The following program presents principles designed 00:00:01.23\00:00:03.91 to promote good health 00:00:03.92\00:00:05.20 and is not intended to take the place 00:00:05.21\00:00:06.77 of personalized professional care. 00:00:06.78\00:00:09.34 The opinions and ideas expressed are those of the speaker. 00:00:09.35\00:00:12.79 Viewers are encouraged to draw their own conclusions 00:00:12.80\00:00:15.26 about the information presented. 00:00:15.27\00:00:17.30 Hello, and welcome to "Health For A Lifetime." 00:00:50.50\00:00:51.98 I'm your host Don Mackintosh. 00:00:51.99\00:00:53.37 And today we're delighted to be talking with Vicki Griffin. 00:00:53.38\00:00:56.49 She's an author and she's part of the team 00:00:56.50\00:00:58.96 that's producing excellent materials to help people 00:00:58.97\00:01:01.47 with various areas in their lives. 00:01:01.48\00:01:03.25 And today, we're gonna be talking 00:01:03.26\00:01:04.50 about the brain on a binge. 00:01:04.51\00:01:07.06 How to overcome food addictions and cravings. 00:01:07.07\00:01:11.53 And you've actually written some things 00:01:11.54\00:01:13.07 about this with your team. 00:01:13.08\00:01:14.60 Yes, it's called "Living Free, 00:01:14.61\00:01:15.97 Finding Freedom from Habits that Hurt." 00:01:15.98\00:01:17.96 And we have of the teams of addiction specialists 00:01:17.97\00:01:20.05 that have gotten together and a nutritionist. 00:01:20.06\00:01:23.45 And we've put together a package 00:01:23.46\00:01:25.13 which we think is going to help 00:01:25.14\00:01:26.22 to solve some of these challenges. 00:01:26.23\00:01:28.24 So, is it possible to be addicted 00:01:28.25\00:01:30.99 to something other than drugs? 00:01:31.00\00:01:32.25 You know, we talked about being addicted to drugs. 00:01:32.26\00:01:33.82 We talked about being addicted to tobacco, 00:01:33.83\00:01:36.92 other different things, but maybe caffeine. 00:01:36.93\00:01:39.83 But is it possible to be addicted to something else? 00:01:39.84\00:01:42.50 Well, intuitively people have probably felt 00:01:42.51\00:01:45.69 this way for a long time. 00:01:45.70\00:01:46.73 They'll talk about being a Junk Food Junkie 00:01:46.74\00:01:48.64 or a chocoholic or they'll talk about being 00:01:48.65\00:01:51.00 an internet or TV addict or we know that people 00:01:51.01\00:01:53.69 have significant problems with porn and gambling, 00:01:53.70\00:01:55.75 and other issues of that nature. 00:01:55.76\00:01:58.07 But now it's being validated 00:01:58.08\00:02:00.02 as we're able to see brain images of people 00:02:00.03\00:02:02.72 that do suffer from addictions. 00:02:02.73\00:02:04.17 And according to Howard Shaffer 00:02:04.18\00:02:05.96 from the Division on Addictions at Howard University, 00:02:05.97\00:02:08.50 "Drug use is not a necessary 00:02:08.51\00:02:10.88 and sufficient cause of addiction." 00:02:10.89\00:02:13.73 So it doesn't just have to be drugs, 00:02:13.74\00:02:15.14 in other words, it could be something else. 00:02:15.15\00:02:16.87 In fact, he says, "It is improper to consider drugs 00:02:16.88\00:02:20.01 as the necessary precondiction-- 00:02:20.02\00:02:21.85 precondition for addiction." 00:02:21.86\00:02:23.10 So it's really, it can be drugs or anything else. 00:02:23.11\00:02:26.96 It's a condition of the mind. 00:02:26.97\00:02:28.23 The definition has been expanded 00:02:28.24\00:02:30.16 to include persistent compulsive behavior 00:02:30.17\00:02:32.98 that is harmful or destructive characterized 00:02:32.99\00:02:35.79 by an inability to stop. Right. Okay. 00:02:35.80\00:02:38.42 And there's a quote also 00:02:38.43\00:02:39.66 from Brian Knutson from Stanford University. 00:02:39.67\00:02:42.72 And he says, "It is-- it stands to reason 00:02:42.73\00:02:46.02 if you can derange brain circuitry 00:02:46.03\00:02:48.79 with pharmacology, you can do it 00:02:48.80\00:02:50.98 with natural rewards as well." 00:02:50.99\00:02:53.02 So, you know, what are natural rewards. 00:02:53.03\00:02:54.84 Pharmacology, of course, will be drugs. 00:02:54.85\00:02:56.49 Right, well the two most potent natural rewards that, 00:02:56.50\00:02:59.73 that create this effect are food and sex. 00:02:59.74\00:03:03.79 And so I thought we would wanna take a look today 00:03:03.80\00:03:06.33 at what--one of those natural rewards-- 00:03:06.34\00:03:08.14 Okay, you have a nice little glass of something here. 00:03:08.15\00:03:10.58 Right. This is--what is this, sugar or salt? 00:03:10.59\00:03:13.77 Well, this is sugar and it is 35 teaspoons 00:03:13.78\00:03:16.78 of what we would call a psychopharmacologic dose-- 00:03:16.79\00:03:19.94 Now you want me to drink this? No, I don't. 00:03:19.95\00:03:21.96 Okay. So what do we call this? 00:03:21.97\00:03:24.75 It's called a psychopharmacologic dose 00:03:24.76\00:03:26.76 of a macronutrient. There are-- 00:03:26.77\00:03:28.22 What's that mean? So that means that like-- 00:03:28.23\00:03:30.29 There are three-- There are three macronutrients 00:03:30.30\00:03:33.59 that we need in large amounts. 00:03:33.60\00:03:35.19 Sugar? And sugar is one. 00:03:35.20\00:03:37.07 And of course we want it in slower doses. 00:03:37.08\00:03:40.15 But we want sugar, we want protein, and we want fat. 00:03:40.16\00:03:42.57 Now what this constitutes is the basic American Snack. 00:03:42.58\00:03:45.87 This is--Oh, my candy bar just fell over the railing there, 00:03:45.88\00:03:48.70 but, a candy bar and a 20 ounce soda 00:03:48.71\00:03:52.84 is this much sugar. 