Hello and welcome to
Health for a Lifetime.
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I'm your host Don Mackintosh.
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We're glad you've joined us
today out of your busy schedule.
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There's a big problem in America
called hypothyroidism and to
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talk with us about this
today is Dr. David DeRose.
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Dr. DeRose is from Oklahoma.
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He has a ministry that couples
both ministry's spiritual
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aspects and actual treatment
of physical conditions called
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compasshealth. net
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Dr. DeRose is both board
certified in internal medicine
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and preventive medicine.
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He spent his life looking
at natural and also medical
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approaches to
many of the diseases.
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But also you're interested
in the spiritual aspects too.
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No question, I mean, the Lord
got my attention early in my
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life as a college student.
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When He turned my life around
He really opened my mind up
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to caring for my own health.
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I was not a very healthy person.
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I didn't have a
good level of health.
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It wasn't like I was in the
hospital a lot but I had plenty
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of problems even as a
relatively young person.
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The Lord ministered to my life
and He's given me the privilege
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of ministering to many
people through medical practice.
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This venture of
compasshealth. net
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that puts your
whole family together.
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You're all involved in ministry.
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I think your wife is a
physician, is that correct?
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My wife is a physician.
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She's actually the
business manager of the company.
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So she's more behind the scenes.
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CompassHealth takes on a
number of evangelistic projects,
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at least one major
overseas project each year.
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That's part of what we do.
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We do that as a family.
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That's what we've done
the last couple of years.
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Wonderful!
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Today we're going to
talk about hypothyroidism.
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Some of the things we talked
about you'll probably have up
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on your website.
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If people go to
compasshealth. net
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they'll be able to read
more details about what we're
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covering.
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What is hypothyroidism
and how big a problem is it?
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Don, it's a huge problem.
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Hypothyroidism effects some
2% of women across the board
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in our country.
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Only about a 10th as many men
but once we get to be over 60
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those figures jump dramatically
about 6% of women and 2% of men.
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So we're talking
about a large problem.
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The other part of your question
what is it, hypothyroidism
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is really all
that the term means.
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Hypo means low, thyroid has to
do with production of a hormone
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from this gland at
the base of our necks.
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So it's low production of
an important metabolic hormone
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known as thyroid hormone.
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Thyroid hormone is kind of
like maestro - it coordinates
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a lot of different things.
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That's right.
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If your thyroid hormone function
is low it is going to tend to
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slow down a variety of
functions in your body.
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Your pulse can be slower,
your energy level can be lower,
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you can tend toward depression,
you can be frankly depressed,
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constipation, all these
things can go along with
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low thyroid functions.
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So what's this hoarseness
and thickening of the tongue?
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Is that true?
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Yes, actually
hoarseness can be vocal changes.
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There can actually be
in bad hypothyroidism.
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There can be a build up
in the tissues, a thickening
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of the tongue as well as
changes in the skin of the legs.
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A number of things can occur
in a condition called myxedema.
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Hair loss?
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Hair loss, yes.
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And you look at my
head, Don, and you laugh
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But the hair loss that
you get is a classic pattern.
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You tend to loose the
outer portion of your eyebrows.
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You're exactly right.
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If a woman, remember it's more
common in women about 10 times
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more common in younger women
than younger men, so if a woman
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is noticing lot's of hair coming
out this could be a sign of
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hypothyroidism.
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Usually going along
with lower energy level.
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Weight gain, huge
issue in our country.
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Many people
have weight problems.
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Part of their problem is a
thyroid problem and many times
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it's undiagnosed.
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Is it reversible?
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Well, it's a good question.
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The answer is one of
those classic medical answers
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"It depends. "
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It depends on what?
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It really depends on what the
cause of the hypothyroidism is.
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There are a variety of things
that cause hypothyroidism.
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The single most common cause
of hypothyroidism in children
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over 8 and all the way into
adulthood is something called
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Hoshimoto's Thyroiditis.
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Hoshimoto's Thyroiditis is
an autoimmune destruction of the
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thyroid gland.
