The following program presents 00:00:01.98\00:00:02.95 principles designed to promote good health 00:00:02.96\00:00:05.11 and is not intended to take the place 00:00:05.12\00:00:06.81 of personalized professional care. 00:00:06.82\00:00:09.31 The opinions and ideas expressed 00:00:09.32\00:00:11.20 are those of the speaker. 00:00:11.21\00:00:12.67 Viewers are encouraged to draw 00:00:12.68\00:00:14.23 their own conclusions about the information presented. 00:00:14.24\00:00:17.33 Hello, and welcome to "Health for a Lifetime." 00:00:49.74\00:00:51.42 I'm your host Don Mackintosh. 00:00:51.43\00:00:52.73 And today we're gonna talk about a serious, 00:00:52.74\00:00:54.85 but important subject, natural disasters 00:00:54.86\00:00:58.00 and their impact on us not just physically, 00:00:58.01\00:01:00.48 but our mental health and joining us in the sudid today 00:01:00.49\00:01:03.68 we talked about this is a psychiatrist, 00:01:03.69\00:01:06.08 who has been trained in both adult, 00:01:06.09\00:01:08.54 and now doing a fellowship in child 00:01:08.55\00:01:10.85 and adolescent psychiatry, Dr. Borge 00:01:10.86\00:01:15.55 and you're from Pittsburg, isn't that right? Yes. 00:01:15.56\00:01:17.95 And you got interested in psychiatry 00:01:17.96\00:01:20.66 and helping people in this way, how? 00:01:20.67\00:01:24.20 Well, you know, after recent natural disasters 00:01:24.21\00:01:27.30 going on with our country 00:01:27.31\00:01:28.91 and also overseas, I was wondering a what kind of 00:01:28.92\00:01:32.43 mental illnesses one can, you know, 00:01:32.44\00:01:35.42 expect and of course, so I was wondering 00:01:35.43\00:01:38.95 I would like to know more about this 00:01:38.96\00:01:40.61 and I was thinking of what I can do-- 00:01:40.62\00:01:43.24 To help. To help. 00:01:43.25\00:01:44.54 So I got interested. 00:01:44.55\00:01:46.45 So this is, I mean, this is a large group 00:01:46.46\00:01:48.80 you're working with today, 00:01:48.81\00:01:49.78 I mean, you're gonna impact what the Lord's help. 00:01:49.79\00:01:52.27 A lot of people and hopefully give them, 00:01:52.28\00:01:54.25 you know, some inside and what, what's normal, 00:01:54.26\00:01:57.90 what's not normal, and what can really help them. 00:01:57.91\00:02:00.53 Absolutely, I mean, the goal is here 00:02:00.54\00:02:02.27 to educate the people, you know, I feel very sorry 00:02:02.28\00:02:05.73 for what people and families have gone through 00:02:05.74\00:02:08.40 and are going through, and what I'd like to do is, 00:02:08.41\00:02:10.87 you know, see how I can help by educating them. 00:02:10.88\00:02:13.38 By telling them of information 00:02:13.39\00:02:15.31 that can be helpful to them, so that they can, 00:02:15.32\00:02:18.68 you know, have better lives and be able to deal 00:02:18.69\00:02:22.04 wit the stressors in a much better way. 00:02:22.05\00:02:24.94 Now you and I have talked 00:02:24.95\00:02:26.11 in another program which of people interest 00:02:26.12\00:02:28.37 in that they can get it from 3ABN. 00:02:28.38\00:02:31.25 On children and the impact of natural disasters, 00:02:31.26\00:02:33.98 but we want to talk about adults 00:02:33.99\00:02:35.86 in this particular segment, but first of all 00:02:35.87\00:02:39.12 we want to define what a traumatic 00:02:39.13\00:02:42.65 or natural disaster would be and then look at 00:02:42.66\00:02:45.52 some normal reactions, 00:02:45.53\00:02:46.81 and then look at some risk factors. 00:02:46.82\00:02:48.66 Before we then look more specifically at some specifics 00:02:48.67\00:02:52.19 so first of all, what is a definition 00:02:52.20\00:02:54.33 of the natural disaster or traumatic event? 00:02:54.34\00:02:57.65 Yeah, anybody who has gone our experienced event 00:02:57.66\00:03:01.56 or events after a natural disaster 00:03:01.57\00:03:05.58 is undergoes through what is called 00:03:05.59\00:03:08.33 a traumatic stress reaction. 00:03:08.34\00:03:10.97 And a traumatic stress reaction is the person 00:03:10.98\00:03:13.67 who has eye witnessed or experienced events 00:03:13.68\00:03:17.47 in which the physical and integrity of themselves 00:03:17.48\00:03:22.72 or others has been threatened 00:03:22.73\00:03:25.24 have experience what is called 00:03:25.25\00:03:27.60 a traumatic stress reaction, and-- 00:03:27.61\00:03:32.01 Lots of people who go through that, 00:03:32.02\00:03:33.29 I mean, like medical workers, 00:03:33.30\00:03:35.60 emergency workers, fire workers. 