Hello and welcome to Health for a Lifetime. 00:00:48.09\00:00:50.14 I'm your host Don Mackintosh. 00:00:50.17\00:00:51.50 We're glad you're with us today. 00:00:51.53\00:00:52.85 And we're also delighted that Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel 00:00:52.88\00:00:56.33 from the Lifestyle Center of America is with us. 00:00:56.36\00:00:58.12 Welcome Doctor. 00:00:58.15\00:00:59.36 Thank you very much, Don. 00:00:59.40\00:01:00.37 The Lifestyle Center of America is there right near 00:01:00.38\00:01:04.49 Oklahoma City, very centrally located. 00:01:04.52\00:01:07.11 It's a beautiful facility. 00:01:07.14\00:01:08.33 What exactly do you do there? 00:01:08.36\00:01:10.00 What's your background in medicine and what not? 00:01:10.04\00:01:12.45 So we kind of get to know you and what you do. 00:01:12.49\00:01:14.86 I'm the medical director for the lifestyle center. 00:01:14.90\00:01:18.18 What we do is we have people who come there with 00:01:18.22\00:01:21.43 chronic illnesses or they wish to prevent chronic illnesses. 00:01:21.47\00:01:25.82 They spend anywhere from 12 days to 19 days with us. 00:01:25.86\00:01:30.23 We see a smattering of different kinds of diseases but we tend to 00:01:30.26\00:01:35.16 concentrate primarily on diabetes, on heart disease, 00:01:35.19\00:01:39.61 high blood pressure, obesity, and so called syndrome X 00:01:39.64\00:01:43.30 and we have special programs for people with diabetes. 00:01:43.34\00:01:46.97 My background is internal medicine. 00:01:47.00\00:01:49.27 My sub-specialty work was in geriatrics and my focus, 00:01:49.30\00:01:55.68 my clinical focus, currently is on that syndrome X. 00:01:55.72\00:01:58.41 And you're also a teacher adjunct or associate professor 00:01:58.44\00:02:01.50 at Loma Linda, isn't that right? 00:02:01.54\00:02:02.71 That's right. 00:02:02.74\00:02:04.08 With Loma Linda, it's been voted recently a very high medical 00:02:04.12\00:02:07.21 schools across the nation. 00:02:07.25\00:02:09.70 It's a privilege, actually, to be able to be involved like 00:02:09.73\00:02:12.82 you are with that school. 00:02:12.85\00:02:14.08 Yes, it is. 00:02:14.11\00:02:15.08 Lifestyle Center of America those that are watching today 00:02:15.09\00:02:17.85 we're going to be talking about allergies. 00:02:17.89\00:02:19.83 You may have allergies or know those that do have allergies. 00:02:19.86\00:02:24.47 But maybe you're going to want to get in touch with the 00:02:24.50\00:02:27.35 Lifestyle Center of America. 00:02:27.38\00:02:28.96 They have a webpage that's www. lifestylecenter. org 00:02:28.99\00:02:40.76 and you can learn about the programs, the people, all those 00:02:40.79\00:02:43.31 different things. 00:02:43.34\00:02:44.31 I'll give that to you again throughout the program so you 00:02:44.32\00:02:47.84 can remember that. 00:02:47.87\00:02:48.84 I know that after listening to Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel 00:02:48.85\00:02:52.05 you're going to want to get in touch with him about something 00:02:52.08\00:02:54.35 because he's very interesting. 00:02:54.38\00:02:55.48 We're going to talk about reactions or reactors and 00:02:55.51\00:02:59.85 reactions - allergies - today. 00:02:59.88\00:03:02.38 I heard an interesting thing that sometimes people are 00:03:02.41\00:03:06.23 allergic to each other. 00:03:06.26\00:03:09.58 Well, it is possible that people may have some chemical 00:03:09.61\00:03:13.11 constituent that would trigger an allergic response 00:03:13.14\00:03:16.64 by somebody else. 00:03:16.67\00:03:17.80 But I don't know of any really documented cases of it. 00:03:17.83\00:03:20.25 What is an allergy? 00:03:20.28\00:03:25.17 What are allergies? 00:03:25.20\00:03:26.43 Well, allergy is just a state that people are in where they 00:03:26.46\00:03:30.43 have cells in their immune system that are reacting to 00:03:30.46\00:03:33.55 things in their environment, or things that are being 00:03:33.58\00:03:36.28 generated on the inside of them that produce chemicals 00:03:36.31\00:03:40.58 these chemicals produce symptoms. 