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Hello and welcome to
Health For A Lifetime.
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I'm your host Don MacKintosh.
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We're glad that
you joined us today
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and we are glad
you are watching 3ABN.
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We think that you grow
spiritually and hopefully
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you live longer and
that's what we are gonna talk
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about today longevity
and to talk with us about
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this important subject
is someone who has lived
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a number of years,
but he still looks young,
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which is also
good. Dr. George Guthrie,
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we're glad that you
are here with us today,
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thanks Don, and
you are a physician,
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you have been a
physician for a man,
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who only looks
probably might be 5-10 years,
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but you really been practicing
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for almost 25
years, that's right
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and you are now at
the Lifestyle Center
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of America in Southern Okalahoma
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and there you treat
all kinds of diseases
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from a lifestyle perspective,
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that's right, that's
right. We try to help people
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optimize their
lifestyle, so that they minimize
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their need of
physicians and medications.
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Oh! I am sure the
drug companies love you
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and, they don't
visit us anymore Don,
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they don't visit.
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Well look you
have a great webpage,
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I have been through
it there Lifestyle Center
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of America and goes
through the different programs
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and different things
that, that you offer their
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and many times
people come their to you
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because they are in
a acute disease stage,
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you know, they realize
they are going in the wrong way
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and you help them
reverse that, right,
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but wouldn't it be
better if they came
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and just learned
how to do things,
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so they could prevent the
things they are dealing with.
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Generally to
spend that much time
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and that much money
there needs to be a crisis,
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umm! umm! sometimes
what we do is called
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by people preventive medicine,
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but it's no more
preventive medicine and what
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the cardiologists does
when he puts in a stent
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for example, umm! umm!
we really doing lifestyle
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intervention on
disease, umm! umm!
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But this is your
chance as we talk today about
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how people can take a
perspective right now,
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may be I don't care
what age you are watching,
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you can learn from
today how to live hopefully
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for a longtime.
Living long and healthfully
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is really the what
prevention is all about,
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isn't it, that's
right. Now what is it,
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we talk about life
expectancy in order words,
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how long we
expect to live maybe,
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what is it that
really impacts that.
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Really our lifestyle affects it,
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but for us to understand
that is a bit of challenge,
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you see, as science
has tried to approach
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how to live a longtime.
Now, I know when preacher
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has come to living a long time
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it's a little different tack,
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we talk about
eternal life, right.
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But scientists are
working on extending really life
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and the quality of
life here on this planet
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and as a Christian I
like to think of that as
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extending my
opportunity for service,
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the joy of service
and this is part of
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eternal life of course.
But again as the scientists
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try to delve into this
whole field they have got
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some dilemmas especially
setting in human beings
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because they are
human beings too for example
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young fellow at 18
decides I'm gonna study
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how to live a long time,
so he goes to school studies,
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he is a bright fellow, he
has got his PHD by age 30,
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gets couple of
research projects under his belt
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and finally gets the big one
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at age 35 to study
ageing to do it right.
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He has got a start
prenatally before birth,
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and he is already
like 35 years old,
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and he is already
35, you see the problem
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is he is gonna die
before his subjects too,
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so it's little harder for
us to study our own species
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and we have had to
depend often on what we can
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learn from other species,
so how they gone about it,
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they look at, how
do scientists go about
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studying ageing then
since they are gonna die.
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Well in humans the
first thing we can do
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is observe right, Umm! Umm!
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and so you look
around and you say okay
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around the world
who lives a long time
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and we have the Vilcabambans,
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Equatorial Andes, we
have got the Georgians
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from the Caucasus mountains.
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We have got, okay now once,
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well okay now once, yes
the actually longest living
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people today as if as
far as the culture. Umm!
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So we look at these
populations and we say
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what is it about
their life that's different
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then everybody else
may be that has something
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to do with and living longer,
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as we look at them for
example in a group of Hunzer,
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they look to their cholesterols,
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they are like
between 120 and 150 somewhere
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wrong in there really
lower cholesterol levels,
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on average
people are more active
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they eat fewer
calories, umm! umm! So,
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we can learn some
things from looking at people
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who have lived a
longtime, but it's not consider
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a real good science,
we have improved any thing
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we have simply
observe some things, okay.
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So sounds like diet
has something to do with it
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and you mentioned
cholesterol levels, sure,
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sure. I of course diet
is associated with some
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diseases, diseases tend
to end our lives, so right.
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Now your message today is
probably gonna be you know
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people are gonna
think twice before jumping
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on the bandwagon, but you
are gonna be talking about
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caloric restriction
as relates to longevity.
