The following program presents principles 00:00:01.98\00:00:03.32 designed to promote good health and 00:00:03.33\00:00:05.42 is not intended to take the place of 00:00:05.43\00:00:06.89 personalized professional care. 00:00:06.90\00:00:08.74 The opinions and ideas expressed are those 00:00:09.62\00:00:11.72 of the speaker. Viewers are encouraged 00:00:11.73\00:00:13.96 to draw their own conclusions about 00:00:13.97\00:00:15.65 the information presented. 00:00:15.66\00:00:16.95 Hello and welcome to Health for a Lifetime. 00:00:50.42\00:00:51.66 I'm your host Don Mackintosh, 00:00:51.67\00:00:52.93 and today we're gonna be talking with 00:00:53.59\00:00:54.56 Dr. John Chung. He is a Dermatologist from 00:00:54.57\00:00:56.84 Dalton, Georgia. He's practiced dermatology 00:00:56.85\00:00:59.24 for about 10 years there and we're glad you 00:00:59.25\00:01:01.66 with us today doctor. Now a dermatologist 00:01:01.67\00:01:04.04 is a what? What's that mean? 00:01:04.05\00:01:06.74 A doctor of the derm, of the dermis, skin. 00:01:10.05\00:01:13.94 Okay the dermis, which means skin. 00:01:13.95\00:01:14.92 And what are the functions of the skin? 00:01:15.24\00:01:16.89 Well there are many functions. 00:01:17.95\00:01:19.14 As you know it's the largest organ 00:01:19.90\00:01:21.23 of the body, okay. And it maintains homeostasis, 00:01:21.24\00:01:24.47 helps, which means the balance, balance, alright. 00:01:25.71\00:01:28.85 Exactly. It helps temperature regulation 00:01:28.86\00:01:31.23 with through sweating mechanisms and stuff like 00:01:32.80\00:01:35.04 that. And also it helps function as a barrier, 00:01:35.05\00:01:39.67 that is helps you from losing water and also 00:01:40.63\00:01:45.50 retards the entrance of potentially toxic chemicals 00:01:46.03\00:01:50.62 and microorganisms and also it has a way 00:01:50.63\00:01:55.55 to protect you from harmful ultraviolet rays. 00:01:55.56\00:01:59.57 And as your sense of touch to anything that's 00:01:59.95\00:02:01.95 related with that tactile sense. Yes. 00:02:01.96\00:02:04.07 Intimacy all those different things. Exactly. 00:02:04.08\00:02:06.39 So, I mean to ask a dermatologist what does 00:02:06.40\00:02:09.57 the skin do, I mean you could probably go on 00:02:09.58\00:02:10.82 for years. Right. But those are the general 00:02:10.83\00:02:13.24 type things, that's correct. What are some of 00:02:13.25\00:02:16.49 the more common problems that you see in your 00:02:16.50\00:02:19.35 practice? Well I see a lot of problems, 00:02:19.36\00:02:22.46 but you know before I go on with that I would 00:02:22.47\00:02:25.40 like to just tell you, when I was in residency 00:02:25.41\00:02:28.78 I saw a patient without skin, what happened was, 00:02:28.79\00:02:34.13 no skin? No skin, the reason why, 00:02:34.14\00:02:36.10 he had skin when he was born but he took 00:02:36.57\00:02:39.13 a medication and his entire skin slipped off. 00:02:39.14\00:02:42.60 And he looked like a raw meat. And he died from 00:02:44.12\00:02:49.25 dehydration and sepsis, which is an infection. 00:02:49.26\00:02:53.13 Right exactly. So skin is very, 00:02:53.68\00:02:56.18 very important organ. So you can actually do 00:02:56.19\00:02:58.95 something that would, man I never heard that 00:02:58.96\00:03:00.88 before though all your skin fell off, 00:03:00.89\00:03:02.42 that guy's skinless, right. So, a medication 00:03:02.43\00:03:07.17 from taking one pill. Oh man. You wouldn't mind 00:03:07.18\00:03:13.10 sharing with us what that pill was, would you? 00:03:13.11\00:03:14.83 No. Okay, so it was something. 00:03:15.91\00:03:17.61 Well I don't want to take it that's why I asked. So 00:03:17.62\00:03:19.35 let's talk about some of the common skin disorders 00:03:19.81\00:03:22.58 that you see you know day and day out. 00:03:22.59\00:03:24.71 Well you can divide into children and adults. 00:03:25.25\00:03:29.08 Alright talk about the children's then. 00:03:29.86\00:03:30.98 In children you have a, like Atopic dermatitis. 00:03:31.04\00:03:33.53 Okay what is that, what's Atopic dermatitis? 