Hello, friends, grab
your bible and a friend,
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and sit back as we
explore God's word together
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on this edition of House Calls.
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Welcome to the place that
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the Lord knew
you would be today,
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and that's right here
with us on House Calls.
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Thank you for tuning in.
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I have to my right, my
prodigy, my carbon copy,
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he just looks a
little different,
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but we share
something in common,
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that's a passion for God's word,
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we even have the same name.
Good to have you here, John.
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It's good to be here, John.
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You know, today is a good day
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that we are going to get
into a topic that is exciting.
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Yeah.
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We're going to cover it
on a couple of programs,
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Dispensationalism.
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And now sationalism is
a part of it, dispense,
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when you put them two
together it simply means
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a theory that has
advanced many teachings
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that are not
scripturally supported.
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And you'll discover
also in this program
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where the foundation of
Dispensationalism came from.
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While it has
400-year-old history behind it,
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it's very, very modern...
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And some of the
translations of the Bibles,
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not so much translations
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but many of the
Bibles that have study notes,
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for example, you
have Scofield Study Notes.
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Well, Cyrus I. Scofield
was a dispensationalist.
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Some of the modern
"prophets" or people
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that have
thought themselves to be
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having a great angle on
prophecy like Hal Lindsey,
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going a littler
further back, Mary Baker Eddy,
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and then you have John N. Darby.
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So it's really,
it's quite a trek
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for Dispensationalism,
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but suffice to
say we are going to,
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what's the word I can
use, we are going to unmask...
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Dispel the myth.
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Dispel the myths
behind Dispensationalism.
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We're gonna desensationalize
it and then lead you right back
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to what the word of God says,
to what the word of God says.
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Sound like you know,
get that out of there.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And so stay tune for a program
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that really is going
to peak your interest
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and may be hopefully
share something with you
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that can strengthen
your dedication to God's word
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because this is
not a normal topic.
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We're not just
talking about the Sabbath
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and the state of the dead,
and you know, the 2,300 days,
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we're talking about something
that has really gripped
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and led much of Christendom
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into a very dark place
with no scriptural support.
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But before we do any of
that we always have prayer,
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then we're going to
go to Bible questions,
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and all those
things that we enjoy to do.
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But, John, before
we go any further,
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let's have our prayer.
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Let's do that.
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Father in heaven,
we just depend upon you
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so much for any
program like this,
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for everyday of our life,
but when we open your word
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unless you lead us
through your spirit
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we cannot find your truth.
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And so we pray that your
presence would be with us,
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that the Spirit would
lead and guide our thoughts,
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and bless each
heart and each mind
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that is with us
today on the program.
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In Jesus' name, Amen.
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Amen.
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And as many of you know,
we enjoy Bible questions.
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Sometimes we get
them in envelopes.
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But most of the time
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we get them on the
internet, and today,
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we're going to have
a little bit of both
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of the Bible questions you have.
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And if you're sitting down
right now and you think, "man,
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a thought just came to
my mind or a question,"
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and you have
access to the internet,
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you may want to
send that question
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to this following email address:
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housecalls@3abn.org.
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That's housecalls@3abn.org.
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And we would
enjoy downloading those.
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So keep them coming
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because it's very
much a part of our program.
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What you want to know
is what we want to answer,
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and if we don't
answer to your liking,
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send us another
question so we can clarify it.
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But John, we're
going to give you
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the first swing of the bat
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or may be I should say
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the first swing of the golf club
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or the scriptures.
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Let me put them in
the proper context.
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There you go.
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I have a
question here from Haines,
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and he's writing
from South Africa.
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Oh, wow.
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He says, "Can you please help me
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with a time
prophecy misunderstanding?"
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He says "Nebuchadnezzar
became king in 605 BC.
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In the second year of his
reign he had the Daniel 2 dream.
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The first year
are never counted,
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and that's true.
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He is a centenarian, isn't?
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Meaning, that happened in
the third year of his reign,
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he only captured Daniel
and his friends in 597-598 BC
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when he invaded Jerusalem."
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My problem is this gap
between Daniel's time and 602,
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when he had the dream."
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In other words,
Daniel wasn't there
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when he had the dream in 602.
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The question is a great question
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and we should I think know
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little bit about our history,
especially this history.
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The part of the
question that is not accurate
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is the time
Daniel was taken captive.
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There are three deportations
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that happened from
Jerusalem to Babylon.
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The first one
came on the heels of
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the Egyptian
defeat at Carchemish,
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and this is when Pharaoh Necho
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lost to Babylon and
really never recovered.
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And really, so then Egypt
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which Israel often depended upon
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as their ally to help them
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with these other
northern countries
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was no longer there.
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So King Josiah
became the vassal king
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basically of
Babylon from that point on,
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and that was the
first deportation.
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So Babylon came in to Jerusalem
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and then the first
deportation occurred,
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which included Daniel
and his three friends.
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So that happened in 605 BC.
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So instead of, the question says
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that he was deported in 597-598,
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that's actually not true.
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Daniel and his three
friends actually were deported
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from Jerusalem
to Babylon in 605,
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the same year
that Nebuchadnezzar
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took over as king.
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Now, the other
reason that date is
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an important date for us,
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as we look at prophecies
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because 605 represents
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the first year of the
70 years of captivity.
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So, 605 is the beginning count,
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the marker there for
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70 years of
captivity in Babylon,
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marking the first year
and the first deportation
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of that time period.
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The second
deportation occurred in 597-598
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which he mentions here,
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but that is another group
of Israelites from Jerusalem
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or Jews from
Jerusalem coming at that point
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and then the third
deportation is 586.
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And that is when the
whole city was just destroyed,
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because even as a vassal,
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the king would
rebel constantly against
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the kings of
Babylon and Nebuchadnezzar,
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who was ruling
still then, destroyed it.
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Okay.
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You know,
sometimes those viewers
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that are listening to the
program are not sometimes,
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but sometimes the
persons listening to the answers
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and they will say,
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"Dates, numbers, what
does it really matter?"
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And you know, the
reason why the Lord
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has given us these prophecies
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is one of the reasons,
John, and I have spoken to,
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I remember speaking to a couple
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that were, as
they were scientists
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when I was in the
city of St. Louis.
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And we went to visit
them, they were avout atheist,
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they declared they
have no belief in the Bible.
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But when I got to prophecy
and I began to walk through
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the time tables of
prophecy as it was foretold
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and as it was fulfilled,
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they said...
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"We never heard that."
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And that, they said,
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"That's kind of
like science to us
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because it's
verifying something that
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to many people,
it's just a theory."
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So, when you hear
dates talked about
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and when we talk
about time prophecies...
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you'll see that the
verification of that
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or the validity of
those time prophecies
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is to simply say,
as Isaiah 46:9-10 says,
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"Remember the
former things of old,
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for I am God, and
there is no other,
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declaring the end
from the beginning,
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and from ancient times
things that are not yet done."
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So now, if an atheist
listens to a time prophecy
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and the things
that were foretold
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are happening exactly
as they were foretold,
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they got to say, "Wait a minute,
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who could have done that?
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But...
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So is there really a God?"
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And that is so beautiful
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when it comes
to time prophecies.
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So it may just sound like
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dates, and numbers,
and kingdoms, and kings,
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but in fact, the
whole purpose of it
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is as Jesus said
to his disciples,
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"I tell you
these things beforehand
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that one day do come
to pass you will believe."
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And it affirms, it
confirms our faith.
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Right.
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If the word
becomes living and powerful
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because no man can
predict the future.
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No man.
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And as peter says,
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"Prophecy never
came by the will of man,
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but holy men of god
spake as they were moved
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by the Holy Spirit."
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So you have God
inspiring the prophets,
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Holy Spirit becoming the
active penman through them
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and so you say,
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"Okay, well,
God, the Holy Spirit,
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well, can I
really be an atheist.
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When I'm looking at something
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that in some
sense is like science,
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it verifies that there has
to be someone outside of us
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that could project something
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from 1,600 years
ago, 3,000 years ago
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and it happens
in our modern day?
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Is it possible?"
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Yes, it is possible.
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That is why prophecy
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that John just talked
about has such validity
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and such necessity
behind it in God's words.
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And the other thing
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I'll just mention really
quick here in too is that,
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you know, for the atheist,
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for those that
are really looking
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at the word of God
critically, you know,
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you can be convicted
that there is truth here.
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We see these dates
and these prophecies
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and they're amazing,
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but then what
the devil has done is
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he has brought higher criticism
into the forefront today.
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And so many people
who look at scripture
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take what's called a
higher critical approach.
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They look at it
critically to break down,
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it's supernatural...
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ability
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or it's
supernatural infusion of God
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through prophecy
and through other things
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through testimonies and things.
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So what you will have here,
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your common response
would be to the atheist
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to that meets with you and says,
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"Wow, I've never
heard that before."
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The higher
critical thinking person
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would come along and
say, "Well, you know what,
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actually those prophecies
were written afterwards,
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after the event happened."
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It couldn't happen.
