Participants: Don Mackintosh, Bernell Baldwin
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000049
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00:49 Hello and welcome to Health for a Lifetime.
00:51 I'm your host Don Mackintosh and today we're delighted 00:54 to have Dr. Bernell Baldwin with us. Welcome doctor! 00:57 Glad to be here. Now I understand and probably 01:00 by seeing what's in your lap we also could figure out 01:03 that you are a specialist in brain sciences. 01:05 Correct. And you got your degree from the George Washington 01:10 University. Yes. And your Ph. D. was done in... 01:13 what was it again? This was in brain science 01:18 was the Ph. D. and support the areas biochemistry, 01:22 anatomy, and such. Supportive related fields. 01:26 I see. So, if I have any question about the brain or 01:31 different things like that, if you don't know the answer 01:33 you'll tell me but you probably will know at least a direction 01:36 to go today. Yes, this should be. 01:39 So this would be a good day to put on our thinking caps. 01:41 You know you have entitled this talk for this time together - 01:45 this dialogue that we are going to have - 01:48 "World War I of the Brain" or "Brain Wars. " 01:51 Right! What do you mean by that? 01:52 Brain war is a concept based on the electronics of the brain. 01:56 OK. And here's what's happening. I hold... 02:01 Here's a professional model of the brain. 02:04 The top of the brain should run the brain, 02:07 but the bottom of the brain is trying to mess up the rest. 02:11 For instance. Take violence. 02:16 If this portion of the brain near the hypothalamus... 02:20 If this portion of the brain is running the show, 02:23 people get hurt. Whereas if the frontal lobe 02:27 for spiritual control and if this back and side 02:31 of the cortex is running the show, then you have building 02:37 humanity instead of hurting humanity. 02:40 I see. So the front part of the brain needs to be the... 02:45 the quarterback - needs to be the one in charge, needs to be 02:48 the chief. Fullback. Fullback. Yes. The executive 02:50 centers are in the front of the brain. All right. 02:52 And the information banks are in the back. 02:57 But the troublemakers are in the bottom. 03:00 OK. So, in other words, we have built-in trouble. 03:03 Yes, ever since Adam. He listened to his wife 03:08 and got into trouble. OK. So we shouldn't listen 03:12 to our wives? We should listen to our wives 03:14 with discrimination. Works fine. And they should listen to us 03:18 with discrimination? Of course. Speaking of wives... 03:21 Here is the septal area of the brain. 03:25 Right there. I see. 03:29 If this portion of the brain is running things, 03:32 you have lust; whereas, if the frontal lobe is running 03:37 this portion, then you have love. 03:40 Mmmm. That's the story. 03:44 I see. So what does that have to do with our wives? 03:47 Well, this has a lot to do with the way we treat our wives. 03:50 I see. If we love and cherish the wife, she becomes a queen 03:55 and we become leaders. Whereas if the wife becomes a thing, 04:00 like the media push... Um-hmm. Yesterday, for instance, 04:05 they were speaking about the couple that got married 04:08 on television without ever seeing each other... 04:11 Um-hmm. Yesterday. 04:13 They were talking about this. Well, what we are saying 04:17 here today is that the war of the whole universe 04:22 involves each one of our brains. It's the battle for the mind. 04:27 And the top of the brain is in electronic and chemical war 04:32 with the bottom of the brain. And the bottom is fighting 04:35 the top - so we have what could be called trouble. 04:38 OK. So, really you know your hear a lot of people saying: 04:42 This is not your problem; this is not my problem. 04:47 It's something someone else did to me. 04:49 Would it be fair to say that while that may be true 04:51 in some cases the real concern or real problem we have is 04:55 really in our own minds? Yes, indeed. 04:58 And if we... we can choose... 05:02 If you look at the other side of this brain, the will 05:05 is located right there. That's the frontal lobe - 05:09 the left part, left front. Yes, left front. 05:12 And if this portion of the brain is intact, 05:15 then in spite of irritation... Um-hmm. 05:20 in spite of frustration, in spite of trouble, 05:25 a person can say "I choose to do what's right. 05:30 I'm going to practice the Golden Rule now 05:33 instead of hitting this child from impulse. " 05:37 Um-hmm. Well, tell us a little bit more about the war 05:43 in the brain. How does it? You've said that really 05:48 there is this... this... what would you say 05:50 combat between the lower portions and the - yes - 05:52 upper portions of the brain. Right. 05:55 What are the ways that the lower part of the brain 05:59 will get the ascendancy? 