00:03:40.61\00:03:42.01 The symptoms often times include things like itching or runny 00:03:42.04\00:03:46.12 nose or even wheezing and spasm of the bronchial tree, 00:03:46.15\00:03:52.35 the respiratory tree. 00:03:52.38\00:03:53.69 So it's a whole host of various kinds of responses 00:03:53.72\00:03:57.75 a person could have 00:03:57.78\00:03:59.05 Are people allergic to onions? 00:03:59.08\00:04:00.72 Is that why their eyes water? 00:04:00.75\00:04:02.08 That's not an allergy to onions. 00:04:02.11\00:04:03.71 That's just an irritation from some of the volatile chemicals 00:04:03.74\00:04:08.67 in the onions that people tear. 00:04:08.70\00:04:11.45 So allergies then really are a good thing - true or false? 00:04:11.48\00:04:15.07 Well, I wouldn't say it's a good thing. 00:04:15.10\00:04:16.98 Basically it's a reaction that involves a particular line of 00:04:17.01\00:04:21.07 chemicals that are being produced and these often times 00:04:21.10\00:04:24.31 lead to symptoms. 00:04:24.34\00:04:25.31 Now on the other side is if there is something that is 00:04:25.32\00:04:29.12 actually toxic to us and we have an allergic reaction, 00:04:29.15\00:04:32.01 the allergic reaction actually is a minor reaction. 00:04:32.04\00:04:34.23 It will alert us that this thing is in the environment and 00:04:34.26\00:04:37.42 therefore to help us to avoid that particular toxic thing. 00:04:37.45\00:04:40.69 But for the most part, people are allergic to some of the 00:04:40.72\00:04:44.94 common things that we might find in our environment 00:04:44.97\00:04:47.58 some food stuffs that otherwise would have been reasonable for 00:04:47.61\00:04:51.92 some people to eat, some people may be quite allergic to them. 00:04:51.95\00:04:55.15 How big a problem is this in America? 00:04:55.18\00:04:56.92 How many people have allergies or maybe you know some 00:04:56.95\00:04:59.12 statistics, but how large a problem is this? 00:04:59.15\00:05:01.99 It is a huge problem! 00:05:02.02\00:05:03.26 It is bigger than I can even estimate. 00:05:03.29\00:05:05.24 I don't have any numbers telling how many people have allergies. 00:05:05.27\00:05:11.32 But all one needs to do, anybody whose watching this show, 00:05:11.35\00:05:15.24 is to ask 10 friends "Who has allergies?" and they will find 00:05:15.27\00:05:18.78 that probably seven of their 10 friends have some kind of 00:05:18.81\00:05:21.90 allergy problem. 00:05:21.93\00:05:22.98 There is one time during the year, I know for me during a 00:05:23.01\00:05:25.48 certain time of the year, something about the grass 00:05:25.51\00:05:27.61 or the hay, so called hay fever, this or that, wow, I just stop! 00:05:27.64\00:05:31.50 I'm not very good outside. 00:05:31.53\00:05:33.97 I have to really be careful. 00:05:34.00\00:05:36.29 So it's a huge problem. 00:05:36.32\00:05:39.20 Why do we have then, you've mentioned several causative 00:05:39.23\00:05:43.24 factors, foods or different things. 00:05:43.27\00:05:45.90 And then you mentioned something as we were talking 00:05:45.93\00:05:49.90 called "atopy. " 00:05:49.93\00:05:51.16 What is atopy and what does it have to do with allergies? 00:05:51.19\00:05:54.06 Well, atopy is the... A T O P Y is how you spell it... this a 00:05:54.09\00:05:58.21 word that is used often by medical personnel that indicates 00:05:58.24\00:06:02.23 that the person is at the state of allergy. 00:06:02.26\00:06:05.90 In other words, the person has the genetic components and they 00:06:05.93\00:06:10.40 have everything, they are ready and waiting for them to have 00:06:10.43\00:06:14.09 an allergic reaction. 00:06:14.12\00:06:15.36 For some people it can be expressed, that is they go 00:06:15.39\00:06:21.09 on and start that process of having physical signs, 00:06:21.12\00:06:26.94 physical symptoms of the allergy or it could be something that is 00:06:26.97\00:06:31.71 kind of under the surface, it's hanging out there and it's just 00:06:31.74\00:06:35.34 waiting for the triggers to push the person over the edge. 00:06:35.37\00:06:38.73 Well, you've talked to me now for a few minutes, and I'm a 00:06:38.76\00:06:41.73 atopic person. 00:06:41.76\00:06:43.47 Do I seem like I'm on the verge of allergies? 00:06:43.50\00:06:46.26 How can you tell whether or not you are one of those families or 00:06:46.29\00:06:50.02 one of those individuals at risk? 00:06:50.05\00:06:51.02 One of the easiest ways to tell is to look at your family. 