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And it's absolutely
a ridiculous thought
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because most evidence
points very clearly to the fact
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that Daniel wrote
this book, not anyone else.
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Daniel wrote it.
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If he wrote it,
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it preceded very
clearly the events
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that are actually occurring.
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You know, I am
glad you brought that up
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because some
theologians argue that
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Daniel wrote this
after it happened.
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But the time frames would have
almost made it appears, though,
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Daniel had to live
for hundreds of years.
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Or in some case
almost a 1000 years
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in order for these things
that were foretold by Daniel
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to be written
after they occurred
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because Daniel projected things
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that happened before
him and long after him.
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That's why we honestly say
the partner of higher criticism
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is Dispensationalism.
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It's this
shifting to the future,
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those events that
are foretold in Daniels.
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So what can't be
covered by Daniels existence,
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what he wrote about
is moved to the future
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because one
thing the devil does,
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he wants to happen,
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he does not want
us to focus and say,
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God's word is
absolutely sure and trustworthy.
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He wants to take
our eyes off of that.
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And anyway, you can just see it
how he's working very clearly.
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I can see that
just very, very clear.
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We have a question from,
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well, does not
give a first name.
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Sharon, okay, Sharon,
and does not say from where
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but says, Sent from my iPad.
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"Matthew 5:20 states
that, 'Except your righteousness
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exceeds the righteousness
of the scribes and Pharisees,
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you shall in no case enter
into the kingdom of heaven.' "
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She said, "This is
really confusing to me
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because the
scribes and Pharisees
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were the people who weren't
the most loving and kind.
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What does this mean
in practical terms?"
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Well, you kind of answer
the question with a question,
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and one of the things that
Jesus is pointing out is truly,
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they were not loving
and they were not kind,
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they were just law people.
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The law, let me
broaden the phrase here
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not just the commandments,
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but the ceremonial laws,
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the laws that were
contained in ordinances,
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the Pharisees were sticklers.
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You know,
sometimes you can call them
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the doctors of their day,
of the theological world then,
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the lawyers of the
theological world then.
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And they were very exacting
in the way they kept the law,
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which made them so rigid.
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So one of the reasons why
the women caught on adultery,
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where you cannot
commit adultery by yourself,
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but one of the reasons
why she was brought to Jesus
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and Pharisees wanted
him to make a decision about
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whether or not
she should be stoned
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is they didn't think
that adultery was adultery
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until the very
act was carried out.
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They didn't think of the
way that Jesus expanded that
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to say, well, if you look
at a woman to lust after her,
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you have
committed adultery already.
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They thought that
murder was only murder
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when the actual act took place,
when somebody's life was taken.
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But Jesus said, if
you hate your brother,
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you've already killed him.
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And so what Jesus was saying
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about the Pharisees
and scribes, he says,
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"If we're just law keepers
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based on the literal application
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and fulfilment in
carrying out of that law
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then we are no
different than they are."
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And so I'm going
to read that text
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and I'll share
how Paul the Apostle
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also had to deal
with this in his day.
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So again, Matthew 5:17
to give you the context.
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Jesus says, "Do not think that
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I came to destroy
the Law or the Prophets.
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I did not come to
destroy but to fulfil.
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For assuredly, I say to you,
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till heaven and earth pass away,
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one jot or one title
will by no means pass
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from the law till
all is fulfilled."
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And by the way,
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he is saying
this to the Pharisees.
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They're kind of
thinking "Okay, we know that."
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And he says in verse 19,
"Whoever therefore breaks
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one of the least
of these commandments
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and teaches men so
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shall be called least
in the kingdom of heaven,
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but whoever does
and teaches them,
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he shall be called great
in the kingdom of heaven."
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And they're thinking,
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"Okay, well, hey, we
have, up to this point,
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we are fully in alignment
with what you just said."
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But then he goes on
in verse 20 to say this,
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"For I say to you, that
unless your righteousness
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exceeds the
righteousness of the Pharisees
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or scribes and Pharisees,
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you will by no means
enter the kingdom of heaven."
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Then he goes to break it down
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what he meant by the
'their righteousness.'
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Look at very 21,
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"You have heard that it
was said to those of old,
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you shall not murder,
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and whoever murders will
be in danger of the judgment,
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but I say to you that
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whoever is
angry with his brother
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without a cause shall be
in danger of the judgment.
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And whoever says
to his brother, Raca,
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shall be in
danger of the council."
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And he goes on.
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And what he's doing is comparing
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not just the actual law
itself but the spirit of it.
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And let me make application
before I go to 2 Corinthians 3.
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Today, in
Christianity, the danger that,
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let me just use this phrase,
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the danger that can
be a stumbling block
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to those who honour
the commandments of God.
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Because you have these,
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once again, I'll go
back to Dispensationalism.
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You have this
period in Christian history
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where many
evangelicals today say,
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"Well, in the Old Testament,
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they will say,
by keeping the law,
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now we will say, by
grace through faith."
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And so they say,
the dispensation of law,
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the dispensation of grace.
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And so now when you mention
the Sabbath today, they say,
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that was under
the old dispensation.
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That's how they try to
sweep it under the rug.
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But today, we
just honour the Lord
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and it really does not matter,
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we just, this whole
Spirit is more important
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than the actual letter.
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So what they
have done is they said
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the Spirit is more
important than the letter
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and the Pharisees says,
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the letter is more
important than the Spirit.
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But John 4:23, Jesus says,
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"The hour has come
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that the true worshiper
must worship the Father
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in Spirit and in truth,
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for the Father
seeking such to worship,"
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John 4:23-24.
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And so you have Jesus saying,
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"You think that the
letter does not matter?
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Wrong.
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You think only
the Spirit matters?
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Wrong."
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The letter and the Spirit
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together is where Jesus
is talking about we must be,
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and that's balance.
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So today, Paul the Apostle,
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when he ran into
this very same fraction
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among the Christians at Corinth,
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he said in 2 Corinthians 3:6,
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let me go ahead
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and bring up the context of that
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because it's very important.
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By the way, do you have that?
I don't know if you have that.
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2 Corinthians, what?
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Chapter 3 and verse
6. Let's look at that.
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I could even start with verse 4.
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2 Corinthians 3: 4.
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Go ahead and read that for us.
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"And we have such trust
through Christ toward God.
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Not that we are
sufficient of ourselves
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to think of anything
as being from ourselves,
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but our sufficiency is from God,
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who also made us sufficient
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as ministers of
the new covenant,
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not of the letter
but of the Spirit,
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for the letter kills,
but the Spirit gives life."
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Okay, so he is saying
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"Where were those who
focus so much on the letter?"
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I think they had no Spirit.
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I like the way
one preacher says,
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"Too much law you..."
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What's the phrase?
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"Too much law, you dry up,
too much Spirit, you blow up,
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but when you combine
law and spirit together
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you grow up."
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See?
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There are those who
"Law, law, law, law."
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There are those
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"Grace, grace,
grace, grace, grace."
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Then, they throw the whole
baby and the bath water out.
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We don't needs
God's commandments,
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we don't need God's
law, we are under grace,
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we're saved by
grace through faith.
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And you have this wishy-washy
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pabulum of religion
with no solidity to it,
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and you could do anything
as long as you love the Lord,
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pick a day as
long as you have a day,
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as long as you
just do good things.
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The Lord condemn that
and that's why he says,
00:19:00.67\00:19:03.71
"The letter killeth, if
that's all you focus on,
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but the Spirit makes a life,"
00:19:06.24\00:19:07.71
and then he combines
it to Spirit and in truth.
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So in a
nutshell, as an Adventist
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we cannot focus just on,
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well, if you
don't keep the Sabbath,
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you'll be lost, if you don't...
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You know, we
have to make sure that
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the purpose of it is John 14:15,
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which we know, "If you
love Me, keep My commandments."
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The Spirit of love
must be encompassed
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and accompanied but anything
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because that's what
the Pharisees didn't have.
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They did not have that.
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They were sticklers of the law
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and they did not have
any grace connected to it.
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I am resisting
going into our topic.
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I know.
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Because this is a good launch,
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but I think we have time for
one more question, you think?
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Okay, you want to do it? Yeah.
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This one is from Darrel,
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and it says, "My
question is this,
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'Will God answer
the prayer of a person
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who was not keeping
the Ten Commandments?'
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" All right, good question.
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Let's go to a
couple of passages here,
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number one, Jeremiah 11.
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Let's go to Jeremiah 11:10-11.
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And I am going to read here,
this is in regard to Israel,
00:20:20.52\00:20:23.79
there have been a
rebellion for some time,
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it's one of their
cycles of rebellion.
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And so the Lord is
speaking and he says here,
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"They have turned back
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to the iniquities
of their forefathers
00:20:35.16\00:20:36.97
who refused to hear My words,
00:20:37.00\00:20:39.00
they have gone after
other Gods to serve them,
00:20:39.03\00:20:41.47
the house of Israel
and the house of Judah
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have broken My covenant
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which I made with their fathers.
