Hello and welcome to
"Health for a Lifetime"
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I'm your host Don Mackintosh,
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and today I'm delighted to
be talking with Dr. Ashraf Maher
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Did I say that right? Exactly!
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It's a very hard
name, but you said it right.
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Not only are you a doctor,
you're a doctor-doctor...
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Doctor-doctor-doctor! Is
that a good way to put it?
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Well I collect
them just for hobbies!
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That's right, now
explain that to us...
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You, first of all,
had some schooling in...
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...In Egypt It's
where I was born.
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And what were you involved
in? What kind of study there?
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I graduated from Cairo
University Medical School
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And then after this, I
took a, just as a hobby,
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a PhD in the
origin of religion. Okay!
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And then we've been
doing some research about
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the ancient Egyptian mummies.
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...All the big names in history.
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So you come from a
family then, in Egypt...
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Yes, I have a family in Egypt,
and my family was more political
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than I wish they'd been...
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and then when Nasser
took over, in the old days,
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a lot of us had... to say
it mildly, to skip town. Okay
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Tell me a
little bit about the...
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And then also, you're a
dentist is that right? Yes
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So you're a doctor of
medicine, and you're a dentist,
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and then you're
also a doctor in religion
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or philosophy in religion. Yes
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I'm a little nervous.
No you don't have to...
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But when I was in Egypt,
we were coordinating with the
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University of Michigan
in research about x-raying
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the ancient
Egyptian mummies. Oh, okay...
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We were doing research
and at this time the computer
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was very primitive;
we used a punch card.
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It's not like now, digital
work and we took x-rays of
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the mummies, and also a
lot of ancient Egyptian tombs
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to get the skeleton there and...
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And what were you
looking for in the mummies?
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We tried to
make a correlation...
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Did the angulation of the skull
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change through
several thousand years.
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So that was trying to prove
or disprove evolution or...
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No, it was not really evolution.
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We just wanted to know
if, during years happening,
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there was an increase
in the size of the brain,
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or a decrease in the
size of the jaw growing...
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And then when I came to the
university... What did you find?
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Well, it wasn't conclusive.
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So you found out
that their brains weren't
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getting bigger or smaller.
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No, no, no... there was nothing.
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And then you came to
the University of Michigan
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and I worked there,
and the research was done
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in the dental school.
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And I can get a research
assistant, and take a degree
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in 2-1/2 years, and
I would graduate fast,
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and I jumped in and became
a dentist to support my habit!
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Which is a love
of study I take it...
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A love of... you
know the system of belief
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It usually interests me, but it
was really an interest in life.
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So they probably were
very interested in you because
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you knew
Egyptian, and you also...
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did you know how to
read hieroglyphics? Yes
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You need to understand that the
way the hieroglyphic is written
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in the old days like
when you go to a temple,
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a lot of people will
watch or be able to read it.
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They don't realize that it was
written by different thoughts
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or a different way of thinking.
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For example, my
visit with you here today,
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if it needed to be
recorded in the temple,
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they will see, during
the Clinton Administration,
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and also the governor of
Illinois, and you go, and you go
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until in the end...
whatever happened, you know.
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Sort of in the year of our Lord,
blah, blah, blah, blah. Exactly
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And then they would
position it. Exactly
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Interesting, and they
draw it all in pictures.
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Now let me ask you this...
Is it from front-to-back?
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I understood that you
read this way on a tablet,
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and then that way...
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This is a very, very
important part of it.
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They are written
in columns. Oh...
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And it could be from left-to-
right, up-to-down, and left...
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and that's why it's
very, very confusing...
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like there was no
system of writing the way
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we have it here
from left-to-right.
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Some of the ancient script
was written in columns from
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top-to-bottom, or
right-to-left or left-to-right.
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Interesting... So when
did they figure that out?
