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Hello and welcome to
'Health for a Lifetime'.
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Today joining us in the
studio is Dr. Clarence Ing
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from Weimar
institute in California.
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I'm Don MacIntosh and
today we are going to be
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talking about a very
interesting and important
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subject that is food
born illnesses and really,
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what's another way
of saying that Dr. Ing.
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Well food born
diseases are diseases that may
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be caused by you eating
different types of food.
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Particularly today
we're gonna be talking about
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diseases that are
increased or increase your risk
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of it if you eat animal,
what we call animal foods.
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You know like meat,
fish, chicken anything
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which comes from an
animal and that may even include
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eggs and dairy products,
there are risks involved.
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Well those of you who
are may be not familiar
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with Weimar
institute; it is an institute in
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California which I
think just recently was
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the responsible
committee on medicine gave you
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a higher rating for your
weight loss program, right.
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Physicians committed
for responsible medicines
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said that we are the number two
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weight loss program
in the United States.
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It's exciting to know that
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we can help people
lose weight and that
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other people are
recognizing this.
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And for this we
are very grateful.
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But it's pretty neat to
see how when people come in,
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they change their
lifestyle and we tell
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them you know you
are not going on a diet
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because people
say if I going to diet
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I can get off the diet but say,
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we are making
changes for a lifetime.
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Well speaking of
changes for a lifetime
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what are some
things that we should be
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concerned about in
terms of the things we eat,
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you mentioned
cows, chickens and fish.
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Well as we look at
cows it's been interesting
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to note that in the
last few years we found
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significantly more problems
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then we
realized before the cows.
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Something that's
been in the news for the
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last couple of years is
mad cow disease or if you
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want a medical term Bovine
Spongiform Encephalopathy.
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Now this is a very
interesting disease
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which is now recognized and we
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see this and
we're begin to see the
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problems in human
beings and this was
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first became
apparent in England and this
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was discovered in
1996 initially they found
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the disease in
animals mad cow disease in
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animals in 1986, it
was discovered in animals.
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And at that time
they thought that if it
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affects the cows, that's fine.
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Well if it isn't
fine but at least that
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doesn't involve human beings.
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You know that
humans could eat the cows
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and there was no
concern that humans
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would become sick
with this type of problem.
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So in 1996 so things
have changed at that time
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they said you know
there may be a link
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between mad cow
disease and what were
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we find in humans
its called A New Variant
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of something called
Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease,
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the disease which has
been around for quite a time.
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Creutzfeldt-Jakob
Disease is one of a family of
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diseases called
the transmissible
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Spongiform Encephalopathies.
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It's similar to
that now these diseases
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are also found in other animals.
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We find that in
animals they affect not only
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cattle they've had a
similar disease in sheep
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it's called Scrapie, they found
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this disease in
mink which have eaten.
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Say sheep that have
been that have died from
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Scrapie and it's
also been found in other
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animals that
have eaten something
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we call Animal By-Product.
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I know in your note here
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that you said this
also in cats. Right.
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Should we have cats in
our homes? Well, there again
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that's a cat eat in
the animal by-product.
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If you go by the
supermarket or wherever
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you buy a pet food
and read the label on your
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pet foods it was
interesting we did this
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the other day and the
significant number of the
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pet foods have something
called Animal By-Product.
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Where does animal
by-product come from?
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Animal by-product comes from
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what we call the
rendering plants.
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Rendering plants
are the plants that take
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through means of
the cattle, road kill,
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road kill other
animals that have been
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put to sleep, you know
because no one wants to
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claim them from pounds
and all of these are then
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sent to the rendering
plant and they are process
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and they become
made protein meal
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which is then use
to, put in the food, yeah
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it's sold to the
pet food producers,
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it sold to other
people who wanted
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enrich the food
of their animals.
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So what it would
be say to say then
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if you are going to
having animal, having animal
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that doesn't eat
other animal for lunch.