00:03:52.85\00:03:54.99 And of course, most people are drinking 00:03:55.00\00:03:57.68 larger size soda than that. 00:03:57.69\00:03:59.26 I worked with a lady in California 00:03:59.27\00:04:00.62 that was drinking 10 of those large sodas a day. 00:04:00.63\00:04:04.07 Larger size than that. And so, so what we are saying 00:04:04.08\00:04:07.42 is that this is not an after dinner mint. Because--okay. 00:04:07.43\00:04:11.82 It's a very significant dose. 00:04:11.83\00:04:12.95 Right. So the problem-- the problem 00:04:12.96\00:04:15.10 is not having an occasional sweet, 00:04:15.11\00:04:16.84 but we're having a birthday party for breakfast, 00:04:16.85\00:04:18.91 Christmas for lunch, thanksgiving for dinner. 00:04:18.92\00:04:21.03 People do this repeatedly. 00:04:21.04\00:04:22.22 And this is going to have an affect 00:04:22.23\00:04:24.02 on the architecture of the brain, 00:04:24.03\00:04:25.78 addiction pathways, appetite regulatory mechanisms. 00:04:25.79\00:04:29.21 And it's going to create some real metabolic mayhem. 00:04:29.22\00:04:32.16 So in other words, if you started doing this day 00:04:32.17\00:04:34.34 and day out, your brain cannot organizes itself around that, 00:04:34.35\00:04:38.49 and it just expects it and if it doesn't have it-- 00:04:38.50\00:04:40.66 That's right. It misses it, 00:04:40.67\00:04:42.21 and you're just completely, 00:04:42.22\00:04:43.37 you're changing your brain chemistry. 00:04:43.38\00:04:45.36 That's exactly right. 00:04:45.37\00:04:46.55 And there are not only chemistry changes, 00:04:46.56\00:04:49.33 but structural changes that take place, 00:04:49.34\00:04:51.31 that are long lasting. 00:04:51.32\00:04:53.07 The good news is--is that the brain is very resilient 00:04:53.08\00:04:57.11 and it can be remodeled, and that's what 00:04:57.12\00:04:59.94 we're all about with Lifestyle Matters 00:04:59.95\00:05:01.90 and with the Living Free Program. 00:05:01.91\00:05:03.83 So if you were to look at someone's brain 00:05:03.84\00:05:05.39 then say was, you know, addicted to like drugs 00:05:05.40\00:05:09.43 or pharmal-- pharmacological things-- 00:05:09.44\00:05:11.23 Right. Versus someone that's addicted to, 00:05:11.24\00:05:13.93 you know, their big bowls of sugar 00:05:13.94\00:05:16.62 and their soda pop, and their candy bar. 00:05:16.63\00:05:20.09 Right. Is there a difference? 00:05:20.10\00:05:21.61 Well, I wanna share a quote with you, a couple of quotes. 00:05:21.62\00:05:24.22 One is from Ann Kelley. 00:05:24.23\00:05:25.35 She is--she's very well known in this field. 00:05:25.36\00:05:27.52 She's from the Neuroscience Division 00:05:27.53\00:05:29.05 of the University of Wisconsin Medical School. 00:05:29.06\00:05:31.34 She says, "With these--" 00:05:31.35\00:05:33.01 She calls these hedonic doses of sugar and fat. 00:05:33.02\00:05:37.28 "The brain is getting addicted to its own opioids 00:05:37.29\00:05:40.32 as it would morphine or heroin. 00:05:40.33\00:05:42.37 Drugs give a bigger effect, 00:05:42.38\00:05:43.65 but it is essentially the same process. 00:05:43.66\00:05:46.27 This says that mere exposure to pleasurable, 00:05:46.28\00:05:48.85 tasty foods is enough to change gene expression, 00:05:48.86\00:05:52.04 and that suggests you could be addicted to food." 00:05:52.05\00:05:55.23 And then the graphic that we want to share 00:05:55.24\00:05:57.49 with our viewers today is from Mark Gold 00:05:57.50\00:05:59.86 from the McKnight Brain Institute 00:05:59.87\00:06:01.35 at the University of Florida. 00:06:01.36\00:06:03.11 He says, "What's the difference between 00:06:03.12\00:06:05.07 someone who's lost control over alcohol 00:06:05.08\00:06:07.46 and someone who's lost control over good food?" 00:06:07.47\00:06:10.75 And good in the sense of just highly hedonic, not healthy. 00:06:10.76\00:06:15.00 "When you look at their brains and their brain responses, 00:06:15.01\00:06:17.97 the differences are not very significant." 00:06:17.98\00:06:20.99 So you--if you were to open up someone's brain 00:06:21.00\00:06:22.87 and do a little, not an autopsy, 00:06:22.88\00:06:25.34 'cause hopefully they're not dead, 00:06:25.35\00:06:26.45 but if you were to look at the structures in their brain, 00:06:26.46\00:06:28.54 they look exactly the same, if it's a crack addict 00:06:28.55\00:06:30.84 or if it's a Lays potato chip addict. 00:06:30.85\00:06:34.84 Well, they're very-- it's very similar. Okay. 00:06:34.85\00:06:38.79 Yes, it is very, very similar. 00:06:38.80\00:06:40.29 There are some things going on with food addiction 00:06:40.30\00:06:42.51 that are actually over and above. 00:06:42.52\00:06:44.41 We'll get into that. 00:06:44.42\00:06:45.49 But I like what Charles Billington has to say. 00:06:45.50\00:06:48.98 He is the ex-leader or president 00:06:48.99\00:06:52.09 of the North American Association 00:06:52.10\00:06:53.52 for the Study of Obesity. 00:06:53.53\00:06:54.83 He said this, "As we develop full understanding 00:06:54.84\00:06:57.94 of the neuroregulation of appetite, 00:06:57.95\00:06:59.73 I think the addictive nature of foods 00:06:59.74\00:07:01.78 will come clear and I think we will learn 00:07:01.79\00:07:04.06 that these addictions can develop 00:07:04.07\00:07:05.69 at various stages of life and I think we will learn 00:07:05.70\00:07:08.23 that they are very, very powerful." 