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I mean, I might be
portraying my ignorance here,
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but was it during
the time of Napoleon
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then they really
figured it out? Exactly
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When Champollion arrived,
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he was extremely very good in
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religion... I'm
sorry, in ancient language.
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He spoke several languages,
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and even able to decipher
because of the Rosetta Stone,
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and they found the cartouche
with the name of Cleopatra in it
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and he became
able to decipher it...
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And from then on,
it started happening...
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and very few people
really know it very well.
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And one of them is
a lady in Kentucky;
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her name is Normandi Ellis,
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and she's the one who translated
the Book of the Dead...
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And she was able
also to understand
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the spirit of the words...
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Like here especially
with every new generation,
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there are a lot of
words, like if someone
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tried to translate a
high school guy saying,
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"Wow, he's cool!"
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You know, in Japanese, it
would be "He's freezing. "
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Okay so, interesting, so
then to get back to that part
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where they can really
understand what it says...
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Now, you know, one thing
that has fascinated me about
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the study of ancient
Egyptian history was also some
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studies out of the
University of Manchester
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where they were
looking at mummies again,
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and they saw the
common diseases in Egypt.
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Have you seen anything
about that or read about that?
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Oh yes! What were some of the
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common diseases in Egypt?
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The common diseases
were... arthritis, of course,
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and you have also TB.
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Was there heart
disease? Of course!
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Did they see
that in the mummies?
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No, because the
mummies, really, you cannot go
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and look at the arteries. Okay
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Now, maybe we
would be able to do it,
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but in the old days...
because you're not allowed to
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open the mummy...
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You would take
x-rays of the mummy.
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We did not really...
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But I can understand
that in ancient people,
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like in every
place regarding diet,
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because of the hard to
find food in ancient time,
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usually heavy, fatty, high
meat, was good for the peoples
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idea of being "the
rich" or, you know,
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like all his life will
say, "Well, on Christmas
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or when the Nile rises, I
will have a couple of pigs. "
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Now, you know, it's
kind of interesting how you
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learned about 3ABN
and different things,
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and I think that's
through Dr. Hans Diehl.
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Yes, it was an
incredible event in my life.
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Now, Dr. Hans Diehl, I've worked
with him a little bit too...
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Those who are
watching maybe don't know
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a little bit about that,
but it was the CHIP Program
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and he's recently come
out with a series of videos
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that really are the
fruit of about 12 years of work
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where he takes people
through a 30-day program,
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where they're
educated, and motivated
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to make changes that
can lead to longer life.
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How did you hear
about the CHIP Program?
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Well, I would like to tell
you a little bit about BEFORE
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I heard about the
CHIP Program. Okay
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I was a meat-eater! Okay
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And for me, when I
came from the office,
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after a hard day,
when I go outside,
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I wanted to eat the
biggest piece of meat,
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and anything on the
plate other than meat,
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was a waste of space for me!
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So you were not even
a meat and potatoes man,
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you were a meat-man. There was
eating no potatoes or no salad,
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you know, like the
salad when Nancy, my wife,
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would eat salad and stuff
like this, I looked at them
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and she was a little bit
more health conscious before me.
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I looked at her... Is
she from Egypt as well? No
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She is from Kalamazoo, Michigan.
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And she visited the pyramids
of Egypt too... we took her once
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But for me, it
was a wonderful thing.
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I have a couple of times,
NOW when I know what happened,
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I really thank the good
Lord that I'm still alive.
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So you LOVED meat!
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You didn't like hummus?
You didn't like tabouli?
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No, no, no, no,
no... None of that stuff!
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I usually go to a restaurant.
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I have about 10
thousand patients...
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and everyone knows me.
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"Hi Doc! What would you like?"
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Oop, I have this big steak, and
another big steak on top of it,
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and I go home, and I go to bed,
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and now I understand
how... ... It was not so good.
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What about CHIP then, how did
you hear about the CHIP Program,
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and what was your initial
response to hearing about it?
