Participants: Don Mackintosh, Bernell Baldwin
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000048
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00:47 Hello and welcome to Health for a Lifetime.
00:49 I'm your host Don Macintosh and today I'm delighted to have 00:52 Dr. Bernell Baldwin with us. Welcome, Dr. Baldwin! 00:55 Glad to be here. Now, when you call someone a doctor today 00:59 you need to know what that means. What's your specialty? 01:02 Neurophysiology. Brain science. 01:04 Brain science! OK, neurophysiology. 01:07 The way the neurons... I guess that would be the nerves 01:09 relate... The chemistry, the electronics, and 01:12 the mathematics of the brain. What's the most important part 01:14 of the brain, would you say? Or is there a part that's more 01:16 important than another? Oh, yes! 01:18 It's called the front brain system. 01:20 OK. Well that's what we're going to talk about today, right? 01:22 The frontal lobe... right... and the front brain system. 01:26 Does that mean there's more parts than just one? 01:27 Oh yes, yes. There are 10 to 14 billion components 01:32 in the outside six layers of the human brain, 01:37 and 40% of these, approximately, 1/3 to 40% are in front. 01:43 And the reason I call this the front brain system 01:46 is because no part of the brain is an island, and the front 01:51 brain controls the rest of the brain through electronics. 01:55 And so when the front is clicking right 01:58 the rest of the brain succeeds instead of failing. 02:02 I see. So in other words, would you say the front brain 02:05 has to be actually leading out or else we are going to have 02:07 confusion? Right. Now I understand when you did your 02:10 PhD at George Washington that you actually studied how 02:13 the brain relates to the heart. Yes. We discovered and reported 02:18 to the American Physiological Society that within one 02:21 heart cycle the front brain will speed up the human heart 02:25 in anticipation of exercise to come. 02:28 Oh, so in other words, it says watch out... the guy's going to 02:31 run and get ready... all systems go... ventricles, yes, contract 02:36 atrium relax... - exactly - just... just... just... OK. 02:40 Well, I notice that you brought your friend here with you... 02:43 Yes. And I assume that this may be the brain. 02:47 Oh yes. Here is a model of the brain under this cap, 02:53 and a fascinating thing about the frontal lobe is 02:56 it's the largest lobe of the whole brain and it goes 03:00 clear back to here. OK. And in men it takes 30 years 03:05 to finish it. So the frontal lobe then goes from here 03:08 all the way back to... clear back to here - 03:11 back of the motor strip... clear back there. 03:14 It's the last one to be finished. So you said something 03:17 just in passing. It takes how long for it to be finished? 03:20 Thirty years. For man? For man. For the anatomy to be finished. 03:26 OK. For the structure to be there. How long for women? 03:30 Twenty-five years. Twenty-five years? So women are 03:33 smarter than men by age 25. Faster, five years faster. 03:38 The brain is 180 grams lighter and simpler - takes 5 years less 03:42 to insulate the wires in the brain. Five years shorter, 03:47 faster. For a female vs. a male? 03:50 Exactly. Hmmm... interesting! 03:52 Well, tell us a little bit more about how this is organized. 03:55 What goes on in this frontal lobe? 03:57 Well, I think one of the best ways to illustrate this 04:02 and to really communicate it would be the famous classic case 04:06 of Phineas Gage. He was a foreman on the railroad 04:10 and when he was tamping powder in rock his crowbar slipped. 04:15 Now, we live in a mobile society. The next time you visit 04:20 Boston if you go to the Harvard Medical Museum, 04:24 across from the Lane Medical Library you can see 04:28 Phineas Gage's crowbar and his skull. 04:32 So you said he was tamping something - powder - with his 04:36 rod... In other words, where they blow 04:37 out the rock and different things... Yes, and he slipped 04:40 and exploded and shot this sharp crowbar, pointed at one end, 04:45 out of this hole underneath his left eye. And it went right up 04:49 through his frontal lobe, and it's the fastest documented 04:53 lobotomy in history! Wow! So what happened to him 04:57 as a result of that? Now... it's better than a movie! 