Hello, and welcome to
Health For A Lifetime.
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I'm your host Don McIntosh
and today we're glad to have
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Dr. Alan Handysides with
us from the General Conference
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of Seventh Day
Adventists. Welcome doctor!
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Thank you very much!
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You know I'm delighted
that you are with us and
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could take the time here
with Health For A Lifetime
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because you have
such a global perspective.
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One of the things that
we talk a lot about here
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on Health For A Lifetime,
I've interviewed may guests
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done over 100 or so
programs at this point
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and many of the times
that we talk about nutrition,
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we talk about it from
this narrow view of America or
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Western Europe or
the developed countries.
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But you see things from a much
larger perspective and today
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we want to look at it
from that global perspective.
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Is nutrition an
important aspect of world health
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and what do you see it
from your bird's eye view there?
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Well, when you consider that
there are millions of children
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that go to bed every
night with empty tummies
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who are hungry and perhaps
complaining of nothing to eat.
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Then it becomes a really major
problem because I'm talking now
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not about the niceties of
nutrition, but I'm talking about
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the absolute essential of
nutrition, that which sustains,
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keeps alive and
allows us to live at all.
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Not measuring the
degree of quality of that life
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but merely a
quantity of life at all.
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So in the world
today... Talk about that,
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you're talking about children
that say I just haven't had
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anything to eat, and we think
about oh, I didn't get to have
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my whatever the
little nicety is.
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What is the big, what is
the burden in terms of nutrition
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worldwide? I
think that it is almost
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a human right to have food.
I can't think of anything more
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basic than food, and yet
in my own experience it's been
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a tragedy that I've
seen sometimes hundreds,
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thousands of
children dying of starvation.
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I remember in the late
80's when there were famines
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in Ethiopia going around
and feeding maybe 3,000 to 5,000
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children at one sitting,
and they would open their
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mouths like little birds
as we would pop in a little
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vitamin pill, we would
be feeding them a gruel
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which was a concoction of
various grains and soybean
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proteins to try to save them
from the jaws of death literally
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from the jaws of death.
We've seen pictures of starving
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children in likes of
Time Magazine to the point
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that we've almost... become
jaded, yeah, become jaded,
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we sort of said don't
show me another starving child.
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And yet we have the luxury
of talking about whether we are
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going to eat a low fat or a no
fat, or this kind of fat diet,
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and there are
children who are just starving.
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It's probably pointed out, I
used to say to my kid now eat
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the food up, clean your plate,
there's millions of children
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starving, you know and
the kid would give you the
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quick response, well name one.
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My own kid would do that
for me, it sort of sounds...
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you know, they think it's
cool to be able to sort of catch
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their parents out, but
it's a sign of how far we are
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removed from the reality
of malnutrition in the world.
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So per day, thousands of
people die from starvation?
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You know I don't have statistics
right at my fingertips
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and I should have had
that today when I come to talk
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about this. But there are
thousands of children dying
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of starvation and when
you add the malnourishment
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that they have to
all the other illnesses,
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the complexity of illnesses,
it becomes a really foundational
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deficiency, the foundation
just isn't there to survive
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to fight against the
diarrhea's, to fight against the
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tuberculosis, to fight
the parasitic diseases,
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to even withstand HIV,
you know a child born HIV
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infected is only going to live
three or four years in Africa.
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So all these things, if
you don't have anything to
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base it on, don't have
basic food you are in trouble.
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Talk about that a little bit,
I mean if you don't have food
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you are not going to be
able to develop physically
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what are the things
that you are going to...
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Take an African child,
born in an African village,
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he's going to be brought up
depending on the affluence of
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his family. He is going to
be brought up with brothers
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and sisters usually. By
the time the mother gets
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pregnant again, which is by the
time he is about a year of age,
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because that is
roughly the time it will take,
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she'll get pregnant again
and by the time he is 21 months
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22 months old, a
new baby appears.
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He is walking, but he is
still being very much dependent
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on his mother's milk, now
the mother's milk is diverted
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to the new baby, and we
see classically in that group
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a condition called kwashiorkor,
now that is hard to pronounce
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don't try it if
you... Kwashiorkor!