06:00 All right, it's a very good question. 06:02 It's very simple. Take hamburgers, for instance. 06:08 Um. A little background. Most of the brain is behind 06:13 a blood brain barrier so that the bad chemicals in the blood 06:17 cannot produce temporary insanity. 06:21 OK, so in other words, they don't let everything that you 06:23 put into your bloodstream get there... right... 06:25 to mess up your synapses. Temporary insanity meaning 06:29 for instance if you have alcohol that would make you... 06:31 But that gets to the brain, doesn't it? 06:33 That's a different story because the alcohol molecule is so small 06:37 it will go right through the blood brain barrier. 06:40 So the things that we have discovered that go through 06:42 the blood brain barrier are our way of... That's one way of 06:46 messing things up. Messing things up! Yes, indeed. 06:49 Now here's another one. Hamburgers, you said something 06:51 about hamburgers. Yes, that's right where we're going. 06:54 People don't realize this. Even in uteruses 07:00 they tend to neglect this. All the neuroendocrine areas 07:03 are outside of the blood brain barrier - so yesterday's 07:07 hamburger, this morning's bacon and eggs, 07:11 tomorrow's mistakes in nutrition, 07:16 the blood, going through the neuroendocrine areas including 07:20 the hypothalamus, will so stimulate the hypothalamus 07:24 that the bottom of the brain becomes in charge. 07:30 So if you eat a hamburger, your bottom of your brain 07:33 is in charge. What about the hamburger is doing it? 07:36 The byproducts in the death of the cells 07:40 and in the heating, the cooking of the cells... 07:44 I have a whole book at Wildwood from Japan by Sigura 07:48 showing that when you fry or you heat, braise, boil, 07:53 high-temperature cooking, you make mutagens. 07:59 So it doesn't necessarily have to be meat? You could fry 08:03 soy beans... Yes! Yes! Don't eat burned soybeans! 08:11 All right, that's the way that works. 08:13 Now, this point of view 08:17 is not just private interpretation 08:20 because the Good Book mentions in Psalms about this. 08:25 He gave them the request BUT sent leanness into their soul. 08:31 Where is that from? What story is that from? 08:37 This is in the Psalms... Having to do with the exodus? 08:42 Oh, yes. And about how the food that they ate 08:45 yes... or they wanted to to eat this food but 08:47 He sent them leanness of soul because of their choice? 08:50 Right! Because of all this dead quail that they ate. 08:53 All right. And you remember they got sick by the thousand 08:55 and died - lots of them died - because of this bad diet. 09:00 And now you are saying that science has proven 09:02 that that is what happens. In other words, the bottom part 09:05 portion of the brain was in charge instead of the top. 09:07 Right! Not only that, not only that... and we perhaps 09:12 will discuss this on another program... 09:14 There is more than twice as much dementia 09:17 in Seventh-day Adventists who eat a lot of meat... 09:20 versus those who... who are vegetarians. OK. 09:24 And a leading chemist in Texas by the name of Dr. Torda 09:29 she showed for the first time that byproduct of meat called 09:33 xanthene will reduce the ability of the brain to make 09:37 acetylcholine. So the top of the brain goes down, 09:42 when you eat meat and the bottom of the brain is stimulated. 09:47 Now, Russian endocrinologists have shown this. 09:50 One meal of meat to a dog will so stimulate the hypothalamus 09:55 that the stress hormones go up like this... you see... 09:59 whereas with bread they go like that. 10:02 So there is direct chemical evidence that what we eat 10:06 changes the balance of power between the top of the brain 10:10 and the bottom. OK. So - if you want the 10:15 lower brain to work well or not be the leader... eat bread. 10:20 If you want the upper... in other words, if you want 10:22 the upper brain in charge but if you want the lower brain 10:24 eat a hamburger. Right! This will do it! 10:27 This will do it. Another thing, 10:30 I have... In my brain lab, I have put depth electrodes 10:36 into the hypothalamus of anesthesthetized animals 10:39 and shown that when you put stimulating dietary chemicals 10:43 in the stomach, the wires from the stomach to the brain 10:47 are activated and they make noise that goes up to 10:51 to this region of the brain and upsets the chemical input 10:55 balance between the bottom of the brain and the top. 10:58 So what are these chemical things you put in there? 11:01 Spices. Like? Black pepper! What about salsa? 11:07 Ahhah. I didn't test salsa and have no comment about it. 11:12 But stuff like pepper, allspice, cloves... 11:17 these chemicals in the stomach will shift the balance of power 11:21 to the bottom of the brain and tends to make a person... 