Hello and welcome to
"Health for a Lifetime"
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I'm your host Don Macintosh
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and we're delighted
today to have Dr. Glen Wiltse
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with us from South Dakota.
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He has practiced there
many years as a physician
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and also is a consultant for the
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Black Hills Health
and Education Center
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Today, Dr. Wiltse, we're
going to be talking about a very
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interesting subject
that is heart disease...
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How to have healthy hearts!
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And you know, the
master physician said,
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"I have come that
they might have life,
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and have it more abundantly!"
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Let me ask you a
question, doctor...
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Do people live as abundantly or
as long as they really should?
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They really don't.
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Research has shown us that
today, 70-80% of the people
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who have cancer, could have
been prevented from having the
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cancer by merely following
a different lifestyle than
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they had been following.
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Almost 100% of the heart
deaths could have been prevented
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by a different lifestyle.
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In fact, there was a
doctor from Harvard University,
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in charge of a health study
at Framingham, Massachusetts
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and he made this
statement that...
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"Heart disease is a preventable
disease, and practically no one
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really needs to
die of heart disease. "
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We all have to
die sooner or later...
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but that death could be
put off or postponed from
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from 3-12 years depending on
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the lifestyle that
you're already following.
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If you've been on a real bad
lifestyle, by making changes,
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statistics show us that
a person's death could be
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postponed for at least 12 years
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just by making some
changes in our lifestyle.
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So what we eat, what
we drink, whatever we do,
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if we looked at
those types of things,
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we could prevent
most causes of death.
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That's exactly right.
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In fact, if we analyze
the real causes of death,
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we find that about almost
90%... between 80-90% of them
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are related to
lifestyle, and the changes
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in our lifestyle could
prevent those things like diet,
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smoking, the use of
alcohol, exposure to sunlight,
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the occupation that we
choose which could be changed...
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There are few
things, air pollution;
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individually, we
can't do much about that,
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but as a population,
something can be done
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about that as well.
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Food additives... we can choose,
learn to be label-readers,
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and choose the foods
that don't have the additives
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that we know are harmful.
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So we're talking about
choice, we're talking about
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that frontal lobe of our brain,
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using it and
making the right choices.
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What are the leading causes
of death, say.. here in America?
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Well I guess most everybody
knows that heart disease
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is the #1 cause of
death in America today.
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About 50% of the
people in America who die,
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and we all die sooner or later,
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die of heart disease.
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The various estimates
have been made anywhere from
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500,000 to 700,000 people
die of heart disease every year.
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Cancer is the next most common,
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about 500,000 people
die of that each year...
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And following that, we
have things like strokes,
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around 150,000 people
die of that each year.
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And on down to lesser
things like emphysema which is
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definitely related to smoking;
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about 85,000 people
die of that each year.
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Diabetes,
around almost 50,000...
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And a lot of these are
diseases that something could be
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done about either
preventing or delaying.
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At the Black Hills
Center, we've had an interesting
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experience, for
instance with diabetes...
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We've had diabetics
come there taking insulin,
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taking diabetic tablets... by
getting on an exercise program,
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starting on a change
in their dietary pattern,
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and on to natural foods.
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These people were able
to leave there, many times,
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completely off
medication, or at least
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the medication
markedly reduced...
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And by continuing this lifestyle
their life is going to be
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greatly prolonged.
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So they could just
turn things around.
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You know, we're talking more
specifically, I think today,
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about heart disease;
what's really happening there?
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What's really going
on with heart disease?
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Well in heart disease, in
our country, in America alone
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there are
around a million people
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who have a heart
attack every year.
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And about half of those people
that have that heart attack,
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will end up dying from it.
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And contrary to the
previously held opinion,
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almost half of those are women.
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We used to think that
heart disease was primarily
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a disease of men,
but women are afflicted
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with heart disease
almost as commonly as men.
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It comes on a little
later in life due to their
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hormone balance, but it
does hit them sooner or later
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And hypertension... high
blood pressure is another one.
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There are about 40 million
people with high blood pressure
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in America today, and
this is a MAJOR problem.
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A third of the
people who have hypertension
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don't even
realize that they have it.
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Silent killer!
It's the silent killer.
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Half of those who know
they have it are on treatment.
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But about a third of
those who are on treatment
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don't follow their treatment
program properly in taking their
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medications and the lifestyle
that they should follow.
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So we really need
to do something about
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some of these things.
