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to promote good health
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Welcome to
Health For A Lifetime,
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I'm your host Don Mackintosh.
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We're glad that
you joined us today.
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And today, we
are gonna be talking
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with Dr. George Guthrie.
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Dr. Guthrie is
from Southern Oklahoma,
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where he serves as
the medical director
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for the Lifestyle
Center of America.
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Lifestyle Center
of America treats
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all kinds of
different lifestyle diseases.
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That's very true Don, we
like to optimize people's
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lifestyle so as to
minimize their disease
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and minimize their
dependence on medication.
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You put them in
control, not the doctor.
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That's what we are
trying to do, educate them,
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teach them how it works
and then share with them
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their responsibility
and encourage them to do it.
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And you know that's
refreshing for me to talk
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to someone like you
because and I don't mean
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to stereotype, but
you know someone that has
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your training you of
course had done over 20 years
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as a medical practice,
you taught in the school
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of health. You know,
you know, we can go through
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the alphabets too, we have
a lot of different letters,
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but you could be
really focusing on something
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that's more monetarily
driving, driven, but this is,
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this is the service that's
taking all that information
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and trying to put
someone else in the driver seat
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and I, I appreciate it,
it's back to the basics I was
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actually thought as most
doctors are in their training.
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A non-drug therapy comes
first, I think many doctors
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get discouraged
because the patient comes in
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and says I want a pill usually.
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And today we are gonna
be talking about something
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that's, that you
can't buy over-the-counter,
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I guess. That's right.
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And talk about something
that, that actually goes
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away from taking
anything over-the-counter.
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I guess that's right.
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And this is the
subject of fasting.
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And fasting and
its medical benefits
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and maybe some
dangers as well. Sure.
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But what exactly is
fasting. I know you look
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at this from a, from
different perspectives.
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Yeah, well I often
ask people what do you
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think of when you
here the word fasting.
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Ah! Ah! Try it.
Do you think well,
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I think I'm gonna have to
deprive myself for a longtime.
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Deprivation of some kind
sure, other people think of a
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religious experience,
like we went and we fasted.
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Like Muslims 40 days and night.
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Fasting and pray or the
Muslims have their Ramadan
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sort of a thing, where
they don't eat during the day,
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but then they eat at
night. I hear things like fruit
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fast for example
and that would mean,
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what would that mean.
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Just no fruit or
fasting, only fruit, just have
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fruit or just
fruit juice or breakfast.
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Well, yeah, that's a
little different one. Okay.
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Or like entertainment
fasting like no Television,
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I heard that. Okay,
so, so some sort of lent.
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Lent okay,
abstaining from something. Okay.
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Another word that often
comes up is cleansing or
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purification, but
as I talk about fasting
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I would like to talk at
not from those that perspective
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at all, but from the
perspective of physiologist,
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well. A medical perspective.
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A medical perspective
from, medical perspective from a
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perspective of physiology
what is it mean to reach
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the fasting state.
What is the fasting state?
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May be some of us
have never reached that
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before in America since
we have so much obesity,
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it could very well
be. I think you right,
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isn't that a fact. So,
what is medically speaking.
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Normally, the energy that
we use goes into our mouth
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into our stomachs, when
our body is taking it from the
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stomach or the
intestines and using its energy
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that's kind of the
normal feeding state.
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The opposite of that
now is when there is no food
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in the intestines supplying
energy and the body has to
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begin to bring
energy in from storage.
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So, the fasting state
is really a change in the
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hormone milieu in
the body to have energy
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come from storage rather
than from the intestines.
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So, when your stomach is
empty and your colon is empty
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and whole elementary
canal, canal is empty
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when that gets
empty you move from being,
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I don't know
that we can say empty.
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Don't, but at least
the calories are taken
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out and just the waste is left.
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Now how long does it
take to get to that state,
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since none of us
have never experienced it,
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so many of us have not.
The average and it depends
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on the meal about
6-8 hours. A fatty meal,
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the heavy meal will take
longer and a shorter meal
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for example if you made
quotes meal of an apple,
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it would be a shorter time
then eight hours. Umm! Umm!
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That's generally the timeframe
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we look at 8-12 hours. So,
is this good or is this bad,
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the fasting state. Well,
that's an excellent question,
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I suppose it depends
on where you are when you
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are fasting. If I were,
let's say in a prison war
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camp somewhere and I was
wasting away this fasting
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state would not
be a very good thing
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because I would be eating
myself up not only does the
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body take energy out of storage
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as in fat out of storage,
but it will actually begin
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to eat up muscle
that would be a bad thing.
