Hello and welcome to "Health for a Lifetime" 00:00:47.67\00:00:49.60 I'm your host Don Mackintosh 00:00:49.63\00:00:51.27 Are you relaxed? 00:00:51.30\00:00:52.86 You should be... that's what our guest is going to 00:00:52.89\00:00:54.72 share with us today and how to do that! 00:00:54.75\00:00:56.58 We're glad that Skip MacCarty, 00:00:56.61\00:00:58.13 Dr. Skip MacCarty, Fellow of the American College of Stress 00:00:58.16\00:01:02.11 is with us today. 00:01:02.14\00:01:03.51 He's going to be sharing really 00:01:03.54\00:01:05.71 how we can RELAX. Isn't that right? Right 00:01:05.74\00:01:07.82 You know, I've heard a lot about 00:01:07.85\00:01:09.52 type A, type B personalities, 00:01:09.55\00:01:11.01 does this have anything to do with relaxation? 00:01:11.04\00:01:13.73 Well, it has something to do with stress, 00:01:13.76\00:01:15.59 and this series on stress 00:01:15.62\00:01:17.68 and relaxation is a component of that... 00:01:17.71\00:01:19.37 But yes, type A, type B personality is very interesting 00:01:19.40\00:01:22.14 how that was discovered by 2 cardiologists, 00:01:22.17\00:01:24.43 Dr. Meyer Friedman and Ron Rosenman 00:01:24.46\00:01:26.15 And there was an upholsterer that was going around the city 00:01:26.18\00:01:29.83 just upholstering different office furniture, 00:01:29.86\00:01:32.36 and he happened to mention to them... 00:01:32.39\00:01:34.48 He said, "Yours is the only office I find where the 00:01:34.51\00:01:37.38 arm rests on your chairs, the end of those arm rests 00:01:37.41\00:01:40.15 are clawed! 00:01:40.18\00:01:41.91 And, of course, they're doing all these open heart surgeries 00:01:41.94\00:01:44.13 and they started talking about that and saying... 00:01:44.16\00:01:46.42 "I wonder if our patients are really different, 00:01:46.45\00:01:47.87 if they're just nervous or what" 00:01:47.90\00:01:49.27 And they did this research and then came out with 00:01:49.30\00:01:52.79 the type A, type B personality characteristics. 00:01:52.82\00:01:55.85 The type A personality is someone who is 00:01:55.88\00:01:58.62 highly competitive. 00:01:58.65\00:02:00.02 They are competitive even if they're playing a table game 00:02:00.05\00:02:04.25 with their kids; they go out to WIN. 00:02:04.28\00:02:06.39 Very time-urgent, trying to pack as many things as possible 00:02:06.42\00:02:10.04 into the shortness period of time as possible; 00:02:10.07\00:02:11.84 aggressive, very ambitious. 00:02:11.87\00:02:14.10 They feel guilty relaxing; they have a hard time relaxing 00:02:14.13\00:02:18.43 because they feel they need to be accomplishing something 00:02:18.46\00:02:20.28 They're not accomplishing something when they're relaxing. 00:02:20.31\00:02:22.14 Impatient, kind of hostile. 00:02:22.17\00:02:24.21 The toughest thing... the hardest thing on a 00:02:24.24\00:02:26.24 type A person is a type B person ... a more relaxed-type person. 00:02:26.27\00:02:29.58 And they're very fast-action in speech. 00:02:29.61\00:02:31.95 If you ever talk to somebody and you get in the middle of a 00:02:31.98\00:02:34.57 sentence... you kind of lose your train, 00:02:34.60\00:02:36.15 they'll finish the sentence for you... apply the missing word! 00:02:36.18\00:02:39.23 And because of this, because they're so demanding 00:02:39.26\00:02:43.20 of other people and also demanding of themselves, 00:02:43.23\00:02:45.95 they tend to be somewhat socially isolated 00:02:45.98\00:02:47.97 because it's hard to be around them for very long. 00:02:48.00\00:02:51.67 You're not a type A person are you? 00:02:51.70\00:02:53.86 You have to ask my wife, 00:02:53.89\00:02:55.26 but on a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being the highest 00:02:55.29\00:03:00.28 you can be on a type A, 00:03:00.31\00:03:02.66 we both rank me about an 8... Yeah 00:03:02.69\00:03:05.82 So, a type B person, what are they like? 00:03:05.85\00:03:08.83 Well, type B would just about be the reverse of the type A 00:03:08.86\00:03:13.01 They're more easy-going, more relaxed. 00:03:13.04\00:03:16.99 They are easily satisfied more; 00:03:17.02\00:03:19.55 they play for fun, not necessarily just to win. 00:03:19.58\00:03:23.20 They are much easier to roll with the punches. 00:03:23.23\00:03:26.45 They're not compulsively driven; they are still successful. 00:03:26.48\00:03:29.24 A study of 100 government leaders found that 00:03:29.27\00:03:32.44 40% of them were type B 00:03:32.47\00:03:34.20 So it doesn't mean you're not successful if you're type B; 00:03:34.23\00:03:37.66 it just means you're not DRIVEN compulsively. 00:03:37.69\00:03:39.88 They don't try to cram as many events as they 00:03:39.91\00:03:43.27 possibly can into a limited period of time... 00:03:43.30\00:03:45.08 That's the type B person. 00:03:45.11\00:03:46.48 And none of us, Don, are totally type A... 00:03:46.51\00:03:48.61 well - some people may be totally type A 00:03:48.64\00:03:50.40 I have some people tell me they are 11 on a scale of 1-10 type A 00:03:50.44\00:03:53.24 And very few people are down at #1 00:03:53.60\00:03:55.96 We're somewhere usually in-between. 00:03:55.99\00:03:57.83 And, you're the type A-enders or the type B-enders 00:03:57.86\00:04:01.35 So, in other words, on this show I see that there is 00:04:01.38\00:04:04.41 absolutely no upholstery left here on these. 00:04:04.44\00:04:06.64 You have relaxed people. 