Participants: Bernell Baldwin, Don Mackintosh
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000051
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00:48 Hello and welcome to Health for a Lifetime.
00:50 I'm your host Don Mackintosh, 00:51 and we are delighted to have Dr. Bernell Baldwin with us 00:54 today. Welcome doctor. Glad to be here. 00:57 Now, I understand that you are scientist and your specialty 01:01 is the brain. Right. 01:03 And you have studied the brain; you have got some ongoing 01:07 research going on. Yes. You've taught medical students 01:10 and all different types of students for many years. 01:13 As I recall your Ph. D. was... what was it that you focused on? 01:18 In neurophysiology. We map the brain for influences 01:23 on the heart. OK. Influences on the heart. 01:26 For instance, we got 90 minutes of arrhythmia from stimulation 01:29 of the cortex of the brain, and we stopped this in 2 seconds 01:34 by stimulation in certain spots. 01:37 Of the brain? Right. 01:38 And it influenced the heart. So, the body is connected. 01:41 Hyper connected. Very connected, we hope at least. 01:45 Well, today there's something that has to do with connections 01:48 again. We are going to be talking about dementia 01:50 and Alzheimer's disease. Well, who really worries about this 01:54 in America anyway, would you say? 01:56 Caregivers worry about this. 01:58 OK. And people who are losing 02:00 their memory and faculties worry 02:02 about this. Um-hmm. 02:04 We really need to understand 02:06 what's going on so that we can prevent. 02:08 Most Alzheimer's disease and most dementia can be prevented 02:13 now. That's very good news. Let's come back to that. 02:18 But what is dementia? What does it cause? 02:21 What does the diagnosis mean: dementia? 02:25 Yes. Dementia. In the medical sense dementia is 02:31 loss of memory, loss of faculties, 02:34 loss of judgment, and loss of a capacity for social and normal 02:40 communication in life. Does the person usually recognize it? 02:45 Sometimes yes, and often no. 02:49 Um-hmm. How big a problem is it? 02:53 It's common. Alzheimer's disease is about the #5 cause of death 02:57 of older ladies. This is a BIG problem. 03:01 And the older people are the more tendency there is to get 03:06 Alzheimer's disease. We all need to understand this so that we 03:09 can prevent it intelligently. 03:12 Now when we were talking about 03:14 this just before we started 03:15 you said there was also a 03:16 problem with spatial orientation. 03:18 What do you mean by that? 03:20 Umm. A person who has significant Alzheimer's disease 03:24 may not only forget how to find the bathroom, 03:28 they even forget what state they're in. 03:31 Umm, OK. So someone is not knowing where they are 03:34 in terms of what state or different things. 03:37 What about so-called confabulation or making up 03:40 sentences? Yes. There are several modes of sliding into 03:44 Alzheimer's disease, and one of these could be psychiatric. 03:48 And you could have confabulation and this kind of thing. 03:53 And that would be when, for instance, 03:57 take the frontal lobe. If the frontal lobe is 04:01 in such disarray and if so many nerve cells are dead, 04:05 then confabulation would be just obvious. 04:10 And when we say confabulation we mean what exactly? 04:12 Stories, lying. Um-hmm. So, in other words, 04:16 I don't remember something but I don't want to act like I don't 04:19 know it so I make something up. 04:20 Yes. OK, confabulate something. 04:22 So, the common causes then of dementia or Alzheimer's... 04:28 what causes it? 04:30 Very good question. No. 1: genetics. 04:35 Like 20, 25% of this can be genetics... 04:41 so if you have type E4 lipo- proteins in your blood, 04:45 you are a sitting duck for Alzheimer's disease. 04:48 But good news right there. Let's take the most dismal 04:51 negative fact in the whole area. All people that have bad 04:57 genetics do not get the disease... 05:00 and in a few minutes we are going to find out why. 05:03 Well, let's come back to that E4 lipoprotein. 05:06 Can you get a test to see whether or not you have this? 05:09 Yes. And they have... with a catch. 05:11 You can't get it in an ordinary hospital because they don't 05:13 want to discourage you. 05:15 I see. Well, let's say it comes back positive. 05:17 Maybe we want to come back to that. But... 05:22 what are some other causes - Oh, yes - of this? 05:26 The more common causes would be environmental. 