Hello and welcome to
"Health for a Lifetime"
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I'm your host Don Mackintosh
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and today I'm delighted to
have Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel
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with us... Welcome
doctor! Thank you very much, Don
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Now, I know that you're a
doctor of internal medicine
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which means that you just treat
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diseases, not with
surgical means, but you're a
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medical doctor;
you've worked in ICU, CCU,
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all different types of
intensive situations... Yes
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But now, you're
kind of focusing more on
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"PREVENTIVE MEDICINE"
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Yes, and lifestyle approaches to
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treating diseases
and preventing diseases.
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What are some of the
things that you see a lot of?
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We see a lot of people
with diabetes, heart disease,
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high blood pressure,
people who are overweight
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and challenged by that,
people with arthritis...
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But the most of all
focus at the Lifestyle Center
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is on the first 4
things that I mentioned,
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the diabetes in particular,
along with heart disease,
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high blood
pressure and overweight.
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Okay, if you are interested
in getting in touch with
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The Lifestyle Center of America,
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or with Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel
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and the others
on the staff there,
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let me give you a web page that
you can think of or remember.
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It's very easy to remember, it's
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www. lifestylecenter. org
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And you can call about
most of the information
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about the Center on
that, can't you? Yes
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And then also, people
can contact us here at 3ABN,
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and we can let them know
how to get in touch with you.
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We want to talk today
about what you've entitled...
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"sweet-blood, sour-deal"
What's that all about?
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Well, part of the
problem with diabetes is that
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if you were to TASTE the blood
or the urine of somebody with
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HIGH blood sugar, hyperglycemia,
it would be sweet.
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It would be sweeter
than it should be... however
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I don't think we want to taste
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the blood. No, we're
not going to do that.
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Didn't they used to
taste their urine...
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They used to taste urine
in the past, that's correct.
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See, a doctor's job has
gotten a lot easier, hasn't it?
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I would say so, in that respect!
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At least a little
bit more sanitary, right?
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Okay, so with diabetes
then there's too much sugar
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then being spilled into the
urine and too much in the blood.
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Too much sugar in the
blood and this is a sour deal,
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because it affects just about
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EVERY organ and
every system in the body.
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Let's just define then...
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We've kind of defined already,
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but what exactly is
dia-betes? What does that mean?
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Well, the old term "diabetes"
came into existence because
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first and foremost,
diabetes means "siphon"
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"mellitus" the whole
word is "diabetes mellitus"
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"mellitus" means honey-like.
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So it was because the
urine was sweet and because the
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bees would go after urine
from people who had diabetes,
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it got that name.
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"Siphon" of course, because
the person would eat and drink
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more than usual and they would
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go the bathroom and urinate
much more than usual as well.
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So it was as if
things were coming in,
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and passing out like a siphon.
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Polydipsia,
polyuria, and polyphasia...
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Yes, those are the "Greek" terms
if you will... 3 P's - Right!
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So diabetes then - are people
really familiar with what it is
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since it's a BIG
killer in America?
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Well you know, interestingly,
we have some people who are
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very
knowledgeable about diabetes,
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but we have also a large number
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of people who
are very unfamiliar.
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They don't know
very much about it;
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they're just afraid of it.
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I had one patient, not a patient
actually, a person call up
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at the center,
desiring information,
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and the person insisted
that they talk to me about this
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very important issue.
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In trying to get at what
the person's concern was,
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she had a good friend
who would carpool with them
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...that carpooled together,
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and the friend recently had
gotten the diagnosis of diabetes
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This lady who was
calling, had not seen her friend
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in 6 weeks - she had
avoided her for 6 weeks
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because she was unsure
as to whether this diabetes
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could be passed on to her where
there was a contagious disease.
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Now this is probably the most
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extreme question that I
have received in a long time,
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but what it says to me is
that there are many people who
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even if they have exposure to
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people or friends or
family members with diabetes,
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may not know very
much about it at all.
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Right! So it's not an infectious
contagious disease. It is not!
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It's a disease that has
to do with what we DO...
