Hello and welcome to
"Health for a Lifetime"
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I'm your host Don Mackintosh
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We're glad you are with us.
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Also, today we have
Dr. Hans Diehl with us...
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Welcome Dr. Diehl.
Good to be here, Don
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Many times when I have
spoken with you or we've talked,
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over the years we've
talked about the "CHIP Program"
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"Coronary Health
Improvement Program"
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And just recently, you have
finished a new series of videos
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updating that with the
latest scientific information,
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all those different
things, it's a delight to watch.
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We have used it
in our community.
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I understand that these
videos are also available
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for other communities or
other groups that want to get
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the message of health out
and have a team to support them.
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Isn't that right?
Yeah, that's right
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Today, we have a very
interesting subject though,
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the brain, undernourished
or overfed, to that effect,
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and tell us a
little bit about that...
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What are we going to
be talking about today?
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Usually when we talk about
being overfed and undernourished
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we think more
about the body usually...
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Too much foods, the wrong foods,
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not the proper nutrient values.
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But could it be that we
have a similar situation
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with the brain or
some portions of the brain
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such as the frontal
lobe... are actually UNDERFED
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in contrast to the
other portions of the brain
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which are OVERFED.
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I mean, just think
about the informational age...
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we are barraged with
reports on stocks and bonds,
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and greeds and
scandals and everything else...
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And could it be that
some portions of the brain
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that take in that information,
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namely the BACK
portion of the brain,
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are actually OVERFED at
the expense of the frontal lobe
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where we store ethical values,
spiritual values, family values.
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That's the question!
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And it sounds
like, from that question,
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that you have an answer!
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Well, you see, when
you look at the brain,
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you look at the
ultimate computer.
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You have 3 pounds of gray mass,
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you have some 50-100
billion cells and they ALL work
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together... it's sort of
the ultimate computer network.
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And in this computer
network everything is stored;
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our experiences early in life;
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we can have recalls
within split seconds.
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This is the ultimate design
of electrochemical stimuli
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that are representing
many, many, many computers
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that are all hooked together.
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It's nothing
like it ever designed.
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So what you're
suggesting is that
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even though it's a great design,
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we could somehow maybe
make it be out of balance,
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or undernourish
a part or whatnot.
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You know, it's very interesting
when you think about the brain
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brain anatomists began
to map out the brain area,
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and as they probed
with special electrodes,
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while people were
sort of under anesthesia,
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they began to realize
that when you stimulated the
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back area of the
brain, that you see right now,
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then all of a sudden
they talked about figures
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and facts and
these kinds of things,
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but when they began to
stimulate the frontal lobe,
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all of a sudden,
it was different...
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Then all of a
sudden, they talked about
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"I hear music of Beethoven"
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They talked
about ethical things.
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They talked about family values.
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And you see, it's
interesting isn't it...
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that when you
have, for instance,
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a rainbow that you see,
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you see it at the
back of your brain.
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When you have a kiss,
just like you see on the video
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right now there...
when you have a kiss,
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that kiss is not being
perceived on the lips...
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No... it's back there on
the sensory strip, right there!
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And that's why somebody said...
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"Well, it's probably
all in the brain anyway"
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and it IS!
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Well, it's in your
head... it's all in your head!
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Yeah, and you have a very
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carefully
structured sensory strip.
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This sensory strip is sort
of in the middle of the brain,
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the outer cortex
here, and it picks up
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the different sensory
information in different areas.
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For instance, you
can pick up materials
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pertaining to the knees at
the very top of the strip...
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OR, when you perhaps
begin to move your trunk,
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your pick up sensor information
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right there in the
trunk or the hands,
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and so then it goes down
the line... face and neck,
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or, for instance, the
lips and the tongue...
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And please note,
look how large the area
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for the lips and the tongue is.
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This is because the
brain assigns groups of cells
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according to the
precision that is needed.
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For instance, language,
the formation of our lips...
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all of that takes a lot
more groups of brain cells,
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so you have much more territory
assigned on the sensory strip.
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So I've heard
this... that an elephant,
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they have such a
large brain because
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they have to
operate the trunk. YES!
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And all that goes
right to the nose.
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Well for instance, if
you happen to have a stroke,
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right there... you see
those 3 little areas there? Yes
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This is now
affecting the mouth area,
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and perhaps the tongue area,
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and that person will not
receive sensory information
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after a stroke pertaining
to the mouth and the tongue,
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and, therefore, they might have
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speech
impediments after a stroke.
