Participants: Don Mackintosh, Bernell Baldwin
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000053
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00:47 Welcome to "Health for a Lifetime"
00:48 I'm your host Don Mackintosh 00:50 and today, I'm delighted to welcome Dr. Bernell Baldwin 00:53 from Wildwood, and you are a neurophysiologist. Right 00:59 Before you were at Wildwood, you taught medical students, 01:02 and other students, and have lectured many places. 01:05 Your Ph. D. was in what? Brain science. 01:08 And what did you study back then? 01:10 Back then, at George Washington University, 01:13 I got a master's degree in physiology, 01:16 and a doctor's degree in neurophysiology, 01:20 with particular emphasis of the brain on the heart... 01:24 And how the heart TICKS, 01:27 and how the brain can shape this ticking. 01:30 Well today, we're going to be talking about heart disease, 01:32 and so you're going to bring some of that information 01:34 to us, I'm sure... 01:35 But you recently attended a big conference... 01:38 Tell us about that. 01:39 Well, the American Heart Association, 01:42 at the yearly meetings in Atlanta, Georgia... 01:45 I was there on assignment from the 01:47 "Journal of Health and Healing" 01:49 and would like to bring to you, in a few minutes, 01:51 the cream of the heart meetings! 01:54 Okay, great! What's the big news? 01:58 The BIG news is from Cleveland Clinic. 02:02 They analyzed with the latest techniques, 02:06 the coronary arteries of young people, 02:09 and here's what they found... 02:10 One out of 6 American teenagers has got atherosclerosis NOW. 02:17 So hardening of the arteries, 1 out of 6 teenagers, 02:20 13 years old? Yes, it starts young. 02:25 Other researchers have shown that occasionally a baby boy 02:29 will have earliest damage in the heart just after birth. 02:36 How can that be? 02:38 Because of the lifestyle of the parents. 02:41 So the type of formula, the type of what? 02:44 The type of blood going through the placenta 02:47 from what mother is eating... I see 02:50 And also, these diseases are commonly multifactorial. 02:56 If mother is angry, if mother is not peaceful, 03:03 and loved, and is not secure, 03:08 this can have effect on the question. 03:11 Okay... 1 out of 6 teenagers have got it in America now. 03:17 In 20 years of age, way up into the 20% 03:21 have got atherosclerosis now, 03:24 and by 40 years of age... 03:26 ...now if this is all you've got in this whole program, 03:28 you would get your times worth... 03:31 By 40 years of age, 70% of Americans have got 03:36 atherosclerosis of the coronary artery NOW! 03:40 So what we mean by the coronary artery then is 03:44 the crowning artery... that's what coronary means. Yes 03:47 Does that mean that this atherosclerosis starts 03:49 somewhere else and then finally gets to the 03:51 coronary artery? Or does it start there? 03:53 It starts there and here's why... 03:55 Because every time the heart beats, the heart is stretched, 03:59 the arteries are bent, they're twisted, 04:04 and technically they're tethered, 04:07 fastened at the heart, and when they're pulled 04:09 at the bottom, this puts BIG STRESS on the 04:12 coronary arteries EVERY TIME the heart beats. 04:14 So that's where the disease actually STARTS. Right! 04:17 It doesn't start like in the aorta or somewhere else. Right 04:20 It starts right there. Right 04:22 Okay. Where are the coronary arteries on your model here? 04:26 "Left main" would be right there under my finger. 04:31 And here comes the "left anterior descending" 04:34 right down here... that RED line 04:36 So-called "widow-maker" 04:38 The widow-maker is up here, the left main, 04:41 and you have the "circumflex" going around the back, 04:44 and you have the "right coronary" 04:45 going over the other side; 3 main ones 04:48 This one right here is the BIG problem... YES 04:53 So then, you were saying by 40 years of age, 04:56 70% have the problem. 05:00 How BIG is the problem that they have? 05:02 SIGNIFICANT! PLAQUES! 05:05 And this means that the average middle-aged person you meet 05:10 has got atherosclerosis right now, and they don't know it. 05:16 They have the idea that heart attacks are like 05:18 banana peelings with fatalism, 05:21 and if you get a heart attack, well, you go to the hospital. 