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The costs are another item too.
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The cost for healthcare
for these people who are
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afflicted by these
diseases that come as a result
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of our aberrant lifestyle
are really breaking our
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healthcare budget to bits.
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And especially probably now
that a large balloon of people,
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the baby boomers, are nearing
those ages, I would imagine...
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That's exactly right...
You know, there are a lot of
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people giving some serious
study to our healthcare problem
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and how we are going to be able
to afford to give appropriate
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healthcare to the
people in our country
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as the years go
along, and as we get older,
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and more people are
afflicted with these diseases.
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Well what about
heart disease specifically,
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why are we in the mess
that we're in with that?
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What really is happening?
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You know, we hear
about sudden heart attacks,
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is there any such thing
as a sudden heart attack?
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Actually, there isn't.
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There was a doctor from
Mount Sinai Medical Center
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who made the statement
that there's no such thing
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as a sudden heart attack.
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It takes years to develop it.
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The event... The
terminal event is sudden.
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But the preparation
for that has been going on
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for a long time beforehand.
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We might just look at
risk factors for a little bit,
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and see what it is that really
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causes people to
develop heart disease.
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The Heart Association
has developed what they call
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4 MAJOR risk factors,
and all of those are in the
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left-hand column on the
slide here are preventable...
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something can
be done about them.
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They include elevated
cholesterol, high blood pressure
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smoking and lack of exercise.
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These are the 4 major things.
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In addition to that, there's
stress, diabetes and obesity.
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There are some things
that cause heart attack that we
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can't do anything about.
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BUT, we have found that
if a person will follow a
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good lifestyle and CONTROL the
factors which are controllable,
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it will go a long ways
toward counteracting these
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non-treatable factors
such as heredity and age,
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and gender, and the fact
that the person has had a
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heart attack before,
before he learned how to
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live a better life.
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If you had to pick one of
those... elevated cholesterol,
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hypertension, tobacco, lack of
exercise, you mentioned those;
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you know, and you
were doing ALL those...
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You said, "Well, I'm
doing all those wrong"
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Which one would you
pick first to change?
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Well it would be a little
hard to pick #1, but actually
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the use of
cigarettes is probably the #1,
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maybe cholesterol would
vie with it for first place...
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But those would be the
2 most important of those.
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Lack of exercise is important,
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elevated
cholesterol is important,
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high blood
pressure is important.
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You can't change your age.
You can't change your gender.
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You can't change
those types of things,
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but you can make a
decision about these others.
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You certainly can, and I
think we should do that...
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We owe it to
ourselves, each one of us
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owes it to
ourselves, and to our families
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to do something about it.
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Not only to
ourselves and our families,
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but to society in general.
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So underlying...
You said that there is
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no such thing as a
sudden heart attack.
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There are things that are
underlying that maybe we could
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deal with that
we're not dealing with.
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What are some of those things,
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more specifically,
that we're not dealing with?
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I mean it doesn't
knock on our doors.
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It's not saying...
"Take care of me today"
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What are some of the things
that we need to just really
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be thinking about?
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Well why don't we
zero in on hypertension,
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high blood pressure. Okay
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This is one of the
things that is so common.
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As I said, there are
about 40 million hypertensives
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in America today, and we
need to do something about that.
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Hypertension not
only causes heart attack;
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not only is it one
of its complications,
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but there are other
things that occur as a result.
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Kidney failure.
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And that's not good;
that's not fun at all, is it?
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That's a very serious thing.
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Strokes are another
thing that occurs very commonly
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with hypertension, that
their blood pressure is so high
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in the brain that it
blows out a blood vessel,
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and you have a
hemorrhage in the brain,
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the person has a stroke...
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and, of course, we know
how devastating this is.
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And a thrombotic stroke,
one that's caused by a clot,
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can be treated today.
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There are
clot-dissolving medications,
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but the hemorrhage, we don't
have any treatment for that.
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Once that blood is flowing
freely in the brain, it's there!
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Then in addition to
that, there's the eye damage
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that comes as a result
of the high blood pressure.
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Retinal damage, so that
persons lose their eyesight.
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And a thing that I failed
to put on the slide here is
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also congestive heart failure...
another thing that occurs,
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and when it occurs, it usually
occurs as an acute situation.
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And I can recall
seeing patients in my practice
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who had this, and it's serious
and many times, untreatable.
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uncurable.