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Right. And then
protect yourself from that.
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Tell me little bit
about how this BSE that's
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mad cow disease actually work,
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what does it do in
the body once it is fatal,
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what happens if you
contract that disease?
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Okay well let's go back
to Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease.
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Normally we find
this in about one person
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in a million people
in a average population.
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And this usually
affects only older people.
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But what has happened
in the United Kingdom,
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they have found
that younger people were
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getting a disease
which is similar to
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Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease
and so they call it a new
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variant or the new form
of Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease.
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And they have related this
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then to the mad cow diseases.
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The thing is what
produces the infection or the
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particle that produces
infection is called Prion.
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And Prions are
interesting they are
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protein particles,
it's not like a virus,
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it's not like a
bacteria. But one makes it some,
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makes this fearful of
this is if you were normally
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use the temperature
which you can sterilize
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something like 212
degrees Fahrenheit,
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a 100 degrees
Celsius, the particle is still
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infectious in fact they
raise to the temperature
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of the 680
degrees Fahrenheit. Wow!
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and this is where things
would normally become ash
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and it was still
possible to cause an infection.
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You can treat with formalin,
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you can treat it with alcohol,
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gamma radiation and it can
still produce an infection.
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So any of these things
they've been talking about
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recently in the
news like increasing
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radiation of meat
or different things
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before it goes on the market.
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Are not gonna touch a prion
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in other words
it's gonna be path
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regardless of
what you are doing.
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Right, it's gonna go
through and still has the
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potential for causing
an affection if it has,
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you know if it is
infective worth of BSE.
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So is there any place
that you know for someone
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who wants to eat
beef, should there,
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should we will be eating that?
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Well I think that
if you really wanna be
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safe and don't wanna
have any risk for those
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types of problems or diseases,
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I think it's
really best avoid beef
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actually any fish
and chicken as well.
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Because, you know if
you want what's really best
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your best diet of course
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comes back to a
plant based diet.
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Let me ask another
question that I don't know
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whether or not we've
touched on, what exactly
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does this Creu or you know,
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Creutzfeldt-Jakob
Disease, Mad Cow disease
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the human variant,
what does it actually do,
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what if you contract
that what happens to you?
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Well one thing we know
is it's universally failed,
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there is no known cure.
And what happens initially
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some of the earliest
symptoms are first you
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would have memory loss
and there is confusion,
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strange behavior,
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and there is
difficulty in walking,
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finally the person
is unable to care for
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themselves and
eventually they die.
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So, you know it's not a
disease, yeah it's not a
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disease that you
want because if you get
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the disease if it's
diagnosed and confirmed
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we don't have any cure,
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there is no known treatment.
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Let me ask another
question I know there
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has been a lot of talk
recently about antibiotics
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and how they are
used with cattle;
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do you have any
concerns about that?
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Yes. The reason
they use antibiotics
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and food production in
animals is the animals grow
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faster and of course to
get a better survival rate.
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Some of the crops
that using antibiotics and
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animal husbandry of
rising of animals is that,
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we're finding that the
bacteria that are there
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then become
resistant to the antibiotic.
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So this is leading to
more resistant bacteria
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which means that
of, someone should eat
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the animal and get
sick with some type of food
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poisoning with the
bacteria that is resistant
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to the antibiotics when
they go to their healthcare
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provider and they
get the medicine that
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would normally
cure them of a problem.
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You know, the
Bacteroides, ah my favorite
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antibiotic I'm so
glad, this was given.
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Now there is, but the
antibiotic doesn't have
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have any effect
against the bacteria
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and the person
still remains sick
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and unfortunately
sometimes they may die.
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So are we falling
behind in terms of the
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new antibiotics
that are being created
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to fight these diseases?
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Are we more susceptible now than
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say ten years ago? Yes we are.
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Because what we are
finding now is that because
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of the development of
more resistant bacteria.