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I mean, you can
catch some habits that
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ultimately could lead to it,
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but it's not
something you can get by someone
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who has sneezed on you or
something like that. Right
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Now there's not only one kind
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of diabetes, I ought
to put that in here...
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There are 2 major
kinds; #1, we call type 1,
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and the other one type 2.
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Type 1 is the kind that is
encountered most frequently
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in folks who are younger,
that is less than age 40.
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It's usually associated with
the obligatory use of insulin.
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Whereas, type 2 diabetes
tends to be in people who
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are over age 45 and
who, at the beginning
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of their illness at least,
don't need insulin at all.
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Many of them are actually
producing too much insulin,
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and they're overweight!
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Now what I hear is that with
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even type 1,
there's good news today.
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I heard recently
of a study that says,
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they can go into the
pancreas and actually put
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new cells in there that can
produce insulin - is that true?
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That's not exactly
the way you described it.
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But they can
harvest cells from cadavers,
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that's people who have died,
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take those cells out and
inject them into people with
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type 1 diabetes and they
can set up a new population
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of insulin-producing
cells in that person
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and use... Is it
still experimental?
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Well, it's not really
experimental in the sense that
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we've been doing this kind
of thing now for several years.
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But recently there
was a breakthrough...
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#1, in the harvesting technique
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and the second, was that we're
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now using
antirejection medications
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that are not steroids.
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You see the
steroids, themselves,
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have a lot of side effects,
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and one of the side
effects of the steroids is
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increasing the blood sugar.
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So we're doing
better with regard to
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the techniques for harvesting,
techniques for reimplantation
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and techniques and medications
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for putting the
immune system at rest.
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We have treatments after
it happens but the best thing
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by far is to avoid
it if at all possible.
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If at all possible
and type 2 diabetes
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is largely a
preventable disease.
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About 95% of the
people who have diabetes
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have type 2 diabetes.
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There is a genetic component,
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but the genes appear to
just load the gun, so-to-speak.
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How we live is
what pulls the trigger.
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But what about
like say even type 1...
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Let's say that you are a
mother, you're carrying a child,
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how can you make sure that
your children don't get diabetes
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or have diabetes?
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Is it a large
problem with children,
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and how can we help them avoid
even beginning life with it?
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Well one of the things
that we recognize is that
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there is this genetic
component for type 1 diabetes,
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but there are some
factors that predispose
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a child who has the genetic
tendency to GET type 1 diabetes.
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There are some infections from
viruses such as the mumps virus,
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or Coxsackie virus
which is another virus...
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These 2 infections actually
have been associated with
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an increased risk
of type 1 diabetes.
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Additionally, there was 1
study very recently that showed
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early vaccinations
with hepatitis B vaccine
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may be associated with
development of type 1 diabetes.
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So careful about
when you get this.
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...About when you
get the vaccination.
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Additionally, we have
the connection between
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type 1 diabetes and
cow's milk consumption.
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In this association,
what we find is that there is,
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epidemiologically... that's
if you look at populations,
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there is an association
between the use of cow's milk
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and the development
of type 1 diabetes...
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And the individuals
with the type 1 diabetes
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seem to have antibodies against
one of the cow's milk proteins.
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Fights against
their own pancreas... Yes
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So, there are things we can do
before children are even born,
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and certainly
afterwards in terms of this area
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of cow's milk and
different things. Yes
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Okay, then let's say
though we have developed it...
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Let's say that early-on
in age, someone develops it
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and it's type 2 we're talking
about now, if that's the case...
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What can we do... well maybe
this is the way to put it -
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What are other risk factors
that have to do with diabetes?
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For type 2 diabetes,
the risk factors include:
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Your age - if you are over
45, you have an increased risk.
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There you are!
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I'm no where even near that!
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If you're overweight,
you have an increased risk.
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If you have high blood pressure,
you have an increased risk.
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If you have a first
degree family member...
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that is mother,
father, sister brother,
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if they have type 2
diabetes, then you have
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an increased risk of
developing type 2 diabetes.
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Goes to uncles and
aunts? Yes it does,
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but that association
is less strong than the
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first degree family member.
