The following program presents principles 00:00:01.98\00:00:03.17 designed to promote good health and 00:00:03.18\00:00:05.14 is not intended to take the place of personalized 00:00:05.15\00:00:07.42 professional care. The opinions and ideas 00:00:07.43\00:00:10.23 expressed are those of the speaker. 00:00:10.24\00:00:12.09 Viewers are encouraged to draw their 00:00:12.68\00:00:14.12 own conclusions about the information presented. 00:00:14.13\00:00:16.72 Hello and welcome to Health for a Lifetime. 00:00:49.83\00:00:52.61 We're happy that you've joined us. 00:00:53.33\00:00:54.31 I'm Don Mackintosh and our special guest 00:00:54.32\00:00:56.74 today is Dr. Clarence Ing from Weimar 00:00:56.75\00:01:00.00 Institute in California. Welcome Dr. Ing. 00:01:00.01\00:01:02.37 It's great to be here with you. 00:01:02.38\00:01:03.61 What we're gonna talk about today is 00:01:04.12\00:01:06.26 diabetes and I know that you have a 00:01:06.27\00:01:08.15 specific interest in this. I know that Weimar 00:01:08.16\00:01:10.49 actually does 10 to 12 different clinics like 00:01:11.05\00:01:13.23 this around the country for people. 00:01:13.24\00:01:14.75 Tell us a little bit about diabetes and 00:01:15.43\00:01:17.33 why it is that you focus on it and Weimar doesn't? 00:01:17.34\00:01:20.19 Well, as interesting as you look at the data 00:01:20.81\00:01:22.68 and always, when if I look at a disease I like 00:01:22.69\00:01:25.02 to look at the statistics and how many 00:01:25.03\00:01:26.61 people are involved. In the United States 00:01:26.62\00:01:29.20 at the present time there are approximately 16 00:01:29.59\00:01:33.00 million diabetics. There is two types of 00:01:33.32\00:01:36.66 diabetes, Type I diabetes, which used 00:01:36.67\00:01:38.98 to be called the Juvenile onset 00:01:38.99\00:01:41.78 diabetes and those are people who get 00:01:41.79\00:01:44.38 diabetes at a young age. In fact, we've had 00:01:44.39\00:01:47.52 recently in our last program we had 00:01:48.44\00:01:50.21 a Juvenile diabetic come to our program 00:01:50.60\00:01:52.50 who was only three years of age. 00:01:52.51\00:01:54.74 It's alright. Now, more usually it starts 00:01:55.12\00:01:58.48 at a little bit later age. And that makes up the 00:01:58.49\00:02:01.41 Type I and that's maybe 700,000 out 00:02:01.42\00:02:05.43 of the 16 million. The other 15.3 million 00:02:05.44\00:02:09.50 are Type II diabetes and that's the most 00:02:09.51\00:02:11.68 common type, and that's what has been 00:02:11.69\00:02:14.48 called in the past adult-onset diabetes. 00:02:14.66\00:02:17.38 The interesting thing is that from what we 00:02:18.01\00:02:20.36 now know from research and 00:02:20.37\00:02:24.39 experience and working with people. 00:02:24.40\00:02:25.87 Probably 70 to 80 percent of the Type II 00:02:26.35\00:02:30.16 or adult-onset diabetes could avoid this problem, 00:02:30.17\00:02:33.42 if they had a proper lifestyle, if they 00:02:33.97\00:02:36.56 would live a healthful lifestyle because there 00:02:36.57\00:02:38.99 are certain things in the lifestyle that we as 00:02:39.00\00:02:41.37 Americans do that just markedly increase 00:02:41.38\00:02:44.13 our risk of developing diabetes. 00:02:44.14\00:02:46.07 So, diabetes then is a, is a large problem. 00:02:46.93\00:02:49.60 Some people I think I have heard them call it sugar. 00:02:50.19\00:02:52.42 What's, what's the real problem about it, 00:02:53.71\00:02:55.56 I mean what does is do? Well, the problem 00:02:55.57\00:02:58.99 with diabetes is probably at least two 00:02:59.00\00:03:01.77 fold and we'll talk primarily about the 00:03:01.78\00:03:04.08 Type II diabetic, if we can think of the 00:03:04.09\00:03:06.72 human cell as a, as a like a sphere 00:03:06.73\00:03:10.44 or like a basketball. And on the surface of the 00:03:10.45\00:03:13.81 basketball would be like a door, we would 00:03:13.82\00:03:16.12 call this the insulin receptor, if a door is 00:03:16.13\00:03:18.19 open the insulin can do it's job of getting 00:03:18.20\00:03:21.06 the sugar or glucose molecule from outside 00:03:21.07\00:03:23.65 of the cell in the blood getting that into 00:03:23.66\00:03:26.00 the cell, but if the door is close it has a 00:03:26.01\00:03:29.46 very difficult time doing that. 00:03:29.47\00:03:30.92 So, one of the ways the body compensates 00:03:31.57\00:03:33.56 for this is to produce more insulin. 00:03:33.57\00:03:35.84 So, the key is, what is it, that's going to get 00:03:36.49\00:03:38.72 those receptors to work or get those 00:03:38.73\00:03:41.00 doors open. One of the things that 00:03:41.01\00:03:42.96 will help to open those doors is a 00:03:42.97\00:03:46.18 plant-based diet. It seems that so 00:03:46.19\00:03:48.78 many good things happen when we eat a 00:03:48.79\00:03:50.94 plant-based diet and so many not good 00:03:50.95\00:03:53.71 things or bad things happen when we eat 00:03:53.72\00:03:55.76 the Standard American Diet, 00:03:56.33\00:03:57.60 which is high in animal fat and 00:03:57.61\00:03:58.82 protein, that's one of them. 00:03:58.83\00:04:00.38 The other thing is lower fat diet opens 00:04:00.88\00:04:03.71 those doors and other one is changing from 00:04:03.72\00:04:06.39 a sedentary to an active 00:04:06.40\00:04:07.88 lifestyle opens those doors. 