Hello and welcome to
"Health for a Lifetime"
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We're glad that you're with
us and Dr. Allan Handysides,
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we're glad that
you're with us as well today.
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Thank you very much.
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Now your role is with the
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"General Conference of
Seventh-day Adventists"
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You are a physician
that works for them,
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and it's no longer
Health and Temperance,
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it's "Health Ministries
Department" - That's correct
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And you have kind of
a global perspective,
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and you look at the
major killers around the globe,
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not just maybe in one country,
but you're kind of in charge
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of different departments that
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look around the
world. That's right
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Now here in America, it's my
understanding that one of the
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major killers is heart disease.
You're right, it's serious
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But what about in terms
of a global health issue,
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is it an
important issue globally?
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It's probably not as much of
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a global issue in some
of the developing countries,
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but you must remember
countries like those in Europe,
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and certain parts of
the Far East are becoming
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very sophisticated societies,
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and heart disease is becoming an
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increasing problem in those
societies... Like Singapore
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Like Singapore and
Korea, for instance is becoming
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much more sophisticated.
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Big cities in China?
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I don't think the Chinese
are probably quite into the
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high-fat intake
that we are as yet,
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but they are
moving in that direction.
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So why is heart health
such an important issue?
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When you look at the
whole body you've got...
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your liver, you've got your
knees, you've got your nose,
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you've got your heart...
why is the heart so important?
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I mean, that may be
begging the question, but why...
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Because you're leading me on!
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Why is that so important to you?
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If we cut off your nose,
you wouldn't look so good,
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but you'd still
carry on. That's right
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If we cut out your
heart, you'd stop dead. Right
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Now the thing is that there are
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half a million deaths a
year in the United States
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secondary to heart disease.
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It's estimated that
there will be about 70% of the
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male population
will have heart disease.
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...70%, that will be
one of the causes that
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leads to their
demise. That's right
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And women - it's a little
less, maybe down to 50-55%
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women will have heart disease.
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That doesn't mean that
they don't have heart disease,
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but they don't have
symptoms of heart disease,
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and they don't show
that they have heart disease.
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Now, when you talk
about heart disease,
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when you're talking
about heart disease,
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I think about
different things...
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I think about, you
know, an enlarged heart,
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or as some people call
that, congestive heart failure.
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I think about a heart attack.
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I think about a
problem with one of the valves.
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What do you mean
when you say that?
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Well when I say that,
I'm really talking about
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arteriosclerotic heart disease.
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So we're talking a vascular
problem feeding the heart.
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Now this separates
it from the children
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born with
congenital heart disease.
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It separates off those
with a quiet heart disease
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such as rheumatic fever.
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And I'm not really
talking about people who have
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an infected heart problem like
some of the myocardiopathies,
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nor things like
subacute bacterial endocarditis
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which proportionate to
the rest of heart disease,
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are a very small proportion.
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So, infections in the
heart, that kind of stuff.
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Yes they occur, but
they are somewhat exotic.
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Now your training is
with women's health issues,
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and also with pediatrics,
but speaking of pediatrics
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or children, is it a big problem
with children - heart disease?
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Well, heart
disease, the congenital
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heart disease, is a big problem.
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I remember when I worked at "The
Hospital for Sick Children,"
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any one day, we could
count maybe 65 children
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in the hospital with a
congenital abnormality.
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And they would
do, perhaps every day,
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25-30 cardiac catheterizations
to diagnose what the problem was
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...but very seldom, did we see
arteriosclerotic heart disease.
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Although our pathologist told
us that when they did autopsies
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on children, they could see
in the children arteriosclerotic
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changes in children as
young as a year of age -
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already beginning
to see change there.
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And what was that
coming from - did they think?
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What did they find in there?
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We felt that that was probably
related to the fat content,
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the high-fat content
in even infant formulas -
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the diets that children were
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receiving that
weren't being breastfed.
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Well let's talk about
that fat intake... what's that?
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What's the relationship
between fat and heart disease?
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Can I beg to just
go back a little bit
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and to talk about
heart disease... Sure
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Perhaps the underlying
lesion in heart disease
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is what we call "plaque"
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Underneath the intima or
the lining of the blood vessel,
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...here's the blood
vessel, underneath the lining -
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the little tiny one
cell skin of the lining,
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there is an
accumulation of material.
