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Hello and welcome to
Health for a Lifetime.
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I'm your host Don
Mackintosh and today
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we're gonna be
talking about cancer.
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Here to talk with us
is Dr. Neil Nedley, he is
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a specialist in
Internal Medicine and he is
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from Ardmore,
Oklahoma. Welcome Dr. Nedley.
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Thank you Don. Now
you, you do internal
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medicine, you do a
lot of different things
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under that rubric,
one of the things is the
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things like you're
doing today education,
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and we're talking
about, today about
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cancer and that
kind of strikes fear in
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people's hearts,
should it? Absolutely, yeah
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cancer is a deadly
disease and it often
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disfigures and really
humiliates significantly
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before that death
occurs. And is it the leading
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cause of death, where is it now?
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Yeah, depending
on how you look at,
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it could be the
leading cause of death.
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Coronary artery
disease used to be
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considered the
leading cause of death.
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There are less cases
of that then there use to
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be, but there are
more causes of cancer
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and so in some
estimations cancer
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now is number one,
over 550,000 deaths
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per year in this
country just due to cancer.
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And there is, you
know there's warning
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sings like
bleeding and unusual bladder
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habits and all those
different kind of things.
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We talked about
that in our previous
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program, but I
think you know as we just
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began here, we're not
gonna focus on that as
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much, but we're gonna be talking
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about the immune
system on what we
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have to defend
against it in this program.
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But lets just
briefly mention that people
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should be aware of
the warning signs and
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the screenings,
what are some of those?
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Well warning
signs would be unusual
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bleeding or discharge,
change in bowel or bladder
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habits, thickening of
the breast, difficulty
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in swallowing or
indigestion, that's a
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big warning
sign actually because
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reflect is so
common and Esophageal
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cancer is on the
rise. Okay. Then as far as
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screening colonoscopies?
At age 50 stool slide
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test, for
microscopic blood at 40,
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for women
mammograms, Pap smears.
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For men PSA test
and then physical exams
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where there is
tension to the thyroid,
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the lymph nodes,
ovaries, testicles.
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What about Thermograms?
Thermograms, yes actually
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the Thermograms can
have less radiation to
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them however
there is new mammography
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now that only has
about 1/50th of the
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radiation of
previous mammograms,
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and so if you get
modern mammography really
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there isn't a concern
that there used to be.
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We're gonna talk
today about things
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that people can
do once they know the
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warning signs, of
course avoiding the
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Carcinogens
themselves like smoking and
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alcohol and meats
and all these different
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things that we
put into our systems.
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Polluted areas,
we talked about fish,
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we talked about
how they you know are
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seen to be drawing
all the pollutants in the
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streams, but we wanna talk about
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protective foods? Yes
you know interestingly
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no matter how
much we try, we can't
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completely avoid
all Carcinogens and
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that's why we
really need to focus on the
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immune system.
And I recently saw a
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cartoon of a horse
lying in a hospital bed
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and there was an IV
going into the horse,
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that said Chemotherapy
and the caption said
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all those years
with the Marlboro man.
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So yeah, in another
words you, you can't
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avoid everything.
You got to be, there's
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gonna be people in
your environment that
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or the situations
that I'm not saying people
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out there are cancer
causing, but it's gonna
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be situations that
you need to be looking at
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protective elements in foods.
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Yes, absolutely and
in another ways it's not
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just foods, but one of
the greatest protective
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elements actually
are the Carotenoids.
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Carotenoids. Yeah
Carotenoids are what
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turns your
tomatoes red or strawberries
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red, actually there
are orange Carotenoids as
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well, and the
Carotenoids also in
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green vegetables.
And Carotenoids actually
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decrease the
tissue line in cancers,
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so cancer of the lung
being a tissue lying of
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the bronchial
tubes is decreased.
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Cancer of the mouth and
oral cavity is decreased.
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And there is
evidence showing cancer of the
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breast or any other
lining tissue cancer.
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The cancer of Endothelium or the
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Epithelial layers. So
that's that outer layer
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like if you're
looking in there is just that
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layer right here. That's right.
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And all these
are protecting that.
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That's right, the
Carotenoids protect
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from developing
cancer. And that's only a one
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cell layer isn't it?
That's right, often it's
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just a one cell
layer. Correct. Okay.
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So, we have a
graphic actually describing
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the foods that are
high in Carotenoids and
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you can see mixed
vegetables, pretty
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good source, that's
78 percent of the RDA or
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they recommend daily
amounts for Beta Carotene.