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I did not like it at all.
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I did not believe in it at all.
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I felt that Dr. Diehl would
be, coming to do a couple of
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lectures, and then
would sell T- shirts,
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and some vitamins.
So you were a little...
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And, you know, you take
the course and all the things
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I did not at all.
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As-a-matter-of-fact,
the day before I went there,
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we had a couple of
events, to make me join.
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We heard the word, first
of all, in the newspaper,
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and my wife looked at
me, and said, "We're going!"
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"We ARE going"... So
your wife dragged you there.
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In my house, I
handle only foreign policy,
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and she handles the rest.
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Well I was sitting
down, lying in bed watching TV
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and I was interested in inviting
a group of people to my house,
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and I wanted to
cook for them a turkey...
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And here is a guy, selling
on the TV, a HUGE BIG fryer.
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Turkey... No, it's a fryer.
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A fryer... okay.
A big one like this,
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with a heating
element under it...
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and then there is
a cover on the top,
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and then you have gloves,
you have injecting syringes,
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and you put like about a couple
of gallons of oil in it...
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and you take this big turkey...
So it's a major surgery!
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Yeah, and you put it in, and
you lock it in about 10 minutes
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and the guy...
Nancy came to the room
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while the guy is
taking the turkey out,
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and this bird sucked
about a gallon of oil.
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So this was your
plan for the day...
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Yeah, Nancy said, "We're GOING.
We ARE going. We ARE going. "
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Now, to make this
story more interesting,
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my neighbor, who
is my best friend too;
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he is a cardiologist...
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His name is Dr.
Antonio Peschiera.
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And he had a brand new
car; it's a Lexus, a sporty car.
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And we were going for dinner,
and he was coming to pick me...
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And... the car was too small;
you know, those fancy things.
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And Nancy opened the door,
and she squeezed in the back...
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And I'm trying to
get in... I could NOT
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and he looked at me and said,
"You know you are very plumpy!"
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And this is the day
before you went to...
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YES, and I'm laughing...
I said, "What do you mean?"
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And Nancy started laughing,
and he said, "And you too!"
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And we decided... You
took that as a wake-up sign
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I went the next day,
she was sick, my wife.
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And you went to the
informational meeting?
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The information...
And who was leading that?
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Usually Valerie
works... Valerie was there!
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And I hope she can forgive me
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because I was not a pain in the
neck, I was really, really rude.
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I did not believe... it was
against everything I believed in
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So let me just set
this up for the folks...
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Tell me if I'm right or wrong.
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In the informational
thing, Valerie takes a video
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that shows an
overview of the CHIP Program,
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the "coronary
health improvement project"
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...what's going to happen,
and why and how... Exactly
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And you were in that meeting...
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Well, you know,
through my medical school,
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I know if you have
high blood pressure,
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you're going to have high
blood pressure all your life!
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I also know that if you have
high cholesterol, it's too bad!
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You know, I mean
you're going to have it until
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the Lord pushes
you to the other side.
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So in other words, you have it,
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that's the way it is,
and so you were not...
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Okay, I felt it was
ABSOLUTELY COMPLETELY...
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Did you tell Valerie that?
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I started arguing
with her. Oh boy...
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And she really...
Now we are best friends!
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But in the old days,
when I started, it was...
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because I could not
believe someone would stand up
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and claim that in 4 or 5 weeks
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you're going to be
clear from diabetes.
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Did you disrupt the
class that day? I did...
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I did and I asked God,
and Dr. Diehl for forgiveness
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because in this time,
this was also an experience
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for every human being like me.
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You sometimes
believe in something,
00:14:04.76\00:14:06.84
and you really became unflexible
00:14:06.87\00:14:12.08
and then when you REALLY realize
that you were wrong later on
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you really know
what a fool you are!
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I want to know how this changed
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but we're going to
take a break right now.
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We're talking with Dr. Maher.