00:04:07.89\00:04:09.59 So, the insulin can do its work. 00:04:09.60\00:04:11.20 Now, when the insulin doesn't get in 00:04:11.64\00:04:13.48 their and it isn't working effectively 00:04:13.49\00:04:16.27 that trap door that you described in the cell. 00:04:16.28\00:04:18.47 What does it do to the body? 00:04:19.83\00:04:20.91 Well, what happens then is, if the 00:04:21.17\00:04:24.48 insulin receptor, the door is closed 00:04:25.47\00:04:27.28 the blood troopers go up. And as we look at 00:04:27.29\00:04:30.18 people, the interesting thing we find is that 00:04:30.19\00:04:32.47 most of the Type II diabetics, we say 50 00:04:33.48\00:04:35.66 percent of the Type II diabetics don't even 00:04:35.67\00:04:37.77 know they have it. And many of them 00:04:37.78\00:04:39.96 have it for 7 to 7½ years before the 00:04:39.97\00:04:43.93 diabetes is ever diagnosed. Another interesting 00:04:43.94\00:04:47.60 thing that we find out is diabetes is the most 00:04:47.61\00:04:51.22 common cause of blindness here in the United States. 00:04:51.23\00:04:54.84 So, when the sugar goes up it causes 00:04:55.28\00:04:57.26 blindness, how does that one? 00:04:57.66\00:04:58.90 Well, it causes problems in the retina, 00:04:58.91\00:05:00.59 In the eyes it causes what we often see is, 00:05:01.07\00:05:04.04 the first thing we will see is the blood 00:05:04.50\00:05:05.94 vessels would be dilated or larger, 00:05:05.95\00:05:08.38 then as time goes on we find that there 00:05:08.84\00:05:11.30 maybe real small little what we call 00:05:11.31\00:05:13.93 microaneurysm little, and then we will see 00:05:13.94\00:05:18.06 images and if it progresses we go 00:05:18.07\00:05:20.91 from background retinopathy to 00:05:20.92\00:05:23.58 proliferative retinopathy. And the proliferation, 00:05:23.59\00:05:27.33 proliferative retinopathy is the, where the disease 00:05:27.71\00:05:30.94 then causes blindness because 00:05:30.95\00:05:33.03 this produces retinal detachment. 00:05:33.04\00:05:34.96 So, what happens in, in the eye then this 00:05:34.97\00:05:37.52 very simple is those when the sugar just 00:05:37.53\00:05:39.67 keeps running through those little vessels 00:05:39.68\00:05:42.78 that damages them somehow, causes 00:05:42.79\00:05:44.71 them to just leak is that what you're 00:05:44.72\00:05:46.59 saying and then, and then that finally leads 00:05:46.60\00:05:48.95 to something, the whole thing breaking the eye. 00:05:48.96\00:05:53.08 Right, now the new, new blood vessels 00:05:53.09\00:05:55.10 form these blood vessels some of them 00:05:55.11\00:05:57.71 break, that bleeds into the inner part of the 00:05:57.72\00:05:59.76 eye we call the vitreous. And then sometimes 00:05:59.77\00:06:04.75 this produces traction and pulls off the 00:06:04.76\00:06:06.80 retina and this causes, the detached retina is 00:06:06.81\00:06:10.21 what causes the blindness. So, we try to prevent 00:06:10.22\00:06:12.69 that, if we can diagnose it soon 00:06:12.70\00:06:14.73 enough and early enough with using the 00:06:14.74\00:06:16.77 laser, we give a laser treatment inside the 00:06:16.78\00:06:19.20 eye to prevent this type of blindness, 00:06:19.21\00:06:21.04 but the other thing we haven't even talked 00:06:21.58\00:06:23.21 about yet is that as there are changes in 00:06:23.22\00:06:26.24 their eye that also changes in the kidney. 00:06:26.25\00:06:28.51 And because of the changes in the kidney 00:06:29.18\00:06:31.05 approximately 50,000 people each year end 00:06:31.50\00:06:35.59 up having to go on dialysis or have 00:06:35.60\00:06:38.24 kidney transplants because of the 00:06:38.25\00:06:40.00 complications of diabetes on the kidney. 00:06:40.01\00:06:42.99 The medical term is Diabetic Nephropathy. 00:06:43.20\00:06:46.28 And so, that's 50,000 people every year 00:06:46.92\00:06:49.46 either requiring dialysis or kidney transplant. 00:06:49.47\00:06:52.44 And that's fairly a high number. 00:06:52.83\00:06:54.63 The other thing is that 50 percent and 00:06:55.36\00:07:00.87 approximately 50,000 amputations of the 00:07:00.88\00:07:04.50 lower extremity below the knee are 00:07:04.51\00:07:06.76 related to diabetes. So, again if we could 00:07:06.77\00:07:10.08 help people avoid getting diabetes or 00:07:10.64\00:07:13.87 avoid the complications of diabetes, we can go 00:07:13.88\00:07:16.55 long ways to helping them to 00:07:16.56\00:07:18.25 avoid these complications. 00:07:19.30\00:07:20.75 And that's really important. 