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Hello and welcome to
"Health for A Lifetime."
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We're glad you joined us today
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and today we're gonna
be talking about a disease
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that strikes fear
in the heart of people
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who hear the word
and that's cancer.
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And talking with us
today is Dr. Neil Nedley.
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He is a specialist in internal
medicine from Ardmore, Oklahoma.
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And you see a lot of
people that have cancer.
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Yes, actually I diagnose
it almost on a daily basis.
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What is cancer exactly?
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Cancer is a change
in the genetic material,
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something gets into the gene
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and actually changes the
cell into an abnormal cell
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but the body doesn't
recognize it as being abnormal
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and so it's allowed to
grow and multiply and spread.
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And then it causes problems
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because it cuts
off supply to this
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or that and gets in the way?
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That's right.
What is the impact of--
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of cancer on this
nation and around the world?
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Well, we have a
graphic that actually shows
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the statistics on the
impact. It's pretty incredible.
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One out of every
two men will get it
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at some point in their life.
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One out of every
three women will get it.
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And one out of every four deaths
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in this country is
currently from cancer.
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And that's pretty phenomenal
and that's not talking
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about just the
benign skin cancers,
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many of the skin
cancers, the squamous cell
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and the basal
cells are not harmful
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and they could be
easily removed and detected.
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But this is talking about
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the life
threatening varieties of cancer.
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And so many
people just think that
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they have to hope that
they don't get this disease
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but they don't realize there's
a lot of things they could do.
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Now they could prevent them
from getting it down the road.
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So this is like almost
now the number one killer.
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Usually, we talk about
heart disease being number one.
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Has cancer
surpassed heart disease?
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Well, if you look
at just the statistics
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on coronary artery disease,
cancer has surpassed it now.
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If you take a look at the cause
of coronary artery disease,
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which is atherosclerosis
which would involve stroke
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and a lot of
kidney failure etcetera,
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atherosclerosis would
still be above cancer.
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But if you're just
looking at the artery disease
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affecting the heart,
cancer is now number one.
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And you're saying that
these are the big cancers
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you're talking about in terms
of impact in these statistics.
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It's not you said basal
cell or squamous cell or--
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Right 'cause virtually, I mean,
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a whole lot of
people will get those
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just as a result of
aging and being outdoors.
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Is that--is this
including melanoma
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that you're talking about?
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Yes. This would be
including melanoma.
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Melanoma we would include
as a life-threatening cancer.
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Sure, I mean, yeah,
that's a huge problem.
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Okay, then so
we've seen the impact.
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Maybe we should
talk about warning signs?
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Yes, absolutely,
because many people
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ignore the warning signs
and then run into trouble.
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In fact, just last week,
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I had a patient ignore
one of these warning signs
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for over a year and
was absolutely shocked
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when he finally found
out that he had cancer.
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He just had no clue.
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And if he would've actually come
to us at the first sign of this,
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we probably could've spared him
some very dis-forming surgery
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that he is now
gonna have to undergo.
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So these warning signs
would be like not watching
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the traffic lights or
going in the wrong way
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in a one-way street
when it doesn't look like
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there's anyone there
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but then all the
sudden traffic jam comes.
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Exactly. Okay.
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We have a graphic on the
warning signs as well. Okay.
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And there're seven
different cancer warning signs.
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A change in
bowel or bladder habits
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and that can occur either
way you can have constipation
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or you could go into diarrhea
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and if that persists that
really needs to be checked out.
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Change in bladder
habits can occur either way,
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either increase in
frequency or decrease.
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A sore that does not heal.
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Would be the
second cancer warning sign
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and sores are supposed to
heal after a couple of weeks
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and if they don't,
need to be checked out.
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Unusual bleeding or discharge.
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Now this is the one
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that my patient
ignored for over a year.
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He attributed it to hemorrhoids.
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And now is severely
disappointed at himself.
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Thickening of a
lump in the breast
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or elsewhere is the
fourth cancer warning sign.
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And that--this is
why we recommend women
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actually check
theirs breast monthly.
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Indigestion or
difficulty in swallowing.
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This highlights the fastest
rising cancer in the U.S.
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which is cancer
of the esophagus.