05:25 ...Not realizing that in a few years after the heart 05:30 gets atherosclerosis, the brain gets it, 05:32 so you get brain attacks 10 or 15 years 05:36 after the heart attacks. 05:38 So why is this so silent, and you've heard of sudden deaths 05:43 probably, how big a problem is sudden death in this age group? 05:48 Well, sudden death wouldn't be too common, 05:53 but, of course, the commonest 05:54 cause of death in America would be coronary artery disease, 05:58 and this is a very big problem. 06:00 But the implications of this are fantastic. 06:02 This means, folks, that the American lifestyle is 06:07 failing us miserably, not just a little bit, miserably! 06:13 This means the AVERAGE American 06:16 is in BIG trouble without knowing it. 06:19 So why is it so silent, the disease... 06:22 Why aren't there some more warning signs? 06:24 Well, because plaques do not have nerves in them. 06:29 So you don't sense it, you don't feel it. 06:32 You don't feel it, and it's unnoticed. 06:37 So what we need to do then is to get early 06:40 checkups; we need to have more treadmill tests, 06:43 more cholesterol tests, more careful histories... 06:48 about smoking history. Why smoking? 06:51 Ostra, Denmark was the first one to show 06:55 with scanning electron microscopy that nicotine, 06:59 or carbon monoxide of any kind of any source, 07:02 will put holes in the lining of the coronary artery 07:06 so that normal cholesterol levels will push the LDL 07:10 RIGHT through those little holes 07:12 and give you plaques and 07:15 heart attacks with a normal cholesterol level. 07:17 So that carbon monoxide in the smoke does that. Right! 07:22 Daddy's smoke, mother's smoke, will do this. 07:26 What types of screening can you do to see where 07:30 you are right now besides total 07:32 cholesterol like you mentioned. A good blood test, 07:35 a REAL good history, and then a treadmill test 07:39 would be indicated... 07:41 And, if they failed the treadmill test, 07:43 or if the physician's judgment indicates otherwise, 07:46 there are other tests that could be done, 07:48 even to the tune of an angiogram in some cases 07:53 would be very much indicated to nip this thing in the BUD, 07:56 so it could be turned around and people could LIVE 08:00 instead of retiring being cardiac invalids. 08:05 So, what are some of the first symptoms? 08:07 I know most people, it's silent, but what are some of the 08:10 first symptoms if you are having heart disease? 08:12 Pain in the chest. Pain in the left arm. 08:15 Pain in the right arm. Pain in the chest. 08:18 Pain going up the neck. 08:20 Occasionally, pain in the jaw. 08:22 Shortness of breath. 08:24 Those are some of the FIRST signs... Yes 08:27 And then they can get a terrible CRUSHING substernal pain 08:33 that lasts and it doesn't fade away. 08:37 Then they need to go to the hospital NOW, not tomorrow, NOW 08:42 Here's why, folks... 08:44 When you go to the hospital IMMEDIATELY 08:48 with these telltale signs, many times they can dissolve 08:54 that clot and CURE you... 08:57 Or at least, get on top of the situation, 09:00 instead of ruining the heart muscle. 09:04 Because, when the coronary is shut, 09:08 that section of the muscle may DIE, 09:11 and who wants a pump that is one-quarter, one-third, 09:17 or one-half SHUT? 09:20 No, this is not the way to live. 09:24 So, early checkups starting at age 25? More than that? 09:30 Yes, it depends if the family history is prominent, 09:34 then earlier than that. 09:35 They say this... 09:37 Heart disease is a pediatric disease. 09:41 You see, a third of our children and young people 09:43 are OBESE these days... 09:45 And with the junk food they are feeding in high schools, 09:47 with the JUNK food they are selling on television, 09:50 and with the terrible appetites that people have, 09:53 we need to get on top of this... 09:55 So the distinct contribution of this program today to AMERICA 09:59 is that AMERICA has got this disease, 10:03 and we need to understand it; 10:06 we need to STOP it, and we need to turn it around 10:09 as a society, not just occasional patient 10:13 here and there... getting serious about atherosclerosis. 