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Now we've tended to
think that's just fat...
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Well that's just
erroneous, it's not just fat.
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Probably there's a damage,
first of all, an intimal damage
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takes place -
damage to that lining.
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That may be because of oxidized
low density lipoproteins,
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a form of cholesterol.
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It may be because of bacteria.
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There's even an association
between dental health,
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and heart disease.
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So it may be bacteria
similar to those that are
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around our teeth
and gums in gingivitis.
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So whatever the trigger is,
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it sets up an
inflammatory process...
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and that inflammatory process
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calls in tissue-
white blood cells;
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macrophages, platelets,
clot onto this damaged area,
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fibrin- which is a proteinaceous
material, is released in there,
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and so we get a buildup
of these various substances -
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it's not just pure fat
sitting on the blood vessels.
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So damage to that inner
layer and whatever that damage
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comes from, could be different
factors, you're saying,
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it causes these other blood clot
type things to come to the area.
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Well, what it does
is it gradually expands,
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and closes down the
space within the vessel.
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Now, if you take 1/2
inch pipe, in plumbing,
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and you compare it to a
1 inch pipe in plumbing,
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you'd say, "Well,
I'm getting half the flow
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through the 1/2 inch pipe than
I'd get through the 1 inch. "
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That's not correct!
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The flow is not just hard when
you go from 1 inch to 1/2 inch,
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it's to a factor of about 16
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for same pressure
and things like that.
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So in other words, this
narrowing of the blood vessels
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particularly in
our heart vessels,
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is very, very
significant and very important.
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Sort of like a garden
hose when you squeeze it...
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REALLY has a lot of
change on those vessels.
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Well what about the fat
thing, let's come back to that.
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How does fat relate
to heart disease then?
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Well the fats that are
carried around in our body,
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fats are very important to them
and we can't live without fats..
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More important to some people
than others... Definitely!
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But the balance of the fats have
a very important role to play
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in heart health.
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Remember I said that
one of the triggers is the
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oxidized low density
lipoproteins - the LDL
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Now, if you have an
elevated level of LDL,
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then you're going to find
that there is more chance of it
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than being oxidized
and, of course, that is where
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antioxidants come in
and protect against that,
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and they will then be deposited
part of that motley crew of
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substances in that plaque.
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And that's the thing
that messes up the intima,
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the little, inner layer... That
is what will mess up the intima.
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High density
lipoproteins, on the other hand,
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they are important for
removing oxidized low density
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lipoproteins from the clot.
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So if we have higher levels
of high density lipoprotein,
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we get a better balance...
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And of course, the total
cholesterol has a bearing
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on all of these factors.
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Now where do these come from?
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They come from
the fats that we eat.
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So if we, as the
average American,
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is eating 40% of
our calories from fat,
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we're taking far too
much for our body's needs;
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far too much for our
body to be able to cope with,
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and so we throw
these fats in our blood -
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we throw them into imbalance.
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Now the saturated fats,
which come from animal sources,
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are by far and away, the
most dangerous of the fats.
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And we would like to
see saturated fats reduced,
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reduced, reduced, reduced,
reduced, brought right down low.
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There are some other
fats that are good for us,
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although nothing is absolutely
black and white in this area,
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but they are better
for us, so we should have
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proportionately more and
those are the unsaturated fats,
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and particularly the
monounsaturated fatty acids
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which we call "MUFAs"
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So what would be some
examples of the MUFAs?
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Well, the MUFAs - if you
read in the common literature,
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they'll talk about fish oils.
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They'll be talking about fish
oils as being a "good source"
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of MUFAs... Flaxseed though
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Ah ha, but you see,
when you take something
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that may be polluted...
look at the mercury levels
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in the sea or in the
dioxins and so forth,
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then you're
running into problems
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of these other contaminants.
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Whereas if you take the
MUFAs, say - in flaxseed,
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then you're going to be
able to take a higher level
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of monounsaturated fatty acids
WITHOUT the collateral problems
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that come along with some
of those other contaminants.