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Getting above a
100 is even better.
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Cantaloupe just the
half of a Cantaloupe
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86 percent. Sweet red
bell pepper if you eat
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a whole one of
those, a 135 percent of the
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RDA of Beta
Carotene. Sweet potato, again
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being that
orange color loaded with
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Beta Carotene 249
percent for a medium
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baked sweet
potato. Cooked pumpkins
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271 percent, raw
carrots a cup 309
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percent, but notice
the cooked carrots have
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even more, the
cooking of the carrots
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actually breaks
down some of the fibers
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membranes and allows more Beta
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Carotene into the
system and then the
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highest source are
orange yams, peeled
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after baking
one cup 436 percent.
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And this is gonna,
if you eat those that's
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gonna be protecting that layer.
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Exactly, wow,
yeah. And many cancers
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form in the
Epithelium. Great, any other
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protective food
we should know about?
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Vitamin C foods, Vitamin
C is a potent antioxidant.
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Okay. Antioxidants
will protect against
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the number of
cancers actually Vitamin C
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not only can
protect you from cancer,
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but also your
offspring if you're a male.
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A study show
that males who are not
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getting 250
milligram of vitamin C per day
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their sperm can be
genetically damaged,
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even though they
don't have bad gene
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themselves, their sperm can be
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genetically
damage and that damaged
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sperm can increase
the risk of cancer of
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the kidney, and
cancer of the nervous system
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and even lymphoma
in their children.
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And many people
don't realize that
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cancer is the second
leading cause of death
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in children, and
many of those cancers are
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not from the
children's lifestyle
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habits, but the
lifestyle habits of the parents.
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So what we
realty need to get the
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message out, any
man who is reproductive
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and wanting to have children
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needs to get enough Vitamin C.
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Well the Pastor did
a lot of pre-marital
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counseling maybe I
should give them Vitamin C.
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There you go.
Alright, so foods that are high
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in Vitamin C then.
We have a graphic on
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that is well. Okay.
And the foods that are
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high in Vitamin C
are listed on the screen,
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Broccoli, with
Vitamin C you wanna
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have it raw,
cooking is gonna destroy
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about half the
Vitamin C, so you can
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see Broccoli raw
is gonna have more,
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an half cup 41
milligrams. Sweet green bell
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pepper 66
milligrams, just one orange will
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have 70 milligrams
of Vitamin C, but many
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people are unaware
that small kiwi has
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even more, 75
milligrams of Vitamin
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C and the
strawberries are loaded, one cup
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82 milligrams of
Vitamin C. Grapefruit higher yet
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94 milligrams.
Brussels sprouts are
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loaded, they are
so loaded that even if
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they're boiled, one
cup is gonna have 98
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milligrams. That's
a hard sell for me.
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Orange juice fresh one cup 124
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milligrams and
sweet red bell pepper one
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medium 141 milligrams.
A lot of people don't
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realize red bell
pepper is not only high in
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Beta Carotene, but
very high in Vitamin C.
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Now regards to
orange juice, what
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type of orange
juice you think would have
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more Vitamin C in
it. The orange juice
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that's ready to
serve, that you buy off the
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shelf or the orange
juice that comes from
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the orange
concentrate? Boy, I would say
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probably off the shelf
because they added to it.
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Well, false, off the
shelf if it stays there
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for a while, yeah,
just keeping it on the shelf
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is going to
deactivate the Vitamin C.
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I knew that, but
I was just saying
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you're trying to
trick me. And so if you are
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there you know if
it's been there a week or
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two you're gonna have a lot less
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Vitamin C, so the
orange concentrate
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would be able to
preserve that or if you
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freshly squeeze
that orange juice would
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even be better than
the orange concentrate.
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Boy, a kiwi and
some orange juice.
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But, I wanna tell
you I'm gonna avoid the
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Brussels sprouts
myself, but the other
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stuff there I just love it all.
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Yeah, well you can
avoid several of those
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foods and still get
your 250 milligrams a day.
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Okay, any other
vitamins we need that
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are protective
especially with cancer?
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Vitamin E is very
important in protecting cancer.
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Vitamin E is
actually a more potent
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antioxidant than even Vitamin C.
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And Vitamin E in
foods has been shown
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to reduce
prostate cancer and also
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actually skin
cancer. One interesting study
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in rabbits, a hairless
strain of rabbits where
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ultra light was
shown down on them,
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so much so that 24
percent of them got
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skin cancer within a few weeks.
