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Hello, and welcome
to Health for Lifetime.
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I'm your host, Don Mackintosh.
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Today, we're going to
be talking about a topic
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that's an important,
but sometimes people shy
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away from talking about
it. It's prostate cancer.
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And to talk with us
about this important
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subject is Dr. Williams.
He is the Health Ministry
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Director for the
North American Division of
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Seventh-Day Adventist,
that sounds really big
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and it is a big job.
We are glad that you with
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us today. Good to be here.
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Now, you being to
Health Ministries Director,
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I mean, Adventist
are known for keeping
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the Sabbath many
times, people know about that
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from the
Seventh-Day part. And, then also
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they know about health
and you're a in charge of
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kind of training
people and educating people
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across the North
American Division, what you said
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as Bermuda,
Canada, and United State.
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That's right, that's right.
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And, you do some
health summits, I've been able
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to work with you
in one of those in
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Orlando, I think at
the beginning part of year.
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In the last week in January and
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first week in February
. And, then out, in the
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West Coast in
Portland, when is that?
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That's in October.
And, then you're not
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doing one into the
North, you said in Montreal.
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The first one will
be in possibly July,
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we're just now
having Conference Calls on
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that, when July of
2006. And, you know, if
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you ever have questions
about what's going on in
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Health Ministries
Department, they can
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just go to the website
and follow the marks to
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the Health
Ministries Department or plus
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line. Plus line or
NAD Health Ministries.
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Okay, good and you
know, just a lot of
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opportunities, I
see, you know, over almost
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of thousands people
last year trained in
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helping people
with many help things.
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Exactly. Now, today's
topic prostate cancer,
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something that many times people
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don't want to
talk about or haven't,
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but more tensions
coming and understand you
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kind have a
personal testimony. Right.
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I hadn't been known a
lot about prostrate cancer,
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up until 1997, and
in 1997, I went to my
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doctor for my
annual check up, Umm!
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which I usually
do right around my
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birthday. My
Birthday is August 21st and,
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I remember that.
So, I've to send you
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some. Send me a
gift, okay, thank you.
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Send me something I would say.
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I went to my
doctor, and you know, they
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do, what we call
it, DRE, the Digital
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Rectal Exam. Not and the most
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feared exam of
any exam known to me.
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It's a feared exam.
Right. Well, I passed
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that splendidly
that, when I got finished
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my doctor said,
you, he said, you're in
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good health, he says,
nothing wrong with you
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that I can see.
And, then about, about
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two weeks later, I
got a call from him and
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he said, I want you
to come in my office,
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he said, we want to
do another blood test,
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they do a blood
test blood you know, they
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we call it the
PSA. PSA, the Prostate
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Specific Antigen
Test. PSA, they take the
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blood and then look
at it, he says your PSA
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was high and to be
truthful at that time,
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I didn't know,
what high was? Okay.
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And, I said, what
is high? He said, well
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0-4 is normal,
and anything above 4
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is abnormal. I
really didn't know
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that, you know,
there is a lot of ignorance
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about this topic,
even among men, and
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some men called
prostrate, prostrate,
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I used to hear
some of my friend say,
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well prostrate,
and you know, only
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Angels fall
prostrate before God.
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But, right, they called it.
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And at that time
I didn't know a lot
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about it. So, he said,
your, your, your ER refill
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feels normal, but
your PSA is elevate,
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and I think, it
was something like 7.
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And, he said, we
want to take it again,
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and took it
again, and then he called
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me back and said,
if it go high, I want
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you to go and get a
biopsy. And, so they
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did the biopsy and
sure enough, he says we
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see cancerous
cells there and do we,
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and so, I just can't believe it.
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I said, doctor
you've got me mixed up.
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I'm the Director of
Health Ministries for
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the Seventh-Day Adventist Church
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you know, I just ran a Marathon.
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You know, I'm a
vegetarian, I just,
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I couldn't believe
it, to be save in my life.
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Umm! That I had prostate
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cancer. Umm! I went home, I took
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a shower, and I
must been in the shower
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until the water and
cold. I couldn't believe
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it, that I, as a man
in fact I was ashamed.
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Why would God allow me
to have prostate cancer?
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I just, I really, I didn't tell
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anybody and my wife
said, well you better
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get a treat, you
better do something.
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So, finally I, I
started calling around
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and find an about
Proton Beam and, in
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at Loma Linda and
but I didn't to tell
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anybody. I was ashamed
that I had prostate cancer.