05:29 Um-hmm. Now, let's get right to the heart of something new. 05:33 Something vital and something relevant. 05:36 Seventh-day Adventist researchers called 05:41 epidemiologists at Loma Linda University, 05:44 Doctors Geem and Beeson and associates, 05:49 they have published in the peer reviewed scientific literature 05:53 precisely, Journal of Neuroepidemiology. 05:58 Clear back in 1993 they presented information that 06:04 Seventh-day Adventist people who eat a lot of meat 06:09 get 2.4 times as much dementia 06:15 as Seventh-day Adventists who are vegetarians. 06:18 And the reason they study Adventist groups are because 06:20 there are those that don't eat meat 06:22 and there are those that do. Yes. 06:23 And they are in the data banks and they can follow them 06:26 for years. OK. And they just plain find that out. 06:29 So, what this means is that the better the diet 06:34 the better the brain. OK, so... 06:37 It's not enough to just say well I'm eating the good kind 06:41 of meat. Go for the gold standard; go for that... 06:45 the optimal diet really basically. Yes. 06:47 Now let me try and explain that. 06:49 We know by measurement in the laboratory that the more the 06:53 xanthene in the fluids around the nerve cell the less 06:58 acetylcholine it can make. Xanthene is a common byproduct 07:04 of meat. Whereas vitamin E, 07:07 and I mean the whole complex, 07:10 the alpha, the gamma, and the delta. 07:12 Vitamin E as in whole grains: this will help the brain make 07:18 acetylcholine. So in the Nebuchadnezzar program you 07:21 go down - the Daniel program you go up. 07:25 Because in the Bible story... Nebuchadnezzar, I assume that... 07:29 they ate a lot of meat - oh, yes - and different things 07:31 whereas Daniel said give me vegetables and different things. 07:34 And he tried to push this off on Daniel and his buddies. 07:37 And you remember they stuck with their program and they went 07:41 vegetarian. Can alcohol consumption cause Alzheimer's 07:45 or dementia? Uh, alcohol, of course, can kill cells 07:49 by the million. And one way it does this is through 07:52 acetaldehyde. Alcohol is broken down into acetaldehyde, 07:57 and this can kill little cells in the brain. 08:00 Hmmm... by the million. So that, of course, would lead to that. 08:05 Any other causes for dementia? 08:08 Things that would give us warning signals that this is 08:11 developing aside from what you've mentioned? Yes! 08:13 Now, this particular answer turns on something 08:18 everybody knows... but not enough people are living it. 08:23 And that is this: use it or lose it. 08:26 Um-hmm. Illustration - There is a famous study of nuns 08:31 and here's what they did: they compared the letters of 08:35 application for the nunnery 08:39 with microscopic picture 08:45 of the brain 30+ years later. 08:48 And here's what they learned. Here's a young lady: 08:51 I would like to be a nun. 08:56 My favorite aunt was a nun. 09:01 She liked me. 09:06 Sincerely yours, Mary Low Voltage 09:12 What do you mean by that? 09:14 Just like the letter sounds. OK. This will clear up. 09:18 All right. Now here is another letter. 09:20 To whom it may concern: My considerations for applying 09:24 to your institution are: philosophic, 09:29 ethical, religious, and personal. 09:32 Signed, Up and At'em 09:35 High voltage. High voltage. 09:37 So there's more involved in that... there certainly is. 09:42 So the electronic action in the brain 09:47 produces nerve growth factors, 09:51 and these biochemically prevent Alzheimer's disease. 09:55 Hmmm. Now let me list some of these growth factors 09:58 because this program is not... we aren't 10:02 interested in propaganda... we're interested in truth. 10:05 Here are some of these nerve growth factors: 10:07 1. Brain-derived growth factor. 10:12 Nerve growth factor. Glial-derived growth factor. 10:18 Colony-stimulating growth factor. 10:21 These growth factors keep these nerve cells up and at'em 10:25 and busy, and it keeps them intact because the brain is 10:28 so dynamic that if the brain is not being used in a certain area 10:32 that area of the brain will shrink, atrophy, and die. 10:38 So the more varied different things you can be doing 10:40 with your brain the better? And action. For instance... 