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Additionally, for a woman, if
she had diabetes while she was
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pregnant, she has
increased risk of developing
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diabetes later on and
the child apparently has an
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increased risk of developing
diabetes during its life.
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Gestational diabetes, so-called.
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Gestational
diabetes for the mother.
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But it doesn't even have to
be gestational diabetes per se
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in that if the mother,
while she was pregnant,
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actually when she delivered,
the baby was over 9 pounds,
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she has an increased
risk of developing diabetes,
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and the child probably
has an increased risk as well.
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So the weight of the
baby at the time of birth,
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over 9 pounds, is an
indicator that the mother
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would have
increased risk later on.
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So mothers shouldn't be
out there eating anything
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they want to eat and
feeding their sweet-tooth.
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That's correct... because
if what it means is that they
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push themselves over the edge
if they have a predilection to
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developing
diabetes in the first place,
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and the extra weight and other
factors push them over the edge
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such that their blood
sugar goes up during pregnancy,
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well, this would not
be a good thing for the
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mother or for the baby.
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Other risk factors?
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Those are about the major ones.
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People who smoke
have an increased risk of
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insulin resistance.
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We mentioned being overweight,
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and, of course, there
are some ethnic factors.
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There's this problem or this
process of insulin resistance
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that our genes and our
ethnicity seem to carry.
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The people of
Native American descent,
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or if you have Native
American blood, in this country
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you probably have the highest
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risk of having
insulin resistance.
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But then, that is followed
by people of Hispanic origin
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regardless of what
race they might be...
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and then that's followed
by people of African origin,
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and then
Asian-Pacific and Asian-Island,
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as they have the
next highest risk,
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followed by people
of European ancestry.
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Oh, so this is for
insulin resistance...
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It's not that the
body is not MAKING insulin,
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but that it just
can't get in the cell.
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Well, the body is
making insulin... you're right,
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but you need more insulin
to produce the same effect
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if you are insulin-resistant
than if you were normal.
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Okay, so it does really
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Okay, so it does
really matter who you are.
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Now, diabetes, is
it a real BAD disease?
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What does it do to your system?
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What does it do to your body?
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What does it do to your organs?
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What does it do to your...
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In a nutshell, people
with diabetes AGE a lot faster
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than someone without diabetes.
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So ALL of the degenerative
processes that you can think of
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are probably going to be
affected by the fact that
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you have high sugar in
your blood and diabetes. WHY?
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Part of it is
related to what we call...
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"glycosylation end products"
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Now, I know you...
Glycosylation end products!
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I'm going to use that
now every time I go out.
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The thing is... the
sugar attaches to our proteins,
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and it causes the proteins
to not have the same flexibility
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and the same ability that
the proteins otherwise would.
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THAT causes premature aging
of just about every tissue.
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So if it affects
the eyes, for instance,
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we have an increased risk
of what we call retinopathy
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or we also have an increased
risk of cataract formation...
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by different
mechanisms by the way,
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and we also have an increased
risk of having glaucoma...
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all of which are related to
the fact that you have diabetes.
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It can affect
the nervous system;
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you can end up with
peripheral neuropathy...
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Where you can't feel things,
touch things... Where you can't
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feel things or you
have pain in the legs,
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or numbness, tingling.
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It can affect
the feet, the hands;
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it can affect
one side of the body;
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it can affect the abdomen,
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as well as it can
affect the internal organs
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such as the heart and
the gastrointestinal tract.
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Does it do
anything to your mind?
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There is a process that
we call "diabetic dementia"
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People who have had
poorly controlled blood sugars
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over a period of
time, they can end up with
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dementing illnesses
much like Alzheimer disease.
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Also in people who are prone
to having frequent bouts of
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hypoglycemia.
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If the blood sugar
stays too low for too long,
00:14:12.38\00:14:15.86
these individuals can end up
00:14:15.89\00:14:17.70
with some
irreversible brain damage.
00:14:17.73\00:14:20.39
We're talking with
Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel
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We're talking about diabetes.
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If you have it or
know someone that does,
00:14:24.35\00:14:25.97
you might want
to give them a call
00:14:26.00\00:14:27.16
and have them tune
in when we come back.