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Problems talking
and all that. Yes
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But aside from
that sensory strip,
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you have another
strip right next to it,
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and that's
called the "motor strip"
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and here now, you
have information that is
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coming into the sensory strip
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and within milliseconds
that information is translated
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and being pushed
towards the motor strip,
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and it now activates
things on the motor strip.
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For instance, if
you hurt your knee,
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this is the information
that comes to your brain
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and goes to the sensory strip
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where the knee is
located. Right? Um hm
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And THEN, it immediately
is being transferred to the
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motor strip so that you
begin to jerk your knee.
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And all of this
happens in split seconds...
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It's all integrated very,
very carefully and processed.
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Amazing! It really is!
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So here again
now... when you look at the
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motor strip, you
again see the lips are
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UNUSUALLY large in the space
that these brain cells occupy.
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Again, just think
about how we form our lips;
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how we form words
and how all these muscles
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have to work
together to produce language,
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and that's why somehow, we
have a larger area right there.
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So the sensory strip and the
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motor strip, they
are closely aligned.
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So when we are
involved in a bad habit,
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say... smoking which has
the lips and these different
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things involved in it,
would that be the reason
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it's so hard to
change that habit...
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because there is such
a pattern right there?
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Yeah, it could very well be.
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You have to develop sort of a
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brain-rut type
of a thing, right?
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And, every time
you do something,
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it gets into that
same pattern again.
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So we want to
break-up the pattern somehow.
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Yeah, we want to
break-up that pattern.
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Feed the right
place and not the...
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Yeah, but then the question
is, how do we really do this?
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So we have to be concerned
about the sensory strip,
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and we have to be
concerned about the motor strip
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because THAT'S where
things are happening.
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Well what about
the frontal lobe then?
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What role does it play?
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That looks like midbrain
what we've been talking about...
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What does the frontal lobe do?
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Well, maybe I can tell
you a story. I love stories!
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It happened at
Harvard University.
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A young man by the name
of "Phineas Gage" was temping
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dynamite and somehow,
as he was working there,
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the dynamite exploded and
sent one of these iron rods
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from his lower eye
right through the frontal lobe
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coming out again and
everybody was concerned about
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Phineas Gage - what
would happen to him?
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Did he die?
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That's the amazing thing!
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He did not die but
this wound actually healed.
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But something happened!
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Phineas Gage,
after this accident,
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was no longer the
same Phineas Gage!
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You see, before this accident,
he was very responsible,
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he was devoted to one
woman, he was a family man,
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he was reliable.
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He was just a high
character kind of a person!
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Ethical, moral, all
those different things. Yeah!
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And then something happened,
this accident took place,
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and all of a
sudden Phineas Gage was
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no longer Phineas Gage.
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He was no longer the
dependable person that
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would come to work on time.
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He was no longer
the devoted husband.
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He would now follow more the
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wine, women and song
kind of a motto of life.
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Something had
happened, something had changed
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the taproot of his personality;
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it was no longer
the same Phineas Gage...
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And it was later
that researchers began to
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understand that what
had actually happened was
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that the frontal
lobe had been damaged
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where you have ethical values,
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family values,
spiritual values located,
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and when you
damage that frontal lobe,
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something then can
happen to the person.
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So here on the graphic then,
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is this the part
you're talking about?
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This was the
part that was damaged?
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Yeah, that's correct.
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And it just took
that out? Interesting!
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Yeah, and you see
as a result of this...
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his personality began to change,
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his temperament began to change,
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the ethical values were
now being changed and modified,
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his judgment was
no longer quite there,
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and his religious
values all of a sudden
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had a different connotation.
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So then it's the frontal
lobe where these values reside,
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and my question is...
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Could it be - that in
our society which emphasizes
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informational pieces,
information overload...
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Yeah, data,
statistics, facts and figures,
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that feeds the back
portion of the brain...
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Could it be that the
back portion of our brains
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is overloaded-overfed and maybe,
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at the expense of a balance,
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where you have then, also
the feeding of the frontal lobe;
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responsibility,
temperament and so on.
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So, out of balance...
that's an excellent question.