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Therefore, thus says the Lord:
00:20:46.31\00:20:48.31
Behold, I will surely
bring calamity on them
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which they will
not be able to escape,
00:20:52.25\00:20:53.92
and though they cry
out to Me, I will not..."
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What? "Listen to them."
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So clearly, you
can get to a point.
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The Bible is
pretty definitive on this.
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You can reach a
point where God will hear
00:21:05.49\00:21:08.96
and it's a result of rebellion,
00:21:09.00\00:21:11.10
but as the kind of
rebellion is the kind of action
00:21:11.13\00:21:15.27
in the practice in life
00:21:15.30\00:21:17.17
where you have
turned from the Lord
00:21:17.21\00:21:19.24
and you do not want
to do the Lord's will.
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There is no
desire for repentance,
00:21:22.41\00:21:24.05
there is no sorrow for sin,
00:21:24.08\00:21:26.01
it's a clear path of rebellion,
and you know the commandments.
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The Israelites knew very well
what The Ten Commandments were,
00:21:30.15\00:21:32.59
they were carrying
with them everywhere.
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And they were an
integral part of their life,
00:21:35.16\00:21:37.89
but they refusing to hear.
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And in this case,
they were making other Gods
00:21:39.76\00:21:41.66
and putting other
Gods before their God,
00:21:41.70\00:21:44.57
the God of Heaven.
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And so God says,
I will not hear you.
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Now, so back to the question,
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"The prayer of a person
00:21:53.24\00:21:54.58
who's not
keeping the Commandment,
00:21:54.61\00:21:55.94
is that prayer heard?"
00:21:55.98\00:21:57.31
It depends.
00:21:57.35\00:21:59.01
Because there are many who
break the Ten Commandments,
00:21:59.05\00:22:01.42
who'll break one
of the Commandments
00:22:01.45\00:22:02.85
but don't know
they are doing that.
00:22:02.88\00:22:04.32
They don't know they are living.
00:22:04.35\00:22:05.69
Sin of ignorance.
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Yeah, and you could also say
00:22:07.09\00:22:09.86
that most of us
have sins of ignorance.
00:22:09.89\00:22:14.50
I mean, we all have
things we need to work on.
00:22:14.53\00:22:16.43
In fact, the
closer we get to Christ,
00:22:16.46\00:22:18.07
the more sinful we
see ourselves to be
00:22:18.10\00:22:20.30
because we compare with
the One that is perfect.
00:22:20.34\00:22:23.94
So you cannot say just
00:22:23.97\00:22:25.64
because someone has
committed a sin or has a sin
00:22:25.67\00:22:29.34
that they're
probably not aware of that
00:22:29.38\00:22:31.51
they are not heard by God.
00:22:31.55\00:22:34.22
God reads the heart.
00:22:34.25\00:22:36.05
What's that, "Man's looks
upon the outward appearance
00:22:36.08\00:22:38.35
but the Lord
looks upon the heart."
00:22:38.39\00:22:40.32
He sees our
desire, he sees our motive.
00:22:40.36\00:22:42.96
And there are
many in this world,
00:22:42.99\00:22:45.33
I believe, good
meaning, well meaning
00:22:45.36\00:22:47.13
Christians who
are following the Lord
00:22:47.16\00:22:48.50
with all their heart
00:22:48.53\00:22:49.86
and living up to
every bit of light
00:22:49.90\00:22:51.83
that they have been given
00:22:51.87\00:22:53.20
and they study to know
00:22:53.23\00:22:54.57
and come to know
through His word,
00:22:54.60\00:22:56.34
and they may be
breaking a commandment.
00:22:56.37\00:22:58.07
But God still hears them
00:22:58.11\00:23:00.24
because they are
doing it in ignorance,
00:23:00.28\00:23:01.78
they're not doing it
with willing, disobedience,
00:23:01.81\00:23:04.48
as was happening back then.
00:23:04.51\00:23:07.62
I'll also
mentioned John 14:13-15,
00:23:07.65\00:23:10.89
you have a promise
there where Jesus says,
00:23:10.92\00:23:14.86
"Ask anything in My
name and I will do it",
00:23:14.89\00:23:17.66
and then verse 15, He says
00:23:17.69\00:23:19.03
"If you love Me,
keep My commandments."
00:23:19.06\00:23:20.60
So there's a clear connection
00:23:20.63\00:23:21.96
between obedience
and the freedom to ask
00:23:22.00\00:23:25.77
God for anything.
00:23:25.80\00:23:27.44
So the best situation any
of us can be in this to know
00:23:27.47\00:23:30.74
that we're living up to
the light that we received,
00:23:30.77\00:23:32.87
we're not
rejecting his commandments,
00:23:32.91\00:23:34.58
we're not
rejecting any of the words
00:23:34.61\00:23:38.01
that He says in His word.
00:23:38.05\00:23:40.48
And we know without a
doubt that He hears us
00:23:40.52\00:23:43.49
because He loves us
00:23:43.52\00:23:44.92
and He knows our
heart is for Him.
00:23:44.95\00:23:46.96
You know, building on that,
00:23:46.99\00:23:50.16
I mean, you made
a very good point,
00:23:50.19\00:23:51.53
just to further
emphasize the question.
00:23:51.56\00:23:54.40
There is a condition to prayers
being answered and lot of times
00:23:54.43\00:23:58.30
we don't think of God's
promises his conditions,
00:23:58.33\00:24:01.14
but God's
promises are conditional.
00:24:01.17\00:24:03.07
Couple of things I want
to point out and you said,
00:24:03.10\00:24:05.24
but I want to
reiterate, you know,
00:24:05.27\00:24:06.84
sometimes
repetition is the best teacher.
00:24:06.88\00:24:10.68
If a person does
not know, Acts 17, 30,
00:24:10.71\00:24:14.72
"Times of
ignorance God overlooked"
00:24:14.75\00:24:16.95
or God winked at as the
King James Version says,
00:24:16.99\00:24:19.15
"But now commands all
men everywhere to repent."
00:24:19.19\00:24:21.86
When a person is
unaware of something,
00:24:21.89\00:24:24.76
the sincerity
precedes that individual.
00:24:24.79\00:24:28.06
Now, let me just be
candid about what I mean.
00:24:28.10\00:24:31.10
You can't say, well, I
never read the commandments
00:24:31.13\00:24:32.80
so I didn't know
it was a sin to kill.
00:24:32.83\00:24:35.24
There are certain
things that we know are wrong.
00:24:35.27\00:24:38.44
You know, because the
Lord has placed His law
00:24:38.47\00:24:40.84
in our minds and our hearts.
00:24:40.88\00:24:43.11
So this Spirit
that speaks to a person
00:24:43.14\00:24:45.21
just before they are
about to commit a heinous crime
00:24:45.25\00:24:48.58
only when they pass the
boundaries of God's grace
00:24:48.62\00:24:52.25
they have turned off the
voice of the Spirit of God,
00:24:52.29\00:24:56.06
they can commit
such heinous crimes
00:24:56.09\00:24:58.43
because they're no longer
tuned into the spirit of God.
00:24:58.46\00:25:01.10
They don't want to
hear it and the Lord has,
00:25:01.13\00:25:02.96
in the case of Psalm,
has departed from them.
00:25:03.00\00:25:05.90
So people are able
to carry these things,
00:25:05.93\00:25:07.64
but we are not talking about
that extremist of a situation.
00:25:07.67\00:25:10.51
They are those who and honestly,
00:25:10.54\00:25:12.27
let's just say
they are many people
00:25:12.31\00:25:13.88
that honour the
first day of the week.
00:25:13.91\00:25:15.61
They have no clue.
00:25:15.64\00:25:16.98
There are many people
00:25:17.01\00:25:18.35
that embrace the
teachings of the rapture,
00:25:18.38\00:25:20.72
the secret rapture,
00:25:20.75\00:25:22.15
they have not heard
anything else and as the Lord,
00:25:22.18\00:25:25.29
as they pray for
the Spirit of God
00:25:25.32\00:25:26.86
to continue to
lead them, John 16:13,
00:25:26.89\00:25:29.36
"He will lead them and
guide them into all truth."
00:25:29.39\00:25:32.23
But once you become aware,
00:25:32.26\00:25:34.23
there is a different
standard applied altogether.
00:25:34.26\00:25:36.70
Once you are
aware, the Lord makes you
00:25:36.73\00:25:41.10
in a different
category altogether.
00:25:41.14\00:25:42.77
So when you get to that point
that you know better now...
00:25:42.80\00:25:46.17
let me use the
Sabbath as an example
00:25:46.21\00:25:48.21
that you know that the
Sabbath is God's holy day.
00:25:48.24\00:25:50.68
You know that He
did not sanctify Sunday,
00:25:50.71\00:25:53.42
but now Proverbs
28:9 comes into play,
00:25:53.45\00:25:57.65
"One who turns his
ear from hearing the law,
00:25:57.69\00:26:02.59
even his prayer
is an abomination."
00:26:02.62\00:26:06.46
That's huge.
00:26:06.49\00:26:07.83
So now "I don't want
to hear, I don't to hear."