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But if you just say
"no fat," you may cut out
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the omega-3s and that
could be damaged to what?
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That's right... nobody,
today, is saying "no fat"
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You know, I don't think anybody
who is current is saying- no fat
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We all know - we don't want the
cholesterols to go to nothing
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because cholesterols are
important for brain function,
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neuro function and so forth.
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In fact, there have been
some studies that were done on
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excessively low cholesterol
levels being associated with
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depression,
psychiatric disorders,
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even increased suicide
rates have been correlated
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with very low
cholesterol levels.
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So what we try to aim
for is the healthiest levels,
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and they've just
revised the cholesterol levels.
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What are they
now... what should they be?
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Okay, they've left the total
cholesterol level 200 mg/100 ml
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that stayed the same;
although there has been some
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thought that maybe
they should lower that,
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but they've left that the same.
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But they have raised the level
of high density lipoproteins;
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they now say -
instead of 35 being the low,
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they'd like to see... in
other words, you should be
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above 40 with your
high density lipoproteins.
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And then for your
low density lipoproteins,
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they would like
those a little lower...
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And so, they
now look at a level,
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once you start getting above 65,
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they say that's
not a good level.
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They are adjusting now,
these levels at a national level
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or international
level and they are saying...
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They are saying, "Let's be more
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stringent on our
cholesterol control.
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When should we start checking
our cholesterol, and how often?
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I mean, you are a pediatrician,
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should children
have cholesterol checks?
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I think we should
start at maybe about age 20.
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The reason I would
recommend that is that it's a
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national
recommendation, but also because
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you will pickup those
people who have familial
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inherited problems
with fat regulation,
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and those people need to
be very, very careful about
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their diet and their lifestyle,
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and they may even need to go on
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cholesterol-lowering
medications because they have an
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abnormal high enzyme problem.
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Even if it is
familial, in other words...
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let's say you had someone that
is not eating high fat foods,
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not eating high
cholesterol foods,
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but they still
have a high cholesterol.
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They are in real danger.
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Yes, so they have
a metabolic disorder.
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If you were to
compare them to the diabetics,
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we'd say they are
like the type 1 diabetics.
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They are genetically in trouble.
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Then there is the vast
majority of us who run into
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cholesterol troubles
because we are like the
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type 2 diabetics - we're out
of whack with our lifestyle...
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But that group, they will
be benefiting by having their
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cholesterols
measured when they are early,
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and then maybe every 5 years
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thereafter we should have
this profile to keep an idea
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as to where we are going
with our cholesterols and fats.
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So we need to
know our numbers...
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We need to know our numbers,
arithmetic - basic stuff.
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Know where they are.
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Okay, other important
aspects of heart health...
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We talked about cholesterol;
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we've talked about
the vascular narrowing...
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We can't leave it
without talking about smoking.
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Smoking! Okay...
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No way that we can leave
without talking about smoking.
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Smoking is one of those
factors that damages the intima.
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So it is an initiating factor
in setting up the process.
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So how does that work? You
smoke, it goes into your...
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The nicotine goes in the
neck, causes vasoconstriction,
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maybe hypoxic
damage - we don't know,
00:14:13.95\00:14:15.89
maybe direct chemical damage
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from some of the
contents of the smoking...
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And here you've got the
beginning... the seed is sewn
00:14:19.64\00:14:23.21
for
arteriosclerotic heart disease.
00:14:23.24\00:14:25.98
Someone told me
once that in that layer -
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and I'm just checking
with you to see if that's true,
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there is a substance that is
released right in that layer,
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inner layer, that
sort of like nitroglycerin.
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It's sort of like that
and it can help it relax,
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but when you
smoke, that disrupts that.
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Am I correct on
that? That's right
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It interferes with
the vasoactive components
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in the vessel
and it causes spasm,
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and in and of
itself, narrows the vessel.
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I had a colleague
- he was a physician,
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should have known far better.
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He got chest pain;
he sat down and he said,
00:14:57.56\00:14:59.98
"I think I'll have a
cigarette, I don't feel good"
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Took the cigarette and he
was found dead in the office.
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Is that right?
The cigarette probably
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was the straw that
broke the camel's back
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in his particular situation.
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What would be
the most dangerous?