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And if you've had indigestion
for more than five years,
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it needs to be checked out.
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If you have any
difficulty in swallowing
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where the food kinda
hangs up before it goes down,
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that needs to be checked out.
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Or obvious change
in a wart or a mole
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that would also
need to be checked out.
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A change in its color
or in its size or shape.
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Nagging cough or hoarseness.
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After a cold, it's of course
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common to have that for
maybe two or three weeks.
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But if that goes on for
more than two or three weeks,
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it really needs
to be checked out.
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So all of these warning
signs you probably have stories
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about people that
have neglected these.
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Absolutely. And you
talked about the one
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that was having
unusual discharge
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or bleeding with hemorrhoids
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and you've seen the others with
the coughing--nagging cough?
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Yes, we have. Some people put
up with a cough for six months,
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you know, before
getting checked out.
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And what's that usually sign
of cancer of a nagging cough?
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Often cancer of the
lung or the bronchial tubes
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supplying the lung, could be
cancer of the larynx as well.
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Yeah, go through
these warning signs again
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and just tell me
what kind of cancer
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maybe would be
associated with them.
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Well, the change in bowel habits
would be cancer of the colon.
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That's the second
leading cause of cancer.
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Change in urinary habits
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could be cancer of
the bladder or the kidney.
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The change in a wart or mole
that's going to be melanoma,
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the type of skin cancer--
Talk about that a little bit
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because I think
it's really important
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and lots of people
have warts or moles.
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A dermatologist the other
day said if you have 30 or more,
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you know, warts or these
moles or different things
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you're at higher
risk, 50 for sure
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but what kind of
changes are you looking for?
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Well, we're looking for a
change in color, change in size,
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or change in the
actual shape of the mole.
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And so that's what we--
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Size, shape, or
color, okay. Yeah.
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And some of the other
warning signs we mentioned?
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Yeah, the thickening, the breast
of course is breast cancer
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but notice it also
said lumps elsewhere.
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Many people can get lymphoma
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or can get a cancer
that affects the lymph glands
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and so they might get
enlargement in the neck area,
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here is where
we check for nodes,
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under the arm is
where we check for.
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Even the groin area,
there can be lymph nodes there,
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little bumps that crop up
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and if those bumps crop up it
really needs to be checked out.
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Yeah, so any unusual thing.
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And is that true breast cancer
is even a problem for men?
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Yes, 1% of breast
cancers are in men
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and so it's a good idea
for men to check it as well.
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Fortunately,
it's easier to check
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because they're not as
big or pendulous in a man
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but it's a good idea
just to do that ever so often.
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So these are just like the
traffic lights that tell us,
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say, if it's flashing
take a look and check it out.
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We've talked about the impact.
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We've talked
about warning signs.
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Probably what you're saying
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then is that
screening is very important?
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Screening is important
simply because most people
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even if they follow
the cancer warning signs
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are gonna still end up with
cancer spread to vital organs
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before the first
warning sign develops.
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Okay, so this means even though
look for the warning signs but--
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The warning signs are
not we're it's all at.
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In fact, about 5% of
cancer deaths could be spared.
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And that's significant 'cause
there's over 500,000 deaths.
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So we're talking 25,000 peoples
lives could be spared every year
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if they would pay attention
to warning signs. Okay.
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cancer deaths
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and so that doesn't
take care of the other part.
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And so that's why the American
Cancer Society recommends
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screening and screening means
you have no symptoms at all.
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You're feeling
great. You're looking great.
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And here you're having
to undergo a test to see
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whether you have early
cancer and that can save lives.
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Okay, so what kind of
screenings? All right.
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We also have a graphic
in regards to the screening.
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Physical Exam
is a screening test
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with attention to
the thyroid, lymph nodes,
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oral cavity, skin,
testicles, and ovaries.
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Those are the things
that should be checked
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at least every
two or three years,
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in some instances more often.
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A stool slide test
for microscopic blood
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is recommended in
anyone over the age of 40.
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And then a sigmoidoscopy
or actually a colonoscopy.
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Colonoscopy would be better
at checking the entire colon
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since colon cancer is the second
leading cause of cancer death.
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That should occur at age
50 if you have no symptoms.