00:06:51.03\00:06:54.34 If you have people in the family who have allergies then chances 00:06:54.37\00:06:58.41 are you also are at some risk of developing allergies yourself. 00:06:58.44\00:07:02.69 And by family members we're not talking about step-family 00:07:02.72\00:07:06.49 or anything like that. 00:07:06.52\00:07:07.49 We're really talking about blood relatives. 00:07:07.50\00:07:09.46 If your blood relatives or ancestors had allergic or atopic 00:07:09.49\00:07:14.20 diseases such as asthma, eczema, if they had allergic... 00:07:14.23\00:07:19.63 Eczema being like what? 00:07:19.66\00:07:21.63 It's a scaly, crusty, dry things on the skin that often 00:07:21.66\00:07:26.57 times cause itch. 00:07:26.60\00:07:27.89 Or it could be allergic rhinitis. 00:07:27.92\00:07:31.23 That's where runny nose, chronic, clear, runny nose. 00:07:31.26\00:07:34.30 Sometimes with children we see the allergic salute, that is 00:07:34.33\00:07:38.38 they run their hand under their nose to wipe it and 00:07:38.41\00:07:39.43 clear their nose. 00:07:39.46\00:07:40.71 The allergic salute - laughter - 00:07:40.74\00:07:43.74 The skin over the lip and the side of the nose can change 00:07:43.77\00:07:50.25 its appearance and so on because of the chronic irritation of 00:07:50.28\00:07:55.17 rubbing. 00:07:55.20\00:07:56.53 Also, I may have mentioned allergic bronchitis and of 00:07:56.56\00:08:03.12 course that's linked to asthma where the bronchial tree 00:08:03.15\00:08:06.11 actually constricts. 00:08:06.14\00:08:07.90 So if in our families we have those types of conditions, 00:08:07.93\00:08:10.68 any of those types of things, we're kind of set up, and we 00:08:10.71\00:08:13.44 need to be really watching for our own selves unless we 00:08:13.47\00:08:19.26 would develop problems with this. 00:08:19.29\00:08:21.37 What can we do then to prevent some of these things? 00:08:21.40\00:08:24.61 What could we do to prevent asthma. 00:08:24.64\00:08:25.99 What can we do to deal with these types of things? 00:08:26.02\00:08:28.58 Well, Don, there are some factors that are out of the 00:08:28.61\00:08:33.76 control of the person but are in the control of the parents of 00:08:33.79\00:08:38.77 the person before the person was actually born. 00:08:38.80\00:08:41.04 So prenatal? 00:08:41.07\00:08:42.18 Yes, there's some prenatal factors that actually influence 00:08:42.21\00:08:45.48 whether the child, who will later on grow up to be an adult, 00:08:45.51\00:08:48.56 but whether that child is actually going to be manifesting 00:08:48.59\00:08:51.98 in the allergic reactions or not. 00:08:52.01\00:08:53.38 So all you pregnant mothers out there, all you people that 00:08:53.41\00:08:56.06 think you're going to have children, listen up now and take 00:08:56.09\00:08:58.37 those notes down as we're talking to 00:08:58.40\00:09:00.29 Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel. 00:09:00.32\00:09:01.92 What can we do prenatally to help us get away from a 00:09:01.95\00:09:06.55 predisposition to allergies? 00:09:06.58\00:09:08.56 If we look at the prenatal influences, one side of that 00:09:08.59\00:09:14.27 prenatal influence is of course the genetic side. 00:09:14.30\00:09:16.45 So if I have an allergic kind of problem then it's likely 00:09:16.48\00:09:23.01 that a child that I would father would also have some of that 00:09:23.04\00:09:26.54 allergic potential or atopic potential. 00:09:26.57\00:09:29.66 Those are things that by and large we can't really change. 00:09:29.69\00:09:32.11 We can't really change the genes at this point. 00:09:32.14\00:09:35.05 But how those genes are going to express themselves often 00:09:35.08\00:09:39.27 times is related to triggers. 00:09:39.30\00:09:40.90 Are there things that would trigger? 00:09:40.93\00:09:42.62 So the mother who is carrying the baby, that person would be 00:09:42.65\00:09:47.94 wise to stay away from some of those environmental triggers 00:09:47.97\00:09:52.44 which include things that we might eat or actually things 00:09:52.47\00:09:55.24 that we might inhale or be exposed to otherwise. 00:09:55.27\00:09:57.28 So what would like trigger asthma? 