00:14:22.24\00:14:24.16
He had a very
exciting experience in life.
00:14:24.19\00:14:27.49
We've heard a little
bit about his life...
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But now he's come to this
program... the CHIP Program;
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he doesn't know
what to expect about it.
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When we come back, we're
going to hear what happened...
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Have you found yourself wishing
that you could shed a few pounds
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Have you been on a
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but not found anything that
will really keep the weight off?
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Welcome back, we've been
talking with Dr. Ashraf Maher.
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He originally is from Egypt.
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He's a doctor-doctor-doctor,
a dentist, a medical doctor
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and also studied the
philosophy of religion,
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and when we broke, you were
telling us a fascinating story
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about how you had heard about
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the coronary health improvement
program... the CHIP Program.
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You had just roasted, or
were going to be roasting a
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big turkey; you wanted to
have all your friends over;
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you had 2
gallons of oil in that;
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you couldn't get into a car,
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and your wife says, "I'm
going to take you there,"
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and you've gone to
the informational meeting,
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and the lady that
was giving the overview
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of what the
program would be like,
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you didn't agree with
her. What happened next?
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Well you need to
understand, that when you are
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in the medical field,
there are a lot of facts...
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like if you have
high cholesterol.
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No one will come and tell you
"I will lower your cholesterol
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in 4 weeks"
without medication...
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because you see... a lot of
companies are spending millions
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of dollars to do
research to sell those pills.
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So you believed in the pills
but you didn't believe in...
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You know, with high blood
pressure, you're going to have
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high blood pressure
until you, you know,
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as long as you are
not taking any medication.
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If you are diabetic,
you need to take some
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shots in the buns every
day until you can be cured...
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But at the same time, I
felt really that they are
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giving a lot of things that
they may not be able to prove.
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So you were kind of wondering.
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I was absolutely...
until something happened...
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I have a cyst on my finger.
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But wait, before that, how
did you get through that meeting
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...did you sign up that day? Yes
00:17:16.57\00:17:18.35
Well, why did you sign
up if you didn't really...
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I wanted to make
sure that, as I told you,
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I do only foreign policy, and my
wife deals with everything else.
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You did it basically on
the basis of your wife. Yes!
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And the love of
Christ... you know what I mean!
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Which is true...
because this actually
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saved my life!
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You believed that the Lord
IMPRESSED you then to sign up.
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EXACTLY! I believe in this 100%
00:17:38.68\00:17:41.33
that if I did not sign
and join Dr. Hans Diehl,
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I would be dead today.
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We're glad you're
here because of that.
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So what happened? You
had something on your finger
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Yes. When we
started the program,
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we usually go through the blood
tests, and weight and everything
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and the results came, and I
don't want to tell you about
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the result
because it was REALLY BAD!
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I had high blood
pressure, borderline diabetic,
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but actually, in my
book, I was diabetic.
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I had a very high cholesterol
which was over 150 because I was
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Well, that's
not... over 150 that's
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I'm sorry 250! ...
Over 250. Forgive me.
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250 and I was just...
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Plus, you were a
little overweight.
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You know what I mean, I
couldn't get in the CAR!
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I was about maybe 45 pounds
more than what I am right now.
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I gained about 10 pounds
in the winter here because
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I did not do...
You're back on track though.
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So you had this thing on
your finger, and what happened?
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I had to have it
taken out in 2 weeks.
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And this is 2
weeks after the program,
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the CHIP
Program had started. Yes
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And I followed EXACTLY
what Dr. Diehl told us.
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In the first part,
you went on jumpstart,
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that thing where
you... FLUIDS and all that.
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EXACTLY! EXACTLY...
I followed him exactly.
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And it usually takes 2 weeks
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before you
understand what is going on.
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First of all... And your
wife was watching you probably.
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Yeah but also there is
another funny thing happened
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I went to get brand new pants.
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And you bend and they
cracked in front of the people.