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And then every five years maybe
if you have a whole colonoscopy
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and it's negative you could
wait 10 years for your next one.
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PSA test for men
is recommended now
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over the age of 50
in an annual basis.
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And then in women
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there are
additional cancer warning signs
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that I don't think we
have the graphic on that.
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But the breast exam once
a year after the age of 40--
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By a clinician. By a
clinician and then mammography
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after 40 about every two
years after 50 every year.
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In women, it's also recommended
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that they undergo a pelvic exam
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and Pap smear
actually at the age
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that sexual activity begins.
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And the reason for
that is that cervical cancer
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is a sexually
transmitted disease.
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It's transmitted by
Chlamydia 7% of the time,
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papillomavirus, the other 93%.
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And there's only
two groups of women
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who are not at risk
for cervical cancer.
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And that is women
who've obviously been single
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and not had sexual relations
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or the other group
of women would be women
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who've had a monogamous
relationship with a man for life
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and that man has also had
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a monogamous
relationship with her
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and she would not be at risk.
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And of course
today in our society
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that would signify the
minority of adult women
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and so that's why the
Pap smear is recommended.
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Couple of things,
sigmoidoscopy you said
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which is I guess that part of
the colon not the entire colon
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but just the sigmoid part.
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Yeah, it's the first 60
meters from the anus on up.
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That's where about 60% or
70% of colon cancers occur.
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Someone told me
that African-Americans
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they don't see
their colon cancers
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diagnosed by just a sigmoid
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because it's on
the other side usually?
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Well, and also you know
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white Americans and
Asian Americans too.
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Thirty percent of cancers
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won't be
detected in the sigmoid.
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And actually I would
prefer that that recommendation
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by the American Cancer
Society be updated to include
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the entire colon
'cause I've had people.
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In fact, I just had a
white Minnesota person
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passing through town on
his way back to Minnesota
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for the spring he
wintered in Southern Texas.
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And he got a bowel blockage.
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And he'd had his
sigmoidoscopy screenings.
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He had done all the screenings
that were recommended.
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And he'd never
had surgery before
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so when he'd a bowel blockage,
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I thought uh-oh and we
went and put a scope in there
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and sure enough he
had a cancer in the cecum
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that was
blocking his small bowel.
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And it already
spread to vital organs.
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And so very disappointing
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and so it's better to
get the full screening test
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in my mind which
would be the colonoscopy.
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So again the
warning signs are things
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that might be too late already
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I mean 'cause
the warning is there
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but the screenings are
kinda like a helicopter
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going over the, you
know, looking all over to see
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if there is traffic jams here
and there that you couldn't see
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just driving
down the road of life.
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And these things are
just important to do.
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We're talking
with Dr. Neil Nedley.
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We're talking about cancer.
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We've had some
excellent advice here
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this first half in terms of
warning signs and screening.
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I hope that you are
following through on this.
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It might not be a bad
idea to jot these things down
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and talk to your
physician about them today
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and get these things scheduled.
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When we come
back, we're gonna talk
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a little further
about how to avoid cancer.
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Join us when we come back.
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Welcome back we're
talking with Dr. Neil Nedley.
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We're talking about cancer.
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First half we
talked about warning signs
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and then we talked about how
00:14:36.30\00:14:37.67
to screen for
these things as well.
00:14:37.70\00:14:39.73
And, Doctor, you were
saying during the break to me
00:14:39.76\00:14:41.52
that if you watch
for those warning signs
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you can take care
of about 5% of cancers
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which is a large amount
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if there's 500,000
people a year that have cancer.
00:14:48.17\00:14:50.38
And then you also
talked about screening.
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What's the
percentage with screening?
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What kind of percentage
would be avoiding cancer
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if they did the screenings?
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About another 5% so
about another 25,000 lives
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could be spared every year
by undergoing cancer screening
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and so together those
two would be able to avoid
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over 50,000 deaths per year.
Now you have the stomach here.
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You were saying that one
of the most common things
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is to pick up on this
again one of the most common
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cancers is a
cancer of the esophagus,
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the cancer of the
what is this, a stomach?
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Yes, this is the stomach
but the fastest growing cancer
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in America right now is
occurring right in here.