00:07:21.30\00:07:22.63 The other exciting thing, something else 00:07:23.08\00:07:24.72 which we found out in the last few years is, 00:07:24.73\00:07:27.90 if we can get a Type I diabetic early enough 00:07:29.59\00:07:32.46 there have been a few cases in which we 00:07:33.02\00:07:34.66 have been able to help these patients 00:07:34.67\00:07:36.97 get off of their insulin and have 00:07:38.43\00:07:39.89 normal blood sugar. So, they do not 00:07:39.90\00:07:41.71 have to use insulin. Even Type I? 00:07:41.72\00:07:43.86 Even Type I, this doesn't happen real 00:07:43.87\00:07:46.57 often, but it's certainly worth trying and even 00:07:46.58\00:07:49.89 the ones who aren't able to refine that 00:07:49.90\00:07:51.94 they're able to use less medicine and in doing 00:07:51.95\00:07:55.90 so they still have a good control and 00:07:55.91\00:07:58.14 avoid many of the complications. 00:07:58.15\00:07:59.90 Exciting thing is the Type II diabetic and 00:08:00.31\00:08:02.91 we have some figures on this that we can 00:08:02.92\00:08:04.90 talk about later, but many good things can 00:08:04.91\00:08:07.30 happen when the people are willing 00:08:07.31\00:08:09.00 to make these changes. Now, there are some 00:08:09.01\00:08:11.68 changes here you're saying that can be 00:08:11.69\00:08:14.22 made, I wanna talk about those in a 00:08:14.23\00:08:16.44 minute, but are there changes that we can't 00:08:16.45\00:08:19.22 do, are there risk factors I guess would 00:08:19.23\00:08:21.34 be the way to put it, that we can't 00:08:21.35\00:08:23.07 do anything about? Yes, there are some 00:08:23.08\00:08:25.52 risk factors that we can't do anything 00:08:25.53\00:08:27.29 about and well, we list these risk factors 00:08:27.30\00:08:30.69 because it that also has to relate to 00:08:30.70\00:08:33.16 sometimes who we are. There are certain 00:08:33.17\00:08:35.25 ethnic groups here in the United States that 00:08:35.40\00:08:38.00 have a higher risk for developing diabetes 00:08:38.01\00:08:40.09 amongst those we have are the African Americans, 00:08:40.10\00:08:43.44 the Hispanics, the Asians, and the 00:08:43.67\00:08:47.18 Native Americans all at higher risk for 00:08:47.19\00:08:49.27 developing Type II diabetes. 00:08:49.28\00:08:51.59 We find that those who are overweight, 00:08:52.22\00:08:54.00 those who have high cholesterol, those who 00:08:54.57\00:08:57.34 have high blood pressure, those who 00:08:57.35\00:08:59.60 are over 45 years of age or if a lady had 00:08:59.61\00:09:03.64 diabetes only during her pregnancy we call 00:09:03.65\00:09:06.51 this gestational diabetes or if we she had a 00:09:06.52\00:09:09.73 baby who weighed more than 9 pounds at 00:09:09.74\00:09:11.97 birth, she is at higher risk for developing 00:09:11.98\00:09:15.85 diabetes as well, or if you have parents who 00:09:15.86\00:09:19.72 had diabetes developed adult-onset or 00:09:19.73\00:09:22.33 Type II diabetes, you're at higher risk 00:09:22.51\00:09:24.13 for developing diabetes or a brother or sister, 00:09:24.14\00:09:27.19 all of these things place an 00:09:27.66\00:09:29.51 individual at higher risk. Well, I have several 00:09:29.52\00:09:32.44 uncles that have diabetes. My grandmother had 00:09:32.45\00:09:35.47 diabetes, so I'd be higher risk really. 00:09:35.48\00:09:38.28 You would be at higher risk, 00:09:38.29\00:09:39.64 probably not as high as I'm because I'm of 00:09:40.26\00:09:42.87 Asian ethnic origin, I'm over 45 and both 00:09:42.88\00:09:46.57 of my parents had adult-onset diabetes. 00:09:46.58\00:09:49.42 I talked to the one of my classmates who is 00:09:50.06\00:09:51.71 an Endocrinologist who specializes in 00:09:51.72\00:09:53.80 taking care of diabetes. I asked him, I said 00:09:53.81\00:09:56.14 what's the most important thing you 00:09:56.15\00:09:57.53 can do to lower your risk for diabetes. 00:09:57.54\00:09:59.80 And he said, stay thin. 00:09:59.81\00:10:01.50 Well, I think you have that down. 00:10:02.88\00:10:04.06 That in combination with exercise and, 00:10:04.96\00:10:06.64 exercise is another important factor. 00:10:06.65\00:10:08.67 So, these risk factors that we can't do 00:10:09.84\00:10:11.43 anything about really, if someone's been 00:10:11.44\00:10:13.96 listing and they find out that they're 00:10:13.97\00:10:15.73 African American, they're over 45 years 00:10:16.08\00:10:17.89 old, they're, they're of Asian descent or they 00:10:17.90\00:10:20.15 have a family history for diabetes. 00:10:20.16\00:10:21.70 All these different types of things that 00:10:22.03\00:10:23.73 should not be bad news that they heard 00:10:23.74\00:10:25.27 that, it should rather just be a marker that 00:10:25.28\00:10:26.95 says; hey you need to especially pay attention. 00:10:26.96\00:10:30.07 Right, you know, something else 00:10:30.36\00:10:32.17 interesting was found out by a colleague of 00:10:32.18\00:10:34.22 mine Dr. Steve Pravachan, and he wrote a very 00:10:34.23\00:10:37.71 interesting paper, which appeared in a 00:10:37.72\00:10:39.95 journal called Medical Hypotheses talking 00:10:40.20\00:10:41.88 about why he thinks that there are so many 00:10:41.89\00:10:45.12 Type II diabetics in this is in relation to 00:10:45.13\00:10:48.12 our food that we particularly need. 00:10:48.13\00:10:51.52 And as he talks about it here we use the 00:10:52.08\00:10:54.33 term injured tissue because we find that 00:10:54.34\00:10:57.91 when people eat meat it produces 00:10:57.92\00:11:00.96 bio-chemical changes in the body that make 00:11:01.12\00:11:03.97 it harder for the person who was a 00:11:03.98\00:11:06.46 diabetic to control the blood sugar. 