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And you don't want
to do that, you want to
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take care of it.
We want to take care
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of it, but I
finally went over and told
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would Rose
Orisons, my Vice-President
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that, that I had
problem and that I needed to
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go out tour to
California, but as I say,
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it's, it's, it's
diagnosis that most
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men don't want to
hear. Umm! It's a diagnosis
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that black men
will hear a twices often
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as white men
have twice to read of,
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of prostate cancer
than white men and we don't
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talk about it a
lot, there is general
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ignorance, a lot
of secrecy, a lot of
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you know, that
deals with sex in the
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Adventist Church
or we're kind a quite
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about it. We don't say, a lot
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about AIDS and so
forth, but it's serious.
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You said, that there
was a survey of hundred
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man and 42%
thought that women had a
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prostate cancer.
That's right, they had
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a prostate, they
didn't, they didn't know,
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where it was,
where is the prostate?
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They didn't know, where it was?
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They thought that
women had, yes a prostate.
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And, also the
statistics you showed me that in
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every three minutes
someone is diagnosed
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in United States
with prostate cancer.
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Cancer, in every
twelve minutes, what
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did you say?
Somebody dies from it.
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So, it's not
something you must wrong with.
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No, and over
232,000 cases were diagnosed
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in 2005, and would be
diagnosed and probably
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more than 30,000 deaths.
Now, it's actually coming
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down little bit. Umm! It to was
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highest in 40,000
in the 90s, but it's
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coming down somewhat.
People are becoming more
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aware. That's
right. Now, you, you have a
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global perspective
because for many years
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you were also
missioner, I think in Africa,
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then, that's
right, worked as a General
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Conference before
your responsibilities. Now,
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is it a global
problem? It's a global problem,
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but it's more
endemic to North America.
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And to industrialized
places. Places like,
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Australia, and
Canada, and United States,
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Africans in Africa
have less prostate cancer
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than
African-Americans. Why is that?
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Well, it probably
because of diet and exercise
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habit and so for,
we don't know, exactly,
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but it's probably
diet and lifestyle has a
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lot to do with it.
Japan, and Chinese and
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Japanese, who live
in Japan and China,
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have less prostate
cancer, but when they,
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when they migrate
over here to America. Umm!
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And, then they have
the same rates that the,
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that the Americans
have. So, it's. Kind of a
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lifestyle thing.
It's a lifestyle thing.
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That's right. Now, and one other
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things you talked
about was there was a
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connecting between
prostate cancer and
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Ultraviolet
lights. That's right.
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The more and more
evidences showing that,
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that Vitamin-D
and Ultraviolet light
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stimulates
Vitamin-D in the Northern
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Countries. Umm! And
the like Scandinavia
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you found a lot
of prostate cancer.
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In the United States,
you go up the Minnesota
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and. Michigan.
Michigan and you go
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down to Florida,
you'll find less and you,
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there are more old
people living in Florida
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you know, that's
why the Snowbirds go
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until for, and you
would expected to be more
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down there, but there
is less prostate cancer
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and States of
Florida and along this.
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And this, this is
relationship between
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that and the amount
of sun, I guess like.
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That's right, and
man should go out in the
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sun, at least 10 to
15 minutes. Black people
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probably an hour,
when we saying, white
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going out in the sun
10 to 15 minutes, that's
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for White people.
Umm! But for Black
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people, who
have, who have pigment,
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they have a pigment
in their skin that blocks
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the ultraviolet
ray, they need to get a,
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about an hour, and hour
in 10, hour in 15 minutes
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a day of ultraviolet
light and you can see
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why it's higher
because we don't do it.
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We've the same
habits, we go down into our
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cars and our
garages and drive out to our
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offices and go into
our office you know, very
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few of our people
get an hour of sunlight
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here in the United
States. So, what's on
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television maybe
not, maybe 3ABN is okay,
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but you get to,
get outside, right?
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That's right,
you've to get outside.
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And, we've lights
here are these help us?
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Well, it's these
lights don't give you
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ultraviolet
light. As much as, okay.
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So, when you'll
get outside as well.
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Ultraviolet light,
which is highest at noon,
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you know, noon and 12
'O' Clock, 1 'O' Clock
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right around the earth,
in the middle of the day
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that's when you want
to get your ultraviolet
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light. So, what are
some other factors that would
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influence us in terms
of getting prostate cancer?