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It was REALLY, really bad.
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And I... just like the Lord is,
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because I am a little bit funny,
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and He wanted
to take care of me.
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And then 2 weeks
later, I took another...
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they are
preparing me for surgery.
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And I asked, can you... you
know they usually take blood
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tests again, and I just said,
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"Can you take a
cholesterol test for me. "
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So this is when you're in...
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This is nobody that knows about
Dr. Diehl's program or anything.
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You're at your regular
doctor, and you're getting
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something done, and
you're getting the blood test.
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Yes, but I was noticing
that my pants was getting looser
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and I felt that I'm
REALLY more ENERGETIC.
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Well, I went to the day of
the operation, my wife outside,
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and my friend, and all the
physicians are friends of mind,
00:20:11.94\00:20:15.04
and they were laughing with me.
00:20:15.07\00:20:16.39
And suddenly one of
the nurses came and...
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"Hey Doc, how are you?"
00:20:19.83\00:20:20.95
And I'm sitting down
with this gown, you know,
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with the opened back...
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And I looked and...
"By the way, can you read
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for me the
blood?" She said, "Okay. "
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"How was my cholesterol?" 140...
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I'm sorry, 180. 180? WOW!
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I jumped out of the bed...
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And it was above 250
when you started? Yes!
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I jumped out of the
bed... With your open back?
00:20:45.57\00:20:48.05
With my opened...
and I ran outside,
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opened the door...
My wife was there...
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"NANCY, NANCY... I'm 180"
00:20:52.70\00:20:57.35
"WHAT 180?" "My
cholesterol is 180!"
00:20:57.38\00:21:00.33
Were there other people
in the waiting room? Oh yes!
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And everyone just
couldn't, you know, like REALLY
00:21:02.58\00:21:05.66
...it was something like,
especially my blood pressure
00:21:05.69\00:21:09.23
started going down...
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My sugar, it was
like about went down a lot
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even in 2 weeks... Is
that right? I felt it.
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And then after I finished,
there were a lot of changes
00:21:19.42\00:21:23.89
especially in the end.
00:21:23.92\00:21:25.94
I think Dr. Diehl, also in
his lectures, talked about the
00:21:25.97\00:21:29.82
frontal lobe of the brain,
00:21:29.85\00:21:32.12
and YOUR THINKING, because
of the purity of the food
00:21:32.15\00:21:36.81
you are eating, you
feel more clearly...
00:21:36.84\00:21:40.67
You feel that
actually because of the lack of
00:21:40.70\00:21:44.44
the contaminated food
like meat with hormones
00:21:44.47\00:21:48.29
...a lot of
processed food which contained
00:21:48.32\00:21:52.71
a lot of chemicals...
00:21:52.74\00:21:55.15
After I got rid of all of this,
00:21:55.18\00:21:57.26
especially was
drinking water every hour,
00:21:57.29\00:21:59.71
I go and get me a
glass of water to cleanse me,
00:21:59.74\00:22:02.80
I felt completely MORE clearer.
00:22:02.83\00:22:05.52
As-a-matter-of-fact, I
was very, very aggressive!
00:22:05.55\00:22:08.50
BEFORE. Yes!
00:22:08.53\00:22:09.82
And then afterwards,
you kind of got calm.
00:22:09.85\00:22:12.10
It was amazing.
00:22:12.13\00:22:13.92
Like nowadays, I have a
lot of my patients who have
00:22:13.95\00:22:16.66
children who are in
severe cases of rebellant
00:22:16.69\00:22:21.57
and I discussed with
them about the CHIP Program...
00:22:21.60\00:22:25.01
These are your patients
that come to your office.
00:22:25.04\00:22:26.37
Yes, they come to my office.
