Hello and welcome to
"Health for a Lifetime"
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I'm your host Don Macintosh
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and today we're delighted to
have Dr. Bernell Baldwin with us
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You're a neurophysiologist,
is that right?
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Correct. And
what does that mean?
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That means "how
does the brain work?"
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All right, you
know how that works.
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To quite a degree. Okay, good.
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Well, we're delighted
to have you here today,
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and we're going to be
talking about soy! Yes
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I understand that soybeans,
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I think that's what we
call them here at least... Yes
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Soybeans are quite a cash crop.
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Oh yes, #2 in the United States.
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They're all over the place.
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Well why would a brain scientist
need to talk about soy?
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Because we're looking for
answers instead of just problems
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So there's something to
soybeans besides money...
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Oh yes! A LOT in
soy besides money.
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DuPont has discovered soy.
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Okay... What do
you mean by that?
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They're putting millions
of bucks into exploiting
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the nutritional
potential of soy.
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Okay, so what good is
there in soy for our lives?
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Excellent question!
Okay... excellent question!
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#1... My biochemistry teacher
at George Washington University,
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Dr. Treadwell won a
quarter of a million dollars
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to find a
cholesterol blocking agent...
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And he went all the way around
the molecule in Germanic fashion
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with methyl, ethyl,
propyl, isopropyl groups...
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all around the molecule, and he
found some that really worked!
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But he said, "Students, the
best blocking agents we've been
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able to find in all
our years of research
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are already available
in soy and whole wheat.
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Is that right? Right!
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So he took the whole molecule,
he studied the structure,
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and he said, "What would fit in
there to block it. " Yes, right!
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And he said the best
thing is wheat and soy.
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I've already got it!
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So, anybody that gets teased
about eating a soy burger,
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they know something
now. ... Know better!
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So soy has got plant sterols
in it, and these plant sterols
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keep cholesterol from
getting into the blood,
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and it works
something like this...
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Cholesterol comes knocking in
the ileum, sort of like this...
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It knocks and it says,
"May I come into your arteries?"
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"I'd like to
visit your coronaries"
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The cholesterol is
saying this... "Yes"
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And the body replies,
"SIR, soy has been here first!"
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"The men's room is to your left"
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And with a high fiber
diet, this cholesterol is
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soaked up with the fiber,
and it goes bye-bye forever.
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That's probably
the most inventive
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depiction of
soy I've ever heard.
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What else does soy have
for us besides saying...
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"goodbye to cholesterol"
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Soy has got a super
combination of amino acids.
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Okay, and what does that mean?
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Plenty... In the old days, the
more lysine a food had in it,
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the BETTER IT WAS!
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Because look, the animals
grow FASTER on very high lysine.
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And then they found out, after
years of promoting this concept,
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and after pushing this on
the developing third world,
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all of a sudden they find out...
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OOPS! The faster they
grow, the sooner they die.
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Now we know, thanks to the
research of Dr. Albert Sanchez,
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a U.S. U.C.L.A.
trained amino acid chemist,
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he discovered and published,
years ago, that arginine
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found in soy and in other
vegetable protein sources,
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this arginine will go into
your body and it will liberate
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a special blood
vessel opener, a vasodilator.
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So arginine will
liberate nitric oxide,
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and this will go in and it will
open the brain in your computers
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...in your heart,
and in your kidneys for
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blood pressure control.
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So soy is better than meat for
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the brain, for the
heart and for the kidneys.
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So in other words, the arginine
is what causes things to dilate,
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and that's what's found in soy.
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It's really healthy
for us, but that lysine
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is not as good for us;
it causes to grow too fast,
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and it causes heart disease,
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all those different
types of things. Yes
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Now here's some proof of this...
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If you take rabbits and give
them casein from cow's milk,
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they will get atherosclerosis.
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If you give them extra
arginine, you stop this.
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So that the balance of the
amino acids is very essential,
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and "Sanchez and Willard"...
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Dr. Willard at Loma Linda
has collaborated with Sanchez,
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and they published on this...
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And "Krichevsky" in
Washington, a few weeks ago,
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I heard him
lecture on this in person,
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and he is very CLEAR
that we want arginine UP
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and lysine MODERATE for
the well-being of society.
