Hello and welcome to
Health for a Lifetime.
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I'm your host Don Mackintosh
and today we're delighted
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to have Dr. Bernell
Baldwin with us. Welcome!
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Glad to be here. Now I
understand that you are a
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neurophysiologist - that's
correct - or a brain scientist.
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Right. You're involved
even now in ongoing research,
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is that right? Right. And
so some time in the future
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we are looking to hear
more about that research.
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Tell us a little
bit about the brain.
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Before we began the program
you and I were talking, and
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you had mentioned that there's
really a upper brain and a
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lower brain. What do you mean
by that? Show us what you mean.
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Yes. In the human brain,
the top of the brain should call
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the signals. The bottom...
That's the frontal lobe or the?
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Yes. And not only just the
front. Here, let's look at it
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from the other side. Not
only the front of the brain...
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the spiritual concerns of
man are represented in front.
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OK. The informational
and intellectual things
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are concentrated in the
back. OK. And emotional things
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in the bottom of the
brain... in the bottom.
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OK. So that's lower
brain, you would call? Yes.
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So feelings - where are they?
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They're in the middle and the
bottom. OK. Ordinary feelings.
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But there's good news
about feelings. When a man
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loves his wife, not only is
the bottom of the brain involved
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but the top of the
brain is giving tenderness,
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wisdom, delicacy. Those are
choices that need to be made.
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Oh yes. OK, yes. You don't
just naturally have an instinct
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to be tender,
kind, and loving. Right.
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It has to be something
taught or learned. Right.
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Well, then, you mentioned that
there is like kind of a battle
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between these two? Oh
yes. An electronic battle.
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And here's the way this works.
The nerve cells in the bottom
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they send inhibitory
signals up to the cortex
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to the effect of get out of
here; we're running the show.
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OK, and can you... In other
words, what's wrong with your
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what did you call that?
The thalamus? The hypothalamus.
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Hypothalamus running
things. What's wrong with the
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thalamus running
things, you know?
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Well, it's very simple. When
the hypothalamus runs things,
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you have increased
violence. You have over-eating.
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You have
drunkenness. You have wrecks.
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Accidents? Accidents. You
have trouble on every hand.
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You were mentioning something
very fascinating. You said that
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certain things we eat or
listen to or different things
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you have studied. Tell
us a little about that.
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Right. When you put a depth
electrode into the hypothalamus,
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and then put a highly-
stimulating chemical like say
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black pepper, then the
electronic activity in the
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hypothalamus
goes up dramatically.
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So it becomes the leader? Right.
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Any types of music do that?
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Yes, as we discovered.
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When you put a depth
electrode into the hypothalamus,
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and then you put a coarse,
heavy beat into the music,
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OK. Then the hypothalamus
will beat in harmony with this
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stimulus and then gradually it
will take over the whole brain.
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So the whole brain will
beat in harmony with the bottom.
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What about if it has good
lyrics along with that beat?
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That's another thing altogether.
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Oh, you mean with it? Yes.
Let's say you have that beat
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but then you have
really good lyrics?
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One, it's very
simple. You have confusion.
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OK. Whereas, real
good music by measurement
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in the new PET scans, you
can get one of these for $3000
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apiece, a new scan.
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A PET scanner; I'm
sure I'll pick one up!
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Yeah... no... The
test - not the machine.
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One of my students is
working at Johns Hopkins
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on a new one from General
Electric. $12,000,000 would
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get you started.
$12,000,000... for the machine!
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All right! So,
here's what happens.
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The better the music,
the more the cortex lights up
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with interest and
action. The cortex meaning the
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frontal lobe... and the
back and the top of the brain.
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But if it's just the simple
beat there's very... the bottom,
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the bottom of the brain
lights up. And they can see that
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on a PET scan?
Yes, by measurement.
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Now a PET scan is not for your
pets, you mean that's of the
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brain. Positron
Emission Tomography. OK.
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Well, let's go on then. Yes.
Do the battles lines ever shift?
