Hello and welcome to
"Health for a Lifetime"
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I'm your host Don Mackintosh
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We're glad that
you've taken time out of your
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busy schedule to be with us,
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and also Dr. MacCarty,
we're glad that you're here.
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We're going to talk
about time management
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as it relates to stress today,
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and I understand that, really,
stress is your specialty...
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As we were talking,
you let me know that
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you are a fellow of
"The Institute of Stress"
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and you also were the
opening speaker for the
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Eleventh Congress on Stress in
Hawaii, I think in the year 2000
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And so we're just glad
that you are bringing your
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bringing your rich
experience to us today.
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Tell me, how is it
that we relate to stress?
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What is a model we can
use to help us understand it?
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I have a seminar I do,
Don, and we talk about the
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"stress tank" - I got
this model out of Australia...
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And "stress tank" - basically
you think of your life as a tank
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and stresses are being poured
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into this tank
every day of our lives,
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and if the tank fills
up to the overflow point,
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various kinds of
harm can happen...
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It can be physical
illness and mental problems,
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accident proneness, etcetera.
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Fortunately, there is a pressure
relief valve on the stress tank
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and the pressure
relief valve can prevent our
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stress tanks from
rising to the overflow point,
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and there are 7 keys keeping
that relief valve opened,
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and there are also
ways we can close the
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pressure relief valve
thinking we are helping things.
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Smoking, alcohol -
gives short-term relief
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can actually close
the pressure relief tank,
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and then there are things we can
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do to create a
larger stress tank.
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In our seminar, we
unpack all those things,
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and there are 7
keys to managing stress.
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Those 7 keys...
Prayer, relaxation, exercise,
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those are the
keys? Those are the keys.
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And time management
is one of those keys,
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and to have the pressure
relief valve fully opened,
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you keep all those 7
keys active in your life.
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They all look very
important but how important
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would you say, if you're
looking just at the component
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of time management -
how important is that?
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Well, I have a stress
pyramid that I have developed,
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and the stress pyramid puts the
7 keys in a hierarchal order...
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And the bottom 4 on that stress
pyramid, they go from the least
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important to the
most important at the top.
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So exercise, healthy
eating, that's foundational.
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Relaxation and then
management/organization,
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that's probably where you have
time management, is that correct
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Time management and organization
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that's where time
management comes in.
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Those are foundational elements,
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and time
management is quite important
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for stress management.
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It's at the bottom at
that pyramid or pretty near it.
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What is the goal of time
management - would you say?
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The goal of time management
is to be able to have the
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things in our lives,
Don, that we feel are
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the MOST important and to
be able to accomplish them.
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We all have things we think
are very important in our lives,
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but there are so many
areas of our lives that are
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pulling at us that we can
get into that time management
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helps us to focus on
THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS,
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and be able to accomplish those.
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Okay, talking about
that... What then would be
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FIRST STEP in time management?
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That's the Determine Your Goals
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Determine your goals - talk
to me about that a little bit.
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How do you do that - how
do you determine your goals?
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I mean, I have so many things
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I want to accomplish...
that sometimes, you know
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...this is going
to be helpful to me,
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and I'm sure it's going to
be helpful to those listening.
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Well, it simply means
writing down your goals,
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and GOAL - to define a goal,
a goal is something that you
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want to achieve -
it's important to you.
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That is desirable for you
and it should be desirable;
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it should be reachable -
something you can accomplish,
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and it should be measurable,
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so you can know
when you've reached it;
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you know when the ball has
got in the hoop so-to-speak.
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And the goals can be...
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Some people think
of time management
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and they often think -
Oh you're talking about
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just the workplace here.
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No... we're talking about
personal goals, family goals,
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occupational goals -
it's life-enriching dreams
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that you want to accomplish.
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And those change,
probably from time-to-time.
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They change from time-to-time.
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Yes they do, you
accomplish goals,
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and others come up to the top.
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So looking a little more closely
at that and defining that,
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what are some of
the practical steps
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we could take in setting
those goals - defining them?
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Well, I've been impressed
by 3 steps that Alan Lakein
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in an excellent book called...
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"How to Gain Control and
Your Life" has suggested,
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and I went
through these in 1990.
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The first step is simply -
List goals you would like to
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accomplish during your lifetime.
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You just take a piece of paper,
and you only allow yourself
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like 5 minutes to do this.
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List ALL the things you'd like
to accomplish in your lifetime.