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So the body is attacking this
gland, it's being wiped out.
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That is basically an
irreversible scenario.
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It doesn't mean that you have
zero thyroid function the minute
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it's diagnosed, but once the
body is attacking the thyroid
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you're not typically
going to regain that function.
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But there are many
other causes of hypothyroidism
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caused by a virus, for example.
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Or following a viral illness.
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After pregnancy,
classic cause of hypothyroidism,
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postpartum hypothyroidism
is what we call it.
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Many times
that's fully reversible.
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So, you've terrified some of us.
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Just with the name
Hoshimoto's? - laughter -
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No, with hypothyroidism
and seeing the dangers.
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How can I tell if my
thyroid then is normal?
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If you read books in
the health food store,
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they'll tell you
all kinds of things.
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Same with the internet.
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I believe the Lord's way of
dealing with thyroid control
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in our body is the best
way to get an insight into how
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our thyroid is doing.
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Ok, that's good, but how
do I tell if it's normal?
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And then I want
to talk about that.
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Well, I'm going to answer
your question by telling you
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how it works.
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The thyroid is not just an
autonomously functioning organ.
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It has control.
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The Lord has made us so there
are other parts of our body
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to talk to our thyroid.
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One of those parts of the body
is called the pituitary gland
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laying at the base of our brain.
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I'd point to it but it... well
right there in the middle...
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you see the
intersection. - laughter -
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Right at the base of
your brain and then above that
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in the brain itself
is the hypothalamus.
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These regions of the body
are monitoring thyroid function.
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Now, Don, I
know you're a parent.
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Maybe I shouldn't ask you
this on international TV but I'm
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going to stick my neck out.
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Do your children
always come immediately
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when you call for them?
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Well, judging between mine
and yours - yes - laughter -
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No, no, they don't.
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They may not have
heard you the first time.
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That's right!
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So what do you do if your kids
don't come when you first call?
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I call them again.
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Maybe a little bit louder.
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Maybe, some.
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That's what the pituitary
does with your thyroid.
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If the thyroid is not making
enough hormone, it's failing
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the pituitary calls out to
the thyroid to work harder.
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Have you ever heard
your pituitary talking
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to your thyroid?
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If I did we'd have
to do another program!
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That's right! - laughter -
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You're right it
does not speak audibly.
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The Lord has the pituitary
send a chemical message.
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That chemical
message is called TSH.
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If the TSH level is normal that
means the pituitary is telling
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the thyroid you're
doing a good job, keep going,
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keep up the good work.
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But if it's not listening, not
obeying, it's not producing the
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thyroid it needs to, the
pituitary starts speaking louder
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THYROID WORK HARDER!
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and the TSH
level keeps going up.
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Thyroid
Stimulating Hormones - TSH
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So what we want to do if we want
to see if the thyroid is failing
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we do a blood test.
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We see what the body
says is going on with itself.
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If that TSH level is elevated
that's going to indicate
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thyroid failure or
thyroid sluggishness.
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So if you have any question or
any of these signs or symptoms
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that you talked about
just a simple blood test can
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tell you where you are?
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It can make a huge difference.
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I got to tell you though,
Don, because of this very
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exquisite control, if
your pituitary is failing
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and isn't making TSH, that
will also cause your thyroid
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to be sluggish.
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The problem is not with
the thyroid now, the problem is
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with the pituitary.
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So you can't just draw TSH
level necessarily and assume
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everything but
that's the best indicator.
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You got to have a doctor
to order the test anyway.
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So work with your doctor
if you've got a question.
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Get the TSH test and
then they can work with you
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on interpreting.
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You have a list probably on
your website compasshealth. net
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that goes through all the
causes: Hoshimoto's, painful
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sub acute Thyroiditis,
painless sporadic Thyroiditis,
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all of these different
things where you can look into.
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That's right.
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There's a variety of different
causes of hypothyroidism
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and we point out there on the
website how reversible they are
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by nature of the cause.
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So you've talked about how
we can diagnose TSH and talked
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about how that can
also be indicative a problem
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with the pituitary.