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That's where
science has ended up
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pointing their finger.
It's a real, really a rather
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interesting topic as
we got to move towards
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an understanding. As
scientists have moved
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toward try and understand
how this works on humans
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one of things they
did was a very large study
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in Alameda County
in California just
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North of the Golden Gate Bridge
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one of the wealthiest
counties in the country.
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They got a whole
group of elderly folks,
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7000 of them who were
at least 70 years of age
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and they follow them
from 1965 to 1974, Umm!
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They ask them at the
beginning a whole bunch
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of questions
about their lifestyle,
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anything they could
think of that might make a
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difference is far how is people,
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you know, what
makes them live longer
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and what makes
people die sooner, umm! umm!
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Then over that period
of time they watch the
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death registry to
see who died from what
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and then went back
and look at the data,
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okay. So these were
these peoples habits,
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these died
sooner, these died later
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what can we do as
human beings to live longer,
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first step, so it's little
better then the observation
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and we have got
several of them here.
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The first one, I bet
you are not surprised at,
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it's don't
smoke, don't smoke oh!
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that is, people who
don't smoke live longer,
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well of course, we
know that right, smoking
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leads to cancer and puts
it at risk for heart disease,
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so that's
obvious right, umm! umm!
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Regular exercise, that
doesn't surprise me either,
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really. Regular
exercise helps us keep fit
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doesn't it, umm!
umm! Has keep active and
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we notice it in the
other populations those
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who live a longtime
it tend to be active.
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So regular exercise,
I mean watching a game
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show once or
may be was talk show
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and this guy was on
there and he was talking about
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being a 104 years
old and he was running
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or walking 2
miles a day and then
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they interviewed him
overhere and then 1 year
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he didn't do it and
he wasn't back, he died,
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okay. I guess that make sense.
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Exercise does
help obviously that was
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observational and
we would like a little
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stronger proof
then just a story, but,
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that was one. Another
one, appropriate weight,
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appropriate
weight, I bet you are not,
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you are weight is appropriate
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you are not as
likely to die sooner,
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that's not a
surprise either is it, no.
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I mean that's, what
is overweight associated
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with disease wise.
Oh! Diabetes, sure,
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hypertension,
heart disease big ones,
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yeah, probably
stroke, arthritis,
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so having a normal way
is a reasonable finding
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from this Alameda
Health Study, okay.
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Now the next one is a
bit of surprise it was
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to me when I saw
it, okay, what is it,
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regular breakfast, breakfast,
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what, what was
the association there,
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well you know
they don't tell us,
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all they said was people
who eat a regular breakfast
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live longer, umm!
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Now I can guess, I think
we have got some evidence
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of possible
explanations for that,
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umm! umm! one of them might be
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people who eat breakfast
tend to eat foods that are
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protective for
example more whole grains
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more fruit, umm!
umm! Another one,
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people who eat
breakfast actually
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eat fewer calories
during the day, umm!
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People who skip
breakfast eat more calories
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they kind a get that
starve sort of thing.
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So eating breakfast
has a decreased number
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of calories and I
have wondered if a big meal
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at night doesn't
really stress the system
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you all that food
coming in and if somebody
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goes to sleep and just
lays their with all that food
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doesn't it clog
up the system, umm!
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So one of my, and
it's just you know theory,
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is that people who eat breakfast
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or the ones who
haven't eaten a big meal,
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the night before
because if they eat a big meal
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the night before you are
not hungry in the morning,
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right, so may be it's
kind of a secondary marker
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for a big meal we don't know,
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umm! umm! certainly
not from this study,
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but there is some possibilities
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and so regular
exercise way breakfast
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anything else they found in
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the Alameda Health
Study. No snacks, no snacks,
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snacks, people
are signing out there
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they say Oh! no, no,
umm! umm! okay, no snacks.
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May be you've heard
it before I kind a like
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this little saying
the bigger the snacks
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the bigger the slacks, okay,
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I don't know who
originated it, but,
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probably true, you know
the snacks that we eat tend
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to be high in salt
and fat or high in sugar
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and fat and don't
the advertisement say
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you can't have
just one, well said,
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and they seem to be
right don't they yeah,
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they seem to be
right. So for some reason
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and it make
sense to me, umm! umm!,
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no snacks is
actually tends to make people
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a lot of people who live longer,
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okay. Well let's review
what we are seeing so far,
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okay, put up on a
graphic. No smoking,
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these are the things
that were done in the
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Sabbath Alameda Health Study.