11:25 Have you ever met somebody that had a short fuse? 11:27 Impulsive, see. So you are really dependent on 11:33 if someone puts spices and different things on their plate 11:35 in the morning you could have an explosion in the afternoon. 11:38 Yes... even before you get there. And if your way is 11:42 crossed, you see, you could be snippy to the children 11:45 instead of loving and kind and self-controlled. 11:50 It really makes a difference. I had a friend who said, 11:52 she has two children, and she said well this one child of mine 11:58 when I was pregnant I ate this type of food... yes... 12:02 and it was real spicy. Anything to that? 12:05 Yes, this can really make a difference. 12:08 What we eat... Now, another thing you can do 12:11 to shift the balance of power to the bottom of the brain... 12:14 I put a depth electrode into the hypothalamus, and I put a beat 12:20 into the brain. A beat? A beat! 12:23 Like a beat... Like a sound? Yes! 12:27 A beat... like that. And pretty quick the cortex 12:31 of the brain resisted the beat. And after a short time 12:36 the whole brain beat in rhythm with the beat. 12:40 So, oh really? 12:42 Really! The frontal lobe, everything? 12:46 Everything. This is the strategy back of Babylonian music. 12:50 Hmmm. What do you mean Babylonian music? 12:54 I mean by that... confusing music, you mean? Yes! 12:57 Confusing music. And music that instead of having a nice 13:02 balance of harmony and melody and rhythm so that you have 13:07 action and inspiration and beauty. 13:11 Instead, you have confusion! 13:13 Hmmm. So the beat business like Belgian-Congo music 13:18 is not what you want to develop cultured, self-controlled 13:23 individuals that have poise, power, and success. 13:28 Let me ask this question: You did your PhD on brain 13:32 physiology - right - and the connection between the brain 13:34 and the heartbeat. Right. Ummm. And in the heart, 13:38 if I understand... correct me if I'm wrong... 13:40 if you have one cell aside from those leader cells that 13:45 make the upper heart beat together and the lower heart 13:47 beat together, yes, if you have them kind of going on their own, 13:50 it can cause confusion and the heart can get confused 13:52 and just fibrillate - and then the person dies. 13:56 Is this same thing you are saying about the brain? 13:57 Yes, indeed. So that the brain 14:02 is an ensemble of special-purpose computers. 14:06 And, the point is: what we see, what we hear, 14:12 what we eat, what we think, the through-put, 14:16 what we do with the brain is going to influence 14:19 whether we are going to be wise... or foolish. 14:23 OK. So, you've said some things that can make us foolish. 14:26 You've said that if we eat certain types of foods: 14:28 you mentioned hamburgers, spices... Yes! 14:31 and then certain things that we listen to, yes, namely 14:35 heavy, over... music that's not balanced with too much 14:39 beat... anything else than can really make the lower portions 14:43 of the brain be in control? 14:45 Why certainly! Another thing you could do to make the lower 14:48 centers of the brain - and that is follow impulse. 14:53 By choices, then habits, then action... 14:57 and then character. 14:59 So it's not good to say well I feel like that and then 15:03 based... Now, where are feelings located in the brain? 15:06 Well, are you talking about shallow feelings 15:11 or integrated feelings? Now you sound like a brain scientist! 15:16 I'm talking you know like the common expression where 15:18 someone says well I just, I just feel like having this. 15:21 Or I just feel like doing that. Yes. Now the center of that 15:25 would be under my finger right there. 15:28 Thalamus. Um-hmm. So circuits centering in the thalamus are 15:32 very important with feelings. But here's good news. 15:39 We can... we can share feelings with our loved ones 15:45 with friends and with people - even with the dog. 15:48 So the dog is happier, we are happier, everybody is happier 15:54 because it's in a climate of love... not hatred. 15:57 So there are deep, integrated feelings. Yes! 16:00 You know, I want to talk more about that when we come back. 16:02 We've been talking with Dr. Bernell Baldwin. 16:05 He's a brain specialist... a brain scientist. 16:08 And it DOES matter what you eat, what you drink, what you do 16:11 concerning your brain. When we come back we are going to talk 16:14 about some positive things about how to win the war 16:17 that goes on. Join us. 16:25 Have you found yourself wishing that you could shed a few 16:27 pounds? 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Call or write today for your free copy of 17:15 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 17:17 and you can be on your way 17:18 to a healthier, happier you. 17:20 It's absolutely free of charge, 17:22 so call or write today. 17:26 We've been talking with Dr. Bernell Baldwin. 