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Alcohol? Yes,
alcohol has been shown to,
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to raise prostate
cancer high fat diet, of course
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the biggest risk factor
is age. If you get older
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as you get older,
you're going to have a greater
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risk of prostate
cancer. What about family
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history? Family
history, of course
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and when I've, when
I've, when I've talking to my
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family, I find out
that my father had prostate
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cancer. I never know
it. It was, I guess before
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I was born, my elders
brother has had prostate
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cancer and I've two
other brothers, who are younger
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than I and I keep
telling them make sure you get
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sure regular examination.
So, you want to get the
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both of the examination,
Do you want to get the
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the DRE, the desktop
finger and you want to
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get the PSA
because, when I got for these
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my annual exam, the
doctor told me that my
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prostate felt
alright, it was only the PSA,
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blood test that was
able to identify, then
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the PSA is actually
the more accurate way
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that the of actually
diagnosing a prostate
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cancer. Doesn't matter
what's I genetically and
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mother side there
father side that passes and I.
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That's right, if
you've somebody in your family
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that has had,
had prostate cancer,
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if you've had a
grandfather or father
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or brother, you're
pretty much certain that you're
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going to have
prostate cancer. Oh! Yeah.
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By the time you get
to age 80, you say almost
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every man has had,
has prostate cancer. Umm!
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In some stage, and
by that time you get the
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90, 90% of all man
90 years of age have
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prostate cancer.
Some man go to their
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grace with other
diseases, but if you do
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all types, you'll
find out that the prostate
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has cancer.
Interesting thing, let's
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talking to another
guess that he told me
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that Seventh-Day
Adventist actually have
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a very rate of
prostate cancer. And, there are
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several reasons, some
people say, because we
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live longer. Okay.
And, other say, possibly
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because many of our
Adventist are lack to
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over. Eating lot of daily
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product. Daily
product, so there is a link
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between milk and
cheese and even chocolate is
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a product, can you
get to get chocolate,
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milk, there we
age, age not so much as
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cheese and milk.
Well, I could see lot
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of people are they,
this kind a going Oh! No.
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So, some of the risk
factors you say that,
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if you've no
relatives with prostate cancer,
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you still have a
13% risk. That's right,
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that's right.
But your grandfather
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had it, you up to
20%. Well, my grandfather
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had it and so my
great grandfather, so what
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would I be.
Well, your grandfather
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had it? And my
great grandfather.
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You better go and
get your exam every year.
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Alright, Oh! Maybe
actually run right now.
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Well, we say because
it's a disease of age. Umm!
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So, their first,
they recommended to go
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for your first time at 50. Umm!
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For African-American,
we say that you still
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go at 40. Umm! I went at up 40.
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You went at 40? Have the DRE and
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I don't think you
know, the PSA because it's
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but. But you need
to get both of them
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because as I say, my
doctor, when he felt my,
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my prostate with, with
a finger and said it, felt
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good. Umm! But it was the PSA
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as we need to get
them both and I had one man
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whose PSA was good,
but when the doctor did the
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DRE that's when he
said, it doesn't feel
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right? And he said,
him to go and get more
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treatment, so you got
a get them both, every
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year. So, even your
uncle having it's 20%
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risk that cousin 16%
risk, one brother have
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26%, two brothers
as you say, 65% risk.
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Because your brother has of it.
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That's right. And, so
my younger brother really
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need to be on the
alert. Grandfather, father and
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brother. 100%. 100%
risk. 100%, you're going, you
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you got the genes,
you got it in your blood
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you know. We're talking with
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Dr. William from
the General Conference
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or actually from the
North American Division
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of Seventh-Day
Adventist, we're talking about
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prostate cancer and
we're going to talk about
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what we can do to
avoid it, maybe them
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treated, I don't know
exactly, all the things
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we'll talking about,
but I know, you don't
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want to miss it. Join
us, when we come back.
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Welcome back,
we've been talking with
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Dr. DeWitt
Williams, he is the Health
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Ministries, Director
for the North American
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Division of
Seventh-Day Adventist and
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interestingly you know,
if Seventh-Day Adventist
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man have a problem
with prostate cancer.
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We've talked about
that today, sometimes
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as they studied in
the Adventist Health Study
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you told me it's
really those that have made
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the decision to, to
eat the daily products,
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that are little bit
higher than the others,
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but every man in the
United States and even
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around the world
needs to be concerned about
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prostate cancer.