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But how high does this TSH
need to be before someone gets
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concerned?
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What are the normal's?
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Well, you know that is one
of the challenges that we have.
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I could show you study
after study, I have some of the
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references on the website, but
different people are actually
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looking at different cut offs.
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But let me tell
you what works for me.
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The standard units that
are reported are what we call
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micro units per liter - MU/L.
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Those are the units that
we use here in our country.
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Don, here's what
the challenge is.
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If you look at the laboratory
normal range it's going to
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usually be up to about
5, maybe 4.5, maybe 5.0,
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maybe 5.5.
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But a lot of thyroid
specialists are starting to say,
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"Well, you know what, a
lot of people are hypothyroid
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and by just looking at what the
average is may be misleading us.
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An optimal TSH level
may be more like 2 or below.
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Now you don't want to get
too low because then that would
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indicate you are hyperthyroid.
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Your TSH levels get
very low because your body -
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your pituitary is
afraid to say anything -
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any little word it gives to
the thyroid it starts producing
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more hormones.
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Just kind of dramatizing
it a little bit there.
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But what the point is
lower TSH levels actually maybe
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somewhat better.
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When you get too high a level
then you start getting into
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risk of osteoporosis
and heart rhythm problems.
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So people shouldn't just
willy-nilly be taking thyroid
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hormone just because
their wife has it the husband
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shouldn't take some
to help him loose weight.
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Ok.
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We're talking
about Hypothyroidism.
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But some people can have
too high a thyroid as well,
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isn't that true?
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That's right,
that's Hyperthyroidism.
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Hyper and Hypo -
you're exactly right.
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It's not as big a problem in our
country as far as the numbers
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effected but it's
still a significant problem
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and it is
something to be kept in mind.
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If it's true that the
thyroid can be knocked out
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a lot of people take
like Synthroid and or these
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different things you're
not advocating in this program
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that they go off that.
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There's no way really to
go off it once that happens,
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is that right or wrong?
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Is it reversible in other words?
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Many of the causes are.
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Hoshimoto's is the most
common cause, is not reversible.
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Those people will need to
be on thyroid replacement.
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Are there some exceptions?
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Perhaps early in the course
of the condition - yes, but I'll
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tell you in my experience if
you have an autoimmune type of
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thyroid problem you're going
to need the thyroid hormone
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replacement.
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To me that is not a drug, it's
replacing a natural body hormone
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that the Lord designed for you
to have but you're not making.
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But, come back to the train
of thought we had a moment ago,
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as far as what's
the normal range?
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Any doctor, if you get above 10
micro units per liter, they're
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going to tell you
that you're hypothyroid.
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5 to 10 range they might
say it's a little gray but most
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doctors it seems are leaning
if it's above 5 to 10 range
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even if other indicators of
thyroid in the blood, if they
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measure the free thyroid
in your blood - we can do
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that now - if that's
normal they're going to say
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you have
subclinical hypothyroidism.
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Maybe you don't have a
full-blown disease, maybe the
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blood levels are ok of the
thyroid hormone but the brain
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and the pituitary are saying the
thyroid is not working right.
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Many of these people, the
evidence is suggesting, they're
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benefited by treatment as
far as energy level, cholesterol
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level tends to come down
because when you're hypothyroid
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cholesterol can rise and help
the blood pressure, a number
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of things can be
related to hypothyroidism.
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So if it's equal or above 10
your doctor is going to say...?
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Yes, that's very clear cut.
00:14:07.68\00:14:10.34
Above 5 many doctors will treat
and the evidence suggests that
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that is probably prudent.
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That's the way things
seem to be moving at least from
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my reading of the literature.
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So if it's on the high side
of normal and you're gaining
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weight and fatigued
you're going to benefit?
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Usually we'll find that people
TSH levels 6, 7, they benefit
00:14:25.20\00:14:30.73
by getting their TSH levels
down 4, 3, 2, by taking some
00:14:30.77\00:14:35.69
T4 replacement whether
it's the Synthroid or Levoxyl
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or some other form of
what we call L-thyroxine.