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How can we prevent
these types of things?
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There are a number of
things that a person can do
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to keep from
getting hypertension.
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You cannot prevent
EVERY case, but by-and-large,
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hypertension is a
preventable disease.
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A low salt diet has been
a traditional therapy for
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probably 40 years, at
least, when I was in even
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medical school...
longer ago than that,
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that was taught as one of
the things that we should do.
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#2... Of course, we all
should have an ideal weight,
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and hypertension is usually
helped if a person is overweight
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by losing weight; although
slender people do sometimes
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have high blood pressure.
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But if a person is overweight,
and loses, it will help.
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Non-use of tobacco
in any form is helpful.
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Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor,
it causes constriction of the
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blood vessels and
elevation of pressure.
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Alcohol,
strangely enough, is also...
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even though it's taken by
some people as a sedative,
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it actually is associated
with high blood pressure,
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and increases the risk.
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Exercise, even though
when a person is exercising,
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his pressure is higher,
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the effect upon the circulation,
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the effect upon the
blood vessels tends to be
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lowering of the blood
pressure, so that's effective.
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Another thing we should do...
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All of us should get an
adequate amount of exercise,
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20-30 minutes a day.
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In addition to that, a diet.
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A diet that's rich in grains,
fruits, nuts and vegetables...
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Avoiding foods that have
been processed by an animal,
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and you're
eating them secondhand.
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All of these things can
help and prevent hypertension.
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So really, we
talked about hypertension,
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we talked about this because
it's an underlying cause,
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or a silent cause for many
people... of heart disease.
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What really
causes heart dis-EASE?
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Okay, the basic
problem here is an elevation of
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blood cholesterol with
precipitation of the cholesterol
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into the arteries of the heart,
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and of all the arteries in the
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body, in fact,
not just the heart.
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Cholesterol is
the basic ingredient,
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then are some other substances,
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calcium and
fibrin, and platelets...
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And that all goes in to
the arteries of the heart.
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That's right, and the other
vessels in the body as well.
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The brain, the
kidneys, the peripheral vessels,
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all of these are
affected by atherosclerosis,
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but the ones in the
heart cause the heart attack.
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There's an interesting story
that helps us to have insight
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as to what can
happen to a group of people.
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There's a little island in the
South Pacific called "Nauru,"
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about 7,000 or 8,000 population;
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for years they
lived a primitive culture,
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but they found that it
was a rich source of phosphate
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fertilizer deposited there by
birds on their migration flights
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over a period of centuries.
Someone else discovered that.
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And the Nauruans then found
that there was a market for this
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and they started selling;
these people became affluent.
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They started importing
things from you-know-where.
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They got fast-food restaurants.
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They got this, They got that!
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And before long, their
heart attack rate which had been
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practically nil, when
they were on the native
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homegrown foods,
skyrocketed until it was
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even worse than it
is in the United States.
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I think it's just an
example of what can happen...
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It's not the people, it's
what we put into ourselves.
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It's our lifestyle that really
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causes the heart
attack that we have.
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So, you know, I've heard
that story in many places,
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not just Nauru which I hadn't
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heard of before I
talked with you...
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But other places
around the world, Australia.
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Just recently I was in Romania,
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and they just LOVED
things from the Western diet.
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Really a problem as it
leads to that building block
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of heart disease.
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We've been talking
with Dr. Glen Wiltse
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from South Dakota.
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He's a physician.
He's a health educator.
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We've been talking
about heart disease.
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We've been talking
about what causes it;
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the underlying
problems... hypertension.
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We've found out that
many of the things that we do,
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many of the ways we
live directly lead to
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heart disease, heart attacks.
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There's no such thing
as a sudden heart attack.
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When we come back, we want
to see how we can AVOID this.
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Welcome back, we've been
talking with Dr. Glen Wiltse.
00:15:35.85\00:15:38.54
We've been talking
about heart disease.
00:15:38.57\00:15:40.40
We've been talking
about what causes it.
00:15:40.41\00:15:42.99
We've been talking about
what we can do to prevent it.
00:15:43.02\00:15:46.25
And in this segment, we're going
00:15:46.26\00:15:47.97
to talk a little
bit more about that.
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Doctor, you were sharing some
interesting research with me
00:15:49.41\00:15:53.44
about heart disease.
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There are a lot of epidemiologic
studies been done to
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help us gather information.