00:07:08.24\00:07:10.17 And brain imaging is showing 00:07:10.18\00:07:12.16 pictorially that this is the case. 00:07:12.17\00:07:15.03 So you get to the point 00:07:15.04\00:07:16.76 where you truly can't just have one. 00:07:16.77\00:07:19.68 Where it's in the house, 00:07:19.69\00:07:21.48 you can't stop thinking about it until it's gone. 00:07:21.49\00:07:23.71 You know how many are in the package. 00:07:23.72\00:07:26.96 And here's what I tell people, 00:07:26.97\00:07:28.31 you can tell if you're a food addict. 00:07:28.32\00:07:29.56 You know, you see that plate of brownies 00:07:29.57\00:07:31.02 going around the table and you've got your eye on 00:07:31.03\00:07:33.13 the one that's just for you. 00:07:33.14\00:07:35.38 And if somebody else takes it, you're disappointed. 00:07:35.39\00:07:37.85 But if your husband takes it, you're mad at him. 00:07:37.86\00:07:39.74 Okay, so you increased availability is one thing 00:07:41.55\00:07:45.79 that tells you that you're addicted. 00:07:45.80\00:07:47.54 There are--there are some real similarities 00:07:47.55\00:07:49.88 with drug addiction and food addiction. 00:07:49.89\00:07:52.85 One is increased availability. 00:07:52.86\00:07:54.49 We know that statistically, the more available 00:07:54.50\00:07:56.43 a substance is in area, 00:07:56.44\00:07:58.06 you'll have a statistical increase in drug addiction. 00:07:58.07\00:08:00.46 And we know that these highly refined fast foods 00:08:00.47\00:08:03.17 are more available than ever before. 00:08:03.18\00:08:05.01 And so we see an increased incidence of habituation 00:08:05.02\00:08:08.72 to these--to these high-fat, high-calorie dense foods. 00:08:08.73\00:08:12.07 And then an immediate effect you say on the brain, 00:08:12.08\00:08:14.68 in other words that when you eat this, 00:08:14.69\00:08:16.59 it's broken down so rapidly 00:08:16.60\00:08:18.13 and it really impacts you quickly? 00:08:18.14\00:08:19.71 There are central effects with drugs. 00:08:19.72\00:08:22.30 And there are immediate central effects 00:08:22.31\00:08:24.63 with drugs and with foods. 00:08:24.64\00:08:26.19 We are hardwired to really enjoy salt, fat, and sweet. 00:08:26.20\00:08:31.10 And when we get these in drug-like doses, 00:08:31.11\00:08:33.62 then it begins to have 00:08:33.63\00:08:35.00 a longer term affect on the brain. 00:08:35.01\00:08:37.81 So there is a similarity with drugs. 00:08:37.82\00:08:40.04 In that there are immediate central effects, 00:08:40.05\00:08:42.56 but with food, there are post-ingestive effects 00:08:42.57\00:08:45.69 that are very profound and long lasting as well. 00:08:45.70\00:08:48.99 So when you talk about the-- you have these two, 00:08:49.00\00:08:52.16 you know, increased availability 00:08:52.17\00:08:54.14 and you have these immediate effects 00:08:54.15\00:08:55.82 that come from the food. Right. 00:08:55.83\00:08:57.65 When you talk about these things, 00:08:57.66\00:08:59.64 there is also, you say, supporting things in your book. 00:08:59.65\00:09:03.51 You say that there are, you know, 00:09:03.52\00:09:05.13 properties that are also go along with this. Exactly. 00:09:05.14\00:09:07.73 In another words, the atmosphere or something 00:09:07.74\00:09:09.32 I don't know whatever it is. 00:09:09.33\00:09:10.35 Well, there is a reinforcing effect. 00:09:10.36\00:09:11.35 There are reinforcing effects of-- 00:09:11.36\00:09:14.20 The reinforcing property of a drug. 00:09:14.21\00:09:15.70 The more reinforcing the drug is, 00:09:15.71\00:09:18.36 for instance, cocaine versus nicotine. 00:09:18.37\00:09:20.77 A laboratory rat will self medicate 00:09:20.78\00:09:22.72 to death with cocaine, but not with nicotine 00:09:22.73\00:09:24.87 because the reinforcing property of the cocaine 00:09:24.88\00:09:27.41 is so much more potent than the nicotine. 00:09:27.42\00:09:30.12 And it's the same with food. 00:09:30.13\00:09:31.65 The reinforcing properties of these foods. 00:09:31.66\00:09:33.63 They are engineered to have an amazing mouth feel, the aromas. 00:09:33.64\00:09:37.47 There are-- there are-- 00:09:37.48\00:09:39.24 It's a whole science called Realogy and Flavorology 00:09:39.25\00:09:41.82 that enhance the hedonic properties 00:09:41.83\00:09:44.63 or the feeling of ecstasy or the pleasurable aspect 00:09:44.64\00:09:47.79 of just tasting, feeling, and smelling this food 00:09:47.80\00:09:50.74 that reinforces the central effects of that food. 00:09:50.75\00:09:54.05 And so it does create more of an environment 00:09:54.06\00:09:57.39 for developing a habit with that food. 00:09:57.40\00:09:59.49 So they're available and they are also immediate, 00:09:59.50\00:10:04.51 and they're-- and they're reinforced. 00:10:04.52\00:10:06.57 That's right. And then these are the similarities 00:10:06.58\00:10:08.82 with having a drug addiction. 00:10:08.83\00:10:09.92 That's why it says the, looks the same 00:10:09.93\00:10:11.64 in the brain when you're looking at it. 00:10:11.65\00:10:13.18 Right. Is there anything else 00:10:13.19\00:10:14.20 that's similar with drug addiction? 00:10:14.21\00:10:15.84 Well, yeah. Brain changes occur in addiction 00:10:15.85\00:10:18.54 with drugs and with behavioral addictions 00:10:18.55\00:10:21.20 or natural rewards that include mood, motivation, learning-- 00:10:21.21\00:10:26.01 Okay. Palatability centers, all of these things are altered. 00:10:26.02\00:10:29.38 Stress. Stress hormones are altered. 00:10:29.39\00:10:32.63 But there are also some really significant differences. 