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Have you found
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00:14:31.44\00:14:33.10
shed a few pounds?
00:14:33.13\00:14:34.66
Have you been on a
diet for most of your life,
00:14:34.69\00:14:36.77
but not found anything that
will really keep the weight off
00:14:36.80\00:14:39.72
If you've answered "yes"
to any of these questions,
00:14:39.75\00:14:42.62
then we have a
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Welcome back!
We've been talking with
00:15:32.12\00:15:33.72
Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel
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We've been talking about
sweet blood but a sour deal...
00:15:35.39\00:15:39.56
But we want to talk about some
00:15:39.59\00:15:40.77
good news about diabetes
now, don't we? How to treat it.
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You know, you work at The
Lifestyle Center of America;
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you are a specialist
in internal medicine;
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deal with diabetics a lot;
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you've written
papers and done research
00:15:50.85\00:15:53.46
in the area of syndrome X
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...That's the diabetes
plus all these other diseases
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and how they come together to
really cause a real bad problem.
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"X" marks the spot
kind of a bad problem.
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But you know, now that
we get into the situation of
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type 2 diabetes - let's leave
type 1 alone for a while...
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What do you do to treat
that where you now are there
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at the Lifestyle
Center, what's your protocol?
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How can people have
hope that have that disease?
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Well, you know, the
approach that we use at the
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Lifestyle Center is really
an approach that ANYBODY can use
00:16:20.89\00:16:25.12
at home; physicians
can use in their office,
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or you can
apply it in a hospital
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or lifestyle centers like ours.
00:16:31.74\00:16:33.98
So this is not something
that is proprietary to us.
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It's something that is available
to anybody to be able to use.
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We start off looking
at first things first.
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To understand and
treat any chronic disease,
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you need to pay attention
to the fact that what you eat,
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what you do, what you
take are all important.
00:16:49.85\00:16:54.06
So the eating
has to do with food,
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the doing has to do with
physical activity and exercise,
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taking has to do with
everything from supplements
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to herbs to medications,
etcetera, the whole picture.
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And these things intersect
in a very important part...
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Okay, all of them intersect
in the center on who you are.
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Because if I were to
show you the BEST diet,
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the BEST things to
eat, the RIGHT quantities,
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everything like that,
and I were to show you
00:17:20.68\00:17:22.97
the BEST exercise
program and give you all the
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information and all the
equipment and all that stuff,
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and have a personal trainer
with you 24 hours a day...
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And give you the BEST
herbs vitamins, minerals,
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you know, all that stuff...
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But you don't want to do
it, you don't want to take it,
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you don't want to go along
with the program, guess what?
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It doesn't matter, it's
not going to do you any good.
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You can lead a horse to water
but you CANNOT make him drink!
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So basically,
people when they understand
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that what we're dealing
with is changing your lifestyle
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and have the
lifestyle IMPACT the disease,
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and whether you're going
to have the complications of
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the disease, the light
bulb goes off and they say,
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"Ah ha, NOW I understand. "
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Because it's not just like
taking a pill to put a band aid
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over a cut... Or a shot
to take care of the problem.
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It's HOW you live that's going
to determine, to a large extent,
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particularly when
we find people who are
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early in the
course of their disease,
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or who are at the brink of
kind of going over the fence
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to full-blown
diabetes, then these individuals
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are MOST able to be
helped with their lifestyle
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even though EVERYBODY
with diabetes, including
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type 1 diabetes, can be helped
by changing their lifestyle.
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Now, a very important component
is, of course, the food aspect.
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Here are some of the
issues with regard to food...
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First and
foremost, carbohydrates,
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despite the hype that we
might read from time to time
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that carbohydrates are a bad
thing for people with diabetes
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and for people with
weight problems and so on...
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This is really
not fully the case.
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While people can be helped by
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other kinds of dietary programs,
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having a diet
that is rich in fiber,
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rich in complex carbohydrates.