00:26:07.86\00:26:09.66
I met a guy I
once studying with.
00:26:09.70\00:26:11.27
"I don't want to
hear, I don't want to hear,"
00:26:11.30\00:26:12.63
and I said what
is that all about?
00:26:12.67\00:26:14.04
He said "If I hear
it, I'm responsible."
00:26:14.07\00:26:17.51
If you hear that railroad
crossing bells and whistles,
00:26:17.54\00:26:22.04
if you hear the
ding, ding, ding, ding,
00:26:22.08\00:26:24.61
you could plug your ear,
but you're gonna get killed.
00:26:24.65\00:26:26.92
Yeah, whether
acknowledge it's coming or not.
00:26:26.95\00:26:29.28
I didn't hear it. I'm
in the emergency room.
00:26:29.32\00:26:31.25
I didn't hear
it. But what you had?
00:26:31.29\00:26:33.02
I had my headsets in.
00:26:33.05\00:26:34.46
It was ringing, it was glanging,
00:26:34.49\00:26:36.79
it was gonging, and
you just chose not to hear.
00:26:36.83\00:26:39.66
In the very same way,
ignorance is not protection
00:26:39.69\00:26:44.00
when you know better.
00:26:44.03\00:26:45.37
Another text in Isaiah 59:2,
00:26:45.40\00:26:48.67
"But your iniquities have
separated you from your God,
00:26:48.70\00:26:52.34
and your sins have
hidden His face from you,
00:26:52.37\00:26:56.34
so that He will not hear."
00:26:56.38\00:26:58.41
So we have these cherished sins
that we continue to participate
00:26:58.45\00:27:01.78
and the Lord says you know what?
00:27:01.82\00:27:04.12
You keeping going
asking Me for things,
00:27:04.15\00:27:06.29
I'm not going to listen to
you and here is the reason why.
00:27:06.32\00:27:09.82
1 John 3:22.
00:27:09.86\00:27:12.69
Go there John
and read that for us.
00:27:12.73\00:27:14.06
Here is the reason
00:27:14.10\00:27:15.43
why Lord will not
listen to some individuals
00:27:15.46\00:27:17.00
because when you
know God's requirements
00:27:17.03\00:27:19.17
and you choose to ignore them
00:27:19.20\00:27:20.77
and you think that God is
kind a like Walmart or Macy's,
00:27:20.80\00:27:24.37
that just is
going to swipe your card
00:27:24.41\00:27:25.91
and give you
whatever you ask for.
00:27:25.94\00:27:27.41
No, there are conditions
to what God responds to.
00:27:27.44\00:27:30.98
1 John 3, verse 22.
00:27:31.01\00:27:32.71
"And whatever we
ask we receive from Him,
00:27:32.75\00:27:35.02
because we keep His commandments
00:27:35.05\00:27:36.42
and do those things
00:27:36.45\00:27:37.79
that are pleasing in His sight."
00:27:37.82\00:27:39.22
Okay, there you go.
00:27:39.25\00:27:40.59
So you just can't
keep the commandments
00:27:40.62\00:27:41.99
and say, hey, all
these things I have done
00:27:42.02\00:27:43.53
since I was a youth,
the rich young ruler.
00:27:43.56\00:27:46.16
But you do what is
pleasing in His sight
00:27:46.19\00:27:49.00
and that's why
when the Bible says
00:27:49.03\00:27:52.37
when the Lord says to
Job, there is none like him,
00:27:52.40\00:27:55.40
he resists evil
00:27:55.44\00:27:58.01
and when the Lord
calls the person righteous
00:27:58.04\00:28:00.34
is because that person
lives that way in His sight.
00:28:00.38\00:28:02.74
You know, this is another reason
00:28:02.78\00:28:04.11
why we should never
reach the point of saying
00:28:04.15\00:28:05.98
I've learned it all.
00:28:06.01\00:28:07.98
This is the most
dangerous position
00:28:08.02\00:28:09.58
I think we can become or
we can get in to is that,
00:28:09.62\00:28:12.49
you know, I know the
truth, I've got all the truth
00:28:12.52\00:28:16.69
and then, somehow, we become
closed to any new revelation
00:28:16.73\00:28:21.86
or new
understanding of something.
00:28:21.90\00:28:23.60
And I know that, you know,
00:28:23.63\00:28:25.23
our evangelical brothers
and friends out there are just,
00:28:25.27\00:28:31.67
they have a different,
it's a different gospel
00:28:31.71\00:28:33.84
and we're going to
be talking about that.
00:28:33.88\00:28:35.21
This is dispensational
kind of view of the gospel
00:28:35.24\00:28:37.75
and a prophecy
and of many things.
00:28:37.78\00:28:39.21
We'll talk about that,
00:28:39.25\00:28:40.58
but they're just not
open to hearing the other side
00:28:40.62\00:28:46.32
and I think that
that is one of the things
00:28:46.35\00:28:48.12
that really brings
about a downfall to a church
00:28:48.16\00:28:53.36
because they willingly disregard
00:28:53.40\00:28:55.43
what God is
trying to teach them.
00:28:55.46\00:28:56.80
And He can do no more with them,
00:28:56.83\00:28:58.43
as if, they've gone
as far as they can go.
00:28:58.47\00:29:00.77
That's why in the
Bible in, I believe,
00:29:00.80\00:29:03.14
it's in the Book of
Acts where Paul says,
00:29:03.17\00:29:06.01
these were more noble
than those in Thessalonica.
00:29:06.04\00:29:10.21
And he's speaking
about the Bereans.
00:29:10.25\00:29:11.58
Yeah.
00:29:11.61\00:29:12.95
And that they received
00:29:12.98\00:29:14.32
the word of God
with all readiness
00:29:14.35\00:29:15.68
and they searched
the scriptures daily
00:29:15.72\00:29:17.39
to see whether
these things were so,
00:29:17.42\00:29:19.39
I looked into that
and I discovered that
00:29:19.42\00:29:21.72
the Jews in Thessalonica
were field by prejedous,
00:29:21.76\00:29:26.13
that is not so
much a racial prejedous
00:29:26.16\00:29:28.60
but they had already
come to the conclusion
00:29:28.63\00:29:31.10
that they rejected the Messiah.
00:29:31.13\00:29:32.47
So any preaching
about the Messiah
00:29:32.50\00:29:34.07
was already suspect.
00:29:34.10\00:29:35.67
It was like, "I
don't want to hear it,
00:29:35.70\00:29:37.04
I don't want to hear
it, I don't want to hear it.
00:29:37.07\00:29:38.97
I know exactly what
you're going to preach about."
00:29:39.01\00:29:40.41
And today, the
same thing has happened.
00:29:40.44\00:29:42.18
I knew you going to be
talking about the Sabbath,
00:29:42.21\00:29:44.15
I knew you're gonna talk
about the state of the dead,
00:29:44.18\00:29:45.78
the 2,300 days, eternal burning.
00:29:45.81\00:29:48.72
I don't want to hear
it, I don't want to hear it.
00:29:48.75\00:29:50.09
And that's what's happening
00:29:50.12\00:29:51.45
in many of the
evangelical communities,
00:29:51.49\00:29:52.82
I don't want to hear it.
00:29:52.85\00:29:54.19
I was talking to
somebody on this Facebook page
00:29:54.22\00:29:57.86
that was set up, you know,
00:29:57.89\00:29:59.46
Truth Seekers or
whatever the title was,
00:29:59.49\00:30:01.53
and I was going back
and forth in dialoguing
00:30:01.56\00:30:04.07
with someone in regard
to the Ten Commandments,
00:30:04.10\00:30:05.63
because they had
raised the question
00:30:05.67\00:30:07.00
and I chimed in on it
00:30:07.04\00:30:08.37
and they came back really hard,
really strong against that.
00:30:08.40\00:30:10.71
You know, "We're
in a Gospel of Grace,
00:30:10.74\00:30:12.67
we're not in the law anymore.
00:30:12.71\00:30:14.04
All you law keepers," you
know, about the Sabbath and,
00:30:14.08\00:30:17.18
"You're under a burden"
00:30:17.21\00:30:18.55
and just the
typical stuff you get.
00:30:18.58\00:30:20.55
And, I said, well,
how about all these times
00:30:20.58\00:30:25.15
where Jesus says very clearly
00:30:25.19\00:30:26.76
and asks through the epistles
of the apostles, those letters,
00:30:26.79\00:30:30.93
how come they say "keep
the commandments of God?"
00:30:30.96\00:30:32.66
He says, "Oh, those
aren't the Ten Commandments."
00:30:32.69\00:30:35.56
And they even cite them...
00:30:35.60\00:30:36.93
And, I said, wait a minute,
00:30:36.97\00:30:38.30
those aren't the
Ten Commandments?
00:30:38.33\00:30:39.67
He said, "No, those
are Jesus Commandments,
00:30:39.70\00:30:41.04
he gave new Commandments."