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My wife is expecting our third
child right now and you've been
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through a number yourself.
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Let's say someone has just
had a baby and they got the
00:14:49.96\00:14:53.31
thyroid problems that
come after having a baby.
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What should they do?
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Definitely they want to
have it diagnosed first.
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Don't just jump to a conclusion
if you're feeling fatigued
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that it's from the thyroid
because there's also that
00:15:02.64\00:15:04.63
condition postpartum depression.
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It's very important that
if a woman after pregnancy is
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feeling very low energy level
that she has things evaluated.
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If she is hypothyroid
many times what happens,
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I've seen this before.
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I remember one woman
very vividly some years ago
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came into my office.
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She had
postpartum hypothyroidism.
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She was started on thyroid
and she was never taken off it.
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She saw me
probably 20-25 years later.
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We were able to gradually
taper her off the thyroid.
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And her thyroid was fine then.
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She didn't need to stay
on the thyroid replacement.
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It was a momentary thing.
00:15:38.75\00:15:41.09
It was short-term needing help.
00:15:41.12\00:15:43.07
Now some people with postpartum
Thyroiditis they will have
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irreversible,
long-term thyroid problems.
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We're talking
with Dr. David DeRose.
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He's a physician
from southern Oklahoma.
00:15:51.20\00:15:53.62
He has a ministry
called compasshealth. net
00:15:53.65\00:15:58.65
We hope that it's given
you some direction so far
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with hypothyroidism.
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We hope that you
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Welcome back.
00:17:10.39\00:17:11.36
We've been talking
with Dr. David DeRose.
00:17:11.37\00:17:12.73
We've been
talking about your thyroid
00:17:12.76\00:17:14.81
That little gland right
underneath your Adam's apple.
00:17:14.84\00:17:18.18
Of course, Dr. DeRose, my name
is Mackintosh so maybe we can
00:17:18.21\00:17:22.14
say, "It's right
underneath your Mackintosh!"
00:17:22.17\00:17:24.31
Ok, well, however you want to
remember it, that's where it is.
00:17:24.34\00:17:27.08
You have a ministry
called CompassHealth.
00:17:27.11\00:17:29.76
Many things we're talking
about are on that website
00:17:29.79\00:17:32.62
compasshealth. net.
00:17:32.65\00:17:34.35
This is very useful to us
because as we've said thyroid
00:17:34.38\00:17:39.80
problems afflict a large amount
of women and to a lesser extent
00:17:39.83\00:17:44.43
men but more after
they get over the age of 60.
00:17:44.46\00:17:46.61
We've talked about how it
can crop up after a pregnancy
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but what about the patient
that has cancer and develops
00:17:50.63\00:17:54.78
thyroid problems?
00:17:54.81\00:17:55.91
The most classic form of cancer
that causes thyroid problems is
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thyroid cancer.
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Typically the treatment
for thyroid cancer involves
00:18:01.96\00:18:06.50
total destruction
of all thyroid tissue -
00:18:06.53\00:18:10.44
first with surgery.
00:18:10.47\00:18:13.87
If surgery cannot remove all
the thyroid tissue they'll give
00:18:13.90\00:18:18.03
a radio active iodine following
the surgery that will destroy
00:18:18.06\00:18:22.72
any remaining thyroid tissue.
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Thyroid cancer, by the
way, is one of the very
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treatable cancers.
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Most types of thyroid cancers
are very treatable and do not
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kill many times.
00:18:31.68\00:18:33.32
If you had to choose a
cancer thyroid cancer is one
00:18:33.35\00:18:37.23
of the better ones to choose.
00:18:37.26\00:18:38.85
But what I think you're getting
at in the question is what
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happens after you've
had that thyroid wiped out.
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Is that correct?
00:18:45.35\00:18:46.36
Right.
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Just one thing before, and
I know this is maybe not your
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area of specialty, when
should you be concerned and how
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could someone know
they have thyroid cancer?
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All those same signs and
symptoms are kind of going
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haywire or what?
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No, usually the first
sign of thyroid cancer is a
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growth in the neck.