00:03:34.17\00:03:36.73 Well Atopic dermatitis is inflammatory condition 00:03:37.12\00:03:44.31 of the skin that occurs in, it usually 00:03:44.32\00:03:48.99 occurs in children starts before age two months. 00:03:49.00\00:03:53.46 Okay. And most of them get it before age 5 up to, 00:03:54.23\00:03:59.62 about 60 percent or so and by well actually 00:04:00.25\00:04:07.99 60 percent by age one. Okay. And by age 5 you 00:04:09.07\00:04:14.20 have about 90 percent. Alright. And so how many 00:04:14.21\00:04:18.42 kids get it in America? You know how many of the 00:04:18.43\00:04:22.03 population will get it. I mean it's significant. 00:04:22.04\00:04:25.46 There are probably about maybe 2 or 3 percent, 00:04:26.55\00:04:32.61 2 or 3 percent, so that's a lot of kids. 00:04:33.25\00:04:34.69 Is it inherited, is it genetic, is it some kind 00:04:34.70\00:04:36.78 of familiar thing that goes with. Yes. Aha. 00:04:36.79\00:04:39.27 About I would say about 60 percent of the children 00:04:40.15\00:04:43.48 will have Atopic dermatitis if one of the parent 00:04:43.49\00:04:46.78 has it, but if both of the parents have it then 00:04:46.79\00:04:50.08 about 80 percent. Okay. So maybe you people 00:04:50.09\00:04:53.99 are dating they should find out they have this. 00:04:54.00\00:04:55.81 Maybe sad, it can be treated right? Right, 00:04:57.19\00:05:00.03 absolutely. Okay so we'll talk about in a minute. 00:05:00.04\00:05:02.46 What are some of the things that can make 00:05:02.68\00:05:04.63 it worse, exacerbated as you would say? Right, 00:05:04.64\00:05:06.74 well certain foods. Okay. For example like eggs, 00:05:07.27\00:05:10.80 dairy products, peanuts there's some like soy beans 00:05:11.79\00:05:19.99 some people are allergic to, and also wheat 00:05:20.75\00:05:24.38 and fish, okay. So when they come to you, 00:05:25.24\00:05:28.01 just have to do a checklist of all the stuff 00:05:28.02\00:05:29.73 they eat? Yeah that, you know sometimes you know 00:05:29.74\00:05:32.70 the parents would tell me every time he drinks milk 00:05:32.71\00:05:35.13 he breaks out, you know, you know that. 00:05:35.80\00:05:37.92 Actually that doesn't cause it but it's a 00:05:38.49\00:05:41.29 exacerbating factor. Okay, because this is 00:05:41.30\00:05:43.64 more of a genetic condition. 00:05:43.65\00:05:45.23 Now there are other things it can be caused 00:05:45.98\00:05:48.32 by is like dust mites inhalation. Okay. 00:05:48.82\00:05:51.76 And also with microorganisms like 00:05:52.19\00:05:56.08 Exotoxin from Staphylococcus Aureus. 00:05:56.09\00:05:58.57 So from an infection. Infection, a toxin from 00:05:59.65\00:06:04.13 infection. Yeah. And also dehydration like frequent 00:06:04.97\00:06:09.41 washing and winter time, you know when there, 00:06:09.42\00:06:13.80 your skin is dry, exactly. And stress can play 00:06:13.81\00:06:18.20 a significant role as well. So think kids go through 00:06:18.92\00:06:22.56 stress, one parent divorces another, 00:06:22.57\00:06:24.33 something like that you've seen them come 00:06:24.34\00:06:25.69 in with things like this. Right. So what other 00:06:25.70\00:06:28.13 problems is it associated with, 00:06:28.14\00:06:29.98 if you get this Atopic dermatitis, 00:06:29.99\00:06:33.10 can it cause other problems? 00:06:33.34\00:06:34.89 Well it can be associated with other problems. 00:06:35.24\00:06:37.81 Okay. Asthma, hay fever and there's something 00:06:37.82\00:06:41.95 called Pityriasis Alba, what that is, 00:06:41.96\00:06:44.74 is a condition that you see in darker skin 00:06:44.75\00:06:47.21 in individuals. Asians and Afro-Americans were, 00:06:47.22\00:06:53.45 they have kind of whitish areas on the skin, 00:06:54.14\00:06:56.70 especially on the face, torso and the arms, 00:06:57.87\00:07:01.92 and that's, it comes out of Atopic dermatitis. 00:07:01.93\00:07:05.20 Some people call it as a Burn Top Atopic Dermatitis. 