05:04 Because it didn't destroy his motor strip, he walked part way 05:08 to see Dr. Harlow. So he walked from the scene of the accident, 05:12 yes, to go to the doctor? Yes, and he rode the rest of the 05:15 way in an ox cart. And... according to Dr. Harlow... 05:21 Now, I went to the National Library of Medicine 05:23 and studied the original records of Dr. Harlow, 05:26 and here's what he reported: after this lobotomy, 05:30 deep lobotomy - not a shallow one. 05:32 So, way back here in the brain. Something like that? 05:35 Clear back to the motor strip. 05:37 It went right under his left eye. 05:38 Of course, blind in the left eye. Um hmm. And it destroyed 05:43 his left frontal lobe and part of the right. 05:48 Here's what happened to him. According to Dr. Harlow 05:51 in his original reports, 1. He became irreverent. 05:55 2. He became irascible. 3... What was that second word? 06:00 Irascible. Which means? An adult teenager; high voltage. 06:04 3... High voltage, huh? Yes. Yes. 06:08 He became irresponsible. And - get a load of this - 06:12 he lost love for his family and children forever. 06:15 Nothing but chasing around California and South America. 06:19 He became instantly modern: wine, women and song... NOW. 06:25 No impulse control, no self control. Right! 06:27 Gone forever. You said that only half or 3/4 of the frontal lobe 06:33 was gone, so... On the left, which is the dominant one 06:37 in the right-handed individual. It was ruined... 06:40 clear back to the motor strip. So it took away the common sense 06:45 abilities or, what you would say, desire for relationships 06:49 and a relationship with family members as well as with others 06:54 and then with God. Oh, yes! 06:55 So his vertical dimensions of his personhood destroyed. 07:01 Horizontal relationships destroyed. 07:04 He became a thing instead of a person. 07:07 Now you know I have heard some people, and I think maybe you 07:10 are one of the best people to ask about this, I have heard 07:12 some people talk about the brain and they have said that there is 07:16 a right brain and there is a left brain and there is 07:18 this and that. Did he lose his left brain? 07:22 Is that the way you would say that? 07:25 Phineas Gage's brain was destroyed in front of my finger 07:32 over to this hand so that the executive centers were 07:37 permanently ruined. The will? Yes. Self control. 07:41 And the electronic machinery for love, for wisdom, 07:45 and the higher faculties of man. You said this was the fastest 07:49 lobotomy... What are some slow ways? 07:52 Slow ways is the ice pick lobotomy. 07:57 What's that? Ice pick lobotomy? 07:59 You know, it's a custom in American history 08:02 for ideas to be generated somewhere else. 08:05 But when we come to America we put them on the assembly line. 08:08 All right. So Freeman and Watts went over to St. Elizabeth's 08:12 Hospital and they did several thousand lobotomies. 08:16 And here was the way. They would take this lady, 08:19 locally anesthetize the skin over the eye, 08:22 and they would take an ice-pick-like device 08:28 and drive this into the brain - sometimes with a hammer. 08:31 They would wag this to cut the white living wires between the 08:36 front of the brain and the rest and then when this lobotomy 08:39 was finished, this lady is permanently tranquillized. 08:43 Hmmm. So, they don't do that any more, do they? 08:46 Not very often. It was against the law in Russia 08:51 very shortly when the side effects were explained. 08:56 So what are other ways that you could do a lobotomy? 09:01 Another way to do a lobotomy is with a bottle. 09:05 It's fascinating. You take a bottle and you pour in a jigger 09:09 - you know, whiskey - or in a wine glass 09:13 or they have them in cans - these beer cans... 09:16 All right. So... moderate consumption of alcohol 09:19 will kill the small cells in the frontal lobe to such an extent 09:24 that you get an alcoholic lobotomy. 09:28 Wow! So, in other words, even moderate drinking will kill... 09:32 Does it start killing brain cells in the frontal lobe 09:35 exclusively or all over the brain? 