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Ok, so it's an
enlarging of that gland.
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Yes, it typically starts
with just a nodule, or a lump,
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or a bump in the gland.
00:19:09.32\00:19:10.59
Sometimes people will notice
it on their own, other times
00:19:10.62\00:19:14.15
they won't.
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I had a woman call
me just a few weeks ago.
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She went to one of these
free ultrasound screenings.
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As they were screening
her carotid arteries, and the
00:19:26.20\00:19:29.02
ultrasound tech who was doing it
actually looked at her thyroid
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and saw some nodules there.
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That was fortunate.
00:19:35.08\00:19:37.08
It is fortunate but the
unfortunate thing is if you
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screen enough people that way
probably 30-50% us have nodules.
00:19:40.29\00:19:45.21
But she had some big
nodules that were palpable.
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They could be felt.
00:19:47.96\00:19:48.93
She just hadn't noticed them.
00:19:48.94\00:19:50.37
She ended up
apparently having cancer.
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So, yes, a lump in the neck,
swollen lymph glands, if the
00:19:52.87\00:19:57.95
cancer is more advanced it's
become infiltrated or spread
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you may have
changes in your voice,
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and other things like that.
00:20:04.22\00:20:05.99
So all those can be indicators.
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Let's say they've been diagnosed
and then the thyroid has been
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radiated or eradicated through
surgery or radio active iodine
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what do you want to
say about their levels?
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Well basically
they're going to have zero
00:20:19.20\00:20:20.80
thyroid production capacity.
00:20:20.83\00:20:23.99
So they're going to have
a life or death need to take
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thyroid replacement.
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It's a good question because
it's a way of saying what is
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the total
thyroid need for anybody?
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No thyroid function, someone
with cancer, all their thyroid
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tissue is gone.
00:20:36.76\00:20:37.73
The average adult, middle aged
100-150 micro grams per day.
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That's going to be
the replacement range.
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As we get older, up in
years, that drops to about half.
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So 50-75 micro grams a day.
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Then in young children
and pregnant women the needs
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are often higher,
maybe 175-200 micro grams.
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That's something to
work with your doctor on.
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Definitely!
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They'll be monitoring the
TSH to see what the pituitary is
00:21:11.48\00:21:14.44
saying about the
amount of thyroid your taking.
00:21:14.47\00:21:16.20
Let's say I'm taking this
thyroid replacement therapy,
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some people say I
should avoid certain foods
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like soy or these other things.
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Is there anything to that?
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Well, there's no question that
in soy products and in other
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plant products there's some
naturally occurring goitrogens.
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Goitrogens - the same
thing we call a goiter?
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Yes it comes from the same term.
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These compounds actually
do have a mild adverse effect
00:21:40.71\00:21:47.75
on the thyroid.
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But we've got to
put that in perspective.
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If you look at the foods that
has some of these goitrogens
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these are nutritional
powerhouses - the soy foods,
00:21:53.59\00:21:56.82
cruciferous vegetables such
as broccoli and cauliflower.
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I can imagine there are some of
our viewers saying, "Hey, great
00:21:59.51\00:22:03.43
I've been waiting for my excuse
to not eat broccoli, soybeans,
00:22:03.46\00:22:08.43
or tofu.
00:22:08.46\00:22:09.87
But actually, here's the issue.
00:22:09.90\00:22:12.77
If you're on thyroid replacement
that is not going to make a
00:22:12.80\00:22:17.97
whit of difference.
00:22:18.00\00:22:19.07
You're still going
to have to take a pill.
00:22:19.10\00:22:22.09
The bigger concern when it comes
to dietary things are some very
00:22:22.12\00:22:25.85
potent things that can
be blocking thyroid function
00:22:25.88\00:22:28.74
and these are
man made compounds.
00:22:28.77\00:22:30.66
Such as what?
00:22:30.69\00:22:32.85
Things that you'll find in
herbicides and other toxins
00:22:32.88\00:22:37.65
that are in the environment.