00:09:57.31\00:09:58.99 Some of the triggers include, for the mother passing it on to 00:09:59.02\00:10:03.09 the kids, would be things in the diet like fish, peanuts, soy, 00:10:03.12\00:10:10.86 some people are allergic to soy, wheat, and perhaps the biggest 00:10:10.89\00:10:17.75 one is cow's milk. 00:10:17.78\00:10:19.24 Cow's milk? 00:10:19.27\00:10:21.20 So these are things we should stay away from when we are 00:10:21.23\00:10:24.21 pregnant, or stay away from if we have a problem 00:10:24.24\00:10:28.67 with those things. 00:10:28.71\00:10:29.84 The way I would put it is if we are known to have a problem 00:10:29.87\00:10:32.12 with those things, it would be best to stay away from them. 00:10:32.15\00:10:34.67 If we think we might have a problem with those things, or if 00:10:34.70\00:10:37.19 we have family members who have allergies to those things, 00:10:37.22\00:10:39.93 then what you'd want to do is to reduce these to a minimum, 00:10:39.96\00:10:43.44 if not eliminate them from the diet. 00:10:43.47\00:10:45.73 And why is that? What's happening? 00:10:45.77\00:10:47.97 What would happen inside of us if we take those substances in 00:10:48.00\00:10:53.44 when we're pregnant? 00:10:53.47\00:10:54.68 The baby has essentially a clean slate. 00:10:54.71\00:11:00.57 The baby has the genetic makeup that will allow it to go one way 00:11:00.60\00:11:05.63 or another. 00:11:05.66\00:11:06.92 When the mother is exposed to these allergens, when she's 00:11:06.95\00:11:10.41 exposed to these environmental triggers, that is transmitted to 00:11:10.44\00:11:14.01 the baby, and the baby's immune system can then turn on in the 00:11:14.04\00:11:19.95 side of allergy or remain what we would call normal or 00:11:19.98\00:11:24.93 non-allergic. 00:11:24.96\00:11:26.80 So that by reducing the load of these allergens or 00:11:26.83\00:11:32.10 eliminating contact with these allergens, actually you are 00:11:32.13\00:11:35.86 sparing the baby from turning on this allergic kind of response. 00:11:35.89\00:11:39.85 Is the same thing true even when the mother is breast feeding? 00:11:39.88\00:11:44.76 Actually breast feeding is protective against allergies. 00:11:44.79\00:11:49.73 Now this is post-natal. 00:11:49.76\00:11:51.00 Ok, we don't want to get there yet. 00:11:51.03\00:11:52.01 Is there any other prenatal things we should stay away from 00:11:52.04\00:11:54.63 specifically? 00:11:54.66\00:11:57.61 A big one is actually smoke - tobacco smoke. 00:11:57.64\00:12:01.15 There are studies done in Great Britain that have actually 00:12:01.18\00:12:04.12 shown an increased incidence of asthma in men at age 40 00:12:04.15\00:12:11.36 because their mothers were exposed to smoke when 00:12:11.39\00:12:14.99 they were in uteral. 00:12:15.02\00:12:15.99 So 40 years later. 00:12:16.00\00:12:17.33 40 years later. 00:12:17.36\00:12:18.37 And when you say exposure to smoke is that an occasional 00:12:18.40\00:12:21.72 exposure or all the time being exposed? 00:12:21.75\00:12:23.10 It's occasional or all the time. 00:12:23.13\00:12:24.94 And the higher the dose, the greater the chance 00:12:24.97\00:12:27.55 that the child will grow up to a... 00:12:27.58\00:12:30.30 So it's really unconscionable, if you're pregnant, to be in a 00:12:30.33\00:12:34.86 smoke filled room. 00:12:34.89\00:12:35.86 Let me tell you, in some Scandinavian countries they look 00:12:35.87\00:12:39.70 at exposure to smoke during the time a woman is carrying a baby 00:12:39.73\00:12:44.77 that this is considered infanticide. 00:12:44.80\00:12:47.56 This is actually killing and harming the baby and 00:12:47.59\00:12:50.88 it's going to become a criminal offense. 00:12:50.91\00:12:53.70 Is that right?! 00:12:53.73\00:12:55.17 It's that right! 00:12:55.20\00:12:56.17 The scientific evidence is so strong. 00:12:56.18\00:12:57.79 What would you do if you saw someone that was smoking or in a 00:12:57.82\00:13:00.88 smoke filled room next to their child? 00:13:00.91\00:13:02.68 Would you share that with them? 00:13:02.71\00:13:03.76 I would share that with them hands down. 00:13:03.79\00:13:06.63 Additionally and apart from just an allergic reactions per say, 00:13:06.66\00:13:12.54 there's some collateral problems that the kids can end up with 00:13:12.57\00:13:15.97 including chronic ear infections or repeated 00:13:16.00\00:13:18.90 and recurrent ear infections. 