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Could it be that we're feeding
the back portions of the brain
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while neglecting
the front portions,
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or in other words,
having a self-induced
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lobotomy
so-to-speak where we're doing a
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Phineas Gage on
ourselves, excellent question!
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We've been talking
with Dr. Hans Diehl
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We're talking about the brain...
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Are we feeding the
right parts the right things
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in the right way?
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When we come back, we're
going to answer that question,
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and we hope you'll join us!
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Welcome back, we've been
talking with Dr. Hans Diehl
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and we've been
talking about the BRAIN,
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and more
specifically the frontal lobe.
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Dr. Diehl, I have a
question about this story...
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about Phineas Gage.
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He was the one that had that
self-induced frontal lobotomy
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with that rod going
through his brain...
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Did it just affect his
character and personality?
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Was anything else
damaged in his brain?
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Did it affect his memory?
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That's very interesting...
it did not affect his brain
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in terms of memory
function or intelligence,
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but it affected his will
power and his moral values.
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So he was coordinated,
able to walk to work
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do all those
different things? Everything!
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He could remember who he was
and everything, he just was...
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Well it seems that the taproot
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of his personality had been
changed - that was the big thing
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...the taproot of
his personality was CUT,
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the frontal lobe
had become affected.
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So he was just operating on
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the other portions of his brain
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rather than
frontally through that part.
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Well there's a
famous Russian scientist,
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Dr. Luria, and
he recently said...
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This is a Russian scientist.
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Dr. Bernell Baldwin, as a brain
physiologist recently said...
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"When you look at the
frontal lobe, the frontal lobe
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is the front seat
driver of the brain. "
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Now it's almost like
a symphony conductor...
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The frontal lobe integrates,
synthesizes, brings together,
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creates balance,
spiritual values,
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service orientation...
these kind of things
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are seated in that frontal lobe,
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and that's the
symphonic conductor...
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if that's indeed
the symphonic conductor
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you will hear
music instead of noise.
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So aside from having a terrible
injury like Phineas Gage,
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could we be inducing frontal
lobe damage by things we do
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as Americans or as individuals,
maybe not just in America,
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but wherever in
our own lifestyle?
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There are probably
various ways of how you can
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damage the frontal lobe
and how you can build it.
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You can damage it by perhaps
playing down the sense of
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responsibility,
making ethical judgments,
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and basically perhaps focusing
on facts and data and so on.
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You can also harm this by
alcohol, by habit patterns
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that are now emerging
as being perhaps not in the
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best interest of
health; they now appear to be
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irresponsible choices.
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So you can damage the
frontal lobe by our behaviors
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but we can also build it up.
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Let's come to that
building up in just a minute,
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but one of the things
that damages it is alcohol.
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What would be some other foods
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or different things
that would damage it?
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Well, I don't know if
there are specific foods,
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but I would think that,
for instance, when you have
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a pension for violent
exposures via movies or
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becoming involved
in violent behaviors.
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These are then
things that perhaps
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damage the frontal lobe.
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It's not just the physical
damage that I talked about
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in Phineas Gage's situation,
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but it could also be these
kind of things that we embrace
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...visual things that
come into our frontal lobe.
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So we need to be
careful about what we eat,
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what we drink, what we see,
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what we hear... all
those different things.
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Well you know, I kind of
wonder what the effect of
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soap operas might
be on the frontal lobe.
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You know... allurements!
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These are all things
that perhaps don't build
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that sense of
having a balanced lifestyle
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to shape the ethical values
that we were called to have.
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So by beholding, we're changed.
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Yeah, yeah, you can
behold different things.
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You can behold
violence, or you can behold,
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shall we say... family values.
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You can, perhaps,
become concerned about
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how to take care of my kids...
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How can I make time
for my children so I am
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a father that is involved in
shaping the destiny of my kids.
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I mean these are all values that
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relate to giving of
yourself, serving others,
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nobility of purpose, LOVE...
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These are all
values that apparently
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influence the frontal lobe.
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Let's say someone is
watching today and they
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accidently turned to 3ABN
instead of their soap opera...
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and they realized that
they are just hooked on
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this particular
soap opera, and they just
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watch it again and again
and maybe they want to change it
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What are some of the good things
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they can do to replace that?
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Yeah... what are
they going to do?
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Well first of all, I
think you want to, perhaps
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expose yourself
to some other things.
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You know, maybe you
want to read a biography or
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perhaps pick up a
video that talks about...