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Kwashiorkor! Kwashiorkor!
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Kwashiorkor is protein calorie
malnutrition that just isn't
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enough for instance tyrosine
in the protein content of the
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food and these children, their
little black children remember,
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they get orange hair because
there isn't enough protein
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to form the melanin to
make that beautiful jet black
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shiny hair that we are so used
to seeing on a healthy child.
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They develop a little pot
belly because the muscle tone is
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so poor and their gut is
gassy because it is poorly...
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it doesn't have
enough absorptive capacity
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so they are not absorbing
that little bit that they have
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as well as they could.
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Their protein, the albumin
in their blood decreases,
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so they start to get
swelling around their ankles.
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They're sick little
objects of abject misery,
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just poor
lethargic little children.
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Now this is having an
effect on their development,
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you take a normal 2 year
old, we say oh, terrible two's
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their into everything, they
are going like they are gung-ho,
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imagination, all that learning,
the input, the sensory input
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it's coming into that brain,
and yet these poor little kids
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are sitting there, and
it's been documented that this
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malnutrition leads to a
delay in the development,
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a delay in the
cognitive development,
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sensory
development of these children.
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So it becomes as it
were a shackle around them
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for the rest of their life.
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Isn't it true like the
first three years in one of your
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specialties is Pediatrics and
then mother/child type things?
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Isn't it true that the
first three years are really
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foundational in
terms of nutrition?
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Foundational for nutrition,
cognitive development,
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physical
development, adaptive behavior,
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I mean we even measure the
head size of the kid you know
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it reaches 4/5 of the adult
size before the time the child's
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two and a half years old,
so the growth of the central
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nervous system, it's all there
in those first two and a half,
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three years, and yet
if we have deficiencies
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be they protein calorie,
be they iodine deficiency,
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it's probably 900,000
people with goiters and
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iodine deficiency, borderline
mental function because
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of iodine deficiency. These
are major problems in the world.
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Well these kinds of
things just overwhelm me to hear
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about, but what can someone
sitting in my chair with my
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perspective I think what
kind of things can you do
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to even impact that?
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Well I think that one of
the things that we can do is
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support those agencies
that are involved in helping
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in these countries. The agencies
are through the United Nations
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we've got UNICEF,
Save the Children,
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we've got non governmental
agencies, church group agencies.
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I think about our own church
our Seventh-day Adventist Church
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we have situated throughout
the world multiple, multiple
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outposts, one through
ADRA, which is the Adventist
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Development and Relief
Agency and the other through
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the private hospitals of
the church and through the
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clinics of the church and
the self supporting missions
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of the church. All of
these agencies are out there
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doing their part to
battle against malnutrition
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And the way that we battle
against malnutrition is through
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is education, we are very
eager to train agricultural
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techniques, so that
they can grow their own food
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so they can
become self sufficient.
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Also an education as to
the value of different foods,
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you want to be sure
that people make the best use
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of limited resources.
Sometimes it's a pity to see
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Coke a Cola as proliferated
into some of these countries
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and they would rather buy
a bottle of Coke a Cola than
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they would buy a
load of whole wheat bread.
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Or they might take an egg
or something that would have
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a value to it other
than... Empty calories.
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A few teaspoonfuls of
sugar, and so we need to educate
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as to what are the nutritional
basics, a basic understanding
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of nutrition. I
think we have some pictures
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from the Adventist
Development Relief Agency,
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we want to look
at a couple of those.
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Right here, the first
one, why don't you help us
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with this one? Well
look at this person here
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this is an individual
who is clearly malnourished.
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Very very thin, a young
person, look at the face,
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the anxious look
on that child's face,
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none of us really worry where
our next meal is coming from.
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Sometimes these children
are scavengers on refuse dumps,
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sometimes they are picking
up a little piece here or a
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little piece there. We
have the luxury of saying
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I wonder if my diet is balanced,
I wonder if I got enough
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vitamin B-12 today. Now
my Calcium requirements are
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1,200 mg of Calcium a day.