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Okay. But if I happened
to be an overweight American,
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umm! umm!, that I would
like to lose some weight to get
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rid of some disease
that maybe is made worse by
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the way from joint pain,
the diabetes, the hypertension,
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the heart
disease whatever it maybe
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and maybe that fasting state
is not as much of an enemy,
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as I thought it
was. It's interesting,
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you know, I was reading
the history once about those
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concentration camps and
it was during that time that
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they started to understand
that some of our western
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diseases could be
reversed. Yes, yes.
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So, I guess in the
Lowlands and Belgium
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and all this
different places when they,
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when the enemy came
through and took all
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the fruit stores everybody
went from feasting to fasting
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and that's when
they figured out.
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Diabetes, hypertension,
heart disease, obesity
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is kind of fade
way when there is not
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enough energy to go around.
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So, you, you would even
really may be know as much
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as you do or there at
the Lifestyle centre if there
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had been like a fast it
came because of the war.
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Now we are, we are
not recommending war.
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No, we are recommending war and,
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but we learned a lot from it.
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And you right, much of the
research on fasting actually
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started around that
time, well that too.
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So, you know
what are the benefits.
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Let's say we are
one of those few that,
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well many in
America that probably could
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benefit little fasting.
What are the benefits that
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you would suggest for us?
Several months ago I did a
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literature search to try
to and assure it I can find in
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literature that would
give me some idea and I found
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some other interesting things
a fasting maybe beneficial
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for helping the the body
to fight bacterial infections,
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a may be decrease rheumatoid
arthritis that is how treat,
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rheumatoid arthritis.
Increase the melatonin in
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the body; may be
help hypertension and even
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improve in some resistance
that is type 2 diabetes.
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That's quite mouthful you
went through that, but let's
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go back and take one of
the time, what about your
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saying it decreases the
possibility for infection.
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How is that work?
Well, your body's ability to
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fight infections is actually
better when your are in the
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fasting state if it's a
bacterial infection the same
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is not true of
a viral infection.
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So, if you have a virus
you need to eat, if you have a
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bacteria you don't need
eat. Well, that you know,
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the old wise tale, now we
heard for years is there is
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something like starve the
fever free to call right and
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either some scientific
bases for that old line.
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So, if you have a bacterial
infection it's really best to
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kind of knock off eating.
It's most people actually
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loss their appetite
and maybe the body itself
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saying that's better, the
fight blood cells as they are
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fighting in a bacterial
infection will release little
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messengers, chemical
messenger that would make
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somebody not want t to eat,
so they generally loss their
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appetite and its reasonable
when they were fighting a
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bacterial infection to
decrease the food we take in.
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Fasting state maybe helpful.
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And than Rheumatoid arthritis,
and rheumatoid arthritis
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that's a mouthful
yeah, how does that work?
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Rheumatoid arthritis is a
autoimmune disease that is
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the body gets immune
gets confused, the immune
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system has two sides one
side of it says go get it and
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the other side
says oh! no you don't.
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Okay, And, and if that
gets out of balance let say a
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little weak on the oh!
no you don't side the body
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is immune system may go
out and begin to fight itself,
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if its fighting
itself as in joints.
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We call it Rheumatoid
arthritis and there are some
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reports in the medical
literature of people having
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improvements in the
Rheumatoid arthritis from
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fasting up to and generally
atleast the one side scene
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or what about 10, 12, 14
days rather long period of
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time with just water and
apparently his immune system
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comes back and balance.
It's not something I have
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error recommended for
anybody but it is something
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I found in the
literature, I certainly wouldn't
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do it at home. I think
you need a doctor supervision
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for that because there
are some significant problems
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we will talk about
those little later.
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Do you fasting as the
part of work you do at the
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Lifestyle centre. Yes we
do, I use a little bit of that.
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We will talk a
little more about that,
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yes, yes lets do that
So, we have a fighting
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bacteria, we have
sometimes as a treatment
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for rheumatoid arthritis
and then the third one you
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mentioned was
melatonin. What is melatonin?
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What disease? Well,
when people think melatonin
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they think sleep
right. Many times they will.
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And many people when
they are not able to sleep
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will take a
melatonin supplement, okay.