00:07:05.80\00:07:08.37 But you can have that and also you have 00:07:08.38\00:07:11.34 something called Keratosis Pilaris which 00:07:11.35\00:07:14.40 is a bumpy like a goose bump type of rash 00:07:14.41\00:07:18.02 that occurs on the upper lateral arms, 00:07:18.03\00:07:20.57 thighs, cheeks, sometimes it could be much 00:07:21.26\00:07:23.77 more extensive on the trunk. And also it can be 00:07:23.78\00:07:26.87 associated with something called Ichthyosis 00:07:26.88\00:07:30.43 Vulgaris which is just a fancy term for very, 00:07:30.44\00:07:35.01 very dry skin. And it can be associated with 00:07:35.02\00:07:40.41 something called Molluscum Contagiosum 00:07:42.77\00:07:44.43 which we maybe talking by later on. 00:07:44.44\00:07:47.14 And that is a virus, a special wart virus that 00:07:47.92\00:07:54.78 occurs in the area lot of times and the area 00:07:54.79\00:07:58.42 of the damaged skin. Okay. And also common 00:07:58.43\00:08:03.55 warts and there is a, and a lot of people 00:08:04.14\00:08:08.87 have like fever blister, we call that Herpes 00:08:08.88\00:08:11.96 and they can also be exacerbated by the, 00:08:12.91\00:08:18.28 when you have the condition of Atopic 00:08:18.72\00:08:21.60 dermatitis. So what do you do when someone 00:08:21.61\00:08:23.23 comes in, you diagnose them, they have Atopic 00:08:23.24\00:08:25.24 dermatitis and how long is it gonna last? 00:08:25.25\00:08:28.06 Do they have a long life? Is it gonna be forever? 00:08:28.07\00:08:31.40 Is it gonna be throughout their life? 00:08:31.41\00:08:32.95 And what do you for it? Well usually they 00:08:32.96\00:08:34.94 improve with time. Okay. But some people 00:08:34.95\00:08:37.74 maintain that for the rest of their life. 00:08:38.38\00:08:39.86 Is that right, and you can't really tell when 00:08:39.87\00:08:42.87 they come in? Yeah. Right. You know more severe 00:08:42.88\00:08:45.28 it is initially, probably it will last longer. 00:08:45.29\00:08:48.03 So what do you do to treat it? Main thing 00:08:48.60\00:08:53.07 is hydration of the skin. Hydration, hydration, 00:08:53.08\00:08:55.83 hydration. So fluids, liquids and you can, 00:08:55.84\00:08:58.76 will you display yourself? No. actually let's start 00:08:58.77\00:09:02.70 with bathing. Bathing is much more moisturizing 00:09:02.71\00:09:09.53 than shower. Okay so don't just spray yourself, 00:09:09.54\00:09:12.69 in other words get in the tub. Right, 00:09:12.70\00:09:15.27 get in the tub short and make sure it's not 00:09:15.28\00:09:18.22 too hot, you come out and you can use a soap 00:09:18.23\00:09:22.39 if you want. The type of soap that I like 00:09:22.40\00:09:24.67 to use is a hydrating type of soap without 00:09:24.68\00:09:27.59 any fragrance. So look for the type that has 00:09:27.60\00:09:29.86 kind of some moisturizers in it and no scent. 00:09:29.87\00:09:32.73 Right, Moisturizing soap. Okay. And then we, 00:09:33.79\00:09:35.96 after that use to get moisturizer and lot 00:09:36.54\00:09:41.34 of times, you probably, you could probably give, 00:09:41.35\00:09:42.91 prescribe some of these things or you get them 00:09:43.76\00:09:45.14 over the counter. You can get most of these 00:09:45.15\00:09:46.87 over the counter. Okay. So when you do that a lot 00:09:46.88\00:09:49.50 of times you can avoid going to the physician. 00:09:49.51\00:09:51.83 But once you come to the Physician 00:09:52.95\00:09:54.30 you'll be prescribed some medications, 00:09:55.14\00:09:57.55 for example a topical steroid and also there 00:09:58.10\00:10:03.64 is something out there that is Steroid-sparing 00:10:03.65\00:10:07.66 agents, which act like steroids without much 00:10:07.67\00:10:11.32 side effects. What about plant steroids, 00:10:12.06\00:10:13.82 you know lots of people have these now and 00:10:13.83\00:10:15.46 get them in a health food stores, 00:10:15.47\00:10:16.80 is that's something is good for this? 00:10:16.81\00:10:17.83 Well I wouldn't recommend that. 00:10:18.58\00:10:20.51 Because it's not really something you don't 00:10:21.01\00:10:22.92 know how much you are getting from it? 00:10:22.93\00:10:23.90 Right, exactly. And so it's better if you are 00:10:23.91\00:10:25.80 gonna take something like that have a physician 00:10:25.81\00:10:27.37 involved. Yes, because the type of steroids 00:10:27.38\00:10:29.75 we give it has exact concentration, 00:10:29.76\00:10:31.47 you will know what side effects it may give. 00:10:31.48\00:10:33.54 Well let's switch gears for a minute, 00:10:33.98\00:10:34.97 what about Acne, I mean lot's of people probably 00:10:34.98\00:10:37.38 there are kids come and talking about Acne, 00:10:37.39\00:10:38.94 that's maybe your number one seller. 