00:04:06.67\00:04:10.63 Okay, so type A... just really going for it all the time; 00:04:10.66\00:04:13.90 type B... more laid-back but still we need to be 00:04:13.93\00:04:17.51 a mix or we need to... 00:04:17.54\00:04:19.14 Yeah, well if you're type A, you need to be aware 00:04:19.17\00:04:22.71 that Dr. Meyer Friedman and Dr. Ron Rosenman did research 00:04:22.74\00:04:25.54 on 3,000 patients and found that you were 70% more likely 00:04:25.57\00:04:30.57 to have open heart surgery and a heart attack 00:04:30.60\00:04:34.18 if you were type A, a high-end type A 00:04:34.21\00:04:36.99 So you need to build some things into your lifestyle 00:04:37.02\00:04:41.53 that will buffer the effects of being type A. 00:04:41.56\00:04:44.87 Now, you have a seminar that's entitled "Stress Beyond Coping" 00:04:44.90\00:04:48.98 and you became a fellow of the American Institute of Stress 00:04:49.01\00:04:51.99 as a result of this seminar... 00:04:52.02\00:04:53.95 What do you tell people that are type A? 00:04:53.98\00:04:56.16 As I'm listening to you, I think, and probably my wife 00:04:56.19\00:04:58.51 is thinking too right now... 00:04:58.54\00:05:00.00 You know, he really needs to be listening to this, 00:05:00.03\00:05:02.05 this is one of those tapes she'll have playing 00:05:02.08\00:05:03.89 when I come home maybe. 00:05:03.92\00:05:05.29 What should a type A person do? 00:05:05.32\00:05:06.95 Well a goal, Don, of all stress management; 00:05:06.98\00:05:10.21 one of the goals is what I call the "Concord Factor" 00:05:10.24\00:05:14.50 The Concord was the British transatlantic flight airplane 00:05:14.53\00:05:18.26 that still, even though... subsequent even to the crash 00:05:18.29\00:05:23.59 of Paris in the year 2000, 00:05:23.62\00:05:25.75 the Concord is still the safest plane ever built, 00:05:25.78\00:05:28.39 and it flies at supersonic speeds. 00:05:28.42\00:05:30.78 When it's traveling at supersonic speeds, 00:05:30.81\00:05:33.70 it can be 69 degrees outside the plane, 00:05:33.73\00:05:37.02 but the shell, because of the friction cutting through 00:05:37.05\00:05:39.79 the atmosphere is 261 degrees+ F 00:05:39.82\00:05:44.93 It is minus 69 on the outside, a difference of over 300 degrees 00:05:44.96\00:05:48.33 and it puts great strain on the plane. 00:05:48.36\00:05:51.04 The body actually lengthens by several inches, 00:05:51.07\00:05:56.81 and to accommodate that, the coach on the inside is built 00:05:56.84\00:06:00.74 on rollers and they have 4 huge air-conditioners, 00:06:00.77\00:06:03.97 so you're in living room comfort on the inside 00:06:04.00\00:06:06.01 while all this turbulence is on the outside, 00:06:06.04\00:06:08.12 and one of the goals of stress management is 00:06:08.15\00:06:10.03 to achieve a peace and tranquility within 00:06:10.06\00:06:13.17 while there is great turbulence and distress outwardly. 00:06:13.20\00:06:15.74 We need to be like the Concord. 00:06:15.77\00:06:17.35 Be somewhat like the Concord... right! 00:06:17.38\00:06:19.36 All right, so anything else we should do? 00:06:19.39\00:06:23.31 Well, the way to get to the Concord is relaxation, 00:06:23.34\00:06:28.14 and relaxation is... there are 7 keys to managing stress 00:06:28.17\00:06:31.58 And going back to the stress tank that we've 00:06:31.61\00:06:33.95 developed in another program... 00:06:33.98\00:06:36.28 The 7 keys to managing stress that prevent the 00:06:36.31\00:06:43.26 build-up of stress in our lives, in our stress-tank, so-to-speak, 00:06:43.29\00:06:47.38 to the overflow point is relaxation. 00:06:47.41\00:06:50.26 One of those keys is relaxation, a very important one on charts 00:06:50.29\00:06:52.90 So that releases the pressure. Right! 00:06:52.93\00:06:55.41 And if we look at the stress pyramid, 00:06:55.44\00:07:00.01 relaxation is about halfway at the stress pyramid 00:07:00.04\00:07:03.27 with the most important being at the top, 00:07:03.30\00:07:06.05 and working down from there... 00:07:06.08\00:07:07.45 relaxation is a very important component. 00:07:07.48\00:07:09.72 All the stress experts... 00:07:09.75\00:07:11.12 In fact, there are 19 different corporate wellness programs 00:07:11.15\00:07:13.97 studied by Dr. Richard Lazarus, 00:07:14.00\00:07:15.52 and 12 of them taught ONLY relaxation techniques... 00:07:15.55\00:07:18.46 So relaxation is VERY important for stress management. 00:07:18.49\00:07:20.77 So we need education in how to relax... We all do - we all do. 00:07:20.80\00:07:26.43 All right... Do you ever feel guilty when you're relaxing? 00:07:26.46\00:07:29.97 Yes, but you know, I've learned and one of the things that 00:07:30.00\00:07:34.78 makes it hard for type A people to relax is that 00:07:34.81\00:07:38.30 they feel like they need to be accomplishing something. 00:07:38.33\00:07:40.68 When you're relaxing, you're not accomplishing something. 00:07:40.71\00:07:42.29 But when you realize the importance of relaxation, 00:07:42.32\00:07:45.37 and that with relaxation you are accomplishing something 00:07:45.40\00:07:48.08 And, in fact, because it's benefiting your health, 00:07:48.11\00:07:52.02 you're at a health risk if you don't learn how to relax. 