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Well, melatonin is made
in the brain by a little
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gland called pineal
gland, Pine cone, yeah,
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okay, pine cone, to help
the brain sleep, melatonin
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is a rest and rejuvenation
hormone. A lot of folks
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don't know that when
your in the fasting state.
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Your intestinal
lining will actually make a
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comparatively
larger amount of melatonin
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I have noticed myself when
I am fasting as I eat that I
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sleep better and I have
heard the same from many
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others who are
trying to do the same thing.
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So, fasting increases
melatonin in the body and
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may actually help with
the healing and rejuvenation
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and of course the sleep.
Well, I heard that if you eat
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something late at night
that cuts down the melatonin
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production too, What's I
guess would go fasting at
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night if it called
breakfast. Yeah that's right.
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Okay, melatonin, rheumatoid
arthritis, fighting infections
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but than you had
another, what is the next one?
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Hypertension. Okay
hypertension. High blood
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pressure, some interesting
work reporting that people
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with high blood
pressure who fasted for 10 to 11
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days, 90 percent of
them were able to lower their
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blood pressure down into
the normal range, significant
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drops, it's a
rather, how do they work?
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Interesting concept, well
I don't that we understand
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exactly how it works, I
have got some ideas as far
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as how physiology might
go together but the study
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was, that I have reviewed
did not tell us how that
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happens it simply
reported that it does happen.
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So, fasting can help
bring that blood down and
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I guess, that every point
is brought down it is very
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significant and then you
can really a reduction in
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lot of problems
that hypertension causes.
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Right, now closely tight
to hypertension is another
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disease. Diabetes,
diabetes okay, the diabetes,
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hypertension, heart disease
and these are all kind of
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tied together now
in our understanding
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along with obesity. My
uncle, uncle Al, okay Al
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was a eye
specialist, your dad's brother
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your mom's brother? My
dad's sisters husband okay,
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okay, uncle Al we just
love uncle Al one day he went
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out and got in
Aeroplane crash and died.
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So, he has all these
medical books and when I go to
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medical school the family
says why don't you take it?
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Well, it ends that
uncle Al was a collector of
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old medical books, at
least a few, he had a couple of
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them that I had
really enjoyed kind of kept
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one of the them was
battle field surgery.
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You know world war
1, okay this gonna be
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interesting and the
other one good for medical,
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was entitled the starvation
treatment of diabetes.
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It's publication date
was 1915, 1915 that's a long,
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I don't know I think
they knew what diabetes was
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then, did they? They
all know what diabetes was,
00:13:51.43\00:13:53.54
and they may have
been diagnosing diabetes by
00:13:53.57\00:13:56.01
tasting urine to see it if
it was sweet but they knew it
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was a high sugar problem.
Well, that sounds like, but
00:13:58.73\00:14:01.42
there was no such thing,
it's insulin in those days that
00:14:01.45\00:14:03.71
wasn't until what 1921,
1923 that Banting and Best
00:14:03.74\00:14:08.09
discovered insulin.
So, in those days the most
00:14:08.12\00:14:11.74
effective treatment
of diabetes was this they
00:14:11.77\00:14:19.31
called a starvation
treatment and starvation
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sounds a lot like the fasting
state physiologically. Yes.
00:14:22.19\00:14:25.57
That's right. And it's
a very interesting kind of
00:14:25.60\00:14:28.99
description, you
know, it was first with one
00:14:29.02\00:14:31.71
of the believe embed,
then we said well let them go
00:14:31.74\00:14:36.42
ahead and walk around is
like I will do better when
00:14:36.45\00:14:40.32
they exercise and they
starved until their blood
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sugar and the sugar in
the urine which is normal and
00:14:43.29\00:14:46.41
it goes away. Now tell
me that was an interesting
00:14:46.44\00:14:49.50
concept you see in those
days they didn't even know
00:14:49.53\00:14:52.07
there is type 1, and
type 2, diabetes. They thought
00:14:52.10\00:14:54.26
there were the same thing
its high sugar for those who
00:14:54.29\00:14:57.56
had type 1 diabetes
where the pancreas is dead,
00:14:57.59\00:15:00.03
there is no insulin while
finding insulin was the cure
00:15:00.06\00:15:04.82
and their people live
today because of that insulin
00:15:04.85\00:15:08.29
discovery but type 2
diabetes which we now
00:15:08.32\00:15:11.28
understand has a problem
where high insulin levels to
00:15:11.31\00:15:14.69
start with. We have
discovered that not only
00:15:14.72\00:15:17.77
high blood sugar problem
but high insulin is also part
00:15:18.41\00:15:21.95
of the problem. Now
kind of coming full circle,
00:15:21.98\00:15:25.69
it's reasonable to come
back to this fasting business
00:15:26.40\00:15:29.29
or starvation as they called
in harbor and they say is this
00:15:29.32\00:15:32.44
dealing with lowering
insulin and it sure looks
00:15:32.47\00:15:35.55
like it is and
our experience had
00:15:35.58\00:15:37.41
Lifestyle Center of America.