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Epidemiologic studies
is one in which they study
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an entire group of people;
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find out what
diseases they have,
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what they die of, what
age they die of, and so forth.
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The first
researcher on this was actually
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Dr. Ancel Keys, of the
University of Minnesota.
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That's probably been 40
or 50 years ago that he began
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studying different
populations in different
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parts of the world,
and found that there was
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a relationship between
lifestyle and a number of
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different diseases.
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And since that time, of course,
we've had a large study in China
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The Chinese people
make an ideal study group
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because they don't tend to move
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around over the
country as much as we do.
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They can take a group
of people in a community,
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and they'll stay there.
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The same people will be there
year, after year, after year.
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And then there's
the Framingham Study
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that was done in Boston
under Harvard University
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with Dr. William Castelli.
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They got a tremendous
amount of information there,
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and then the MRFIT
Study was another large study.
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A study of the Japanese people
has also been very interesting
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because the Japanese
tend to be rather homogeneous,
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and maintain a
consistent lifestyle...
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and they've also, a lot of
them move from their country
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to Hawaii and then
over to the United States,
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and to notice the changes
in the diseases that they have
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from the home
country, to Hawaii,
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and then to the United States,
has been very interesting.
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And we find that as far as
heart disease is concerned,
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there is a tremendous increase
when they move to America
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and begin to adopt
the American lifestyle.
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So they don't have the heart
disease in their countries,
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in China and Japan, and
these places like we do here.
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Japan has about
one-ninth of the heart disease
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that we have in America,
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and their diet
contains only about one-fifth
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of the cholesterol that
people in America tend to eat.
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Another interesting thing about
it that's come out of these
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studies is that atherosclerosis,
hardening of the arteries,
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the underlying
problem of heart disease,
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actually begins in childhood.
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And this was first
really brought to the forefront
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during the Korean, and then
during the Vietnamese conflict;
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when they did autopsies on
our servicemen, a young fellow
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from 18-25 years of age.
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They found out that they
already had the early signs,
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and the early
changes of atherosclerosis...
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Whereas their counterparts,
the Korean young people,
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and the Vietnamese young men;
00:18:04.02\00:18:05.50
they did autopsies on them after
they had died from accident,
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or from gunshot, and
they found their arteries
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were perfectly clean.
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Well, tell me
exactly what happens...
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I worked with one of these
men that actually was doing
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those autopsies once.
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He worked with me in a hospital
I worked in, and he said,
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they would cut open that
artery and they would look at it
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Explain to us what does
really happen in those arteries.
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Okay, well I think we'll
introduce a couple of pictures
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here that will show some
research work that was done
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in the University of Oregon.
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The picture on the right...
correction, the one on the left
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shows a normal situation;
whereas the red blood cells
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are coming along the capillary,
and they're flowing real nicely.
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There's a distance between
them and they're just kind of...
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And when they come
to that junction there,
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and have to go
one way or the other,
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those capillaries are
so small that the red cells
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HAVE to go through single file.
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This doctor in
Oregon took these...
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this was on
hamsters, laboratory animals;
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they gave them a meal of cream,
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and then they
looked at their red cells,
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and the way they
flowed afterwards,
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and that's in the picture on
the right side of our screen.
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The one of the left is no cream,
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and the one on the
right is with cream... Right
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And so we can see
what has happened.
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The red cells
have become sticky.
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This cream has made them so
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that they're just like
they have glue on them.
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They come up to the
bifurcation in the capillary
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where they have to
go through single file,
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and they can't make
it because they're all
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stuck together.
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And if that capillary
happened to be taking blood to
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the cartilage of
your knee, for instance,
00:19:30.36\00:19:31.90
or to the muscle of your heart,
00:19:31.93\00:19:33.77
it's just not getting the
circulation that it should have.
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So is this a clot?
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It actually is not a
clot because it does dissolve
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as the fat is absorbed
and taken out of the vessel.
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An interesting thing though,
00:19:46.44\00:19:48.28
that this work was followed
up by a doctor in San Francisco
00:19:48.31\00:19:51.18
who did this same type of
experiment on human beings
00:19:51.21\00:19:54.76
in which they
looked at the capillaries
00:19:54.79\00:19:56.29
back in the back of the eye.