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The scientists
are concerned that
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we won't be able
to develop enough
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antibiotics to take
care of the bacteria
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that we have because
of increasing resistance
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and the discriminate use
of antibiotics by people.
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What we find now
is that we may end up
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back as we were
in the 20s and 30s
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before the ear
of antibiotics were.
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Most of the
antibiotics that we have will,
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all of the bacteria
that we're trying to treat
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will be resistant to
them and the antibiotics
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will have no effects,
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we essentially like in
the pre-antibiotic era.
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I've talked with
some healthcare providers
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and what not
they've said that, even now
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there are strains of
disease that no antibiotic
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can really touch,
it keeps that at bed
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but it doesn't
really eradicated.
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Well this is true and
one of the most important
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antibiotics now has available
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something called
Vancomycin and this
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has been useful
against resistant staff.
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What we are
finding now that there are
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some strains of
staff that are resistant to
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Vancomycin and
even when they are using
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combinations of Vancomycin
with other antibiotics,
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we aren't able to
describe the bacteria
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and this is the
serious problem which
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we are now facing
in the medical world.
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So someone doesn't
eat foods that have been
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given antibiotics in other words
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specifically meat
products, animals then
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they are going to be
more responsive to antibiotic,
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should they ever get
sick is what you are saying?
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Well yes you know
though the advantage of not
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eating the meat is
sometimes there may be
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antibiotic residues
that are in the meat and then
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when you eat the
meat then you may,
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if you are sensitive
you might have a allergic
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reaction if you then
take the antibiotic or
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giving the
antibiotics one of the reason,
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but the main
problem with antibiotics
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using the animal husbandry
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is increasing
resistant bacteria.
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Before we go to our
break I want to talk
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little bit about fish,
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do you have a
concern about that?
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Yes fish because of
their wide range and
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because they you
know they take in
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what's in the environment
if their environment is
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polluted with heavy
metals or industrial
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waste then we have
the problem toxicities
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there especially if
it's like lead, mercury,
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TCBs and other
things which are used in
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industry and sometimes
industrial effluent waste
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is discharged into the rivers,
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the streams in the
water and in the oceans.
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And so even though
you may get fish that swim
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way out in the
middle of the ocean tunas,
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salmon and other
things depending on where they
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travel and what's in
the water there may still be
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pollution or toxins in this fish
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that we really
don't want to expose us.
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So in reading your
notes you say there is a
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million more possibilities,
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I don't know how
to say that exactly.
00:13:06.58\00:13:07.96
Bioconcentration,
Bioconcentration.
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What do you mean by
that, is what you're
00:13:11.72\00:13:13.53
meaning that the
fish somehow the water
00:13:13.54\00:13:16.00
comes into them then
they take out all the
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things that may
harm us and they just
00:13:17.81\00:13:19.79
concentrate them in
their own little bodies.
00:13:19.80\00:13:21.41
Well part of that
yes, because some of it
00:13:21.71\00:13:23.39
ends up in the plant
life the smaller fish
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eat the plants
through the Phytoplankton
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then the larger
fish eat the smaller fish
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in the larger ones, you know
00:13:30.03\00:13:31.73
this is the higher
up the food chain the
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larger the fish
then the more effect
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it has for concentrating this,
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you may start
with something which is
00:13:36.82\00:13:38.06
only 200th part per
million in the water
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but then by the time
it gets into the animal
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that may be
increase up to million times
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or into the fish.
So this is our concern.
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Can this cause cancer?
00:13:48.96\00:13:50.07
Well if it's are
wide chemicals, yes,
00:13:50.76\00:13:52.59
if they are carcinogens
like PCBs very definitely,
00:13:52.96\00:13:55.84
they increases
the risk of cancer.
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We are talking
with Dr. Clarence Ing
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from Weimar
institute in California.