00:03:35.61\00:03:37.32 Absolutely, and those people who are involved 00:03:37.33\00:03:41.28 in those areas where the stress and mortality 00:03:41.29\00:03:44.51 is high have also experience 00:03:44.52\00:03:46.99 what is we called trauma. 00:03:47.00\00:03:49.21 According to the American Psychological Association 00:03:49.22\00:03:52.69 approximately 70% of US adults have experienced 00:03:52.70\00:03:57.69 at least one traumatic event in their lifetime 00:03:57.70\00:04:01.66 and one in five gone to develop symptoms 00:04:01.67\00:04:04.61 of what we called posttraumatic stress disorder. 00:04:04.62\00:04:07.25 Would you consider seeing like I watched 00:04:07.26\00:04:11.67 when the Twin Towers felt, September 11, 00:04:11.68\00:04:14.13 is that a traumatic event? 00:04:14.14\00:04:16.05 Suppose to be me, it was if, 00:04:16.06\00:04:18.19 I saw people physically jumping out of windows 00:04:18.20\00:04:21.19 was that a trauma for the whole country? 00:04:21.20\00:04:23.15 would that count as one event? 00:04:23.16\00:04:24.94 Yes, absolutely, you know, 00:04:24.95\00:04:26.86 if you have witnessed or traumatic event 00:04:26.87\00:04:29.18 to that magnitude is definitely traumatic 00:04:29.19\00:04:32.16 but I think it depends on the individuals. 00:04:32.17\00:04:34.32 Some people who have witness 00:04:34.33\00:04:36.85 different types of trauma in their lifetime before, 00:04:36.86\00:04:39.40 maybe more resistant to developing trauma 00:04:39.41\00:04:41.94 after witnessing something like that 00:04:41.95\00:04:43.85 or as others who have not and who felt like probably, 00:04:43.86\00:04:47.42 you know, it is very safe to be in America 00:04:47.43\00:04:49.71 and safe to be in that, probably, in that area 00:04:49.72\00:04:53.31 and that nothing like this 00:04:53.32\00:04:54.40 would happen to them, to them it might be 00:04:54.41\00:04:56.90 very, very traumatic compare to someone else. 00:04:56.91\00:04:59.94 So, but definitely witnessing a traumatic event 00:04:59.95\00:05:04.58 where the integrity and a danger was involved 00:05:04.59\00:05:08.74 to the person or others also is, 00:05:08.75\00:05:13.61 a person can also go through what is called 00:05:13.62\00:05:15.36 a traumatic stress reaction. 00:05:15.37\00:05:16.85 So, I mean, living in Florida would be kind of 00:05:16.86\00:05:19.07 traumatic at this time, living in different places, 00:05:19.08\00:05:21.82 these or seeing it on television 00:05:21.83\00:05:24.01 all these things kind of add up, absolutely. 00:05:24.02\00:05:26.53 So this is very important to talk about 00:05:26.54\00:05:27.92 what are some normal reactions 00:05:27.93\00:05:29.43 to these traumatic, traumatic stressors. 00:05:29.44\00:05:32.31 Yes, and I think that's very important 00:05:32.32\00:05:34.38 to keep in mind that these are normal reactions. 00:05:34.39\00:05:38.30 Because after experiencing trauma to this extend 00:05:38.31\00:05:42.67 that you are expected to undergo 00:05:42.68\00:05:45.86 certain normal reactions. 00:05:45.87\00:05:47.84 For example, we can talk about emotional reactions 00:05:47.85\00:05:51.07 where you can have shock denial, 00:05:51.08\00:05:54.24 anger, resentment, can feel abandoned 00:05:54.25\00:05:57.47 or a strange from people, you can feel betrayed, 00:05:57.48\00:06:01.33 you can get, you can feel depressed. Or patriotic. 00:06:01.34\00:06:05.81 Yes, absolutely you can, you can feel patriotic also, 00:06:05.82\00:06:10.35 you can feel lot of psychological distress 00:06:10.36\00:06:14.07 you can have flashbacks of the event, 00:06:14.08\00:06:16.44 you can have nightmares, you can feel, you know, 00:06:16.45\00:06:20.51 have all these stressing images or memories, 00:06:20.52\00:06:24.00 you can have memory loss of the event, 00:06:24.01\00:06:27.29 you can have physical reactions to the trauma, 00:06:27.30\00:06:32.04 you can have chest pain or discomfort, 00:06:32.05\00:06:34.57 you can have abdominal pain or distress, 00:06:34.58\00:06:38.47 you can have physical tension, fatigue, 00:06:38.48\00:06:41.71 you can feel paresthesia or numbness of the extremities 00:06:41.72\00:06:46.07 you can have headaches. 00:06:46.08\00:06:48.34 So these are some of the physical symptoms for trauma. 00:06:48.35\00:06:52.46 Interpersonal situations or reactions that are normal. 00:06:52.47\00:06:55.60 These are normal by the way 00:06:55.61\00:06:56.94 what you're talking about. 