00:10:38.95\00:10:40.60 Yes. Acne is very, very common. 00:10:41.18\00:10:42.86 And it's the inflammation of the something 00:10:43.85\00:10:47.00 called Pilosebaceous unit, that is Pilosebaceous 00:10:47.01\00:10:50.88 unit, yes. What that is, is a hair and 00:10:51.22\00:10:54.08 oil gland unit. Every time you've hair usually 00:10:54.51\00:10:59.63 have oil gland associated or attached to it. 00:10:59.64\00:11:02.19 Okay. Now the common places that you have 00:11:02.84\00:11:05.58 this is on the face and trunk. 00:11:07.82\00:11:09.84 Now you may not see much hair but, 00:11:10.74\00:11:13.17 we call that Vellus hair or peach fuzz 00:11:14.06\00:11:15.72 type of hair. That is, that is where usually 00:11:15.73\00:11:18.74 the Acne is involved. So that somehow gets 00:11:20.38\00:11:25.68 inflamed, somehow, what happens? 00:11:25.69\00:11:27.58 Well it occurs after puberty. It tend to occur 00:11:28.02\00:11:32.55 earlier and more severely in men, in males. 00:11:32.56\00:11:36.62 And it's multi-factorial and there, 00:11:37.38\00:11:39.35 it is pretty complicated. And it has several 00:11:39.36\00:11:44.48 factors we have to consider. Number one 00:11:44.49\00:11:47.02 is hormones which mainly the male hormones 00:11:47.03\00:11:50.67 called androgens. Okay. And the other is 00:11:50.68\00:11:54.64 bacteria, there is something called 00:11:54.65\00:11:57.27 Propionibacterium, Acnes. Okay. 00:11:58.04\00:12:03.89 And also abnormal characterization of the 00:12:03.90\00:12:07.34 hair follicle and there also has to be 00:12:10.18\00:12:12.70 a genetic predisposition. Let's say those again 00:12:12.71\00:12:15.50 real quick we have, we have what is it again 00:12:15.51\00:12:19.27 that we have there? The hormones, bacteria, 00:12:19.28\00:12:21.52 abnormal characterization and genetics. 00:12:22.62\00:12:25.89 So what's abnormal characterization? Okay. 00:12:26.38\00:12:28.00 Let me try to explain this, what happens is after 00:12:28.55\00:12:31.76 puberty your, the androgens, the hormones, 00:12:31.77\00:12:35.90 your hormones kick in, start stimulating your, 00:12:35.91\00:12:38.69 stimulating the production of the sebum or 00:12:40.01\00:12:43.29 the oil gland. Okay. So lots of, lot more oil 00:12:43.90\00:12:47.51 is produced. Which in turn causes excess 00:12:47.52\00:12:53.45 amount of sebum and bacteria that live 00:12:54.05\00:12:56.64 in there loves to eat that and it breaks down 00:12:56.65\00:13:00.24 the lipids into fatty acids because the bacteria 00:13:00.25\00:13:04.40 contains something called Lipase. 00:13:04.41\00:13:05.76 And these sebum and fatty acids combination 00:13:06.81\00:13:10.33 it causes, there's something called characterization 00:13:11.71\00:13:19.26 that occurs within the hair follicle unit. 00:13:19.27\00:13:22.13 Okay. That is hair follicle itself produce 00:13:22.75\00:13:25.50 kind of like, something like skin and it sheds 00:13:27.75\00:13:30.62 normally. I see. But influence of this, 00:13:30.63\00:13:33.39 these acids and bacteria, it causes these cells 00:13:35.34\00:13:43.29 instead of being extruded it gets sticky and 00:13:43.30\00:13:46.69 gets stuck. And then everything builds up under. 00:13:46.70\00:13:49.38 Right, exactly. And then oil keeps on producing 00:13:49.76\00:13:52.64 and then eventually it's kind of pops 00:13:53.15\00:13:55.25 to the dermis. And your body comes and tries to 00:13:55.26\00:13:58.27 get rid of it and forming pus and inflammatory 00:13:58.28\00:14:02.83 nodules. 