00:30:41.07\00:30:43.04
I said, wait a minute,
"The Jesus, the 'I am,'
00:30:43.07\00:30:46.71
that also was the one that
met Moses on the burning bush
00:30:46.74\00:30:49.81
and the one that
gave the Commandments
00:30:49.84\00:30:51.41
to Moses way back when,
00:30:51.45\00:30:52.78
the same one Jesus
appeared in the New Testament,
00:30:52.81\00:30:54.72
he has other
Commandments, new ones?"
00:30:54.75\00:30:57.55
He discarded the old ones and...
00:30:57.59\00:30:59.65
"Yes." And they
have no proof of that.
00:30:59.69\00:31:02.82
They have no
proof. It's unbiblical.
00:31:02.86\00:31:06.19
It comes from a higher critical
way of approaching the Bible.
00:31:06.23\00:31:08.90
They don't use any
kind of proof-texting.
00:31:08.93\00:31:10.77
You know, we talk
about proof-texting
00:31:10.80\00:31:12.13
sometimes in a bad light.
00:31:12.17\00:31:13.50
No.
00:31:13.54\00:31:14.87
But, there is a
time for proof-texting.
00:31:14.90\00:31:16.24
When you're
looking at subject matters,
00:31:16.27\00:31:17.61
you need to compare
scripture with scripture
00:31:17.64\00:31:18.97
and they prove each other out.
00:31:19.01\00:31:21.44
Right. And they're important.
00:31:21.48\00:31:23.68
And so, but this
willing ignorance
00:31:23.71\00:31:26.31
and just rejection of
any kind of that study,
00:31:26.35\00:31:30.05
you know, I...
There is something in, um,
00:31:30.09\00:31:33.09
our court of law today called
00:31:33.12\00:31:34.69
"the
preponderance of the evidence."
00:31:34.72\00:31:36.96
Right.
00:31:36.99\00:31:38.33
And we're not talking
about circumstantial evidence.
00:31:38.36\00:31:39.73
No.
00:31:39.76\00:31:41.10
You know, we can't convict
under circumstantial evidence.
00:31:41.13\00:31:42.46
But we can convict
00:31:42.50\00:31:43.83
under the
preponderance of good evidence.
00:31:43.87\00:31:46.43
And when you put
all the scriptures
00:31:46.47\00:31:47.80
on a specific topic,
00:31:47.84\00:31:49.17
that something you're
trying to study out together,
00:31:49.20\00:31:51.57
you're gonna have some text
00:31:51.61\00:31:52.94
that might appear
to say something else,
00:31:52.97\00:31:55.54
but when you line
everything up in your columns
00:31:55.58\00:31:57.58
is to what they
appear to be saying,
00:31:57.61\00:31:59.21
you're gonna find it where
preponderance of the evidence
00:31:59.25\00:32:01.62
leaning in one
direction over the others.
00:32:01.65\00:32:03.28
That's right.
00:32:03.32\00:32:04.65
And that is something
that they refuse to do
00:32:04.69\00:32:06.79
when they search the scriptures.
00:32:06.82\00:32:08.16
They take one or two texts
00:32:08.19\00:32:09.52
that appear to
say something else
00:32:09.56\00:32:10.89
and they go with that
00:32:10.93\00:32:12.26
because it fits into their model
00:32:12.29\00:32:13.63
which is a dispensational model.
00:32:13.66\00:32:16.30
All the other texts
that don't appear to say that
00:32:16.33\00:32:18.03
which are the evidence of truth,
00:32:18.07\00:32:20.34
they reject.
00:32:20.37\00:32:21.97
And so there is a time
to refer to the scriptures.
00:32:22.00\00:32:27.28
When it comes to your future,
your destiny, your salvation,
00:32:27.31\00:32:30.75
don't put that
based on a theory,
00:32:30.78\00:32:32.85
it has to be
supported by God's word.
00:32:32.88\00:32:34.22
I'm gonna kinda leave it there,
00:32:34.25\00:32:35.58
'cause, you know, we
wanna transition into our topic
00:32:35.62\00:32:38.45
which is gonna be a display
00:32:38.49\00:32:41.09
of what we just
talked about here.
00:32:41.12\00:32:43.19
So if you have any
questions you wanna send to us,
00:32:43.22\00:32:45.46
you can send those
to housecalls@3abn.org,
00:32:45.49\00:32:49.20
that's housecalls@3abn.org,
00:32:49.23\00:32:51.90
and we will
gladly by God's leading,
00:32:51.93\00:32:53.80
answer those questions,
according to God's word.
00:32:53.84\00:32:57.44
That is the
foundation here at this network.
00:32:57.47\00:33:01.74
The word of God is
the foundation upon
00:33:01.78\00:33:04.78
which we are established.
00:33:04.81\00:33:07.05
Now, John, lead
into a little bit,
00:33:07.08\00:33:08.62
because a lot of the research
00:33:08.65\00:33:10.62
that we're gonna be
talking about here today
00:33:10.65\00:33:12.49
are putting together
the comparative analysis.
00:33:12.52\00:33:15.86
Now we used the big
word "comparative analysis."
00:33:15.89\00:33:20.00
We laid some foundation in
the beginning of the program,
00:33:20.03\00:33:23.26
at the top of the hour,
00:33:23.30\00:33:24.87
talking about dispensationalism.
00:33:24.90\00:33:29.87
Really, dispensationalism
is responsible for so much
00:33:29.90\00:33:34.88
that exists in
Christianity today
00:33:34.91\00:33:37.38
and I'll talk about
some of the translations
00:33:37.41\00:33:39.25
and how you can tell whether
your Bible is affected by it
00:33:39.28\00:33:41.45
or your study
notes are affected by it.
00:33:41.48\00:33:44.25
But, um, the categories
that Dispensationalism
00:33:44.29\00:33:47.66
often effects is like
law, grace, covenants,
00:33:47.69\00:33:51.99
and what are some
of the other ones?
00:33:52.03\00:33:53.53
The Rapture, Second Coming,
00:33:53.56\00:33:55.70
the
Resurrection, ah, Tribulation,
00:33:55.73\00:33:58.63
you know, the end time,
great Tribulation period,
00:33:58.67\00:34:02.30
among other things, Prophecy,
00:34:02.34\00:34:04.54
time prophecy is
much more literal
00:34:04.57\00:34:08.24
than
understating a day for a year.
00:34:08.28\00:34:10.55
So, everything, it
really runs the gamut.
00:34:10.58\00:34:12.58
Yeah. The millennium.
00:34:12.61\00:34:13.95
You know, we heard the phrase,
00:34:13.98\00:34:15.32
The Earthly Reign,
The Millennia Reign
00:34:15.35\00:34:17.29
and people waiting for,
wanting to go to Jerusalem,
00:34:17.32\00:34:22.16
where the sacrificial
system is gonna be set up again.
00:34:22.19\00:34:24.73
That's all...
00:34:24.76\00:34:26.09
Christ will return
to rule there and...
00:34:26.13\00:34:27.53
Yeah.
00:34:27.56\00:34:28.90
So, we're gonna cover
a lot of these things,
00:34:28.93\00:34:30.87
each of these
topics and just show
00:34:30.90\00:34:32.23
what God's word
actually says about that.
00:34:32.27\00:34:34.97
But, I'm wondering, may be,
I'll give you way back history
00:34:35.00\00:34:37.54
and then you jump in,
00:34:37.57\00:34:38.91
'cause I know,
you preached recently,
00:34:38.94\00:34:40.61
not too long ago on
some of the detail of this,
00:34:40.64\00:34:43.24
so you are more
fresh up on it than I am.
00:34:43.28\00:34:45.25
Matter of fact, I've done,
I did a whole series called,
00:34:45.28\00:34:47.08
"Final Events," which
is available through 3ABN,
00:34:47.12\00:34:49.62
it's "Final
Events," a five hour series,
00:34:49.65\00:34:52.75
specifically focusing on
the theory of the Rapture.
00:34:52.79\00:34:55.89
Yeah.
00:34:55.92\00:34:57.26
Where it came from,
00:34:57.29\00:34:58.63
bringing it all
the way to today.
00:34:58.66\00:35:00.00
Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:00.03\00:35:01.36
See, that's a lot
more level of detail
00:35:01.40\00:35:02.73
than I've brushed
up on here lately.
00:35:02.76\00:35:04.17
But, one thing we do know,
is that, after Christ Ascension
00:35:04.20\00:35:10.41
and the Gospel
went like wild fire,
00:35:10.44\00:35:13.14
you had the devil
kind of shift years a bit
00:35:13.17\00:35:15.58
and instead of
saying, I can't beat him,
00:35:15.61\00:35:17.71
I'm gonna join him and
you have pagans shifting
00:35:17.75\00:35:20.22
and coming into the church.
00:35:20.25\00:35:22.22
And so, Rome which
before had been more pagan
00:35:22.25\00:35:25.42
had become people.
00:35:25.45\00:35:27.32
The Church of Rome.