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Is that what he said,
"the well-being of society"
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Let me ask you
this question then...
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Is arginine then
available in any other place
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aside from soy,
which of course you said...
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Oh yes, ALMONDS have GOT it!
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Almonds and what
else? And WALNUTS!
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Almonds and walnuts
and soy! AND LEGUMES!
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And also garbanzos, and
seeds have also got this.
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Love garbanzos...
You're making me hungry!
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So we're dealing with
principles, not just -
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we aren't trying
to sell a product.
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All right, any
other active ingredients
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in soy that really help us?
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Ah YES! We're
just getting STARTED!
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You've GOT phytochemicals
in soy... like genistein.
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Genistein,
explain what that does.
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Genistein... It
keeps your DNA cool,
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so that under the microscope,
if you take a cancer cell
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from a lady who is dying
with cancer of the breast,
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1 out of 8 are
going to get this...
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And in a nonsmoking
lady, in the Western world,
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cancer of the breast is the
commonest cancer that they get.
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...That, and it's real
close to cancer of the bowel.
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All right. So you
take out a cell...
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Take out a cell, put
it under a microscope,
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and if you put
genistein around it,
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it restrains the
wild growth of cancer.
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WOW... So in other
words, if you take soy,
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it would stop breast cancer...
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Let's say "restrain
it" Restrain it. Yes
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And it could prevent it
before it ever happened.
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This is why classical Japanese
women are 4 times better
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than Americans for
cancer of the breast.
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They don't get it... as
much. Yes, right, 4 times better
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And after the
menopause, 8-10 times better.
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So they eat a lot of
soy in Japan, I assume.
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...20 grams of soy a day,
average in classical Japan.
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Well this genistein, am I
pronouncing that right? Yes
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Can you just buy
that by itself? Certainly!
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Is it as good for you? No
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Because the entrepreneurs
don't know the REST of the story
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And what's the
rest of the story?
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There are other phytochemicals
in soy... like daidzein,
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and fibers, and
saponin, and trypsin inhibitors,
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and various other things...
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That the
entrepreneurs aren't on to.
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So, the bottom line
on that is very simple...
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WHOLE FOOD FOR WHOLE PEOPLE
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That's good... whole
food for whole people.
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So, genistein, does it
occur anywhere else besides soy?
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Oh yes, you can get it
in some of the legumes.
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But, in the latest issue of "The
Journal of Health and Healing"
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we very carefully condensed
2 pages of the best sources
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known in the entire world,
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and you can get this
from the University of Iowa
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on your computer...
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You can get 20 pages of
information direct measurements
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of genistein in
all known foods...
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And you'll find that soy is
WAY AHEAD of any other source
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known in the world.
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Is anyone ever allergic to soy?
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Of course, you can
be allergic to anything.
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Okay, and...
Here's the way to do it...
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It's very simple...
STICK TO SOY DOWN THE GULLET
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OF THE BABY when the
baby is 2 months old.
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Soy formula? Yes,
right... and soybeans
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because, you know, the earlier
the better is the philosophy.
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Deadeye wrong!
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Whereas the way
to prevent allergies
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is to give the
soy to mother, see...
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And give this
child breastfeeding
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as long as possible...
like at least one-half a year,
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preferably even longer...
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And then, the mother's immune
system will be transferred
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to quite a degree to the infant,
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and you'll have less
colic, less midnight troubles,
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less 2 a. m.
troubles, and better sleep for
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mother and daddy,
better sleep for the child,
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and a lot better
immune architecture,
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than if you STICK cheap
orange juice with peel oil in it
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and wheat, fruits and vegetables
and pureed pork liver,
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and all this
other stuff that they
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stick to these babies
when they're too young.
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And even soymilk is not
good for them at that age.
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It would be better...
mother's milk would be better,
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but soymilk would be
WAY AHEAD of cow's milk!
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Cow's milk is ideal
food for a baby cow.
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Now that's profound...
but I think maybe sometimes
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we forget that, don't
we? Yes, this is easy to do.
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All right, so let's say
that we are allergic to soy,
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and we can't get the genistein;
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we can't get the
arginine that's there...