00:13:18.93\00:13:20.80 That stuff starts off before the child is actually born. 00:13:20.83\00:13:25.77 We're talking with Dr. Zeno Charles-Morcel from 00:13:25.80\00:13:28.68 the Lifestyle Center of America. 00:13:28.71\00:13:30.16 If you would like to contact the Lifestyle Center of America 00:13:30.19\00:13:33.15 you can do that by calling 3ABN and we can give you the contact 00:13:33.18\00:13:36.84 numbers or by getting in touch with them by their web page 00:13:36.87\00:13:40.30 that's www. lifestylecenter. org and they can help you out. 00:13:40.33\00:13:48.05 We're talking about allergies. 00:13:48.08\00:13:49.05 We're talking about how to avoid them even before your 00:13:49.07\00:13:51.59 child is born. 00:13:51.62\00:13:52.59 When we come back we'll talk about more of that and what to 00:13:52.60\00:13:56.82 do, of course after you've been born. 00:13:56.85\00:13:58.34 And so join us when we back. 00:13:58.37\00:14:00.67 Have you found yourself wishing that you could 00:14:02.99\00:14:04.88 shed a few pounds? 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" 00:15:39.86\00:15:42.65 I believe that day is coming here too, just like you said. 00:15:42.68\00:15:46.47 I know that with the cigarette companies now, 00:15:46.50\00:15:49.28 it's very believable. 00:15:49.31\00:15:50.37 Who would have thought 40-50 years ago that what has 00:15:50.40\00:15:53.43 happened to big tobacco is now happened. 00:15:53.46\00:15:55.85 But I think that's going to go into other areas of life. 00:15:55.88\00:15:58.29 But there's another one. 00:15:58.32\00:15:59.29 A friend of mine that you perhaps know too, 00:15:59.30\00:16:03.38 Dr. Neal Bernhard, 00:16:03.41\00:16:04.44 The Physicians for Responsible Medicines in Washington, D.C., 00:16:04.47\00:16:08.13 is actually taking the government to court on 00:16:08.16\00:16:10.68 some other issues concerning the food and what-not. 00:16:10.71\00:16:13.76 But what about this big dairy lobby and what about cow's milk? 00:16:13.79\00:16:17.90 You talked about after birth exposing children to cow's milk. 00:16:17.93\00:16:24.13 What about that in allergies? 00:16:24.16\00:16:28.08 Well, let me say, I'm not into the political end of things. 00:16:28.11\00:16:33.29 I'm just going to look at what the scientific leader has 00:16:33.32\00:16:35.41 demonstrated. 00:16:35.44\00:16:39.20 Even prenatally, women who have some sensitivity to milk, 00:16:39.23\00:16:47.82 cow's milk, which by the way probably 45-75 percent of adults 00:16:47.85\00:16:55.78 have some form of milk sensitivity. 00:16:55.81\00:17:01.48 45-75 percent! 00:17:01.51\00:17:03.74 Especially people who have chronic sinusitis and so on. 00:17:04.30\00:17:07.40 The estimates are about 75% of those people have 00:17:07.43\00:17:10.43 milk or dairy intolerance. 00:17:10.46\00:17:12.58 This is not the same as lactose intolerance, which is the 00:17:12.61\00:17:16.52 sugar portion of the milk. 00:17:16.55\00:17:17.90 It's actually the proteins in the milk that produces 00:17:17.93\00:17:21.07 intolerance. 00:17:21.10\00:17:22.07 It tends to be, if you will, dose response, the higher the 00:17:22.08\00:17:28.30 dose, the more the response. 00:17:28.33\00:17:30.24 But when it comes to allergy even a little bit can produce a 00:17:30.27\00:17:36.55 pretty big response. 00:17:36.58\00:17:38.16 Prenatally. 00:17:38.19\00:17:39.48 So that a mother who is exposed to cow's milk who is 00:17:39.51\00:17:44.01 allergic to cow's milk may be passing on cow's milk allergy 00:17:44.04\00:17:49.65 to the baby. 00:17:49.68\00:17:50.74 So that child will be born now being more sensitive to the 00:17:50.77\00:17:54.93 cow's milk. 00:17:54.96\00:17:56.10 After birth, if that child is again exposed to cow's milk 00:17:56.13\00:18:01.38 then the child can end up with allergic problems including 00:18:01.41\00:18:05.39 asthma, eczema, and atopic dermatitis. 00:18:05.42\00:18:09.84 So they can have the full-blown cow's milk allergy in addition 00:18:09.87\00:18:13.92 to some of the other things that might be going on related to 00:18:13.95\00:18:18.48 part of the cow's milk protein, bovine serum albumin and other 00:18:18.51\00:18:22.13 proteins that can trigger auto immune reactions by the baby 00:18:22.16\00:18:27.14 to allow for the development of type I diabetes. 