00:06:56.95\00:06:57.92 Absolutely, interpersonal you can, 00:06:57.93\00:07:01.46 people can get more have difficulty 00:07:01.47\00:07:04.76 with their relationships with their spouses, 00:07:04.77\00:07:06.89 with their families, with their children, 00:07:06.90\00:07:09.01 they can get more aggie, 00:07:09.02\00:07:10.54 more irritable with their relationships 00:07:10.55\00:07:13.11 they can feel, like I said, betrayed, 00:07:13.12\00:07:15.63 they can feel abandoned, sometimes they can feel 00:07:15.64\00:07:18.86 like the responsibility over them is overwhelming, 00:07:18.87\00:07:23.13 especially for male figure, 00:07:23.14\00:07:25.78 who is the head of the household by feel that, 00:07:25.79\00:07:28.26 okay, this is so much that they have to 00:07:28.27\00:07:30.72 take care of and deal with, so they might feel 00:07:30.73\00:07:34.14 more anxious and more stressed out. 00:07:34.15\00:07:38.06 Spiritually I imagine some people angry with God 00:07:38.07\00:07:40.76 and some people would say, I don't know, 00:07:40.77\00:07:42.55 I don't have anything to do with God anymore 00:07:42.56\00:07:43.98 and some people get closer to God. 00:07:43.99\00:07:45.66 Absolutely, some people can look at this as, 00:07:45.67\00:07:48.28 God, where were You, where were You 00:07:48.29\00:07:49.87 when I lost my child, when I lost my spouse, 00:07:49.88\00:07:52.52 where were You, I did You let this happen to me 00:07:52.53\00:07:54.90 and they can requisitioning God over and over, 00:07:54.91\00:07:57.10 they can get very resentful with God, 00:07:57.11\00:07:59.12 they can get very angry, 00:07:59.13\00:08:00.72 they can lose their faith in God. 00:08:00.73\00:08:02.85 Whereas some people can look at it as sign 00:08:02.86\00:08:06.86 from God saying that they need to change 00:08:06.87\00:08:08.98 their lifestyle that they were living 00:08:08.99\00:08:10.89 and they might become more closure to God. 00:08:10.90\00:08:13.55 So those are normal reactions, 00:08:13.56\00:08:15.37 but let's quickly go through some of the risk factors 00:08:15.38\00:08:18.70 in other words, those are normal reactions 00:08:18.71\00:08:20.72 and those as they play out 00:08:20.73\00:08:23.24 are actually a healthy thing, 00:08:23.25\00:08:24.44 they're coping mechanism, 00:08:24.45\00:08:25.92 maybe you caught there, but what about risk factors, 00:08:25.93\00:08:29.82 what are some of the things 00:08:29.83\00:08:30.80 that are very, well, risk factors? 00:08:30.81\00:08:33.80 Yeah, some of the risk factors are like, 00:08:33.81\00:08:35.96 if you lose communication with your family, 00:08:35.97\00:08:38.59 with your neighborhood, 00:08:38.60\00:08:39.86 with the community that is a risk factor, 00:08:39.87\00:08:42.59 if there is property loss that's really-- 00:08:42.60\00:08:45.01 That was really digging these hurricanes. 00:08:45.02\00:08:46.57 Absolutely, that's another risk factor, 00:08:46.58\00:08:49.41 if there is danger to yourself-- 00:08:49.42\00:08:51.80 Fear of safety. Absolutely. 00:08:51.81\00:08:53.44 And if you see lot of destruction 00:08:53.45\00:08:56.93 or death around you, that's another risk factor. 00:08:56.94\00:08:59.85 If there is a history of previous trauma, 00:08:59.86\00:09:03.56 that's another risk factor. 00:09:03.57\00:09:05.51 If someone has medical condition that can, 00:09:05.52\00:09:09.57 it can worsen, and so you can have worsening 00:09:09.58\00:09:12.55 of medical or psychological conditions 00:09:12.56\00:09:15.60 and giving you a risk factor to get illnesses 00:09:15.61\00:09:20.38 or you could-- Divorce, job loss. 00:09:20.39\00:09:23.41 Absolutely, you can divorce and job losses 00:09:23.42\00:09:26.22 another stressor for developing trauma. 00:09:26.23\00:09:29.44 So all these are risk factors and, I mean, 00:09:29.45\00:09:31.66 they're devastating in and of themselves, 00:09:31.67\00:09:33.19 they're all made your events to just huge, 00:09:33.20\00:09:35.91 and I'm sure you see a lot of people 00:09:35.92\00:09:37.49 that are just dealing with one of those things, 00:09:37.50\00:09:39.83 but these are compound in international disaster. 00:09:39.84\00:09:42.64 Yes, absolutely. 00:09:42.65\00:09:44.29 Okay, well we, you know, we talked 00:09:44.30\00:09:45.72 in the previous program about children, 00:09:45.73\00:09:47.21 but now, you know, 00:09:47.22\00:09:48.59 we want to focus in this program more on adults 00:09:48.60\00:09:50.83 and there are some of these things 00:09:50.84\00:09:52.94 that adults were experienced that you mentioned 00:09:52.95\00:09:56.60 post-traumatic stress disorder, 00:09:56.61\00:09:58.09 major depression, and generalized anxiety disorder, 00:09:58.10\00:10:02.38 and let's just work through those. 