10:18 But realistically, isn't that kind of pie-in-the-sky 10:21 to think about that we could really effect change like that? 10:24 I mean, most people have their habits, 10:26 they have... what they like and they are not going to change 10:30 and they'd rather have a pill. 10:31 What can we do to really change it? 10:33 Yes... well, we can raise their consciousness, 10:36 and we could explain to them and teach them, 10:38 so that the WISE people, the SMART people 10:41 can get serious about this epidemic. 10:44 And, the ones that are really in trouble need to go to a 10:47 lifestyle center where they have serious nutrition, 10:52 where they have socially reinforced exercise, 10:55 and where they have good Christian stress control. 11:01 It's the best kind there is! 11:03 Now, when did we first start hearing about heart disease? 11:07 Heart disease... In terms of atherosclerosis 11:10 Oh my, in the 50s. 11:13 And what brought it to our attention? 11:15 The sequelae of the rich diet in America. 11:20 Less exercise or work and more eating, more silverware 11:24 So this was right after World War II 11:29 The thing to answer your question a little more deeply... 11:32 President Eisenhower's heart attack alerted the whole country 11:37 And, here's what they aren't telling you about Eisenhower... 11:40 Two physiologists, fitness experts, tested 11:46 young school children, and they found out that 11:50 American school children were WEAKER, 11:53 had less fixed flexibility, less endurance, 11:57 and less physical FITNESS than Europeans. 12:00 And when Eisenhower found out about this, 12:02 he said, "We're going to stop this" 12:05 And so he flew out to Colorado, played 27 holes of golf 12:09 in one day and ate 2 big hamburgers... 12:12 and got him a heart attack! 12:14 All because he wanted to show people how healthy he was. Yes! 12:18 And then when Kennedy made the same discovery, 12:21 since he was a semi-invalid already, 12:23 he had other people do the exercise. 12:26 Who do you mean "Kennedy" THE KENNEDY! JOHN! 12:31 The father of the... No, the PRESIDENT. 12:34 The President... Yeah 12:36 Yeah, he had a physical therapist visit him 12:39 in the White House and they put a swimming pool 12:41 in the basement so that he could get exercise in private. 12:46 And so this brought it to the attention... 12:47 Of course, now explain that... 12:49 Why did Eisenhower have a heart attack 12:52 after those 2 big hamburgers and 27 holes of golf? 12:55 Yeah, because excess exercise does 2 things in the blood. 13:01 #1... It makes the platelets more sticky and more pushy 13:06 to clots... Because of dehydration? 13:09 No, because of catecholamines... 13:11 And these platelets instead of staying apart, 13:13 they STICK TOGETHER and they stick to the 13:15 coronary arteries and they go like this... 13:17 stick, stick, stick, PLUG! 13:21 So the platelets are the things that make a clot, 13:23 and when we overdo exercise... 13:25 In other words, if you're watching this and you say... 13:27 "Okay, I'm not going to have heart disease, 13:29 I'm going to go out and exercise all day today," 13:30 ...it's not a good idea. Moderation! 13:34 We've got evidence on this. 13:38 "New England Journal of Medicine", 12/02/93, 13:43 Lead article from Boston, 2,000 patients. 13:47 Second article from Augsburg, Germany, about 2,000 patients 13:51 And here's what people have never heard of... 13:53 They don't know that jogging makes the platelets 13:59 more sticky and clumpy. 14:01 Any exercise that is 6 met intensity... 14:06 That means like pushing your car in the snow all by yourself. 14:10 This means like COMPETITIVE tennis. 14:13 This means like RACQUETBALL. 14:15 This means like... a panting basketball. 14:19 All of those activities do 2 things to the blood... 14:22 I already mentioned platelets. 14:24 #2... The liver doesn't have enough nutritive blood flow 14:28 in the liver to keep you plasma and enzymes proper level, 14:34 so that you have a double whammy... 