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And that is the
cancer of the esophagus,
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the bottom
portion of the esophagus.
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And you can see
actually on the screen
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how the color of
that esophagus is changed.
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Normally, that color is a
pale color like up in here.
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But that color
down there is a change
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in the lining of the esophagus
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and that change is
called Barrett's esophagus.
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Barrett's esophagus.
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Barrett's esophagus is
a precancerous condition.
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That will lead to
cancer in many cases
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and Barrett's is
actually caused by reflux.
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Reflux so in
other words heartburn?
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That's right
heartburn, acid coming
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from the stomach area
up into the esophagus.
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Now the stomach is
supposed to have acid
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'cause that's
where digestion occurs.
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But there's a
sphincter here that's supposed
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to stay closed so that acid
doesn't come back up in here
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but when acid does
come back up in there
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over the course
of months and years
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that mucosa can change
into Barrett's esophagus.
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While we're down in my stomach,
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what was that little
red thing down there?
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That little red
thing is a peptic ulcer.
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Okay, well, we may want
to take care of that too.
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But let me ask you
how did you get down
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into my stomach to look at this?
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Through a
scope. Through a scope.
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And does that scope come
this way or the other way?
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No, it comes through the mouth.
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And so we give you
medicines so you're sleeping.
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We come down with a scope
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about as big around
as my little finger here.
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And so we can go down in here
00:16:48.50\00:16:50.84
and find the
Barrett's esophagus.
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You do this in your
office or on the road?
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We do it in the hospital setting
or in an endoscopy center.
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All right. So you give
someone a little something
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to knock him out and
then look down there.
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And this should be checked
if you're having heartburn
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for how long did you say?
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If you've had heartburn
for more than five years,
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it is recommended that you
have an endoscopy to make sure
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you don't have that
premalignant condition.
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And if you don't deal with this,
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how deadly is esophageal cancer?
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Very deadly,
death within six months
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in the vast majority of case.
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If you're lucky, you may
live a year after diagnosis.
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And that's why we're trying
to catch it in the preface.
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If we catch it in the preface,
we can do something about it.
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And a lot of people just cover
their heartburn and indigestion.
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In fact, if you've
had to take, you know,
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over the counter
Prilosec or Pepcid,
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or antacids on a
regular basis and you think,
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"Well, I don't
have that much heartburn
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'cause I'm taking
these drugs that isn't--
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You're masking
the symptom. Exactly.
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So, yeah, after you
start eating at the right times
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and everything if
you're still having heartburn,
00:17:54.64\00:17:56.01
that's a real sign.
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In other words, if
you're eating late at night
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and the curse doesn't
come causeless the Bible says.
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But if you're
eating the right time
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and you still have
that that's even probably
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more of a warning
sign. What do you say?
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Yeah, absolutely.
So cancer, you know,
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we've talked
about the warning signs.
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We talked about screening
but is it true or false that,
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I mean, each of us have
to encounter cancer cells
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each day in our own body?
00:18:16.31\00:18:17.74
Is that true or is
that false? I've heard that.
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Well, not
necessarily cancer cells.
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They may be
getting closer to that.
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There's kind of a gradation just
like with Barrett's esophagus
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going to pre-cancer
and then the cancer.
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There is dysplastic
cells that can occur
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that are not
necessarily frank cancer cells
00:18:34.30\00:18:36.62
that our body can
sniff out and destroy
00:18:36.65\00:18:40.20
through its own immune system.
00:18:40.23\00:18:41.73
Well, let's talk
about that because I think
00:18:41.76\00:18:43.13
prevention is
probably the key here.
00:18:43.16\00:18:44.67
And so it's a lot
easier to get out of a--
00:18:44.70\00:18:48.91
avoid a traffic jam
than to get into one.
00:18:48.94\00:18:50.68
So that's why we sent
00:18:50.71\00:18:52.08
the helicopter up
for the screening.
00:18:52.11\00:18:53.48
And the warning signs we put on
00:18:53.51\00:18:55.05
our CB radios
and our walky talkies
00:18:55.08\00:18:56.79
but what about
preventing it all together?
00:18:56.82\00:18:59.74
What kind of things can we do?