09:36 No. Wherever there are cells small enough. I see. 09:42 And they happen to be in the frontal lobe and also in the 09:45 cerebellum underneath. So, that's where coordination is? 09:49 Exactly! I see. So would it affect your thinking 09:52 first or your coordination? Thinking. 09:56 And, temporarily of course, alcohol would produce violence 10:02 and disinhibition... taking the brakes off. 10:05 And this is a major reason why women and children get hurt 10:10 when alcohol is used. Um-hmm. So if someone's watching today 10:16 and they are in a situation where someone's drinking 10:18 they are actually dealing with someone that's done a 10:20 frontal lobotomy. Now, is that reversible 10:23 when the alcohol wears off? Certainly this is reversible. 10:27 It is called translation. Translation? Yes! 10:31 In the twinkling of an eye they get a new frontal lobe. 10:33 But we've got good news, good news. And this quantitative 10:37 scan information. Let my hand represent 10:42 the folds of the brain. The better the brain, 10:46 the tighter the cracks called sulci. 10:49 Alcohol... The cracks get wide; full of water - 10:53 and you have less and less brains and more and more cracks 10:56 until you become a senior politician. 11:00 Now here's the good news. Here's the good news. 11:04 When you go on the wagon and use things like pineapple juice, 11:08 papaya juice, you see... tomato juice, 11:11 the cracks tighten up... even in the experienced drinker. 11:15 So if you wanted to stop drinking... Yes... 11:21 the best thing to then drink is pineapple juice, apple juice, 11:23 tomato juice... or just avoid alcohol. 11:26 Yes, avoid alcohol. And... tomato juice with a little 11:30 bit of wheat germ stirred in it is ideal because of the 11:34 concentration of B vitamins in the wheat germ. 11:37 OK. Because they are really deficit in vitamin B. Oh yes. 11:41 Yeah. When I worked in a hospital that's what we would 11:43 give to every person that we suspected of drinking 11:46 is vitamin B when they would come in. You can make a new 11:49 synapse in 2-1/2 hours. Is that right? 11:52 So a new synapse meaning a new connection. Connection! 11:55 between one nerve cell and another. 11:57 And so just because a good friend has been drinking 12:01 for years this is no sign that if they get serious, if they get 12:05 God's power, their cooperation, and they go forward... 12:08 then the computer can get a new chip in 2-1/2 hours. 12:12 So some tomato juice, some wheat germ, and then that helps those 12:16 cracks come... the sulci, whatever - the sulci - 12:19 as you call them and then get them doing things that are going 12:23 to cause their synapses to regenerate. Yes! 12:25 What are some other things they could do? 12:27 Helping young people instead of hurting them. 12:29 Taking the wife out for dinner instead of griping about 12:33 the one you've got. OK... so in other words... and that 12:37 helps build new synapses? Oh, yes. 12:39 How does that work? Oh, because of protein synthesis. 12:44 And, since you asked, this is facilitated by two hours of 12:49 delta wave sleep before midnight. So, if you go to bed 12:54 at 10 o'clock... yes... at least by 10 o'clock that's important. 12:58 Yes. What if you work the night shift? 12:59 Then you shape your biorhythms for the day 13:02 and it will work fine. In other words, you really darken 13:06 your room, you do all those different things, so you think 13:08 it's night. Right! And this will work just fine. 13:11 So there is hope for everybody, but we need wisdom for everybody 13:15 for prevention. Um-hmm. Prevention. Hard to beat! 13:19 Hard to beat? Yes! OK, any other things that we 13:22 shouldn't do or we SHOULD DO for our frontal lobe? 13:25 Another way to make a lobotomy is with silverware. 13:28 Silverware lobotomy? Overuse of the fork 13:32 will do the job, particularly on entrees like... you've heard of 13:36 dead pig? Dead pig! Yes! Well I've never heard it called 13:39 that... yes... When people eat dead pig 13:42 the saturated fat and the other chemicals that are in there 13:46 they do a job on arteries. First in the heart 13:52 and then 10 or 15 years later on the brain arteries. 13:55 I see. So in other words, high-fat, high-cholesterol... 