14:37 Too much clot pushing with the adrenalin, 14:41 and the catecholamines, and not enough 14:43 plasma to dissolve the clot. 14:45 So the net effect is, the New England Journal of Medicine 14:48 estimates, 25,000 extra deaths 14:53 every year because of immoderate exercise. 14:57 So, should we never play basketball or these 14:59 different kinds of things, or jog, or this kind of thing? 15:01 What's the best kind of exercise? Not panting! 15:03 Walking is much better, swimming, 15:06 a descent speed bicycle, 15:10 working in the garden... much better. 15:12 The ideal exercise would be a genesis exercise... gardening! 15:19 So really, you know, you hear people say that... 15:21 you have to have the heart rate 15:22 in a certain target zone; it has to be there 15:24 for 20 minutes or 30 minutes. You don't... 15:26 That's shot years ago. 15:28 Okay, so what do you need to do? 15:31 You need the training effect for the heart muscle, 15:34 and this can be obtained very nicely by 15:36 a little longer interval exercise in which you 15:40 train the heart muscle and your body muscles, 15:43 and you also unwind the stress 15:47 from the boss and the environment. 15:50 We're talking with Dr. Bernell Baldwin 15:52 We're talking about heart disease. 15:54 We're looking at some new evidence and different things 15:56 that I think that you'll be very interested in. 15:58 We want you to AVOID heart attacks... 16:00 in all those that you love as well, 16:02 and to do the things that can lead to health. 16:04 Come back and we'll talk about some practical applications. 16:07 Hope you join us! 16:13 Have you found yourself wishing that you could shed a few pounds 16:17 Have you been on a diet for most of your life, 16:19 but not found anything that will really keep the weight off? 16:22 If you've answered "yes" to any of these questions, 16:25 then we have a solution for you that works! 16:27 Dr. Hans Diehl and Dr. Aileen Ludington 16:30 have written a marvelous booklet called... 16:32 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 16:35 and we'd like to send it to you FREE of charge! 16:37 Here's a medically sound approach successfully used 16:40 by thousands who were able to eat more, and lose weight 16:43 permanently without feeling guilty or hungry 16:46 through lifestyle medicine. 16:48 Dr. Diehl and Dr. Ludington have been featured on 3ABN 16:51 and in this booklet, they present a sensible approach 16:54 to eating, nutrition and lifestyle changes 16:57 that can help you prevent heart disease, diabetes, 16:59 and EVEN cancer. 17:01 Call or write today for your free copy of... 17:03 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 17:05 and you could be on your way to a healthier, happier YOU! 17:08 It's ABSOLUTELY free of charge, so call or write today. 17:15 Welcome back, we've been talking with Dr. Bernell Baldwin 17:18 about heart disease. 17:19 This is really an area of specialty for you. 17:21 You've been interested in the 17:22 heart and the brain for a long time... Yes 17:24 One of the things that you mentioned before the break 17:26 that I want to come back to is this idea of 17:29 very competitive sports... basketball... panting... things 17:32 You're suggesting MODERATE exercise is better. 17:36 What about competition and its effect on the heart? 17:40 Is it good or is it bad, and why or why not? 17:43 The trouble with competition is this... 17:45 It does more for the ego than it does your heart. 17:50 Competition raises the stress hormones. 17:53 Competition spoils the microcirculation. 17:56 Concept: The ultimate circulation is microcirculation. 18:02 And we want the small blood vessels in the liver to be open. 18:07 In competition, the shortcuts called "shunts"... 18:11 they open and the little vessels shut... 18:15 And when the shunt is open, the enzymology of the liver 18:19 is compromised; hence, the plasmin goes down in the liver; 18:22 hence the clots; hence... 18:25 When you try to push a car out of the snow all by yourself, 18:28 you can do yourself in. 18:31 Okay, so let me summarize that again... 18:33 There was a lot of big words there. 18:35 What you're saying is that just by the way you're thinking, 18:38 the competitive mode, it sends a message to 18:41 different parts of the body that kind of shortcut things... 