00:18:59.77\00:19:01.14
Well, there's two primary ways
00:19:01.17\00:19:02.54
that we can prevent cancer.
00:19:02.57\00:19:04.12
One is by avoiding carcinogens
00:19:04.15\00:19:05.78
and the other is by
boosting the immune system.
00:19:05.81\00:19:07.96
So avoiding the carcinogens
is another way of saying cancer
00:19:07.99\00:19:10.88
causing agents
and what would those--
00:19:10.91\00:19:12.48
be those things
that we need to avoid?
00:19:12.51\00:19:14.66
Number one carcinogen
is tobacco in any form
00:19:14.69\00:19:18.43
and so whether it's
chewed or whether it's smoked,
00:19:18.46\00:19:21.23
it has
carcinogenic substances in it
00:19:21.26\00:19:24.35
and it can cause
cancer of the lung,
00:19:24.38\00:19:26.04
the lip, the throat, the
mouth, the esophagus actually.
00:19:26.07\00:19:31.14
What we just talked about
twice is likely in smokers,
00:19:31.17\00:19:34.21
stomach twice is likely,
00:19:34.24\00:19:35.72
a liver cancer is
twice is likely in smokers,
00:19:35.75\00:19:38.87
cancer of the kidney and bladder
four to eight times is likely,
00:19:38.90\00:19:41.48
cancer of the
pancreas twice is likely,
00:19:41.51\00:19:44.26
even cancer of the penis in
men significantly increased.
00:19:44.29\00:19:48.69
So that's the entire what
they'd call alimentary canal
00:19:48.72\00:19:51.37
everywhere that goes. Yeah.
00:19:51.40\00:19:53.32
And even though
you're not inhaling
00:19:53.35\00:19:55.02
into your stomach
somehow it gets there.
00:19:55.05\00:19:56.69
Exactly, it goes
through the bloodstream.
00:19:56.72\00:19:58.59
Okay. So those are
the carcinogens to avoid--
00:19:58.62\00:20:02.17
But it's one
carcinogen-- And its effect.
00:20:02.20\00:20:04.32
What's another one?
Another one that the world
00:20:04.35\00:20:06.94
is largely not aware
of is alcohol. Alcohol?
00:20:06.97\00:20:10.05
Yes, alcohol actually increases
00:20:10.08\00:20:12.57
the risk of
esophageal cancer as well.
00:20:12.60\00:20:15.03
It also increases the risk
of liver cancer significantly.
00:20:15.06\00:20:18.81
And it also
increases the risk of
00:20:18.84\00:20:21.18
the throat cancers,
the pharyngeal cancers.
00:20:21.21\00:20:24.33
Most of those
cancers occur in those
00:20:24.36\00:20:25.89
who are drinking
alcohol regularly
00:20:25.92\00:20:28.38
in rather large amounts
00:20:28.41\00:20:30.72
what would normally
be considered alcoholism.
00:20:30.75\00:20:33.91
But there're two forms of cancer
that do not occur in alcoholics
00:20:33.94\00:20:37.16
but significantly increase
00:20:37.19\00:20:38.81
the risk in just
moderate drinkers.
00:20:38.84\00:20:40.85
And one of those
is breast cancer.
00:20:40.88\00:20:43.26
Over 100 studies
now have documented
00:20:43.29\00:20:45.69
that alcohol increases
the risk of breast cancer.
00:20:45.72\00:20:49.48
And it is incredible that even
00:20:49.51\00:20:52.86
one drink every
15 days in a woman
00:20:52.89\00:20:55.14
can increase the risk
of breast cancer by 60%.
00:20:55.17\00:20:57.87
Sixty percent just
one drink every 15 days.
00:20:57.90\00:21:00.39
So just do not drink
at all is the message?
00:21:00.42\00:21:02.97
Yeah, absolutely and you know,
00:21:03.00\00:21:04.52
what amazes me is that even
though that information is clear
00:21:04.55\00:21:09.82
and over 100 studies
documenting this worldwide
00:21:09.85\00:21:13.11
when those studies come
out the evening news channels
00:21:13.14\00:21:16.40
do not broadcast
those studies. Yeah.