We will place people on a
00:15:37.44\00:15:40.77
relative short fast
about three days with water and
00:15:41.94\00:15:46.34
than watch that
insulin resistance improve.
00:15:46.37\00:15:49.91
So, this is a old but now
new treatment for diabetes
00:15:51.28\00:15:55.86
fasting. We are talking
with Dr. George E. Guthrie,
00:15:55.89\00:15:59.14
we are talking about
fasting and we talked about some
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of the benefits and when
we come back we are gonna
00:16:02.35\00:16:04.65
talk about some of the
dangerous so get both sides
00:16:04.68\00:16:07.08
of the story. Join
us when we come back.
00:16:07.11\00:16:08.48
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Welcome back we
are being talking with
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Dr. George E. Guthrie,
we are being talking about
00:17:12.04\00:17:13.98
fasting and the benefits
of fasting and I will just
00:17:14.01\00:17:18.26
review that list with you
in our graphic we will look it
00:17:18.29\00:17:21.72
here we have some
benefits Dr. Guthrie, fighting
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bacterial infections
we talked about that,
00:17:24.06\00:17:26.37
increasing melatonin from
the GI tracks we give that
00:17:26.40\00:17:29.51
sense of rejuvenation and
rest, decreasing rheumatoid
00:17:29.54\00:17:33.20
arthritis which was
fascinating decreasing
00:17:33.23\00:17:36.16
blood pressure and
Reversing insulin Resistance
00:17:36.19\00:17:40.26
is at a good list. Sure
right, its obviously not
00:17:40.29\00:17:42.93
exhaustive but it's some
of the things we found that
00:17:42.96\00:17:45.72
maybe benefited from
these fasting state and you said
00:17:45.75\00:17:49.04
you know you practice at
the Lifestyle Centre of America
00:17:49.07\00:17:51.81
in Southern Oklahoma and
there your will bread and
00:17:51.84\00:17:56.09
butter sort speak well what
you known for, you treat all
00:17:56.12\00:17:59.89
of different types of
things but I think when people
00:17:59.92\00:18:02.60
think about diabetes and
they think about where to
00:18:02.63\00:18:05.14
get treated from a lifestyle
perspective many times,
00:18:05.17\00:18:07.68
Lifestyle Center in
America is number one on that.
00:18:08.72\00:18:10.48
And so you use actually
you said two or three days
00:18:12.26\00:18:15.21
fast you watch the
sugar has come down and then
00:18:15.24\00:18:19.02
you also said that the
insulin resistance gets
00:18:19.05\00:18:23.36
better what is that mean
insulin resistance and what
00:18:23.39\00:18:25.40
you mean by improving it?
Insulin has a job of going to
00:18:25.43\00:18:29.72
the cells and saying
open up and let the energy in
00:18:29.75\00:18:32.63
when the cells are insulin
resistant they are saying
00:18:33.41\00:18:36.76
when the insulin comes
no. No thank you or even
00:18:36.79\00:18:39.91
absolutely not, I don't want
any of that stuff, now if you
00:18:39.94\00:18:42.72
have got some muscles
example the thigh muscles
00:18:42.75\00:18:45.36
that are to use to
working when they been seating
00:18:45.86\00:18:47.40
round doing nothing for
a long time they, they have
00:18:47.43\00:18:51.45
got this insulin resistance,
they, they all the foods
00:18:51.48\00:18:55.22
come in, they don't
need it, so they are saying
00:18:55.25\00:18:57.27
no thank you. If you
take the food away than have
00:18:57.30\00:18:59.96
them moving around
the muscle has work to do
00:18:59.99\00:19:02.96
it gets hungry
and that turns that
00:19:03.24\00:19:05.60
insulin resistance around.
Generally, it arrives at the
00:19:05.63\00:19:07.56
short period of time that
helps to decrease the need
00:19:07.59\00:19:11.27
for medications for example.