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If the rabbits were
fed extra Vitamin C and E
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none of them got
skin cancers, so C seems
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to work with E in
helping to prevent
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skin cancer. And we
have a graphic on the
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foods that are
high in Vitamin E.
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Kind of feel sorry
for those hairless rabbits
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and rats or whatever there,
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but let's look at our list.
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Alright, yeah I
do too with those,
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that was the
study. Soybean oil, one
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tablespoon 23
percent of the RDA of
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Vitamin E for one
day, just ten almonds
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would have 27 %, love almonds.
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Almonds are
perfect for Vitamin E.
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Canola oil, one
tablespoon 30 percent
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of the RDA. Almond
butter of course it's
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concentrated then
that would a good source,
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sunflower seeds are
an excellent source,
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just one tablespoon
42 percent of the intake
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of Vitamin E.
Good news for a Kansan
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like me. Yeah,
absolutely. And then
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there are other
foods that are higher yet,
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the sunflower oil
of course being more
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concentrated and
wheat germ oil an
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excellent source and that really
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underscores the need to
eat the whole wheat bread.
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If you're eating the
white bread you're not
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getting the Vitamin
E. So it sounds like it
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from the list that the
concentration is in the
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oil of those foods.
That's true, Vitamin E
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is a fat soluble
vitamin and so tends
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to come with the fat of plants.
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You're really not
gonna get it in the fat
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of the animals or say
near that, unless they
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have eating a lot of plants.
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Well even then not
near as high as getting
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it directly from
the plants. Sure,
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and I was talking
to a man that you know
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works for a huge
manufacturing plant
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in the Mid West
that makes soybean oil
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and he was telling me
that, that a soybean or
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excuse me sunflower
seed, yeah, sunflower
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oil and all that
stuff, high concentration in
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those, in those
seeds, yeah, you can see that
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there as well.
Vitamin E is very important
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there, and by the way
don't be afraid of the
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food-grade canola.
There's a lot of people
00:12:13.43\00:12:16.18
out there saying
canola is the cause of
00:12:16.19\00:12:17.77
mad cow disease and
it's really tractor oil
00:12:17.78\00:12:19.98
and that type of
thing. There is a type of
00:12:19.99\00:12:22.47
rapeseed oil that is
used for tractors and
00:12:22.48\00:12:24.66
it's now food-grade,
but they've gotten that
00:12:24.67\00:12:26.78
confused and
they think that's what
00:12:26.79\00:12:28.29
people are eating off
the shelf and that's not
00:12:28.30\00:12:31.16
true, canola has been
shown to be a healthy oil.
00:12:31.17\00:12:32.97
So really the food,
this produce department in
00:12:33.11\00:12:36.09
the supermarket is
like a friend of mine
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says the department of defense.
00:12:38.91\00:12:40.99
Absolutely. If
you wanna go there and
00:12:41.38\00:12:43.96
get tooled up.
Yeah. We wanna talk about
00:12:43.97\00:12:45.69
antioxidants and all
these different things
00:12:45.70\00:12:47.69
when we comeback
and look more fully at
00:12:47.70\00:12:49.91
that, but looking
at the warning signs,
00:12:49.92\00:12:52.82
avoiding the Carcinogenic foods,
00:12:52.83\00:12:54.64
having your
screening as well, but then
00:12:55.33\00:12:57.07
going and
enhancing the immune system
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with these protective
foods that's the message.
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That's the message,
and of course there's
00:13:02.36\00:13:03.80
other some
protective foods as well.
00:13:03.81\00:13:05.56
Selenium foods
actually are protective too.
00:13:05.57\00:13:08.34
We're talking with
Dr. Neil Nedley, we're
00:13:08.91\00:13:10.30
talking about how
to protect yourself
00:13:10.31\00:13:12.52
against cancer.
That's good news that God
00:13:13.15\00:13:15.53
has provided
fruits and vegetables and
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nuts as well that
can be protective.
00:13:18.12\00:13:20.09
When we comeback
we're gonna look at
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the antioxidants,
join us when we comeback.
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Welcome back we're
talking with Dr. Nedley
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about cancer. The bad
news is a lot of people
00:14:28.05\00:14:31.16
are getting cancer,
but the good news is there
00:14:31.17\00:14:32.70
are things you can
do to protect yourself
00:14:32.71\00:14:34.54
against it. Thanks so
much for being with us.
00:14:34.55\00:14:37.02
Thank you Don,
it's great to be here.