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shall we just say... the
life of Albert Schweitzer
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...A man who was
a great organist,
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well-known,
famous, and yet he was
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drawn by the needs in Africa,
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and then turned
his life around and now
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became involved
in serving others...
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maybe that would be one step.
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So read biographies,
read meaningful history,
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read these types of things
that there are noble characters
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that we're focusing on.
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Yeah but I think it
has to go beyond that...
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I think once we
become more aware that our
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greatest joy in life, really,
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comes by being of service
to others.. in a proper way,
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once we realize that there's
a nobility in becoming involved
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in the
betterment of our society,
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then we have to just
go beyond that recognition
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and do something about it.
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And that
means... what can we do?
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So we can then focus
on these noble characters;
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we can maybe read the Bible,
look at the life of Christ,
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all these different things
and this is going to help us
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in our actions and different
things as well... Anything else?
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Yeah, it will
balance our personality,
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it will drive the personality
in a more balanced fashion.
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You know when I was doing
the CHIP Program in India,
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I ran across a story of
one of the Indian philosophers,
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and the story is
told of an affluent man,
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a Brahmin in the Himalayas...
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It was wintertime, it was cold,
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and as he was on his way
home, he saw some human wreckage
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on the sidewalk,
a drunken body...
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And he first tried to make his
way home and ignore what he saw,
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and then he thought about that.
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He went back and he picked
up this bundle of humanity,
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he put it on his back...
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It was cold and he dragged this
man home and took care of him.
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The next morning, the
light came on in his mind,
00:20:04.80\00:20:10.53
and he realized that
this man, this human wreckage,
00:20:10.56\00:20:15.37
had actually given HIM the
human warmth that he needed
00:20:15.38\00:20:19.25
to make it home
without freezing to death.
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So here it is...
as you serve others,
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you also, I guess, find
true happiness yourself.
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And that's what you found in
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serving others in the CHIP
Program around the world too.
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Yeah, that's correct,
but it really all comes down
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in the end, I think, at least
for me to one basic question.
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You know... What is
really the purpose of our life?
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And you know, I'm reminded
of this light bulb here...
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You know, this has something
to do with our purpose of life.
00:20:46.82\00:20:52.14
This light bulb
can look pretty good...
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We can look pretty
good on the outside;
00:20:56.82\00:20:58.45
we could smell good.
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We get all powdered
after coming on the set here.
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You know, the
wrinkles are all taken care of.
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Well ALMOST all.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha...
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And so, everything
looks good, but you know,
00:21:08.90\00:21:11.81
the purpose of life
REALLY, to me at least,
00:21:11.84\00:21:15.67
is to better the
life of someone else;
00:21:15.68\00:21:21.41
to illumine the
pathway of someone else.
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You see, life can look
pretty good on the outside...
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You got your BMW in the garage.
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Your house is paid for.
00:21:30.61\00:21:32.18
Everything looks
nice on the outside...
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BUT if you are not
connected on the inside,
00:21:34.19\00:21:37.22
if there is no central
mooring to a source of power -
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when the symphony conductor
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is not there to make
music out of your life,
00:21:45.82\00:21:49.46
and it's just noise,
then we begin to realize
00:21:49.49\00:21:52.28
that maybe something is missing,
00:21:52.31\00:21:53.69
maybe we're not plugged in.
00:21:53.72\00:21:55.35
Maybe just like this
filament inside this light bulb,
00:21:55.38\00:21:58.51
if that filament is broken or
that filament is not connected
00:21:58.54\00:22:02.19
to the power net,
there's nothing going to happen.
00:22:02.22\00:22:04.79
It just looks good but
it doesn't do anything.
00:22:04.82\00:22:05.93
Yeah, but if it
is connected, LOOK!
00:22:05.96\00:22:09.55
That's right!
You see, and I think
00:22:09.58\00:22:10.60
THAT to me at least has
become an illustration of
00:22:10.63\00:22:13.82
the purpose of life.
00:22:13.85\00:22:15.36
If my life does not illumine
the pathway of someone else,
00:22:15.39\00:22:22.35
then it's not really
lived in its fullest sense.
00:22:22.38\00:22:26.92
And so, I have found in my
own life, that by being able to
00:22:26.93\00:22:30.88
respond and to give and to
make a part of my thinking,
00:22:30.91\00:22:35.56
and feeling of being
other-person-oriented,
00:22:35.59\00:22:39.39
it doesn't quite have that
00:22:39.42\00:22:40.94
quality that is now
so meaningful to me...