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And I hate to put you on
record of saying what this is
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and maybe you don't
want to be on record...
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But let's say you had
to choose between that very
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high fat diet and
cigarette smoking,
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which is the most
dangerous of those two?
00:15:22.61\00:15:24.45
Oh, that's like saying...
Which would you rather be
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run over by a Mack
truck or be run over by...
00:15:27.08\00:15:30.19
you know - a train or something.
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They are both bad -
they are very, very bad.
00:15:31.85\00:15:34.85
Now one thing -
another factor is exercise.
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And in our lifestyle, we
love to talk about foods,
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but exercise - we
talk about it a little bit,
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we don't like to do it.
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You know to get that
sweat there and to work it up,
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and 20 minutes a day of, you
know, come out in a light sweat,
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and you sort of feel
hot for the next hour...
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We don't like
that kind of feeling.
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We don't want to
be uncomfortable.
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And yet, statics
show that a fit smoker,
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as far as health
risk is concerned,
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is no worse off
than an unfit nonsmoker.
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A fit smoker is no worse
off than an unfit nonsmoker.
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You've heard it right here.
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That's kind of bad
news maybe for some of us.
00:16:23.45\00:16:25.71
We're talking to
Dr. Allan Handysides
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Join us when we come back
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Welcome back, we've
been talking about your heart
00:17:39.61\00:17:40.84
and health, and we've
been talking about the fact
00:17:40.87\00:17:43.22
that there are a lot of things
we can do to avoid heart disease
00:17:43.25\00:17:45.87
...one of America's #1 killers
and a global concern as well.
00:17:45.90\00:17:49.76
When we left, we were
talking about exercise,
00:17:49.79\00:17:52.40
and you were telling me
that a smoker who is fit
00:17:52.43\00:17:54.95
is no better off
really, than the person that's
00:17:54.98\00:18:00.37
NOT fit who doesn't smoke.
00:18:00.40\00:18:02.30
They are about the
same and you were telling me
00:18:02.33\00:18:04.37
it's a
one-pack-a-day type smoker.
00:18:04.40\00:18:05.92
That's on a one-pack-a-day, yes.
00:18:05.95\00:18:08.01
A person who
smokes one-pack-a-day,
00:18:08.04\00:18:10.04
but is an athlete and is
fit is no worse off than the
00:18:10.07\00:18:14.48
nonsmoker who is a couch potato.
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So we do need to be exercising,
that's what you're telling us
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that for - to underline that.
Yes, that's what we're saying.
00:18:18.94\00:18:21.13
And when we say
"exercise," does this have to be
00:18:21.16\00:18:23.02
aerobic exercise...
or does anything help?
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Well, I suppose
anything is better than nothing,
00:18:27.92\00:18:32.71
but there are some things
that are better than others.
00:18:32.74\00:18:34.98
Walking for most
people is probably the easiest
00:18:35.01\00:18:40.76
and simplest way of
achieving heart health.
00:18:40.79\00:18:45.14
Now you need to walk probably
briskly for about 20 minutes,
00:18:45.17\00:18:49.56
but people must not go out
- anybody listening to this
00:18:49.59\00:18:51.86
program must not go out and
walk briskly for 20 minutes.
00:18:51.89\00:18:54.67
They need to know where they
are at before they try that.
00:18:54.70\00:18:59.61
But they need to be able
to, in graduated exercise,
00:18:59.64\00:19:03.18
get to the point that they
can walk 20 minutes briskly,
00:19:03.21\00:19:07.81
and breaking a light sweat
and that would give definite
00:19:07.84\00:19:14.70
and proven benefits.
00:19:14.73\00:19:16.23
Now if you're out there
walking briskly or whatever,
00:19:16.26\00:19:19.53
and you've been cleared
by your doctor or lightly
00:19:19.56\00:19:21.75
and what are the
symptoms of heart disease,
00:19:21.78\00:19:25.02
maybe not just for walking
but other symptoms as well?
00:19:25.05\00:19:27.57
What are warning signals
that you better go in and get
00:19:27.60\00:19:29.40
checked out by your physician?
00:19:29.43\00:19:30.74
Interestingly, they
are different between
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males and females.