00:14:37.35\00:14:38.66
In our first half
we're talking about
00:14:38.67\00:14:40.10
protective foods,
we're talking about
00:14:40.11\00:14:41.44
vitamin C, we said
we should probably had
00:14:41.45\00:14:43.90
mentioned that in
marriage counseling,
00:14:43.91\00:14:45.38
because the male can
protect his offspring
00:14:45.39\00:14:49.78
from cancer
fascinating and then also the
00:14:49.79\00:14:52.62
Vitamin E largely
in the plant oils and
00:14:52.63\00:14:55.61
that's protective as
well. You also mentioned
00:14:55.62\00:14:57.52
the Selenium. What's Selenium?
00:14:57.53\00:14:59.10
Selenium is a trace
mineral and it's in the
00:14:59.59\00:15:02.55
soil and it's
found primarily in wheat
00:15:02.56\00:15:06.03
products and seeds.
Particularly the wheat
00:15:06.04\00:15:09.08
grown in the
Dakotas is loaded with
00:15:09.09\00:15:11.25
Selenium and that
prevents colon cancer.
00:15:11.26\00:15:14.00
So, we wanna talk
now about so called
00:15:14.65\00:15:17.16
antioxidants is
that like something like
00:15:17.17\00:15:19.96
that's against
oxygen. Are you against
00:15:19.97\00:15:22.32
oxygen Dr. Nedley?
Well no, oxygen is a
00:15:22.33\00:15:25.34
very good thing.
But to get your tissues
00:15:25.35\00:15:28.13
oxidized is not a good
thing. Alright, so tell
00:15:28.14\00:15:30.94
me, what's that
mean. You're a biochemist
00:15:30.95\00:15:32.66
major? Yeah O2 is
great but O3 is not
00:15:32.67\00:15:37.13
great when you
bring it in. O3 is ozone
00:15:37.14\00:15:40.54
and ozone if you put
it into the system that
00:15:41.81\00:15:45.45
free oxygen off of
the O2 is like a free
00:15:45.46\00:15:49.34
radical and so
it bounce around and
00:15:49.35\00:15:53.01
bang up things, and
actually get into genes
00:15:53.02\00:15:56.48
and help change the genes.
00:15:56.49\00:15:57.82
So, so the antioxidants are
00:15:58.26\00:16:01.14
protecting against
O3? Exactly, and other
00:16:01.15\00:16:04.35
types of
substances that can actually
00:16:04.36\00:16:07.56
oxidize the
tissues or cause cancer.
00:16:07.57\00:16:09.90
So let's go back to
the department of defense,
00:16:10.09\00:16:12.05
we're in the food
section, right, and
00:16:12.06\00:16:13.89
we're gonna
look at antioxidants,
00:16:13.90\00:16:15.34
you're gonna help us to that?
00:16:15.35\00:16:16.36
Yes, interestingly
a cup of kale has 50
00:16:16.96\00:16:22.25
milligrams of
Vitamin C, wow, and 13 units
00:16:22.79\00:16:26.25
of vitamin E. But if
you take a look at the
00:16:26.26\00:16:29.56
antioxidant
potential of a cup of kale,
00:16:29.57\00:16:33.02
it's actually equal
to 800 units of vitamin E
00:16:33.79\00:16:38.70
and 1100
milligrams of vitamin C.
00:16:38.71\00:16:41.74
So in another
words the whole plant
00:16:42.76\00:16:45.04
actually super seeds
by far the sum of its
00:16:45.64\00:16:49.28
component parts as far as
the antioxidant potential.
00:16:49.29\00:16:52.48
And that's why it's
much better than you
00:16:53.12\00:16:55.52
know then giving
them Vitamin C at
00:16:55.53\00:16:57.80
marriage counseling
a bottle of Vitamin C
00:16:57.81\00:17:00.20
would be giving them a
whole cup there of kale.
00:17:00.89\00:17:04.93
You know I think maybe
that something we're gonna do.
00:17:05.80\00:17:08.08
Well the University
of California at Berkeley
00:17:10.64\00:17:12.54
went the next step and
actually took a look at
00:17:12.55\00:17:15.86
the top ten antioxidant fruits.
00:17:15.87\00:17:19.02
Okay, let's look at
those. And we have them up
00:17:19.03\00:17:22.12
on the screen as a
graphic, but number
00:17:22.13\00:17:25.24
one I usually like
to start number ten,
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go the other way
around, but number
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one is strawberry, oh
that's good news for me.
00:17:29.68\00:17:31.89
Strawberry very
important antioxidant fruit.