So, especially to live
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in the Northern regions.
That's right, exactly and
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if they're Black. I
need to be concerned
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about it. Now, the
prostate is just below
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the blighter.
And, running from the
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blighter is a tube
call the urethra. Umm!
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And the prostate
surrounds that, it's
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sort of like, if
you would take an arnge
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and put a straw
in the middle of the
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arnge. Okay.
And, so as the, as you
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get older, the
arnge gets bigger. Umm!
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And, gets bigger and
bigger and bigger and
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not only does a get
bigger, but it pressures
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on that straws, so
that's actually, what
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happens is
happening in the prostate.
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The prostate pumps
fluid is the fluid that
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it brings in for
the sperm and the, the
00:16:41.89\00:16:46.28
between that
seminal vesicles that bring
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the fluid in that
the carriage the sperms
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so, that's get
purpose of the prostate,
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something people say,
what is it, why, why did,
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why did God give us
the prostate anyway.
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Well, it does and
little bit of that fluid that's
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the goes into the
carriage of the sperm.
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So. So, lifestyle
though seems to be related
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to their developing
of the cancer and it's,
00:17:07.14\00:17:08.84
like you said before
it seems like, when people
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moved to America,
many times they've
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more and probably
that's because of the high fat.
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High fat by. All those different
00:17:16.90\00:17:18.69
things. That's
right. So, before you moved
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to America think
about that, right?
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Well, high fiber diet
is good for exercise. Umm!
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Sunlight,
Vitamin-D, Solanum, or lycopene
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to made a
products soy those were all
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things that have been
shown to have a positive
00:17:37.26\00:17:41.41
affect on prostate.
So. And, so we don't
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need a lot of soy
and. Tea you say an zinc,
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well that's
nuch, probably. A nuch
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that's right.
So, these are, these
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are good things
and to be eating.
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Now, once you have the diagnose.
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Well, let's talk about
how to avoid it, I mean
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first and then
we will come. Okay.
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Won't you have it.
You said, everybody
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passed age 50,
instead of should having a
00:18:05.59\00:18:09.63
rectal examine and if
you're African-American
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starting at 40.
40, starting at 40,
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that's right. Can you think?
00:18:13.24\00:18:14.23
And not, not just the
one, I want to emphasize
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that again, the PSA
and the DRE. So, the blood
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test and the exam. That's right.
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Start to get 40 for
African-Americans and
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anybody with that
family history that would be
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talk about, if you
had the grandfather and
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the grandfather and
the uncle, you also should
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start at age 40.
So, you said, that
00:18:30.63\00:18:32.74
want to gets
abnormal and gets a large.
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So, a normal
would be a smaller size.
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That's right, that's
right. And, you said,
00:18:36.51\00:18:38.52
what are the things
as a doctor look for
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when he is doing that
exam, I'm not that you
00:18:40.71\00:18:42.09
want to think.
Think to most of feel
00:18:42.12\00:18:43.14
the, the edges of
it, he want to feel that
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consistency of it's
irregular, he wants to
00:18:47.47\00:18:49.46
feel of it soft to
hard, if it's soft, it's good
00:18:49.49\00:18:52.15
if it's hard, he
wants to feel all of those
00:18:52.18\00:18:54.34
things and he can feel
that to, with that finger
00:18:54.37\00:18:57.25
exam that he does.
And then they, they've
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a, what they called a
Gleason grading system.
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That's right.
Once. To the biopsy.
00:19:04.05\00:19:06.52
Once they found out
that, they suspect that
00:19:06.55\00:19:09.21
you may have it.
Then you're gone, you
00:19:09.24\00:19:12.62
sent to get a CAT
scan, and then you're sent to
00:19:12.65\00:19:15.30
get biopsy and the
biopsy they tig, I remember the
00:19:15.33\00:19:19.37
doctor saying, this
is going to, this won't
00:19:19.40\00:19:22.27
hurt much you know,
that will be a pinch
00:19:22.30\00:19:23.87
and pop and there is
a little device that has
00:19:23.90\00:19:30.00
a needle in it.
Yeah. Attach a little
00:19:30.03\00:19:31.67
piece of. Tissue.
Tissue from usually
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about 6 or 7 places
you know, difference
00:19:34.73\00:19:36.60
spots maybe on this
and in the middle and that
00:19:36.63\00:19:39.35
the front and, and
they take them and they
00:19:39.38\00:19:41.49
look, they examine.