00:19:56.32\00:19:57.76
They found out that no
matter what kind of fatty meal
00:19:57.79\00:20:00.14
they gave... it
could be corn oil,
00:20:00.15\00:20:01.42
it could be cream, it could
be lard, it could be butter,
00:20:01.45\00:20:03.70
no matter what
type of fat it was,
00:20:03.73\00:20:06.04
any refined fat...
that caused the capillaries
00:20:06.07\00:20:09.12
to be obstructed by these red
blood cells that stuck together
00:20:09.15\00:20:12.63
So it can even be "healthy" fat.
00:20:13.58\00:20:16.02
Right! That's exactly right.
00:20:16.05\00:20:17.35
So, the conclusion that we get
out of this is that we should
00:20:17.38\00:20:20.78
avoid refined
fats in our diet...
00:20:20.81\00:20:23.39
And even so-called "good
fats" can be harmful to us,
00:20:23.42\00:20:25.86
especially when used
in too large a quantity,
00:20:25.89\00:20:28.58
and it's hard to
know exactly how much
00:20:28.61\00:20:30.63
too large a quantity really is.
00:20:30.66\00:20:32.53
So probably the best thing is
just to eat the sunflower seeds,
00:20:32.56\00:20:35.46
eat the corn, eat the soybean,
00:20:35.49\00:20:38.68
but NOT to use
the refined product.
00:20:38.71\00:20:42.35
So once you have this
problem, atherosclerosis,
00:20:42.38\00:20:47.09
can you treat it?
Can it be reversed?
00:20:47.12\00:20:50.96
You really can!
There have been a number of
00:20:50.99\00:20:52.86
researchers that have
demonstrated, definitely,
00:20:52.89\00:20:55.42
that it can be reversed.
00:20:55.45\00:20:56.99
One of the first ones of
these that was done on animals
00:20:57.02\00:21:01.93
initially by a
couple of doctors,
00:21:01.96\00:21:03.48
Dr.
Vesselinovitch and Dr. Wissler,
00:21:03.51\00:21:06.80
and they showed on
animals, that they fed them a
00:21:06.83\00:21:09.19
high fat diet, and
then they put them on a
00:21:09.22\00:21:11.71
so-called "good diet,"
we call it a good diet,
00:21:11.72\00:21:14.79
that the atherosclerosis
that developed as a result of
00:21:14.82\00:21:18.41
the bad diet, actually was
healed up; it was reversed.
00:21:18.44\00:21:20.98
So atherosclerosis
IS a reversible disease.
00:21:21.95\00:21:24.99
And there have been
others that have demonstrated
00:21:25.02\00:21:27.17
this as well.
00:21:27.20\00:21:29.24
One of the most recent
one of these was done by
00:21:29.25\00:21:32.12
Dr. Dean Ornish, who was
a Professor of Cardiology at
00:21:32.15\00:21:35.38
the University of
California in San Francisco.
00:21:35.41\00:21:38.95
And he put his people,
people who had atherosclerosis;
00:21:38.98\00:21:43.80
they had had angiograms
where they take the x-rays
00:21:43.83\00:21:46.52
of the arteries of the heart.
00:21:46.53\00:21:47.95
Put that dye in there, and then
they look at it on the x-ray.
00:21:47.98\00:21:52.32
And they show the
narrowing of the vessels.
00:21:52.35\00:21:55.87
He took a group of
these people and half of them,
00:21:55.90\00:21:58.33
he put on a diet that we
would consider a good diet.
00:21:58.36\00:22:02.20
It was a diet that about 10%
of the calories were from fat.
00:22:02.23\00:22:05.45
It had a lot of complex
unrefined carbohydrates.
00:22:05.48\00:22:09.13
It had no simple
sugars, no caffeine.
00:22:09.16\00:22:12.37
These people were also
put on a program of exercise,
00:22:12.40\00:22:15.44
and they had
stress-control programs,
00:22:15.47\00:22:18.01
group therapy, and so forth.
00:22:18.04\00:22:19.39
And, what happened is
extremely interesting.
00:22:19.42\00:22:22.40
At the end of 1
year on this program,
00:22:22.43\00:22:25.43
we found that the
artery stenosis they had,
00:22:25.46\00:22:29.20
which is the
narrowing; those narrow spots,
00:22:29.23\00:22:31.99
that the people
who were on this diet,
00:22:32.02\00:22:33.78
their narrowing
had decreased by 4%...
00:22:33.81\00:22:36.25
Whereas the other half of
the people who were on the
00:22:36.26\00:22:38.59
American Heart
Association heart diet,
00:22:38.62\00:22:40.94
theirs had
actually gone up almost 3%.