00:22:37.68\00:22:38.71
And of course no one goes
out and says, "I'm going to get
00:22:38.74\00:22:40.19
myself herbicide and toxins!"
00:22:40.22\00:22:41.70
Those are like
occurring in fish.
00:22:41.73\00:22:45.37
The higher you go up in the food
chain, and what we mean by that,
00:22:45.40\00:22:50.37
I know you know what we mean
by it, but for those who are not
00:22:50.40\00:22:53.27
familiar with our
description of this.
00:22:53.30\00:22:55.84
Basically low on the
food chain is the sources...
00:22:55.87\00:23:00.35
plants
00:23:00.38\00:23:01.35
yes, the plant.
00:23:01.36\00:23:03.00
But I was going to make
it a little more dramatic,
00:23:03.03\00:23:05.62
more colorful, but since
you cut right to the chase
00:23:05.65\00:23:08.62
we'll just say the
plants - the very simple things
00:23:08.65\00:23:11.27
the Lord created.
00:23:11.30\00:23:12.27
Then what eats those?
00:23:12.28\00:23:14.46
As you go up higher in
the food chain you've got
00:23:14.49\00:23:15.82
the vegetarian animals and
then higher up on the food chain
00:23:15.85\00:23:20.17
are the
carnivorous animals, etcetera.
00:23:20.20\00:23:22.51
The higher you go up
on the food chain the more
00:23:22.54\00:23:24.13
toxic and concentrated.
00:23:24.16\00:23:26.14
So the big fish, long
living fish, these scavengers,
00:23:26.17\00:23:30.44
these kind of things
can have higher toxin levels
00:23:30.47\00:23:32.54
they'll concentrate
many of these compounds.
00:23:32.57\00:23:34.77
The one strategy is try
to avoid animal products.
00:23:34.80\00:23:38.26
This is a much more important
issue from my looking at the
00:23:38.29\00:23:41.25
data then trying to
avoid soy or broccoli.
00:23:41.28\00:23:43.72
You're better off eating
more soy and broccoli and less
00:23:43.75\00:23:46.59
milk, meat, eggs, and cheese.
00:23:46.62\00:23:48.02
So check where you are on
the food chain is the big thing.
00:23:48.05\00:23:50.61
If you have any questions go to
compasshealth. net and they have
00:23:50.64\00:23:53.99
a food chain there
probably and you can see what's
00:23:54.02\00:23:56.34
important for you.
00:23:56.37\00:23:57.74
Let's say I'm
already a vegetarian.
00:23:57.77\00:24:00.07
Is there anything else
that I should do or not do?
00:24:00.10\00:24:04.99
Well, one of the things we're
very concerned about are the
00:24:05.02\00:24:07.51
things that are finding
their way into our water supply.
00:24:07.54\00:24:09.84
And the things that
are put into plastics.
00:24:09.87\00:24:16.05
One of the classic cases -
plastic is kept flexible even
00:24:16.08\00:24:21.01
if it's somewhat
rigid by plasticizers.
00:24:21.04\00:24:23.80
These are compounds that are
not part of the plastic itself.
00:24:23.83\00:24:27.95
In a sense they can
leach into the food easily.
00:24:27.98\00:24:30.62
So if you are putting plastic
material into your microwave
00:24:30.65\00:24:35.26
for example and microwaving
plastic is not a good idea
00:24:35.29\00:24:39.30
because you're increasing
the amount of these chemicals
00:24:39.33\00:24:42.60
that are getting into the food.
00:24:42.63\00:24:43.77
Styrofoam?
00:24:43.80\00:24:45.45
Styrofoam, I don't know.
00:24:45.48\00:24:47.45
That's a good question.
00:24:47.48\00:24:48.92
It's a plastic so don't
put it on your plastic plate
00:24:48.95\00:24:51.74
and heat it up.
00:24:51.77\00:24:52.74
Or your plastic container.
00:24:52.75\00:24:55.66
I don't want to
mention any brands.
00:24:55.69\00:25:00.02
I was avoiding
trying to do that.
00:25:00.05\00:25:02.83
It's better to just
put it on a glass plate.