00:35:27.36\00:35:28.79
And, it wasn't
that the church was pure
00:35:28.82\00:35:33.09
and pagans as they came
into the church converted,
00:35:33.13\00:35:36.16
it was more of pagans
bringing in their rites,
00:35:36.20\00:35:38.63
their ceremonies, their beliefs
00:35:38.67\00:35:40.27
and mingle them
with Christianity
00:35:40.30\00:35:42.07
that developed that church
00:35:42.10\00:35:44.21
and for, for many
hundreds and hundreds of years
00:35:44.24\00:35:47.58
and the God to appoint
where the Lord intervened
00:35:47.61\00:35:49.94
and he rose up, he brought
forward to the forefront,
00:35:49.98\00:35:53.85
a reformation, known as
the Protestant Reformation.
00:35:53.88\00:35:57.59
That's right.
00:35:57.62\00:35:58.95
So, we have a
period of reformers,
00:35:58.99\00:36:00.32
different reformers
starting with Martin Luther,
00:36:00.36\00:36:02.32
coming through and
getting back to the Bible.
00:36:02.36\00:36:04.73
Their montreal
was sola scriptura,
00:36:04.76\00:36:07.00
which was the
Bible and Bible alone
00:36:07.03\00:36:09.10
for all rule of
faith and practice.
00:36:09.13\00:36:11.53
And, the light was shed back on
the word rather than tradition
00:36:11.57\00:36:17.21
and rather than
what had been going on
00:36:17.24\00:36:19.44
for hundreds and
hundreds of years.
00:36:19.47\00:36:21.81
Not only did it bring
out the word of God again,
00:36:21.84\00:36:25.81
which was hidden
for many of those years,
00:36:25.85\00:36:27.72
and only defined and
explained by the church,
00:36:27.75\00:36:32.05
which had a grip on it.
00:36:32.09\00:36:33.66
But, when that came to light,
00:36:33.69\00:36:35.76
the other thing
that was pointed out
00:36:35.79\00:36:38.49
through that
protestant reformation period
00:36:38.53\00:36:41.36
was eyes were on Rome
as the Antichrist power.
00:36:41.40\00:36:45.80
Right.
00:36:45.83\00:36:47.20
So, they really
felt the heat so to speak
00:36:47.24\00:36:50.74
and did everything they
could through the inquisitions
00:36:50.77\00:36:53.11
and other things to
try and put that down.
00:36:53.14\00:36:56.04
But again, the
devil shifted his years
00:36:56.08\00:36:58.71
from force to joining.
00:36:58.75\00:37:00.78
Mm-hm.
00:37:00.82\00:37:02.15
He did the same thing he
did early on, he does again.
00:37:02.18\00:37:04.19
And what he did was,
00:37:04.22\00:37:05.55
he launched a
counter-reformation
00:37:05.59\00:37:08.72
and the counter-reformation
was started first,
00:37:08.76\00:37:12.06
was initiated by
the Church of Rome,
00:37:12.09\00:37:14.33
but it wasn't by force,
00:37:14.36\00:37:16.16
in other words by
burning people at the stake
00:37:16.20\00:37:17.63
and other things anymore,
00:37:17.67\00:37:19.00
which did destroy and
kill millions of people.
00:37:19.03\00:37:21.44
Yeah. More like 50 million.
00:37:21.47\00:37:22.80
But, it only grew,
00:37:22.84\00:37:24.17
this reformation
only grew in that,
00:37:24.21\00:37:26.31
but this time they were going
to sow seeds of false doctrine
00:37:26.34\00:37:30.55
and that's what it started to
do for the counter-reformation.
00:37:30.58\00:37:34.02
Now, can you take us from there,
00:37:34.05\00:37:35.38
because there
are two key figures
00:37:35.42\00:37:36.75
that came out that
counter-reformation
00:37:36.79\00:37:38.12
and one of them won out,
00:37:38.15\00:37:39.89
which is where
Dispensationalism came from.
00:37:39.92\00:37:42.49
You know, there were,
there were two Jesuits
00:37:42.52\00:37:44.59
that were
commissioned to work on
00:37:44.63\00:37:47.53
a theory that would take
00:37:47.56\00:37:50.93
the eyes of the reformers
00:37:50.97\00:37:52.43
Like Huss, and Jerome,
and Wycliffe and Peter Waldo
00:37:52.47\00:37:56.27
and so many of the
reformers of that era
00:37:56.30\00:38:00.61
would take their eyes off
of the power of the dark ages,
00:38:00.64\00:38:04.08
the Church of the Dark
Ages, which is the Roman church.
00:38:04.11\00:38:07.42
And, there were two things
that were brought to the table.
00:38:07.45\00:38:12.42
Preterism, which
was Luis de Alcazar
00:38:12.45\00:38:16.49
and futurism, which
was Francisco Ribera.
00:38:16.52\00:38:21.13
Got to have that roll on there.
00:38:21.16\00:38:22.90
One proposed,
Alcazar proposed that
00:38:22.93\00:38:26.07
all of prophecy had
already been fulfilled.
00:38:26.10\00:38:29.30
Well, that was weak.
Rome did not accept that.
00:38:29.34\00:38:32.27
But, when Francisco Ribera said,
00:38:32.31\00:38:34.74
certain
prophecies had been fulfilled
00:38:34.78\00:38:36.91
but other are only going
to be fulfilled in the future.
00:38:36.95\00:38:41.28
They established one
called the "Gap Theory,"
00:38:41.32\00:38:44.55
which was the
70-week prophecy of Daniel 9.
00:38:44.59\00:38:48.09
This was really developed by
Darby, right, the Gap Theory,
00:38:48.12\00:38:50.29
he began to...
00:38:50.33\00:38:51.66
Yeah, and Darby gave it
the term "The Gap Theory."
00:38:51.69\00:38:54.40
But, um, the
Roman Church gave it
00:38:54.43\00:38:59.03
the theory
called, um, "Futurism,"
00:38:59.07\00:39:03.24
was the term that they
used, because they said, well,
00:39:03.27\00:39:06.78
out of the 70-weeks of Daniel 9,
00:39:06.81\00:39:09.18
only 69 were fulfilled.
00:39:09.21\00:39:11.58
That was their proposition.
00:39:11.61\00:39:13.92
And they said, that the last one
00:39:13.95\00:39:15.78
is gonna come way in the future
when "The Antichrist" shows up.
00:39:15.82\00:39:20.79
So, now if that one
hasn't yet been fulfilled,
00:39:20.82\00:39:24.03
it's saying to the
people of that day,
00:39:24.06\00:39:25.76
that had no Bibles, we
can't be the Antichrist
00:39:25.79\00:39:28.60
because he's gonna
come way in the future.
00:39:28.63\00:39:30.70
That's that dispensation.
00:39:30.73\00:39:32.53
The tribulation
when that happens,
00:39:32.57\00:39:34.17
the Antichrist is the
one responsible for that.
00:39:34.20\00:39:36.57
But, based on the nine
descriptions in Daniel 7,
00:39:36.60\00:39:41.78
the Antichrist
clearly was articulated
00:39:41.81\00:39:44.81
by the reformers of
their day and they said,
00:39:44.85\00:39:47.35
Rome fits all of the identifying
00:39:47.38\00:39:49.95
qualifiers to be the...
00:39:49.98\00:39:52.35
And, almost to
the very last one,
00:39:52.39\00:39:53.72
the reformers knew, their, they,
00:39:53.76\00:39:56.42
it was clear to them that Rome,
00:39:56.46\00:39:58.46
the Church of Rome
was the Antichrist power.
00:39:58.49\00:40:00.80
There were only four
beasts describes in Daniel 7
00:40:00.83\00:40:04.10
and Rome was the fourth one,
00:40:04.13\00:40:05.77
great, judgeful,
terrible, iron teeth,
00:40:05.80\00:40:07.90
that stamps the residue
00:40:07.94\00:40:10.31
and anything that was
under the power of Rome.
00:40:10.34\00:40:12.67
The iron kingdom of Rome
was completely obliterated
00:40:12.71\00:40:17.18
and the
reformers said, this is it,
00:40:17.21\00:40:19.28
This-is-it, everything
matches. This is the power.
00:40:19.31\00:40:22.48
And that little horn
comes up out of Rome.
00:40:22.52\00:40:24.72
That's right.
00:40:24.75\00:40:26.09
The seven heads and ten horns,
00:40:26.12\00:40:27.46
you had the 10
horns of Western Europe
00:40:27.49\00:40:30.23
and out of that, 3 nations,
the Vandals, the Heruli,
00:40:30.26\00:40:32.66
and the Ostrogoths were uprooted
00:40:32.69\00:40:34.86
because they Arian nations,
they resisted the rise of Rome.
00:40:34.90\00:40:38.23
When they were finally,
00:40:38.27\00:40:39.60
the last was
removed in the year 538,
00:40:39.63\00:40:42.00
then Rome began that
reign from 538 to 1798.
00:40:42.04\00:40:45.81
As the Bible says
"time, times, and half a time,"
00:40:45.84\00:40:48.04
so keeping this foundation
helps us to see prophetically
00:40:48.08\00:40:51.68
that the Bible was clear
about the position of Rome
00:40:51.71\00:40:54.55
but Rome said we don't
want people to understand this.