13:58 those different types of things. Do they work... when they get 14:02 to the brain - they probably go through the blood - do they work 14:05 first of all again on the small cells like you were saying 14:07 earlier? Yes... through oxygen deficiency. I see. 14:11 Why the brain just gradually dies from the top down... 14:15 and the top is the frontal lobe. Um-hmm. So it does a job on it. 14:20 Another way to do a lobotomy would be with conventional 14:25 education. Conventional education? What do you mean 14:28 by that? Conventional education stuffs the back of the brain 14:32 with information and the media stuff the bottom of the brain 14:37 with hedonistic garbage. Ok, unpack that a bit for me. 14:42 The media goes right through the frontal brain and it is stored 14:45 somewhere else? No, it activates, facilitates, and 14:49 enriches. It builds the bottom of the brain with conventional 14:53 media. Now 3ABN is different! OK! So... but ordinary 14:58 commercialized Hollywood will jam the bottom of the brain 15:03 with negative inputs. Like you've heard/we've all heard it: 15:08 garbage in, garbage out. 15:11 So, the types of music you listen to... oh yes... the types 15:13 of things you see... yes... you are saying that certain 15:16 things go right past the frontal lobe? Well if the frontal lobe 15:20 is healthy, that can be controlled. 15:22 But a lot of people have enough brains and presence of mind 15:26 to turn the media on but not enough to turn it off 15:31 or change it. Um-hmm. So... it feeds not the place where the 15:37 will power is... but... yes... the lower nature. 15:40 OK. So, it gets things... the ox before the... 15:44 or the cart before the ox so to speak. 15:46 Now, another way to produce lobotomy 15:50 is with conventional church. Conventional church? 15:53 Wait a minute, I want to spend some time on that. 15:56 We are going to go to a break. We've been talking to 15:58 Dr. Bernell Baldwin. He's a brain scientist, and he has 16:02 told us about the brain. When we come back we are 16:04 going to talk about some other effects of damaging our 16:07 frontal lobe... and how to fix it. Join us. 16:16 Have you found yourself wishing that you could shed a few 16:18 pounds? 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We've been talking with Dr. Bernell Baldwin 17:20 and Dr. Baldwin's a brain scientist. 17:23 We're glad that you're with us today... a neuro-physiologist. 17:27 And we've been talking about the frontal lobe 17:29 and the importance of that, how to keep it healthy. 17:32 Ways that we can damage it, and we were talking about 17:36 ways to damage the frontal lobe. We are going to end on a 17:38 positive note about how to fix it, I assume? 17:40 Oh yes... But one of the things you had mentioned was 17:44 conventional church can be very damaging to our frontal lobe. 17:48 What did you mean by that? Well, the average church is 17:53 a low-voltage party. And what you mean by low-voltage 17:58 is that it doesn't electrically stimulate our brain? 18:01 Is that what you mean? Right. In the right places. 18:04 OK. See. What really should happen in church is 18:08 people should come together and you should have social 18:10 reinforced experiencing God's love, His truth, and 18:16 His power! OK. So what you are saying 18:19 in conventional churches that doesn't happen? Are you 18:21 saying, right, conventional churches don't have love, truth, 18:23 and power? Theoretically... but it doesn't get the back row. 18:28 What do you mean by that? 18:30 I mean by this that usually the minister is thinking 18:36 boring thoughts; he's preaching boring messages; and the people 18:40 are having are having a boring experience! 18:42 I see. Well, some people say the way to fix that up is to have 18:46 contemporary music with a heavy beat or this or that to have 18:50 drama, have different things that include different parts of 18:53 the brain. Is that true? False? What would you say? 18:55 Well, they are getting warm. But a better way would be like 19:01 the apostolic church did it. OK. And, here's the way they 19:05 did it. They got together and they prayed together, 19:09 and they asked God to cleanse their lives and prepare them to 19:13 reach the world in one generation. 19:16 Um-hmm. And they got so clean and so open and so united 19:21 that the Holy Spirit turned on Pentecostal blessing. 