00:10:02.39\00:10:03.63 What are those mean and then hopefully 00:10:03.64\00:10:07.02 what can we do about them, 00:10:07.03\00:10:08.09 post-traumatic stress disorder for us? 00:10:08.10\00:10:10.87 Yes, post-traumatic stress disorder 00:10:10.88\00:10:12.57 or what we call as PTSD is also when someone 00:10:12.58\00:10:16.56 has eye witnessed or experienced situations 00:10:16.57\00:10:21.15 or events in which they were threatened, 00:10:21.16\00:10:24.50 their life was threatened or injured, 00:10:24.51\00:10:28.20 and their reaction to that involved 00:10:28.21\00:10:31.23 severe helplessness or horror 00:10:31.24\00:10:34.43 is one of the thing which constitutes PTSD. 00:10:34.44\00:10:39.38 So helplessness or horror, this is not you seen, 00:10:39.39\00:10:41.24 it's actually experiencing for sure 00:10:41.25\00:10:43.08 Yes, yes. Okay. 00:10:43.09\00:10:44.54 And the person re-experiences these events 00:10:44.55\00:10:49.14 in couple of different ways, 00:10:49.15\00:10:50.88 they can have flashbacks about it, 00:10:50.89\00:10:53.28 they can have distress in thoughts or images, 00:10:53.29\00:10:55.50 they can have nightmares about this, 00:10:55.51\00:10:58.13 they can actually experience it 00:10:58.14\00:11:02.23 as if it were happening again, 00:11:02.24\00:11:04.33 so which we called reliving the traumatic experience 00:11:04.34\00:11:08.46 or they could develop sleep disturbances 00:11:08.47\00:11:13.37 related to this trauma. 00:11:13.38\00:11:16.58 And so that's, that is not a natural reaction, 00:11:16.59\00:11:20.00 it's actually something that they're gonna need 00:11:20.01\00:11:21.63 to have help getting through. 00:11:21.64\00:11:23.61 Yes, actually, see sometimes 00:11:23.62\00:11:27.98 you can have natural reactions, you know, 00:11:27.99\00:11:29.87 you can have nightmares, you can have flashbacks, 00:11:29.88\00:11:32.56 you can have images of the trauma again 00:11:32.57\00:11:37.88 as if you're re-experiencing them, 00:11:37.89\00:11:40.10 but when it becomes to the point where 00:11:40.11\00:11:43.51 it is going on for a longtime 00:11:43.52\00:11:45.28 and it is interfering with your social 00:11:45.29\00:11:48.64 and occupational functioning that's when like 00:11:48.65\00:11:51.97 natural normal reactions are not normal anymore, 00:11:51.98\00:11:56.07 that's when they go beyond that state-- 00:11:56.08\00:11:59.07 For five years later they're still doing that or even. 00:11:59.08\00:12:01.43 Sure, some studies have shown PTSD 00:12:01.44\00:12:03.52 according like yours even up to 00:12:03.53\00:12:05.09 like 14 years after the event. 00:12:05.10\00:12:07.39 So what do they do for this? What would you do? 00:12:07.40\00:12:10.05 Someone comes in, how we help someone that's, 00:12:10.06\00:12:12.28 most people watch and they're going through them, 00:12:12.29\00:12:14.39 what do they do? 00:12:14.40\00:12:15.37 First of all, acknowledge that this is what's happening 00:12:15.38\00:12:18.22 just by what they've listen to now 00:12:18.23\00:12:19.99 and then what's the next step? 00:12:20.00\00:12:20.97 Absolutely, you know, I think very important 00:12:20.98\00:12:23.71 is to protect yourself, safety is first. 00:12:23.72\00:12:27.27 So, you know, get away from the situation 00:12:27.28\00:12:29.90 which you are in, which is unexpected 00:12:29.91\00:12:33.70 or you don't know what's going to happen next, 00:12:33.71\00:12:36.29 you need to get yourself or others 00:12:36.30\00:12:38.36 to a safe environment, that is very important. 00:12:38.37\00:12:41.44 Okay. Absolutely. 00:12:41.45\00:12:42.65 And then you need to protect yourself, 00:12:42.66\00:12:44.64 you need to protect yourself 00:12:44.65\00:12:45.81 from the natural, you know, the cold, 00:12:45.82\00:12:49.41 the weather that you're going through 00:12:49.42\00:12:52.33 get the proper nutrition, the food, 00:12:52.34\00:12:54.83 the clean water that you can have, 00:12:54.84\00:12:57.77 so you need to take care 00:12:57.78\00:12:59.58 of yourself in those aspects. 00:12:59.59\00:13:02.20 Basic ways and then what's next? 00:13:02.21\00:13:03.20 Absolutely, you need to get find out 00:13:03.21\00:13:06.22 what is going on in the community 00:13:06.23\00:13:07.81 with the resources around, 00:13:07.82\00:13:09.39 you need to find out where there is help, 00:13:09.40\00:13:11.35 you need to direct your families, 00:13:11.36\00:13:13.42 you need to tell, tell your families where, 00:13:13.43\00:13:15.22 you know, where you can meet or what, 00:13:15.23\00:13:17.02 what is the place that you can get together, 00:13:17.03\00:13:19.58 if something again happens, so you need to direct. 