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This IS actually the mainstay
of the treatment of diabetes,
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and it allows for such
things to occur as people taking
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LOTS and LOTS of
insulin, large doses of insulin,
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100, 200, 300
units of insulin a day
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coming down to ZERO
units of insulin a day
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with BETTER blood sugar control
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by just making some
little changes in this area.
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So complex carbohydrates
- what would those be?
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If I have a choice between
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apples and apple
juice, which should I have?
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Well, you should
have the whole apple!
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The way I put it, is
when it comes to fruits,
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fruits are GOOD.
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Some people are
more sensitive to
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one kind of fruit or another,
00:19:45.03\00:19:46.43
but if you're looking at
fruits, concentrated fruits,
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fruit juices, etcetera,
the rule of thumb is the fruit,
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the whole fruit and
nothing but the fruit!
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That works out best!
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The fruit, the whole
fruit and nothing but the fruit!
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Okay, so in other words,
because if it's a liquid form
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or whatever, it drives
the blood sugar up higher...
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And even if the person
responds appropriately,
00:20:06.70\00:20:09.34
and produces a
good output of insulin,
00:20:09.37\00:20:11.94
then they tend to go
LOWER than they should,
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and the person gets hungry
and they want to eat more.
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So the issue of food is a very
important one with diabetes.
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The one issue is, of course,
the carbohydrate content.
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The other major issue is
actually the content of FAT.
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If people have a lot of
saturated fat in their diet,
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they are increasing their
own resistance to insulin.
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How does that work?
00:20:36.60\00:20:37.59
How it works is -
essentially think of the fat as
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clogging up the
works inside the cell.
00:20:40.09\00:20:42.38
Now, scientists
around the world are actually
00:20:42.41\00:20:44.57
looking at what
these mechanisms are...
00:20:44.60\00:20:46.39
How does saturated
fat actually do this?
00:20:46.42\00:20:48.57
And, we have some exciting
lines of inquiry going on...
00:20:48.60\00:20:53.26
But suffice it to say,
most people don't need to
00:20:53.29\00:20:55.54
know all of the
details of how this works.
00:20:55.55\00:20:58.00
They need to know
that sat-fat is BAD-fat.
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Sat-fat is BAD-fat!
See how easy that is?
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The whole fruit and
nothing but the fruit.
00:21:04.13\00:21:07.17
Right, the fruit, the whole
fruit and nothing but the fruit
00:21:07.20\00:21:09.37
And sat-fat is
bad-fat. That's right!
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Simple things!
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Moving along to cholesterol...
00:21:11.98\00:21:15.89
You see, most people
with diabetes end up dying
00:21:15.92\00:21:19.31
not because of the
high blood sugar...
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They end up dying because of
cardiovascular complications.
00:21:21.29\00:21:24.35
They end up with a
heart attack or stroke,
00:21:24.38\00:21:26.13
or some
combination of these things.
00:21:26.16\00:21:27.41
Because ALL their arteries
and vessels are shot. Exactly!
00:21:27.44\00:21:30.11
SO, we want to be able to
00:21:30.14\00:21:32.84
PREVENT some of
the complications,
00:21:32.87\00:21:34.35
some of the vascular
complications of diabetes.
00:21:34.38\00:21:37.83
So, we would want
to limit the amount of
00:21:37.86\00:21:40.12
cholesterol and
certainly the amount of
00:21:40.16\00:21:41.41
oxidized cholesterol
that the person would get.
00:21:41.44\00:21:43.71
But doctor, this sounds no fun.
00:21:43.74\00:21:45.06
What about all my
good foods I like to eat?
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Well, we have to look at
what you're calling good foods.
00:21:46.76\00:21:49.93
Because, we have been sold
a bill of goods, so-to-speak,
00:21:49.96\00:21:54.72
and it's that
sweet-blood sour-deal
00:21:54.75\00:21:57.13
We've been sold
a bill of goods...
00:21:57.16\00:21:58.95
If you were to ask
someone what are the "goodies"
00:21:58.98\00:22:02.47
that they eat, they'll
tell you all of the things
00:22:02.48\00:22:04.80
that actually cause a
lot of disease and actually
00:22:04.83\00:22:07.18
produce a lot of suffering in
00:22:07.21\00:22:09.23
the United States
and around the world.