00:10:32.64\00:10:35.65 And the reason that this is of such great interest to me, 00:10:35.66\00:10:38.04 is because we see with lifestyle programs 00:10:38.05\00:10:40.44 and people that attempt lifestyle changes 00:10:40.45\00:10:42.67 who are suffering from obesity or various lifestyle problems, 00:10:42.68\00:10:46.17 that they have a very, very challenging time staying 00:10:46.18\00:10:48.83 with a program for a long period of time, 00:10:48.84\00:10:51.09 and there are some reasons for this. 00:10:51.10\00:10:52.96 We wanna understand those reasons 00:10:52.97\00:10:54.59 and educate people, so that they can better accomplish 00:10:54.60\00:10:57.30 their long term goals and have better compliance 00:10:57.31\00:11:00.93 than we're seeing right now. 00:11:00.94\00:11:02.44 Okay, so the similarities we've talked about-- 00:11:02.45\00:11:04.86 Right. Are availability. Right. 00:11:04.87\00:11:06.64 Very quick response. Right. 00:11:06.65\00:11:08.83 And then there is reinforcement to that. 00:11:08.84\00:11:11.19 And then there's actual brain changes, you've said. 00:11:11.20\00:11:13.13 Those are the four. That's right. 00:11:13.14\00:11:14.14 But--so that's the similarity between 00:11:14.15\00:11:16.35 a food addiction and a pharmacological addiction. 00:11:16.36\00:11:18.88 Right. But what are the differences? 00:11:18.89\00:11:21.43 Well, there are some very profound differences 00:11:21.44\00:11:24.39 in Antonio Convent and Marella Lice have studied 00:11:24.40\00:11:26.80 some of those differences as well as others. 00:11:26.81\00:11:30.22 One of the major differences 00:11:30.23\00:11:31.97 is that when you take these 00:11:31.98\00:11:34.48 pharmacologic doses of macronutrient, 00:11:34.49\00:11:36.52 and that's one of the reasons 00:11:36.53\00:11:37.52 I wanted to show this because they really is a-- 00:11:37.53\00:11:39.25 This big mega dose. 00:11:39.26\00:11:40.25 There's a big difference between 00:11:40.26\00:11:41.86 having a little bit of something 00:11:41.87\00:11:43.65 and a large amount like this is that it dysregulates 00:11:43.66\00:11:47.14 long term appetite control mechanisms. 00:11:47.15\00:11:50.76 There are short and long term appetite control regula-- 00:11:50.77\00:11:53.96 regulatory functions in our body. 00:11:53.97\00:11:57.37 The long term ones have to do with Ghrelin, 00:11:57.38\00:12:00.39 Lep-- Ghrelin, Leptin, and Insulin. 00:12:00.40\00:12:03.33 And so they help to generate the "I am satisfied" signal. 00:12:03.34\00:12:07.14 So a person with a food addiction 00:12:07.15\00:12:08.82 that has habituated themselves 00:12:08.83\00:12:10.43 to these large amounts of calorie dense foods, 00:12:10.44\00:12:13.72 the "I am satisfied" signal isn't heard. 00:12:13.73\00:12:16.92 And so they can eat to the point 00:12:16.93\00:12:18.73 where their stomach hurts. 00:12:18.74\00:12:19.83 It is so full of food and they can eat 00:12:19.84\00:12:21.64 so much calorie dense food. 00:12:21.65\00:12:23.63 They can eat 15 donuts. 00:12:23.64\00:12:25.73 But they don't feel or hear the message 00:12:25.74\00:12:28.18 you've had too much. 00:12:28.19\00:12:29.27 So in other words, this is actually worse sometimes 00:12:29.28\00:12:31.18 than a pharmacological addiction 00:12:31.19\00:12:33.25 or like some of these just one specific things 00:12:33.26\00:12:35.76 because they--they make what you're saying 00:12:35.77\00:12:38.25 is all kinds of things in the body go haywire. 00:12:38.26\00:12:41.42 That's exactly right. 00:12:41.43\00:12:42.49 And I suffered from bulimia myself for 20 years, 00:12:42.50\00:12:44.67 so I'm very intermittently acquainted with this process. 00:12:44.68\00:12:47.91 And I'm very grateful to have this information today 00:12:47.92\00:12:51.95 to understand and help people 00:12:51.96\00:12:53.68 know the challenge that they face. 00:12:53.69\00:12:55.32 And how much hope there is that no matter 00:12:55.33\00:12:57.50 how long they have struggled with this, 00:12:57.51\00:12:59.88 that they can overcome and that normalcy can be achieved. 00:12:59.89\00:13:03.87 But that is a very real challenge that people chase. 00:13:03.88\00:13:06.83 Another--that they are confronted with. 00:13:06.84\00:13:09.75 Another really significant impact 00:13:09.76\00:13:12.58 of these kinds of foods is lower brain energy 00:13:12.59\00:13:16.56 due to neural changes that take place in 00:13:16.57\00:13:18.91 what's called the limbic area of the brain 00:13:18.92\00:13:20.73 where the percolation of nerve impulses 00:13:20.74\00:13:22.73 takes place throughout the brain. 00:13:22.74\00:13:24.49 It starts to slow down. 00:13:24.50\00:13:25.85 It becomes impaired because of the little clusters 00:13:25.86\00:13:28.08 of dead cells that begin to occur down there. 00:13:28.09\00:13:30.59 We call that atrophy. 00:13:30.60\00:13:32.45 We call that-- it's the beginnings 00:13:32.46\00:13:34.06 of vascular dementia actually. 00:13:34.07\00:13:35.68 And so there's-- there's temporal atrophy 00:13:35.69\00:13:38.03 that begins to occur. 00:13:38.04\00:13:39.06 So there's a lower mental energy 00:13:39.07\00:13:42.61 for meeting challenges and change. 00:13:42.62\00:13:44.28 Now fortunately, again this is something else 00:13:44.29\00:13:47.03 that can be reversed swiftly with lifestyle changes 00:13:47.04\00:13:50.36 if it's caught early enough. 