The pathologist will
00:19:41.52\00:19:43.59
examine the tissue
and see what it look like
00:19:43.62\00:19:47.24
and they give back
to Gleason scores that
00:19:47.27\00:19:49.51
usually give a two
scores of primary and the
00:19:49.54\00:19:51.52
secondary score and
they add them together and
00:19:51.55\00:19:54.04
if the higher it is,
the worse it is and the
00:19:54.07\00:19:56.74
same way with the
PSA. So, another words, you
00:19:56.77\00:20:01.56
got a really watch
that, if the starts going up
00:20:01.59\00:20:03.37
will probably,
can you think great.
00:20:03.40\00:20:05.69
That's right.
Now, the treatment,
00:20:05.72\00:20:07.06
the treatment itself,
you had to go through this
00:20:07.09\00:20:09.41
what are the
treatment things they come up,
00:20:09.44\00:20:11.53
with what are they do,
if you're diagnosed with
00:20:11.56\00:20:13.81
prostate cancer.
Well, you've several
00:20:13.84\00:20:16.86
options, is a surgery
and then you've radiation.
00:20:16.89\00:20:21.01
And, I chose to go to
Loma Linda, were they've
00:20:21.04\00:20:24.10
the proton beam. Umm! And, the
00:20:24.13\00:20:26.33
proton beam is a
special type of radiation that
00:20:26.36\00:20:30.22
focuses on that
particular area and many,
00:20:30.25\00:20:36.73
most times radiation
can damage tissue in front
00:20:36.76\00:20:40.11
of tissue behind or
tissue around, but the
00:20:40.14\00:20:42.37
proton beam hits
precisely that area.
00:20:42.40\00:20:45.85
And. That's you
didn't move, when you were
00:20:45.88\00:20:48.22
there, you just still.
But this is interesting
00:20:48.25\00:20:50.93
that you said that the
first time I had to fly
00:20:50.96\00:20:53.05
out there, they make a
part for you, it's, it's
00:20:53.08\00:20:57.22
style form part, you
lie down they poof star
00:20:57.25\00:21:00.19
from all around
you, and. You can't move?
00:21:00.22\00:21:02.86
No, can't move, but
this is your part and I got
00:21:02.89\00:21:06.14
40 treatments and each
time I had the treatment
00:21:06.17\00:21:08.56
for only 90 seconds.
So, each time I had got
00:21:08.59\00:21:11.79
in, got in a part
because they don't want you to
00:21:11.82\00:21:14.72
any wants forever,
you get in that part.
00:21:14.75\00:21:16.56
Umm! And they were
directed at the same
00:21:16.59\00:21:19.94
spot and it's a real
precise bit of a work.
00:21:19.97\00:21:26.49
Do you still have your
part. No, I like to kept
00:21:26.52\00:21:28.91
the part, but I do
have the little, there is a
00:21:28.94\00:21:33.38
little blue cast
that they put and there
00:21:33.41\00:21:34.99
that confirms to, to
my measurements and block
00:21:35.02\00:21:37.34
that hole. Yeah.
And lastly, so then
00:21:37.37\00:21:40.23
are there any
side effects to these
00:21:40.26\00:21:42.85
treatments. Yes, it's
according to, now with
00:21:42.88\00:21:45.63
surgery and my
daughter is a physician, they've
00:21:45.66\00:21:49.62
said, all the urologist
want you to have surgery
00:21:49.65\00:21:51.71
because the surgery
can actually cut the cancer
00:21:51.74\00:21:56.20
out and they
have Dr. Patrick Walsh
00:21:56.23\00:22:01.67
and John Hopkins's
surgeon that has come
00:22:01.70\00:22:05.79
up with the
technique where they spare the,
00:22:05.82\00:22:08.38
the bundle of nerves
that are useful for the
00:22:08.41\00:22:11.96
erection in surfaced,
but sometimes you know, and
00:22:11.99\00:22:15.02
get kind of bloody
and surgeons hands might
00:22:15.05\00:22:17.23
stipple, a lot of
man have, we, we called
00:22:17.26\00:22:19.65
at the two eyes impotence and
00:22:19.68\00:22:21.70
incontinence. As a
result. As a result of
00:22:21.73\00:22:24.14
it, they may have to
wear a diaper for the
00:22:24.17\00:22:26.14
rest of their
life's then we have another
00:22:26.17\00:22:28.25
erection of it.