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You just have this
long list of things,
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then you put it
aside for a while.
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And #2 is - you take another
sheet of paper and you list
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all the things you'd like to
accomplish in the next 3-5 years
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And then you do only
allow yourself just maybe
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5 minutes maximum for that.
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Put it aside and
then your last one is
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if you knew you were going
to die in the next 6 months,
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what would you for sure
NOT want to leave undone?
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That's a powerful question!
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A very powerful
question, and you write all the
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things down you
don't want to leave undone
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if you're going to
die in the next 6 months.
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Then you have
these 3 lists now...
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You put them aside for
a day or so and then you
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come back to them later,
and once you kind of ascertain
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that those are the
things really that -
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"yes, that's what I'd like
to accomplish in my lifetime;
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that's what I'd like to
accomplish in the next 3-5 years
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...that's what I want to be sure
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to not leave undone
in the next 6 months"
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Then you've got at least a set
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of goals you can
start working with.
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I don't suggest, Don, that you
do this out of your own head,
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you do it prayerfully.
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Spiritual people think...
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Well, time management,
it's not spiritual enough,
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but it is - you make it
a prayerful experience...
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And once you get those lists,
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you say - "God is this really
the list that would honor you?"
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These things being
accomplished in my life,
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is this what You want me to do?"
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And you get kind of a sense
of satisfaction... Yes that's
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That's where I need to go,
that's where I'm headed. Yeah
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So like David said - "I want a
temple to be built for the Lord"
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He got it all together,
he didn't execute it, per se,
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but Solomon did
and he had planned it,
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and came as a result of
what God had put in his mind.
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And the thing is, Don,
that came out of his experience
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with God.
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All the wonderful things
he accomplished in his life,
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but the dream that he
had was to build that temple.
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That became his #1 goal;
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toward the end of his
life it became his passion -
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was to be able to get
all those materials together
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for the building of that temple,
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and that came out of
his experience with God.
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Our top priority goals really
do grow out of our relationships
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and especially
for spiritual people,
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their relationship with God.
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So out of your
devotional experience,
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really, this can
happen. It can - it can
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After you've set these
goals, then what do you do next?
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#2 on the list, Don, is
to then prioritize the goals.
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Prioritize them -
you have all these goals,
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and what you have to do is,
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first of all, you take the
goals on your personal list,
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and you just start
writing down if you could ONLY
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accomplish one of them.
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Let's say I have 20
things on my personal list
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of lifetime goals or whatever...
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and I can only
accomplish one of those,
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what would I want to be
sure and have accomplished...
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And if God will say it
- "Okay, I will let you
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accomplish 2 of them"
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What would the second one be?
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And again, you make
this a prayerful experience,
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and you work
right on down to #20
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And then you do the
same thing with family goals,
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with occupational goals
and you'd do the same thing
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for your lifetime
goals, your 3-5 year goals,
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and your next 6 months.
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And have you
done this? Yes I have
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And do you have, like in a
book, with you at all times?
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I carry a sheet of
priorities around with me,
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my top priorities.
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I've got to tell
you... I've known you now
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for quite a few years
and I KNOW this is true
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because ever since I've met you,
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I can remember, I
think it was a big gray book
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when I first met you... Yes
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You had it there and
you made this presentation
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not exactly like this
- you've thought about it
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a lot since then, but you
made that presentation to me,
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and I got to tell
you as well that for ME,
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for the last 10 years now almost
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because of that, I've had a
calendar that has 5 years in it,
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and it really has given,
really, a great peace to me.
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I think it is a
stress-reliever in a sense
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because I know
where I'm going to be...
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You know of course,
God can preempt anything,
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family situations
can preempt anything,
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but it really does - I'll
just add my testimony to it.
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You know, in the aftermath of
the World Trade Towers incident,
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one of the firemen
that lost his life,
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I think it was the chaplain of
the fireman that lost his life
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when he was administering
last rites to one of the other
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firemen there, he
used to make the statement,
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..."That if you
want to make God laugh,
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tell Him what you're
going to do tomorrow"
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That's a good statement!
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And I think
there's something to that,
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and at the end of this
whole goal -setting process,
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then we submit ALL our
plans to God to be carried out
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or given up as His
providence will indicate.
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It doesn't mean the goal-setting
process isn't important.
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It find it VITALLY important.
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It has been so
important to me over my life...