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I mean, oh yes, if I'm tired,
If I'm - yes - If I'm this way -
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Yes. If you're over-fatigued,
the top of the brain
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gets tired first, usually,
and then the bottom of the brain
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will run things. And this makes
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industrial accidents,
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this makes crane accidents,
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this makes... look...
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from fatigue?
Question: how many hours
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in the recent plane crash
had the pilot been flying?
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13 hours. OK. OK. All right.
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What I am saying
is... this is not peanuts...
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One of my students is a
consultant in Washington.
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And, did you hear that
truck drivers have micro-sleeps?
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Yes, I heard about
that. And they have crack-ups
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in the micro-sleeps.
Right, yes. The brain is trying
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to get the rest they need even
though they didn't take it. Yes.
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All right! So my student...
My student approached the right
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people and they were going to
do a study on airplane pilots.
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And
micro-sleeps. And micro-sleeps.
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And guess what? The pilots
organized, and they pulled
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enough wires to drive
that right off the agenda.
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They don't like
that? No. Not allowed.
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Not allowed. Because they
want to work longer and get
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more money or what? Yes. And
they want to keep older pilots
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in the cockpit. I see. Right.
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So we are not talking peanuts,
we are talking principles
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of how the brain clicks.
Um-hmm. Let me ask you this:
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Depending on someone's age, yes,
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are there different battle lines
that are associated with age?
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Depending upon the
shape your arteries are in.
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If the front art... you see
that area right there? Right.
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If that artery under my
finger is 13% shut down,
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OK, then you have 56% oxygen
delivery to that portion of the
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brain. OK. So... and some
would say well those things
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shut down when you
get older. True or false?
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This depends upon
what program you're on.
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If the belt is too long
and the arteries are too small,
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then senility is
a program itself.
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So in other words, if you...
if you eat unhealthful foods
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and you do things,
yes, even when you're young,
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you can be older than you
really are chronologically
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and you can be... or, you
can be younger than you are
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depending on what you
are really doing. Right.
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Five years ago the
popular consensus was this:
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that normal Americans
or normal human beings
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would lose 50,000 to
75,000 cells every day.
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But we now know that
this is not necessary.
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On a real good lifestyle
program you keep your marbles.
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Not only that,
you can make new ones!
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In a portion of the brain right
under this crack here called the
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hippocampus you can make new
cells now, and these new cells
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can migrate to replace
the old chips. Wow. So...
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So in the battle
between the lower and the upper
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which way do those
cells go? They go up!
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That's good! So, if I'm
not... if I'm not drinking
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alcohol, if I'm not doing
things that... that... you know,
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yes, kill my cells
and do different things,
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then they'll get ahead of
the game. I can be smarter
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of course, and
wiser... and wiser? Yes.
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It's very simple. Eli goes down.
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Moses goes up. OK.
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So Eli... he was the one
in the Bible who had a problem
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eating too much. Exactly.
And he fell over and broke
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his neck as I
recall. Yes. And then Moses
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was... his shoes didn't
wear out, his eyes didn't dim.
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That's the whole idea? Yes.
And Moses joined the permanent
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space program. OK. And
as I heard yesterday on
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the news, I heard an extensive
experience from the American
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who spent 5 months in
space and he came back so weak
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that when he took his
first shower he had to get down
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on the floor. Wow.
So this is amazing.
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Of course, then you are
referring to the fact that Moses
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was translated. Oh yes!
OK. Well, let's talk a little
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bit more about this
war. Yes. When we get tired,
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when we have wrong
habits, eat wrong things,
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drink wrong things, watch wrong
things, listen to wrong things,
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then we are going to fail,
we are going to lose the battle.
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Would you say that most people
and, you know, in the world
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today are losing the
battle or winning the battle?
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The majority is losing
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the battle. And
why would you say that?
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Because the bent of the whole
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environment, the educational
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system that is so
secular. And like evolution...
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If a sophomore in high school
learns from a science teacher
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that he is a vertical rat
who came up from the jungle
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A vertical rat...
never heard that before...
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OK. OK. then he's apt to
act like he's from the jungle.