00:22:26.40\00:22:27.44
Let me go back to something,
and I want to talk more about
00:22:27.47\00:22:29.91
how you relate to
others after this,
00:22:29.94\00:22:31.44
but, okay, you didn't
want to listen to Valerie,
00:22:31.47\00:22:35.00
but then you went and it
sounds to me like, at first,
00:22:35.03\00:22:39.85
you were just going on
the basis of keeping peace
00:22:39.88\00:22:41.71
with your wife... Exactly!
00:22:41.74\00:22:42.93
And then, this day
in the doctor's office,
00:22:42.96\00:22:46.52
you got this cyst
removed, and at the same time,
00:22:46.55\00:22:49.30
you got your cholesterol, and
you found out it was happening
00:22:49.33\00:22:51.00
...how were you
relating to Dr. Diehl, himself;
00:22:52.01\00:22:54.83
you know, giving the
lectures each time, at first?
00:22:54.86\00:22:57.18
Well, in the
beginning, as I told you,
00:22:57.21\00:23:00.39
I was waiting to see him
selling vitamins, or T-shirts,
00:23:00.42\00:23:04.69
and then we will go to his
retreat, and everyone will be
00:23:04.72\00:23:07.71
several thousand dollars.
00:23:07.72\00:23:09.07
You know, I... You
thought he was luring you in
00:23:09.10\00:23:11.37
Well, you watch them on
TV, and you see a lot of people
00:23:11.40\00:23:15.53
are even, right now, they
are using this high protein diet
00:23:15.56\00:23:19.88
and stuff like this, and
I'm just trying to tell you...
00:23:19.91\00:23:23.24
You were cynical... It
completely changed my life.
00:23:23.27\00:23:27.79
I found that especially
with the exercise part of it,
00:23:27.82\00:23:32.03
of going for a walk, and I
was afraid because I usually
00:23:32.06\00:23:36.01
come and we have a
2-level house; I park my car
00:23:36.04\00:23:39.80
in the garage, and
try to climb the stairs
00:23:39.83\00:23:42.14
hehh, hehh, hehh,
out-of-breath... out-of-breath
00:23:42.17\00:23:44.57
and now when I go for
my walk, I put my heart
00:23:44.60\00:23:47.89
between 120 beats per
minute, to 135 to keep me in the
00:23:47.90\00:23:53.24
cardiovascular
improvement, as he usually says,
00:23:53.27\00:23:56.17
and also in fat-burning.
00:23:56.20\00:23:58.38
And you see the
pounds are coming...
00:23:58.41\00:24:00.44
And the most fascinating
part about his system
00:24:00.47\00:24:05.15
and his way, that he allows
us to eat as much as we can.
00:24:05.18\00:24:10.66
Like I remember on my
diet, you have 8 ounces of this,
00:24:10.69\00:24:15.08
and I measured it and
I put a little more...
00:24:15.11\00:24:17.67
you know what I mean, and
you are HUNGRY all the time.
00:24:17.70\00:24:20.44
Suddenly, it was the
fresh fruits and vegetables,
00:24:20.47\00:24:23.09
and he loved something called
"mango" which is unbelievable!
00:24:23.12\00:24:26.67
I started
getting crazy on mango!
00:24:26.70\00:24:31.32
So how, let me back
up in the story now...
00:24:31.35\00:24:33.92
Things have changed,
you're feeling great...
00:24:33.95\00:24:35.59
What kind of conversations
did you have with the man
00:24:35.62\00:24:37.91
who had the Lexus... the
cardiologist, your friend.
00:24:37.94\00:24:40.18
Oh, he was so
happy to see me, he also!
00:24:40.21\00:24:44.08
What about all the other
physician friends, those others?
00:24:44.11\00:24:46.46
Well, as you can see,
it's extremely hard to change
00:24:46.49\00:24:52.92
the physicians'
ideas until they need to
00:24:52.95\00:24:56.89
experience it themselves.
00:24:56.92\00:24:58.47
You know, in the
last few minutes here,
00:24:58.50\00:25:01.63
I want to talk about...
it sounds to me, you know,
00:25:01.66\00:25:03.67
there's an energy
here as I talk to you.