17:29 He's a brain scientist from Wildwood. 17:32 He was a professor for 14 years teaching doctors really 17:35 how to think about the brain and other people. 17:37 And we've had an exciting time looking at this war 17:40 that you have described in our own brains. 17:42 There are different parts of the brain that, when stimulated, 17:45 vie to be the leaders - if I understand correctly. Yes. 17:47 Correct. And we can, we can through our choices 17:51 have either the lower part of the brain be in control 17:54 or the upper or frontal lobe that really makes us separate 17:58 from animals, right? Yes! OK. And then as we closed 18:02 we were talking about habits; we were talking about feelings 18:04 and we were talking about that whole process. 18:08 What is a habit? How is it developed? 18:10 What are the things that we can do to win the war 18:13 between the two sections of the brain? 18:16 Yes. Well, a habit is a pattern of nerve cells that are 18:21 hooked up by synapses to do a job. 18:24 Like blink an eye. Like make saliva. 18:28 Like guide a car. Um-hmm. Much of this is automatic. 18:34 Some of these are involuntary, automatic, and some are 18:36 the things that we... we have input into. 18:39 Yes. Now if it's more complicated, 18:41 and if we have to steer the car to avoid that truck, 18:44 um-hmm, that is a higher process. 18:46 All right. Well, then how... what is the process whereby 18:52 we know where we are in this battle? 18:55 You said that, you basically said, that the lower parts of 18:58 the brain shouldn't be leading; the upper part should be. 19:02 How can we know if we are losing the battle? 19:03 How can we know if the lower section of our brain 19:05 is in control? Why, it's very simple. 19:07 If we will look at 3ABN with both eyes open 19:11 and listen to what's being said, we can figure out 19:15 that, say, there's light... I should walk in it. 19:19 Hmm. And we are doing it, if we are walking in it, 19:22 then the frontal lobe will tell us FORWARD. 19:25 Whereas, if we treat 3ABN 19:30 like an extended pious commercial, 19:34 then we are headed for ashes 19:37 instead of beauty forever. 19:39 Well, isn't that just a matter of preference? 19:41 I mean, someone's maybe watching right now and they say 19:43 Wait a minute! That's a religious backing 19:46 to those programs that you are on and different things. 19:49 And you are just saying that you are wanting me to 19:52 believe in Christ and Christianity... yes, yes... 19:54 and, you know, I understand where you are coming from but 19:58 let's just say someone doesn't agree with that... 20:00 How can they choose between sources of revelation? 20:03 Is that part of this whole conflict? Well, of course! 20:05 This conflict in the brain - this brain war - um-hmm - 20:11 is heating up, and it's getting hotter every day. 20:15 But here's the good news. 20:16 When we are born, the bottom of the brain runs everything. 20:21 Parents know this vividly. 20:25 It's common for a child, the first time they're given 20:28 applesauce, to throw it on the floor. 20:30 Um-hmm. In a little dish. The bottom of the brain 20:33 is running things. But here's the good news. 20:38 In spite of all the negatives in the bottom of the brain, 20:44 Christianity is the only system 20:46 that will produce a revolution in the brain 20:51 so that all things become new 20:54 and they have a complete turnaround of the brain. 20:56 Because when the will is given to God, God can perform 21:01 a miracle so that the top is on the top 21:05 and the bottom is on the bottom. 21:09 Hmm. So... other religions can't do that? 21:12 Take Hutchins. Hutchins is? 21:17 President, President of the University of Chicago. 21:20 OK. He said he is leaving the University of Chicago 21:24 because the modern university has lost the power to save man. 21:30 We've got the good news from the Bible, 21:33 from heaven, that God has the power to save anybody 21:37 including Hutchins. Hmmm. And the way this happens... 21:42 this new birth is a miracle! 21:44 Not just a tedious process of accretion so that 21:50 the top of the brain can be the top. 21:53 And when we give ourselves to God then we can learn from 21:55 Him how to love this son who is in trouble. 22:00 Um-hmm. How to love this daughter that needs help. 22:04 Sounds like you are speaking of this from personal experience. 22:07 And instead of kicking the dog, we train the dog. 22:11 Um-hmm. Yes. Instead of snipping at the secretaries, 22:15 we encourage the secretaries. Oh, yes. 22:19 So instead of talking theory we are talking experience. 22:22 For instance, before I went into brain science 22:26 my goal in life was to design the fastest airplane 22:30 in the world. Um-hmm. I thrived. I led my class in physics. 22:35 I thrived on this, and my model was Howard Hughes. 