00:11:06.47\00:11:08.22 When a person eats meat we find that the 00:11:08.71\00:11:10.65 meat and by meat I'm including fish and 00:11:10.96\00:11:13.27 chicken, stimulates production of a 00:11:13.63\00:11:16.88 substance called Glucagon, which 00:11:17.69\00:11:19.36 raises the blood sugar. And it also stimulates 00:11:19.53\00:11:23.08 the production of cortisol, which raises 00:11:23.09\00:11:25.08 the blood pressure and the cholesterol. 00:11:25.09\00:11:27.10 So, this is not the type of events or the event 00:11:27.67\00:11:34.44 that you want to happen if you were a diabetic. 00:11:34.45\00:11:36.42 So, just by eating this so called damaged 00:11:36.63\00:11:39.10 tissue that being meat. I suppose you would 00:11:39.11\00:11:41.20 say it's damaged because number one 00:11:41.21\00:11:42.82 it's death, number two it's been cut up 00:11:42.83\00:11:45.17 by your fork or knife I don't know, 00:11:45.18\00:11:46.83 or it's been fried or it's been cooked this 00:11:47.22\00:11:49.25 damage tissue triggers an increase in the very 00:11:49.26\00:11:52.66 blood sugar you're trying to get away from. 00:11:52.67\00:11:54.31 Yes, well this kind of goes back to like in 00:11:54.69\00:11:57.67 emergency response like if a person has 00:11:57.68\00:12:00.50 major surgery or serious burn, the body 00:12:00.51\00:12:04.26 produces certain biochemical changes, 00:12:04.44\00:12:06.38 which raise the blood sugar to help protect 00:12:06.56\00:12:08.48 the body I guess in emergency or defense. 00:12:08.49\00:12:10.77 Likewise how do you think the animal, 00:12:11.23\00:12:13.48 how do you think the fish feels when it gets 00:12:13.49\00:12:15.44 caught on the end of the hook, 00:12:15.45\00:12:16.88 or when it gets caught in the net, you think 00:12:17.34\00:12:19.02 the fish is oh wonderful, I'm gonna be somebody's 00:12:19.03\00:12:21.57 steam fish dinner tomorrow night. 00:12:22.00\00:12:24.19 Probably not. Of course not, 00:12:24.20\00:12:25.98 when the man you know, the chicken 00:12:26.27\00:12:27.73 when the man reaches into the cage to pull 00:12:27.74\00:12:29.37 out the chicken or to grab the chicken, 00:12:29.38\00:12:30.97 does the chicken all relax and says, 00:12:31.25\00:12:32.69 well I'm gonna be someone's fried 00:12:33.03\00:12:34.22 chicken, of course not. There are certain 00:12:34.23\00:12:36.61 biochemical changes which take place in 00:12:36.62\00:12:38.83 the animal shortly before death, 00:12:38.84\00:12:40.93 when the animal is frightened or afraid 00:12:41.45\00:12:43.60 that when you eat that flesh from that fish or 00:12:44.11\00:12:48.27 that chicken or that cow or pig that then 00:12:48.28\00:12:53.58 produce changes in our body and these 00:12:53.59\00:12:55.58 are some of the things that are happening. 00:12:55.59\00:12:57.81 So, if you're going to eat meat make sure 00:12:58.51\00:13:00.20 that the animal was killed not knowing 00:13:00.21\00:13:02.02 what was about to happen, not going to a 00:13:02.03\00:13:04.27 slaughterhouse or any of that. 00:13:04.28\00:13:06.34 Yeah, if that's possible. If it's possible, 00:13:06.35\00:13:08.96 well, yeah go ahead, excuse me. 00:13:10.22\00:13:11.84 Well, you know, the other thing as we talk 00:13:12.55\00:13:14.62 about we've all, we've all heard about 00:13:14.63\00:13:16.63 anabolic steroids, which have been used 00:13:17.30\00:13:19.16 by Olympic Athletes and others. 00:13:19.17\00:13:20.97 And these are the changes that should 00:13:21.35\00:13:23.42 take place in our body and there is to build 00:13:23.43\00:13:25.69 up or strengthen the body, and the muscles 00:13:25.70\00:13:27.41 when you eat food, right, that should 00:13:27.42\00:13:29.84 happen, but when you eat animal protein 00:13:29.85\00:13:33.59 you have some other changes in the body 00:13:33.97\00:13:36.06 which take place called Catabolic 00:13:36.07\00:13:38.70 which should normally happen in 00:13:40.04\00:13:41.16 between meals when the body needs energy 00:13:41.17\00:13:43.24 and this is where the blood sugar is raised 00:13:43.60\00:13:45.53 and we're talking about the production 00:13:45.54\00:13:46.74 of glucagon. So, when I eat the 00:13:46.75\00:13:49.59 plant-based foods, say like my breads or my 00:13:49.60\00:13:53.77 cereal grains, potatoes. And I eats the meat, 00:13:53.78\00:13:56.11 fish, and chicken I have got these 00:13:56.12\00:13:58.28 contradictory phenomena going to both anabolic 00:13:58.29\00:14:00.85 and the catabolic going on at the same time. 00:14:01.22\00:14:03.06 And the body gets confused. 00:14:03.07\00:14:04.65 And of course the blood sugar goes up, 00:14:05.19\00:14:06.87 the blood pressure may go up you know 00:14:06.88\00:14:08.71 and it the raises the cholesterol. 