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Whereas if he learns
Johnny, you are so special
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you were designed in
heaven, and you are going to be
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you are going to become a
son of the ruler of the universe
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and you're in
training now to be a VIP
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this will change the climate
in the school quite a bit.
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And who needs to commit
suicide when you're a winner?
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Um-hmm. Um-hmm. Oh, yes. So
these ideas, these philosophies
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these ways of looking - right
- at life will... will... help
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us either win the
battle or lose the battle.
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Right. Now, instead of
depreciating the back of the
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brain, which would
be sheer blindness...
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What goes on in the back
of the brain, first of all?
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Memory. OK. So that's appreciat-
ing that, and intelligence.
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Yeah! Instead of depreciating.
Wilder Penfield, Montreal
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Neurological Institute: under
local anesthesia, if you put
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a little wire right
here and touch the brain
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with a little bit of electricity
there, the person says "ahhh. "
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I'm in the third grade. The
teacher is writing on the board
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Columbus. The
curtain on the window
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is such a color and Elizabeth
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has a hole in her stocking.
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So they have total recall?
There, in the back of the brain
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and very
important. Very important.
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Why is it I can't remember
stuff like that right now?
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It's quite simple. Because
the retrieval system needs more
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voltage. So you're saying
that I don't have what it takes?
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And I have the same
sort of a problem. OK.
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But... good news! Good news.
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According to the Great
Book, when the Holy Spirit is
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through with us, He is
going to bring all things to our
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remembrance. Right?
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Yes, that is good
news. Yes... and it's coming.
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Well let me ask you this,
OK? Let's say I'm a mother
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or a father or a parent
that's watching, and I noticed
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that there's a difference
between 3-year-old Timmy
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and 7-year-old Jane and
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12-year-old or
13-year-old Billy.
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Is there some reason for
that that you can talk about
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as a... as a brain scientist?
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Why certainly. For one thing,
the genetics is different.
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And, two, the
environment is different.
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Three, the choices of the child
and the interaction between
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and experienced parent who has
had two children is different
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than for the first child. There
is nothing developmentally?
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Oh, yes. What is the
developmental factor?
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Ahhh. This depends.
First children tend to be more
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aggressive. You've
heard of alpha-males?
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Um-hmm. OK. I'm an older child.
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We had three children
in the family. Um-hmm.
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My brother is a better
diplomat because he had to be.
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With you? Yes. Yes. OK.
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My sister is... she was
the only girl in the family.
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We protected her, and
it worked out very well.
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So each child plays a different
niche, they have different
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choices, they have
different patterns, and you have
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different action. So
each child is different.
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Isn't that a good thing? It's
a good thing, but it doesn't...
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there is no set formula then?
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So the cloning program
is largely a pipe dream.
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OK. So it has a lot to do with
environment... and choices...
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and choices. Yes.
Well, OK. How can you know
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whether or not your child is
winning or losing the battle?
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And how can you help
them win if they are losing?
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By the trend of their
behavior and attitudes.
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If the child
voluntarily helps the parent
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without even being
asked, you are winning. Um-hmm.
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Whereas, if the expressions
on the face, if the responses
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in the conversation
are more and more negative,
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more and more quiet,
more and more victim oriented,
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you see... then you are losing.
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OK. So I was in the store
yesterday getting some food
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to eat for the week here.
Yes. And I saw little Johnny...
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I don't know what the
child's name was... yes,
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and he has in his hand this
bag of candy that he has swiped
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going along, yes, and he
is screaming "I want that. "
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Mom doesn't try and
take it away; he's fine.
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As soon as she
reaches for it, he screams.
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She's losing? Both are losing.
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OK. Here's one reason why.
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Richter experiment:
scientific cutting-edge science.
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If you separate all
the vitamins, minerals,
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and amino acids and put
them on little dishes in a cage,
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a normal animal will
sniff, will taste, will sample
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and will get a completely
balanced nutritional program.
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The eyes are bright; the coat is
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splendidly coiffed;
grooming is excellent;
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behavior is fine;
they get along just fine.