00:40:54.58\00:40:57.32
So they began to
advance and you know, John,
00:40:57.35\00:41:01.12
the apostles knew that
this was going to happen.
00:41:01.16\00:41:04.33
In Acts 20:29,
00:41:04.36\00:41:07.80
listen to the
words of the apostle,
00:41:07.83\00:41:10.63
he said "For I know
this, that after my departing,
00:41:10.67\00:41:16.57
shall grievous
wolves come in among you,
00:41:16.60\00:41:19.94
not sparing the flock.
00:41:19.97\00:41:22.31
Also from among
yourselves men will rise up,
00:41:22.34\00:41:25.91
speaking perverse things,
00:41:25.95\00:41:28.55
to draw away the
disciples after themselves.
00:41:28.58\00:41:31.75
Therefore watch and remember
00:41:31.79\00:41:33.62
that for three
years I did not cease
00:41:33.66\00:41:35.36
to warn everyone
night and day with tears."
00:41:35.39\00:41:38.49
So that's exactly what happened.
00:41:38.53\00:41:40.40
They brought in heresies
that drew away disciples
00:41:40.43\00:41:43.77
and as John said a
moment ago, paganism came in
00:41:43.80\00:41:46.80
and assumed the
role of Christianity.
00:41:46.84\00:41:49.30
And in fact, I think
even in 2 Thessalonians too,
00:41:49.34\00:41:51.91
Paul referred to this
power was "already at work."
00:41:51.94\00:41:54.81
Already at work.
00:41:54.84\00:41:56.41
So he saw this power
growing through Rome...
00:41:56.44\00:41:59.78
The mystery of iniquity.
00:41:59.81\00:42:01.15
..where the little horn would
rise from, was already at work.
00:42:01.18\00:42:04.22
That's right.
Growing and coming to power.
00:42:04.25\00:42:06.02
Mm-hm.
00:42:06.05\00:42:07.42
So the Bible is very clear,
00:42:07.46\00:42:09.82
the protestant
reformers understood this, John,
00:42:09.86\00:42:12.49
and so you'd
think that we would know
00:42:12.53\00:42:15.13
but this counter-reformation
did have an affect, it worked.
00:42:15.16\00:42:19.47
And to a great extent
we have now Christendom
00:42:19.50\00:42:23.37
which has adopted
at large this theory,
00:42:23.41\00:42:27.91
we are calling
dispensationalism,
00:42:27.94\00:42:30.25
that was not only
advocated by Francisco Ribera
00:42:30.28\00:42:33.62
but after that by
Darby and by others.
00:42:33.65\00:42:38.35
When you read the
Left Behind series,
00:42:38.39\00:42:40.09
when you read The
Late, Great Planet Earth,
00:42:40.12\00:42:42.39
when you read all these books
00:42:42.42\00:42:43.99
you are reading
material that comes from,
00:42:44.03\00:42:47.06
originates with Darby
and then Scofeild and others.
00:42:47.10\00:42:51.47
And we don't realize, I
think most don't realize
00:42:51.50\00:42:53.67
this is a theory that came
out of the counter-reformation
00:42:53.70\00:42:57.37
to undo what the reformers did.
00:42:57.41\00:42:59.67
So here's my point
and, then you jump in here,
00:42:59.71\00:43:05.01
God comes along and initiates
00:43:05.05\00:43:07.45
through Luther the
protestant reformation
00:43:07.48\00:43:10.02
and does a wonderful thing,
00:43:10.05\00:43:11.39
bringing people back to
the truth of God's word.
00:43:11.42\00:43:13.62
The devil counteracts that
by bringing through his church,
00:43:13.66\00:43:17.03
through his system,
a counter-reformation,
00:43:17.06\00:43:20.93
a false system of truth
to overcome and to battle
00:43:20.96\00:43:26.74
against that system
of truth that God set up.
00:43:26.77\00:43:29.70
So the question I have is,
00:43:29.74\00:43:33.31
when people say
I am a protestant,
00:43:33.34\00:43:38.41
can you really be a protestant
00:43:38.45\00:43:40.58
and accept the
counter-reformation,
00:43:40.62\00:43:43.55
doctrines and
theories and teachings.
00:43:43.59\00:43:45.29
Wow.
00:43:45.32\00:43:46.65
That's a very,
very good question.
00:43:46.69\00:43:48.02
Because you can't
really say I'm a protestant
00:43:48.06\00:43:50.96
after, my church and I believe
00:43:50.99\00:43:53.33
after the
spirit of the reformers
00:43:53.36\00:43:54.86
which God rose up to power,
00:43:54.90\00:43:56.97
I believe in what they stand for
00:43:57.00\00:43:59.53
and yet live and
agree and breathe and teach
00:43:59.57\00:44:03.34
and share those doctrines
00:44:03.37\00:44:05.34
that come out of
the counter-reformation
00:44:05.37\00:44:06.71
known today as
dispensationalism.
00:44:06.74\00:44:08.54
Right. It's really an either or.
00:44:08.58\00:44:10.61
We've got two presentations,
two lines of thought
00:44:10.65\00:44:14.18
and you have to
pick one or the other.
00:44:14.22\00:44:16.18
Because, John, both
sides can't talk to each other
00:44:16.22\00:44:19.15
in regard to explaining
00:44:19.19\00:44:20.79
and working on
doctrines and scripture.
00:44:20.82\00:44:23.46
When this side
talks to this side
00:44:23.49\00:44:24.96
and tries to share truth
00:44:24.99\00:44:26.33
and this side
shares it with this side,
00:44:26.36\00:44:27.70
they can't hear each other
00:44:27.73\00:44:29.06
because it's two
different systems.
00:44:29.10\00:44:30.43
They don't fit.
00:44:30.47\00:44:31.80
They can't
incorporate. They can't merge.
00:44:31.83\00:44:33.90
And so I know that, you
know, many times our pastors
00:44:33.94\00:44:37.17
in the
Seventh-Day Adventist Church
00:44:37.21\00:44:38.54
they get discouraged, you know,
00:44:38.57\00:44:39.91
they're talking
to those out there
00:44:39.94\00:44:41.28
that have these firm beliefs
that their church teaches
00:44:41.31\00:44:43.85
and they're trying
to share their own truth
00:44:43.88\00:44:45.31
but they can't hear them.
00:44:45.35\00:44:46.68
They can't see them.
00:44:46.72\00:44:48.15
And it's just
so foreign to them.
00:44:48.18\00:44:52.35
This topic
friends you might conclude
00:44:52.39\00:44:54.96
that if the amount of
time that we've already passed,
00:44:54.99\00:44:57.63
we're not going to
cover it in one program.
00:44:57.66\00:44:59.59
We're gonna do it
in a practical way.
00:44:59.63\00:45:00.96
We can't cover
every detail either so...
00:45:01.00\00:45:02.83
We're gonna try to do
justice to this program
00:45:02.86\00:45:04.50
but one other things
00:45:04.53\00:45:05.87
that we wanna
really point out is that,
00:45:05.90\00:45:09.30
the enemy is patient.
00:45:09.34\00:45:12.07
What is existing today
under the cloak of Christianity
00:45:12.11\00:45:15.18
and the beautiful
buildings and the cathedrals
00:45:15.21\00:45:16.78
and the large worship
centres, um, is a well crafted,
00:45:16.81\00:45:21.58
well thought out
plan of deception.
00:45:21.62\00:45:24.75
That was crafted in the minds
00:45:24.79\00:45:27.79
of the archenemy himself, Satan,
00:45:27.82\00:45:30.53
who always resisted
the advance of the truth.
00:45:30.56\00:45:33.26
He chose the fourth beast
of Daniel, the Church of Rome,
00:45:33.29\00:45:38.43
first of all, pagan
Rome, then papal Rome,
00:45:38.47\00:45:41.20
then Roman Catholicism today.
00:45:41.24\00:45:43.61
He, through that power,
the Bible made it clear,
00:45:43.64\00:45:46.88
they will think to
change times and laws.
00:45:46.91\00:45:50.25
We're the saints
of the most high,
00:45:50.28\00:45:51.81
persecute the
saints of the most high.
00:45:51.85\00:45:54.08
So all the descriptions
00:45:54.12\00:45:55.45
in the Bible and
Daniel, they fulfill.
00:45:55.48\00:45:58.09
And it was out of that power
00:45:58.12\00:45:59.45
that these seeds
began to be planted
00:45:59.49\00:46:01.32
and then other people came on
00:46:01.36\00:46:03.29
and took the
torch and carried it.
00:46:03.32\00:46:05.49
And what we have today now,
00:46:05.53\00:46:06.86
in the categorization of
law, grace, the covenants,
00:46:06.90\00:46:09.16
the rapture, the Second Coming,
00:46:09.20\00:46:10.63
all these which we've
covered in greater detail,
00:46:10.67\00:46:13.10
what we wanna do in
this particular program
00:46:13.13\00:46:15.80
is point out that,
we wanna point out,
00:46:15.84\00:46:19.11
how it is in contrast
to what the Bible teaches.