00:07:52.05\00:07:55.69 Last night I was staying in a place where I 00:07:55.72\00:07:58.80 think some people were really relaxing; 00:07:58.83\00:08:00.36 they were laughing almost uproariously 00:08:00.39\00:08:02.86 until about 12 o'clock and I mean 00:08:02.89\00:08:05.49 just listening to them laugh, kind of made me laugh sometimes. 00:08:05.52\00:08:08.84 What about humor, does it help us at all with relaxation? 00:08:08.87\00:08:12.39 Humor is #1 on the scale of relaxation. 00:08:12.42\00:08:15.48 Is that right? Yep! 00:08:15.51\00:08:16.88 Humor is SO important. 00:08:21.07\00:08:22.91 If you've ever been in a tense situation, 00:08:22.94\00:08:24.37 and you know how... Well you're a great one at that! 00:08:24.40\00:08:27.35 You enjoy laughing, you love laughing, 00:08:27.38\00:08:28.97 and that's a great tension-reliever. 00:08:29.00\00:08:31.85 Abraham Lincoln was great at that. 00:08:31.88\00:08:33.60 One time he was debating with Douglas, 00:08:33.63\00:08:36.55 and Douglas accused him of being two-faced... 00:08:36.58\00:08:38.99 And when Lincoln got back up, 00:08:39.02\00:08:40.40 he said, "Now come on folks, if I was two-faced, 00:08:40.43\00:08:42.53 would I be wearing this one?" 00:08:42.56\00:08:46.20 And relaxation is tremendous... 00:08:46.23\00:08:48.49 Dr. William Fry at Stanford University, 00:08:48.52\00:08:51.63 likens it to internal jogging. 00:08:51.66\00:08:53.99 It gives your internal organs a workout! 00:08:54.02\00:08:58.60 And you actually tense-up during relaxation... 00:08:58.63\00:09:01.12 During a good belly laugh, you tense up, 00:09:01.15\00:09:02.98 and then they've found that the relaxation effects 00:09:03.01\00:09:08.03 subsequent to a good laugh, can last as long as 45 minutes. 00:09:08.06\00:09:13.27 Wow, so a merry heart does do good like a medicine! 00:09:13.30\00:09:15.77 And there's a book called "Don't Get Angry, Laugh" 00:09:15.80\00:09:24.46 Or "Don't Get Angry, Get Funny" 00:09:24.49\00:09:27.50 And, it talks about the misery index. 00:09:27.53\00:09:29.63 Have you ever been in a situation where you 00:09:29.66\00:09:32.24 were in a very difficult and distressing situation, 00:09:32.27\00:09:35.99 and then later on, you could look back and laugh at it? 00:09:36.02\00:09:37.87 Oh yeah, just last week! 00:09:37.90\00:09:39.27 Well, the misery index is the length of time it takes 00:09:39.30\00:09:45.03 between when you go through a situation like that 00:09:45.06\00:09:46.88 and when you can laugh at it. 00:09:46.91\00:09:48.47 And the goal, the great goal in stress management 00:09:48.50\00:09:51.67 is to get that index as short as you can until 00:09:51.70\00:09:55.09 you can actually be in a situation that's very difficult. 00:09:55.12\00:09:57.53 You can say, "Some day we're going to laugh at this, 00:09:57.56\00:09:59.56 and being able to laugh while you are 00:09:59.59\00:10:02.02 actually in that situation... And if you do that too soon, 00:10:02.05\00:10:04.16 they're going to think that maybe you need 00:10:04.19\00:10:05.56 to go to a certain type of institution 00:10:05.59\00:10:07.17 where there are lots of people with pink coats 00:10:07.20\00:10:09.53 and whatnot around you! 00:10:09.56\00:10:10.93 But it can be healthy to be able to do that. 00:10:10.96\00:10:12.59 Yeah, I agree with that! 00:10:12.62\00:10:14.29 I think that's a great point. 00:10:14.32\00:10:17.37 All right, so anything else we should do? 00:10:17.40\00:10:20.43 Well, there is just relaxation breathing, 00:10:20.46\00:10:23.15 a very simple thing but it's belly-breathing. 00:10:23.18\00:10:25.63 And when you watch a little baby breathe, 00:10:25.66\00:10:27.59 its little tummy goes up and down, it's laying on its back, 00:10:27.62\00:10:30.59 we learn when we're adolescents, 00:10:30.62\00:10:31.99 it's not too cute walking around 00:10:32.02\00:10:33.39 and have our little tummies going in and out, 00:10:33.42\00:10:34.79 so we learn chest-breathing. 00:10:34.82\00:10:36.28 But when we breathe with our bellies, let our bellies expand, 00:10:36.31\00:10:41.96 it drops the diaphragm and we can actually 00:10:41.99\00:10:44.02 take a lot more air in, 00:10:44.05\00:10:46.16 then we can chest-breathe as well, get a good deep breath, 00:10:46.19\00:10:49.25 and even in just 15 seconds, taking a GOOD deep breath, 00:10:49.28\00:10:52.67 holding it for just a few seconds, 00:10:52.70\00:10:54.37 and then letting it out slowly, can bring tremendous relief. 00:10:54.40\00:11:00.40 Dr. Robert Elliot was 40 years old, 00:11:00.43\00:11:03.10 he was chief of cardiology at the University of Nebraska, 00:11:03.13\00:11:05.44 had a heart attack. Well that's not good. 00:11:05.47\00:11:07.39 He then went into stress medicine, 00:11:07.42\00:11:09.25 and he is now director of stress medicine at Denver, Colorado. 00:11:09.28\00:11:11.98 He wrote this, "Chest breathing, the most common, 00:11:12.01\00:11:15.67 tends to be rapid and shallow especially under stress. 00:11:15.70\00:11:18.16 The slow, regular deep breaths characteristic of 00:11:18.19\00:11:20.76 abdominal breathing, on the other hand, 00:11:20.79\00:11:22.89 are associated with physical calm. " 00:11:22.92\00:11:24.60 "There's a good deal of evidence that when people 00:11:24.63\00:11:26.57 switch from chest to abdominal breathing, 00:11:26.60\00:11:28.67 even temporarily, emotional and physical distress 00:11:28.70\00:11:32.14 diminished significantly. " 00:11:32.17\00:11:34.35 He wrote an excellent book on stress called, 00:11:34.38\00:11:36.71 "Is It Worth Dying For" 00:11:36.74\00:11:38.11 I think we should just take a couple of deep breaths right now 00:11:38.14\00:11:40.31 Sounds good... Boy, that does feel good. 00:11:40.34\00:11:44.25 Now in your seminar, I also noticed that you talked 00:11:44.28\00:11:46.76 a lot about "Islands of Peace" 00:11:46.79\00:11:48.46 Is that some place in Hawaii or some place we can go? 00:11:48.49\00:11:51.16 A nice atmosphere... is that what you mean? 00:11:51.19\00:11:54.07 Or what are "Islands of Peace?" 