00:13:50.37\00:13:52.16 And that's really good news. 00:13:52.17\00:13:53.74 I mean, we're gonna talk more about 00:13:53.75\00:13:55.78 that when we come back after the break about the good news. 00:13:55.79\00:13:58.95 But you know, you have an excellent cadre of people 00:13:58.96\00:14:03.69 that are working together on this. 00:14:03.70\00:14:05.07 They've put together this new book on addictions. 00:14:05.08\00:14:07.69 All these things are able to be accessed 00:14:07.70\00:14:09.45 on your website, lifestylematters.com. 00:14:09.46\00:14:13.82 And people can just get more information 00:14:13.83\00:14:16.51 about all these aspects by accessing this-- 00:14:16.52\00:14:19.41 this excellent material. 00:14:19.42\00:14:21.37 When we come back, you're gonna give us some good news, right? 00:14:21.38\00:14:23.70 That's right. And if you're watching today 00:14:23.71\00:14:26.34 and you know someone or perhaps you're struggling yourself 00:14:26.35\00:14:29.20 with addictions or you think maybe you are. 00:14:29.21\00:14:32.49 Maybe you have a better handle on that. 00:14:32.50\00:14:35.07 But there is hope, there is help, 00:14:35.08\00:14:37.19 and we want to talk about that when we come back. 00:14:37.20\00:14:40.12 Are you confused about the endless stream 00:14:42.01\00:14:44.54 of new and often contradictory health information 00:14:44.55\00:14:47.89 with companies trying to sell new drugs 00:14:47.90\00:14:50.26 and special interest groups paying for studies 00:14:50.27\00:14:52.30 that spin the facts? 00:14:52.31\00:14:54.04 Where can you find a common sense approach to health? 00:14:54.05\00:14:56.99 One way is to ask for your free copy 00:14:57.00\00:14:58.88 of Dr. Arnott's 24 realistic ways to improve your health. 00:14:58.89\00:15:02.73 Dr. Timothy Arnott and the Lifestyle Center of America 00:15:02.74\00:15:05.79 produced this helpful booklet of 24 short, 00:15:05.80\00:15:08.48 practical health tips based on scientific research 00:15:08.49\00:15:11.19 and the Bible that will help you live longer, 00:15:11.20\00:15:13.66 happier and healthier. 00:15:13.67\00:15:15.41 For example, did you know that women who drink 00:15:15.42\00:15:17.88 more water lower the risk of heart attack? 00:15:17.89\00:15:20.54 Or that 7 to 8 hours of sleep a night can minimize 00:15:20.55\00:15:23.19 your risk of ever developing diabetes. 00:15:23.20\00:15:25.79 Find out how to lower your blood pressure and much more. 00:15:25.80\00:15:28.79 If you're looking for help, not hype, 00:15:28.80\00:15:30.28 then this booklet's for you. 00:15:30.29\00:15:31.90 Just log on to 3abn.org and click on free offers 00:15:31.91\00:15:35.50 or call us during regular business hours. 00:15:35.51\00:15:38.00 You'll be glad you did. 00:15:38.01\00:15:39.52 Welcome back. We've been talking with Vicki Griffin. 00:15:41.55\00:15:44.60 She is an author. And she has quite a personal testimony 00:15:44.61\00:15:48.45 that kind of undergirds today's presentation. 00:15:48.46\00:15:51.41 You've actually had to experience 00:15:51.42\00:15:53.03 some of these various issues yourself 00:15:53.04\00:15:54.55 and have seen that God is powerful 00:15:54.56\00:15:56.69 and can bring you out of addictive behaviors. 00:15:56.70\00:15:58.78 That's exactly right. So-- 00:15:58.79\00:16:00.91 And even behavior that's lasted for many years. 00:16:00.92\00:16:04.46 So He is powerful and there are tools. 00:16:04.47\00:16:07.10 And we're thankful for you and the simple solution team 00:16:07.11\00:16:11.31 that are in the Michigan Conference. 00:16:11.32\00:16:12.41 We're putting together so many excellent materials. 00:16:12.42\00:16:15.09 Let me just clarify something though. 00:16:15.10\00:16:17.90 We've talked a lot about the brain changes that can come. 00:16:17.91\00:16:21.36 And about the, you know, the parallels between 00:16:21.37\00:16:24.93 an addicted behavior and then like, you know, 00:16:24.94\00:16:27.83 such as, you know, nicotine or cocaine or heroin. 00:16:27.84\00:16:32.72 But then also about the more complicated addicted behaviors 00:16:32.73\00:16:36.15 that are like related to food. 00:16:36.16\00:16:37.69 You've said there're just all kinds of different systems. 00:16:37.70\00:16:40.17 Right. That are involved. 00:16:40.18\00:16:42.78 But it is true that these food behaviors 00:16:42.79\00:16:46.36 can have great costs in terms of some of the typical diseases 00:16:46.37\00:16:49.95 like heart disease and whatnot, isn't it? 00:16:49.96\00:16:52.21 Yes, food addictions are linked to the development of obesity, 00:16:52.22\00:16:55.42 diabetes, heart disease, 00:16:55.43\00:16:56.75 and while we wanna be quick to note 00:16:56.76\00:16:59.04 that not all food addicts or obese 00:16:59.05\00:17:00.95 and not all obese people are food addicts. 00:17:00.96\00:17:03.23 The syndromes are related and overlapping. 00:17:03.24\00:17:06.59 And there are some very, very interesting studies 00:17:06.60\00:17:10.63 coming out now, describing food 00:17:10.64\00:17:13.71 as the new substance 00:17:13.72\00:17:14.96 in a substance addiction we call obesity. 00:17:14.97\00:17:16.67 And so they're beginning to understand 00:17:16.68\00:17:19.57 that the neuroregulation of appetite 00:17:19.58\00:17:21.29 is a very, very real factor in the challenge 00:17:21.30\00:17:24.72 of achieving long term change. 00:17:24.73\00:17:26.71 Now you are living proof that people can overcome addiction. 