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We know there are
some other sources...
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You've said there are some
other sources for genistein.
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What's the #2 best source?
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Or 3, or 4, or 5... Red clover.
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Red clover...
where do we get that?
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Red clover grows in the meadow.
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Yeah, I
understand that, but I mean,
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how often do we eat red clover?
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Not very often,
but it comes in a tea.
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Now this is a little
fun, but 10 years ago
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red clover topped tea
was considered to be...
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may I put on
academic garb? Sure!
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Red clover... this is a placebo
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preparation for 19th
century older ladies.
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Is that what they
said? 10 years ago...
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So, it's a happy pill; it
doesn't really do anything.
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Yes, it doesn't do anything.
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NOW WE KNOW, that red clover
top tea liberates genistein
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into the body
so it helps prevent
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cancer of the breast in ladies.
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It liberates the
genistein that occurs in it? Yes
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So it does occur in red clover.
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Now, to be technical,
it's a methoxy derivative.
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But see, there's a little
side chain on there "meth-oxy"
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and in the body, this goes off
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and the genistein
goes in the blood.
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And, it's not
just women, it's men.
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Now look, take Japan...
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Cancer of the prostate
is the commonest cancer,
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outside of skin, that men get...
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In Japan, on the soy
program, you may have
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3 spots of
cancer in the prostate,
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but none of them
are doing anything;
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none of them are
going anywhere. WHY?
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SOY... Keeps the lid on cancer.
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Someone told me that...
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Recently I was talking
to Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn,
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Cleveland Clinic, and he
told me that in the 1950s
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I think it was, or a
little bit before that,
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it might have been
the statistic he shared,
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there was only 18
cases of prostate surgery,
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and then he said, now that
the diet has been westernized,
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it has really increased.
It's out of sight now...
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And the reason for
that, you're suggesting is
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because they've
moved maybe away from soy
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and more towards the
Western diet or what?
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Overfeeding of the wrong
stuff! This will do that.
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What about the protein
in soy, is it as good as the
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protein we get in meat
or vegetables? It's BETTER!
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It's better, why?
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Because it's got a
better amino acid balance...
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And you get less
atherosclerosis on this balance.
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Now it's true, look...
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What do you mean by the
amino acid balance? Oh...
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Well, it needs to have enough
of all the essential vitamins,
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all the essential
amino acids, and it's got
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to have a balance
of those essentials...
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so that you have
MAXIMUM IMMUNE POWER!
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The amino acids,
maybe just tell...
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maybe someone has not taken
chemistry or different things.
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The amino acids are sort of like
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the ABCD, the
alphabet of protein, right?
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The BRICK in the walls of life!
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All right, so if you have all
those letters in the alphabet,
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you could spell
all the words you need,
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but if you don't, you can't.
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Is that what you mean? Sure
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No, we aren't going
to sit here and say...
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that soy is a
silver bullet... NO
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We're saying that soy
is an excellent component
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of a good, wise
nutritional program.
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We've been talking
to Dr. Bernell Baldwin
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We're talking about
soy proteins soy products.
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When we come back, I'm going
to ask him how to tame tofu.
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Whether or not it's good for us,
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and we're going to look at
some practical applications
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Welcome back, we've been
talking with Dr. Bernell Baldwin
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And we've been
talking about soy.
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Dr. Baldwin is a
neurophysiologist,
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a brain scientist, and
yet we're talking about soy...
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and it's been interesting to
understand what soy has for us.
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When we ended our
discussion, we were looking at
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all the different positive
things we could get from soy,
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how it could help us
not have breast cancer,
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how it could help us
avoid having heart disease,
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these different
things with the arginine,
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and all these different things.
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What about the
fat content of soy?
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I've heard someone
say that soy is 52% fat...
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Well, of course, this
is a vary on the variety...
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And that famous university,
the University of Illinois,
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has 1600 cultivars of soy.
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What's a cultivar?
Type, variety, sub variety
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All right...
thanks for that question.
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So there's a lot of
different kinds of soy...
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But here's the good
news on fat and soy...
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The fat in soy
is so well-balanced,
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and so constructive,
that you get omega-3 fat
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to help all the
membranes of the body.