00:18:27.17\00:18:32.04 Diabetes? 00:18:32.07\00:18:33.26 Diabetes, that's correct. 00:18:33.29\00:18:34.31 How does that work? 00:18:34.34\00:18:35.40 Well, as far as we can tell, there are some proteins in the 00:18:35.43\00:18:40.31 milk, and one of these, the prime target is actually the 00:18:40.34\00:18:43.65 bovine serum albumin. 00:18:43.68\00:18:45.45 This bovine serum albumin has a shape and a configuration 00:18:45.48\00:18:50.04 that's very similar to the shape and configuration of some of the 00:18:50.07\00:18:53.62 proteins in the beta cells of the insulin producing cells 00:18:53.65\00:18:56.65 in our pancreas. 00:18:56.68\00:18:58.33 So what can happen is that when the young child gets this whole 00:18:58.36\00:19:06.04 protein into the system, and by the way, the gastro intestinal 00:19:06.07\00:19:10.83 system of an infant isn't fully developed until about 1 to 2 00:19:10.86\00:19:14.87 years of age, so whole proteins can actually enter into the 00:19:14.90\00:19:18.08 circulation of the child. 00:19:18.11\00:19:19.29 The child then has to fight against this foreign protein. 00:19:19.32\00:19:22.88 And the way the child will do it is with the immune system. 00:19:22.91\00:19:25.93 So the immune system attacks this foreign protein, breaks it 00:19:25.96\00:19:29.90 down, and sends a signal throughout the child's system 00:19:29.93\00:19:32.81 that says essentially this, 00:19:32.84\00:19:34.41 "If you see this protein, attack it!" 00:19:34.44\00:19:37.98 "Don't let it live. " 00:19:38.01\00:19:40.46 Now, that process alerts all of the immune active cells in the 00:19:40.49\00:19:46.48 child... 00:19:46.51\00:19:47.48 T- killer cells and all that. 00:19:47.49\00:19:48.75 You got it! 00:19:48.78\00:19:49.98 You're really a student of this stuff! - laughter - 00:19:50.02\00:19:51.25 Well, these cells now look for proteins that have this 00:19:51.28\00:19:56.45 signature. 00:19:56.48\00:19:57.81 And low and behold, if the pancreas of the child 00:19:57.84\00:20:01.78 has proteins that are similar and the child has the genetic 00:20:01.81\00:20:08.10 make up that says if this connection occurs they develop 00:20:08.13\00:20:12.19 type I diabetes. 00:20:12.22\00:20:13.32 Low and behold that will happen. 00:20:13.35\00:20:15.49 Amazing! 00:20:15.52\00:20:16.49 Why aren't we hearing things about this? 00:20:16.50\00:20:18.49 In America you see commercial after commercial... 00:20:18.52\00:20:22.68 Just recently I was at a friends' house that was watching 00:20:22.71\00:20:27.07 a commercial and there was a big thing about drinking milk, 00:20:27.10\00:20:32.27 and about how it's healthy for you and your family. 00:20:32.30\00:20:34.62 Why don't we hear these kind of things? 00:20:34.65\00:20:36.53 Well, I think that a large extent, we don't get an 00:20:36.56\00:20:40.47 unbiased view of the scientific data. 00:20:40.50\00:20:43.60 You know the milk industry is big business and 00:20:43.63\00:20:47.73 they have a product to sell. 00:20:47.76\00:20:48.98 And by the way, milk is whole food. 00:20:49.01\00:20:51.70 Milk is very rich in nutrients. 00:20:51.73\00:20:55.65 As a matter of fact, it's so rich in nutrients it can take a 00:20:55.68\00:20:58.93 baby calf and produce a full grown cow in a matter of months. 00:20:58.96\00:21:03.22 This is nutritionally packed stuff. 00:21:03.25\00:21:07.05 I'm not trying to speak against the fact that this is sometimes 00:21:07.08\00:21:13.96 good, solid nutrition. 00:21:13.99\00:21:17.75 In some communities this might be the best nutrition that some 00:21:17.78\00:21:20.94 people can get. 00:21:20.97\00:21:22.03 But it's not without its downside. 00:21:22.06\00:21:25.54 And the downside is it really wasn't meant for human 00:21:25.57\00:21:29.39 consumption per say, particularly for early in life. 00:21:29.42\00:21:33.04 The kind of milk that is meant for babies to thrive on 00:21:33.07\00:21:37.67 is actually mother's milk. 00:21:37.70\00:21:38.89 Mother's milk. 00:21:38.92\00:21:40.04 So if you have a choice of breast feeding or not 00:21:40.07\00:21:43.26 breast feeding your child, you really should make a 00:21:43.29\00:21:45.18 choice to breast feed. 00:21:45.21\00:21:46.31 Breast feed by all means. 