00:22:40.97\00:22:43.25
And that is one of the
reasons why the CHIP Program,
00:22:43.28\00:22:46.22
the "Coronary
Health Improvement Project"
00:22:46.23\00:22:48.19
has become such a great
JOY to me because through it
00:22:48.22\00:22:50.89
people can learn responsibility;
00:22:50.92\00:22:53.38
they can learn how to make
some simple lifestyle changes
00:22:53.41\00:22:56.72
and the hypertension
disappears, they lose weight,
00:22:56.75\00:23:00.44
their
cholesterol does goes down,
00:23:00.45\00:23:03.04
the heart disease diminishes,
00:23:03.07\00:23:05.32
the diabetes, oftentimes,
is no longer there...
00:23:05.35\00:23:09.18
And that gives
me a PROFOUND JOY,
00:23:09.21\00:23:12.07
And I know that,
you see, then my life
00:23:12.10\00:23:15.36
hopefully will illumine
the pathway of someone else
00:23:15.39\00:23:20.20
and maybe of
whole towns or cities.
00:23:20.23\00:23:24.34
Now I notice here
in your video series,
00:23:24.37\00:23:27.84
and of course I've used it
in the community that I'm from,
00:23:27.87\00:23:31.39
and we've had about 700 people
00:23:31.42\00:23:32.81
go through the
program where we are...
00:23:32.84\00:23:34.34
Currently now,
they're running a program,
00:23:34.37\00:23:37.23
and they run them
several times a year,
00:23:37.26\00:23:39.12
and there are different people
from all walks of life there...
00:23:39.15\00:23:42.43
But what I
notice in that program,
00:23:42.46\00:23:44.04
you talk about
the light going on,
00:23:44.07\00:23:45.49
and I want to see whether or not
00:23:45.52\00:23:46.94
you agree with me on this...
00:23:46.97\00:23:48.32
You present... I mean
I have people that come
00:23:48.35\00:23:51.40
YOU KNOW... to the
program and they've been
00:23:51.43\00:23:54.60
somehow dragged there by
circumstances... Their wives!
00:23:54.63\00:23:58.99
Maybe their wife
is "Mrs. Circumstance"
00:23:59.02\00:24:01.58
I don't know or
whatever, and they're there...
00:24:01.61\00:24:03.57
And they are not
really happy to be there,
00:24:03.60\00:24:06.01
but then the information
starts to come to them...
00:24:06.04\00:24:09.92
And, I don't know, maybe
that's midbrain information
00:24:09.95\00:24:12.97
because there's a lot of
facts and different things
00:24:13.00\00:24:15.15
and it kind of moves
maybe from the back...
00:24:15.18\00:24:17.38
You get them up there walking
around or the program does.
00:24:17.41\00:24:20.30
In our particular
thing, we have a map
00:24:20.33\00:24:22.02
where they're walking
along and they're starting to
00:24:22.05\00:24:25.99
drink water... which they never
00:24:26.02\00:24:27.30
drank water before, all
those different things...
00:24:27.34\00:24:29.27
And THEN, pretty soon about,
I think it's about week 2,
00:24:29.30\00:24:32.37
and, you
correct me if I'm wrong,
00:24:32.38\00:24:33.75
it seems as though THEN,
up here, they start saying...
00:24:33.78\00:24:36.72
"Wait a minute"
They make a decision
00:24:36.75\00:24:39.61
that this is good rather than
being, what would you say...
00:24:39.64\00:24:43.24
tolerated - Is
that what you see?
00:24:43.27\00:24:45.92
Yeah, I think after about
2 weeks on the CHIP Program,
00:24:45.95\00:24:49.18
the benefits are
coming to these people.
00:24:49.21\00:24:51.32
You know there are
sometimes many mundane things
00:24:51.33\00:24:53.49
like the constipation
problem becomes alleviated...
00:24:53.50\00:24:59.44
Then the light comes on! Right?
00:24:59.47\00:25:00.51
Well, this is
very important, yes.
00:25:00.54\00:25:02.12
Or the blood pressure goes down,
00:25:02.15\00:25:03.90
and they have now
HOPE again in life.