00:13:19.59\00:13:22.86 Put together plans. Absolutely, absolutely. 00:13:22.87\00:13:25.54 And so directing families and your loved ones 00:13:25.55\00:13:29.11 is important, so that one would know 00:13:29.12\00:13:31.61 where to come and where to meet up with, 00:13:31.62\00:13:33.91 in case, something happens again 00:13:33.92\00:13:35.72 or something is ongoing, 00:13:35.73\00:13:37.76 and then you'll need to, you need to connect 00:13:37.77\00:13:40.66 with the resources in the community 00:13:40.67\00:13:42.38 where they're giving the supplies 00:13:42.39\00:13:44.46 or where they're giving the food or the basic needs 00:13:44.47\00:13:46.62 or where there is information about, 00:13:46.63\00:13:48.79 where your loved one could be, 00:13:48.80\00:13:51.00 you know, you need to go and get involved with those 00:13:51.01\00:13:54.40 and inform the people, so that they can help you. 00:13:54.41\00:13:57.81 Instead they see someone like you? 00:13:57.82\00:14:01.19 Professional help is an important aspect. 00:14:01.20\00:14:05.16 After one experiences trauma, 00:14:05.17\00:14:07.21 if they're not feeling better after couple of weeks, 00:14:07.22\00:14:12.54 if they're not improving, 00:14:12.55\00:14:14.13 if their symptoms are not improving 00:14:14.14\00:14:15.95 or if they feel that they're not in control, 00:14:15.96\00:14:19.77 their things are getting out of control, 00:14:19.78\00:14:21.60 if they feel that it's important to speak 00:14:21.61\00:14:24.53 not necessarily a professional or a psychiatrist, 00:14:24.54\00:14:27.60 but you can start with maybe even your community, 00:14:27.61\00:14:30.72 you can start and speak with your friends 00:14:30.73\00:14:32.36 and express like what is going on 00:14:32.37\00:14:34.54 and see how others are feeling, 00:14:34.55\00:14:36.34 how they're reacting. 00:14:36.35\00:14:37.59 Sometimes it's helpful, especially mass disasters 00:14:37.60\00:14:40.82 when someone, when you speak to someone 00:14:40.83\00:14:43.34 and let them know how, what you're going through? 00:14:43.35\00:14:45.61 They're able to, you know, express 00:14:45.62\00:14:49.02 what they're going through tools, 00:14:49.03\00:14:50.82 so sometimes that might relieve your anxiety 00:14:50.83\00:14:53.12 or it might need to things better, 00:14:53.13\00:14:54.36 so that might not necessarily mean that 00:14:54.37\00:14:57.14 you and see a physiatrist. 00:14:57.15\00:14:59.00 So if you, if you talk with your family, 00:14:59.01\00:15:01.88 if you talk with the community, 00:15:01.89\00:15:03.07 sometimes if you think 00:15:03.08\00:15:04.39 you need a little bit more health, 00:15:04.40\00:15:06.01 if you talk to your clergy, 00:15:06.02\00:15:07.11 if you talk to some teachers, and you know, 00:15:07.12\00:15:09.06 I think social workers and people out there 00:15:09.07\00:15:11.53 are good at helping people and recognizing 00:15:11.54\00:15:15.02 when one needs more professional help. 00:15:15.03\00:15:18.45 So, for example, even talking to your primary care physician, 00:15:18.46\00:15:21.76 your physician can determine if you need 00:15:21.77\00:15:23.95 little bit more mental help 00:15:23.96\00:15:26.45 and then refer you to a psychiatrist. 00:15:26.46\00:15:29.65 When we comeback, we'll talk about 00:15:29.66\00:15:31.17 major depression, we'll talk about 00:15:31.18\00:15:32.47 these other things and how to relate to those. 00:15:32.48\00:15:35.65 Thank you for joining us. 00:15:35.66\00:15:36.68 We're talking about natural disasters 00:15:36.69\00:15:38.86 and their impact on mental health. 00:15:38.87\00:15:40.53 And join us when we comeback. 00:15:40.54\00:15:43.15 Have you found yourself wishing 00:15:44.45\00:15:45.78 that you can shed a few pounds? 