00:11:54.10\00:11:55.86 Well, "Islands of Peace" can be a whole series of things. 00:11:55.89\00:11:58.81 They can be just taking a walk; 00:11:58.84\00:12:05.83 taking a short nap; taking a lunch break; 00:12:05.86\00:12:09.34 taking a deep-breathing break. 00:12:09.37\00:12:11.49 Changing what you're doing and doing something else. 00:12:11.52\00:12:13.01 ...Taking a vacation, taking a day off. 00:12:13.04\00:12:15.15 If you take a vacation, you want to plan to 00:12:15.18\00:12:17.73 come back a couple of days early because 00:12:17.77\00:12:19.32 most vacations are fairly stressful... 00:12:19.35\00:12:20.87 You need an "Island of Peace" 00:12:20.90\00:12:22.27 from your "Island of Peace" That's right! 00:12:22.30\00:12:23.89 The Sabbath is a great Island of Peace that God has given to us. 00:12:23.93\00:12:28.93 There's a book written by a Notre Dame graduate, 00:12:28.96\00:12:31.31 Marva Dawn called, "Keeping the Sabbath Holy" 00:12:31.34\00:12:34.01 and she talks about the importance of the Sabbath 00:12:34.04\00:12:35.95 and she tells a story in there about pioneers 00:12:35.98\00:12:39.50 going over the Oregon Trail... 00:12:39.53\00:12:40.92 And they were trying to get to the west before winter set in... 00:12:40.95\00:12:45.51 going through the Midwest and so they were debating 00:12:45.54\00:12:48.30 whether they should keep the Sabbath or not, 00:12:48.33\00:12:50.07 and they split up into 2 groups; 00:12:50.10\00:12:53.02 1 group thought they couldn't afford to keep the Sabbath, 00:12:53.05\00:12:55.29 the other group thought they would keep the Sabbath. 00:12:55.32\00:12:57.02 Interestingly enough, the ones that got to the west first 00:12:57.05\00:13:00.55 was the group that kept the Sabbath. 00:13:00.58\00:13:02.33 The Sabbath is a... it comes back to us; 00:13:02.36\00:13:04.30 that rest and relaxation comes back to us. 00:13:04.33\00:13:06.21 I remember when I was in school, after each class 00:13:06.24\00:13:08.70 I'd go up and I'd run up and I'd go through the 00:13:08.73\00:13:10.83 parking lot and come back around... 00:13:10.86\00:13:12.40 Well, it didn't really help me much in school, 00:13:12.43\00:13:14.21 but I felt a lot better! Exactly 00:13:14.24\00:13:15.92 And that's the kind of thing 00:13:15.95\00:13:17.32 you're talking about, "Island of Peace"... Yep 00:13:17.35\00:13:18.72 Another thing I noticed here that was fascinating to me, 00:13:18.79\00:13:21.46 of course coming from a healthcare background was 00:13:21.49\00:13:23.27 "Making peace with your environment" 00:13:23.30\00:13:25.69 This is so important, Don, making peace with your 00:13:25.72\00:13:27.43 environment... it simply means taking things that are 00:13:27.46\00:13:30.21 distracting to you and turning them into friends. 00:13:30.24\00:13:32.57 I was traveling across country from Salt Lake City 00:13:32.60\00:13:34.56 to Lincoln, Nebraska one time; 00:13:34.59\00:13:36.07 I was too poor to get a motel and too cheap to get a motel. 00:13:36.10\00:13:40.40 I stopped at a rest stop midway; 00:13:40.43\00:13:42.18 I was so tired, it was in the middle of the night, 00:13:42.21\00:13:43.86 rolled the window down a little bit because it was 00:13:43.89\00:13:45.69 in the summertime, early summer, to get a little fresh air, 00:13:45.72\00:13:49.62 and then there were like 20 trucks lined up behind me 00:13:49.65\00:13:52.26 just droning away, going like crazy. 00:13:52.29\00:13:54.37 Diesels you mean and that smell too and everything. 00:13:54.40\00:13:56.68 They don't turn off, man, because it too hard 00:13:56.71\00:13:58.80 to turn them back on, so they're just going all night. 00:13:58.83\00:14:00.78 And I'm thinking to myself, I'll never get to sleep this way. 00:14:00.81\00:14:03.81 But you know what, I thought that through, 00:14:03.84\00:14:06.96 and I thought, "Any of those guys could wake up at any time, 00:14:06.99\00:14:09.36 it's not very safe me being here in the middle of the night 00:14:09.39\00:14:11.41 with my window rolled down" 00:14:11.44\00:14:12.81 "But with those guys likely to wake up at any time with 00:14:12.84\00:14:15.13 their CBs, calling for help, I'm probably pretty safe here" 00:14:15.17\00:14:19.16 So then that sound of those diesels droning away 00:14:19.19\00:14:22.64 became music and put me right to sleep. 00:14:22.67\00:14:24.05 Making peace with your environment, 00:14:24.08\00:14:25.45 turning distractions into friends. 00:14:25.48\00:14:27.12 I think the same thing in the hospital... 00:14:27.15\00:14:28.52 I'd take care of patients and they had all those 00:14:28.55\00:14:30.21 monitors going off and different things, 00:14:30.24\00:14:32.24 and they'd say, "Can't we turn these off?" 00:14:32.27\00:14:34.09 I'd say, "If you turn those off, that's a bad sign. " 00:14:34.12\00:14:36.68 "You want those to keep beeping!" 