00:21:46.34\00:21:47.65 How long? 00:21:47.68\00:21:48.65 At least a year. 00:21:48.66\00:21:49.69 During that first year the constituency of the 00:21:49.72\00:21:53.99 mother's milk actually changes as the child progresses and as 00:21:54.02\00:21:57.91 the child develops. 00:21:57.94\00:21:58.91 When you're breast feeding should you yourself drink 00:21:58.92\00:22:01.78 cow's milk? 00:22:01.81\00:22:02.78 Well, if again, if you have this atopy issue, if you have allergy 00:22:02.79\00:22:08.20 or if your family they have an issue with cow's milk allergy, 00:22:08.23\00:22:12.78 I would stay away from the cow's milk as well and use 00:22:12.81\00:22:15.83 other things if at all possible to get adequate nutrition. 00:22:15.86\00:22:19.73 There are like soy milks, rice milks, there are other things 00:22:19.76\00:22:22.88 That's correct 00:22:22.91\00:22:23.92 Now those other things, I ought to mention, 00:22:23.95\00:22:26.12 they are not really milks, you know. 00:22:26.15\00:22:27.79 Soy milk is not really milk. 00:22:27.82\00:22:28.97 It's just soy beans. 00:22:29.00\00:22:30.07 It's soy beans and they now make it with 00:22:30.10\00:22:32.99 soy protein isolates and what not. 00:22:33.03\00:22:34.84 You could be allergic to that. 00:22:34.87\00:22:35.84 You could be allergic to that, too. 00:22:35.85\00:22:37.25 Additionally, with the genetic engineering, they've been able 00:22:37.28\00:22:40.86 to put in other kinds of proteins into the soy bean, 00:22:40.89\00:22:44.96 etcetera, so some people may not be allergic to soy at all, 00:22:44.99\00:22:48.05 but they might be allergic to something else that was 00:22:48.08\00:22:50.81 introduced into the soy. 00:22:50.84\00:22:52.19 So stay away from genetically produced foods? 00:22:52.22\00:22:55.52 Well that might be a lot bigger topic than I can summarize in 00:22:55.55\00:23:00.17 one statement. 00:23:00.20\00:23:01.17 But for instance, there was an epidemic, if you will, a small 00:23:01.18\00:23:05.31 epidemic, of individuals who were supposedly allergic to soy 00:23:05.34\00:23:10.15 bean, when in fact they weren't really allergic 00:23:10.18\00:23:12.35 to the soy bean at all. 00:23:12.39\00:23:13.36 They were allergic to the Brazil nut proteins that were placed 00:23:13.37\00:23:16.45 in the soy bean by soy bean growers to produce 00:23:16.48\00:23:21.43 a more stable crop. 00:23:21.46\00:23:23.06 Amazing! 00:23:23.09\00:23:24.64 So foods as grown. 00:23:24.67\00:23:26.75 Foods as grown that's the way to do it. 00:23:26.78\00:23:29.47 Let's talk about some specific allergies that people maybe are 00:23:29.50\00:23:33.26 struggling with in our last four minutes here. 00:23:33.29\00:23:35.91 A big issue is asthma. 00:23:35.94\00:23:37.72 Ok, asthma, what can we do if we have it? 00:23:37.75\00:23:39.83 We know what we can do to avoid it - no cigarette smoking 00:23:39.86\00:23:43.22 and those different things - but what can we do if we have it? 00:23:43.25\00:23:45.47 If we have asthma, we ought to look at what things typically 00:23:45.50\00:23:47.69 trigger the asthma. 00:23:47.72\00:23:48.90 Some people have exercise induced asthma. 00:23:48.94\00:23:51.18 So they go out and exert themselves and they end up 00:23:51.22\00:23:54.83 with wheezing. 00:23:54.86\00:23:56.14 For those individuals, actually using fruits that are high 00:23:56.18\00:24:01.99 in vitamin C tend to decrease the person's allergic response 00:24:02.02\00:24:07.80 or asthmatic response to exercise. 00:24:07.83\00:24:09.61 If not, they can take a vitamin C supplement - 00:24:09.65\00:24:13.89 500- 1,000 mg of vitamin C for a half an hour before they 00:24:13.93\00:24:18.20 go out to exercise and this will decrease their likelihood 00:24:18.24\00:24:22.48 of wheezing during exercise. 00:24:22.51\00:24:24.49 So that's a simple thing that people can do. 00:24:24.53\00:24:27.08 If the person knows that there are triggers, they should stay 00:24:27.11\00:24:30.60 away from those triggers. 00:24:30.64\00:24:31.61 Now one of the triggers is food. 00:24:31.62\00:24:34.49 And the various kinds of foods they may not be aware that there 00:24:34.52\00:24:37.74 are things in the food that might produce this. 00:24:37.78\00:24:39.90 But apart from the things in the food is the quantity of food. 00:24:39.93\00:24:43.96 People who tend to have allergic asthma associated with 00:24:44.00\00:24:48.82 food or exercise tend to also have more asthmatic attacks 00:24:48.86\00:24:53.65 more frequently when they over-eat. 00:24:53.69\00:24:56.91 So over-eating, gluttony, now that's not a popular word today 00:24:56.94\00:25:01.34 but over-eating can actually bring on asthmatic attack. 