00:17:31.90\00:17:34.79
Plum, a lot of
people don't think of,
00:17:34.80\00:17:36.77
you know they think
of plums being rather
00:17:36.90\00:17:38.71
humble fruit, but
they're actually very
00:17:38.72\00:17:41.44
important
antioxidant. Orange is number
00:17:41.45\00:17:43.68
three, red grapes
will all there bio-flavor
00:17:43.69\00:17:45.95
and it's number
four. Kiwi number five,
00:17:45.96\00:17:47.97
grapefruit six,
white grapes not quite as
00:17:47.98\00:17:50.40
good as red grapes,
but still very good.
00:17:50.41\00:17:52.20
Banana is number 8,
apples following line
00:17:52.81\00:17:56.03
there at number nine
and they rated tomato
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as a fruit and
that is number ten. Wow.
00:17:58.65\00:18:02.25
Tomato has been
shown particularly to
00:18:02.26\00:18:04.17
help prevent prostate cancer.
00:18:04.18\00:18:05.59
So this because of I guess the
00:18:06.52\00:18:08.71
red pigment or something in it?
00:18:08.72\00:18:10.05
Yeah the red pigment
in tomatoes lycopene,
00:18:10.69\00:18:12.84
those with the
highest levels of lycopene in
00:18:13.25\00:18:15.18
their blood
stream from fruits and
00:18:15.19\00:18:16.60
vegetables have
the lowest rates of
00:18:16.61\00:18:18.22
Pancreatic cancer
in the world and also
00:18:18.23\00:18:20.63
lower rates of prostate
cancer and other cancers.
00:18:20.64\00:18:22.59
So strawberry, all
these things are kind
00:18:23.07\00:18:25.21
of red there is white
too, but these are the
00:18:25.22\00:18:28.83
Antioxidants. So
take this list with you
00:18:29.11\00:18:31.08
when you go to the
store the next time if
00:18:31.09\00:18:32.42
you wanna be
protected. Absolutely. But the
00:18:32.43\00:18:34.17
big message is kale
right? Well kale is a vegetable
00:18:34.18\00:18:38.03
and so they went and
ranked the vegetables
00:18:38.04\00:18:40.18
as well, and I
should mentions they did not
00:18:40.19\00:18:42.21
rank the legumes and
if they had done that
00:18:42.22\00:18:46.19
some of the
legumes may have come out
00:18:46.20\00:18:47.78
even on top of
some of the vegetables,
00:18:47.93\00:18:49.91
because beans we
know are loaded with
00:18:49.92\00:18:52.24
a number of
different antioxidants you
00:18:52.25\00:18:54.52
know chemicals in
them. They are made in the
00:18:55.50\00:18:58.17
formation of the
legume. But let's take a look at
00:18:58.18\00:19:01.44
the graphic on the top
ten antioxidant vegetables.
00:19:01.45\00:19:04.44
Okay. Number one garlic, garlic.
00:19:04.45\00:19:09.08
Very potent
antioxidant vegetable,
00:19:09.50\00:19:11.23
actually it has
some antibacterial,
00:19:11.24\00:19:12.98
antiviral property,
has been shown to also
00:19:12.99\00:19:15.48
help prevent heart
disease as well as cancer.
00:19:15.49\00:19:17.62
Kale comes in as
number two and I'm
00:19:17.92\00:19:20.60
happy about that, kale
is actually my favorite
00:19:20.61\00:19:22.45
green at least the way
Erica makes it at home.
00:19:22.46\00:19:24.95
Spinach, it is good
advice to follow your
00:19:24.96\00:19:29.06
grandma when she
said to eat your spinach.
00:19:29.07\00:19:31.26
Number four
Brussels sprouts, number five
00:19:31.80\00:19:33.89
Alfalfa sprouts, number six is
00:19:33.90\00:19:36.26
Broccoli, seven
beets, eight red bell pepper,
00:19:36.27\00:19:40.39
we've been talking
about that as far as its
00:19:40.40\00:19:42.09
vitamin E and C potential.
Nine is onion and ten corn.
00:19:42.10\00:19:46.56
Corn, not corn chips,
not corn chips, but the
00:19:46.81\00:19:50.21
whole corn. So these
foods are back to kale
00:19:50.22\00:19:53.88
and all those others,
they're just excellent.
00:19:53.89\00:19:55.95
Yeah, yeah and
they are excellent and
00:19:56.49\00:19:59.72
that's why the American Cancer
00:19:59.73\00:20:00.91
Society continues
to recommend to people
00:20:00.92\00:20:03.06
to eat their
fruits and vegetables.