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Let's say I come in with 15 year 00:15:32.41\00:15:35.08 old Donald, my son, and I bring him and he 00:15:35.09\00:15:38.64 is just embarrassed, he's got Acne all over and 00:15:38.65\00:15:41.76 I'm saying you know we got a problem here and 00:15:42.76\00:15:45.95 then you're talking to him. Talk to me like you 00:15:45.96\00:15:47.68 talk to him. What would you say to him and 00:15:47.69\00:15:49.30 explain it to us? Well first of all you know 00:15:50.03\00:15:51.59 we talked about the fact that it's due to hormonal 00:15:52.48\00:15:56.03 control. That you would talk to him about the 00:15:56.04\00:15:58.26 hormones? Right hormones and the fact 00:15:58.27\00:16:00.51 that you know, you really can't control that. 00:16:00.52\00:16:01.90 It's natural, usually it's, it's, everybody goes 00:16:02.44\00:16:09.25 through it, it's normal levels. Right. 00:16:09.26\00:16:11.02 But the thing is there's some study show that milk, 00:16:11.03\00:16:13.92 because it contains hormones, okay 00:16:14.40\00:16:15.37 and stress and people you know not in 00:16:15.38\00:16:19.69 in son's case but in females around their periods 00:16:19.70\00:16:22.12 okay, their androgen levels tend to go up and during 00:16:22.13\00:16:26.62 those times there is a exacerbation of the Acne. 00:16:26.63\00:16:29.05 So you probably say hey you know if you're 00:16:29.75\00:16:31.77 hitting the dairy or the milk you might wanna 00:16:31.78\00:16:33.90 knock that off and. Well instead go home and 00:16:33.91\00:16:37.21 scrub his face, get out a Brillo pad or something 00:16:37.22\00:16:39.24 and try and get it off. Absolutely not, 00:16:39.25\00:16:40.62 because it doesn't, it doesn't work, not matter 00:16:40.63\00:16:42.64 how much you scrub that is gonna happen. 00:16:42.65\00:16:45.19 It may actually make it worse, it leads to more 00:16:45.70\00:16:47.87 scaring, but you know I always tell them 00:16:47.88\00:16:51.42 something you know that is you have to 00:16:51.43\00:16:53.43 give them hope, you know what I mean, right. 00:16:53.44\00:16:55.05 Because you don't, first of all you don't see 00:16:55.06\00:16:57.49 a Acne in 5 year olds or 95 year olds because 00:16:57.50\00:17:02.14 the hormone levels are low at that time. 00:17:03.15\00:17:04.47 Okay, so when they become 95 you know 00:17:05.07\00:17:06.71 you can tell them that their Acne will go away 00:17:07.19\00:17:08.95 absolutely. I'm sure that will be comforting, 00:17:08.96\00:17:11.42 that's almost like 80 years away. So, 00:17:11.94\00:17:13.69 are there certain kind of soaps or different 00:17:16.61\00:17:18.83 things they should use or is it just what, 00:17:18.84\00:17:21.58 do they take the dairy and the milk away and 00:17:22.25\00:17:24.09 then just wait? Well, there are some medications 00:17:24.32\00:17:27.84 but before we talk about the medications, 00:17:27.85\00:17:29.73 we need to talk about some other things that 00:17:30.94\00:17:34.13 maybe associated with different types of Acne. 00:17:34.14\00:17:37.26 Okay. Can we do that? Yeah, sure, go ahead. 00:17:37.93\00:17:39.16 What could be some different types of Acne? 00:17:39.17\00:17:41.73 Well, you know there is Acne that occurs in 00:17:41.74\00:17:44.84 females. Okay. That is associated with male 00:17:45.61\00:17:49.55 pattern hair growth called Hirsutism, okay. 00:17:49.56\00:17:53.56 That they may or may not have irregular menses 00:17:53.94\00:17:56.49 and sometimes they have weight gain, 00:17:57.56\00:17:59.94 we call that Polycystic Ovary Syndrome. 00:18:02.04\00:18:05.28 Okay. So if you have that, people like that they 00:18:05.92\00:18:08.68 need to see an endocrinologist or their 00:18:08.69\00:18:10.81 OB GYN to have it worked out. And also there's 00:18:10.82\00:18:14.75 something called Acne Conglobata, 00:18:14.76\00:18:15.96 which is a very severe form of Acne occurs 00:18:15.97\00:18:19.23 more commonly on the trunk, okay. 00:18:19.24\00:18:21.48 And there is another form of Acne called 00:18:22.09\00:18:24.28 Acne Fulminans, now this is a very severe form 00:18:24.57\00:18:28.84 of Acne, this is the most severe form of Acne. 00:18:28.85\00:18:30.87 Fulminans like Fulminats it goes all over the 00:18:30.88\00:18:33.02 place rapidly? Absolutely, very, very, 00:18:33.03\00:18:34.81 it's usually occurs in young males between 00:18:34.82\00:18:39.68 about 13 and 17. Acute onset, very severe 00:18:39.69\00:18:43.93 