
00:22:43.10\00:22:46.82
cancer, you say on
your next graphic you have
00:22:46.83\00:22:49.62
also comprehensive lifestyle.
00:22:49.63\00:22:52.03
Comprehensive Lifestyle
needs to be part of the
00:22:53.19\00:22:55.42
treatment we've
talked about that,
00:22:55.43\00:22:56.60
that's good
diet. And actually good
00:22:56.61\00:22:59.36
exercise, now one of
the studies show that
00:22:59.37\00:23:01.60
exercise reduces the
risk of recurrence of
00:23:02.52\00:23:06.13
cancer no matter, how
advanced that cancer is.
00:23:06.14\00:23:09.43
Turmeric or Curcumin,
that's one of the things
00:23:10.63\00:23:12.62
we recommend for,
since it seems to help a
00:23:12.63\00:23:14.83
lot of cancer,
that's part of the
00:23:14.84\00:23:16.16
comprehensive lifestyle.
But also surgery needs
00:23:16.17\00:23:19.17
to be considered and
notice that one up there,
00:23:19.18\00:23:21.16
radiation and then chemotherapy,
00:23:21.43\00:23:24.71
certain types
of chemotherapy can
00:23:24.72\00:23:26.46
virtually cure certain cancers.
00:23:26.47\00:23:28.36
And you know
lymphoma for instance,
00:23:29.11\00:23:30.68
seventy eight
percent chance of cure now,
00:23:30.69\00:23:32.67
where before it
was universally fatal.
00:23:33.51\00:23:35.24
And then we'll also
talk about the last treatment
00:23:36.27\00:23:38.82
which is also vitally important
00:23:38.83\00:23:40.85
and that is prayer.
Okay, so any of those
00:23:40.86\00:23:44.25
we need to you know
talk about little bit
00:23:44.26\00:23:46.28
more, well you
said surgery originated
00:23:46.29\00:23:48.73
before the fall of man.
What about the radiation?
00:23:49.40\00:23:53.08
Do you have any
Biblical metaphors
00:23:53.09\00:23:54.63
concerning that.
Well we know that
00:23:54.64\00:23:58.94
when our
protective layer went away
00:24:00.00\00:24:01.99
after Adam and Eve
sinned, that if we were
00:24:03.21\00:24:06.00
exposed to God
radiation, it would
00:24:06.01\00:24:08.19
actually destroy
us. But focal radiation
00:24:08.20\00:24:11.30
we want to destroy
certain cancers and for
00:24:11.31\00:24:13.97
instance a proton
beam radiation the
00:24:13.98\00:24:16.77
Loma Linda and
Harvard University
00:24:16.78\00:24:18.35
utilize can destroy
prostate cancer and it's
00:24:18.36\00:24:20.74
been very
effective. Other types of
00:24:20.75\00:24:22.72
radiations can kill
other types of cancers,
00:24:22.73\00:24:25.49
sometimes it's just a
treatment to prevent the
00:24:25.50\00:24:27.97
pain or to treat the
pain. And it's not curative but
00:24:27.98\00:24:32.62
when it's focal
sometimes radiation is
00:24:33.04\00:24:35.47
the best treatment
interesting Ellen White
00:24:35.48\00:24:37.53
who wrote a lot about health.
00:24:37.92\00:24:39.03
And healthful living
got cancer above her eye
00:24:39.97\00:24:43.35
and when she had
cancer, she underwent
00:24:43.84\00:24:46.53
x-ray treatment, 11 radiation
00:24:46.54\00:24:48.58
herapy
treatments. And when she died
00:24:48.59\00:24:51.42
years later the
cancer was not there it had
00:24:51.43\00:24:54.32
been cured or least in
remission as a result of
00:24:54.33\00:24:57.32
the radiation okay, so taking
00:24:57.33\00:24:59.90
nothing off the
table, surgical means,
00:24:59.91\00:25:01.87
radiation means, chemotherapy.
00:25:01.88\00:25:03.72
Chemotherapy, that
tends to be a little more
00:25:04.58\00:25:06.28
controversial,
'cause chemotherapy can kill
00:25:06.29\00:25:08.56
the good cells. And how
I look at it is again from
00:25:08.57\00:25:12.72
a Biblical
example, when the Amorites,
00:25:12.73\00:25:15.37
when the Israelites
wanted to go after the
00:25:15.38\00:25:17.01
Amorites at first,
the Lord said, no their
00:25:17.02\00:25:18.90
probationary period
is not up, but when their
00:25:18.91\00:25:21.03
probationary period was up.
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He said to wipe them
out entirely and that's
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because if they, any
of them were left behind
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they could
actually destroy the world,
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the entire world spiritually.
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And when you have
cancer diagnosed in
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your cells, I would
say the probationary period
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of your cells is up.
Those cells at least,
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those cells unless
those cells are destroyed that
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cancer will destroy
you, it will take your life.
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And so that means we
need to go to war and
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the Israelites would
lose some good people,
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some good soldiers in
those wars, that's what
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wars do sometimes,
that's why it's so bad.
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But if we kill out
the cancer cells in the
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process then the
life can be spared and the
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individual can live
for many years later and so
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it's good to ask the
question in regards to
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how curative chemotherapy is?
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And you know
sometimes the chance
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of cure is so low that
it's hardly worth and it's
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just gonna decrease the
quality of life, but if we
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have a high
likelihood of cure, let's take
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advantage of it.
What about the arsenal
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of prayer in the
armory against cancer,
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we leave it to the
last, but should we leave it
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to the last? We
shouldn't, anyone
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who has cancer
ought to utilize this.
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Spontaneous regression
of cancer it's abbreviated
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SCR, every episode of
spontaneous regression
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of cancer in the
medical literature has been
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associated with prayer.
Not just a prayer for the
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cancer cure, but
a prayer putting the
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individual into the will of God.
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None of those
people that were cured from
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cancer anticipated
they were gonna get cured,
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they had just put
their life into the hands of
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God and they were
shocked as anybody
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when the scans were
done and follow up and
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they had no cancer
and they're still living.
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And so, I would
recommend for anyone
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who has cancer, this is
the time to get your life
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right with God
and put your entire
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life into the will of God.
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And probably,
prayer is also preventive,
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once you say, so
it's something that should
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be part of the
lifestyle even before.
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That's right, part of
the habitual lifestyle and
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asking the Lord to
help us through every means.
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We've been talking
with Dr. Neil Nedley,
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we talked about
cancer, it's a very troubling
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diagnosis for many
but we have found that
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there is hope,
that there is help.
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And we've looked
at some of the plant
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sources, we've looked
at some of the traditional
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means of stopping,
eliminating, curing cancer.
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We hope that
this program has been
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helpful to you and
that you will take a moment,
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put your life again in
God's hands through prayer.
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