00:20:03.86\00:20:05.64
Now when you were
telling that some of
00:20:05.65\00:20:07.04
these are just higher
in the substances then
00:20:07.05\00:20:10.75
medications or
other things you can get,
00:20:10.76\00:20:12.69
why aren't that,
these not just being touted
00:20:13.12\00:20:15.68
even more and more
like when you go to
00:20:15.69\00:20:17.33
your physician,
here's a bowl of strawberries
00:20:17.34\00:20:19.46
and gives them to you, why not?
00:20:19.47\00:20:21.07
It should, really
should be, it should
00:20:21.53\00:20:23.31
be part of health
education to inform
00:20:23.32\00:20:25.93
people that the
produce section can
00:20:25.94\00:20:28.19
prevent them from
actually suffering a
00:20:28.20\00:20:30.46
horrible death, I mean
cancer is a horrible death.
00:20:30.47\00:20:32.82
It's often and
very painful, and these
00:20:32.83\00:20:35.38
fruits and
vegetables and study after study
00:20:35.39\00:20:37.91
have been shown to prevent it.
00:20:37.92\00:20:39.25
You were telling
me that there was some
00:20:39.62\00:20:40.89
research being done
on tumeric, but it was
00:20:40.90\00:20:43.25
not funded, but
you know these agencies
00:20:43.26\00:20:46.65
that usually fund
things for health.
00:20:46.66\00:20:48.43
Was funded by I
think the department of
00:20:48.44\00:20:51.03
defense or something.
Right. But the studies
00:20:51.04\00:20:54.58
on these foods,
there's not a lot of study,
00:20:54.59\00:20:56.47
because you can't
really what, market it?
00:20:57.19\00:21:00.60
Well, what I was
describing to you was
00:21:00.93\00:21:03.62
not just the
cancer prevention studies.
00:21:03.63\00:21:05.81
The cancer
prevention studies are done
00:21:05.82\00:21:07.48
through epidemiology,
so the study of disease
00:21:07.49\00:21:10.20
groups and then the
study of what they ate
00:21:10.21\00:21:12.37
or what
lifestyle habits they had.
00:21:12.82\00:21:14.94
Where we can't
get the funding is
00:21:15.38\00:21:18.25
in the treatment. I
see. And so if we're using
00:21:18.26\00:21:20.91
plant foods to
treat cancer, there is no
00:21:20.92\00:21:23.93
pharmaceutical
company who is going to invest
00:21:23.94\00:21:26.17
in that, because you
can't pattern a plant.
00:21:26.18\00:21:28.65
You know no one can
plant a strawberry and
00:21:28.66\00:21:30.50
says it belongs to
Pfizer. You can't pattern
00:21:30.51\00:21:33.87
turmeric, because
it's a natural product.
00:21:33.88\00:21:36.12
I see. And so
what Dr. Aggarwal at MD
00:21:36.27\00:21:40.64
Anderson of
Houston would say, was that
00:21:40.65\00:21:43.80
he can't get
funding for studies and his
00:21:43.81\00:21:46.02
studies are
showing turmeric, not only
00:21:46.03\00:21:48.16
preventing, but
actually treating breast cancer.
00:21:48.17\00:21:51.41
Treating a
multiple myeloma, treating a
00:21:52.56\00:21:56.28
number of different
cancers that are very
00:21:56.29\00:21:58.18
difficult to treat
and he's having success
00:21:58.19\00:22:00.39
with that, at least
in animal studies and
00:22:00.40\00:22:03.69
he's wanting to
branch over human studies,
00:22:03.70\00:22:05.65
but he's having
trouble funding it,
00:22:06.06\00:22:07.41
because you can't
get it from companies and
00:22:07.94\00:22:10.19
you have to try to
get it from the U.S.
00:22:10.20\00:22:11.54
Government and
his arm of the U.S.
00:22:11.55\00:22:13.08
Government and
help him fund his last
00:22:13.09\00:22:14.74
turmeric study was
the department of defense.
00:22:14.75\00:22:16.74
Amazing, okay so
you know, you know we
00:22:17.65\00:22:20.55
talk about the plant
sources, I want to just
00:22:20.56\00:22:22.07
add one of the questions some
00:22:22.08\00:22:23.84
companies are taking
these phytochemicals,
00:22:23.85\00:22:27.12
these antioxidants
and they are putting them
00:22:27.49\00:22:29.55
into pill form
and different things.