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Regular exercise,
appropriate weight,
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regular
breakfast, no snacks and then
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the one we didn't cover,
7-8 hours of sleep a day.
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Now, I would
rather say night, a night,
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I don't like people to go
to sleep during my lectures,
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okay, so 7-8 hours of
sleep in a 24-hour period
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generally you
need, we need at night
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is associated
with living longer.
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So if we want
to live longer then
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these are the
things we really need
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to be looking at.
But these are lifestyle
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components that we
can do something about
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to help us live a little longer.
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We are talking
with Dr. George Guthrie,
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we are talking about longevity,
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how you can live a longtime
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and I think all of you
started interested in that
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and I think that if
we are not we should be,
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so when we comeback
we are gonna look at
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some groups that
actually live at a longtime
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the Okinawans and
when we comeback we look at
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even more factors that
may be you can incorporate.
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Join us when we comeback.
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shed a few pounds,
have you been on a diet
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Welcome back we are
glad you've joined us,
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if you haven't
been watching half
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we will forgive you, but
we will catch up a little bit.
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My name is Don
Mackintosh and welcome to
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Health For A
Lifetime. We have been taking
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about longevity and
we have been taking with
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George Guthrie, he
is a physician from
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Southern Okalahoma and
his whole purpose in life
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is to help people live
longer here and hopeful
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also have ever lasting
life as they come to know
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Jesus Christ is their savior,
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but let's look a little
bit at what we were reviewing
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or going over
just before the break.
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The Alameda Health Study
Dr. Guthrie were looking at,
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umm! right, and
it showed that those
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who live longer don't smoke,
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they get regular exercise,
have the appropriate weight,
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they eat breakfast,
they don't eat snacks
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or very little and
they sleep 7-8 hours
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in a 24 hour period.
These were some things
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and, these were
lifestyle choices, lifestyle
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related
situations that you can do
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something about
right. And at the Lifestyle
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Center of America
there in Okalahoma
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you try and remind the
people of this all the time.
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That's right,
that's what our work is.
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Well, let's look
now at this other group
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you mentioned and I
want to comeback you
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had mentioned the okinawans.
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We had started out
saying it is difficult for human
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beings to study
human beings getting older,
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right because they
die, and so we can look
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at older folks, we
can do it in a kind of
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observational sort of
a way then the Alameda
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Health Study was
another way to do it and now
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another study this
actually ongoing and it's
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designed in such a way that
it out lives any investigator,
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so you can go on, so
in other words say handed
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on to the next, handed
on to the next generation,
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is a look at the
population in this world
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that lives the
longest. The people who live on
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the Island of
Okinawa, Japanese Island
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small relatively poor folks,
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south of Japan have a
life expectancy longer
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than anyone else in the world.
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I heard the Seventh-Day
Adventists in California did.
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Well, I'm sorry
that is another country.
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Oh! okay, but as far
as looking at country,
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so we have, their
life expectancy is about
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81 years of age, so
that's quite impressive,
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81 years of age,
yeah. So as we look at
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what's different
about the Okinawans,
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we begin to learn some
interesting things, like.
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Well, number one,
Okinawans eat 40% fewer
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calories what Americans do,
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oh, so they don't lose
it's back to this whole
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idea a low caloric
intake is associated
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with longevity, you
introduced that concept,
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caloric
restriction, that's correct.
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They eat 17%
fewer calories then the
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average Japanese, so
even on the other island
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they eat more than
they do, that's right, okay.
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But, their the
calories they take well it's low
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they have
excellent nutrition, umm!
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so they are eating
less, but it's better.
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They are eating fewer
calories, but it's better
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and they have a
rather simple lifestyle
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there is a lot of truck farming,
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people have their own farms,
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they do their own
fishing, they are active,
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they are
preparing their own food,
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so excellent nutrition,
but restricted calories why
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Okinawan children have 36% below
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the Japanese recommended
intake for their children
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as far as calories
are concerned, okay,
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so they are in the low side.
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So they are unlike
not a high protein diet,
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but little protein
diet. Well, we are taking
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about calories,
okay, so low calorie diet,
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low calories that's
high in nutrient density,
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okay and they live
longer, umm! It's really had an
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impressive situation,
so the message is move
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to Okinawa, okay. I
suppose you don't have
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to do that to gain the benefit,
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but you can maybe
put in the practice some
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of the things, some of
the things have learned.