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So that you don't need to
eat dead fish when you use soy.
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Another neat thing about
the fat of soy is this...
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There's an essential fat called
linoleic acid that's very well
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represented in soy fat.
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So what I hear you saying is
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a little different
than I've heard others say,
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you know,
someone like Dean Ornish
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or someone like this
would say, "10% fat at the max,"
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but you're saying
there's a difference among fats;
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there are some fats
that you NEED to have.
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Essential. Essential fats... Yes
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And another reason why at
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Wildwood Lifestyle
Center and Hospital,
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why we give our heart
patients soy and also OLIVES,
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and also almonds and
walnuts in moderation...
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is because we want to
PREVENT LDL from shrinking
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and getting so small and dense
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that it will go into the
artery and kill the patient.
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What do you mean by that?
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I mean that Dr. Superko at
the HeartLab at Berkeley...
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He and his colleagues
have got very clear evidence
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that if the fat is too
low, the LDL becomes abnormal,
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and so by giving some olives
and giving some soy, whole soy,
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and by giving a
moderate amount of these nuts,
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we keep the LDL
LIGHTER and a little larger
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so that it can't penetrate
into the arteries... good news!
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So the LDL, just to
see if I understand this...
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LDL is a part of
total cholesterol,
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HDL is another part of it...
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Is that what you're
talking about? No...
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It's a PACKAGING. Packaging? Yes
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I put it this way,
LDL is a grease-truck,
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and it floats around in
the blood unloading grease
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in arteries...
Where it's needed.
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Yes, and also where you
don't want it. That's right
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Whereas HDL is a pickup truck
and it goes all over the body...
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heart, brain,
kidneys, everywhere,
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and it picks up this cholesterol
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and it takes it down to
the liver and dumps it there...
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And then the liver
breaks this cholesterol apart,
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and makes a detergent out of it.
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So, in other
words, when we eat soy,
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our LDL, the fat in soy,
makes the LDL so it's not an
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unusual shape if it's decreasing
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because it can lodge more
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efficiently in
different... It helps the body.
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The truck gets stuck,
so to speak, if it's not
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the right kind of
fat. Yeah, this is true.
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So that another thing
about the fat of soy...
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There are fats in soy that help
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the brain FIGHT
Alzheimer disease,
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and FIGHT dementia and fight...
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Have you heard
of mediocrity? Um hm
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Mediocrity is quite a problem in
the American educational scene.
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Quite a problem... And
even politicians can become
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mediocre to such an
extent that it is very difficult
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to decide - Who do we
vote for? Ene, mene or moe?
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You see, well now soy,
will help some of these problems
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and if you've been
on a real good diet,
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spiritually,
intellectually and physically,
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and if you're really
WITH-IT, then you'll be CREATIVE
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instead of conventional.
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So soy can help us be creative
instead of conventional,
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it can be the building block
for a good educational system
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and different things.
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It sounds like
soy is the answer.
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What about tofu?
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TOFU! Easy to use, very popular
and it's highly used in Asia...
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BUT... now, are you familiar
with this little approach?
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The ice is getting thinner?
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I'm familiar with
that statement, yes.
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Yes, okay... Here goes,
the ice is getting thinner.
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At the latest soy meetings,
International Soy Meetings,
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in Washington, data
was presented from Hawaii
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4,000 Asiatics and
here's the scoop...
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Elderly Asiatics who ate the
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MOST tofu had a
problem with dementia.
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Ooo... that doesn't
sound good! No, it's not good.
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But, as of today, we
do not know whether this
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was a cultural problem,
an environmental problem,
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or a nutritional problem.
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So we don't have
enough data to know if it was
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the soy or it could
have been something else...
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We don't know. Yeah... BUT
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It's like this, tofu is a
refined product. Processed food
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Yeah, and you don't
get all of the goodies
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that are in the whole soy.
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But my wife has no
problem with that, Dr. Marjorie.