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We've traditionally taught,
both physicians and the public
00:19:33.75\00:19:39.90
that the crushing pain in the
chest - you know the elephant
00:19:39.93\00:19:42.74
foot just on there -
that tightness that comes on
00:19:42.77\00:19:46.24
with exercise or with
exertion, anger or stress -
00:19:46.27\00:19:52.49
that could be a sign
of cardiac disease...
00:19:52.52\00:19:55.71
And in the male,
he may develop angina,
00:19:55.74\00:19:59.43
and angina is symptoms
of the pain that may be
00:19:59.46\00:20:06.13
is associated
with a heart attack,
00:20:06.16\00:20:07.33
but it disappears when
the activity is stopped,
00:20:07.36\00:20:11.52
and it repeats - the pattern
repeats itself - that's angina.
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Angina doesn't last for
just a couple of seconds.
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Angina isn't
something that you can induce by
00:20:21.28\00:20:24.09
pressing on your chest.
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A lot of people have
tenderness on the chest...
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They think that
that's heart pain.
00:20:27.89\00:20:29.55
That's not heart pain -
that's connective tissue,
00:20:29.58\00:20:32.68
muscle, joint -
something like that.
00:20:32.71\00:20:35.16
The difference with
women is that women will often
00:20:35.19\00:20:39.28
have associated
nausea, or fatigue and the pain
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often goes up into
the neck and into the jaw.
00:20:46.10\00:20:49.48
So they may be getting
a jaw pain or a neck pain,
00:20:49.51\00:20:53.34
referred pain and
not recognize it...
00:20:53.37\00:20:55.77
And for many years,
doctors misdiagnosed women
00:20:55.80\00:20:59.06
because they were looking for
00:20:59.09\00:21:00.98
something other
than heart disease.
00:21:01.01\00:21:03.28
We also thought
that women were protected
00:21:03.31\00:21:05.49
against heart
disease, but now we know
00:21:05.52\00:21:07.54
within 7 years of the menopause,
women are just as likely
00:21:07.57\00:21:11.63
as men to have
cardiovascular problems.
00:21:11.66\00:21:14.33
So we have to keep
aware of the symptoms are
00:21:14.36\00:21:17.21
different for men and women.
00:21:17.24\00:21:18.90
What is the
youngest person you've seen
00:21:18.93\00:21:20.54
that has had a heart attack?
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I saw a 14-year-old boy die of a
classical myocardial infarction
00:21:21.74\00:21:26.33
at "The Hospital
for Sick Children"
00:21:26.36\00:21:27.88
Now, he was a diabetic which
brings us to another factor,
00:21:27.91\00:21:32.20
but he was a
diabetic and he died.
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And at autopsy, his vessels
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looked like those
of a 75-year-old man.
00:21:36.37\00:21:38.56
The diabetes
maybe just accelerated
00:21:38.59\00:21:41.47
the problems with his vessels.
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Well, the diabetes definitely
accelerates the problem.
00:21:43.42\00:21:46.10
The diabetes
causes atherosclerosis;
00:21:46.13\00:21:49.62
it causes small vessel disease,
00:21:49.65\00:21:52.03
and it interferes
with fat metabolism,
00:21:52.06\00:21:55.25
and, of course, insulin
resistance is very present
00:21:55.28\00:21:59.10
in a lot of diabetics.
00:21:59.13\00:22:00.40
So, the youngest I
ever saw when I was working
00:22:00.43\00:22:03.30
in the emergency department,
we'd see a lot of people
00:22:03.33\00:22:05.33
come in and we'd
have 5 or 6 heart attacks
00:22:05.36\00:22:07.49
at a time in the
morning, in the hospital there,
00:22:07.52\00:22:10.33
was a 17-year-old
that had none of this;
00:22:10.36\00:22:14.65
not a diabetic or anything.
00:22:14.68\00:22:15.86
So I don't know -
the reason I asked
00:22:15.89\00:22:17.25
the question was to
see if I was right which
00:22:17.28\00:22:19.22
I was going to say - "Look
this is something we need to
00:22:19.25\00:22:21.53
think about a lot younger. "
00:22:21.56\00:22:22.87
But those are the exceptions,
but we do need to think of it.