00:14:36.71\00:14:38.55 And a lot of patients would say, "Hey, you know, 00:14:38.58\00:14:40.72 that really helped" They made peace with it then. 00:14:40.75\00:14:43.93 That's exactly the point! 00:14:43.96\00:14:45.54 We've been talking with Dr. Skip MacCarty 00:14:45.57\00:14:47.61 He has written a seminar called "Stress Beyond Coping" 00:14:47.64\00:14:50.86 He is a fellow of the American Institute of Stress 00:14:50.89\00:14:54.06 and we hope that what you have been learning 00:14:54.09\00:14:56.12 has been helpful to you, 00:14:56.15\00:14:57.61 and we hope you join us when we come back. 00:14:57.64\00:14:59.61 Have you found yourself wishing 00:15:01.59\00:15:02.96 that you could shed a few pounds? 00:15:02.99\00:15:04.62 Have you been on a diet for most of your life 00:15:04.65\00:15:06.87 but not found anything that will really keep the weight off? 00:15:06.90\00:15:09.97 If you've answered "yes" to any of these questions, 00:15:10.00\00:15:12.79 then we have a solution for you that works! 00:15:12.82\00:15:15.62 Dr. Hans Diehl and Dr. Aileen Ludington 00:15:15.65\00:15:18.47 have written a marvelous booklet called... 00:15:18.50\00:15:20.60 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 00:15:20.63\00:15:22.95 and we'd like to send it to you FREE of charge. 00:15:22.98\00:15:25.58 Here's a medically sound approach successfully 00:15:25.61\00:15:28.15 used by thousands who were able to eat more 00:15:28.18\00:15:30.67 and lose weight permanently without feeling guilty or hungry 00:15:30.70\00:15:34.20 through lifestyle medicine. 00:15:34.23\00:15:35.98 Dr. Diehl and Dr. Ludington have been featured on 3ABN 00:15:36.01\00:15:39.58 and in this booklet, they present a sensible approach 00:15:39.61\00:15:42.53 to eating, nutrition and lifestyle changes 00:15:42.56\00:15:45.13 that can help you prevent heart disease, diabetes, 00:15:45.16\00:15:47.54 and EVEN cancer. 00:15:47.57\00:15:48.94 Call or write today for your free copy of... 00:15:48.97\00:15:51.15 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 00:15:51.18\00:15:52.74 and you could be on your way to a healthier, happier YOU! 00:15:52.77\00:15:56.17 It's ABSOLUTELY free of charge, so call or write today. 00:15:56.20\00:16:00.78 Welcome back, we're talking with Dr. Skip MacCarty 00:16:02.11\00:16:04.60 He is a fellow with the "American Institute of Stress" 00:16:04.63\00:16:07.82 and we've been learning some really interesting things 00:16:07.85\00:16:10.36 about how to relax! 00:16:10.40\00:16:11.77 You know doctor, sometimes I find it very hard to relax; 00:16:11.80\00:16:14.82 my schedule just doesn't seem to allow for it. What should I do? 00:16:14.85\00:16:16.89 Well you're right, we just all have to make a commitment 00:16:17.78\00:16:20.28 to plan lighter days when we get into those kinds of situations. 00:16:20.31\00:16:23.79 Dr. Meyer Friedman, the one 00:16:23.82\00:16:25.73 who was with Dr. Ray Rosenman 00:16:25.76\00:16:28.86 discovered type A, type B personality, 00:16:28.89\00:16:31.15 and wrote the book on it. 00:16:31.18\00:16:35.63 He had a heart attack when he was fairly young. 00:16:35.66\00:16:38.27 He was just pushing, pushing himself. 00:16:38.30\00:16:39.84 He was a type A himself. 00:16:39.87\00:16:41.29 And he said that he came up with what he called 00:16:41.32\00:16:44.80 the 5-year rule... 00:16:44.83\00:16:46.44 And that is when he was asked to do something, 00:16:46.47\00:16:49.23 he would ask himself... "Will this matter in 5 years?" 00:16:49.26\00:16:52.35 He said that thinned out his calendar considerably 00:16:52.38\00:16:54.46 because he was saying no to so many things. 00:16:54.49\00:16:56.99 You know Don, in World War II, talking about this very issue, 00:16:57.02\00:17:01.81 the British people, when they converted their factories over 00:17:01.84\00:17:07.86 to war munitions factories and making war machines, 00:17:07.89\00:17:12.84 their average worker got up to 66 hours a week of work. 00:17:12.87\00:17:16.58 And they found that their quality had gone way down, 00:17:16.61\00:17:19.07 their productivity was dropping. 00:17:19.10\00:17:21.08 Just as government policy began to cut back the work hours, 00:17:21.11\00:17:23.67 they got it back to 48 hours, and found that 00:17:23.70\00:17:26.12 productivity had increased by 5% over 66 hours! 00:17:26.15\00:17:30.20 By actually working less, they accomplished more... 00:17:30.23\00:17:31.93 And the quality had gone back up to a very high degree of quality 00:17:31.96\00:17:34.91 So actually, the idea that working more - accomplishes more 00:17:34.94\00:17:39.33 has a limit, because after a certain point, 00:17:39.36\00:17:42.27 we actually accomplish LESS by working more; 00:17:42.30\00:17:44.60 don't enjoy it as much and we actually 00:17:44.63\00:17:47.21 come up with a poor quality product. 00:17:47.24\00:17:49.27 So less is more? 00:17:49.30\00:17:50.67 To a point, that's right. 00:17:50.70\00:17:53.46 You know, I think that one thing you've just shared now 00:17:53.49\00:17:55.29 is going to make a lot of people want to get this tape. 00:17:55.32\00:17:57.29 They're going to be showing it to their bosses. 00:17:57.32\00:17:59.03 They're going to show it to all these different people. 00:17:59.06\00:18:01.93 What about exercise and relaxation? 