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When I was giving a
presentation on time management
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to a group from around
the country who had come in
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for a family life seminar
and I was doing one of the
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workshops there and
several years later,
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I was doing my stress
management seminar in San Diego,
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and a lady came up
to me in that seminar,
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and she said, "You know, I
was in that 2 or 3 years ago
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when you did that
time management seminar,
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I was in that and ever since
then, it's changed my life.
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So I know these are
very powerful principles,
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so you
determine your priorities.
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Now I remember once, we
were at a retreat together...
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You may not remember this
but this was many years ago,
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and at that particular
retreat, someone shared with me
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the importance of
prayer in this whole process,
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and then you have as well.
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You have a special
prayer that you say...
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I mean one of the prayers
that I say every day is...
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"What is coming
between me and you Lord"
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"What is coming
between me and someone else"
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"What do you want
me to do about that?"
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"What do you want
to replace that with?"
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"And what do you
want me to do right now?"
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It helps me set those
priorities for that day.
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But you have a special
prayer as well that you share...
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That's worked very well for me
and that prayer is simply this -
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"Lord, crowd the bad out
of my life with the good"
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"And then crowd the good
out of my life with the best"
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That's a great prayer.
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It has been so powerful
in my personal walk with God,
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and in my professional life
and in my family life as well...
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Because what happens is,
Don, God gives you more and more
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important and top priorities
and they become passions to you.
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How do you
determine a top priority...
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Well again, it's a
matter of saying...
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If you could only accomplish
ONE thing on your list,
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what would you want it to be?
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And then if you could
accomplish a second one,
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what would you want
it to be, and so forth,
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right on down the list -
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that's how you
determine your top priorities.
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We want to talk a
little bit more about those
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top priorities
when we come back.
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We want to talk about how
it is that you can accomplish
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or once you prioritize
these goals, what do you do?
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And we want to talk
more specifically about that.
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I hope that you can
join us when we come back.
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Have you found
yourself wishing that
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you could shed a few pounds?
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Welcome back, we've been
talking with Dr. Skip MacCarty
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We've been talking
about time management
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as it relates to stress.
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We talked about how
we needed to have goals,
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and we needed to set priorities.
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Anything else you'd
like to say about that?
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Well Don, sometimes we have
- like at my work right now,
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I work with Pastor Dwight Nelson
at the Pioneer Memorial Church
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I'm one of the
associate pastors there.
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I have 20 different
ministries I'm responsible for.
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Well I know I can't give equal
time to all those 20 ministries,
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so I sat down and I
prioritized them from 1 to 20,
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in terms of what I
thought I could contribute
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and in terms of the
ministry of the church,
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and give the most value to the
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ministry of the
church with my time there...
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And then when I got those done,
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I sat down with
Pastor Dwight Nelson,
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and I showed him this
list of 20 and I said,
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"Pastor Dwight, these 4 or 5
at the top are about all I can
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REALLY invest my time in to
make the biggest difference,
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and I think this is
it... What do you think?"
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He looked at it and he
tended to agree with me;
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maybe there was a
little shuffling around
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of those 4 or 5.
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And then I know
when I go out of there,
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because I have not only
my own list of priorities,
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but with my employer
as well, and then I know
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I have the freedom
then to invest my time,
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my major time for the
church in those areas.
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So you don't feel like you're
"Harry Smatter" a little bit
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for every matter -
you're FOCUSED-IN...
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You know exactly what
to do. I can't say that I
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never feel that
way, but at least I know
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I know what's most important
and I've been empowered
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by his choice as well
as my own to go for that.
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So once you've
prioritized some goals,
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what's the next
step, what do you do?
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Okay the next step, Don,
and this is very important,
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and we'll go through several
steps here quite quickly.
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...is to then list
activities that will enable you
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to accomplish those goals. Okay
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And we're going to go
through several slides here
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quite quickly now because
I want to put up some goals
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Just some goals I
just wrote down quickly.
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Landscape the yard by August.
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Complete a project
at work on schedule.
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Vacation next fall in Florida.
Let's move that up a little bit!
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And you notice that each one of
these goals it's very specific
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and it has a time
element to it so you know...
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You can check off when the
time comes - have you done that.
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And this is
personal, occupational,
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and family all together.
Kind of mixed them up here,
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kind of mixed them up, I
just wrote down some goals.
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Okay, the next slide then
will be prioritizing those goals
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and I do it this way primarily-
you notice I have on there -
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"Read Romans this
month," and I may say
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read biography on
Mother Theresa or something.