Do you think that that person
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is worried about any of
those milligram percentages,
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he's just worried, is there
going to be something to eat?
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Probably he has never
had a thought of those things
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but just the look I
see is there is just one of
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can I make it through?
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Will I make it through the day?
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And who are you that is
taking this picture of me,
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can you help me? Yeah,
what are you doing here?
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And what are we doing there?
See, that's the question we
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have to ask ourselves.
What are we doing there?
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And really we are supposed
to be there to represent Jesus.
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When Jesus saw the multitude
he had compassion upon them,
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he says to His disciples set
them down I'm going to feed them
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and they looked at
Him like what is this,
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what kind of ministry is
this? Yet He broke the bread
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He took the little fishes
and broke it up and He gave it
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to them. He used
what was available,
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He used what was
optimal at the time,
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and he used it to
the greatest advantage,
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because he was
blessed of the Lord.
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And our endeavors for
people if they are done in love
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will be blessed of the Lord.
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So I am a great believer in the
non-governmental organization
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and especially faith
based initiatives in this area.
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So getting involved with your
local church, local community
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however they are supporting
these developing countries
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and being aware yourself,
you should educate maybe
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your children, your
family, and the people that hey
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you know there is a need
to maybe sacrifice on this end
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so you can give more to help
others that don't have anything.
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That's right! And maybe
to talk to our politicians,
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to talk to our representatives
in government that it's
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it's not only on
issues of economics and trade
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that we are concerned,
but that we are also concerned
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on these issues of equity,
justice, and health for all.
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I think if we as a people
can do that, we exert a gentle
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but subtle and definite
pressure on our government
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representatives.
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We're talking with
Dr. Alan Handysides,
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he is the health and
temperance leader of the
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Seventh-day Adventist Church.
He's a physician that has
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traveled around the world,
we're talking about nutrition
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from a global perspective
and he has given us some good
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council about how
we can become involved.
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Join us when we come back.
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Welcome back, we're
with Dr. Alan Handysides
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He is the head physician for
the Seventh-day Adventist Church
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and World Health and
Temperance Department.
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And you have that global
perspective we are talking about
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nutrition, malnutrition,
really we been talking about
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mostly and a huge
problem with starvation
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with all these different
types of things around the world
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from that perspective that
you see there and how we can
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be involved. But
can we have malnutrition
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ia a country that is
known for it's over abundance?
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We certainly can and we
certainly do, mal means bad,
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or poor, bad is
probably good, bad nutrition
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so malnutrition is very
prevalent here in the states
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as well. Of course
it is not a deficiency,
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it's an overabundance.
In fact I read a statistic
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that said 58% of women are
overweight and that more than
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35% of them are
obese in the USA.
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Of course the context of what
I was reading was to do with
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the wave of type 2 diabetes
that's sweeping the country.
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But overweight is certainly
a problem and it's because
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of our diet which is
so heavily laced with fat.
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Forty percent of the calories
that the average American
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takes in comes from fat,
and if we were to look at the
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recommendations that
are made even by our own
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government agencies and
government health organizations
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we'd find that that was
down to... should recommend
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that it was down to between
25- 30%, and there are folks
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amongst us who would
even recommend even less.
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So you can see where we
are consuming far to much fat
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probably in fast foods and...
because we like the taste of it,
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but it's a slippery
slope that we are sliding down
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to poor health, to
poor heart health, diabetes,
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all manner of
problems, hypertension,
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insulin resistance,
the whole picture of that,
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we're slipping into
that with our obesity.
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So they say that what was
it 58% of the women in America
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are overweight, and
the other 30% are obese.
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Now you calculate that
with the body mass index,
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for the listeners, the body
mass index can be calculated
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by taking your weight in
kilograms and dividing it
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it by your height in
meters squared so it's a little
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difficult but if
you wrote that down,
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you weight in kilograms
divided by your height squared.