And, for some man it
00:22:28.28\00:22:31.14
could be as why
it's, a very touchy subject
00:22:31.17\00:22:34.51
for some to talk
about. Then of course with
00:22:34.54\00:22:38.08
radiation,
radiation, they are showing down
00:22:38.11\00:22:43.50
that the proton beam
is five year and 10 year
00:22:43.53\00:22:46.49
survival rature
pretty, pretty good just, just
00:22:46.52\00:22:49.21
as good as with
surgery. Umm! But you'll have
00:22:49.24\00:22:52.13
possibly, more
difficulties with rectal
00:22:52.16\00:22:55.76
bleed. I, I had some
rectal bleeding, when I
00:22:55.79\00:23:01.11
first came home. I
was here for 8 weeks,
00:23:01.14\00:23:05.12
and the first five
weeks I felt just real good,
00:23:05.15\00:23:09.18
I even perhaps meetings,
I had some food floating
00:23:09.21\00:23:12.03
we had meetings, and
I you know, lot of phone
00:23:12.06\00:23:14.52
callings, but the
sixth week I started to feel
00:23:14.55\00:23:16.83
a little weaker.
And the seventh week,
00:23:16.86\00:23:19.30
and by the eight week
I didn't have much energy
00:23:19.33\00:23:22.72
what so ever.
And, I can remember
00:23:22.75\00:23:24.56
when I left, I
through home from Loma Linda,
00:23:24.59\00:23:27.23
when by to see my
daughter, who is in
00:23:27.26\00:23:29.12
Houston Texas, I
came home at Friday.
00:23:29.15\00:23:31.95
But I want to work on Monday.
00:23:32.12\00:23:33.09
And, but maybe
about week and half, later
00:23:33.10\00:23:38.64
on kind a felt
depressed. Umm! And, so I went
00:23:38.67\00:23:41.27
home and stay home in
for about two or three
00:23:41.30\00:23:44.10
weeks and spirit
to came back up again
00:23:44.13\00:23:46.08
so, you can have
fatigue, and tiredness.
00:23:46.11\00:23:48.76
This is what the
radiation. With the
00:23:48.79\00:23:51.22
radiation, there is a
procedure called Siege
00:23:51.25\00:23:53.72
I know, couple of
people, who have had seed
00:23:53.75\00:23:56.52
and siege is a radiation.
These are little pieces
00:23:56.55\00:24:00.44
of radiation that are
implanted into the area
00:24:00.47\00:24:03.84
the scrotum and the
area around and they
00:24:03.87\00:24:06.71
deliver that dose of
radiation then I, they
00:24:06.74\00:24:11.14
said that's fairly,
these are all experimental.
00:24:11.17\00:24:13.66
So, we do surgery is
the only one that we have
00:24:13.69\00:24:16.78
long term history
on, even with the Proton
00:24:16.81\00:24:23.04
Beam or many
insurance they don't covered
00:24:23.07\00:24:26.30
and it's , it's
been shown to be very
00:24:26.33\00:24:29.45
effective, but you
have to pause 25,000,
00:24:29.48\00:24:32.16
30,000, 40,000
some that time and
00:24:32.19\00:24:35.62
if your insurance as
in covered that's a lot of
00:24:35.65\00:24:37.57
money to come out
of your own pocket.
00:24:37.60\00:24:39.31
So, I go around now,
as I said, when I first
00:24:39.34\00:24:42.29
find out or little
bit embarrassed, but when
00:24:42.32\00:24:43.29
I first found out
or other little bit
00:24:43.30\00:24:44.27
embarrassed, but when I
found out, how would you
00:24:44.28\00:24:46.03
know, doctors
have prostates and they
00:24:46.06\00:24:49.80
get effected
preachers, young people, older
00:24:49.83\00:24:53.17
people, everybody don't
your probably eventually
00:24:53.20\00:24:56.26
have this problem, so
now I give talked, can
00:24:56.29\00:24:58.24
meetings, I've gone
on radio, I'm a part of
00:24:58.27\00:25:00.79
group called,
department of defense, they've a
00:25:00.82\00:25:06.04
prostate group,
they portion millions of
00:25:06.07\00:25:09.30
dollars and I said on
this pan other they're
00:25:09.33\00:25:12.38
urologist and all
kinds of people around the
00:25:12.41\00:25:15.12
table, I'm the consumer,
they called me a consumer
00:25:15.15\00:25:16.84
I'm somebody, who
has. Had it. Had it.