19:25 and they turned the whole world right-side-up in one generation. 19:28 Wow! So in other words, letting the Holy Spirit, 19:33 the ultimate high-voltage presentation come in and, yes... 19:37 Let me just follow up on this because recently I was 19:40 listening to someone who was lecturing on this subject 19:44 - a friend gave me a tape - and there was the suggestion that 19:47 the brain has different quadrants: right lobe, 19:52 upper lobe, right lower lobe, left upper lobe... yes... 19:55 in other words four quadrants. And then the suggestion was made 19:59 that, hey, all of these different parts of the brain 20:02 experience worship in different ways. 20:04 One is very conservative; one is very non-conservative. 20:08 One is this way; one is that way. Is there anything to that? 20:11 I'm speaking as a neuro- physiologist. 20:13 Oh yes. Now in neurophysiology, brain science, the brain has 20:17 five lobes. OK. Five lobes on each side. 20:22 All right. So this gives you ten for starters. 20:26 So the four idea is out? Oh yes, yes. 20:30 They do not fly... not fly with a neurophysiologist. 20:33 Not in brain science. OK. In anatomy. 20:36 See I've got a professional model here of the brain 20:38 that cost bookoo bucks, and the brain is not divided in 20:44 quadrants. So in other words to make those applications is 20:47 a stretch. More than a stretch, it's a leap of the imagination 20:52 instead of faith. Um-hmm. Well let's come back to this. 20:56 Yes. So in other words then you know a quote comes to my mind 21:01 the most profitable meetings for spiritual advancement are those 21:06 which are characterized by solemnity and deep searching 21:10 of heart. Yes. Your statement is exactly right 21:15 because in true worship the frontal lobe is alive, 21:19 awake, and active... um-hmm... instead of on a shelf 21:25 while the drumbeats of Babylon are pacing the brain. 21:30 So it has everything to do with what type of stimuli 21:36 what they do when they arrive at our eyes or our ears 21:40 or what not. Exactly! Exactly! Well let's talk... you know, 21:44 we have several minutes here where I want to just really 21:47 focus in on what we can do to maybe make our brain healthy 21:53 or get us on the right foot. Yes. 21:55 Let's go through some different things. 21:56 Let's say I'm a parent, I'm a mother, and I want my 21:58 children to have healthy frontal lobes. 22:00 Yes... it's very simple. Here's they way to do it. 22:03 Study the Bible and you will learn a mother should never 22:06 drink alcohol... OK... because when they drink even a little 22:11 bit of alcohol... Since women are deficient in alcohol 22:14 dehydrogenase, then they spoil the brain electronically 22:18 before they are born... I see. So that instead of the 22:22 frontal lobe being in charge why the hypothalamus is running the 22:25 show. So... if someone's pregnant, someone's watching, 22:29 especially avoid this. What about smoking? 22:31 Smoking... that's for the carburetor. 22:34 We are dealing with a computer 22:36 here... OK... this morning. Another thing that can be done: 22:38 steady, excellent nutrition. Another thing: action is the law 22:44 of the being from a classic called Ministry of Healing 22:48 on 37. So if the child, if the person is active and busy 22:53 this will really help the frontal lobe. 22:56 Another thing is real problem solving for the family, 22:59 for the community, will build up the brain. 23:01 OK. And how soon can this start? Two years old? Three years old? 23:05 Four years old? Five years old? Yes. 23:07 Eleven years old? It can start out before you are born 23:08 OK. and goes right on through. 23:10 Another thing is balanced education. 23:12 Unless you have harmonious development of the front of the 23:16 brain for inspiration, the back of the brain for information, 23:20 and the bottom of the brain for motivation action, 23:24 you don't have a good brain. OK. So, inspiration, 23:27 motivation, and what was that again? Action! 23:30 Action. What about music? You hear a lot today about the 23:33 Mozart effect and listening to this type of music 23:35 and that supposedly helps your brain. Is that true or false? 23:39 It's just... sure, it's true. It's just like David and Saul. 23:42 Good music calms the violent tendencies of a person. 