00:17:26.72\00:17:29.89 Yes. And but maybe and hopefully in the second half, 00:17:29.90\00:17:34.83 we will not be able to cover everything, 00:17:34.84\00:17:36.32 but we'll skim the surface 00:17:36.33\00:17:37.63 and give some people some hope. Absolutely. 00:17:37.64\00:17:39.62 All right, so start us out on that journey. 00:17:39.63\00:17:42.45 Well, can a person overcome food addictions? Absolutely. 00:17:42.46\00:17:46.03 And, as we've shared in some other conversations 00:17:46.04\00:17:48.97 that we've had, our brains were designed 00:17:48.98\00:17:51.80 by our Creator for recovery, renewal, and resiliency. 00:17:51.81\00:17:55.36 There are changes going on in the brain all the time 00:17:55.37\00:17:59.13 depending on what we choose to pay attention 00:17:59.14\00:18:00.87 to and various simple, 00:18:00.88\00:18:03.08 but powerful lifestyle tools can begin to curve 00:18:03.09\00:18:06.69 those cravings and change 00:18:06.70\00:18:09.84 and alter the chemistry of the brain 00:18:09.85\00:18:11.72 so that it begins to be sensitive 00:18:11.73\00:18:13.51 to appetite signaling, it since, 00:18:13.52\00:18:15.46 it can break those-- those cravings 00:18:15.47\00:18:18.28 for the sugary fattery-- fatty foods 00:18:18.29\00:18:20.12 in high amounts. And I'd like-- 00:18:20.13\00:18:21.95 I saw one of these things in your book, 00:18:21.96\00:18:24.95 a quote by a guy-- User's Guide. 00:18:24.96\00:18:27.21 I believe his name--the "User's Guide to the Brain." 00:18:27.22\00:18:29.45 And he was saying this was actually structural changes 00:18:29.46\00:18:32.99 that can come as a result of decisions made. 00:18:33.00\00:18:35.10 That's right. He's a neuropsychiatrist 00:18:35.11\00:18:36.61 by the name of Dr. John Ratey, 00:18:36.62\00:18:38.20 and he's from Harvard University 00:18:38.21\00:18:40.93 and he wrote a book. 00:18:40.94\00:18:41.99 He's an addiction specialist. 00:18:42.00\00:18:43.13 He wrote a book called or entitled 00:18:43.14\00:18:45.42 "A User's Guide to the Brain." 00:18:45.43\00:18:47.03 And he says this, "Experiences, thoughts, 00:18:47.04\00:18:50.86 actions, and emotions 00:18:50.87\00:18:52.29 actually change the structure of our brains." 00:18:52.30\00:18:54.44 Isn't that a wonderful promise? 00:18:54.45\00:18:56.82 "Critics sometimes claim that a focus on 'ordinary' measures 00:18:56.83\00:19:01.26 like exercise and diet is too simplistic 00:19:01.27\00:19:03.64 to affect unordinary behavior. Not so. 00:19:03.65\00:19:06.91 There are many tools right at our fingertips 00:19:06.92\00:19:09.06 for changing our mental health, 00:19:09.07\00:19:10.76 both in correcting our problems and simply becoming 00:19:10.77\00:19:13.72 the kind of person that we want to be." 00:19:13.73\00:19:15.50 That is very helpful. Yes, it is. 00:19:15.51\00:19:17.01 So these--these very simple things, 00:19:17.02\00:19:19.46 I mean, what you're gonna share 00:19:19.47\00:19:20.83 may seem simplistic to some of our viewers, 00:19:20.84\00:19:23.12 but they actually are very powerful. 00:19:23.13\00:19:26.11 Here are the points that we wanna remember. 00:19:26.12\00:19:27.88 The Lord has not only given us power, 00:19:27.89\00:19:30.05 but He's given us tools. 00:19:30.06\00:19:31.63 He has a program that is going to actually help 00:19:31.64\00:19:34.90 to put us into a process of change over time 00:19:34.91\00:19:38.70 that is going to have amazing results 00:19:38.71\00:19:40.47 in terms of long term outcomes. 00:19:40.48\00:19:42.42 And the primary thing that we need to remember 00:19:42.43\00:19:45.28 is that addictions are learned. 00:19:45.29\00:19:46.97 They are learned associative behavior and-- 00:19:46.98\00:19:50.41 And can be unlearned. An addiction can be unlearned. 00:19:50.42\00:19:52.42 So let's go through this and then we'll come back. 00:19:52.43\00:19:53.95 "The brain is both resilient and plastic or malleable 00:19:53.96\00:19:58.34 and responds to new choices and patterns of activity. 00:19:58.35\00:20:02.44 Recovery, repair, and restoration 00:20:02.45\00:20:04.61 of critical pathways is possible, 00:20:04.62\00:20:07.12 although results will vary from individual to individual. 00:20:07.13\00:20:09.80 Improvements can begin to occur rapidly." 00:20:09.81\00:20:13.61 This is good news. It's very good news. 00:20:13.62\00:20:15.39 And when you--and when you start to replace 00:20:15.40\00:20:18.67 the puffed rice cereal and the hard candies 00:20:18.68\00:20:21.83 or orangeade for breakfast and replace 00:20:21.84\00:20:24.10 that with some of the high fiber foods 00:20:24.11\00:20:25.69 that's gonna immediately going to begin 00:20:25.70\00:20:29.70 to alter those-- those pathways. 00:20:29.71\00:20:32.36 It's going to make the portion of the hypothalamus 00:20:32.37\00:20:36.16 that's very sensitive to fasting and feeding 00:20:36.17\00:20:38.37 and very sensitive to ghrelin 00:20:38.38\00:20:39.73 and the appetite regulatory mechanisms. 00:20:39.74\00:20:42.06 It's going to begin to be responsive 00:20:42.07\00:20:44.70 to the lower amounts of concentrated sugars and fats. 00:20:44.71\00:20:49.55 Also when you have the soluble fibers in the diet, 00:20:49.56\00:20:52.22 it's going to increase satiety, 00:20:52.23\00:20:53.69 it's gonna cut the cravings, 00:20:53.70\00:20:55.47 it's gonna lower the insulin response, 00:20:55.48\00:20:58.65 so that your brain is gonna be more able to learn-- 00:20:58.66\00:21:00.90 And you're getting into the details of exactly 00:21:00.91\00:21:03.01 what we need to do-- Right. 