00:21:16.43\00:21:19.18
When there is a study
that comes out showing
00:21:19.21\00:21:21.09
that maybe heart disease
is decreased a little bit
00:21:21.12\00:21:23.50
'cause alcohol
will raise the HDL
00:21:23.53\00:21:26.13
that is broadcast
on the evening news
00:21:26.16\00:21:28.38
and so alcohol--
the media uses a filter
00:21:28.41\00:21:32.45
in reporting the alcohol studies
00:21:32.48\00:21:34.39
and I think its unconscionable
that they're doing
00:21:34.42\00:21:37.23
that because many
people don't recognize
00:21:37.26\00:21:40.49
that they maybe trading
one disease for another.
00:21:40.52\00:21:42.46
In fact, if you
drink enough alcohol,
00:21:42.49\00:21:44.02
you get cirrhosis of the liver.
00:21:44.05\00:21:46.76
You only have 25% chance
of dying of heart disease
00:21:46.79\00:21:49.55
compared to some of
the general population
00:21:49.58\00:21:51.45
but you traded it for cirrhosis
00:21:51.48\00:21:53.70
and many people are trading it
for cancer and don't realize it.
00:21:53.73\00:21:56.61
Well, I say Dr.
Nedley for the evening news.
00:21:56.64\00:22:00.49
Okay, so we have
tobacco. We have alcohol.
00:22:00.52\00:22:03.12
Any other things
we want to avoid?
00:22:03.15\00:22:04.52
Caffeine. Okay.
00:22:04.55\00:22:05.92
Caffeine increases reflux.
00:22:05.95\00:22:07.32
It weakens that
esophageal sphincter
00:22:07.35\00:22:09.60
and causes acid to come up in--
00:22:09.63\00:22:11.35
That's a growing
cancer of the stomach.
00:22:11.38\00:22:14.18
We want to decrease
that by not having caffeine.
00:22:14.21\00:22:16.22
Yes, caffeine
is a co-carcinogen,
00:22:16.25\00:22:18.45
meaning if you have
other carcinogens around,
00:22:18.48\00:22:20.56
it's a lot easier
for the carcinogen
00:22:20.59\00:22:24.67
to get into the
genetic material.
00:22:24.70\00:22:26.31
Caffeine will augment that.
00:22:26.34\00:22:28.01
And so caffeine
has been associated
00:22:28.04\00:22:29.47
with cancers of
the pancreas as well as
00:22:29.50\00:22:32.78
cancers of the
urinary bladder and esophagus.
00:22:32.81\00:22:36.47
So goodbye all those
heavily or even partially
00:22:36.50\00:22:40.59
or even what about
just tiny bit of caffeine?
00:22:40.62\00:22:43.80
Well, tiny bit of caffeine
we would also recommend against.
00:22:43.83\00:22:48.40
It has addictive potential.
00:22:48.43\00:22:51.09
And also we would recommend
00:22:51.12\00:22:53.63
in the esophagus
recommending against the decafs.
00:22:53.66\00:22:57.06
The decafs have tannins in it
00:22:57.09\00:22:58.64
that can do the same
thing that the caffeine does.
00:22:58.67\00:23:00.70
Won't cause cancer of
the pancreas or bladder
00:23:00.73\00:23:03.68
like the caffeine is associated
with so it's a better step.
00:23:03.71\00:23:06.74
It would be better if
you want to, you know,
00:23:06.77\00:23:09.01
simulate
caffeine to use something
00:23:09.04\00:23:11.79
that is gonna be totally
00:23:11.82\00:23:13.19
non-carcinogenic
like postum or aroma.
00:23:13.22\00:23:15.79
What about flesh foods,
00:23:15.82\00:23:17.19
meats those kind of
things, are those carcinogenic?
00:23:17.22\00:23:19.44
They are. Okay.
00:23:19.47\00:23:20.84
Actually clear cut now
through a number of studies
00:23:20.87\00:23:23.67
but Harvard University did
a nice study on meat intake
00:23:23.70\00:23:27.83
and colon cancer and
we have a graphic on that.
00:23:27.86\00:23:30.40
This study was done
by Dr. Walter Willett
00:23:30.43\00:23:33.05
and notice those
that were eating meat
00:23:33.08\00:23:35.41
just one time a month had a 39%
increased risk of colon cancer.