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This is for a secular
audience, but I don't put them
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as a top goal, but
I want to get it up
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there and get
it relatively high.
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Let's say I just
prioritized my goal here...
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I say... "Oh, I want to complete
that work project on schedule"
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And I want to just
work right down the goal...
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Then what I do is, I
take the top priority,
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completing that
work project on schedule,
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I take a clean sheet of paper,
write that down at the top,
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and I say - "What
are the activities I need
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in order to accomplish that. "
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Well, I just
wrote down 3 here...
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...Get the needed equipment.
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Whenever there is some
equipment I need, get that.
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Make sure that I
have the support personnel
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that I need to
help me with this,
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make sure they're informed,
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and they are committed
to helping me with this.
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And then adjust
my personal schedule,
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so I can actually make
the deadline. All right
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And then I go BACK to
that list again of priorities,
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I pick out #2 and it's going to
be family reunion at Christmas.
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I take a clean
sheet of paper again,
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go back to that clean sheet
of paper and I start writing
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down the things I
need to do to achieve that.
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Plan details with my wife,
gain consensus on meal plans;
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are my wife and I
going to serve all the meals
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or are different
members of the family going to
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take responsibility
for different meals.
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...The sorbet or
the soufflé. Exactly!
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Get the extra
bedding I need and so forth.
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And just basically
work it through that way.
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Now you not only have goals,
you not only have priorities,
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but you have now some
activities to accomplish those
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priorities written down.
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Boy, it kind of
overwhelms me to hear all that,
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but that's the
nitty-gritty isn't it?
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You know, I'll tell
you - The time you invest,
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that may take several hours,
but the time you invest in that
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is going to save you enormous
amounts of time later on,
00:17:08.41\00:17:11.23
and it's going to help you
actually accomplish the things
00:17:11.26\00:17:13.70
that you have
determined, prayerfully,
00:17:13.73\00:17:15.85
are the most important
to you, to your family,
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and to your occupation.
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I want to ask another question,
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but before I do, I'd just
like to share something...
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You know, sometimes
I've done SOME of this,
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and I have a computer program
that will take the things
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I haven't yet accomplished and
put them on to the next day...
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That can get pretty discouraging
after a couple of days,
00:17:32.67\00:17:36.22
but, you know, it does help me
that I know I'm a little behind
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on that and then I'll
take a day and I'll have to
00:17:39.80\00:17:40.92
knock out 10 things! Yeah!
00:17:40.95\00:17:43.70
Right - and you know what?
00:17:43.73\00:17:45.11
The next day you have
complete freedom because if you
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change your mind, you can do
some other things on that day.
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Sometimes I don't even GET
to my schedule for that day,
00:17:49.53\00:17:52.34
but let's move on here
because we're getting to that.
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Once I got my
priorities set and those goals,
00:17:55.23\00:17:57.78
and done what you've said...
these are the activities,
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what next - what do I do?
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Okay, the 4th step, Don,
is when we're forming our
00:18:01.04\00:18:05.39
"to do list" for the
day, we make sure that on that
00:18:05.42\00:18:08.03
"to do list" are
some of those activities
00:18:08.06\00:18:10.23
from our high priority items.
00:18:10.27\00:18:11.58
In order to accomplish
the high priority items,
00:18:11.62\00:18:13.25
we had certain activities
- we want to make sure that
00:18:13.28\00:18:15.59
some of those activities
are on our "to do list"
00:18:15.62\00:18:18.11
every single day - so
it's at least on the list
00:18:18.14\00:18:22.57
And if possible, to make it as
00:18:22.60\00:18:24.35
high priority on the
list as we can so we're
00:18:24.38\00:18:26.55
contributing toward that;
00:18:26.58\00:18:27.66
we're doing something
toward accomplishing those.
00:18:27.69\00:18:30.63
Now, I gotta tell you, Don,
every step along the way here...
00:18:30.66\00:18:33.80
People that start
write down some goals,
00:18:33.83\00:18:36.56
then find it's sometimes
difficult to do prioritization
00:18:36.59\00:18:39.34
because it's not
hard to put down #1 and 2,
00:18:39.37\00:18:42.10
but when you get down to
#8, 9 and 10 on the list,
00:18:42.14\00:18:45.18
and people realize they
may not be getting to those
00:18:45.21\00:18:47.52
for some time if they are
really working #1 and 2...