00:14:08.72\00:14:09.98 So, again a plant- based diet doesn't 00:14:10.32\00:14:12.62 cause this problem, it's only when we 00:14:12.92\00:14:14.43 incorporate the animal food or meat, 00:14:14.88\00:14:17.89 fish, and chicken that we have this problem. 00:14:17.90\00:14:19.80 We have been talking with Dr. Clarence Ing 00:14:20.76\00:14:22.71 from the Weimar Institute. 00:14:22.72\00:14:23.95 Well, he does a lot of work with diabetes. 00:14:24.61\00:14:26.56 When we comeback, I'm going to ask 00:14:27.08\00:14:28.87 Dr. Ing some questions about 00:14:28.88\00:14:30.47 further what we can do to avoid. 00:14:31.36\00:14:32.62 We're gonna talk a little bit more about a 00:14:32.63\00:14:34.06 meat based diet versus a vegetarian diet. 00:14:34.07\00:14:36.61 And we're gonna talk about some practical 00:14:37.37\00:14:38.87 things that you can do to reverse diabetes, 00:14:38.88\00:14:42.59 if you have it. Come back and join us. 00:14:42.60\00:14:44.53 Have you found yourself wishing that you 00:14:54.35\00:14:55.68 could shed a few pounds, have you been on 00:14:55.69\00:14:57.93 a diet for most of your life, but not found 00:14:57.94\00:15:00.32 anything that will really keep the weight off, 00:15:00.33\00:15:02.30 if you have answered yes to any of these 00:15:03.16\00:15:04.71 questions then we have a solution for you that 00:15:04.72\00:15:07.41 works Dr. Hans Diehl and Dr. Aileen Ludington 00:15:07.42\00:15:10.97 have written a marvelous book that's called 00:15:11.34\00:15:13.18 Reversing Obesity Naturally and we would 00:15:13.62\00:15:15.88 like to send it to you, free of charge. Here's a 00:15:15.89\00:15:18.81 medically sound approach, successfully used 00:15:18.82\00:15:20.92 by thousands, who were able to eat more 00:15:20.93\00:15:23.21 and lose weight permanently without 00:15:23.38\00:15:25.36 feeling guilty or hungry through lifestyle 00:15:25.37\00:15:27.84 medicine. Dr. Diehl and Dr. Ludington have been 00:15:27.85\00:15:30.87 featured on 3ABN and in this booklet they present 00:15:30.88\00:15:34.09 sensible approach to eating nutrition and 00:15:34.10\00:15:36.62 lifestyle changes that can help you prevent 00:15:36.63\00:15:38.87 a heart disease, diabetes and even cancer. 00:15:38.91\00:15:41.24 Call or write today for your free copy of 00:15:41.97\00:15:43.72 Reversing Obesity Natural and you could be 00:15:43.73\00:15:46.15 on your way to a healthier, happier you, 00:15:46.16\00:15:48.55 it's absolutely free of charge, 00:15:49.01\00:15:50.67 so call or write today. 00:15:50.86\00:15:52.08 Welcome back, we've been talking with 00:16:01.60\00:16:03.10 Dr. Clearance Ing, from Weimar Institute 00:16:03.11\00:16:05.95 in California, where he works with many 00:16:05.96\00:16:08.70 diabetics and reversing that vascular disease 00:16:08.87\00:16:13.02 that we've been talking about. 00:16:13.03\00:16:14.40 Dr. Ing maybe you could tell us a little bit 00:16:14.94\00:16:17.27 about what's happening, what you are saying, 00:16:17.28\00:16:19.24 some of the results you are seeing and 00:16:19.25\00:16:20.65 then maybe there are some people that are 00:16:20.66\00:16:22.72 watching today, one of those 16 million 00:16:22.73\00:16:24.93 Americans who has diabetes that you can 00:16:24.94\00:16:26.82 help of some pointers about what to do. 00:16:26.83\00:16:28.77 Well, it's interesting as we look at the 00:16:29.80\00:16:31.74 patients in our last few sessions we've 00:16:31.75\00:16:34.29 had some diabetics with really severe 00:16:34.30\00:16:36.89 disease and I'm thinking of a 00:16:36.90\00:16:38.06 gentlemen now who was referred, when he 00:16:38.22\00:16:41.04 came to us, he was taking 300 units of 00:16:41.05\00:16:44.57 insulin, that's really more than I have seen 00:16:44.74\00:16:46.95 any diabetic using, but he was taking a 00:16:47.31\00:16:48.91 100 units three times a day, 50 units of 00:16:48.92\00:16:51.50 NPH in regular, three times a day to control 00:16:51.51\00:16:54.49 his blood sugars. And his blood sugars 00:16:54.50\00:16:56.61 were high; he was in his middle to late 60s. 00:16:56.62\00:17:00.72 He also had another severe problem we 00:17:01.25\00:17:02.99 called claudication and that is when he 00:17:03.00\00:17:06.05 would go for a walk, he would start to walk 00:17:06.06\00:17:08.07 and because of the obstruction of the 00:17:08.08\00:17:10.31 artery supplying the blood to his legs. 00:17:10.58\00:17:12.73 He would get severe pain and he couldn't 00:17:13.12\00:17:16.15 walk, he could walk maybe not more than 00:17:16.35\00:17:19.06 40 or 50 yards and he would have to stop 00:17:19.22\00:17:21.20 and rest 'cause it was so painful, so that the 00:17:21.46\00:17:23.03 pain would go away. And he was referred 00:17:23.04\00:17:25.48 to me by a physician who you know, 00:17:25.49\00:17:27.67 Dr. Chim. So, we talked about this 00:17:28.01\00:17:30.43 gentlemen I said, yes, send him up, so he 00:17:30.60\00:17:32.31 came up to our facility. And after he stayed 00:17:32.32\00:17:35.54 with his for 18 days we were able to get 00:17:35.55\00:17:38.14 his insulin usage down from 300 units 00:17:38.32\00:17:42.67 a day down to a total of 100 units a day, 00:17:42.68\00:17:45.30 which is a two- thirds decrease. 