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Now when you do that if
you have...it should come out
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probably between, if
you are ideal about 22- 25,
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when you get above 25,
25- 28 you are tending to be
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overweight, by the time
you get over 30 you are obese,
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if the body mass index is over
30 you are definitely obese.
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So you can forgo some things
and help world starvation.
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Wouldn't it be great,
wouldn't it be just great
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if we could transfer some
of it from here over there.
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Let's go back to the
other side of the picture,
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you know many times
on the television here or
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from time to time, probably
not as often as we should,
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we see relief efforts where
planes have gone over to Somalia
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and were loading huge
bags of grain, or this or that,
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relief packages. What
should be in those packages,
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should we have more
meat in those packages,
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or different things, what
should we put in those packages?
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Well of course if we were
to put in meat we would be
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woefully misdirecting
our energies wouldn't we.
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We can get 18 times more
protein from vegetable sources
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from a given acre of land
than we do meat if we bring it
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the beef chain. So we
would normally like to say
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well it would be better to
take that in the form of grain
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legumes, like beans,
particularly soy beans are good,
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although we have to be
sure that they know how to use
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the soy beans. I am
always reminded of that
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US-AID Care Package that was
sent some forlorn looking guy
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and they were a box of Snickers
and the guy had that look
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on his face, what am I
supposed to do with this.
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We have to send things that
are appropriate to the country
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we can't send something
that they have never seen or
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don't know how to handle
it. Don't know how to use. Yea!
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So there needs to be education
that goes along with it?
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That's right. Yes!
Now talking about under
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nutrition, is there like a
single factor that we should
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be addressing when we talk
about under nutrition globally?
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It would be nice if
there was one single factor,
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if there were one single
factor we could address it,
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but it's a multi-faceted
problem this under nutrition.
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Poverty certainly ranks in
there as a very important...
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Have-not's! Have-not's! Yeah!
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Then we have to think
about government policy,
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government policies in
some of these countries are such
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that they don't encourage
the transportation of food.
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We have to think about
the roll of men and women
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and the status of
women. Sometimes the rolls that
00:20:13.39\00:20:17.79
we keep women into don't
allow them to be able to be
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producing say food, if we are
sending them 5 hours carrying
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water for five hours, they don't
have the time or the energy
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to take care of other things.
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And then as developing
nation we need to look at the
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massive
indebtedness of the third world.
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I really...you know
I'm a believer in hard work
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and reaping what you
sow, but sometimes we have to
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look at the indebtedness
that we have saddled the
00:20:53.40\00:20:56.28
third world with and say
are we not just enslaving them
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with debt in a pit,
in a morass from which
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they will never get out?
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So get them started, education
and all those different
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kind of things and then
they will be pulling their own
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to at some point. That's right!
00:21:10.90\00:21:12.27
Of course corruption
in government is there,
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there are so many factors,
it's a multifactoral problem.
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Um, I want to show
another picture here from the
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Adventist Disaster Relief
Agency that we have of some
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things being delivered
and I suppose these are relief
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packages that are
filled with what doyou suppose?
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Well, they may be
filled with bulgur wheat,
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wheat is often sent to
these developing countries,
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it could be that it is
filled with milk powder,
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skim milk powder which
is a good source of protein.
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The problem with that
is so many Africans are
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lactose
intolerant, and I remember...
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So we have another problem.
In my early days I said oh,
00:21:52.28\00:21:55.39
we we're just going to make all
the porridge with the milk it'll
00:21:55.42\00:21:57.50
...Then they'll
all have diarrhea,
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so then I learned very quickly
that you can't just impose
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solutions sometimes.
But I would suspect that
00:22:04.14\00:22:06.31
they are the Bulgur wheat or
maybe a soy flour preparation
00:22:06.34\00:22:11.20
that can be used. And
ADRA does a lot of this,
00:22:11.23\00:22:13.78
I noticed there's a big
response there a lot of people
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that are coming, they are
lining up, they do see value
00:22:15.66\00:22:18.24
in it. But they probably
do this around the world but
00:22:18.27\00:22:21.01
how, like you're saying
do you drop off a big bag
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of something that
maybe they are not used to
00:22:25.51\00:22:27.74
maybe they wouldn't
know how to prepare it,
00:22:27.77\00:22:30.33
did they educate
them along with it?