00:25:01.38\00:25:06.65 Unfortunately asthma is a disease that can take your life. 00:25:06.69\00:25:11.97 Some people may have their last meal that actually kills them. 00:25:12.00\00:25:16.91 Eczema. 00:25:16.95\00:25:18.86 Eczema - this of course is a skin condition and the same 00:25:18.90\00:25:21.76 things that pertain to bronchial spasms or the asthmatic attacks 00:25:21.80\00:25:28.54 can also be applied. 00:25:28.58\00:25:30.80 Like vitamin C? 00:25:30.84\00:25:32.01 Vitamin C is helpful. 00:25:32.05\00:25:34.39 Some people, of course, tend to be?. 00:25:34.43\00:25:38.12 So just keeping them away from the foods. 00:25:38.15\00:25:40.17 This is a major issue with eczema. 00:25:40.20\00:25:43.52 Allergic rhinitis? 00:25:43.56\00:25:45.08 Allergic rhinitis is the same issue. 00:25:45.12\00:25:46.73 All these diseases are actually in the same cluster of 00:25:46.77\00:25:49.80 atopic diseases. 00:25:49.83\00:25:51.34 Water? 00:25:51.37\00:25:52.58 Having adequate amounts of water, this is actually part 00:25:52.61\00:25:57.48 of the treatment for allergy. 00:25:57.52\00:25:59.41 Good, fresh, clean water inside and of course outside. 00:25:59.45\00:26:04.70 We've got about 2 minutes. 00:26:04.74\00:26:06.34 What about allergies as they relate to the society? 00:26:06.38\00:26:10.49 There was an interesting study in the 00:26:10.52\00:26:16.44 New England Journal of Medicine a few years ago looking at 00:26:16.47\00:26:19.68 what I would call a societal aspect of asthma. 00:26:19.71\00:26:25.09 What was found was that the parts of the cockroach actually 00:26:25.13\00:26:32.06 are highly allergenic. 00:26:32.10\00:26:33.57 They can set off allergies as an environmental factor. 00:26:33.60\00:26:37.53 Is that right? 00:26:37.56\00:26:38.53 That's right! 00:26:38.54\00:26:39.51 And what was found is that within the inner cities across 00:26:39.52\00:26:42.10 the United States we're dealing with the social ill of poverty 00:26:42.14\00:26:50.05 and poor housing, etcetera, that these individuals, 00:26:50.08\00:26:52.92 the youngsters who live in these environments actually have a 00:26:52.96\00:26:56.50 greater death rate from asthma than people who don't live in 00:26:56.54\00:27:00.05 these kinds of situations. 00:27:00.09\00:27:01.06 Because of cockroaches? 00:27:01.07\00:27:02.04 Because of the cockroaches - that's correct. 00:27:02.05\00:27:03.07 Amazing! 00:27:03.10\00:27:04.13 So getting rid of the cockroaches... it's actually 00:27:04.16\00:27:08.67 what I would call a social issue that has to do with poverty 00:27:08.71\00:27:13.73 and education and etcetera that can be helped. 00:27:13.76\00:27:17.37 If people know about this... 00:27:17.40\00:27:18.58 So if you have cockroaches call the Orkin man or call 00:27:18.62\00:27:20.94 whoever the bug man is. 00:27:20.98\00:27:21.95 Whoever the bug man is... 00:27:21.96\00:27:22.93 Get rid of them! 00:27:22.94\00:27:24.18 Right, as a matter of fact for many people the best thing 00:27:24.21\00:27:27.06 is to not encourage the cockroaches in the first place. 00:27:27.09\00:27:30.49 And that requires hygiene in the environment, keeping things 00:27:30.53\00:27:33.79 clean, keeping away the foods that the roaches will come out 00:27:33.83\00:27:37.06 at night to feast on. 00:27:37.10\00:27:39.64 You take them off the counter, put them in the garbage 00:27:39.68\00:27:41.61 and close the lid. 00:27:41.65\00:27:42.80 We've been talking with Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel. 00:27:42.84\00:27:45.14 He has a wealth of information on allergies and other subjects. 00:27:45.17\00:27:48.02 If you'd like to contact him or the Lifestyle Center of America 00:27:48.06\00:27:50.88 give us a call here at 3ABN and we'll get you in 00:27:50.91\00:27:52.92 touch with them. 00:27:52.95\00:27:54.35 We hope as a result of today's program you have 00:27:54.38\00:27:56.02 health that lasts for a lifetime. 00:27:56.05\00:27:59.10