00:25:03.70\00:25:07.08
There's an energy;
there's a sense of saying,
00:25:07.11\00:25:09.36
"Hey, things have
TURNED around in my life. "
00:25:09.39\00:25:12.27
And you're attributing this,
really, not just to Dr. Diehl,
00:25:12.30\00:25:15.50
or the CHIP Program,
although that's VERY impressive,
00:25:15.53\00:25:18.45
but REALLY, to GOD. EXACTLY!
00:25:18.48\00:25:20.86
Because the Lord gave us
a body to function in it.
00:25:20.89\00:25:26.98
People take care of their cars.
00:25:27.01\00:25:30.40
People take care
of a lot of things...
00:25:30.43\00:25:33.65
And the least thing they
take care of is themselves.
00:25:33.68\00:25:36.63
And this system will make you do
God's work in OPTIMUM condition.
00:25:36.66\00:25:43.51
That God gave you this
body, it was very complicated,
00:25:43.54\00:25:46.79
and at the same
time, very workable,
00:25:46.82\00:25:49.43
and then we, by abusing it,
by doing a lot of things to it,
00:25:49.46\00:25:54.78
and without maintaining it...
00:25:54.81\00:25:56.77
we end by having
all these diseases.
00:25:56.80\00:25:59.76
Like I really, right
now, and I can pray to God
00:25:59.79\00:26:03.35
that there will be someone
like unions and people who
00:26:03.38\00:26:07.40
have power over
groups of people.
00:26:07.43\00:26:10.01
If they follow this program,
there would be very less expense
00:26:10.04\00:26:15.23
on health, on
medical, and operations.
00:26:15.26\00:26:19.81
You know, for example, I
had gout for over 25 years.
00:26:19.84\00:26:24.23
Sometimes I
could not go to work.
00:26:24.26\00:26:26.84
I had my nurses to come
and get me from the car.
00:26:26.87\00:26:30.04
And now it's gone. Yes.
00:26:30.07\00:26:31.30
And also, I have something...
00:26:31.33\00:26:32.90
Every time I go
to any restaurant,
00:26:32.93\00:26:34.78
I let my kids pull me
out of the chair. Oh boy...
00:26:34.81\00:26:38.53
Because I couldn't do
it, you know what I mean?
00:26:38.56\00:26:41.56
Would you say... you know,
00:26:41.59\00:26:42.65
we've got about 1-1/2 minutes
left here in the program,
00:26:42.68\00:26:45.83
what would you say to
that person that's watching
00:26:45.86\00:26:47.74
right now, who is
right on the edge and saying,
00:26:47.77\00:26:49.55
"I don't know if I
can believe this or not. "
00:26:49.58\00:26:51.09
What would you
say to them to say,
00:26:51.10\00:26:52.36
Hey, get in to something...
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I'm going to tell you,
I was the most skeptical.
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As-a-matter-of-fact,
I thank the good Lord
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that it was Dr. Diehl
and Valerie that they did not
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kick me from the program.
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And because of
their really believing
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and their
understanding of our weakness,
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they already changed my
life, and I tell everyone
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because I follow this
program, I'm alive today.
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And my family and
I can do God's work
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and whatever the
Lord wants me to do.
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Is your wife healthier
now? Yes, much, much healthier.
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We've been
talking with Dr. Maher.
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He is EXCITED about things
that have happened in his life.
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He's been changed, not
only by the CHIP Program,
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Dr. Diehl's ministry
in that, but really by God
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who led him to the program.
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He feels BETTER.
He has more energy!
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It's been
energizing to talk to him,
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and I know that as you put
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principles like he
shared into YOUR life,
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that, really,
things can turn around.
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You can have health
that lasts for a lifetime...
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A lifetime of
MEANING, and benefit to others!
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