00:18:01.96\00:18:04.07 Well it's interesting, exercise is one of the things 00:18:04.10\00:18:06.94 we need to be able to relax. 00:18:06.97\00:18:08.87 You'd think the opposite of that 00:18:08.91\00:18:10.78 but have you ever been so tired you couldn't sleep? 00:18:10.81\00:18:13.57 So tired you couldn't sleep... Maybe you haven't 00:18:13.60\00:18:16.15 Yes, I have, I have. Yeah 00:18:16.18\00:18:17.75 I have too and we can do that if we're just doing 00:18:17.78\00:18:20.03 desk-type work because we get mentally 00:18:20.06\00:18:22.59 fatigued but not physically fatigued. 00:18:22.62\00:18:25.08 What exercise does, it brings a physical fatigue, 00:18:25.11\00:18:27.18 even if you exercise earlier in the day... 00:18:27.21\00:18:28.95 There's a physical fatigue that accompanies exercise 00:18:28.98\00:18:32.70 that enables you to relax. 00:18:32.73\00:18:34.10 After you're tensed up, after you exercise, 00:18:34.13\00:18:35.94 you have a deeper relaxation of response for hours afterwards 00:18:35.97\00:18:42.91 Did you sleep better last night after our 5 mile walk? 00:18:42.94\00:18:45.35 I slept much better after our 5 mile walk! 00:18:45.38\00:18:47.18 Oh man, I did too! It was great! 00:18:47.21\00:18:48.71 So that's what we need to do... 00:18:48.74\00:18:50.68 Especially if we're doing brain work. Exactly! 00:18:50.71\00:18:54.09 How much should we sleep when we go to sleep? 00:18:54.12\00:18:56.83 Research shows, Don, that we need between 00:18:56.86\00:18:59.13 7-8 hours sleep to be the BEST. 00:18:59.16\00:19:03.18 People who sleep less than that or more than that 00:19:03.21\00:19:06.25 actually die at a higher rate than those who sleep 7-8 hours 00:19:06.28\00:19:10.70 But the rule of thumb is that if you're waking 00:19:10.73\00:19:16.52 to an alarm clock, you're not getting enough sleep. 00:19:16.55\00:19:19.47 You need to wake BEFORE the alarm goes off. 00:19:19.50\00:19:22.04 Throw those alarm clocks out... That's right 00:19:22.08\00:19:24.59 This is good news for lots of people! 00:19:24.62\00:19:27.16 And, in fact, the only way that I found to accomplish that 00:19:27.19\00:19:31.24 is to manage the night before. 00:19:31.27\00:19:33.33 You can't set the alarm earlier 00:19:33.36\00:19:35.79 or just set the alarm later, that doesn't work. 00:19:35.82\00:19:37.96 You've got to try going to bed a little bit earlier 00:19:37.99\00:19:40.10 the night before. 00:19:40.13\00:19:41.54 Turn off the TV program a little earlier; 00:19:41.57\00:19:43.30 turn on the VCR and tape it if you have to or whatever 00:19:43.33\00:19:45.62 But go to sleep a little bit earlier the night before, 00:19:45.65\00:19:48.00 and keep doing that - still set the alarm at the time 00:19:48.03\00:19:49.80 you need to get up but the alarm should be the fail-safe. 00:19:49.84\00:19:51.49 You should be waking before the alarm. 00:19:52.97\00:19:54.36 Then your body has had this sleep that it needs 00:19:54.39\00:19:56.51 and you're ready to go to work. 00:19:56.54\00:19:59.03 Did you have teenagers? 00:19:59.06\00:20:00.43 Yes, I had teenagers. I had 6 of them! 00:20:00.46\00:20:03.54 Would you trust this with them... no alarm clock 00:20:03.57\00:20:05.99 Well if they were... I didn't trust myself 00:20:06.02\00:20:12.16 as a teenager with no alarm clock... 00:20:12.19\00:20:15.05 So YOU were their alarm clock probably at that time... 00:20:15.08\00:20:17.26 But we need to go to bed earlier so we can get up. 00:20:17.29\00:20:19.76 Any types of things that can help us relax? 00:20:19.79\00:20:22.31 Yes, there is a whole series of fun things 00:20:22.34\00:20:28.67 that I refer to as relaxation devices 00:20:28.70\00:20:31.00 and I've got some of them here. 00:20:31.03\00:20:32.98 Just little things I pick up that just relax me 00:20:33.01\00:20:35.72 that can sit on my desk at work. 00:20:35.75\00:20:37.35 This is a little stress ball. 00:20:37.38\00:20:39.58 There are all kinds of stress balls and you take it, 00:20:39.61\00:20:41.35 and just play with it at work. Let me see that... 00:20:41.38\00:20:45.10 Here's an herbal tea, a stress tea that my wife just loves. 00:20:45.13\00:20:49.00 That doesn't look like a stress tea. 00:20:49.03\00:20:51.06 It's a stress tea, it's an herbal tea. 00:20:51.09\00:20:52.46 Better get a close-up of that. I don't know if it works. 00:20:52.49\00:20:55.00 But even just the thought of it, 00:20:55.03\00:20:56.56 you know... you're drinking a stress tea! 00:20:56.59\00:20:58.14 My wife loves the stress tea here. 00:20:58.17\00:20:59.68 This does say, "Rx Stress Relief Elixir" 00:20:59.72\00:21:02.52 on the bottle... Actually it does! 00:21:02.56\00:21:05.70 And this is a back rubber. 00:21:05.74\00:21:07.46 You rub this up and down on your back, 00:21:07.49\00:21:09.82 and it really is quite... Someone gave this to me 00:21:09.85\00:21:11.68 at the end of a seminar that we did, 00:21:11.71\00:21:13.32 and it really is VERY comfortable. 00:21:13.35\00:21:14.84 I didn't even know how to use it but in one of my last seminars, 00:21:14.88\00:21:17.11 somebody taught me how to use this and it's wonderful. 00:21:17.15\00:21:19.51 Excellent! Are these gifts for the host? 00:21:19.54\00:21:22.75 They're not gifts for the host. 00:21:22.78\00:21:25.15 They are demonstrations. 00:21:25.18\00:21:26.55 There are all kinds of cards... 