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Now if we look at the,
what happens in the Okinawa
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in experience is
they have these restricted
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calories, umm! umm!
We find that Okinawan
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old people are 75%
more likely to retain
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their cognitive
ability, and they don't loose
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their coconut, they
don't loose their coconut,
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their minds stays
clear. There is a 75% improved
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risk that is less
likely to get Alzheimer's.
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Woh! This said
interest to lot of us, yes,
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it's okay. There
80% few are breast and
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prostate cancers,
that's a big killer, so
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breast cancer, why
not, what is at 100 of every
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3 men gets it,
quite a few, in America,
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50% few are ovarian
and colon cancers, umm!
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and 50% few are hip fractures,
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it sounds like they
are on top of everything,
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well it does, it's
interesting the Okinawans
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take in on an average
500 mg of calcium a day,
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woh! The recommendations
for us here in this country
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for postmenopausal
women is 12 to 1500 mg.
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The Okinawans have
fewer hip fractures
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and they actually
take less calcium, which is
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kind of
interesting. Umm! I don't know
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if there is a connection
between caloric restriction
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and the bones,
but it may not be all
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osteoporosis may
not all be a calcium.
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So they must get their
calcium from green leafy
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vegetables, that's
where the calcium gets it,
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that's where the
calcium gets it, okay.
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So, interestingly
enough the Okinawans have 80%
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fewer heart attacks as well,
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80% this is a
interesting. Let's review those,
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we have some graphics
that help us review that
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because the people are saying.
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I wanna be Okinawan,
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let's, let's
write them down, okay.
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40% fewer
calories than Americans,
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so less is more. Umm! Umm!
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17% fewer calories
than the Japanese average.
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Caloric intake of
Okinawan children is 36% below
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the Japanese recommended intake,
00:19:01.64\00:19:03.85
so their total
cereals not the same as
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the total cereal
of the Japanese, okay.
00:19:06.62\00:19:08.74
And the Okinawans
have adequate nutrition,
00:19:08.77\00:19:11.79
so calorically dense
foods, not calorically dense,
00:19:11.82\00:19:16.79
nutritionally
dense, nutritionally,
00:19:16.82\00:19:18.70
calorically not so
dense, not so dense, okay.
00:19:18.73\00:19:21.72
A calorically
dense foods that would be
00:19:21.75\00:19:23.99
nutritionally poor
would be things like
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French Fries, potato
chips, I means it's a junk food,
00:19:27.13\00:19:29.69
so very little junk
food a lot of plant food.
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Morbidity is minimized
75% more likely to retain
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cognitive ability, they
don't loose their coconut,
00:19:35.88\00:19:38.35
80% few, fewer
breast and prostate cancers.
00:19:38.38\00:19:42.58
Umm! Umm! And you
said 50% fewer ovarian and
00:19:42.61\00:19:46.30
colon cancers, right.
And 50% fewer fractures
00:19:46.33\00:19:49.69
of the hip and the
average intake is like 500 mg of
00:19:49.72\00:19:54.78
calcium a day,
which is much lower, but
00:19:54.81\00:19:57.40
they are still doing better
00:19:57.43\00:19:58.40
in that hip
fracture, yes. And an 80%
00:19:58.41\00:20:00.17
fewer heart attacks, amazing.
00:20:00.20\00:20:01.72
It's a rather
interesting experience,
00:20:02.59\00:20:04.83
now I supposed
it's time to pull in the
00:20:04.86\00:20:07.94
information
that we have obtained
00:20:07.97\00:20:09.87
from animal
studies, okay. Because
00:20:09.90\00:20:12.86
it appears that
longevity in human beings as
00:20:12.89\00:20:15.50
we kind of pointed
out as in the Okinawans as
00:20:16.14\00:20:18.68
an example is related
to caloric restriction.
00:20:18.71\00:20:22.50
We have learned that
from experience with rats
00:20:22.94\00:20:27.50
and mites and
rodents. So if you decrease
00:20:27.53\00:20:31.01
their calories they live longer.
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Yes, you think about it,
they take a rat or mouse,
00:20:33.09\00:20:37.23
they put it in a
cage, they give it a wheel
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to run on, and they
give a food all the food
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at once and that's
rather boring sort of a life
00:20:42.23\00:20:44.42
I would suppose.
I have tried to put
00:20:44.45\00:20:46.20
myself in a rat's place
what would I do in a cage,
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eat, right, eat, what
we call that Ad Libitum,
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that is eat all
you want. Ad Libitum,
00:20:54.37\00:20:57.08
that sounds like a,
sound like a model of America.