00:22:09.26\00:22:11.69
We call them "goodies"
00:22:11.72\00:22:13.30
Well, no, really
they should be BADDIES!
00:22:13.33\00:22:16.73
These baddies such as the high
sugar, the high saturated fat,
00:22:16.76\00:22:20.07
the high cholesterol, the rich
calorie-laden empty foods...
00:22:20.10\00:22:26.57
Well these things
AREN'T any good for us.
00:22:26.58\00:22:29.48
Now, does that mean that
the way you eat to be healthy,
00:22:29.51\00:22:34.02
needs to be
tasteless and joyless?
00:22:34.03\00:22:36.36
The answer is ABSOLUTELY NOT!
00:22:36.39\00:22:38.30
You know, what we have
found at the Lifestyle Center,
00:22:38.33\00:22:41.33
and what people know
from just their existence...
00:22:41.34\00:22:44.31
if the food doesn't look good,
00:22:44.34\00:22:45.71
if it doesn't taste
good, if it doesn't smell good,
00:22:45.75\00:22:47.76
if it doesn't seem as
if it's going to be good...
00:22:47.79\00:22:49.77
Probably is not good...
00:22:49.80\00:22:51.07
Probably is not good,
people are not going to eat it.
00:22:51.10\00:22:53.25
So, a wide variety of
fruits, grains, vegetables,
00:22:53.28\00:22:57.01
legumes and
nuts, WELL-PREPARED...
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some raw, some cooked, some
prepared in various fashions...
00:23:00.40\00:23:03.53
These things actually present to
the individual the BEST choice
00:23:03.56\00:23:09.44
in terms of food and
nutrition for the treatment
00:23:09.47\00:23:12.78
of diabetes and for
the prevention of diabetes
00:23:12.81\00:23:15.19
and also for the prevention of
the complications of diabetes.
00:23:15.22\00:23:18.02
SO, you give them cookbooks,
you give them different things
00:23:18.05\00:23:21.29
that they can use
there. That's correct
00:23:21.30\00:23:23.11
And you show them how to do
it? We show them how to do them.
00:23:23.14\00:23:24.22
We have a cooking
school, cooking classes that
00:23:25.06\00:23:28.60
are conducted 5 days a week
00:23:28.63\00:23:30.63
while they are there.
What if they can't get there?
00:23:30.67\00:23:32.56
What if they have...
00:23:32.59\00:23:34.24
Well you know, around the
country various organizations
00:23:34.27\00:23:37.23
and various people have
cooking schools that they
00:23:37.24\00:23:40.05
might put on either in
public buildings or at churches
00:23:40.08\00:23:44.53
and synagogues around
the country that teach people
00:23:44.56\00:23:47.22
how to prepare meals
for people with diabetes.
00:23:47.25\00:23:49.56
Now here's the thing,
there IS no "diabetic diet"
00:23:49.59\00:23:54.35
REALLY, a person with diabetes
needs to have a GOOD diet
00:23:54.38\00:23:59.09
and that same good
wholesome diet is actually
00:23:59.10\00:24:03.05
the same good wholesome
diet for ANY and EVERYBODY.
00:24:03.08\00:24:06.59
So there's only one
right answer. That's correct!
00:24:06.62\00:24:09.20
And that's food as
grown. Foods as grown...
00:24:09.23\00:24:12.66
You see, you have
the whole system...
00:24:12.69\00:24:15.07
If it doesn't grow on a tree,
00:24:15.10\00:24:16.48
you have to come up
with a better answer. Right?
00:24:16.51\00:24:19.60
The refined foods tend to cause
the blood sugar to go HIGHER
00:24:19.61\00:24:25.45
than the foods
the way God made them.
00:24:25.48\00:24:30.99
I have a long family history
of diabetes in my family,
00:24:31.02\00:24:35.92
none in my nuclear family,
but my uncles, great uncles,
00:24:35.95\00:24:39.25
and grandfather and
different things on one side,
00:24:39.28\00:24:42.32
that family seems to have a lot.