00:17:45.31\00:17:48.28 And then when I call him up within 00:17:48.29\00:17:51.64 the last two weeks. He said, you know, 00:17:51.65\00:17:52.93 Doc, he says I've gone down even further. 00:17:53.35\00:17:54.82 Now, I'm only using 60 units a day, but 00:17:55.31\00:17:58.34 the other exciting thing that happened 00:17:58.35\00:18:00.17 is the claudication, the pain that he had, 00:18:00.18\00:18:02.28 when he first came he could walk maybe 40 00:18:02.69\00:18:05.07 yards without having to stop with severe 00:18:05.08\00:18:07.49 pain, he got so, while he was there he could 00:18:07.50\00:18:10.09 walk more than a quarter mile, 00:18:10.10\00:18:12.23 before he even have to rest. 00:18:12.43\00:18:13.72 And then after a short rest he could go on 00:18:14.23\00:18:15.93 and he was now able to walk between 2½ 00:18:15.94\00:18:18.48 and 3 miles per day. Wow! He felt so 00:18:18.67\00:18:21.65 much better and he was just really over 00:18:21.66\00:18:25.18 joy that he could do so much. 00:18:25.19\00:18:26.50 And he made the changes in his diet 00:18:27.06\00:18:29.01 that we have been talking about. 00:18:29.02\00:18:30.21 He went to a totally plant-based diet, 00:18:30.44\00:18:32.66 more called plant foods, cereal grains 00:18:33.11\00:18:35.83 and things like this. And it made a dramatic 00:18:35.84\00:18:38.29 difference, he just felt much, much better. 00:18:38.30\00:18:40.63 Is everybody, is every diabetic gonna see 00:18:41.22\00:18:43.59 changes like that when they 00:18:43.60\00:18:44.81 put these principles in practice? 00:18:45.35\00:18:46.90 I would say that many of them will see, 00:18:46.91\00:18:49.93 many of these changes we've had 00:18:50.83\00:18:52.78 another people who come in who got 00:18:53.07\00:18:55.92 completely off the insulin. 00:18:55.93\00:18:57.30 One of them happened to be a 00:18:57.31\00:18:58.75 nurse and he worked in the ER and when 00:18:58.76\00:19:02.04 he came to our program he was using 00:19:02.05\00:19:05.32 more than a 100 units of insulin a day, 00:19:06.18\00:19:07.99 100 to 140 units of insulin. 00:19:08.00\00:19:09.89 He had high blood pressure, 00:19:10.37\00:19:11.52 he was overweight. And now, he is 00:19:11.53\00:19:14.76 completely off his insulin. In fact, he was very 00:19:14.99\00:19:18.36 fortune; his blood sugars normalized 00:19:18.37\00:19:20.53 within three days. His blood sugars came 00:19:20.54\00:19:23.33 down to normal, when he started exercise, 00:19:23.34\00:19:25.15 he going on plant-based diet. 00:19:25.16\00:19:26.61 He has lost about 25 or 30 pounds. 00:19:27.03\00:19:29.66 And his blood pressure is good. 00:19:30.43\00:19:32.62 His blood sugar is good. He has much more 00:19:32.82\00:19:34.92 energy, and he doesn't have to use any more 00:19:34.93\00:19:37.68 insulin and his blood sugars are normal. 00:19:37.69\00:19:39.51 He is excited about that and so are we. 00:19:39.91\00:19:41.69 I can imagine the family and everybody 00:19:42.66\00:19:44.46 else is too. You have talked about some 00:19:44.47\00:19:46.88 things that we can do then to reverse, 00:19:46.89\00:19:49.47 even reverse this diabetes process that 00:19:49.48\00:19:51.62 what you are talking about. That's right. 00:19:51.63\00:19:52.99 It's not just staying where you are, 00:19:53.16\00:19:55.29 it's reversing it. Why don't we talk about 00:19:55.30\00:19:58.44 a few more of those things, someone's maybe 00:19:58.45\00:20:00.18 watching today and they are wanting to 00:20:00.19\00:20:04.32 start to make those simple changes. 00:20:04.33\00:20:05.96 And, and by the way let me ask you this, 00:20:06.63\00:20:08.02 is this something typical, if they go to 00:20:08.03\00:20:10.46 their family physician, is the family physician 00:20:10.47\00:20:12.40 gonna say, this is what you do to 00:20:12.41\00:20:14.72 reverse diabetes or is it kind of a hidden secret? 00:20:14.73\00:20:18.39 It's kind of a hidden secret and it's not told 00:20:18.87\00:20:23.09 to you by your regular family physician 00:20:23.10\00:20:25.22 because many of them don't even know this 00:20:25.23\00:20:27.04 and they aren't aware of this. 00:20:27.05\00:20:28.19 The medical evidence is out through your 00:20:28.70\00:20:30.36 food, search the medical literature you 00:20:30.37\00:20:32.15 can find that this the bases for what we're 00:20:32.16\00:20:34.87 doing is found in the literature and we're 00:20:34.88\00:20:37.32 putting it together and we're able to persuade 00:20:38.15\00:20:41.13 people to do it. And it's exciting 00:20:41.14\00:20:42.59 what happens the doctor I mentioned 00:20:42.60\00:20:44.15 early Dr. Pravachan. He's worked with 00:20:44.16\00:20:46.75 over 500 diabetics in his clinic in Southern 00:20:46.92\00:20:50.14 California. And in this group of diabetics that 00:20:50.29\00:20:53.97 he's worked with by putting them on a 00:20:53.98\00:20:55.88 plant-based diet, increasing their 00:20:55.89\00:20:57.48 activity level that's exercising. 