00:18:47.55\00:18:52.45
really focused on #1 and
2, it's discouraging because
00:18:52.48\00:18:55.30
they think it's too important
not to be working on those...
00:18:55.33\00:18:57.93
And so, some people
bail out at that point.
00:18:57.96\00:19:01.18
They bail out because
they're just overwhelmed.
00:19:01.21\00:19:03.39
Because they want to
treat everything equal...
00:19:03.42\00:19:07.23
which means they're not
going to accomplish near as much
00:19:07.26\00:19:10.66
toward their high priority
items - what really is deepest
00:19:10.69\00:19:13.24
in their heart by
treating everything equal.
00:19:13.27\00:19:15.02
You can't treat everything
equal and get it all done...
00:19:15.05\00:19:16.98
And how do you know when
people ask you to do things,
00:19:17.01\00:19:19.76
how do you know
what to say "yes" to,
00:19:19.79\00:19:20.88
and what to say "no" to?
00:19:20.91\00:19:22.07
When you have top priority goals
00:19:22.10\00:19:23.72
that have been
prayerfully established,
00:19:23.75\00:19:25.08
that empowers you - it
gives you permission to say "no"
00:19:25.11\00:19:28.17
to things that don't
contribute toward those
00:19:28.20\00:19:30.30
if they are really
prayerfully set goals.
00:19:30.33\00:19:32.74
Now we're all going to have to
make discernment during the day;
00:19:32.77\00:19:35.05
sometimes it will be
5 o'clock in the day,
00:19:35.08\00:19:36.80
and I haven't even got to one
00:19:36.83\00:19:37.89
of those high
priority items on my list yet.
00:19:37.92\00:19:39.61
Boy, that sounds
almost like every day for me.
00:19:39.64\00:19:41.44
Well.. and you know
what, the best time management
00:19:41.47\00:19:44.67
experts in the world
acknowledge that much of
00:19:44.70\00:19:47.71
their time, they
don't have control over it.
00:19:47.74\00:19:50.12
The difference between
those people and the people that
00:19:50.15\00:19:52.85
don't accomplish the same
things as much as the experts do
00:19:52.88\00:19:57.30
is the experts keep
coming back, they know...
00:19:57.33\00:19:59.71
They have that built-in sense
that at 5 o'clock in the day
00:19:59.74\00:20:02.94
if they haven't even got to one
of the items on their list yet,
00:20:02.97\00:20:05.38
they still hopefully get to that
00:20:05.41\00:20:07.81
and if they get to the end
of the day, they carry it over.
00:20:07.84\00:20:10.90
That's right, they
carry it over to the next day.
00:20:10.93\00:20:12.61
No guilt - they just
carry it over to the next day
00:20:12.64\00:20:14.34
because it's always on the list
and they're going to get to it.
00:20:14.37\00:20:17.57
They're going to get to
it and they are going to
00:20:17.60\00:20:18.81
accomplish it and
when that gets crossed off,
00:20:18.84\00:20:20.27
another item on accomplishing
another one of those activities
00:20:20.30\00:20:23.27
to accomplish
their high priority goals
00:20:23.30\00:20:24.66
gets moved over to that list...
00:20:24.69\00:20:26.33
And it's just always
there in front of them,
00:20:26.36\00:20:28.25
and they just keep
chipping away at it,
00:20:28.28\00:20:29.76
chipping away at it -
sometimes only a few minutes,
00:20:29.79\00:20:31.63
sometimes they
don't even get to it,
00:20:31.66\00:20:32.76
sometimes they have a
block of several hours in a day
00:20:32.79\00:20:34.66
where they can
work on those things.
00:20:34.69\00:20:36.30
THAT'S what it takes!
00:20:36.33\00:20:38.06
Just dogged determination,
but understanding that
00:20:38.09\00:20:41.36
God is also the God of
the interruption as well.
00:20:41.39\00:20:43.61
That's exactly
right - that's the Lord...
00:20:43.64\00:20:47.60
I lay all my plans at
Your feet to be carried out
00:20:47.63\00:20:51.36
or given up as Your
providence will indicate.
00:20:51.39\00:20:53.74
That's a great prayer... Always
have to be sensitive to that.
00:20:53.77\00:20:57.27
Now the next thing, I
suppose, is just like you said,
00:20:57.30\00:21:00.88
Do it - getting
it done - go for it!