00:21:03.02\00:21:04.08 But we go back to that list we were just talking about. 00:21:04.09\00:21:06.09 It said that these behaviors are learned 00:21:06.10\00:21:09.99 and they can be unlearned. That's right. 00:21:10.00\00:21:11.55 So addictions are not just something that, 00:21:11.56\00:21:14.17 well, it just happened to me. Right. 00:21:14.18\00:21:15.93 I'm just, you know, 00:21:15.94\00:21:17.22 I'm just this little ping-pong ball, 00:21:17.23\00:21:19.47 and I'm getting beat this way and that way. 00:21:19.48\00:21:21.72 No, it's something that was learned 00:21:21.73\00:21:23.67 and it can be unlearned. 00:21:23.68\00:21:25.64 Our brains are not passive, 00:21:25.65\00:21:27.74 gray cabbages victim to genetics, 00:21:27.75\00:21:31.40 nor are they subject to environmental influences 00:21:31.41\00:21:35.24 and just victims of whatever environmental forces 00:21:35.25\00:21:38.24 come to bear in our lives. 00:21:38.25\00:21:39.61 We can manage the genetic tendencies 00:21:39.62\00:21:42.48 and the environmental occurrences 00:21:42.49\00:21:45.13 that have happened in our lives. 00:21:45.14\00:21:46.33 We can manage them both 00:21:46.34\00:21:47.55 if we can only understand the power of implementing, 00:21:47.56\00:21:52.84 the power of choice, the power of will, 00:21:52.85\00:21:56.01 and I know that that just sounds exasperating 00:21:56.02\00:21:57.88 to some people, because people do 00:21:57.89\00:21:59.93 lose the power of choice. 00:21:59.94\00:22:01.98 Their motivated behavior just seems, 00:22:01.99\00:22:03.58 they called--it's called runaway motivation. 00:22:03.59\00:22:05.77 But we can build a bridge back to that power of choice. 00:22:05.78\00:22:08.80 God can give us the power that we need, 00:22:08.81\00:22:10.82 but we must instantly and immediately implement 00:22:10.83\00:22:13.63 the plan that He has for us, 00:22:13.64\00:22:15.05 so that we can sustain the results 00:22:15.06\00:22:17.39 of deliverance that He has for us. 00:22:17.40\00:22:19.18 So to unlearn this you gotta create 00:22:19.19\00:22:21.74 an environment for success and whatnot. 00:22:21.75\00:22:23.77 You have a list here of important strategies 00:22:23.78\00:22:25.87 for a long term success. We want to go through those 00:22:25.88\00:22:27.79 and then maybe talked about a couple of them. 00:22:27.80\00:22:29.35 Okay. The first one you were alluding 00:22:29.36\00:22:30.82 to was increase fiber intake to reset 00:22:30.83\00:22:34.65 metabolic controls and break cravings. 00:22:34.66\00:22:38.25 Very important. Increase antioxidant intake 00:22:38.26\00:22:41.83 by throttling up on a variety of fresh vegetables-- 00:22:41.84\00:22:44.91 That's gonna sweep up dead cells. 00:22:44.92\00:22:46.84 Beans, whole grains, nuts, and seeds. 00:22:46.85\00:22:49.35 So that's the sweep. 00:22:49.36\00:22:50.39 And then increasing activity, both mental and physical. 00:22:50.40\00:22:53.33 Adopt an active lifestyle. 00:22:53.34\00:22:55.29 Drink plenty of fresh water between meals. 00:22:55.30\00:22:58.87 This will displace the foods we need to avoid, 00:22:58.88\00:23:01.96 like junk food and highly refined foods 00:23:01.97\00:23:05.43 rich in saturated animal fats, 00:23:05.44\00:23:07.07 trans fats, and refined sugars. 00:23:07.08\00:23:09.68 Bottom line is, we want to adopt a strategy, 00:23:09.69\00:23:12.20 an approach, a way of thinking 00:23:12.21\00:23:14.39 that is gonna help us to crave the good stuff. 00:23:14.40\00:23:17.44 So that fiber resets the metabolic controls. 00:23:17.45\00:23:21.01 In other words, it slows things down or gives some them 00:23:21.02\00:23:23.39 a chance to get in control again. 00:23:23.40\00:23:25.15 So that now after-- after implementing 00:23:25.16\00:23:27.76 these changes on a daily basis, 00:23:27.77\00:23:30.44 you go and you have some huge triple 00:23:30.45\00:23:34.53 whatever fudge something, 00:23:34.54\00:23:37.33 and all of a sudden you just think, 00:23:37.34\00:23:39.98 "Wow, that's sickening. That's too much." 00:23:39.99\00:23:42.63 We want to get to the place 00:23:42.64\00:23:44.54 where we'd have a little bit of something sweet. 00:23:44.55\00:23:47.25 And we'd say, "That's enough. I'm satisfied." 00:23:47.26\00:23:50.19 And you can't really do that until you reset the controls 00:23:50.20\00:23:52.77 because you're out of control. 00:23:52.78\00:23:53.95 That's right. But you're not saying then what-- 00:23:53.96\00:23:56.13 you're saying a couple of things, that, you know, 00:23:56.14\00:23:59.21 an overcoming addictions to food is not-- 00:23:59.22\00:24:02.86 not like all or nothing, 00:24:02.87\00:24:03.96 because you still have to eat food. 00:24:03.97\00:24:05.78 It is a process. It is a journey. 00:24:05.79\00:24:07.84 And people that want to have the victory over their appetite 00:24:07.85\00:24:12.11 and over these kinds of problems, they'll say, 00:24:12.12\00:24:13.66 "Okay, from now on, I'm just gonna eat 00:24:13.67\00:24:15.64 six peeled grapes for dessert, 00:24:15.65\00:24:17.11 and I'm gonna walk 10 miles a day." 00:24:17.12\00:24:18.75 We've got to say realistic expectations. 00:24:18.76\00:24:21.03 Number one, we've got to understand 00:24:21.04\00:24:22.50 that there's a process of change 00:24:22.51\00:24:25.16 that's gonna start remodeling the brain 00:24:25.17\00:24:26.83 and it's going to get easier. 00:24:26.84\00:24:28.48 We liken it to remodeling a kitchen. 00:24:28.49\00:24:30.38 It's gonna get ugly before it gets better. 