00:20:57.49\00:20:59.81 He is found that he; their blood sugars 00:21:00.35\00:21:03.58 have gone down between 70 and 100 00:21:03.59\00:21:05.97 milligrams per deciliter. And he's able to 00:21:05.98\00:21:08.55 decrease their medicine on the 00:21:08.56\00:21:09.76 average 30 percent, which is amazing. 00:21:09.77\00:21:13.00 The other interesting thing is that some of 00:21:13.30\00:21:15.40 the cardiologist and the other people that 00:21:15.41\00:21:17.55 refer patients to him in the preventive 00:21:17.88\00:21:19.42 medicine department have become so 00:21:19.43\00:21:21.64 enthused about the changes that have 00:21:21.65\00:21:23.36 happened to the patients that even 00:21:23.37\00:21:25.40 some of these physicians now have 00:21:25.41\00:21:27.22 changed to a plant- based diet themselves. 00:21:27.23\00:21:29.49 You know, we just, well another interesting 00:21:30.12\00:21:32.29 thing that was uncovered as he wrote 00:21:32.30\00:21:34.83 his paper, he found that sometimes you 00:21:34.84\00:21:37.49 know, many Americans are 00:21:37.50\00:21:38.90 struggling with trying to lose weight. 00:21:38.91\00:21:41.12 You know, most Americans have either 00:21:41.72\00:21:43.66 been on a diet or they're planning to go 00:21:43.84\00:21:45.55 on a diet. They say, you know, 00:21:45.56\00:21:47.04 I need to lose weight. Well, another advantage 00:21:47.43\00:21:50.64 of a plant-based diet is that people on a 00:21:50.65\00:21:53.23 plant-based diet, their metabolic rate 00:21:53.39\00:21:56.02 is 11percent higher than that of people who 00:21:56.03\00:21:58.85 are eating standard. So, they burn the food faster. 00:21:58.86\00:22:02.08 Right, you're gonna burn up your calories faster. 00:22:02.09\00:22:04.64 And another important thing is that vegetarians 00:22:05.33\00:22:08.17 produce more, more norepinephrine. 00:22:08.18\00:22:11.57 And this is one of the substances that the 00:22:12.16\00:22:14.18 body requires to help us to control our appetite. 00:22:14.19\00:22:18.79 So, again by being a vegetarian versus 00:22:19.15\00:22:21.42 someone who eats meat, fish, and chicken. 00:22:21.72\00:22:23.28 It will be easier for us, for that type of person 00:22:23.73\00:22:26.46 to control their diet and they afford to lose weight. 00:22:26.47\00:22:28.74 Norepinephrine was one of the things that 00:22:29.27\00:22:30.95 was stimulator the body would produce 00:22:30.96\00:22:35.16 more when the people were using Fen-Phen 00:22:35.17\00:22:37.30 before which has been removed from the market 00:22:37.31\00:22:39.28 because of the problems, but that was interesting. 00:22:40.01\00:22:42.28 So, what I hear you saying then in terms 00:22:43.76\00:22:45.76 of what the diabetic can do that maybe is 00:22:45.77\00:22:48.23 watching today is, if at all possible 00:22:48.24\00:22:51.30 and I think it probably is, what you're suggesting 00:22:52.08\00:22:54.27 is avoid meat, dairy, and fish. 00:22:54.28\00:22:57.58 Secondly eat regular meals you know, 00:22:58.28\00:23:01.51 should they eat a lot of meals I know that 00:23:02.02\00:23:03.43 there is some debate about that. 00:23:03.44\00:23:04.85 I know many diabetics I hear them say, well 00:23:05.36\00:23:07.53 my physician or my dietitians says, 00:23:07.54\00:23:09.48 actually 5, 6, 7 times a day, and have a 00:23:09.49\00:23:12.14 snack in the middle of night. 00:23:12.15\00:23:13.12 What do you think about that? 00:23:14.22\00:23:15.19 That's a very important point you 00:23:15.63\00:23:16.98 brought out, definitely you should not eat 00:23:16.99\00:23:19.03 anything between meals. And it's also very 00:23:19.04\00:23:21.47 important to go to, to go off of dairy 00:23:21.48\00:23:24.54 products especially for the Type I diabetic, 00:23:24.55\00:23:26.82 Juvenile or Type I. So, non-dairy, the 00:23:27.31\00:23:31.07 regular exercise, the low fat 3 meals a day 00:23:31.08\00:23:34.61 is very, very important. Something else that 00:23:35.04\00:23:37.05 we have also found is helpful is after every 00:23:37.06\00:23:39.55 meal go for a short walk 10 or 15 minutes, 00:23:39.56\00:23:42.07 it doesn't have to be fast, but going for a 00:23:42.08\00:23:44.46 little walk helps to lower the blood sugars. 00:23:44.47\00:23:47.35 And in combination with the lower fat 00:23:47.93\00:23:50.83 diet, these are all things that help to 00:23:50.84\00:23:52.82 open those doors, so the insulin can do it's work. 00:23:53.41\00:23:56.44 And what if their dietitians or physicians 00:23:57.34\00:23:58.99 ways, wait a minute I don't know who is, 00:23:59.00\00:24:00.26 I know you watched TV and you hear a lot 00:24:00.72\00:24:02.55 of different things, but if you have heard to 00:24:02.56\00:24:05.24 cut down on your snacks. I'm telling you don't 00:24:05.45\00:24:07.94 do that. What, what does a person like that do? 00:24:07.95\00:24:10.55 Well, the thing is we find that when people 00:24:11.11\00:24:13.35 go on this type of program. 