00:14:01.69\00:14:03.83
We've been talking about meat,
00:14:04.56\00:14:05.83
we've been talkingc
about mad cow disease
00:14:06.12\00:14:08.40
when we come back we're
gonna talk about chicken,
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Welcome back we
have been talking with
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Dr. Clarence Ing
from Weimar institute in
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California about food
born illnesses and as we
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were talking Dr.
Ing we had mentioned
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some things that really should
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concern us if we were eating.
00:15:45.35\00:15:46.82
You know cows,
chicken fish and you
00:15:47.18\00:15:51.06
had mentioned mad cow disease.
00:15:51.07\00:15:53.23
Had there been any documented
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cases of that in America.
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Well there is a suspected
first case and this was
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reported in UPI
in May of last year.
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A family in New York
their daughter became
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sick and as they
explored the history
00:16:06.43\00:16:09.55
on this they found
that this family had
00:16:09.56\00:16:12.02
received the gift of
beef from Great Britain
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in 1987 and they eat
this and there may be a
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relationship
between this and the disease
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that the daughter has
because the disease that
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she had is very
similar to the variant of
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Creutzfeldt-Jakob
Disease which is associated
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with mad cow
disease so there may be.
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So she has come to
that death or its, yes.
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Another thing we were
talking about was fish
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and I don't know for
under the water yet of that,
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is there anything
else that you would like to
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share with us before we go on.
00:16:43.40\00:16:44.47
Well they found that
there are elevated levels
00:16:44.48\00:16:46.77
of pesticides and
people who have and ladies
00:16:46.78\00:16:50.26
who have breast
cancer and this is similar to
00:16:50.27\00:16:53.06
some of the pesticides
that are found in fish,
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so there may be a
relationship here which
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shows again that our
waters polluted and if you
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are going to eat
fish you need to make sure
00:17:00.71\00:17:03.17
where they come
from and because of
00:17:03.18\00:17:05.25
the wide
circulation of things when they
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get in the water,
is fish will safe.
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I really think that
the best way of course
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is not to eating fish.
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What do you have
left for us to eat Doctor?
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We don't have any
beef, we don't have any fish,
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what can we eat?
Oh there is wonderful
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fruits and
vegetables and cereal grains
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things like this and I
really thank that those
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of us, people who are
not used to eating these
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types foods need to
expand their dietary horizons.
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Because it's
interesting in what people eat.
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If you take a food
Estonian people you find
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that the people usually
eat certain foods may be
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15 or maximum 20
different foods and they
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go through this
list and they just
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continue to go
over and over this.
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And those of the
foods that basically
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and they very,
very lot of from that.
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So what we wanna do is
expand your food horizon,
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get you try foods
that you have never tried
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before and these
are some interesting and
00:18:00.91\00:18:04.25
exciting things that
you really missing out
00:18:04.26\00:18:06.02
on especially when
you learn to how to
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prepare then way
up. You know we want to
00:18:07.69\00:18:09.43
talk about E.Coli
and how does that effects
00:18:09.44\00:18:12.16
you know some meat
sources and what not
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but before we go to
that I wanna go to that
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next, just a
question passing we talked
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about pesticides and
fish we've talked about
00:18:19.05\00:18:21.18
how they are
magnified with their
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little bodies
and then we eat them.
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Aren't there
pesticides with animal
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or rather plant
products as well? Yes
00:18:28.52\00:18:31.46
there are pesticides
that are useful plant
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products as well.
And if the pesticides are
00:18:33.59\00:18:37.40
used properly the
way they are supposed to
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the pesticide there
are amount of pesticides
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what you find in
plants is usually much
00:18:42.88\00:18:46.75
lower than what you
are going to find in meat.
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In other words the
numbers that we use
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if you eat meat, meat
will have about 14.5 times
00:18:50.55\00:18:54.01
amount of pesticides
that you would find in plants.
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Dairy products
approximately 5.5 times
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and this is again because of
00:18:59.71\00:19:01.51
what we call Bioconcentration.