00:22:30.36\00:22:32.06
They would educate
them on how to use that.
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This is the relief
part of ADRA's name,
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remember the development
part - is developing the
00:22:38.13\00:22:41.97
infrastructure, -is to
teach a man to catch a fish,
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he fishes forever, you
give him a fish to eat,
00:22:44.76\00:22:46.88
he eats it in one day.
00:22:46.91\00:22:48.28
So the development part
is such and important aspect
00:22:48.31\00:22:53.62
of this work.
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And in your work then you see
kind of diagnosing the problem
00:22:56.28\00:22:59.18
in some ways, but this
particular arm of the church
00:22:59.21\00:23:02.25
comes in and picks up some
of those parts that need to be
00:23:02.28\00:23:06.91
carried through,
water or food or...
00:23:06.94\00:23:09.39
Yes we see our hospitals
primarily as our treatment
00:23:09.42\00:23:13.26
centers, but
secondary and vitally secondary,
00:23:13.29\00:23:18.48
they must be educational
centers, and if they are not
00:23:18.51\00:23:21.12
they are failing
in their mandate.
00:23:21.15\00:23:23.10
They are to teach in their
region, teach the people to
00:23:23.13\00:23:27.73
grow good foods, to eat
better foods, to make better use
00:23:27.76\00:23:31.73
of what's available.
00:23:31.76\00:23:33.13
We're not so worried
about talking about saturated
00:23:33.16\00:23:36.54
and unsaturated fats
in this type of context,
00:23:36.57\00:23:39.21
but we are interested
in talking about sufficient
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calories, and the
balance and the variety and
00:23:42.95\00:23:46.20
making full use of
that which is available
00:23:46.49\00:23:49.31
not selling the
beans to make a few bucks,
00:23:49.34\00:23:52.28
but eating the beans to give
them a better quality of life,
00:23:52.31\00:23:55.39
to use the fruit that
is growing on the trees.
00:23:55.42\00:23:57.41
To plant fruit trees,
take care of their children,
00:23:57.44\00:24:01.22
these are important,
important things to teach.
00:24:01.25\00:24:04.92
As a physician you
worked a lot with children,
00:24:04.95\00:24:06.78
as a Pediatrician and then
also with women's health issues
00:24:06.81\00:24:11.68
and I don't know if this
is a fair question on not
00:24:11.71\00:24:13.92
but when we are talking,
many times when we talk about
00:24:13.95\00:24:17.39
starvation and these
types of things probably nothing
00:24:17.42\00:24:20.54
would touch the heart
more than talking about
00:24:20.57\00:24:22.48
mother's and children. Do
you have any special concerns
00:24:22.51\00:24:24.78
concerning for instance
pregnant women we've talked
00:24:24.81\00:24:27.97
about children. I am
so pleased that you asked
00:24:28.00\00:24:29.64
that question because
on a question like this,
00:24:29.67\00:24:32.66
it's being shown that
Folic Acid, which is the vitamin
00:24:32.69\00:24:36.88
found in green leafy vegetables,
it's a B-Complex vitamin,
00:24:36.91\00:24:40.57
that when that
vitamin is not present,
00:24:40.60\00:24:43.94
the development of the baby
may be wrong, it may be poor
00:24:43.97\00:24:47.82
and you may get problems.
00:24:47.85\00:24:49.22
So we need to encourage the
use of green leafy vegetables,
00:24:49.25\00:24:53.29
dark green leafy vegetables
by all pregnant mothers.
00:24:53.32\00:24:56.30
I'm reminded where
is says there is Psalm,
00:24:56.33\00:24:58.84
I think it is 119, where David
said, You knew me when I was
00:24:58.87\00:25:03.97
in my mother's womb.
00:25:04.00\00:25:05.52
You saw me when I was
fearfully and curiously wrought.