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She gets these
soybeans at the store,
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and checks them out for
rocks in the bright light,
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soaks them at room
temperature for about 2 days,
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and then whiz the
daylights out of them,
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and she puts
these in a baking dish,
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and makes a soy
soufflé, and it rises up,
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and you get all the
lecithin for the brain;
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you get all the
fiber for the bowels;
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you get the
cholesterol blocking agents;
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you get all the
vitamins, all the minerals,
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EVERYTHING in the whole soy.
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So you're making your
own, sort of, total tofu,
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instead of
processed tofu. Right!
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Got it. YES!
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So let me get that recipe again.
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You take it, you
soak it for 2 days...
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Do you whiz the daylights
out of it, so-to-speak,
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before you soak it?
No, no... after, after.
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That would be hard
to do, wouldn't it? Yes
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And then... stick
it on a baking sheet.
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A baking sheet, and you
put the baking sheet where?
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In the OVEN! In the oven? Yes
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And then you bake it.
You bake it for how long?
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Ask the cook! Okay
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What about
isolated soy proteins!
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Excellent for profits, but
not the greatest for the person.
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Okay, so in other
words, once you tear it apart,
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you've torn it apart.
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Uh... you lose it's value.
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Uhh, now we've got data on this
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in the latest journal
of "Health and Healing"
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If you take
alcohol-extracted soy protein,
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the genistein is GONE.
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So much of the soy protein
that is on the market today
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is not worth eating.
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So the genistein that
helps us avoid breast cancer,
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and those different types
of things... Right, is GONE
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Let me ask you a
couple... Oh, go ahead
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But the
water-extracted soy has got it.
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Water extracted? Yeah
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So some soy
protein is just dandy;
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whereas others
is not worth eating.
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Will soy help
prevent heart disease?
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Certainly, because it
HELPS keep down cholesterol.
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What about menopause?
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It MODIFIES
menopause; reducing hot flashes,
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and assisting the transition
from midlife to wisdom.
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So some people
would be very interested
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in that effect, wouldn't
they? They certainly would!
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Okay, what about cancer?
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We've already talked about
it. Will it help prevent it?
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YES, it helps PREVENT cancer,
00:26:15.96\00:26:18.29
and it helps SLOW DOWN cancer,
00:26:18.32\00:26:20.43
and it helps manage cancer,
00:26:20.46\00:26:22.18
and, as you were
saying on one of the breaks...
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Soy is now being considered
in therapy NOT just prevention,
00:26:25.00\00:26:31.88
...also THERAPY.
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I have an interesting
question, I don't know,
00:26:33.50\00:26:35.51
I heard someone make
a presentation once that
00:26:35.54\00:26:38.31
soy is excellent
for treating burns.
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Don't know a
thing about it. Okay
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I cannot say a word
of horse sense about it.
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How can we get
more soy in our diet?
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Why it's very simple.
00:26:49.42\00:26:50.83
We need to use soy milk.
00:26:50.86\00:26:52.48
Dr. Harry Miller popularized soy
00:26:52.51\00:26:56.65
and he brought it
to the United States,
00:26:56.68\00:26:58.24
and he got some
real momentum on this.
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You get 10 milligrams
of isoflavones in a glass
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of ordinary soymilk.
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So soymilk is the
answer to immediately increase
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it to the level of...
what were we shooting for?
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...20 to 40 mg a
day of isoflavones...
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And this is the practical
way to do this in soy products.
00:27:20.79\00:27:24.62
SO, instead of giving byproduct
surplus animal protein in fat,
00:27:24.63\00:27:30.80
to our high school
students, what we need to do is
00:27:30.83\00:27:33.33
give them something
better. Something better...
00:27:33.36\00:27:36.95
We've been talking
to Dr. Bernell Baldwin
00:27:36.98\00:27:39.70
We've been talking
about the soy advantage.
00:27:39.73\00:27:42.33
If you want to
avoid heart disease;
00:27:42.36\00:27:44.19
if you want your blood
vessels to open up and dilate,
00:27:44.20\00:27:47.01
and if you would
like to avoid cancer,
00:27:47.04\00:27:50.11
many different
benefits from soy.
00:27:50.14\00:27:52.22
This is something you
need to get in your diet.
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Drink that
soymilk and have health
00:27:54.77\00:27:56.33
that lasts for a lifetime!
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