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It takes so many
pounds of plants to
00:19:03.99\00:19:06.65
produce so many
pounds of meat and the
00:19:06.66\00:19:08.79
ratio varies from
the animal and it was
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from five to ten
pounds of plants,
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to you know our
grains to produce the pound
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of you know
chicken or a pound of meat.
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So there is
factor Bioconcentration,
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dairy products
likewise because of
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what the cow eats
if there are chemicals
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and pesticides
there, they are going to be
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some found in the milk as well.
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Let's talk about hamburger.
Well hamburgers you know
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that used to be one of
my favorite foods but now
00:19:34.38\00:19:38.03
that I found out
what hamburgers are made
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from, it's on the
list that I leave out.
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But interesting enough,
if you heard of something
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they call hamburger
diseases and hamburger
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diseases is associated
with one type of bacteria
00:19:47.92\00:19:50.81
called E.Coli and it's
a certain type and it's
00:19:51.22\00:19:55.07
E.Coli 0157:H7 and
if you eat hamburger
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that has been
contaminated with this
00:20:01.81\00:20:04.03
bacteria you can get very sick.
00:20:04.04\00:20:06.80
It causes something called
00:20:07.13\00:20:08.42
Hemolytic-Uremic
Syndrome and what happens is
00:20:08.43\00:20:12.11
the red blood cells
in the side of the person
00:20:12.12\00:20:14.48
begin to
hemolyzed or disintegrate.
00:20:14.86\00:20:16.92
And when they
disintegrate this blocks
00:20:17.20\00:20:20.18
the kidneys,
causes symptoms of stroke,
00:20:20.19\00:20:22.99
causes other
problems and especially
00:20:23.63\00:20:25.25
if this happens
in small children.
00:20:25.26\00:20:26.90
And children have
died from this disease.
00:20:27.27\00:20:30.41
Now this disease
can be prevented if the
00:20:30.68\00:20:34.44
meat has cooked well
done then this will kill
00:20:34.45\00:20:37.60
the bacteria, but
unfortunately some
00:20:37.61\00:20:41.22
people don't
like their hamburgers,
00:20:41.23\00:20:43.19
their meat cooked well done.
00:20:43.20\00:20:44.72
So you say hamburgers or meat,
00:20:45.09\00:20:46.46
does this mean that
you can find this in
00:20:46.47\00:20:48.24
some other place
other than just hamburger?
00:20:48.25\00:20:50.18
Yes it has been found in
00:20:50.44\00:20:51.70
other things
than hamburger. Like?
00:20:51.71\00:20:53.46
They found it in an apple juice,
00:20:53.80\00:20:55.31
unpasteurized apple juice.
00:20:56.25\00:20:57.92
What happened was
they found that the apples
00:20:57.93\00:20:59.94
that were used in
make this apple juice
00:21:00.64\00:21:02.50
that fallen in a
cattle graves near by.
00:21:02.51\00:21:04.81
So if the apple
juice is not pasteurized
00:21:04.82\00:21:07.74
or sterilized,
pasteurization is not
00:21:08.14\00:21:10.45
sterilization but at
least the pasteurization or
00:21:10.46\00:21:13.27
heating it up to
certain temperature so you
00:21:13.28\00:21:15.27
are going to kill the bacteria
00:21:15.28\00:21:16.85
or most of the
bacteria it's safer.
00:21:17.13\00:21:19.47
Definitely don't
drink un-pasteurized
00:21:19.80\00:21:22.03
apple juice, because
you are at risk depending
00:21:22.42\00:21:25.18
where the apple
juice comes form this is
00:21:25.19\00:21:27.03
how happened in the apple juice.
00:21:27.04\00:21:28.52
Parents today have to be
quite vigilant, don't they?
00:21:29.60\00:21:31.95
This is true. This
is very true, if you are
00:21:32.58\00:21:35.20
aware of things
and you know what to
00:21:35.21\00:21:36.87
look for and what
to watch, you can save
00:21:36.88\00:21:38.84
your family a lot of problems.