00:21:00.91\00:21:03.39
That's exactly right.
00:21:03.42\00:21:05.00
And that's, that's
again, it's not easy for people
00:21:05.03\00:21:09.28
because when they
get up in the morning,
00:21:09.31\00:21:10.87
there are people calling
them, wanting them to do things,
00:21:10.90\00:21:13.49
there are little
urgencies that come up,
00:21:13.52\00:21:16.24
but they have to have that;
00:21:16.27\00:21:18.55
when they have those
high priority activities
00:21:18.58\00:21:21.33
on their list, what
they want to do is to focus
00:21:21.36\00:21:25.39
on those things and
some time during the day
00:21:25.42\00:21:27.44
they're going to chip
away at those things...
00:21:27.47\00:21:29.54
That's what they're
trying to do and look, Don,
00:21:29.57\00:21:31.60
sometimes you
get blocks of time.
00:21:31.63\00:21:33.27
You're sitting in an airport
and now we're going to have,
00:21:33.30\00:21:35.86
I understand, a little
bit more time at the airports;
00:21:35.89\00:21:39.03
getting checked in and sitting
there waiting for the plane,
00:21:39.06\00:21:42.80
and all those kinds of things...
00:21:42.83\00:21:44.80
so what we do is -
Take advantage of that time!
00:21:44.83\00:21:46.76
Exactly - take advantage
of those times. Cell phone!
00:21:46.79\00:21:52.19
There are block times,
you can block out times too.
00:21:52.22\00:21:55.09
When you don't answer the phone
because you can always make
00:21:55.12\00:21:56.98
call-backs and have the
answering machine take calls,
00:21:57.01\00:22:00.13
and work on some
of these things...
00:22:00.16\00:22:01.94
There are all
kinds of ways to do it,
00:22:01.97\00:22:03.78
but you have to
just keep after it.
00:22:03.81\00:22:05.08
Now I know that your
answering machine does work,
00:22:05.11\00:22:07.09
and that you do
screen calls - I know that
00:22:07.12\00:22:08.87
I've even been
screened out occasionally,
00:22:08.90\00:22:11.02
but yeah, I think
that's a good principle.
00:22:11.05\00:22:14.55
I've got an answering machine
though - that truly picks up
00:22:14.58\00:22:17.62
and I don't know
that it picks up,
00:22:17.65\00:22:19.42
because I don't like that
feeling that people might get
00:22:19.45\00:22:21.67
that - "Hey, he's
listening and he has said,
00:22:21.70\00:22:23.73
I'm not going to
talk to that person"
00:22:23.76\00:22:25.37
So I have this - I don't know
if that ever came up with you,
00:22:25.40\00:22:27.70
but it's true - the phone
when it rings is not always
00:22:27.73\00:22:31.91
a top priority.
00:22:31.94\00:22:33.69
Okay, so the next
thing after "doing it"
00:22:33.72\00:22:37.39
in your seminar you talk
about a story that I thought was
00:22:37.42\00:22:39.62
really good about a
$25,000 system of management
00:22:39.65\00:22:43.11
Tell me a little
bit about that...
00:22:43.14\00:22:44.33
Well this is a story
of Charles Schwab... Don
00:22:44.36\00:22:47.41
He was the chairman
of "Bethlehem Steel"
00:22:47.44\00:22:49.78
He owned Bethlehem Steel and
he hit a plateau in his business
00:22:49.81\00:22:55.59
Bethlehem Steel just
wasn't going anywhere.
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And this is a picture of him
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He didn't know
what to do with it...
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Well it's a picture
we use in our seminar...
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a cute little
graphic there. All right
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And so he called in a time
management expert - Ivy Lee
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And Ivy Lee followed
him around for several days,
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and then gave him a
list of 3 things to do
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at the end of
that period of time.
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And Charles Schwab looked
at it, it looked simple enough,
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he said, "Okay,
what do I owe you?"
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And Ivy Lee said, "I
tell you what you do,
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you try these things
for the next few months,
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and then send me what
you think it was worth. "
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And at the end of that
time, this was many years ago,
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when $25,000 was real money,
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and Ivy Lee got a
check for $25,000.
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Is that right?
Yeah... I tell you what,
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$25,000 is not
really real money...
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Now, I'd take $25,000 from you
if you had it! I understand...
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So $25,000- he said
that was so helpful...
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For just doing
those 3 things every day.