00:24:13.36\00:24:14.49 One other thing is we need to help them 00:24:14.50\00:24:16.75 recognizes that many times within a very 00:24:16.76\00:24:19.49 short time and sometimes when we 00:24:19.50\00:24:22.03 get patients that come to our center we have 00:24:22.04\00:24:23.82 them decrease their insulin after they've 00:24:23.83\00:24:26.90 been their for 24 hours because, 00:24:26.91\00:24:28.66 if we don't decrease their insulin or the 00:24:28.67\00:24:30.97 amount of medicine they're on some of 00:24:30.98\00:24:32.31 them may become hypoglycemic or have 00:24:32.32\00:24:34.33 too lower blood sugar because we find that 00:24:34.34\00:24:36.59 these changes do take place. 00:24:36.60\00:24:38.26 And they take place fairly rapidly in 00:24:38.27\00:24:40.36 certain individuals. Other individuals it 00:24:40.37\00:24:42.28 takes a longer period of time. 00:24:42.29\00:24:43.81 So, someone watching today may 00:24:43.82\00:24:46.04 wanna really think about having their 00:24:46.05\00:24:48.30 physician talk to someone say like you 00:24:48.31\00:24:49.99 or someone that's familiar with these 00:24:50.00\00:24:51.59 principles before they even start because 00:24:51.60\00:24:54.20 they could get into a lot of trouble. 00:24:54.21\00:24:55.28 Well, that's possible, that is true. 00:24:55.80\00:24:58.08 I had a very interesting patient 00:24:58.45\00:24:59.63 who just left our program. 00:24:59.64\00:25:01.01 When he came, he was a 46-year-old 00:25:01.02\00:25:03.07 gentleman. His first blood sugar 00:25:03.08\00:25:05.12 when he came was 206 one week later. 00:25:06.63\00:25:08.95 This is his fasting blood sugar, 00:25:09.37\00:25:10.79 it dropped to 131 a week after that he's 00:25:11.19\00:25:13.90 been there for a total of two weeks, 00:25:13.91\00:25:15.16 if is now normal 107. Wow! His cholesterol 00:25:15.17\00:25:18.90 when he first came, the first test 484, 00:25:19.28\00:25:23.76 wow! That's very high, dropped down 00:25:23.77\00:25:26.26 to 275 a week later, one week later 157. 00:25:26.27\00:25:29.90 Wow! His triglyceride 803, which is very 00:25:29.91\00:25:34.59 high, dropped down to 551 in a week, 00:25:34.60\00:25:37.25 one week later 218. And his HDL that's 00:25:37.45\00:25:41.03 the good cholesterol 34 the first time, 00:25:41.04\00:25:43.62 33 the next time and then it went up to 00:25:43.63\00:25:47.11 45 the next time. And then the cholesterol 00:25:47.75\00:25:50.91 and HDL ratio 14.2 the first time that's 00:25:50.93\00:25:53.74 high because we like a low number 8.3 the 00:25:53.75\00:25:56.82 next time getting better and the last time 3.4. 00:25:56.83\00:25:59.91 Needless to say this gentleman is you know, 00:26:00.51\00:26:02.24 I'm really happy I came here. 00:26:02.41\00:26:04.09 And I'm happy I learned these principles and 00:26:04.60\00:26:06.89 I'm going to follow this the rest of my life. 00:26:06.90\00:26:09.09 That's another important thing we've got to 00:26:09.61\00:26:11.58 make a choice about what you want to do. 00:26:11.59\00:26:14.37 Let me comeback to that, you know 00:26:14.55\00:26:15.89 if you're watching today and you have 00:26:16.23\00:26:17.99 heard some things that really have 00:26:18.00\00:26:19.50 gripped you and you said, look I need my 00:26:19.67\00:26:21.36 physician to hear about, call 3ABN, 00:26:21.37\00:26:24.00 get a copy of this tape. Those numbers that 00:26:24.01\00:26:26.45 Dr. Ing just read to going to mean a lot to 00:26:26.46\00:26:28.71 your physician, but I want to comeback to 00:26:28.72\00:26:31.34 Dr. Ing and ask him a question for all of us. 00:26:31.35\00:26:33.88 Dr. Ing, how do we make changes in our 00:26:33.89\00:26:36.79 last minute here, we've got about 30 seconds. 00:26:36.80\00:26:39.14 How do we make changes in the midst 00:26:39.82\00:26:41.39 of a culture that that doesn't support us? 00:26:41.40\00:26:43.43 You can't try, trying doesn't work. 00:26:44.67\00:26:47.95 The most important thing you've got to 00:26:47.96\00:26:49.90 make a choice. You really don't 00:26:49.91\00:26:51.84 understand how important your will is, 00:26:51.85\00:26:53.58 your will is very important. And the part of the 00:26:53.59\00:26:55.65 will is making a choice. You made a choice to 00:26:55.66\00:26:58.28 listen to this program in 3ABN that was an 00:26:58.29\00:27:00.62 important choice. Now, the next choice 00:27:00.63\00:27:02.67 you want to make is, what am I gonna do 00:27:02.68\00:27:04.55 with the information? Am I going to make 00:27:04.56\00:27:06.53 changes in my life? Chose to live a health, 00:27:06.54\00:27:09.55 more healthful lifestyle, chose to live 00:27:09.56\00:27:12.13 and to follow a plant- based diet, choose to 00:27:12.44\00:27:14.78 exercise regularly, make choices. 00:27:14.79\00:27:17.01 Thank you for joining us today 00:27:18.52\00:27:19.81 for Health for a Lifetime. We hope that you will 00:27:19.82\00:27:23.13 follow through the information you've 00:27:23.14\00:27:25.38 heard today. And contact us here at 00:27:25.39\00:27:27.93 3ABN if you need more information. 00:27:27.94\00:27:29.72 Thank you and we hope 00:27:30.22\00:27:31.57 you have health for a lifetime. 00:27:31.58\00:27:33.92