10:44 take a zoo animal. Have you ever seen an old-fashioned, 10:48 small, low-budget zoo? Have you ever seen the animals 10:51 pace in front of the cage. They go across... back. 10:56 Across... back. Yes. Across... back. 11:00 Now, this is called stereotype behavior. 11:03 If you scan the brain or weigh it or x-ray it, 11:09 the brain has typically shrunk 25%. 11:13 And even the cerebellum 15%. Even the medulla is shrunk 10% 11:19 because so many cells are dead. So one of the big reasons for 11:24 losing your marbles is not rolling them. 11:27 I mean, you know, you don't use these marbles. 11:30 So if they let those animals out of the cage... they put them 11:32 back in the wild, would they live? 11:33 No, they would starve to death 11:36 because the brain is wrecked. 11:40 And look at this as a human bearing. Prisoners should not be 11:43 put in dungeons: put them in a body and fender shop! 11:47 See? You need tools; you need a trade; they need action. 11:51 Give them volleyball nets, see? 11:54 Get them active; get them working. Yes! 11:55 Recently, in a very rich and fancy state out South... 11:59 West... they forbid the inmates 12:05 to work out in a gym. That is inhumane, that is unphysiologic, 12:09 and we need a class action lawsuit 12:12 to stop that whole nonsense. One of the finest things 12:17 that young men could do would be to work out in a gym. 12:20 Action is a law of the being. 12:23 And this is very good on the marbles in the head. 12:26 So... depression of the brain or different parts... yes, 12:30 that's what you're talking about there? 12:32 This can also be a factor. Your question is doubly 12:38 important because it's very important to differentiate 12:43 in an older lady between depression and dementia. 12:47 Because many women - they haven't ruined the brain 12:51 at all, they are just discouraged and they got behind 12:55 on life and so life is very hard on them. 12:59 So you think a lot of people then that have been diagnosed 13:02 with dementia maybe don't have it? They have depression? 13:04 Right. This is common. And not only that but 13:07 other preventable diseases. How can you help someone 13:10 like that if you are a family member? 13:12 Very careful diagnosis. And just because grandmother 13:17 is not earning $5,000 a month 13:22 is no reason for not taking good care of her. 13:26 Because if you take grandmother and take her to a real good 13:29 physician, the physician will check her over 13:32 and he will do a blood test. And he'll say: "Look at here! 13:36 These red blood cells are too big. I think grandmother 13:40 may have a B12 problem. " 13:43 And recently it has been learned that many older people 13:46 have B12 deficiency. And you give them adequate B12 13:51 because the stomach, you see, can wear out in old age 13:54 and the B12 goes down and then the cellulite goes up 13:57 in the blood and it kills off these nerve cells and gives them 14:00 a big lot of trouble. So there are preventable causes 14:04 of dementia, a set of them, and they need to be faced 14:08 and dealt with properly. 14:10 What about mad cow disease? Does that have anything to do 14:12 with dementia? Of course! In mad cow disease 14:16 you not only lose marbles but you are killed. 14:21 And this is happening; 14:23 it has not stopped yet. 14:25 The press is not telling you 14:28 as many people die, young people, 30 years and less 14:33 clear down to 16 years of age, the media are not telling 14:38 you folks that as many people died with mad cow... humans... 14:44 last year as the year before. 14:48 And more people died last year and the year before 14:51 than the year before that. So, the mad cow problem 14:55 instead of going away is still with us. 14:58 And it, of course, has spread to sheep, to elk in Montana, 15:03 Idaho. Chronic wasting disease of ungulates 15:07 is a wide-spread disease. And, of course, the squirrels 15:10 in Kentucky are dying with Preaud disease. 15:13 And there is a cluster of dead and dying people in Kentucky 15:17 from eating the brains of the squirrels. 15:20 Now how does that work? I mean, you have a model of a brain 15:23 here. Where does it attack you? 15:25 Can you show us in the brain what happens? 15:27 Yes. Quite commonly in the back of the brain 15:30 but normal prion is a beautiful spiral 15:35 like this. OK. Prion is a zig-zag 15:41 beta sheet like this: zig - zag - zig. 15:45 And that's what's in the mad cow disease? Right. 