Fascinating so your uncle Al
00:19:11.30\00:19:14.68
was on the
something with that old book.
00:19:14.71\00:19:16.31
Hey let's look than, we
looked at the benefits but
00:19:16.97\00:19:19.20
are their dangers to fasting
and I think you want to talk
00:19:19.23\00:19:22.58
with us a little bit about
that. Yes, I, we are afraid
00:19:22.61\00:19:26.85
of how people go long
time fasting we really
00:19:26.88\00:19:29.67
start and this is the
major problem with time when
00:19:29.70\00:19:32.54
we are not food and we
lead it to earlier your
00:19:32.57\00:19:35.51
body starts to eat up
muscle and it go actually
00:19:35.54\00:19:39.23
eat up not just
skeletal muscle but your heart
00:19:39.26\00:19:41.83
muscle. If you are in the
fasting state. So, little bit
00:19:41.86\00:19:45.31
good and lot can be bad,
yes it is a matter effect
00:19:45.34\00:19:49.08
there is a greatest
amount of muscle loss is often
00:19:49.50\00:19:52.57
early in the fast
and the second or third
00:19:53.22\00:19:56.76
day, the first day is
not a such a problem and then
00:19:56.79\00:19:59.10
your body goes into the
kind of this safety mode
00:19:59.13\00:20:02.99
where it trying to protect
and you don't tend to loss
00:20:03.02\00:20:05.58
as much muscle after
those second and third
00:20:05.61\00:20:08.23
day but those first
two days can really be
00:20:08.26\00:20:10.70
dilemma. So, you have
some most of here some
00:20:10.73\00:20:13.46
what would you call
them minerals that you loss
00:20:13.70\00:20:16.40
when you go on a fast.
Yes in, don't try this at
00:20:16.43\00:20:19.40
home, okay, that sort
of thing. Because when
00:20:19.43\00:20:22.25
your fasting not only
do you have the possibility
00:20:22.28\00:20:25.28
of losing muscle but
you also likely to be low in
00:20:25.31\00:20:30.93
things like magnesium
or potassium and if people
00:20:30.96\00:20:35.02
are drinking a lot of
water when they are fasting
00:20:35.05\00:20:38.00
they may actually
deluge down the sodium, these
00:20:38.29\00:20:41.02
are the three minerals
that are generally find
00:20:41.05\00:20:43.66
problems within the
people that I am trying to
00:20:43.69\00:20:45.74
help through
this therapeutic fast
00:20:45.77\00:20:48.64
that we offer to people come to
00:20:48.67\00:20:51.26
Lifestyle Center of
America. So, what's the big deal
00:20:51.29\00:20:52.26
with magnesium
levels going well.
00:20:52.27\00:20:54.41
Well, magnesium is
generally low in people
00:20:55.08\00:20:58.35
anyhow in America.
Because there is not
00:20:58.38\00:21:01.99
enough of in your
diet it's a general rule.
00:21:02.02\00:21:04.28
Magnesium in our
diets most of it should come
00:21:04.31\00:21:07.15
from plants and
people are not eating enough
00:21:07.18\00:21:09.54
plant so they tend not
to have enough magnesium,
00:21:09.57\00:21:12.45
some interesting work
done by a fellow by the
00:21:12.48\00:21:14.58
name of Larry Reznik,
using magnetic resonance
00:21:14.61\00:21:17.50
imaging to look inside
the cells of the body not just
00:21:17.53\00:21:21.75
the blood test. The
blood test it doesn't correlate
00:21:21.78\00:21:24.37
but we are talking
about inside the cells of the
00:21:24.63\00:21:26.36
body. It demonstrates
that people with diabetes,
00:21:26.39\00:21:29.64
hypertension,
heart disease, obesity,
00:21:29.67\00:21:33.22
pretty much
across the board have low
00:21:33.56\00:21:36.03
intracellular magnesium
and the pills that people
00:21:36.39\00:21:39.70
take. The water pills
for example tend to suck
00:21:39.73\00:21:42.18
magnesium out of the
body. So, its already a
00:21:42.21\00:21:44.60
low bit for others, so
it tends to be low, you drop
00:21:44.63\00:21:46.99
it low, you drop it low
or need have with muscle
00:21:47.02\00:21:48.61
cramps and fatigue and people
just don't feel very good.