cystic acne, with pus formation and there 00:18:43.94\00:18:47.24 is ulceration involved. And there is malaise, 00:18:47.25\00:18:50.95 fever, joint pains, and elevated white count 00:18:50.96\00:18:54.57 and many times they need to get hospitalized 00:18:55.85\00:18:57.38 you know. Can you imagine, because 00:18:57.39\00:18:58.38 of all that infection that get into the blood stream 00:18:58.39\00:19:00.52 and really make it a problem. People actually 00:19:01.60\00:19:03.57 can die from this. and can you imagine 00:19:03.83\00:19:06.21 you know you come out of the hospital they 00:19:06.22\00:19:07.70 go did you have heart attack or stroke, 00:19:07.71\00:19:10.08 what do you have? No, I was in for Acne. 00:19:10.09\00:19:12.78 So Acne can be severe you know it's not just. 00:19:14.92\00:19:17.23 Right. So you have to explain if the severe type 00:19:18.32\00:19:22.96 of fulminating type and then everyone will 00:19:22.97\00:19:24.80 get quiet, right? Right. And we can talk about 00:19:24.81\00:19:28.31 treatment now. Yes so what do we do 00:19:29.14\00:19:30.71 to treat it? We said we do not try and scrub it off, 00:19:30.72\00:19:34.05 that doesn't work? Right absolutely. 00:19:34.06\00:19:35.81 We've already said get rid of the dairy products, 00:19:35.82\00:19:37.58 try that, those different things but what else 00:19:37.59\00:19:40.35 can we do? Okay. You can get rid of your 00:19:40.36\00:19:44.22 parents you know genetic predisposition, 00:19:44.23\00:19:46.26 but that doesn't gonna work. 00:19:46.27\00:19:47.73 That's not gonna work 'cause you're already 00:19:47.74\00:19:49.25 there, okay. Now, you have three major types, 00:19:49.26\00:19:54.37 they actually four, four. One is a antibiotics, 00:19:56.03\00:19:59.82 topical or oral, okay, the other is something 00:20:00.51\00:20:03.59 called Benzoyl peroxide, topical, the other 00:20:03.60\00:20:06.71 is retinoids, retinoids. Now these things in 00:20:06.72\00:20:12.39 combination will get best not just by itself. 00:20:12.40\00:20:16.58 So taking antibiotic, they used to give when 00:20:17.34\00:20:19.24 I was a kid, tetracycline, do they still do that? 00:20:19.25\00:20:21.20 Yes, tetracycline is a common thing and also, 00:20:21.53\00:20:23.72 any dangers with that? You always can have 00:20:24.46\00:20:29.00 side effects. But this is probably fairly safe, 00:20:29.01\00:20:32.70 but you have to take on an empty stomach 00:20:33.52\00:20:34.79 and most dangerous part about this is not 00:20:35.72\00:20:37.51 becoming pregnant. I emphasis that even 00:20:38.22\00:20:40.59 to males not becoming pregnant, 00:20:40.60\00:20:43.38 because they can always share with the female. 00:20:43.39\00:20:46.38 Okay. They need to know the fact. Alright. 00:20:46.98\00:20:48.96 And also there's something called 00:20:48.97\00:20:50.18 Minocycline, that you can take that a couple 00:20:50.19\00:20:54.96 of times a day or once a day because of this 00:20:54.97\00:20:56.72 severity and with that you can have sometimes 00:20:56.73\00:21:00.48 dizziness associated with it. So all of these things, 00:21:01.14\00:21:05.51 the antibiotic serves upsides and downsides, 00:21:05.52\00:21:08.93 right, potential downside. So what I am trying 00:21:08.94\00:21:11.90 to do is give them, if they need to, 00:21:11.91\00:21:16.37 oral antibiotics but I try to pick them off the oral 00:21:16.84\00:21:20.26 antibiotics as fast as possible. 00:21:20.27\00:21:21.83 But I try to use them, seven or ten days. 00:21:22.64\00:21:24.95 Oh no, no, no. Two months three months. 00:21:26.01\00:21:27.66 Few months, depends on how they respond. 00:21:27.67\00:21:29.46 Okay. But my main state is a topical medication. 00:21:29.96\00:21:32.82 So you get some kind of creams or something 00:21:33.73\00:21:35.64 you give them. Right, right. Topical medication, 00:21:35.65\00:21:37.57 Benzoyl peroxide product and retinoic product 00:21:37.58\00:21:41.00 like Retin A and so. If the Acne is really you know 00:21:41.01\00:21:45.78 open sores and stuff, you probably don't use 00:21:45.79\00:21:47.56 the topical, yes or no? Yeah, you can, you can. 00:21:47.57\00:21:50.89 But you really need unless it's very mild I usually 00:21:51.52\00:21:55.22 like to use some type of oral antibiotics and 00:21:55.73\00:22:00.21 females you can use estrogen products, okay, 00:22:01.79\00:22:04.78 birth control pills with high estrogen content. 