00:23:35.44\00:23:40.00
Thirty nine percent of the colon
00:23:40.03\00:23:41.40
and that's number two cause
of death in America you said.
00:23:41.43\00:23:43.26
Number two
cause of cancer death.
00:23:43.29\00:23:45.21
Two to three times a
week it increases to 50%.
00:23:45.24\00:23:48.85
And then five or six times
a week, 84% increased risk.
00:23:48.88\00:23:54.01
And if you're eating
meat on a daily basis,
00:23:54.04\00:23:56.27
you know, lot of people
think they're doing good
00:23:56.30\00:23:57.99
'cause they don't eat
meat maybe two meals a day
00:23:58.02\00:23:59.86
but they're gonna
eat it that one meal,
00:23:59.89\00:24:01.80
149% increased
risk of colon cancer.
00:24:01.83\00:24:05.20
Dr. Willett stated
that there was no safe
00:24:05.23\00:24:07.64
level of meat intake as far
as colon cancer is concerned
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but he also
stated the more often
00:24:11.12\00:24:12.83
it's consumed
the higher the risk.
00:24:12.86\00:24:15.15
And this is any meat not
just red meat? That's right.
00:24:15.18\00:24:17.63
His study was on red meat
but then Loma Linda University
00:24:17.66\00:24:20.34
did a study two
years later on white meat
00:24:20.37\00:24:22.97
and showed the same association.
00:24:23.00\00:24:25.06
Same number, same percentage?
00:24:25.09\00:24:26.46
Yeah, well, they
were roughly the same
00:24:26.49\00:24:28.92
actually eating
chicken just once a month
00:24:28.95\00:24:31.19
also dramatically increased.
00:24:31.22\00:24:32.59
There was more than 39%.
00:24:32.62\00:24:33.99
It was like 80% increased risk
00:24:34.02\00:24:35.51
if you eat chicken
just one time a month.
00:24:35.54\00:24:37.53
Well, so doing this is just like
heading into the traffic jam.
00:24:37.56\00:24:40.85
Heading into the
traffic jam, absolutely.
00:24:40.88\00:24:43.10
It's like putting bull's
eye in the side of your car.
00:24:43.13\00:24:45.50
And it would be bad enough
if it just caused colon cancer.
00:24:45.53\00:24:48.49
But it also has been implicated
in cancer of the breast
00:24:48.52\00:24:52.23
the more often its consumed,
00:24:52.26\00:24:54.03
lymphoma dramatically
related to meat intake,
00:24:54.06\00:24:57.03
cancer of the esophagus,
related to meat intake,
00:24:57.06\00:24:59.93
cancer of the pancreas
related to meat intake,
00:24:59.96\00:25:02.89
cancer of the
endometrium in women
00:25:02.92\00:25:05.90
and animal protein
even dairy products
00:25:05.93\00:25:08.80
have been associated
with cancer of the ovary.
00:25:08.83\00:25:11.67
This might seem
like an obvious question.
00:25:11.70\00:25:13.07
But do you eat meat? I don't.
00:25:13.10\00:25:15.84
What about
cancer of the prostate?
00:25:15.87\00:25:17.73
Cancer of the
prostate also yes. Good point.
00:25:17.76\00:25:20.10
In fact, a number of studies
00:25:20.13\00:25:21.53
and that's one of the
most well studied associations
00:25:21.56\00:25:24.23
between meat intake
and animal fat intake.
00:25:24.26\00:25:28.37
In particular, it's
the animal fat intake
00:25:28.40\00:25:30.15
whether it's from
meat or from diary
00:25:30.18\00:25:32.78
that can help bring it about.
00:25:32.81\00:25:34.79
And some people
have taken advantage
00:25:34.82\00:25:37.54
of that thing in
New York City you know,
00:25:37.57\00:25:41.22
the PETA group, which we
don't necessarily hardly endorse
00:25:41.25\00:25:44.80
but they had a milk
mustache on Mayor Giuliani
00:25:44.83\00:25:47.60
and put "Got prostate
cancer" on the billboard
00:25:47.63\00:25:51.61
and the City of New York removed
00:25:51.64\00:25:54.30
that billboard
shortly afterwards but--
00:25:54.33\00:25:56.21
Yeah, I'm sure they did.