00:22:22.90\00:22:26.21
In fact, what we need to
do is, we need as a people
00:22:26.24\00:22:28.98
here in North America to
think about our lifestyle.
00:22:29.01\00:22:32.31
We need to say -
When are we going to
00:22:32.34\00:22:36.03
take care of ourselves.
00:22:36.06\00:22:37.66
Stop being couch potatoes,
reduce that fat content.
00:22:37.69\00:22:40.87
Watch out for the smoking.
00:22:40.90\00:22:42.36
When are we going to sort
of protect our young people
00:22:42.39\00:22:46.10
against these evils
that are health hazards.
00:22:46.13\00:22:51.01
So those are
really things that you're
00:22:51.04\00:22:52.23
clicking out there that we can
00:22:52.26\00:22:53.29
do to PREVENT heart
disease. That's right!
00:22:53.32\00:22:55.44
Get them out there working,
not being couch potatoes.
00:22:55.47\00:22:58.81
I know there is
an exercise program,
00:22:58.84\00:23:00.53
have them eating the
right kind of food so they don't
00:23:00.56\00:23:02.97
like that fat taste
and just subsist on that,
00:23:03.00\00:23:05.55
and what else to prevent...
00:23:05.58\00:23:07.11
Well the other thing, of
course, is the positive benefits
00:23:07.14\00:23:09.54
that come from all
these antioxidants.
00:23:09.57\00:23:11.52
If you're going to talk
about foods that are protective
00:23:11.55\00:23:14.24
antioxidant foods, you
have to think about the rainbow.
00:23:14.27\00:23:17.70
We just had a
thunderstorm going on outside
00:23:17.73\00:23:20.67
which I hope that they haven't
heard on the program here...
00:23:20.70\00:23:25.65
But the colors of the rainbow,
00:23:25.68\00:23:28.24
if you look for the colors
of the rainbow in your diet,
00:23:28.27\00:23:30.91
you KNOW you're
getting the right foods...
00:23:30.94\00:23:32.39
those beautiful REDS, and
those lovely GREENS and...
00:23:32.42\00:23:36.97
This isn't red
Jell-O, green Jell-O...
00:23:37.00\00:23:38.78
No, this isn't
artificial flavoring,
00:23:38.81\00:23:40.19
this is the red tomato,
this is the red berries,
00:23:40.22\00:23:43.22
the deep plums - the fruits
00:23:43.25\00:23:46.13
and the vegetables
that are rich like that...
00:23:46.16\00:23:48.41
And when we take these
multiple colors in our diet,
00:23:48.44\00:23:53.12
and that's an easy way -
00:23:53.15\00:23:54.43
Anybody, you don't have to be a
00:23:54.46\00:23:55.91
dietitian to put
color in your diet.
00:23:55.94\00:23:58.13
You know, those nice sweet
potatoes with the orange hues.
00:23:58.16\00:24:02.76
All those things are
really healthy for your heart.
00:24:02.79\00:24:04.54
Very healthy - good antioxidants
00:24:04.57\00:24:06.21
Remember I said - "the oxidized
low density lipoprotein"
00:24:06.24\00:24:10.39
Okay, antioxidants are
going to protect better.
00:24:10.42\00:24:12.37
It's a WONDERFUL net - this
health business makes me just
00:24:12.40\00:24:17.96
over and over again -
say, "what a wonderful Creator
00:24:17.99\00:24:22.32
when He created us"
00:24:22.35\00:24:24.58
He gave us the right
kind of food to protect us.
00:24:24.61\00:24:26.20
He gave us the
right kind of food;
00:24:26.23\00:24:27.89
He gave us the right system!
00:24:27.92\00:24:29.47
You know, He created
the metabolism in such a way
00:24:29.50\00:24:32.28
that He could truly say
when He created Adam and Eve,
00:24:32.31\00:24:35.42
they are not only
good... VERY GOOD! Yeah!
00:24:35.45\00:24:39.50
Now, what if you've
had a heart attack...
00:24:39.53\00:24:40.69
I mean, we're talking
about preventing, avoiding...
00:24:40.72\00:24:43.18
If you've had a heart
attack, is there any hope that
00:24:43.21\00:24:44.89
you could give someone
that has had a heart attack?