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Now, if you hang a 10%
sugar solution in the cage,
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beautiful for television.
I dare you to try it.
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You hang a 10% sugar
solution in the cage.
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The animals go over;
they discover the sugar.
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They stick with the sugar,
and the scene closes with their
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little feet in
the air as they die.
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Is that right? Yes.
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Well, I don't want to
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but we have to take a
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let's see if we can resurrect
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Welcome back. We've been talking
with Dr. Bernell Baldwin.
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He's a scientist who
specializes in the brain.
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And just before we went to
the break we were talking about
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an interesting experiment.
This battle of the...
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in our minds between the
lower sensibilities and the
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lower portions of the
brain and the frontal lobe
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and the upper,
intelligence, and what not.
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And you were describing this...
these animals when give a choice
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between all of these different
nutrients and different things
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and a balanced diet
until they added sugar...
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10% sugar... 10% sugar...
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When they put that in there
they ate that to the exclusion
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of everything else, and the
last thing they see is that they
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are dead... dead. Yes. And
then we said when we came back
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we were going to resurrect
things. And so, let me ask you
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a question before we get you
resurrected again here... yes...
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What about visual stimuli?
That's more taste-oriented
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what you are talking about.
Yes. Or things to go into our
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ears. Are there other things
that... other studies that have
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been done that show us that we
can die in those ways as well?
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Yes. Now, something
that is utterly fascinating.
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I'm indebted to Dr.
Workman, MIT, for this one.
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In... under my
finger - way back here -
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there is a tiny little
gland called the pineal gland.
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And this gland
puts out melatonin.
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And one of melatonin's jobs
is to keep the brakes on the
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bottom of the brain.
Hmmm. The following things
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will mess this up so
that the bottom of the brain
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develops very rapidly
and runs the whole brain.
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1. Bright lights; late hours...
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I guess we are in trouble here
aren't we with bright lights?
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We aren't going to keep
them this way until midnight.
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Right, OK. So, bright lights.
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Bright lights and
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exciting context and...
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So in others words, a
television program maybe?
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Yes, particularly
violent television.
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And late hours, bright
lights, and another one...
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this is not Workman, this is
something we did at Loma Linda.
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A complete PhD thesis. I was
on the committee and here's what
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happened. The more
eggs you gave the mice,
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the shorter time
it was before they...
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you had puberty. Hmmm.
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And this is
happening in Europe right now.
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It has been for many
years. Look, girls became
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ladies at 17 years of
age in northern Europe,
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um-hmm, many years ago.
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Then it went to 16,
then 15, 14, 13, 12, 11.
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The youngest I've heard
of is 7 years in which a girl
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had a child at 7 years of age.
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Wow. And this is all because
of the intake of more dairy
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and different things that do
something with the pineal...?
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Not just dairy. This is
late hours, bright lights,
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excitement, and
stimulating food,
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hmmm, will put so much
stimulation in the bottom
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of the brain that
the neuroendocrinology
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is messed up. Um-hmm.
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And the bottom of the brain
will run away with everything.
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And so do you think that
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you're suggesting, then, that
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that's what's happening
in society today basically.
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Oh yes.
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Well let's say that...
you know... Mrs. X or Y
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or whatever, yes, has done
some things that the brain is
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completely out of control,
and how can she get back?
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Hah! A step at a
time. Now what I was saying.
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Let me explain it
this way: it's very simple.
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Junior looks in
the mirror and he says:
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Ahh. I'm taller than Dad.
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My chest is a man's chest.
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Um-hmm. I have male machinery.
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Um-hmm. My voice is changed.
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Where are the car keys?
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Um-hmm. OK. Now what I am
saying as a brain scientist:
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yes, the bottom of
his brain is over-mature
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but the top of
his brain is a child.
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So don't give him the keys...
Exactly why your insurance
00:21:54.93\00:21:59.15
bill for junior is
very high and out of sight
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until he is 24
years of age or so
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so that the judgment,
so that the frontal cortex
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will be more in charge.