00:22:04.79\00:22:06.94 Now there are patients who are, 00:22:08.03\00:22:09.07 we concentrate to conventional therapy and 00:22:10.01\00:22:16.32 very severe Acne and I go straight to something 00:22:16.33\00:22:20.46 called Accutane or Isotretinoin and that is 00:22:20.47\00:22:27.77 probably the best and a revolutionary way of 00:22:27.78\00:22:31.77 treating Acne. It's been around for sometime but, 00:22:31.78\00:22:35.42 and it's not an antibiotic it's not a cream but 00:22:36.19\00:22:38.59 it is something else. You say a form of Vitamin A. 00:22:38.60\00:22:40.72 form of Vitamin and would most dermatologists 00:22:41.33\00:22:43.55 know about that or you special in that regard. 00:22:43.56\00:22:46.78 Well most, almost, most physicians know about 00:22:47.25\00:22:50.11 that but you know that is very, very effective 00:22:50.64\00:22:53.29 but it has some side effects, okay. 00:22:54.06\00:22:56.25 Vitamin A therapy has some side effects. 00:22:56.93\00:22:58.97 Well Accutane, not Vitamin A. Because Vitamin A 00:22:59.49\00:23:02.32 and Accutane, Accutane is slightly different from 00:23:02.33\00:23:04.75 Vitamin A, okay. Now number one is dryness, 00:23:04.76\00:23:07.65 every single person who has gone through 00:23:07.66\00:23:11.39 Accutane they will tell you one of the worst 00:23:11.40\00:23:14.04 side effects is dryness. Because what it does 00:23:14.05\00:23:16.53 is it dries up the oil gland, that's what it causes. 00:23:16.54\00:23:18.65 Right. And also it can increase your triglyceride 00:23:18.66\00:23:22.40 level. So you got to be careful. Yeah, 00:23:22.41\00:23:25.27 since we monitor their blood levels and you have, 00:23:25.40\00:23:30.31 only goes up to over 800 or so, 00:23:31.56\00:23:33.50 you have to worry about Pancreatitis. 00:23:34.40\00:23:35.86 So it's although, that's why you would use it last, 00:23:37.23\00:23:39.76 you use other things because these are 00:23:39.77\00:23:41.11 some very risky side effects then, right. 00:23:41.12\00:23:42.94 And one of the and absolutely not to do while 00:23:42.95\00:23:47.80 on Accutane is pregnancy. It can cause very 00:23:49.23\00:23:54.05 severe birth defects. I see, you got to be very, 00:23:54.06\00:23:57.26 very careful about that. So these are the treatments 00:23:57.27\00:23:59.92 for Acne, anything else? That's pretty much okay. 00:23:59.93\00:24:03.20 Let's go on and talk about common warts. 00:24:03.53\00:24:05.88 And we got about three minutes left in the 00:24:06.89\00:24:08.48 program so let's talk as much as we can here 00:24:08.49\00:24:10.89 about warts. Well. What about that, 00:24:10.90\00:24:14.22 how do you get that? People think they're 00:24:14.23\00:24:17.12 from frogs actually. I'm just kidding. 00:24:17.13\00:24:19.23 That's what sometimes people say. 00:24:19.44\00:24:20.44 That's an old wives tale yeah. but it's you know 00:24:20.45\00:24:23.34 it's a virus that you get it from other people, 00:24:24.79\00:24:27.29 other kids. And so you give antiviral medication, 00:24:28.34\00:24:31.87 you got creams, what you do for them? 00:24:31.88\00:24:33.35 Well there are several ways one is freezing them, 00:24:34.31\00:24:38.43 the other is actually burning them off and 00:24:39.80\00:24:43.87 the other is cutting it off, but I would not 00:24:43.88\00:24:47.03 recommend that but one of the best treatment 00:24:47.04\00:24:50.44 at this point is something called Candida antigen 00:24:50.45\00:24:52.64 injection right into the wart and about 70 percent 00:24:52.65\00:24:56.14 of the people respond. So you would try and 00:24:56.15\00:24:58.63 take your own warts off at home. Yes we can. 00:24:58.64\00:25:01.07 And you know wart is a very funny thing 00:25:01.79\00:25:03.51 because a lot of times they respond even without 00:25:03.52\00:25:06.20 any treatment. And so you know if