00:21:48.64\00:21:53.36
And you can give
actually a magnesium shot
00:21:53.93\00:21:55.58
for cancer. Oh! why
do that, a supplement
00:21:55.61\00:21:58.60
by mouth works
fine. Okay, well, I like
00:21:58.63\00:22:01.83
giving shots. You like
shots okay. As a worse,
00:22:01.86\00:22:04.28
I guess I expect. Potassium,
Potassium is another it's
00:22:04.31\00:22:08.64
similar to the
magnesium remember that many of
00:22:08.67\00:22:11.94
the water pills that
people take for their
00:22:11.97\00:22:13.95
hypertension or
congestive heart failure
00:22:13.98\00:22:16.31
also suck potassium
out of the body and low
00:22:16.34\00:22:19.57
potassium can lead to
problems with muscles,
00:22:19.60\00:22:23.89
and the heart and
all kinds of things.
00:22:23.92\00:22:26.43
So, I don't recommend
that people go on long
00:22:26.46\00:22:29.39
fast without some
medical supervision and
00:22:29.42\00:22:33.44
sodium when it goes
low. Oh! people tend to get
00:22:33.47\00:22:36.33
really weak and
sorrow, I mean not happy.
00:22:36.36\00:22:39.14
Alright, and that, and
that I guess you know when
00:22:39.95\00:22:42.44
ever I talked to
someone who had low sodium they
00:22:42.47\00:22:44.31
just cannot start to act
kind a loopy. Yes, I like
00:22:44.34\00:22:47.21
that probably good work
for them. So, the danger
00:22:47.24\00:22:50.85
is then just to summarize
them, I think we have a
00:22:50.88\00:22:52.58
graphic to
summarize them we have dangers
00:22:52.61\00:22:55.04
that we mentioned
low magnesium, low
00:22:55.07\00:22:56.93
potassium, low sodium
and loss of muscle which
00:22:56.96\00:23:00.72
you said it happens
in the first three days.
00:23:00.75\00:23:02.37
While the second and
third day the most much
00:23:02.40\00:23:05.09
less on the first day
but the second and third day
00:23:05.12\00:23:07.59
where they suppose
to eat that is correct.
00:23:07.62\00:23:09.32
So, how do you do fasting
at the Lifestyle Center of
00:23:09.78\00:23:14.79
America. Well, we
don't offer to everybody
00:23:14.82\00:23:17.45
I don't' recommend that
people do if for example
00:23:17.48\00:23:20.16
to loss weight. The reason
I think its okay for people
00:23:20.19\00:23:24.10
with type 2 diabetes to
do because their insulin
00:23:24.13\00:23:25.97
level are high. Insulin
tends to hold the muscles
00:23:26.00\00:23:28.57
and I think it's much
safer. So you don't do it
00:23:28.60\00:23:31.00
for losing weight,
no I don't think it's
00:23:31.03\00:23:32.84
appropriate. Well,
that may not quite true Don.
00:23:32.87\00:23:37.81
Often as I am talking
to our guest about this
00:23:39.35\00:23:42.19
someone will say how
often should we fast,
00:23:42.52\00:23:47.50
okay, because it sound
so good there is so many
00:23:48.37\00:23:51.20
benefits, they ready to
embrace this well why don't we
00:23:51.23\00:23:54.20
fast can I do once a
week could I fast two days
00:23:54.23\00:23:58.09
week. Actually, I think,
the Bible talks about this
00:23:58.12\00:24:01.24
doesn't? Yes it does.
Alright, so there is Bible
00:24:01.27\00:24:03.90
reason yes they do. We
did we had a fellow who
00:24:03.93\00:24:06.77
decided he is going to
fast for 40 days then ever,
00:24:06.80\00:24:09.05
but that's another story.
Is he still with us? No. Okay.
00:24:09.08\00:24:13.37
No, he went home and I
don't what happen to him.
00:24:13.87\00:24:15.49
But, my answer to him is
I think it will be a good
00:24:16.19\00:24:19.10
idea if we fast it
every day and you have brought
00:24:19.13\00:24:22.77
up several times already
that concept of breakfast,
00:24:22.80\00:24:26.52
yeah! Right. That first
meal of the day, it makes
00:24:26.55\00:24:29.12
a lot of sense
physiologically for us to
00:24:29.15\00:24:31.50
reach the fasting state
on a daily basis, if we eat a
00:24:31.53\00:24:36.42
small meal or no meal
at all in the evening than
00:24:36.45\00:24:39.86
during the night our
body changes over to the
00:24:39.89\00:24:43.33
fasting state it runs
out of the energy intestines.