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And so, these things,
instead of being theoretical
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and mystical, they are real -
and they affect our pocketbooks.
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They affect our families;
they affect our corporations,
00:22:23.02\00:22:27.04
our business. They
affect our whole nation;
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it makes a difference!
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Let me ask you a question
and now looking at the solution
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now. If we are
losing the battle, yes...,
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Ummm. Let's say
someone by age whatever
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you are suggesting very
young, yes, has gotten hooked on
00:22:41.91\00:22:45.00
late-night television programs
that are violent... yes...
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or this or that, yes, or
have different titillations
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as you would call them, yes,
that are stimulating the lower
00:22:50.43\00:22:52.38
brain and different things.
But now they are a teenager
00:22:52.48\00:22:55.31
and their parents get concerned
and they say OK now this has got
00:22:55.41\00:22:58.27
to come to a stop. Right.
Have they lost the battle then?
00:22:58.37\00:23:01.62
I mean there is, certainly with
a child sometimes you can say
00:23:01.73\00:23:04.43
you can't eat this,
you can't watch this,
00:23:04.53\00:23:06.25
you can't do this. But
then there has to come a time
00:23:06.36\00:23:08.06
when they say "Look,
I don't want to do this
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and I don't want
to do that. " Yes.
00:23:10.22\00:23:11.38
Ummm. Now, you know, it's
really... of course, with the
00:23:11.49\00:23:13.97
Internet and different things,
they can get into things that
00:23:14.07\00:23:15.82
you, right, don't know
what's happening. Right.
00:23:15.92\00:23:16.99
What do you do when they have
already gotten a taste for this
00:23:17.09\00:23:20.01
or that? What's
next? Now Don, do you want
00:23:20.11\00:23:25.80
a psychological
answer, a sociological answer,
00:23:25.90\00:23:29.91
or a scientific one?
Give me a scientific answer.
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OK. You're a scientist.
00:23:32.64\00:23:33.64
Most of them, in one word,
00:23:35.00\00:23:38.55
are ruined.
00:23:38.65\00:23:39.73
The brain is basically ruined
00:23:40.03\00:23:42.98
because they aren't going to
rise up and say... they aren't
00:23:43.09\00:23:45.68
going to rise up and say:
"My father and my mother -
00:23:45.75\00:23:49.61
they are right. I should
listen to them and study more
00:23:49.71\00:23:55.48
of my lessons and less of this
garbage. And I should give my
00:23:55.59\00:24:00.23
body a good, balanced diet.
I should get out there and mow
00:24:00.33\00:24:04.03
the lawn more and play less
of these violent computer games.
00:24:04.13\00:24:08.10
I should get with
it so I'll be a success
00:24:08.20\00:24:10.80
like they are talking about.
00:24:10.90\00:24:12.23
So do you have any
hope for us as a scientist?
00:24:12.33\00:24:14.51
Of course, of course.
00:24:14.62\00:24:16.30
If any person from, uhhh,
00:24:16.40\00:24:21.73
one year of age to
100, if they will say
00:24:21.83\00:24:25.43
"Yes, I will do what is
right. I will walk in the light.
00:24:25.53\00:24:31.20
I will go forward, "
then they can make progress.
00:24:31.30\00:24:33.76
You can change the brain.
Dendrites in the nerve cells
00:24:33.86\00:24:39.00
will grow until you
are over 90 years of age.
00:24:39.10\00:24:42.59
Hmmm. Actually grow.
And as we say, you can make
00:24:42.69\00:24:47.26
a new synapse on your dendrites
and on your nerve cells
00:24:47.36\00:24:49.77
in 2-1/2 hours.
A new connection?
00:24:49.87\00:24:52.87
A new connection; a new chip.
00:24:52.97\00:24:55.33
So in other words,
how do you... let's say...
00:24:55.44\00:24:57.87
In other words it's important
to say "I'm going to stop this
00:24:57.97\00:25:01.38
but I'm going to do this.
" And then that new chip...
00:25:01.48\00:25:03.17
Overcome evil with
good and go forward.