you don't 00:25:06.21\00:25:10.88 have to treat it, don't treat it. 00:25:10.89\00:25:12.08 the reason why you treat wart is because 00:25:12.67\00:25:14.89 it's unsightly and if it's on the bottom of the 00:25:15.75\00:25:17.82 foot it's very painful. Now the other thing 00:25:17.83\00:25:21.33 is if you're a criminal you know you're gonna 00:25:21.34\00:25:23.68 have a hard time with your thumb prints you know, 00:25:23.69\00:25:25.68 when you give your, if it's on the thumb 00:25:25.69\00:25:30.07 I mean so you got to get that out. Get that out. 00:25:30.59\00:25:33.37 Well I think there are another ways to track 00:25:34.64\00:25:36.33 criminals now besides warts probably DNA and 00:25:36.34\00:25:39.47 what not but that's interesting. 00:25:39.48\00:25:41.39 Okay so that gives us kind of an overview of 00:25:41.93\00:25:43.75 warts you know you see a lot of patients 00:25:43.76\00:25:45.51 I don't know hundreds of patients come through 00:25:46.15\00:25:48.37 your clinic every day, you're in the room only 00:25:48.38\00:25:50.72 for a brief moment many times just to say 00:25:50.73\00:25:52.86 a word and look over this or that, how do you 00:25:54.11\00:25:56.73 as a Christian physician you're part of the 00:25:57.24\00:25:58.28 Adventist Medical Evangelism Network, 00:25:58.29\00:26:00.23 how do you as a Christian physician gives 00:26:01.04\00:26:02.48 that caring touch of Christ to the patients you 00:26:03.08\00:26:06.67 see just briefly maybe they're just coming 00:26:06.68\00:26:08.19 in to get checked. Well being kind and also 00:26:08.20\00:26:12.00 touching them. I like to touch all my patients, 00:26:13.01\00:26:15.42 even though they have a skin problem you 00:26:16.12\00:26:18.27 touch them, right. Very important. 00:26:18.28\00:26:20.72 Just don't touch the warts, you know, right, 00:26:20.73\00:26:23.72 but touch them and sometimes I pray with them, 00:26:24.39\00:26:26.65 depends on their need, I don't pray with all the 00:26:27.72\00:26:29.72 patients but when the Spirit leads, that's when. 00:26:29.73\00:26:35.11 And as a result of working especially with kids, 00:26:35.83\00:26:40.97 what's the hardest? Is it most difficult to talk 00:26:42.04\00:26:44.60 to the children or to their parents? 00:26:44.61\00:26:45.90 Well probably parents, but you know treatment 00:26:48.28\00:26:53.17 when you actually treat, you know the children 00:26:53.18\00:26:56.30 are very, very scared and they cry and, 00:26:56.31\00:26:59.12 but at the same time the parents want to know 00:27:00.32\00:27:03.49 what's going on and try to explain and dealing 00:27:03.50\00:27:06.43 with all that, you know. So this is a, you know, 00:27:06.44\00:27:10.53 it sometimes some other things we talk about 00:27:10.54\00:27:12.71 sometimes are seemingly a little funny but they're 00:27:12.72\00:27:16.55 really not if it's happening to you, right, 00:27:16.56\00:27:18.54 it's kind of like you know this is happening to me 00:27:18.55\00:27:21.20 and so I'm sure you know I used to work in an 00:27:21.21\00:27:23.86 emergency room and we'd see a lots of different 00:27:23.87\00:27:25.65 people come through with different things and try 00:27:25.66\00:27:28.87 and be as helpful and direct as possible, 00:27:28.88\00:27:31.02 but you know let them know they're appreciated. 00:27:31.03\00:27:33.79 I can tell you're that type of doctor. 00:27:34.32\00:27:35.34 Thank you so much for talking with us today 00:27:36.08\00:27:37.89 about some of the common skin problems with 00:27:37.90\00:27:39.96 children, we didn't cover them all, 00:27:39.97\00:27:40.96 but we'll maybe talk about some more in 00:27:41.68\00:27:43.63 a future program. And thank you for joined us 00:27:43.64\00:27:45.32 today on Health For a Lifetime. Some really 00:27:45.33\00:27:47.88 practical things today and it's good to know that 00:27:47.89\00:27:51.34 we have dermatologists and frontline, 00:27:51.35\00:27:53.97 that can go pass the frontline defenses, 00:27:53.98\00:27:55.95 we hope that today's program will give 00:27:56.50\00:27:57.68 you skin health that lasts for a lifetime. 00:27:57.69\00:28:00.03