00:21:38.85\00:21:40.40
In other thing
that E.Coli 0157:H7,
00:21:40.68\00:21:43.35
I think it was a couple
of years ago they recalled,
00:21:43.85\00:21:47.82
had the largest meat
recall they've ever had.
00:21:47.83\00:21:49.93
25 million pounds of
ground beef was recalled
00:21:50.24\00:21:55.37
because of contamination
with these bacteria.
00:21:55.38\00:21:57.87
Yeah I remember that.
That's one of the reasons
00:21:57.88\00:21:59.82
I think there and the
government now talking
00:21:59.83\00:22:01.72
about the radiation of all meat
00:22:01.73\00:22:04.31
to trying to avoid
that problem and what not.
00:22:04.32\00:22:07.91
Do you that it will
work, this radiation idea.
00:22:07.92\00:22:11.72
Well if they kills the
bacteria which I think it
00:22:11.99\00:22:14.48
probably well that
will certainly make it safer
00:22:14.49\00:22:16.58
so that you
shouldn't have this problem
00:22:16.59\00:22:18.45
but there again wide
exposure self to the risk.
00:22:19.00\00:22:22.06
You know say well if I
cook the meat well done
00:22:22.46\00:22:24.80
I don't have the
problem but as we talked about
00:22:25.28\00:22:27.47
in our previous
program we find that when you
00:22:28.14\00:22:30.62
cook the meat well
done you also produce some
00:22:30.63\00:22:33.14
carcinogens which
again you better off to avoid
00:22:33.15\00:22:36.11
so I still think the best
way is to not use the meat.
00:22:36.12\00:22:38.87
Let me ask another
question as far as we
00:22:39.19\00:22:41.05
talking about of
beef and some other things
00:22:41.45\00:22:44.67
but beef primarily
we've talked about.
00:22:44.68\00:22:46.26
Well what about
the other substances
00:22:46.63\00:22:48.64
created by cows for
ingest for instance milk?
00:22:48.65\00:22:51.98
Do you have
concerns with that, these are
00:22:52.31\00:22:54.96
not heated up then
I know how to any real
00:22:54.97\00:22:57.37
high temperature
before we ingest them,
00:22:57.38\00:22:59.37
can we be
getting mad cow disease
00:22:59.69\00:23:01.89
or other things from
milk? Well there is no known
00:23:01.90\00:23:04.94
proof at the present
time that mad cow disease
00:23:05.18\00:23:08.08
can be transmitted through milk.
00:23:08.09\00:23:09.80
But that something
that we don't know and
00:23:10.47\00:23:13.36
we just have to wait
to see what the future
00:23:13.37\00:23:14.87
shows but we do
know that the significant
00:23:14.88\00:23:17.94
number of cattle in
the US are infected with
00:23:17.95\00:23:21.12
something called
Bovine leukemia virus.
00:23:21.13\00:23:23.35
And that, when this
raw milk is fed to other
00:23:24.28\00:23:27.51
animals like
chimpanzees it produces tumors.
00:23:27.52\00:23:30.76
Now it's true that
if you sterilize your
00:23:31.27\00:23:34.60
milk heating at
ultra high temperature that
00:23:34.61\00:23:38.10
you destroy any
virus which can causes.
00:23:38.11\00:23:40.62
But pasteurization
process was not heat milk
00:23:41.01\00:23:44.66
kind of
sterilizing, so some viruses
00:23:44.67\00:23:47.38
may get through. If
you want to drink milk
00:23:47.39\00:23:50.49
I would say the safest
milk for you use would be
00:23:50.50\00:23:53.86
that which is sterilize
at ultra high temperature,
00:23:53.87\00:23:56.76
these of the kinds
you find the cartons in
00:23:56.77\00:23:58.49
the stores that
do not have to be
00:23:58.50\00:24:00.81
refrigerate until
after they are open.