15:48 And what does it do? And this abnormal particle 15:52 protein particle gets in the brain and it sidles up to the 15:56 spiral and it forces the spiral to become zig-zag. 16:01 And so the zig-zag spreads to the brain until you're dead. 16:06 Gets caught in there? No no no no. 16:09 Explain what happens. It imposes the abnormal shape - all right - 16:13 on the next protein so that the zig-zag spreads in the brain. 16:18 Zig-zag, zig-zag until you're dead. 16:22 Now there's a cure for this. 16:24 Heat your animal products to 600 degrees 16:28 until on the inside of the animal product 16:31 it is black. If it is not black - brown isn't enough, 16:36 it's got to be black - then it will be safe to eat. 16:39 We are talking with Dr. Bernell Baldwin. 16:42 We are talking about dementia and Alzheimer's and things that 16:44 cause it. And when we come back, what can we do to treat it? 16:49 We hope that you will join us. 16:52 Have you found yourself wishing that you could shed a few 16:55 pounds? 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What happens 18:30 is the blood vessels shut down, typically atherosclerosis. 18:35 So, anything that has to do with hardening of the arteries: 18:38 high fat, high cholesterol, all those different things. 18:40 Yes. The public does not know this. They don't realize 18:45 that when you get a bypass operation to relieve the heart, 18:51 that the atherosclerosis keeps right on going 18:56 and it ruins your blood vessels going to the brain. 19:00 So that bypass surgery is palliation 19:06 not cure. In other words, it just tries to keep up with the 19:10 damage, it's not something that's going to fix it. Yes. 19:14 So let me ask you this question: 19:17 can you have brain attacks 19:18 just like heart attacks? 19:20 Oh, yes. Common. And these brain attacks... 19:23 there is good news about that. 19:25 When an older person, a middle-aged person, 19:30 gets a sudden attack of paralysis, 19:35 sudden loss of speech, sudden severe dizziness, 19:40 if you take them to a real good hospital within three hours 19:45 they can do a scan, 19:48 find out the kind of brain attack. 19:52 And if this is a clot, they can go in there and dissolve 19:56 the clot and save the brain of your relative, 19:59 your friend, or yourself. So, like a hematoma 20:03 or is that different? No, that's another one. 20:05 This is more like just in the vessel itself we are 20:08 talking about? Like a big wreck! 20:10 When the head is injured from a side-blow in a car, 20:14 from very severe whiplash, if you have bleeding 20:18 under the skull, this can squeeze down 20:24 on the brain and damage it very heavily. 20:26 That's the sub derma. Yeah. Right. 20:28 But these as well as these other small ones where you have a 20:32 memory loss or different things they can be pinpointed with what 20:35 like a PET scan or a CAT scan or a MMR or whatever? Yeah. 20:39 Yes. The new scans will pick that up, 20:43 And diagnosis is very important. And it will save you money 20:47 and save you trouble to get a good diagnosis. 20:50 So there are, then, types of dementia that are treatable? 20:54 Right. We have talked about depression, we have talked about 20:57 vitamin B, we have talked about sub dermal hematomas 21:01 that pressure. Any other types that are treatable? 21:03 Another one is brain tumors. 21:07 OK. Now 50 years ago some African scientists proved 21:13 that you can take a fluid from a chicken's brain 21:18 who has got... Chickens very commonly get brain tumors. 21:23 If you take the fluid and give it to another bird, 21:28 they get brain tumor, because of virus going through 21:33 this fluid, you see. 21:36 So... That's what... that's why we say 21:40 what my wife gives me instead of 21:45 the chicken materials she gives me soy milk. 21:51 I see. And this avoids this problem. 21:54 It really, really helps. So this is... Now, 21:58 regular checkups by a real good physician can find a change 22:03 of pressure by looking in the back of the eye. 22:06 And, a good brain surgeon can take out 22:11 this little grape or even this walnut... sized tumor... 22:17 OK... and save the life and save the brain. 22:20 Whereas, a few years of procrastination 22:24 and you have got a funeral. 22:26 A big problem. So, diagnosis and checkups are very important. 22:31 At what age should these be started? 22:33 As teenagers. Really? 22:38 Not just for brain tumors but because of health in general. 