18:44 The blood doesn't get everywhere it needs to be, 18:46 and so that type of exercise is not as healthy. Right! 18:49 So if you have Mr. X running behind Mr. Z 18:52 and he's going because he wants to beat him, 18:55 rather than just for the exercise, that's unhealthy! 18:58 Right! Right! For all concerned, 19:00 and it compromises digestion in the stomach; 19:04 it compromises JOINT physiology; 19:08 it compromises blood pressure control because you get 19:11 too much spasm all over the place, 19:13 and not enough relaxation of blood vessels. 19:16 Can you get this effect by just watching someone 19:18 who's involved in competitive sports? Of course! 19:21 It's damaging to even watch competitive sports? 19:24 YES, since you ask. 19:28 Well I'm asking a neurophysiologist, 19:30 I might as well as ask while you're here. 19:31 So, if I'm watching a basketball game, and I'm a couch potato, 19:35 and I'm going "YES, GO, GO, GO" my liver is shunting 19:38 and all that stuff you're talking about? 19:40 To a degree! It wouldn't be perhaps as serious 19:42 as if you were losing on the basketball court... 19:47 BUT, it's not the best! 19:52 When Margie and I bought our last home, 19:54 there was a great BIG propane tank in the back of the house... 19:57 We sent the thing to town; I chopped my own wood. 20:03 Split my own wood. We burn our own wood. 20:07 I get warm 3 times; 1. Fixing the wood. 20:11 2. By the fireside. 3. In my heart! 20:17 Okay, so that's meaningful exercise, but you're not 20:20 competing, you're wife is not out there splitting wood 20:22 with you, so there's no competition. Right 20:24 Speaking of your wife, what about ladies and heart disease? 20:26 Is there a difference between men and ladies? 20:28 Not enough difference. 20:30 The average lady figures this way... 20:32 "Heart disease, I have estrogen" 20:36 And what they don't realize is that after the change of life, 20:40 they get more brain attacks than men... 20:44 And #2, they get heart attacks just like men do. 20:46 So after menopause, they have more problems than men. Right! 20:49 Bad news, and they don't know this. 20:52 What about fat in the diet, is any fat good for the heart? 20:56 Of course... Good fat is good for the whole body in moderation 21:01 But the wrong kind of fat, too much, will make your 21:05 waist and hips too big, your pipes too small, 21:09 and your brain too conventional. 21:12 So what's the wrong kind of fat? 21:14 Saturated animal fat is the worst kind of fat known. 21:18 And what's an easy way to know that? 21:20 Someone told me once, what it does at room temperature 21:23 is what it's going to do in your body. Right! 21:25 Is that a good way to do it? Yes 21:27 Right. Olive oil is EXCELLENT for the whole body. 21:32 It improves the rate of learning. 21:34 Olive oil will help your membranes all over the body, 21:39 and it does a neat job... 21:42 Hydroxytyrosol in extra virgin olive oil will go 21:45 inside of your plaque, and it will cool down your 21:48 plaque while you're going into reversal. 21:52 I heard someone once say that they've studied the 21:56 plaques of people in people that died of heart attacks 21:59 that were on the so-called Mediterranean diet, 22:01 they had olive oil in their plaques. Yes 22:05 And what you're saying makes sense in once sense, 22:08 but what about that information. Moderation! 22:12 If you pluck the data from the Mediterranean cultures, 22:16 and the olive cultures, the people in the Mediterranean 22:21 are almost as good as Japanese, clear until 40% fat in the diet. 22:27 Oh, so then when it gets up to 22:28 40% or more, then you're in problems. 