00:25:02.86\00:25:07.50
Glass is the best -
glass or other inert materials
00:25:07.53\00:25:10.30
for storing and for microwaving.
00:25:10.33\00:25:13.00
The other place
where we find these toxins
00:25:13.03\00:25:15.94
is in our water supply.
00:25:15.97\00:25:17.38
I encourage people to do
something with their water
00:25:17.41\00:25:20.78
whether it's reverse
osmosis or distillation plus
00:25:20.81\00:25:25.06
charcoal filtration
- don't forget that.
00:25:25.09\00:25:27.46
In other words water supply can
have a lot of these chemicals
00:25:27.49\00:25:34.82
which can cause
problems with the thyroid.
00:25:34.85\00:25:37.25
The reason I make the point
with distillation is because
00:25:37.28\00:25:42.77
many of these
compounds are volatile.
00:25:42.80\00:25:46.06
That means if you boil the
water, that's what's being done
00:25:46.09\00:25:48.41
in distillation, along with
the water vapor is going to come
00:25:48.44\00:25:51.65
some of these toxins.
00:25:51.68\00:25:52.93
So when you pass this water
first through a charcoal filter
00:25:52.96\00:25:57.15
that gets out those
toxins so then the distillation
00:25:57.18\00:26:00.80
is a more purer product.
00:26:00.83\00:26:03.22
Two things - can exercise
help this and what would you say
00:26:03.25\00:26:08.37
as a Christian clinician
would be a spiritual approach?
00:26:08.40\00:26:11.32
There are some very interesting
things that we've got to keep
00:26:11.35\00:26:13.75
in mind about this.
00:26:13.78\00:26:14.90
When it comes to exercise
one of the most interesting
00:26:14.93\00:26:18.50
things in the athletic
literature is that over exercise
00:26:18.53\00:26:22.30
suppresses thyroid function.
00:26:22.33\00:26:24.22
I don't think most of
our viewers have a problem
00:26:24.25\00:26:26.04
with that.
00:26:26.07\00:26:27.04
Yes, that's why I'm
smiling. - laughter -
00:26:27.05\00:26:28.14
But you know what, Don, in
some of the research we've done
00:26:28.17\00:26:31.34
even people who are sedentary
starting on an exercise program
00:26:31.37\00:26:35.34
we've found some evidence
that they may be doing too much
00:26:35.37\00:26:39.03
exercise.
00:26:39.06\00:26:40.03
The bottom line if someone's
not active, they want to
00:26:40.04\00:26:42.80
exercise, listen to their body.
00:26:42.83\00:26:45.14
We're not saying if you've
been exercising 20 minutes a day
00:26:45.17\00:26:47.86
cut it down to five.
00:26:47.89\00:26:48.86
Still do the 20
minutes but don't...
00:26:48.88\00:26:51.23
Look if you're 60 years old guy
and you haven't been exercising
00:26:51.26\00:26:55.30
for years don't go out to the
track and see if you can beat
00:26:55.33\00:26:58.47
some 30 year old woman
around the track whose out there
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running it's just
unwise not only for your heart
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but also for your thyroid.
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Ok, so that's an
interesting connection.
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What would you say
spiritually as a thought
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as we close the program?
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One of the precious promises
in the Bible that I think speaks
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to this is in Psalm 103.
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David there is
praising the Lord.
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"Bless the Lord oh my
soul, and all that is within me,
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bless His holy name.
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Bless the Lord oh my soul, and
forget not all His benefits. "
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He speaks of some of the
great things that the Lord does
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and one of them
is healing disease.
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The Lord may not always heal
disease in this life but we can
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trust Him to help us to
get on a program of health and
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ultimately have
true healing in eternity.
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Thanks so much for joining
us and helping us with a rather
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complicated
subject today, Doctor.
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Thank you for joining us.
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You can get some
of this information on
00:27:49.09\00:27:50.93
campasshealth. net.
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We're glad you joined us
for Health for a Lifetime
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and we hope your
thyroid is healthy as a result.
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