00:24:42.35\00:24:44.53
Some of my relatives and
some others I've met before,
00:24:44.54\00:24:47.60
they are not
out of the ordinary,
00:24:47.63\00:24:50.06
have actually said,
"Well, I don't even want to KNOW
00:24:50.09\00:24:52.68
whether or not I have it
and they just don't even...
00:24:52.69\00:24:54.74
they act like they don't have it
00:24:54.77\00:24:56.28
regardless of if
they do or don't.
00:24:57.07\00:24:58.54
Is this a good idea
or a plan or why not?
00:24:58.57\00:25:01.32
That's not a good plan.
00:25:01.35\00:25:02.78
You know what it's like?
00:25:02.81\00:25:04.02
It's like sitting
on the railroad track,
00:25:04.05\00:25:06.71
hearing someone tell you
that at 6:30 there is a speeding
00:25:06.74\00:25:11.03
train that's going to
come down the track...
00:25:11.06\00:25:12.76
And you look
around... it's now 6:25,
00:25:12.79\00:25:15.23
you say, "I don't see
anything, I don't hear anything,
00:25:15.26\00:25:17.42
I'm going to sit here,
I'm going to just be here. "
00:25:17.45\00:25:20.82
"If it comes, it comes"
00:25:20.85\00:25:22.57
Now does that sound
like a smart thing to do? No
00:25:22.60\00:25:25.43
No, because at 6:30,
what's going to happen?
00:25:25.46\00:25:28.04
SPLAT! All right
00:25:28.07\00:25:30.46
Now, the issue with
diabetes, the GOOD news is that
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diabetes, in LARGE
part, can be avoided.
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So someone who has a
risk, a high risk of developing
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diabetes, really should
be paying much more attention
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to living a more optimal
life to avoid the diabetes
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and avoid the complications
and avoid the NEEDLESS suffering
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that they will
have because of it.
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Now diabetes does not
just affect the person,
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diabetes affects the family!
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Many people don't
understand this...
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What they think is...
"Well, I'm the master of
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my own destiny here, see
I can do whatever I want,
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and everything is fine. "
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But you know, that same
person, after they get diabetes,
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and they have the
complications, they go blind,
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who is going to
take care of them?
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That's right, it could
be actually selfishness
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if they don't take
care of it. That's correct
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Similarly, they
don't do anything,
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their blood pressure goes
up, so they have diabetes,
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high blood
pressure, they are overweight,
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they get a stroke... Right?
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It's ONE thing if you
get a stroke and you die...
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it's another thing if you get
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a stroke and you LIVE
and you're paralyzed...
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You lose your coping
and your ability to think.
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Is there good news at The
Lifestyle Center of America
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when you treat people, what
happens - in our last minute
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What we see is their
blood sugars come down,
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their medication USE comes down,
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their insulin,
oftentimes, comes down for
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type 2 diabetes or
goes off completely.
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We have people whose
cholesterol comes down,
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their triglycerides come down,
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their
cardiovascular risks come down,
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their JOY OF LIVING goes UP!
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And they do better, they
feel better, they feel great!
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And their family
feels better. Oh YES!
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GREAT! Well, thank you so much
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for sharing, kind of
your approach to that,
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and I'm sure, it sounds
like that you would have
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much more to share.
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Of course, you
probably... what do you have...
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an 18-day
program, a 12-day program?
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We have a 19-day program.
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And a 90-day program
too, and so you could just
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share and share and
share on this and we're glad
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that you have that facility
and you're sharing in that way.
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You've been watching
"Health for a Lifetime"
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We've been talking to
Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel
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He's the medical director of
The Lifestyle Center of America
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and they have a web
page by that same name
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www. lifestylecenter. org
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If you'd like more
information about their programs
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dealing with diabetes
or the other common killers
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in America, or if
you'd like information about
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other health
programs, or would like to get a
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copy of this video or other
health information here at 3ABN,
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please give us a
call, and we HOPE that as a
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result of your call and of
this program that you will have
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HEALTH that truly
WILL last for a LIFETIME!
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