00:22:40.97\00:22:44.09
So there's
something beyond what the
00:22:44.12\00:22:45.57
American Heart
Association is saying.
00:22:45.60\00:22:47.35
You really need a lower
fat diet than what they had...
00:22:47.36\00:22:50.02
Especially if they
had these problems!
00:22:50.03\00:22:51.63
That's exactly right!
00:22:51.66\00:22:53.00
The angina
decreased 91%. What's angina?
00:22:53.03\00:22:56.05
That's chest pain
that comes as a result of
00:22:56.08\00:22:58.59
poor circulation of the heart.
00:22:58.62\00:22:59.77
The heart not
getting enough supply...
00:22:59.78\00:23:01.48
So 91% of them no
longer had the chest pain.
00:23:01.51\00:23:03.94
That's exactly right! Amazing!
00:23:03.97\00:23:05.45
And the ones that
were on the control diet,
00:23:05.48\00:23:09.15
theirs became worse.
00:23:09.18\00:23:11.86
Also, their LDL,
the bad cholesterol,
00:23:11.89\00:23:13.99
went down on the diet
that we call a good diet,
00:23:14.02\00:23:19.31
the ones that were on
the control, theirs went up.
00:23:19.34\00:23:21.81
So LDL, that's BAD
cholesterol. That's "lousy"
00:23:21.84\00:23:25.50
That's right.
"L" stands for lousy.
00:23:25.51\00:23:28.10
That's right...
and so it went down.
00:23:28.13\00:23:30.32
So this was an
interesting thing.
00:23:30.35\00:23:33.34
So this is really
showing that you cannot only
00:23:33.37\00:23:37.79
address the problem and stop it,
00:23:37.82\00:23:39.48
you can even
REVERSE it! Exactly right
00:23:39.51\00:23:42.35
An interesting is
that just a few months ago,
00:23:42.38\00:23:45.69
in the "Journal of the
American Medical Association"
00:23:45.72\00:23:48.05
I read the report
of a 5-year follow-up.
00:23:48.08\00:23:50.92
The first statistics I
gave there were at 1 year.
00:23:50.95\00:23:54.60
At the end of 5 years,
the results were even better.
00:23:54.63\00:23:57.36
There was even less angina,
00:23:57.39\00:23:59.50
and some of the people
who were on the control group,
00:23:59.53\00:24:02.08
the ones who were on
the Heart Association diet,
00:24:02.09\00:24:04.29
actually became so
bad that they had to take
00:24:04.32\00:24:06.75
them out of the
study completely.
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Several of them
had heart attacks,
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and some of them were also
put on lipid-lowering drugs
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that the Heart Association
diet was not going to...
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So after 5 years, we're
seeing here that the narrowing
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went down, what
does it say... 7?
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Yes, the narrowing
went down almost 8%
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And the angina,
chest pain, went down 72%.
00:24:27.80\00:24:32.16
Their LDL, the "lousy
cholesterol went down 20%
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And their
cholesterol was down 62%
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This was over a 5-year period.
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I guess the important
thing about this to me is
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some people will say,
"Well I could never change,
00:24:42.73\00:24:45.08
and I never could
stick with this. "
00:24:45.11\00:24:46.48
This is saying that
people not only change for a
00:24:46.51\00:24:48.51
momentary program,
but they stick with it.
00:24:48.54\00:24:50.87
They did stay with it.
00:24:50.91\00:24:52.09
It takes some will power.
00:24:52.12\00:24:53.27
It takes some dedication.
00:24:53.30\00:24:54.33
It takes some commitment.
00:24:54.36\00:24:55.55
But these
people who did do that,
00:24:55.58\00:24:57.30
found that it was
worthwhile for them.
00:24:57.33\00:25:01.23
So atherosclerosis
IS a reversible disease.
00:25:01.26\00:25:07.60
I might just quote the
summary from Dr. Ornish's study
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that he did in
the article in the
00:25:12.33\00:25:13.60
"Journal of the American Medical
Association" last December.
00:25:13.64\00:25:16.16
He said, I'm quoting...
"Experimental patients
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showed even more regression
of the coronary atherosclerosis
00:25:19.37\00:25:22.56
after 5 years, than 1 year. "
00:25:22.59\00:25:24.00
In other words, they got better.