00:25:56.24\00:25:57.61
What about fish?
Fish can also do it.
00:25:57.64\00:26:00.41
In fact, fish is one
00:26:00.44\00:26:01.81
of the highest
levels of pesticides.
00:26:01.84\00:26:03.36
And our last
graphic has to do with fish.
00:26:03.39\00:26:06.76
Fish used to be a
healthy food 100 years ago,
00:26:06.79\00:26:09.09
but with our
modern society lake water
00:26:09.12\00:26:12.03
has 0.02 parts per
million of DDD in it.
00:26:12.06\00:26:15.21
Phytoplankton living in
the DDD contaminated water
00:26:15.24\00:26:17.63
five parts per
million, the herbivorous fish
00:26:17.66\00:26:19.64
that eat the phytoplankton
40 to 300 parts per million,
00:26:19.67\00:26:22.95
and the carnivorous fish up to
2500 parts per million of DDD.
00:26:22.98\00:26:26.70
That's a very unsafe
level. It can cause cancer.
00:26:26.73\00:26:29.71
It can also cause
mental health problems.
00:26:29.74\00:26:31.87
And what we are
finding is with mercury
00:26:31.90\00:26:34.33
and with other
contaminates in the water,
00:26:34.36\00:26:37.38
it's concentrated up to 1,000
00:26:37.41\00:26:39.44
or million fold
in the fat of fish.
00:26:39.47\00:26:41.52
Wow, so this-- water
because it's polluted
00:26:41.55\00:26:45.48
and all the stuff, the fish is
just no longer healthy to eat.
00:26:45.51\00:26:49.21
Right and so you
really need to get--
00:26:49.24\00:26:50.61
fish has some
healthy things like Omega 3,
00:26:50.64\00:26:53.10
but it's better to get
the Omega 3 from plant sources
00:26:53.13\00:26:55.30
where you don't have
that biomagnifications.
00:26:55.33\00:26:57.72
We've been talking
with Dr. Neil Nedley.
00:26:57.75\00:26:59.93
Thank you so much by the way
00:26:59.96\00:27:01.33
for coming talking
with us about cancer.
00:27:01.36\00:27:03.90
And thank you for what
you're doing with your patients.
00:27:03.93\00:27:06.95
You know, it
sounds like you do a lot
00:27:06.98\00:27:09.07
of education with your patients.
00:27:09.10\00:27:10.78
Yeah, it's very
important you know,
00:27:10.81\00:27:12.88
we can clean up
some of the messes there
00:27:12.91\00:27:15.17
but we can turn the faucet off,
00:27:15.20\00:27:17.15
only the patient can do that.
00:27:17.18\00:27:19.12
And you probably
talked to that patient
00:27:19.15\00:27:20.53
about turning the faucet off
quite often through education.
00:27:20.56\00:27:23.40
Don't you? Absolutely.
00:27:23.43\00:27:24.80
Now we can't
avoid all carcinogens,
00:27:24.83\00:27:26.37
but we should look
for the warning signs?
00:27:26.40\00:27:28.70
Well, and we
should also try to avoid
00:27:28.73\00:27:30.74
as much of the
carcinogens as we can,
00:27:30.77\00:27:32.53
the less the carcinogen load,
the less the risk of cancer.
00:27:32.56\00:27:36.19
But that also
underscores the importance
00:27:36.22\00:27:38.09
of boosting the immune system,
00:27:38.12\00:27:39.87
the second-pronged
approach in preventing cancer.
00:27:39.90\00:27:42.78
We've been talking
with Dr. Neil Nedley.
00:27:42.81\00:27:44.57
Do not just
dismiss this program.
00:27:44.60\00:27:47.20
Follow through on
these warning signs,
00:27:47.23\00:27:48.96
get these screenings done.
00:27:48.99\00:27:50.80
Show this tape to
your friends and relatives.
00:27:50.83\00:27:53.15
We want you to have
health that lasts for a lifetime
00:27:53.18\00:27:55.25
but more than that
have a relationship with God
00:27:55.28\00:27:58.05
and it can last for eternity.
00:27:58.08\00:28:00.00