00:24:43.36\00:24:46.48
It starts using energy
from storage in the first
00:24:46.63\00:24:50.48
24 hours it is not so
much muscle it's much more
00:24:50.51\00:24:53.04
from the fat department.
Okay. Isn't it interesting
00:24:53.07\00:24:56.07
concept, it is. Almost
exciting when you start
00:24:56.10\00:24:58.61
thinking about
losing weight while you
00:24:58.64\00:25:01.02
sleeping. Yes it's painless.
It's painless. Unless you
00:25:01.05\00:25:05.00
wakeup, not that
bad, So, fasting is good
00:25:05.03\00:25:10.07
everyday but through
maybe just cutting out
00:25:10.10\00:25:13.84
their evening meal
so someone is overweight
00:25:13.87\00:25:15.98
that's watching that's
a good way to go about it
00:25:16.01\00:25:17.77
cut off the evening
meal. We have had people tell
00:25:17.80\00:25:19.87
us that was the one
thing they learn from our
00:25:19.90\00:25:22.04
program and fellow a call
here a couple of months ago,
00:25:22.07\00:25:25.03
who said, you know
that's only thing I have done
00:25:25.06\00:25:26.75
I lost 60 pounds,
how does someone stop
00:25:26.78\00:25:30.75
fasting when say they
went on a extended fast?
00:25:30.78\00:25:33.54
How do you start
people from fasting?
00:25:33.95\00:25:35.47
That was something that
I thought we want to talk
00:25:36.11\00:25:38.70
about people who fast for
a long time are in danger,
00:25:38.73\00:25:41.80
their body get to use to
having no food and if you
00:25:42.52\00:25:44.99
put in too much all
at once it can be pretty
00:25:45.02\00:25:47.66
dangerous. The food
can actually plug up
00:25:47.69\00:25:50.71
the blood vessels and
can make people very sick,
00:25:50.74\00:25:53.86
for prisoners of war
who were allowed after
00:25:53.89\00:25:57.04
starving to eat lots of
food I actually made very
00:25:57.48\00:26:02.38
sick. So, what we
recommend is that people
00:26:02.41\00:26:05.18
move to just steamed
vegetables. They are easy
00:26:06.07\00:26:08.53
to digest, easy to
handle and do a couple meals of
00:26:08.56\00:26:12.76
just plain steam vegetables.
You transition them back,
00:26:12.79\00:26:16.14
and transition
back your regular food.
00:26:16.17\00:26:17.79
Well, you're a Christian
clinician and you know,
00:26:17.82\00:26:20.29
I know your I believe
you are man of faith you
00:26:20.32\00:26:23.11
dedicated your life to
service sacrificial service
00:26:23.14\00:26:25.95
are there are any spiritual
concepts that you like to
00:26:25.98\00:26:28.33
bring out when your
talking about fasting?
00:26:28.36\00:26:30.19
Getting back to the
beginning where people
00:26:31.33\00:26:32.74
think that fasting is
spiritual thing yes we can
00:26:32.77\00:26:36.21
do that, in many ways
diabetes is a disease of
00:26:36.24\00:26:42.68
threaten, I use that
word carefully but we are
00:26:42.71\00:26:46.36
eating more than we
eat, the disease is actually
00:26:46.39\00:26:49.62
cause by eating
more than we need and not
00:26:50.14\00:26:53.94
exercising enough,
we could take that for a
00:26:53.97\00:26:57.29
model to sin for example,
sin is selfishness is taking
00:26:57.32\00:27:03.10
for yourself not to
give. Your are taking spiritual
00:27:03.13\00:27:07.04
calories in than
your putting out and you
00:27:07.07\00:27:11.12
develop spiritual
diabetes it might make sense to
00:27:11.15\00:27:15.55
stop now that treats
your spiritual diabetes,
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to stop going to
church just feed to yourself
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entertainment and
begin to do some service head
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back on those calories
fast and start serving and
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watch the whole
process reverse itself
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and self-efficiency.
Thank you Dr. Guthrie for
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being with us today and
thank you what you do at
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Lifestyle Center of
America and thank you also from
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watching, for watching
us here today on 3ABN and
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we hope that
today's program on fasting
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can be a benefit to
you. Some of the people in
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your family and the
result that your health last not
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for just now before Life Time.
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