00:22:29.56\00:22:32.00
Is there anything to that?
00:22:32.29\00:22:34.13
Well, in pill
they're gonna be good too.
00:22:34.91\00:22:36.81
But if you want
to get tomorrow's
00:22:37.28\00:22:39.78
phytochemicals
that have been shown to
00:22:40.02\00:22:42.08
prevent cancer, you
will get it in today's
00:22:42.09\00:22:44.23
fruits and
vegetables, because that's where
00:22:44.24\00:22:46.12
they get it from,
and so I recommend
00:22:46.13\00:22:48.79
eating the fruits
and vegetables, because
00:22:48.80\00:22:50.11
there's probably
even other beneficial
00:22:50.12\00:22:51.59
properties besides
the lycopene in the C and
00:22:51.60\00:22:54.05
the E that we don't know about.
00:22:54.06\00:22:55.41
Fiber, all those
little things we do know
00:22:55.42\00:22:57.29
about this, but
other things as well that
00:22:57.30\00:22:59.22
maybe good for us. Correct.
00:22:59.23\00:23:00.57
Okay, so we're
talking about the immune
00:23:00.96\00:23:02.98
system here.
We've talked about the
00:23:02.99\00:23:04.30
protective foods,
we talked about vitamin
00:23:04.31\00:23:06.99
C, we talked about
vitamin E, we talked
00:23:07.00\00:23:09.27
about the fruit
that were antioxidants,
00:23:09.28\00:23:11.47
we talked about the
vegetables that were
00:23:11.48\00:23:13.29
antioxidants,
anything else for boosting the
00:23:13.30\00:23:15.85
immune system?
Exercise, physical
00:23:15.86\00:23:17.69
exercise actually
will improve endorphin
00:23:17.70\00:23:21.17
level, it will
actually boost natural
00:23:21.18\00:23:23.96
endorphin levels. Endorphin is a
00:23:23.97\00:23:25.68
chemotherapy agent
that we use in certain
00:23:25.69\00:23:27.89
types of cancers
but your own white blood
00:23:27.90\00:23:30.66
cells make it and
it will make more by
00:23:30.67\00:23:33.23
vigorous
exercise, also improving the
00:23:33.24\00:23:36.71
interleukin levels.
It improved interleukin
00:23:36.72\00:23:38.67
one, interleukin
two and it's also been
00:23:38.68\00:23:40.52
shown to improve
natural killer cells.
00:23:40.53\00:23:42.75
Natural killer
cells don't work by the
00:23:43.28\00:23:45.01
antibody system
which was another
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system of the immune
defense that the body
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has, but seem to
be able to sniff out
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cancer cells and destroy it.
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It's actually still
a mystery as to how the
00:23:52.94\00:23:55.40
natural killer
cells work, but we do know
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that exercise improve
natural killer cells and
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can even double the amount.
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Okay, so if your
exercise is making
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your, your killer
cells just mean lean fight
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machines, they can
sniff better, they can,
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they can find
what's causing the problem.
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Yes, absolutely
and so we recommend
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Aerobic physical
exercise on a daily
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basis, including a
vigorous exercise and
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a lot of people may
not feel fit enough to
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do that, but if
they alternate vigorous
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exercise with like
rest or slow exercise
00:24:23.62\00:24:26.61
maybe 40 seconds
each, they can get that
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vigorous
exercise and still benefit
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from a great deal.
What about obesity?
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You know I've
heard that someone who is
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obese has a
constant state of kind of
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inflammation or
infection, is that true,
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is this something
want to try and avoid?
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No, it is true,
obesity suppresses the
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immune system as
well and that's why
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there have been
a number of cancers
00:24:46.02\00:24:47.55
associated with
obesity. Cancer of esophagus,
00:24:47.56\00:24:50.58
cancer of colon,
prostate, breast,
00:24:50.59\00:24:52.44
lymphoma and the
list goes on in regards to
00:24:53.30\00:24:57.17
obesity and its role
in helping bring about a
00:24:57.18\00:25:02.39
cancer probably do to
it's oppressing effect
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on the immune system, but there
00:25:04.76\00:25:05.93
maybe some
other factors as well.
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Okay, exercise, obesity anything
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else with our immune system?
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One of the things
about obesity is to
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realize the new way
of finding out whether
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you're obese or not. Okay.
00:25:16.13\00:25:17.74
You know of course
you can step on the
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scale and that can
give you a clue if you
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pinch here and
you're and you're pinching
00:25:21.98\00:25:25.33
more than an inch, that's an
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indicator you're obese.