22:41 You should be seeing a physician since the time you are a 22:44 teenager? More than a third, more than a third 22:47 of school children are obese right now. 22:51 And early care, you see, can nip that in the bud. 22:55 But especially with dementia and Alzheimer's 22:59 you want to just in there and get checked, and see what's 23:02 causing problems and rule out this or rule out that. 23:05 Anything else about diagnosis you need to know? 23:07 What kind of a doctor should you see? A general practitioner or 23:09 an internist, a neurologist? What should you see? 23:12 A very good internist or general practitioner. 23:18 And be free to ask for referral to a neurologist for this. 23:25 Like for instance. When an older person starts to lose memory... 23:29 If this diagnosis 23:33 or assessment is done early, 23:37 many times they can do one of two things: 23:40 turn around the loss of memory or slow it down. 23:44 Turn it around. That's good news, isn't it? 23:48 Yes. OK. You know, let's say that you go 23:51 and they, unfortunately, get the diagnosis of a type of 23:54 dementia that's not treatable... yes... what would you say 23:57 to the person that is needing to care for that individual? 24:00 The caregivers? Right. 24:03 It's very simple. 24:04 One: 24:07 Find a professional home 24:13 or a professional facility 24:17 for Alzheimer's patients. 24:19 Look at the bottom line price, 24:22 and here's what you'll find. 24:24 That it is so expensive that there is not 1 in 100 that 24:28 can afford it. It's out of sight. OK. 24:33 So... for every year you can keep them out of that facility 24:38 you might save $8,000 at least... or more. 24:44 And it could be $20,000 a year to take care of such a person. 24:49 OK. So, here's why I suggest that approach. 24:54 If you will get someone to help you every week, 24:59 one full day and a part of another one, 25:04 then the morale of the caregiver can be kept intact. 25:10 Whereas, if they try doing 168 hours a week of care 25:16 to an Alzheimer's patient, it's apt to give you 25:20 Alzheimer's disease. 25:24 In out last minute and half here or two minutes 25:26 I want to, I want to ask a question. What can we do 25:29 to prevent Alzheimer's? 25:32 Number 1 would be Genesis nutrition. 25:38 Get back to the original program in Genesis. 25:41 Fruits, nuts, grains? What about vegetables? 25:43 Excellent. OK. Excellent. 25:45 Number 2: activity throughout life. 25:50 Number 3: use it or lose it. 25:54 And next, mental stimulation. 26:00 You see. Using the mind, maintain the activity, 26:05 you see. And this will help keep the brain alive and with it. 26:10 You talked about the Genesis diet. What about soy? 26:13 Soy is so important we really need to discuss that in depth, 26:18 but the late news in soy chemistry is this: 26:21 there are compounds in soy that help the brain make 26:25 acetylcholine. And this helps the brain 26:30 to stay with it instead of sliding out of it. 26:34 You said we should check vitamin B12? 26:37 That means we need to have sources of that. 26:39 Let's say that we are eating all vegetables like you have said. 26:42 Yes. Where are we going to get our vitamin B12? 26:45 Now, here's where my wife and I get it. 26:47 I have a little bottle of B12 powder on the breakfast table. 26:52 Forumer yeast? No, no. Pure stuff. 26:55 Pure stuff? OK. Yes. I take a clean toothpick 26:59 and I stick this in the soy powder a little ways and then 27:02 I go "tick" on the granola. I see. 27:06 And this keeps my B12 in tip-top shape! 27:09 How about vitamin E. Is it important? 27:12 Certainly. And the way to get that is 27:13 whole grains and walnuts. 27:15 OK. Whole grains and walnuts. 27:17 Well, you have given us some practical guidelines 27:21 to prevent it, yes, and how to find it. 27:24 Would you recommend them getting that lipoprotein test? 27:28 People getting that? 27:30 In select cases if the nervous system of the patient 27:34 is stable this would be a good idea. 27:36 See, this runs in families you see. 27:39 And so if it is an Alzheimer's family, 27:42 they ought to go to a neurology clinic in the finest university 27:45 they can get next to. 27:47 We have been talking with Dr. Bernell Baldwin. 27:50 I know that this has been a practical program, 27:53 and I hope that you can use this and have health for a lifetime. |
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