00:25:24.03\00:25:25.29
"In contrast, patients following
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a more conventional
lifestyle recommendation
00:25:27.19\00:25:28.66
showed even MORE progression
of the coronary atherosclerosis
00:25:28.69\00:25:32.50
after 5 years than
after 1, and had more than
00:25:32.53\00:25:36.12
twice as many cardiac events. "
00:25:36.15\00:25:38.01
In other words, they were having
more angina, more heart attacks,
00:25:38.04\00:25:40.38
more cardiac surgery.
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So that the program that with
the refined diet, made it worse.
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That's right. But
with the simple diet,
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and those things, we
can reverse it. That's right
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Do you have any advice for us
00:25:51.94\00:25:53.27
as we're closing out the
program, we have 2 minutes left.
00:25:53.31\00:25:56.81
People are saying,
"Well what can I do?"
00:25:56.84\00:25:58.22
How can I start on this journey
of REVERSING heart disease?
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Okay, well we have
one more graphic that we
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can do real quickly, I
think, from Dr. Castelli,
00:26:04.68\00:26:06.67
from the Harvard
Framingham Study in Boston...
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He makes the statement
that atherosclerosis is
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100% reversible if we maintain
a cholesterol level of 150
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and 60% reversible at a
cholesterol level of 170.
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Now, these are
certainly attainable.
00:26:21.43\00:26:23.23
It takes some judicious effort,
but it certainly can be done.
00:26:23.26\00:26:26.04
And so how do we attain it?
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And so we attain that by
starting to eat a diet that's
00:26:27.12\00:26:30.61
heavy in UNREFINED foods;
00:26:30.64\00:26:32.84
grains, fruits,
nuts and vegetables
00:26:32.87\00:26:35.64
in their unrefined state.
00:26:35.65\00:26:37.10
Don't add excitotoxins to them.
00:26:37.13\00:26:40.24
Don't add a lot of fat to them.
00:26:40.27\00:26:41.66
Don't add sugar to them.
00:26:41.69\00:26:42.78
Just use them in the way that
00:26:42.81\00:26:45.30
the Lord caused
them to grow for us.
00:26:45.33\00:26:47.20
We can prevent the
heart disease if we will
00:26:47.23\00:26:50.79
...we will go ahead and
leave this slide on here
00:26:50.82\00:26:52.88
and just real
briefly go over it.
00:26:52.91\00:26:54.70
Low salt diet, maintain an
ideal weight, avoid tobacco,
00:26:54.73\00:26:58.47
get a regular exercise
program 30 minutes a day,
00:26:58.50\00:27:01.38
and then eat that
diet that I mentioned...
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a diet low in refined products,
or avoiding refined products,
00:27:03.84\00:27:07.95
grains, fruits, nuts and
vegetables in the way that
00:27:07.98\00:27:10.86
they grew, the way the Lord
designed them for us to eat.
00:27:10.89\00:27:13.59
So research is showing
us what we've probably had a
00:27:13.62\00:27:17.49
sneaking suspicion all along...
00:27:17.52\00:27:19.24
That our mothers were right
about saying eat our fruits
00:27:19.27\00:27:21.55
and vegetables,
but more than that,
00:27:21.58\00:27:23.03
that the Master Physician
was right when He said,
00:27:23.06\00:27:25.38
"Hey, fruits, nuts, and grains"
00:27:25.41\00:27:28.06
We have about 30 seconds.
00:27:28.09\00:27:29.60
I want you to take
15 of that and say...
00:27:29.63\00:27:31.55
Is there anything we
really should bypass?
00:27:31.58\00:27:33.57
We should bypass the
refrigerator, bypass McDonald's,
00:27:33.60\00:27:37.01
bypass Pizza Hut, bypass Wendy's
bypass the local greasy spoon.
00:27:37.04\00:27:42.42
Leave those things alone.
00:27:42.45\00:27:43.56
Go out to your
garden and get your food!
00:27:43.59\00:27:45.38
We've been talking
with Dr. Glen Wiltse
00:27:45.41\00:27:49.08
from South Dakota
where he works with the
00:27:49.09\00:27:51.36
Black Hills Health
and Education Center,
00:27:51.39\00:27:54.51
and we hope that as a
result of this program,
00:27:54.54\00:27:56.81
you will avoid heart
disease, heart attacks,
00:27:56.84\00:27:58.97
and have health that
lasts for a lifetime!
00:27:59.00\00:28:01.10