00:24:44.92\00:24:46.76
Of course! People
live for YEARS after
00:24:46.79\00:24:49.88
a heart attack.
00:24:49.91\00:24:51.07
Of course - that's if
they take heed of the warning!
00:24:51.10\00:24:54.04
They say - "My goodness,
I've had this heart attack,
00:24:54.07\00:24:56.12
I'd better mend my ways. "
00:24:56.15\00:24:57.80
And they go through the same
things that we've talked about.
00:24:57.83\00:25:00.88
Although they now need to do
it under medical supervision.
00:25:00.91\00:25:04.08
The exercise needs
to be very graduated.
00:25:04.11\00:25:06.15
But in this area, a
very interesting study...
00:25:06.18\00:25:09.19
showed that men who
had had heart attacks
00:25:09.22\00:25:11.97
who did not have social support,
00:25:12.00\00:25:14.89
they didn't have
a wife and a family.
00:25:14.92\00:25:16.60
They were lonely people.
00:25:16.63\00:25:19.67
Those people died
at 40-50% higher rates
00:25:19.70\00:25:25.23
than the people who
had the social support.
00:25:25.26\00:25:27.75
Now there is something that we
00:25:27.78\00:25:28.88
can do to help people
who have had a heart attack.
00:25:28.91\00:25:31.16
We can go and visit them.
00:25:31.19\00:25:32.62
We can show
them that we do care.
00:25:32.65\00:25:35.27
And by the spirit of community,
the spirit of social support,
00:25:35.30\00:25:39.90
we can impact on
the people's lives.
00:25:39.93\00:25:42.22
So there's a role
for a church group;
00:25:42.25\00:25:44.31
there's a role
for a civic group;
00:25:44.34\00:25:47.10
there's a role for
getting people involved,
00:25:47.13\00:25:50.36
and this can
really save their life.
00:25:50.39\00:25:51.77
This save their life...
just the fact that they belong,
00:25:51.80\00:25:55.96
the effect of
connectedness is very important.
00:25:55.99\00:25:59.26
Any other advantage you'd like
00:25:59.29\00:26:02.49
to share in the
last 2 minutes we have?
00:26:02.52\00:26:04.09
Okay, well you know, people
are very interested in advances.
00:26:04.12\00:26:08.46
Nowadays, they are talking about
threading tiny little probes
00:26:08.49\00:26:13.40
into the cardiac vessels
and maybe put a stent in there,
00:26:13.43\00:26:18.93
or they blow up a balloon
and they crush the plaque down,
00:26:18.96\00:26:21.88
or they are even talking about
lasers to vaporize the plaque.
00:26:21.91\00:26:25.49
And, what do they call
these, you know, microwaves -
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they are experimenting
with all these kind of things.
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And it sounds very wonderful
and I think it's VERY exciting
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as long as it's your heart that
is being catheterized not mine!
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And, I mean, I feel great if I'm
an interventional radiologist,
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but really, the thing
is - Wouldn't it be better
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NEVER to need all
these wonderful advances?
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So the greatest
advance would be to
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not have to have
the greatest advance.
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THAT'S THE GREATEST ADVANCE! YES
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And I think we could do that!
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With this program
that you have here,
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I congratulate
you on this program...
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of constantly repeating
and educating the public
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as to ways and means that
they can impact their own lives
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to the glory of God and
to the enjoyment of life.
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So it's true or
false - it can be reversed.
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You can have a plaque that
then diminishes over time...
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Yes, you can reverse it -
not in everybody, not everyone.
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I would think that probably
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you can also
dilate the blood vessels.
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You can restore some of
the elasticity to the vessels.
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But overall, you can definitely
improve the situation.
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And in some cases, the plaque
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has been
demonstrated to be removed.
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That's good
news! Real good news!
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We've been talking
with Dr. Allan Handysides
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He has given us not only
a picture of heart disease
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in America but globally and
he has shared some good news.
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There are some things
that we can do to prevent,
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reverse or better
yet, AVOID heart disease.
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We can exercise
and we can eat right.
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We can trust in God and
have a social support system.
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We hope this has been helpful.
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