00:24:00.82\00:24:04.01
But I really
think the safest and the
00:24:04.46\00:24:06.21
best way is not
use dairy products.
00:24:06.22\00:24:08.32
Is that an
increasing position of
00:24:08.90\00:24:10.93
the medical community? Ah, it's,
00:24:10.94\00:24:13.18
more and more people
are becoming aware of this,
00:24:13.54\00:24:16.56
and those who are
becoming of aware of this
00:24:16.57\00:24:18.11
are cautioning their people,
00:24:18.47\00:24:20.82
you they are patients
so they referred to that.
00:24:21.10\00:24:23.58
You really don't
need milk once you
00:24:23.90\00:24:25.90
beyond the age of winning.
00:24:25.91\00:24:27.85
There is no
necessity for milk as a food,
00:24:27.86\00:24:31.00
we can get all the
food elements we need that
00:24:31.01\00:24:32.78
of calcium which
is one of the primary
00:24:32.79\00:24:36.09
reason milk has
promoted for adults,
00:24:36.10\00:24:37.94
in your plant foods.
00:24:38.33\00:24:40.40
So we don't need
that milk mustache. No,
00:24:40.41\00:24:43.00
we do not need the milk mustache
00:24:43.61\00:24:45.81
that is absolutely
true. I wanna talk little bit
00:24:45.82\00:24:48.63
about chicken
with you, you have some
00:24:48.64\00:24:50.68
interesting things
about that and I think
00:24:50.69\00:24:52.37
our viewers would
be interested in that.
00:24:52.38\00:24:54.11
But before we go, are
there any other problems
00:24:54.42\00:24:56.33
you wanna mention
about meat generally?
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No I think probably,
at the present time we've
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covered the main
things with meat.
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You need to be
careful when you are cooking
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because itself
produces carcinogens.
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You need to be
aware of the pesticide
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residues and other
things found in meat
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and increase risk
for diabetes, cancer,
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high blood
pressure and heart disease.
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But talking about
chickens consumers reports
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had a very interesting
study which was reported
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last year in which
they sampled almost a 1000
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chickens from
various markets through out
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the US and they found
there is significantly
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high percentage
that were contaminated
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with both
salmonella and campylobacter.
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In fact I think the
figure it was 71 percent
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were contaminated
with one or the other which
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means on a 29
percent did not have either
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and the other thing
was that almost all the
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chickens were
contaminated with E.Coli
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which is a sign of
fecal contamination.
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So the processing of
chickens is not a very
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sanitary process
and you need to be aware
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of this when you
eat chicken, you need to
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handle the meat if
it is contaminated.
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I think many of us
have heard about salmonella
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and that scare few
years ago that was really
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public what is
this campylobacter,
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what does it do?
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Campylobacter is
another disease that
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causes food
poison, it's commonly found
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in chicken it
causes diarrhea, it causes
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sever illness and
it causes any words
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from a 110 to up
to possibly a 1000
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deaths per year
in the United States.
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In fact they estimate
that deaths from food born
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diseases in the United
Sates amounts to almost
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around 27 people
a day which comes to
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to around 9000
people each year. Wow.
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And these can be avoided
by avoiding animal foods.
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What about eggs.
Eggs again I think if you
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want to use eggs you
need to be well cooked
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but even eggs that
are not cracked can be
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contaminate with
salmonella and again eggs
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because of the hazard
with the cholesterol and
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the yolk I think you
better off without them.
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We've been talking
with Dr. Clarence Ing
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from Weimar
institute in California.
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He is reviewed the
literature on reasons
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why we should really
think twice about eating
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any animal products
let me read in closing
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what Dr. Richard
Lacey a mad cow researcher
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from United Kingdom says
there is now overwhelming
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scientific evidence and
medical cause for avoiding
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the consumption
of meat despite the
00:27:26.83\00:27:28.75
government's attempts
to persuade this otherwise.
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We hope this has
been useful to you
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and we hope that you
have Health for a Lifetime.
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