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Eat what you want,
so when you allow mice
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or rats to eat all
they want, umm! umm!
00:21:03.99\00:21:06.33
They have a certain lifespan.
00:21:06.36\00:21:08.40
If you calorically restrict them
00:21:08.75\00:21:11.03
they actually live longer,
I think we have a graphic
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that kind of shows that
from some studies. Okay,
00:21:13.88\00:21:17.28
so here it is, which
one is the healthy way.
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Well, notice on the
top the green one there is
00:21:19.89\00:21:22.41
non-caloric
restricted, the CR means
00:21:22.44\00:21:25.25
calorically
restricted, and they lived only
00:21:25.28\00:21:26.70
what 30 minutes and it
looks like it's not minutes
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I think, has more to do,
months, with months, okay.
00:21:29.07\00:21:31.90
So, with eating all
they want they last, oh!
00:21:31.93\00:21:36.21
at about 35
months and then they eat,
00:21:36.24\00:21:39.72
they eat less. If they
eat 25% less you can see
00:21:39.75\00:21:43.59
it extends out closure
to 43, okay, with 55% less
00:21:43.62\00:21:47.77
it's getting at above
50 and of course 65% about
00:21:47.80\00:21:51.93
55. Now if you
go much beyond that,
00:21:51.96\00:21:53.80
you start talking
about malnutrition
00:21:53.83\00:21:55.92
and of course the death
rate starts to come sooner.
00:21:55.95\00:21:58.87
So there is a point
beyond, which you cannot
00:21:58.90\00:22:01.54
calorically
restrict. So the solution here
00:22:01.57\00:22:05.19
to the problem with
rats is feed them more.
00:22:05.22\00:22:07.19
Oh! you mean as far as
to kill the rats because
00:22:08.83\00:22:10.57
you don't want
them, right. If you don't
00:22:10.60\00:22:12.06
want them you just put
more food out in your house
00:22:12.09\00:22:14.49
you know we are in
3ABN, what may be, may be,
00:22:15.04\00:22:17.36
may be it would be
better to learn a lesson from
00:22:17.39\00:22:20.63
the rats, okay learn a
lesson from the rats, okay.
00:22:20.66\00:22:22.71
And when the rats are
in the rat race of life,
00:22:22.74\00:22:27.23
okay and they are
eating they have got all
00:22:27.26\00:22:30.69
the foods supply that they need
00:22:30.72\00:22:33.00
they are very likely to
die sooner same with us.
00:22:33.03\00:22:35.69
If we want to
live a little longer,
00:22:36.17\00:22:37.52
it would make sense
that we did a little more
00:22:37.55\00:22:39.58
of the hunt and
scratch that's the rats do.
00:22:39.61\00:22:42.88
You know in the
natural world they don't have
00:22:42.91\00:22:45.18
all they want, they
have to find this seed here,
00:22:45.21\00:22:47.43
find that seed
their, kind of run around
00:22:47.46\00:22:49.26
or they it's little
bit and I think the natural
00:22:49.29\00:22:52.70
state is more
calorically restricted
00:22:52.73\00:22:54.73
then the cage fed,
okay. And we were designed
00:22:54.76\00:22:57.93
to be that way, to be
outside, to be working,
00:22:57.96\00:23:01.62
to hunting gathering,
to grow our food, okay,
00:23:02.06\00:23:04.45
hunting,
gathering, moving, growing
00:23:04.48\00:23:07.75
and not eating as much as
many calories as we are now.
00:23:07.78\00:23:11.41
So how does it work there,
00:23:12.15\00:23:13.51
how does this
caloric restriction work.
00:23:13.54\00:23:16.00
That's a fascinating
study and scientists beginning
00:23:16.96\00:23:19.52
to understand it.
Let's see if I can put
00:23:19.55\00:23:22.23
together in simple language.
00:23:22.26\00:23:23.89
Many of us have talked
about getting vitamin E
00:23:25.68\00:23:28.79
and vitamin C, we probably our,
00:23:28.82\00:23:30.64
many of our
listeners are taking it now
00:23:30.67\00:23:32.55
to try to live
longer and put off disease.
00:23:32.58\00:23:34.69
Umm! Umm! Anti-oxidants are
00:23:34.72\00:23:36.15
supposed to keep
down the free radicals
00:23:36.18\00:23:38.39
those things that
would cause cancer well
00:23:38.94\00:23:40.58
and even kill cells why?