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And so this individual
helped him prioritize,
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and get things going and
that was just worth all the...
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What that list of 3 things
was - Okay, what were they?
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#1- Before you go to bed
at night, make a list of the
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6 most important things
you have to do the next day.
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So, before you go to
bed... is that important?
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No, it's not - it's not,
I do mine in the morning.
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Okay... Every morning and I
do it during my prayer time.
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I actually
formulate my "to do list"
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during my prayer
time, and I carry stuff over
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from the day before and
make it a matter of prayer...
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But Ivy Lee suggested - you
do this before you go to bed
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And then #2- when you
get up in the morning,
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you start working on #1 and
you work on it until it's done.
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You prioritize
that list of 6 things.
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Sounds like something my
wife has told me before...
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Then you work on it
until it's done... All right
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And then when
you're done with #1,
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you start working on #2
and work on it until it's done,
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and work your way
through list like that -
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all the way
through the list that way,
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and do that every
single day, he said,
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and it will
change your business.
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Well, Charles
Schwab found it did.
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It did what it
needed to do for him,
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and it was worth
that much money to him,
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a very valuable thing for him.
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Now I find, Don, that
life doesn't work that way.
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I don't get started on #1
and work on it until it's done.
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But I try every day to
have my list of things to do,
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and I try to prioritize.
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The most important things
on that list are at the top,
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and I want to try to
get to that as fast as I can
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get to that and start
working down that list
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to get the most
important things done.
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And you do that
every single day,
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and I find that is
the absolute key in this.
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All right, so that's
worth $25,000 to Charles Schwab
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but to you and I as well
because we can get that done.
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You know, one of the
things I was reading about
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one of these early religious
communities in America that
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spawned so much of
our current industry,
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and they did say that if you
could make the list at night,
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their whole philosophy -
I just read this recently,
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was that your mind could be
thinking about it all night,
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even while you're
asleep, so when you get up
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you're ready to do #1.
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Well, and I believe
Stephen Covey also recommends
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that in his book,
"First Things First"
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an excellent book on
time management as well.
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Well is there anything
else, we are talking about
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time management - we
have only 1 minute left,
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so we have to be
careful with our time,
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but is there anything
else you'd like to add?
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Don, I think if there was
one single phrase that a person
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kept in mind
constantly, it would be -
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Remember that the main
thing is the main thing
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to keep the main thing!
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Okay, the main thing is to keep
the main thing the main thing!
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There you go. All right
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Well I think I can remember
that - to keep the main thing
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the main thing...
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And bathe the process in
prayer, ask God to guide you -
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Remember that text -
"This is the way, walk ye in it"
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He can guide and
He can let us know.
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We've been talking
with Dr. Skip MacCarty
00:26:57.32\00:26:59.71
We've been talking
about how to cope with STRESS.
00:26:59.74\00:27:02.41
We've been talking
about time management
00:27:02.44\00:27:05.11
as it relates to that
and I understand your seminar
00:27:05.14\00:27:07.10
is available - "Stress
Beyond Coping" - Yes it is
00:27:07.13\00:27:09.74
and we can get a hold of that.
00:27:09.77\00:27:11.00
Through the Health
Connection which is a subsidiary
00:27:11.03\00:27:13.89
at the "Review and Herald"
and they can call the 3ABN,
00:27:13.92\00:27:15.91
I believe, and they'll
have the phone number where
00:27:15.94\00:27:17.25
they can get that seminar;
00:27:17.28\00:27:18.39
it's on videotape as well now.
00:27:18.42\00:27:20.21
So, yeah, you can get a
copy of today's presentation,
00:27:20.24\00:27:23.14
what we've covered here today,
00:27:23.17\00:27:24.35
it can help you
in prioritizing time.
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I've got to tell
you, myself, personally
00:27:26.50\00:27:28.28
that over the last 10
years, many of these concepts
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have been put in place in
my life as a result, really, of
00:27:32.92\00:27:36.69
Dr. MacCarty's material
as we worked together before.
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And once you do these things,
you'll get a sense that really
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your stress will diminish
as you know where you're
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supposed to be and
what you are to be doing -
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Of course there are
interruptions - we know that,
00:27:48.43\00:27:50.22
but keep the main
thing, the main thing,
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that's the MAIN THING.
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We're glad
you've joined us today.
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We're glad that
you can, as a result,
00:27:54.92\00:27:57.35
have Health that
Lasts for a Lifetime!
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