00:25:16.87\00:25:18.83
And, the two
consumers in that group and we
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dole out money to
people who are presenting
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proposals for new
treatments. And, I see.
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Historically black
colored as a universities and
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so forth and one of,
one of the suggest as
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that key man was a
set up a, a learning
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center in a barber
shop, where Black man come
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you know, but I
thought it was a real, we, we,
00:25:40.53\00:25:42.92
we. Gave some money
to that. Gave money to
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that. And, I was
talking once I met Dr. Ben
00:25:44.90\00:25:47.42
Carson, who is a
well known surgeon and
00:25:47.45\00:25:49.04
he also has gone
through this. He had surgery.
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Umm! He had surgery.
By a Dr. Patrick Walsh,
00:25:51.35\00:25:54.68
he is the
renowned surgeon and John
00:25:54.71\00:25:56.84
As far as you
know, well for him.
00:25:56.87\00:25:58.53
As far as I know,
yeah. So, I guess a teaching
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point is, I mean Ben
Carson was right near
00:26:02.45\00:26:05.07
50 I think, when he had that.
00:26:05.10\00:26:07.13
But he very young. Pretty young.
00:26:07.16\00:26:09.12
A very young, I was 58. Umm!
00:26:09.15\00:26:11.32
57 when diagnosed
and 58 when I had my
00:26:11.35\00:26:13.99
treatment. So. So, the teaching
00:26:14.02\00:26:16.51
point is look it's not
the end all, but it can't
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be, if you
don't get toward soon.
00:26:19.30\00:26:20.77
If you don't catch
it quickly enough and
00:26:20.80\00:26:24.31
it's, but testisizes
to the bones or it's, it's
00:26:24.34\00:26:28.21
a terrible disease, it's
painful, it's devastating
00:26:28.24\00:26:32.07
and it's life threatening
it will care you quickly.
00:26:32.10\00:26:36.54
Umm! You've had a
friend, and I've had
00:26:36.57\00:26:38.54
some friends,
who passed away, so
00:26:38.57\00:26:40.38
that's why I emphasizing
the daily, not the daily,
00:26:40.41\00:26:43.99
but the yearly DRE
and the yearly PSA.
00:26:44.02\00:26:48.23
Umm! You got do it.
So, that in case any
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changes are
happen, you're aware of it.
00:26:51.25\00:26:53.35
Well, look I mean
Director of Health
00:26:53.38\00:26:56.29
Ministries in North
American Division of
00:26:56.32\00:26:58.46
Seventh-Day
Adventist, you thought this was
00:26:58.49\00:27:00.37
gonna be an embarrassment
and what not, but really
00:27:00.40\00:27:02.83
God maybe loves you
to have this, so you
00:27:02.86\00:27:06.80
could a save a lot
of other life's by being
00:27:06.83\00:27:08.91
open and I wanted to say
thank you for what you're
00:27:08.94\00:27:11.87
do at the
department there and also thank
00:27:11.90\00:27:14.52
you, for being
honorable with us and being,
00:27:14.55\00:27:16.35
I mean you know,
talking about to the world.
00:27:16.38\00:27:18.71
We really
appreciate you being here.
00:27:18.74\00:27:20.71
It's my privilege
to be here and I hope,
00:27:20.74\00:27:22.80
I help somebody. I
believe that you did.
00:27:22.83\00:27:25.22
And, you know, if
you're watching today and he
00:27:25.25\00:27:27.71
have got some action
item. Get those exams,
00:27:27.74\00:27:30.70
so encouraged those in
your family, if they're
00:27:30.73\00:27:33.54
not watching maybe
get a copy of this and,
00:27:33.57\00:27:35.19
have then, their
exams and also blood test,
00:27:35.22\00:27:38.42
don't, don't just say
this is not gonna happen,
00:27:38.45\00:27:41.40
if you know, the
family history, of course that
00:27:41.43\00:27:43.61
should increase your
awareness and resolved
00:27:43.64\00:27:47.24
to do something
about this problem and as a
00:27:47.27\00:27:49.30
result, we hope, you
don't have to experience
00:27:49.33\00:27:51.04
the side effects or the
end of result of prostate
00:27:51.07\00:27:54.69
cancer. Thanks for watching
today and God bless you.
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