00:21:26.58\00:21:29.08 Here's one... "The best things in life aren't things" 00:21:29.11\00:21:32.37 And you just put a few of these things around on your... 00:21:32.40\00:21:34.59 "I know God won't give me anything I can't handle, 00:21:34.62\00:21:36.82 I just wish He didn't trust me so much. " 00:21:36.85\00:21:38.49 Mother Teresa either wrote that or she actually said that 00:21:38.52\00:21:41.51 but that was a card that came that way. 00:21:41.54\00:21:43.26 So these are kind of a little humorous antidotes 00:21:43.29\00:21:45.37 that make you just put things in perspective. Yeah 00:21:45.40\00:21:47.15 Somebody in one of my seminars, 00:21:47.18\00:21:50.01 in a little show-and-tell time we had, 00:21:50.04\00:21:51.73 came up with just a little post-it thing. 00:21:51.76\00:21:54.52 So how did that help you sleep? 00:21:54.55\00:21:55.92 Well, she puts this by her bedside 00:21:55.95\00:21:57.40 because she gets ideas in the middle of the night sometimes. 00:21:57.43\00:21:59.72 And she puts this by her bedside with a pen, 00:21:59.75\00:22:01.98 and she can even, in the dark, just write enough 00:22:02.01\00:22:05.15 to be able to read it the next morning, 00:22:05.18\00:22:06.73 then she can just turn off that idea and go to sleep 00:22:06.76\00:22:08.47 instead of laying there hoping she remembers it 00:22:08.50\00:22:10.57 by morning time. Excellent idea! 00:22:10.60\00:22:12.48 Here was a little something that we got at our church 00:22:12.51\00:22:18.01 It's a free sample card and it was one of these 00:22:18.04\00:22:23.32 ...It sounds like they personalized it but it says, 00:22:23.35\00:22:26.26 "Dear Pioneer Memorial Church: 00:22:26.29\00:22:27.90 We haven't a clue as to why you haven't sent for your 00:22:27.93\00:22:30.77 free sample pair of Silkies 00:22:30.80\00:22:32.30 Panty Hose, Mrs. Pioneer Memorial Church" 00:22:32.33\00:22:35.83 And they say they've got our size 00:22:35.86\00:22:37.87 and everything - so it's written to the church. 00:22:37.90\00:22:39.33 So this is a stress reliever because it was humorous. 00:22:39.36\00:22:42.90 It's humorous, that's exactly right. 00:22:42.93\00:22:44.41 It's just a little something, a little device! 00:22:44.44\00:22:47.56 Have you ever seen the manatees? Yeah! 00:22:47.59\00:22:49.84 They're absolutely wonderful. 00:22:49.87\00:22:51.32 They're like huge elephants in the sea. 00:22:51.35\00:22:53.80 Down at Sea World of San Diego, 00:22:53.83\00:22:55.58 we saw the manatees and just watching them 00:22:55.61\00:22:58.06 just drained stress out of my life, 00:22:58.09\00:22:59.60 so we bought this little thing, I put it on my desk; 00:22:59.63\00:23:01.43 when I look at that, I tell you what, if it's in a tense time, 00:23:01.47\00:23:04.17 you just feel the stress draining out of you. 00:23:04.20\00:23:06.22 Look at those eyes, don't those look beautiful? 00:23:06.25\00:23:09.76 I don't know if this is going to work for you folks, 00:23:09.79\00:23:11.29 but... 00:23:11.32\00:23:12.69 I love this, we picked this up at 00:23:12.72\00:23:14.91 Union Station in Washington, DC 00:23:14.94\00:23:16.46 It has the most relaxing colors; it's a kaleidoscope, 00:23:16.49\00:23:19.77 and it's the most beautiful colors... 00:23:19.80\00:23:21.24 And you get in a tense time, you pick that up 00:23:21.27\00:23:23.63 and just sit back for a couple of minutes and relax... 00:23:23.66\00:23:27.73 It's wonderful, it does wonderful things for you. 00:23:27.76\00:23:29.46 I'll be back with you in a minute. 00:23:29.49\00:23:31.16 These are some stress-reducing videos - Moody Bible Institute. 00:23:31.19\00:23:35.08 They've got wonderful ones here at 3ABN as well. 00:23:35.11\00:23:38.44 And one of my favorites is what they call a "stress pencil" 00:23:38.47\00:23:41.48 I ordered it out of a magazine one time. 00:23:41.51\00:23:43.05 You're in the middle of a tense meeting and you pull out 00:23:43.08\00:23:45.09 your stress pencil... It actually says on it 00:23:45.12\00:23:46.49 "My stress pencil" and on the other end, 00:23:46.52\00:23:48.60 it's got a little something... a pacifier! 00:23:48.63\00:23:52.41 So there are all kinds of fun relaxation devices 00:23:52.44\00:23:55.26 you can use to help lower the stress levels at serious times. 00:23:55.29\00:23:58.29 I've got to say that this is probably a first 00:23:58.32\00:23:59.88 on "Health for a Lifetime" 00:23:59.91\00:24:01.28 These are very helpful ideas. 00:24:01.31\00:24:03.50 So relaxation devices, anything else? 00:24:03.53\00:24:07.50 I mean, could there be anything else after this? 00:24:07.53\00:24:09.53 Well Don, the real key is... What relaxes you? 00:24:09.56\00:24:13.24 Do you know what relaxes you? I do 00:24:13.27\00:24:15.76 And do you do it? Yes I do... That's perfect! 00:24:15.79\00:24:18.17 And everybody has to ask 00:24:19.12\00:24:20.49 that question... What is it that relaxes me? 00:24:20.52\00:24:22.17 We did a little remodeling here a while back, 00:24:22.20\00:24:24.13 and my wife got herself a Jacuzzi bathtub. 00:24:24.16\00:24:26.85 She absolutely LOVES it. 00:24:26.88\00:24:28.34 And she's in that thing every night. 00:24:28.37\00:24:30.07 She spends maybe 20 minutes in that thing every night 00:24:30.10\00:24:32.42 just relaxing. 00:24:32.45\00:24:33.82 She has a high-stress job in her work. 00:24:33.85\00:24:36.42 Another thing we put in that I didn't know I was 00:24:36.45\00:24:38.48 going to like so much is a gas log fireplace. 