22:31 No matter what the kind of fat is... YES 22:33 What about a pill? 22:34 You know, lots of times people say... 22:36 "Hey, just give me a pill, I want to do that" 22:37 STATINS! SURE! 22:39 Yeah, you see all these different athletes, 22:41 and different ones, and they're very 22:42 competitive people and they say... 22:44 "I just take this pill and it takes care of me" 22:45 Anything to that? Why SURE! 22:48 Statins will lower your cholesterol, sure will... 22:51 But here's what the public does not know... 22:53 and you aren't supposed to. 22:54 Look friends, if you get on your computer, 22:59 and type in under "search" "pubmed" - enter, 23:08 you can get access to 5 million articles of health information 23:14 And you type up this "statin adverse effects" - enter 23:20 And you will learn and verify exactly what I'm saying, 23:26 that the new high-priced statins 23:28 that people are taking all over the world, 23:31 compromise your mitochondria so you have less and less 23:35 ENERGY to live life while you're lowering your cholesterol 23:41 Isn't that a set-back? 23:42 So it takes away, the mitochondria, the powerhouses 23:45 of the cell that would give you power... It compromises them! 23:47 ...That makes them bad. 23:48 Are there any natural-occurring statins that are better for you 23:50 than the medicines? Oh yes indeed! 23:52 I have a specially designed red pill. 23:54 A red one! What is it? 23:56 This big around! Strawberry? 23:59 Called an APPLE! An apple... that's a statin? 24:02 Yes, a red apple, by new evidence is a natural statin. 24:06 And it TASTES good! 24:08 So, an apple a day helps keep the mortician away. 24:12 All right! Now what if you have 24:13 heart disease, how many apples a day? 24:15 Unknown, but it would be a good idea to go on the best diet 24:20 that you can get and a good program. 24:24 Now look, I'm a scientist, nothing to sell, but truth... 24:30 If that left main coronary artery, 24:33 in a diabetic 70-year-old, is 80% shot, 24:37 you may need the finest surgery in the world 24:42 to get that taken care of... 24:44 And THEN go on a lifestyle program to KEEP it open, you see 24:49 So we have nothing whatsoever to do with narrow-minded 24:54 approaches to the biggest epidemic in the Western world... 24:58 ATHEROSCLEROSIS! 25:00 If 70% of 40-year-olds had the disease, 25:02 and it's the #1 cause of death in America, 25:06 and starting in other countries wherever America goes... 25:08 this happens around the world. Yes... 25:10 What can we do to reverse it if we already have it? 25:13 PLENTY! 25:15 #1... You can have biochemical reversal. 25:19 Let's say chemical - You can turn around the 25:23 chemistry in the plaque, and one way you do this 25:25 is using a moderate amount of olives or extra virgin olive oil 25:31 And, you can stop smoking forever by God's grace, 25:34 and your hardy cooperation. 25:37 And perhaps 3ABN is world famous and is delivering, 25:44 I saw it 2 hours ago here, stop smoking programs 25:51 on 3ABN television can help you stop smoking forever... 25:55 And if you'll follow that program, 25:57 and stop smoking forever, this will help you. WHY? 26:00 A person who has atherosclerosis, 26:04 when they go to climb up stairs, 26:06 the coronary artery shrinks down, spasm... 26:10 instead of opening up, and if you stop smoking, 26:14 and go on a good diet, in a few days, 26:17 your artery will normalize and it will open UP 26:22 when you're walking in a cold wind. 26:24 It will open UP when you get into stress. 26:27 It will open UP after a meal. 26:31 That's physiologic reversal. 26:33 So #1, stop smoking. #2, the correct diet... 26:36 And what you've said about diet is the RIGHT kind of fat... YES 26:41 Not necessarily no fat. Right 26:42 Fruits and grains and vegetables! 26:46 The right kind of fat would be the kind of fat that 26:48 naturally occurs? Certainly 26:49 But keep below 40%. OH, closer to 20. 26:56 10? Not necessarily 10, 26:59 unless your doctor so specifies... 27:02 But moderation is an individual matter. 27:06 For instance, here's a man who is 70 pounds overweight. 27:12 His fat should be reduced a lot more than this accountant, 27:18 this CPA who is 30 pounds UNDERWEIGHT and he needs 27:23 a little MORE fat to help him. 27:27 So it's an individual matter. 27:29 We've been talking with Dr. Bernell Baldwin 27:32 He is a brain scientist, specialty in neurophysiology. 27:37 We've been talking about heart disease and there's good news! 27:39 We know who has it. 27:41 We know what to do about it. 27:43 We know that if we follow these principles, 27:45 we can have biochemical reversal, physiological reversal 27:49 and then anatomical reversal. 27:52 And so we hope that what you've learned will give you 27:54 health that lasts for a lifetime! |
Revised 2013-06-17