00:25:03.28\00:25:05.92
So when a young person...
When a young person decides
00:25:06.02\00:25:10.22
that they are going
to go forward and up
00:25:10.32\00:25:12.95
instead of in circles down...
00:25:13.05\00:25:16.73
Have you studied
that physiologically?
00:25:16.83\00:25:19.22
Do you see that when someone
is doing things that stimulate
00:25:19.32\00:25:22.16
the lower nature that the
lower portions of the brain
00:25:22.26\00:25:24.48
get larger? Others
have, and it's a fact.
00:25:24.66\00:25:29.02
Any portion of the brain that
is seriously used will grow.
00:25:29.12\00:25:33.67
Um-hmm. So, really, if
you knew what you were doing
00:25:33.77\00:25:37.27
you could open up someone's
brain and say this is what
00:25:37.38\00:25:39.31
you were focusing on and
this is what was happening.
00:25:39.41\00:25:41.69
Yes. So there's
hope for everybody.
00:25:41.79\00:25:44.12
But to be Pollyanna
and have a quick fix
00:25:44.22\00:25:48.30
for Dalmer, for
the death-row inmates,
00:25:48.40\00:25:54.02
is not in the cards. Um-hmm.
BUT, you've heard the good news.
00:25:54.12\00:25:59.24
Have you heard of
Morlin's program? No.
00:26:01.68\00:26:04.63
There is an entrepreneur
who is taking criminals
00:26:06.48\00:26:09.59
out in California, and he
puts them on a new program.
00:26:09.69\00:26:12.20
He gives them an excellent diet,
and instead of having a number
00:26:12.30\00:26:16.74
around the neck - 369285-
00:26:16.84\00:26:19.90
he puts their name.
00:26:20.00\00:26:23.02
Um-hmmm. See. Mr.
George Killemquick.
00:26:23.12\00:26:27.02
See... he puts their name. OK.
00:26:27.13\00:26:29.92
Their name on them
and teaches them trades.
00:26:30.02\00:26:34.61
Gives them action, activity,
hope, dignity, progress -
00:26:34.71\00:26:39.39
and it's working. Um-hmmm.
So they see something new.
00:26:39.49\00:26:43.46
So we can have some
type of assurance of victory?
00:26:43.56\00:26:48.00
Can we have peace in this
struggle in our own minds?
00:26:48.11\00:26:50.51
I mean, maybe someone watching
today is saying Look, I know
00:26:50.61\00:26:53.65
that the lower part of my
nature and this way I have been
00:26:53.76\00:26:55.73
feeding it. I want to
overcome it - it doesn't seem,
00:26:55.83\00:26:59.39
like I can. Yes. I'm weak. Yes.
00:26:59.49\00:27:03.30
I'm all these different things.
Yes. How can I have peace?
00:27:03.44\00:27:05.44
What would you say as a
scientist? As a scientist?
00:27:05.55\00:27:08.47
Well, it's very simple. You
could use the word polarization.
00:27:08.57\00:27:14.01
If the brain is
aimed - polarized, focused,
00:27:14.11\00:27:20.00
integrated - on Jesus Christ,
then there is hope for anybody
00:27:20.10\00:27:25.30
to really turn life
around and be a winner forever!
00:27:25.40\00:27:30.04
No matter what
they've done? Exactly.
00:27:30.14\00:27:32.72
We've been talking
with Dr. Bernell Baldwin.
00:27:32.82\00:27:35.65
We've been
talking about the brain.
00:27:35.75\00:27:38.17
He is a brain scientist.
We have learned that there is
00:27:38.27\00:27:41.22
battle between the lower part
of the brain and the upper part
00:27:41.32\00:27:43.60
of the brain. And in our culture
today we seem to be losing
00:27:43.70\00:27:47.72
that battle by the different
opportunities many have.
00:27:47.82\00:27:51.27
But there is hope;
it can be turned around,
00:27:51.37\00:27:53.30
and it's by focusing on Jesus.
We hope that you will do that.
00:27:53.40\00:27:58.98