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Now, I'll do it right here.
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Well we're gonna talk about it.
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Dr. Scharpenberg
says, you can lay
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down here on the
floor and if you put
00:25:36.11\00:25:38.74
your chin down
and you can't see your
00:25:38.75\00:25:40.32
feet, that's a
sign that you're obese.
00:25:40.33\00:25:42.48
But actually the new
scientific way is to do
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a waist to hip
measure. You put a measuring
00:25:46.17\00:25:50.62
tape around your
waist above where
00:25:50.63\00:25:52.78
your bones are at
and I used to say that
00:25:52.79\00:25:55.39
above the bones, but
really a lot of people
00:25:56.26\00:25:58.61
would miss their
waist measurement if
00:25:58.62\00:26:00.93
they didn't also
include the naval in
00:26:00.94\00:26:02.67
that, but some
people's naval is way
00:26:02.68\00:26:04.35
down here. So you
wanna put the naval
00:26:04.36\00:26:06.70
in that waist
measurement and then
00:26:06.71\00:26:08.61
the denominator is
the hip measurement and
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that's where the
bones are at, and so if the
00:26:11.16\00:26:13.92
waist to hip ratio,
yes, is greater than 0.8
00:26:13.93\00:26:18.74
and you're a woman
you have an increased
00:26:19.70\00:26:22.70
risk of all the
cancers that I have mentioned
00:26:22.71\00:26:25.07
earlier that are
associated with obesity.
00:26:25.08\00:26:26.96
You also have an
increased risk of
00:26:27.46\00:26:28.61
diabetes, high blood
pressure, heart disease.
00:26:28.62\00:26:31.04
If it's greater
than 0.95 and you're man
00:26:31.05\00:26:34.08
you have an
increased risk of all
00:26:34.59\00:26:35.82
those cancers as
well. Because really when
00:26:35.83\00:26:38.97
you're that obese
there, the problem is
00:26:38.98\00:26:41.24
not what it looks
like on the outside,
00:26:41.25\00:26:42.54
but what's inside,
all of the fat around all
00:26:42.55\00:26:45.14
those organs.
Exactly, the abdominal obesity
00:26:45.15\00:26:47.87
is where the
risk is at and that's
00:26:47.88\00:26:49.48
what this is
measuring. Well we've learned a
00:26:49.49\00:26:53.31
lot about the most
important section of
00:26:53.32\00:26:57.09
the supermarket
today. Yes. And you know
00:26:57.10\00:27:00.70
people are
usually walking right past
00:27:00.71\00:27:02.40
that, going to the
diary section and the
00:27:02.41\00:27:04.41
meat section and
choosing the first
00:27:04.42\00:27:06.38
section in the
store. So you really don't
00:27:06.39\00:27:07.99
even have to shop as
long man, if you take
00:27:08.00\00:27:10.68
this to heart, but
do take it to heart.
00:27:10.69\00:27:12.56
This is very
important. Dr. Nedley, thank you
00:27:12.87\00:27:15.17
so much for being
with us today to talk
00:27:15.18\00:27:16.72
about our immune system and the
00:27:16.73\00:27:18.89
department of
defense. Is there a spiritual
00:27:18.90\00:27:21.49
lesson you draw from this?
00:27:21.50\00:27:22.56
Well there is a
spiritual, we sin is
00:27:22.81\00:27:25.75
spiritual cancer
and we need to have
00:27:25.76\00:27:28.31
cancer warning
signs, we need to have
00:27:28.32\00:27:30.26
screening test for
sin like David did and we
00:27:30.27\00:27:32.66
need to have prevention where we
00:27:32.67\00:27:34.16
avoid spiritual
carcinogens and also
00:27:34.17\00:27:36.74
avoid, boost our
spiritual immune system
00:27:36.75\00:27:39.68
and then that would
give us life eternal.
00:27:39.94\00:27:42.18
Good advice. Thanks
so much for joining us
00:27:43.40\00:27:45.13
today and we hope
as a result of today's
00:27:45.14\00:27:47.03
program you're gonna
go to the supermarket
00:27:47.04\00:27:48.57
and buy those
foods, protect yourself,
00:27:48.58\00:27:50.62
protect your kids, your family,
00:27:50.63\00:27:51.87
your friends and we
hope that God richly
00:27:51.88\00:27:54.20
blesses you, and you
have health that lasts
00:27:54.21\00:27:56.48
for a lifetime and
you know him as well.
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