23:48 Um-hmm. It unites; it smoothes down the rough edges and 23:53 it brings peace and beauty to the mind instead of confusion. 23:57 Let's say I've been involved in drugs, I've listened to, 23:59 you know, music that perhaps is not the best for my mind 24:02 and I'm wanting to get started back again. I'm a young adult, 24:05 and I want to do something different. 24:07 What would you say to that individual? 24:10 In what sector? In what area? 24:13 Well. They need to get on a program: OK. 24:15 Twenty-four hours a day of positive living 24:18 instead of negative living. All right, so... The abundant life 24:22 is participatory. Um-hmm. So when God's grace is a friend 24:27 and when we cooperate with heaven, then the brain blossoms 24:31 like a garden in the Spring and Summer. 24:35 OK. So in other words, get them on a program. What would be 24:37 the program? What would they do? What kind of music would they 24:39 listen to? What would they read? What would they eat? 24:41 The day starts at night, just like Genesis. 24:45 They need to go to bed at night. They need superb, delta-wave 24:48 sleep by 10 o'clock every night. No. 2: they need to get up 24:52 in the morning, take them a good hot and cold shower, and get 24:57 a real dose of the finest software in the world. 25:01 Namely: the Bible - right there. Is that right? 25:05 Best software in the world for the frontal lobe and for the 25:07 whole brain. Then they need to get a real breakfast. 25:10 The best nutrition in a donut is the hole in the center. 25:14 What about exercise? Of course, exercise and good work. 25:19 As a matter of fact, serious motivated work will build up 25:24 the strength of the will. Located right under my second 25:27 finger. And this is one reason why fishermen were chosen 25:32 by the Great Physician to be His leaders instead of the big shots 25:38 in Jerusalem. Why is that? Explain that... 25:40 Because they were workers instead of hair splitters. 25:43 I see. Now, you know, during the break you and I were talking 25:47 and you said it's actually possible to erase 25:51 bad connections that have been made in the brain. 25:53 Yes. Tell me about that. 25:54 New brain research shows that a special enzymatic process 25:58 called apoptosis can completely erase a bad synapse 26:03 forever. How long does it take? 26:06 Just a few hours. It's gone forever. 26:08 Well, how many synapses are involved in say a bad habit? 26:11 Unknown... but this could be thousands. 26:14 And so... but... but... many of these synapses, you see, 26:19 when the will chooses God can perform a miracle 26:25 in the brain when we choose to cooperate with Him. 26:27 OK, now, you know, the Bible says that He wills to do 26:32 His good pleasure in us. Exactly. What's the... quickly 26:36 as we end here, yes, what's the difference between our will 26:39 and His will and how do we get them working together? 26:41 Oh, by total cooperation. We give ourselves to Him 26:46 and He gives Himself to us. Philippians 2: we work out 26:51 what He works in. OK. And that combination is a winner! 26:57 Doctor, any other parting words that you can say about the 27:00 frontal lobe? Let's just say you are talking just to families, 27:03 pastors, teachers, doctors, or whoever and you are saying 27:07 I want you to hear this one thing. It's very simple! 27:10 Galatians 6:7. "God is not mocked, be not deceived. 27:14 Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. " 27:19 This will work! How positive to hear that. 27:23 This will work, or maybe, He can work in us to will and do 27:27 His good pleasure. We have been talking with 27:29 Dr. Bernell Baldwin. We have discovered that from a brain 27:34 scientist's perspective there is hope and there's good news 27:37 for the brain. There are some things that we should avoid. 27:39 If you've just tuned in, I would recommend that you get in touch 27:42 with 3ABN and say, hey, when is this going to air again. 27:45 You'll learn some important lessons. 27:46 Doesn't matter whatever you do in life. And I know that as a 27:50 result of this program, your relationship with the Lord 27:53 and with other people will be strengthened, 27:55 and you'll have health that lasts for a lifetime. |
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