22:39 Um-hmm. But after studying the Bible over Nero's box in the 22:43 Colosseum, Howard Hughes shrunk. And he got so small 22:46 that he and Rosalind Russell could go right through 22:50 one rivet hole. So that wasn't your big, 22:54 consuming passion and there was something else that 22:56 took its place. No. And I find it's a lot more 23:00 thrilling and fulfilling and interesting 23:04 to help humanity instead of just making big bucks 23:07 making a larger house, a larger car, 23:10 and more pairs of shoes in the wife's closet. 23:17 Well said. So, let's talk then about this. 23:20 You're saying that there needs to be a decision, really, if we 23:23 want to get our brains focused the right way? Right. 23:26 The frontal lobe in control, the upper portions of the brain 23:29 in control. There needs to be a decision to look at some power 23:32 outside ourselves? Right, right. 23:34 And this... Does this happen regardless of what we do? 23:38 I mean, do humans have to look somewhere outside themselves? 23:43 Of course we need to cooperate. 23:44 Um-hmm. We need to cooperate. 23:48 But take the song Amazing Grace. 23:52 Where did it come from? 23:55 John Newton was in the slave business, and he was converted. 24:00 His frontal lobe became the crown of his creation, 24:05 and he cooperated with God. 24:07 And so Amazing Grace has been blessing the hearts 24:11 of millions of people ever since because the brain - instead 24:16 of being upside down with hedonism... Um-hmm... 24:20 became right side up with applied Christianity. 24:24 Um-hmm, um-hmm. As we close out this segment, 24:29 I want to get some real practics for us. You know, we talked 24:32 at the first part of the program about things we should avoid. 24:35 Yes. We talked about meats with arachidonic acid or different 24:39 things like that that you had mentioned. Things that cross the 24:41 blood brain barrier that cause the lower portions to win. 24:45 What are some other things that we can do, eat, drink, think, 24:49 different things that we can do, to put the right forces 24:54 in our brain in charge? Yes. One of the best things 24:57 you can do is to take careful attention to choosing 25:02 your grandparents. Well, how can you do that? 25:05 This is a little rugged to do, isn't it? 25:07 Um-hmm. Now take a self-control receptor in the brain 25:12 called the GABBA receptor. 25:15 It has recently been discovered that heavy use of alcohol 25:18 can genetically destroy this receptor so that 25:23 instead of being whole it is ruined permanently. 25:26 And so that's the grandfather? Yes indeed, the grandfather! 25:32 And so one reason why we are having more violence in schools 25:35 and why the White House is confusing instead of 25:40 constructive and creative 25:42 is because the, technically, the behavioral teratology 25:47 the damage from alcohol, tobacco, drugs, 25:52 bad nutrition, bad habits, imbalanced education, 25:56 so much of this piling up that the junk DNA is multiplying 26:00 in the human genome, and what we've really got 26:03 is piles of liabilities. 26:08 And instead of having Abraham Lincoln... 26:11 You know, we need more Abraham Lincolns. 26:13 And it will take more than a quick fix to do this. 26:17 One person at a time. One person at a time, one part 26:21 at a time. And, to get very practical, one choice at a time. 26:25 Is ADD and these different types of things a result of problems? 26:31 It's involved. Involved. By scan evidence, 26:33 new scan evidence, in attention deficit disorder 26:37 the frontal lobe of the brain is out to lunch. 26:40 Um-hmm. And when a child is built this way, 26:45 when they are this big. When they are raised this way, 26:48 by impulse and feeling instead of by principle, 26:52 then the frontal lobe atrophies because it's not used. Um-hmm. 26:57 You see. So atrophy of disuse is a very real factor in this. 27:02 We are going to need to discuss a little more 27:04 about the brain war, right, to wrap this up. 27:07 What about scripture memory? 27:09 Excellent. For instance: "For God so loved me... 27:15 you... us... that He gave His only begotten Son 27:20 that whosoever believeth in Him SHOULD NOT PERISH 27:24 but have everlasting life. " That abundant life starts now! 27:30 We've been talking with Dr. Bernell Baldwin. 27:32 We've been talking about the brain and about its importance. 27:36 About what we eat, about what we drink, 27:39 about what we do and how it stimulates different portions 27:42 of the brain. Dr. Baldwin has suggested that the lower 27:45 sections of the brain should be following the upper sections 27:49 of the brain - the frontal lobe. 27:50 And we have learned some interesting and exciting things. 27:53 We hope that it's a help to you and that as a result 27:56 you'll have health that lasts for a lifetime. |
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