00:24:38.51\00:24:41.48 They make them now so beautiful, they look like real logs. 00:24:41.51\00:24:44.66 It's not like the old gas log fireplace. 00:24:44.69\00:24:46.37 I didn't think I was going to like it, but you know what? 00:24:46.40\00:24:49.12 Every night when I come home in the winter 00:24:49.15\00:24:50.88 or as soon as it gets cool enough 00:24:50.91\00:24:52.80 I turn that thing on the first thing when I get home 00:24:52.83\00:24:54.92 I turn it on the first thing in the morning, 00:24:54.95\00:24:56.32 and I just sit there and read. 00:24:56.35\00:24:57.72 I just absolutely love that gas log fireplace. 00:24:57.75\00:24:59.61 So what relaxes you and then do it. 00:24:59.64\00:25:01.33 Anything that relaxes you except it can't be harmful to you, 00:25:01.36\00:25:03.86 it can't be comfort foods or something like that. Right! 00:25:03.89\00:25:06.00 It needs to be something that's along with the 7 Keys 00:25:06.03\00:25:09.24 you've been talking about in the Beyond Coping Seminar. Exactly 00:25:09.27\00:25:13.28 You have down here the Serenity Prayer. 00:25:13.31\00:25:16.54 Don, the Serenity Prayer is SO awesome! 00:25:16.57\00:25:19.35 I've had people tell me several weeks into our seminar 00:25:19.38\00:25:22.77 ...our stress seminar that they weren't sleeping 00:25:22.80\00:25:25.54 before they came but now they are. 00:25:25.57\00:25:27.01 And it's amazing to me the power the Serenity Prayer has. 00:25:27.04\00:25:30.94 One lady told me, I just repeat the Serenity Prayer to me 00:25:30.97\00:25:34.46 every night before I go to bed. 00:25:34.49\00:25:35.86 The Serenity Prayer - when people ask me, 00:25:35.89\00:25:38.34 "Give me one idea, just one idea" 00:25:38.37\00:25:39.90 They hear I do something on stress and they say, 00:25:39.93\00:25:41.30 "Give me one idea on stress" 00:25:41.33\00:25:42.70 I always start with the Serenity Prayer. 00:25:42.73\00:25:44.16 When someone comes to me under a lot of stress, 00:25:44.19\00:25:46.64 and they want some help, get some ideas, 00:25:46.67\00:25:48.54 and some counsel or something, 00:25:48.57\00:25:49.94 and I listen to their story... 00:25:49.97\00:25:51.78 One of the first things I do, after I assess the resources 00:25:51.81\00:25:55.01 that they have available to them, 00:25:55.04\00:25:56.41 is try to apply the Serenity Prayer. 00:25:56.44\00:25:57.91 The Serenity Prayer is very simple. 00:25:57.94\00:25:59.65 Many people know it, it simply goes like this... 00:25:59.68\00:26:02.17 And so many people, Don, are wearing themselves out 00:26:13.13\00:26:16.89 fighting against things they cannot change; 00:26:16.92\00:26:19.65 struggling against those things; 00:26:19.68\00:26:21.21 trying to change things they cannot change. 00:26:21.24\00:26:22.74 They're dissipating their energies. 00:26:22.77\00:26:24.35 They have no energy left to work on the things 00:26:24.38\00:26:26.80 they really can do something about... 00:26:26.83\00:26:28.26 which often are internal things. 00:26:28.29\00:26:31.30 And the Serenity Prayer is not a VOW we make or 00:26:31.33\00:26:37.06 a strong commitment where we grit our teeth 00:26:37.09\00:26:39.51 I'm going to accept the things I cannot change... 00:26:39.54\00:26:41.61 I'm going to be tough here! No 00:26:41.64\00:26:43.09 It's releasing those things. It's a prayer. 00:26:43.12\00:26:45.31 We release them into the hands 00:26:45.34\00:26:47.27 of somebody who can do something about them. 00:26:47.30\00:26:49.47 And just rest in that; we have confidence in that. 00:26:49.50\00:26:52.25 Maybe what we can do is very small. 00:26:52.28\00:26:54.52 The little change we can make is small. 00:26:54.55\00:26:57.21 But concentrating on the change we can make 00:26:57.24\00:26:59.45 and then focusing on that; continuing to pray that prayer; 00:26:59.48\00:27:02.87 continuing to ask God to help us know the difference 00:27:02.90\00:27:06.47 between what we can change and what we can't change 00:27:06.50\00:27:08.72 can bring such peace and such deep relaxation that 00:27:08.75\00:27:12.05 really brings the whole concept of relaxation 00:27:12.08\00:27:13.89 into another whole realm. 00:27:13.92\00:27:15.62 So in your seminar it probably helps them get the 00:27:15.65\00:27:17.94 wisdom to know the difference. 00:27:17.97\00:27:19.41 Well, that's one of the things we do work on, yes. 00:27:19.44\00:27:22.51 And this seminar, by the way, is available through the 00:27:22.54\00:27:24.21 Health Ministries Department of the General Conference. 00:27:24.24\00:27:26.76 We've been talking with Dr. Skip MacCarty 00:27:26.79\00:27:29.96 He has written a new seminar called, "Stress Beyond Coping" 00:27:29.99\00:27:33.65 As a result, he was given a fellowship with the 00:27:33.68\00:27:37.12 "American Institute of Stress" 00:27:37.15\00:27:39.11 and has really gone around the country 00:27:39.14\00:27:41.06 sharing these concepts with others. 00:27:41.09\00:27:42.63 We hope that this material has been a blessing to you, 00:27:42.66\00:27:45.18 and that as a result of today's program, you can find fun ways 00:27:45.21\00:27:48.55 to relax and that you can make that a priority in your daily 00:27:48.58\00:27:52.63 schedule and that you'll have 00:27:52.66\00:27:54.03 Health that Lasts for a Lifetime! 00:27:54.06\00:27:56.04