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00:18:06.63\00:18:07.93 Well, in post traumatic stress disorder or PTSD, 00:18:07.94\00:18:11.14 a person can also have what is called avoidance, 00:18:11.15\00:18:14.20 where they avoid people, places, conversations 00:18:14.21\00:18:18.95 anything that reminds them of their trauma, 00:18:18.96\00:18:22.23 that is also one of the symptom, 00:18:22.24\00:18:24.62 so they're avoiding places, they, 00:18:24.63\00:18:27.77 probably they don't want to go to work, 00:18:27.78\00:18:29.70 maybe, sometimes they don't want to 00:18:29.71\00:18:31.56 be involved in the activities 00:18:31.57\00:18:33.01 that they used to be involved with or enjoy, 00:18:33.02\00:18:36.24 they try to avoid their relationships 00:18:36.25\00:18:39.64 or their family and this is the, this is the way 00:18:39.65\00:18:44.24 that they're, one of the symptoms that 00:18:44.25\00:18:46.29 they're going through with PTSD, okay. 00:18:46.30\00:18:50.06 Well, what one can do more than, 00:18:50.07\00:18:52.25 you know, connecting with family and resources 00:18:52.26\00:18:56.12 around them is once they get 00:18:56.13\00:18:58.26 to their mental health facility 00:18:58.27\00:18:59.56 and speak to a psychiatrist or a psychologist, 00:18:59.57\00:19:03.10 sometimes there are centers also, what is called, 00:19:03.11\00:19:05.70 centers for traumatic stress where they have treatment 00:19:05.71\00:19:11.28 for people who have been through trauma 00:19:11.29\00:19:13.62 that can be group therapy. 00:19:13.63\00:19:15.95 Sometimes it's important to, you know, 00:19:15.96\00:19:19.10 talk with people who have been through 00:19:19.11\00:19:20.35 the similar types of trauma, 00:19:20.36\00:19:21.98 I think that's very helpful for the person, 00:19:21.99\00:19:25.13 sometimes they can have individual therapy 00:19:25.14\00:19:27.66 with psychologist or psychiatrist 00:19:27.67\00:19:30.11 or some and depending on what their mental health 00:19:30.12\00:19:34.10 professional decides, sometimes they might need 00:19:34.11\00:19:36.78 also some medication to help you get through 00:19:36.79\00:19:40.33 these traumatic symptoms that you're going through, 00:19:40.34\00:19:44.22 these flashbacks, these reliving the experience, 00:19:44.23\00:19:47.44 this anxiety, this fear, this feeling of numbness. 00:19:47.45\00:19:50.65 So sometimes you might need some medications 00:19:50.66\00:19:54.07 also and that, that depends 00:19:54.08\00:19:55.82 on the mental health professional, 00:19:55.83\00:19:57.52 once they diagnose you. 00:19:57.53\00:19:59.07 But, you know, it's very important to go ahead 00:19:59.08\00:20:02.15 and get involved with 00:20:02.16\00:20:04.48 the different resources out there. 00:20:04.49\00:20:07.81 Now there is other things that you've said 00:20:07.82\00:20:09.20 can happen in a natural disasters, 00:20:09.21\00:20:11.00 you've said major depression is another thing 00:20:11.01\00:20:12.94 and a generalized anxiety disorder, panic disorders, 00:20:12.95\00:20:17.57 and specific phobias, let's go through 00:20:17.58\00:20:21.01 those rather rapidly because I want to then see 00:20:21.02\00:20:23.63 what you would do, I think there's probably common ways 00:20:23.64\00:20:26.56 to treat all of those. 00:20:26.57\00:20:28.44 So let's go through them very rapidly to define 00:20:28.45\00:20:31.23 what they are and then we have about seven minutes, 00:20:31.24\00:20:33.41 we want to use at least five of those 00:20:33.42\00:20:35.07 to talk about what to do. 00:20:35.08\00:20:36.28 So let's go quickly through the, 00:20:36.29\00:20:38.19 first of all, major depression. 00:20:38.20\00:20:39.56 Yeah, a person who has been through 00:20:39.57\00:20:41.81 or going through what is called major depression 00:20:41.82\00:20:43.75 is experiencing symptoms for a period of two weeks 00:20:43.76\00:20:47.02 or more where they experience depressed mood, 00:20:47.03\00:20:50.72 difficulty with sleeping, that is falling asleep 00:20:50.73\00:20:54.17 or staying asleep. 00:20:54.18\00:20:56.14 They have, they lose interest in things 00:20:56.15\00:21:00.22 that they used to do before, 00:21:00.23\00:21:01.73 they also have problems concentrating, 00:21:01.74\00:21:04.21 their energy is low, and they feel sluggish, 00:21:04.22\00:21:08.95 their appetite maybe decreased 00:21:09.94\00:21:12.14 or maybe sometimes increased. 00:21:12.15\00:21:13.98 Some people have increased appetite, 00:21:13.99\00:21:16.60 they feel guilty about what has happened 00:21:16.61\00:21:20.56 and what is going on or their reactions 00:21:20.57\00:21:22.78 to what has happened. 00:21:22.79\00:21:24.95 Sometimes there is psychomotor retardation 00:21:24.96\00:21:27.81 or agitation what we call is a person 00:21:27.82\00:21:30.51 is a little bit more irritable 00:21:30.52\00:21:31.81 when they're psychomotor agitated, 00:21:31.82\00:21:33.52 and retardation is where they're kind of more... 00:21:33.53\00:21:35.80 Sluggish. Exactly, sluggish. 