We think that free radicals
00:23:40.61\00:23:43.96
have something
to do with a normal
00:23:43.99\00:23:45.57
dieing off of cells. Free
radicals are very reactive,
00:23:45.60\00:23:50.33
very radical, very radical,
00:23:50.36\00:23:52.24
if we get it
loose they damage DNA,
00:23:52.65\00:23:56.73
RNA, proteins, they
damage things in the cells
00:23:56.76\00:24:00.91
and when there is
enough damage and even
00:24:01.29\00:24:03.38
the repair mechanisms
and the backup mechanisms
00:24:03.41\00:24:06.03
are damaged then the cell dies.
00:24:06.06\00:24:08.39
Umm! Umm! We start it losing
00:24:08.42\00:24:09.39
them one at a time and
when we loose too many,
00:24:09.40\00:24:11.59
we die. Umm! With
that's kind of the process.
00:24:11.62\00:24:13.96
So how this caloric restriction
00:24:14.48\00:24:17.25
address these
things, address the whole
00:24:17.60\00:24:19.54
business of free
radicals, how does it decrease
00:24:19.57\00:24:22.06
free radicals. Well,
the answer lies within
00:24:22.09\00:24:26.01
the mitochondrion,
okay those are the power
00:24:26.04\00:24:28.59
houses of the cells,
the little power houses
00:24:28.62\00:24:30.24
inside the cells have
within them the mechanism
00:24:30.27\00:24:34.22
to take the food that
we eat and turn it into
00:24:34.25\00:24:36.96
energy that our cells
use we call it ATP, okay.
00:24:36.99\00:24:40.86
That process, right,
each day in each cell
00:24:41.83\00:24:46.67
makes somewhere between
00:24:47.35\00:24:50.45
a 100,000 and 1
million free radicals,
00:24:50.60\00:24:54.55
oh!, so each cell
in your body making
00:24:54.58\00:24:56.61
all these free radicals.
Some people worry about
00:24:56.64\00:24:58.46
the free radicals in the air.
00:24:58.49\00:24:59.73
Let me tell you
there is nothing compared
00:24:59.76\00:25:01.13
to the free radicals
that are made just in
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normal physiology. I'm feeling
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more radical as we talk.
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The free radical,
the extra electron that's
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so active is then
passed on through the body.
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It goes into
the, it's picked up by
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coenzyme Q10 or
vitamin E, glutathione,
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vitamin C, Bioflavonoids
and finally it's dumped
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in the colon, in the fiber,
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which is the high
fiber diet should be a good
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dump for those free radicals.
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So that's what the way
the body deals with it,
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okay. Now, it's very
interesting you heard
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me say somewhere
between 100,000 and a million
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per day per cell, that's a lot,
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but think about it there
is a difference of 10 fold.
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If you did
something different you might
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make one tenth as
many free radicals.
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If you did
something else you might make
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10 times as many so
there is a range, okay.
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It ends up that when
we have too many calories
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more than we
need, our body gets very
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inefficient and it
makes many more free radicals,
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oh! I see, when we
are calorically restricted
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then, then it's
less, we make up to
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110th number of free radicals.
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In illustration on a
hot summer afternoon,
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you grab a big
glass of lemon to quench
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your thirst and
deal with the heat,
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an hour later you are
hotter than you were before
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why because all
that energy you buy
00:26:22.35\00:26:24.59
it don't know
what to do with it,
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it is trying to turn into heat.
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So, it didn't really
help. And illuminate would
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not be good as
well, water, exactly.
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So, caloric restriction
helps us live a longtime,
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but increasing the
efficiency decrease
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in the free radicals and
it's true the anti-oxidants
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especially those it
come in plants can be very
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helpful in helping us
maintain good cell health
00:26:41.58\00:26:45.95
throughout our
body so we can live
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a long time and enjoy it.
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Is it too late to start?
That's a excellent question.
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Scientists have
been trying to answer
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that question and I
don't know they have
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the answer
completely, but a couple,
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a few months ago, I
ran across an article
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where they were
studying fruit flies, okay,
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and they found
that no matter how late
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in the fruit flies life
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they did caloric restriction,
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the fruit fly
still in the same height.
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So, I don't know
whether that will
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turn over to be same for humans,
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but it were fruit flies
and we are starting there.
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I don't think
it's too late, good.
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If it is good for the
fly, it might be good for you
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and I. Yeah! Thank you so much
00:27:25.90\00:27:28.05
George for joining
us. Dr. Guthrie from
00:27:28.08\00:27:30.52
Lifestyle Center of America,
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