00:25:03.93\00:25:06.09
And as we begin to move
into the 3rd and 4th week,
00:25:06.12\00:25:08.42
and we begin to talk
about... we actually talk about
00:25:08.45\00:25:11.04
the purpose of life!
00:25:11.07\00:25:12.66
Because health is not just
eating right and exercising,
00:25:12.69\00:25:15.87
but it's also... How
do you treat yourself...
00:25:15.90\00:25:18.21
and how do you treat
your fellow human being?
00:25:18.24\00:25:20.36
I mean, you can eat
ALL the alfalfa sprouts
00:25:20.39\00:25:23.07
and if you abuse your
wife verbally or you are lying
00:25:23.10\00:25:29.37
to cover yourself in
an employment situation,
00:25:29.40\00:25:32.10
you're not really healthy!
00:25:32.13\00:25:33.37
"Healthy" then has to
do with being BALANCED.
00:25:33.38\00:25:35.93
"Healthy" has to do
with EMOTIONAL HEALTH,
00:25:35.96\00:25:38.01
PHYSICAL HEALTH, SOCIAL HEALTH,
00:25:38.04\00:25:40.48
and SPIRITUAL HEALTH...
00:25:40.51\00:25:42.35
And I think that's ULTIMATELY
where a lot of meaning
00:25:42.38\00:25:47.12
comes to people as they begin
to identify with the finest
00:25:47.13\00:25:50.85
Role Model available.
00:25:50.88\00:25:53.27
In other words, probably Christ,
00:25:53.30\00:25:55.44
is that what
you're referring to? Yes
00:25:55.47\00:25:57.48
And I think the
Bible puts it this way...
00:25:57.51\00:25:59.63
It says, "... The
Light that lighteth
00:25:59.66\00:26:01.17
EVERY man is
coming into the world"
00:26:01.20\00:26:03.83
This is the whole idea.
00:26:03.84\00:26:05.55
You know, in our
personal experience,
00:26:05.58\00:26:09.56
then with the CHIP Program,
00:26:09.59\00:26:10.72
and then with the interaction
00:26:10.75\00:26:13.75
we have with
these different people,
00:26:13.78\00:26:15.08
we see them then trying...
00:26:15.09\00:26:17.37
Well, what I find and,
again, correct me if I'm wrong
00:26:17.40\00:26:20.06
with your experience,
but what I find is that
00:26:20.09\00:26:22.20
the people that are
long-term successful,
00:26:22.23\00:26:24.78
are the ones that
move to that frontal lobe
00:26:24.79\00:26:28.29
spiritual
consideration, is that right?
00:26:28.32\00:26:30.30
And that's why we
cannot leave it out.
00:26:30.33\00:26:32.76
It's one of the basic
ingredients of good health...
00:26:32.79\00:26:36.62
How to feed the
frontal lobe and strengthen it,
00:26:36.65\00:26:39.85
so that we are not
overfeed in the wrong area,
00:26:39.86\00:26:43.28
and undernourished
in the frontal lobe.
00:26:43.31\00:26:45.99
A couple of weeks
ago, in our CHIP Program,
00:26:46.02\00:26:49.20
we had the privilege of
having a friend of yours,
00:26:49.23\00:26:51.13
Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn with us,
00:26:51.16\00:26:53.11
and you know, as I talked
with this wonderful gentleman,
00:26:53.14\00:26:57.23
I saw that, in his way of
dealing with patients as well,
00:26:57.26\00:27:02.14
really, when it came down
to it, the personal interaction
00:27:02.17\00:27:05.64
that he was having with people
00:27:05.67\00:27:07.01
was helping them learn how
to feed that frontal lobe...
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And he was,
what would you say...
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spending personal time
with these individuals,
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opening his home, his heart,
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had a monthly
phone call with them,
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and his study, as
you've referenced in your
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CHIP Program many
times, is one of the longest
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running study that
shows long-term success.
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You see, he was not just doing
it as a professional person
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fee-for-service, but he was
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genuinely caring
for his patients,
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invested himself in their lives,
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and that's what made
all the difference, I think.
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We've been talking
with Dr. Hans Diehl
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He has given us facts
that can feed not only
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the back of our brain
and the middle of our brain,
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but can help us
nourish that frontal lobe
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and, thereby, serve
others, serve the Lord,
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and have health that
lasts for a lifetime!
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