00:25:05.55\00:25:09.14
I always like to think of
the embryological twistings
00:25:09.17\00:25:12.52
and turnings that were taking
place, and David obviously
00:25:12.55\00:25:15.38
knew about those sort of things,
maybe he saw them in the sheep
00:25:15.41\00:25:17.95
or something. He said
you knew me when I was
00:25:17.98\00:25:19.69
curiously made. The Lord in
His love, watch care over us
00:25:19.72\00:25:25.42
extends His
compassion right into the womb,
00:25:25.45\00:25:27.33
and we want to do that
too by having good diets,
00:25:27.36\00:25:31.07
Iron, Folic Acid, Protein,
adequate calories so that
00:25:31.10\00:25:35.81
these babies can from the
very conception and inception
00:25:35.84\00:25:39.89
of their life,
they can grow properly.
00:25:39.92\00:25:42.64
So green leafy
vegetables, you know when I was
00:25:42.67\00:25:45.28
taking State Board Examinations,
this was many years ago
00:25:45.31\00:25:48.18
for nursing, I knew that that
was one of the choices I had
00:25:48.21\00:25:52.54
on my multiple choice if I put
that I would always be right.
00:25:52.57\00:25:54.93
You can't go wrong
with green leafy vegetables.
00:25:54.96\00:25:57.29
We've got about two minutes
left and I want to talk about
00:25:57.32\00:26:00.89
ask you a question about
Human Rights as it relates to
00:26:00.92\00:26:04.84
under nutrition and then
maybe the spiritual aspects
00:26:04.87\00:26:08.05
of this from your perspective
and from where you are trying
00:26:08.08\00:26:11.65
to impact change.
00:26:11.68\00:26:13.05
Would you care to
comment on that as we close?
00:26:13.08\00:26:15.68
Well, I think we
mentioned human rights,
00:26:15.71\00:26:18.28
we did touch on food as
being a basic human rights,
00:26:18.31\00:26:22.38
and I think as individuals,
it was Cain, he killed Able
00:26:22.41\00:26:30.54
his brother and God said
his blood is crying out to me.
00:26:30.57\00:26:36.14
And Cain's response was,
am I my brother's keeper?
00:26:36.17\00:26:39.73
And I think that we are in
danger sometimes of feasting
00:26:39.76\00:26:45.05
off the land and not
being worried about others.
00:26:45.08\00:26:49.29
I think God made
us all of one flesh,
00:26:49.32\00:26:52.32
we are all made of one blood,
He loves us all just the same.
00:26:52.35\00:26:57.12
and if we are to be His
son's and His daughter's,
00:26:57.15\00:27:00.10
we will be our
brother's keepers.
00:27:00.13\00:27:02.17
We will have concern, and we
will see to it that we nurture
00:27:02.20\00:27:08.11
the rights of children
to food and nourishment,
00:27:08.14\00:27:13.11
clothing and shelter, these
are very basic human rights.
00:27:13.14\00:27:18.56
So we need to be thinking about
ways we can get involved now.
00:27:18.59\00:27:21.61
We need to be
thinking how to get involved...
00:27:21.64\00:27:23.49
When that mission
offering comes around, when that
00:27:23.52\00:27:25.72
Adventist Disaster
Relief offering or whatever the
00:27:25.75\00:27:28.08
churches that you are involved
in or network to get involved
00:27:28.11\00:27:32.57
and say hey, I want
to be involved in that.
00:27:32.60\00:27:35.20
The Good Book says, it is more
blessed to give than receive.
00:27:35.23\00:27:40.15
and I would like for
our listeners to receive
00:27:40.18\00:27:43.97
that blessing.
We've been talking with
00:27:44.01\00:27:46.72
Dr. Alan Handysides,
we've been talking about
00:27:46.75\00:27:49.49
world nutrition, and we hope
that today's program will be
00:27:49.52\00:27:53.09
a blessing to you.
We are thankful for
00:27:53.12\00:27:55.00
Adventist Development Relief
Agency and the pictures they
00:27:55.03\00:27:58.43
provided for today.
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