00:24:30.39\00:24:32.36 Yes, there will be withdrawals. 00:24:32.37\00:24:33.59 Yes, there will be cravings. 00:24:33.60\00:24:35.13 Yes, there will be of less of inability 00:24:35.14\00:24:37.65 to taste the subtle flavors and textures 00:24:37.66\00:24:39.61 of less refined hedonic foods 00:24:39.62\00:24:42.14 because even the palatability of this centers of the brain 00:24:42.15\00:24:45.66 are altered as a result of high exposure 00:24:45.67\00:24:48.44 to these kinds of foods. 00:24:48.45\00:24:49.49 But all of these things begin to change 00:24:49.50\00:24:51.98 as you swap out a wholegrain bread 00:24:51.99\00:24:54.46 and fresh peaches and strawberries 00:24:54.47\00:24:55.98 for the candy bar and orangeade, 00:24:55.99\00:25:00.40 as you begin to swap out and then you exercise 00:25:00.41\00:25:03.46 to increase mood and you start focusing 00:25:03.47\00:25:05.45 on those brain changes. 00:25:05.46\00:25:06.86 Slow but sure, those cravings begin to get lower 00:25:06.87\00:25:10.90 and lower and less and less 00:25:10.91\00:25:12.56 and you begin to appreciate and enjoy the high fiber foods 00:25:12.57\00:25:16.55 which keep you satisfied. 00:25:16.56\00:25:18.13 And so the actual mechanisms 00:25:18.14\00:25:19.80 for hunger begin to be restored. 00:25:19.81\00:25:22.32 And this is just an amazing 00:25:22.33\00:25:23.73 and wonderful process that takes place. 00:25:23.74\00:25:25.23 Now, in your own life, is this what occurred? 00:25:25.24\00:25:27.86 Oh, absolutely. I was severely bulimic for 20 years 00:25:27.87\00:25:30.97 from age 11 to age 31, and I am 52 years old now. 00:25:30.98\00:25:35.85 And so I have had this journey of learning 00:25:35.86\00:25:39.81 to make better choices and learning to crave 00:25:39.82\00:25:42.70 those better foods and understanding 00:25:42.71\00:25:44.94 how to utilize the lifestyle tools to control anxiety 00:25:44.95\00:25:49.81 and depression to improve mood to meet mental challenges. 00:25:49.82\00:25:52.57 All the things that used to drive me 00:25:52.58\00:25:54.64 to those poor food choices. 00:25:54.65\00:25:56.16 Now I'm learning better ways of managing stress. 00:25:56.17\00:26:00.55 My brain is more resilient because of the diet I eat. 00:26:00.56\00:26:03.20 So I'm better equipped and able to handle the stress of life. 00:26:03.21\00:26:06.98 And so it is a process and you don't get a 100% everyday. 00:26:06.99\00:26:11.08 You know, you can expect to have some problems 00:26:11.09\00:26:15.43 as you go along. But you don't give up. 00:26:15.44\00:26:18.04 You get up. You don't look it at it as, 00:26:18.05\00:26:19.56 "I want to get to my finish mark." 00:26:19.57\00:26:21.62 You remember that it's the journey 00:26:21.63\00:26:24.60 that creates the strength. 00:26:24.61\00:26:26.39 So, you know, you've created this book along with the team. 00:26:26.40\00:26:31.15 And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Yes. 00:26:31.16\00:26:33.24 I mean, there's definitely going through this-- 00:26:33.25\00:26:35.78 this list we have seems kind of, you know, 00:26:35.79\00:26:38.06 fast and quick and it is. Right. 00:26:38.07\00:26:39.37 When you look at it in the book, 00:26:39.38\00:26:41.46 it actually breaks it down, what you should do. 00:26:41.47\00:26:43.54 It's a whole process of recovery, 00:26:43.55\00:26:45.86 identifying the trigger, 00:26:45.87\00:26:47.15 identifying all the different things, 00:26:47.16\00:26:48.58 and then moving towards recovery. 00:26:48.59\00:26:50.40 Right. And it's a comprehensive plan, 00:26:50.41\00:26:53.08 you can learn about the book on your website. 00:26:53.09\00:26:56.45 Yes. Lifestylematters.com. 00:26:56.46\00:26:59.42 And, you know, I like to close programs with you, 00:26:59.43\00:27:02.29 Vicki, with a spiritual note. 00:27:02.30\00:27:04.70 We have about 30 seconds. 00:27:04.71\00:27:06.74 What spiritual hope can you give our viewers 00:27:06.75\00:27:10.00 that are either attempting to help someone 00:27:10.01\00:27:12.91 or in the midst of addiction themselves? 00:27:12.92\00:27:14.44 I love the promise of God in Romans Chapter 12 verse 2, 00:27:14.45\00:27:18.99 the Bible says, "Do not let your behavior 00:27:19.00\00:27:21.39 be like that of this world." 00:27:21.40\00:27:22.59 We've got to make a choice. We've got to make a choice. 00:27:22.60\00:27:24.77 "But be changed and made new in mind." 00:27:24.78\00:27:26.90 We're talking about changing our minds today. 00:27:26.91\00:27:29.30 "So that by experience," 00:27:29.31\00:27:30.67 and that's experience based plasticity. 00:27:30.68\00:27:32.80 That's what it called the neuroscience. 00:27:32.81\00:27:34.42 "So that by new experiences you may have knowledge 00:27:34.43\00:27:36.76 of the good and pleasing 00:27:36.77\00:27:37.93 and complete purpose of God in your life." 00:27:37.94\00:27:39.86 So the mind God is saying there can be renewed 00:27:39.87\00:27:43.39 and that's what all the research is showing, 00:27:43.40\00:27:45.13 that's what your book shows. 00:27:45.14\00:27:46.52 Thank you so much for being with us today. 00:27:46.53\00:27:48.83 I think this has been very helpful, not only to me, 00:27:48.84\00:27:51.89 and I know it's been helpful to you, 00:27:51.90\00:27:53.15 but also to our viewers. 00:27:53.16\00:27:54.71 Thank you for joining us. 00:27:54.72\00:27:56.23 We hope as a result that you have health 00:27:56.24\00:27:58.53 that lasts for a lifetime. 00:27:58.54\00:28:00.77