00:21:35.81\00:21:37.12 And then sometimes they can have 00:21:37.13\00:21:40.54 suicidal thoughts. Okay. That's-- 00:21:40.55\00:21:43.38 So this would be of all those things are happening 00:21:43.39\00:21:45.57 like you think maybe this is a major depression. 00:21:45.58\00:21:48.55 What about generalized anxiety? 00:21:48.56\00:21:50.61 Generalized anxiety is when, you know, 00:21:50.62\00:21:53.85 there's typical what we talked about normal anxiety, 00:21:53.86\00:21:57.26 certain amount of anxiety after a natural disaster, 00:21:57.27\00:22:00.35 whereas generalized anxiety disorder is kind of 00:22:00.36\00:22:03.80 more in areas of not just necessarily in areas 00:22:03.81\00:22:09.61 that you know you get feel stressed out 00:22:09.62\00:22:12.59 or traumatized about, it is even in other areas 00:22:12.60\00:22:16.72 where probably you were doing functioning normally, 00:22:16.73\00:22:19.35 okay, that you have excessive anxiety 00:22:19.36\00:22:22.42 where it is, where the person recognizes that 00:22:22.43\00:22:25.45 this is excessive and this is, 00:22:25.46\00:22:28.04 this is unreasonable amount of anxiety. 00:22:28.05\00:22:31.98 They were never like this, sort of like the Bible says, 00:22:31.99\00:22:32.96 "Men's hearts failing them for fear." 00:22:32.97\00:22:34.76 Yes, and then they find it also difficult to control 00:22:34.77\00:22:38.42 this worry or anxiety that they're experiencing. 00:22:38.43\00:22:40.69 And they can go again through physical symptoms involved 00:22:40.70\00:22:44.48 with this generalized anxiety disorder 00:22:44.49\00:22:46.80 or psychological symptoms, you know, 00:22:46.81\00:22:49.86 a lot of symptoms and then this has to be 00:22:49.87\00:22:52.31 for a period of, you know, longer period of time. 00:22:52.32\00:22:55.48 Okay, panic disorders and specific phobias 00:22:55.49\00:22:59.34 and we're already to our five minutes, 00:22:59.35\00:23:01.61 so very briefly on this and then, 00:23:01.62\00:23:02.72 let's spend at least four minutes talking 00:23:02.73\00:23:05.29 about the treatment. 00:23:05.30\00:23:06.27 Sure, panic disorders is to discuss 00:23:06.28\00:23:11.08 what are panic disorders, we have to discuss 00:23:11.09\00:23:12.52 what panic attack is and very briefly panic attack 00:23:12.53\00:23:15.87 is a discreet amount of period of intense fear 00:23:15.88\00:23:20.69 or anxiety, in which symptoms are expressed 00:23:20.70\00:23:25.20 in a period of 10 minutes or less. 00:23:25.21\00:23:27.93 And some of the symptoms you can have 00:23:28.16\00:23:30.22 in panic and attack is where you feel like 00:23:30.23\00:23:33.20 you're getting chest pains or you know, 00:23:33.21\00:23:35.84 heart throbbing or feel of choking or feel 00:23:35.85\00:23:38.37 of the sensation of nausea, you get probably headaches 00:23:38.38\00:23:42.28 and like I said again, paresthesias 00:23:42.29\00:23:44.69 or a lot of physical complaints and panic attack. 00:23:44.70\00:23:49.06 So now panic disorder is 00:23:49.07\00:23:51.28 recurrent episodes of panic attacks. 00:23:51.29\00:23:54.23 Those 10 minute episodes. Yes. Okay. 00:23:54.24\00:23:56.12 And then this can, in panic disorder 00:23:56.13\00:23:59.19 you can also have excessive concern of getting 00:23:59.20\00:24:03.77 this panic attacks and you also worry 00:24:03.78\00:24:07.28 of the implications of this-- 00:24:07.29\00:24:08.70 You panic about being panicked, it's like really bad. 00:24:08.71\00:24:11.53 You worry of, you know, what's gonna happen, 00:24:11.54\00:24:13.65 related to your job or related to your relationship 00:24:13.66\00:24:17.73 because of this panic attacks. 00:24:17.74\00:24:19.58 And then the person also makes major lifestyle changes 00:24:19.59\00:24:23.50 because of this panic attacks. 00:24:23.51\00:24:26.07 And for example, a person who is going to, 00:24:26.08\00:24:29.38 you know, work, they might decided 00:24:29.39\00:24:30.95 that they can't work in that type of a job 00:24:30.96\00:24:32.78 anymore because they're gonna get come up 00:24:32.79\00:24:34.66 with the panic attack and might decide to change 00:24:34.67\00:24:37.36 their job and go for something else. 00:24:37.37\00:24:39.95 Okay, then we've got three minutes 00:24:39.96\00:24:42.31 and let's talk about, you have about five or six points 00:24:42.32\00:24:46.51 and what do you do about these? 00:24:46.52\00:24:47.73 What is the hope? What can we do to 00:24:47.74\00:24:49.13 manage the affects on us from natural disasters? 00:24:49.14\00:24:53.23 All the things we have mentioned. 00:24:53.24\00:24:54.21 Absolutely, very important, safety first, 00:24:54.22\00:24:57.37 protect yourself. Protect yourself, 00:24:57.38\00:24:59.60 protect the people around you, 00:24:59.61\00:25:01.47 protect your family direct. 00:25:01.48\00:25:04.12 Get, you know, explain to them where you want to meet, 00:25:04.13\00:25:07.45 how you want to in case someone gets lost 00:25:07.46\00:25:10.79 or communication is lost, how are you going to get 00:25:10.80\00:25:13.02 back together? Okay. 00:25:13.03\00:25:14.40 You know, and then connect, 00:25:14.41\00:25:15.76 connect with agencies different, 00:25:15.77\00:25:17.47 you know, Red Cross, FEMA, whatever different agencies 00:25:17.48\00:25:20.75 that are involved with helping your community, 00:25:20.76\00:25:23.25 you know, you connect with them. 00:25:23.26\00:25:24.77 And then important to get into your routine, 00:25:24.78\00:25:28.09 take care of yourself, you know, get plenty of rest, 00:25:28.10\00:25:32.80 get enough exercise, so that you form 00:25:32.81\00:25:35.23 some kind of a routine in your life. Okay. 00:25:35.24\00:25:38.56 Also helping others is very important. 00:25:38.57\00:25:41.63 It gives you a self control. 00:25:41.64\00:25:43.70 So if you can help others who are in the similar situations. 00:25:43.71\00:25:47.19 Absolutely, that will give you some sense of 00:25:47.20\00:25:49.75 control and support. 00:25:49.76\00:25:51.43 And you know, you can't forget prayer, 00:25:51.44\00:25:54.10 that is very, very important. 00:25:54.11\00:25:56.11 Pray that for the safety of yourself and others, 00:25:56.12\00:25:59.75 and pray for strength and courage to deal 00:25:59.76\00:26:02.70 with the issues that you're going through. 00:26:02.71\00:26:04.21 Okay, and then coming to that spiritual again, 00:26:04.22\00:26:08.04 what if you're just having problems 00:26:08.05\00:26:10.66 getting your mind around, 00:26:10.67\00:26:11.99 why God would allow us or what not. 00:26:12.00\00:26:14.18 Have you helped people through that? 00:26:14.19\00:26:16.26 Yes, well, you know, it's natural sometimes for us 00:26:16.27\00:26:20.67 to question God, when we are going through 00:26:20.68\00:26:23.13 difficult situations or when we have lost our loved one 00:26:23.14\00:26:26.97 or we see our loved one dead. 00:26:26.98\00:26:29.75 It is, it is natural sometimes to feel angry 00:26:29.76\00:26:33.54 and feel resentful and hateful. 00:26:33.55\00:26:35.43 Work through that. 00:26:35.44\00:26:36.42 Yes, but you also have to keep in mind 00:26:36.43\00:26:38.85 that our God is greater than any problem 00:26:38.86\00:26:41.99 that you can go through. Amen. 00:26:42.00\00:26:43.80 And He has the reasons, why things happen? 00:26:43.81\00:26:47.68 And when we go to heaven to meet Him, 00:26:47.69\00:26:50.04 we'll get an opportunity to ask Him, 00:26:50.05\00:26:51.89 why this has happen. 00:26:51.90\00:26:53.49 But while you're going through it, 00:26:53.50\00:26:54.99 you need to say that He is in controlled 00:26:55.00\00:26:58.18 and practiced that, also it's important to have faith. 00:26:58.19\00:27:02.44 That God is watching over you through 00:27:02.45\00:27:04.61 what you're going through and even though you've lost 00:27:04.62\00:27:08.06 your property or your loved one, 00:27:08.07\00:27:10.39 that He's in control and He will help you 00:27:10.40\00:27:13.27 and he-- you know, He is in charge, no matter what. 00:27:13.28\00:27:16.48 So keeping that in mind, 00:27:16.49\00:27:18.00 keeping in mind that these worldly things 00:27:18.01\00:27:21.39 and the possessions are not the focus of our mind, 00:27:21.40\00:27:25.93 we have to keep God as the focus 00:27:25.94\00:27:28.54 and then whatever happens, you know, He's in control. 00:27:28.55\00:27:31.91 Amen. And we do our best. 00:27:31.92\00:27:34.51 Thank you so much, Dr. Borge for joining us. 00:27:34.52\00:27:36.89 This has been very helpful and I hope as it, 00:27:36.90\00:27:40.00 it is aired again and again, it will help people 00:27:40.01\00:27:42.28 with the very thing as your heart's desire to help, 00:27:42.29\00:27:45.13 those that are experiencing natural disasters 00:27:45.14\00:27:47.55 knowing that God is there and having you know, 00:27:47.56\00:27:49.76 the specifics to help them. 00:27:49.77\00:27:51.93 Thank you for joining us on "Health for a Lifetime." 00:27:51.94\00:27:54.34 May God bless you today. 00:27:54.35\00:27:56.23