00:46:19.14\00:46:23.31
And the contrasting
part is so significant.
00:46:23.35\00:46:25.48
I mean, I have in front of me
00:46:25.51\00:46:27.98
how, Francisco
Ribeiro past off the scene
00:46:28.02\00:46:33.82
another Jesuit by the name
of Saint Robert Bellarmine,
00:46:33.86\00:46:38.66
he was in an Italian Jesuit.
00:46:38.69\00:46:41.06
He was one of the most important
00:46:41.10\00:46:42.53
counter
reformation contributors.
00:46:42.56\00:46:44.20
But when he past off the
scene, a doctor, S. R. Matlin,
00:46:44.23\00:46:47.40
the archbishop of
Canterbury in 1593,
00:46:47.44\00:46:51.34
he was the one that kept
these all ancient manuscripts
00:46:51.37\00:46:54.91
which that's how
it got access to,
00:46:54.94\00:46:58.05
a man by the name
of Manuel Lacunza.
00:46:58.08\00:47:00.75
He was the other
Jesuit from Chile.
00:47:00.78\00:47:02.62
And this
continued, witting his way
00:47:02.65\00:47:04.39
all the way through Christendom
00:47:04.42\00:47:06.09
until, we heard of
Reverent Edward Irwing.
00:47:06.12\00:47:11.83
He was another reformer
00:47:11.86\00:47:13.43
that founded the
Catholic apostolic church.
00:47:13.46\00:47:16.06
But, and then Margaret McDonald
in 1815, she was one that,
00:47:16.10\00:47:21.20
she was known as the visionary.
00:47:21.24\00:47:22.60
She brought at the table.
So we continue this as a track.
00:47:22.64\00:47:25.21
And we'll talk about how
it got from her till to today
00:47:25.24\00:47:29.14
where one of the, one
of the weakest positions
00:47:29.18\00:47:32.15
of dispensationalism was this.
00:47:32.18\00:47:37.02
Many of the
proponents of dispensationalism
00:47:37.05\00:47:41.19
sought support of the Judaism,
00:47:41.22\00:47:45.16
they saw Judaist support.
00:47:45.19\00:47:48.33
And when day didn't have
it, they felt that their theory
00:47:48.36\00:47:52.53
could not have gained
as much ground as it did.
00:47:52.57\00:47:55.90
And so what they did was
00:47:55.94\00:47:57.27
they advance their
teachings under names
00:47:57.31\00:47:59.87
that was
associated with Jewish writers
00:47:59.91\00:48:03.71
but Jewish writers
had nothing to do with it.
00:48:03.75\00:48:05.68
It's like me saying,
my name is John Lomacang
00:48:05.71\00:48:09.45
but I'll just say
00:48:09.48\00:48:10.82
for the purpose
of advancing a theory
00:48:10.85\00:48:12.45
that is not
support by scripture,
00:48:12.49\00:48:13.99
I'll call myself
a Reverent Ben Ezra.
00:48:14.02\00:48:18.23
Ben Ezra?
00:48:18.26\00:48:19.59
And then you read
it and you'll say,
00:48:19.63\00:48:20.96
hey, we've got Jewish support
00:48:21.00\00:48:22.96
because we're reading
Rabbi Ben Ezra's writings.
00:48:23.00\00:48:26.70
When in fact all of
this was John Lomacang
00:48:26.74\00:48:28.77
that took
Reverent Ben Ezra's name,
00:48:28.80\00:48:31.64
or Rabbi Ben Ezra's name
and added to that document.
00:48:31.67\00:48:34.34
And that's what
they classically did
00:48:34.38\00:48:35.74
for the advancement of
this dispensational view
00:48:35.78\00:48:37.81
that we have today.
00:48:37.85\00:48:39.25
So this dive into it, John,
00:48:39.28\00:48:40.62
because we've
laid some foundation
00:48:40.65\00:48:42.05
that to those
who may be watching,
00:48:42.08\00:48:44.95
they maybe doing
right now the dog whistle.
00:48:44.99\00:48:47.26
You know the dog
whistle is? Yeah.
00:48:47.29\00:48:48.66
We don't hear but
the dog go, 'huh.'
00:48:48.69\00:48:50.89
You know and I think
as we launch into it,
00:48:50.93\00:48:53.09
what we saw here as the
Lord do is the final push
00:48:53.13\00:48:56.87
of the protestant reformation
00:48:56.90\00:48:58.33
is when that 1800
period came around,
00:48:58.37\00:49:00.97
specifically the
latter part of the 1830s,
00:49:01.00\00:49:03.24
in about 1840 you
had this dispensational,
00:49:03.27\00:49:07.38
this growing dispensationalism
kind of run into face-to-face,
00:49:07.41\00:49:11.81
almost fist-to-fist
00:49:11.85\00:49:13.62
with the
reformers views once again
00:49:13.65\00:49:16.38
that were rising
the power, that came,
00:49:16.42\00:49:17.89
and were proclaimed
00:49:17.92\00:49:19.25
by William Miller
and the Millerites.
00:49:19.29\00:49:21.19
And then of course
became Sabbatarian Adventist,
00:49:21.22\00:49:24.13
and then the
Seventh-day Adventist church
00:49:24.16\00:49:25.49
grew out of that.
00:49:25.53\00:49:26.86
So you see the
Seventh-day Adventist church
00:49:26.90\00:49:29.06
in a clear line
that is in opposition
00:49:29.10\00:49:31.53
to the dispensational view
00:49:31.57\00:49:33.50
because, and
here's why I say that
00:49:33.54\00:49:35.00
because when William
Millar began to preach
00:49:35.04\00:49:37.64
that the Jesus was about
to come and end all things.
00:49:37.67\00:49:40.78
Remember, the
cleansing of the sanctuary
00:49:40.81\00:49:42.48
was the cleansing
of the earth by fire.
00:49:42.51\00:49:44.38
That was so for into the ears
00:49:44.41\00:49:46.38
and to those within
the church is a bad day,
00:49:46.41\00:49:48.82
because what they believe
00:49:48.85\00:49:50.19
was a thousand
years of millennial peace.
00:49:50.22\00:49:53.56
That's right.
00:49:53.59\00:49:54.92
They had come to
believe that when Jesus came,
00:49:54.96\00:49:57.79
he was coming up to
setup his kingdom on earth
00:49:57.83\00:49:59.69
and to rule from Jerusalem.
00:49:59.73\00:50:02.73
And so you have these two views
00:50:02.76\00:50:06.80
that were
running into each other
00:50:06.84\00:50:08.64
and they're
still the same today.
00:50:08.67\00:50:10.87
Right.
00:50:10.91\00:50:12.24
The views of dispensationalism,
00:50:12.27\00:50:13.68
this growing
dispensational movement
00:50:13.71\00:50:15.24
have continued to
advance and then you have
00:50:15.28\00:50:17.05
the Seventh-day
Adventist church,
00:50:17.08\00:50:18.41
which continues to hold
the mantra of protestants,
00:50:18.45\00:50:20.85
and the Reformers continue
to advance and grow as well.
00:50:20.88\00:50:24.32
And this two systems
are clashing once again.
00:50:24.35\00:50:26.69
So as we go for these things,
when we talk about the two,
00:50:26.72\00:50:30.06
the biblical view and
the dispensational view,
00:50:30.09\00:50:32.59
you'll understand
where they're coming from
00:50:32.63\00:50:34.13
and their aligns
throughout history.
00:50:34.16\00:50:36.53
And the reason
why one is more valid
00:50:36.56\00:50:38.83
than the other is not just
00:50:38.87\00:50:40.20
because they
compare theory with theory.
00:50:40.24\00:50:41.90
That somebody say,
"Well, how do I believe you?
00:50:41.94\00:50:44.71
How do I believe you?"
00:50:44.74\00:50:47.18
The Adventist church,
Seventh-day Adventist church
00:50:47.21\00:50:48.88
has gone back to the original,
00:50:48.91\00:50:51.55
the original claims
of the early reformers,
00:50:51.58\00:50:54.05
Sola scriptura, which is?
00:50:54.08\00:50:55.92
The bible and the Bible alone.
00:50:55.95\00:50:57.32
If the bible doesn't
support it, don't accept it.
00:50:57.35\00:51:00.66
That's the clearest indication
that it's just a theory.
00:51:00.69\00:51:04.73
Theories without
the support of scripture
00:51:04.76\00:51:06.16
is that's all there.
00:51:06.19\00:51:07.53
And don't believe
just because someone says,
00:51:07.56\00:51:08.90
"Well, I go to a
Bible believing church."
00:51:08.93\00:51:10.77
You know, my non
denominal church,
00:51:10.80\00:51:12.43
we believe in the Bible.
00:51:12.47\00:51:14.57
Make sure it's practiced,
it's not just they say they do,
00:51:14.60\00:51:18.71
make sure it's practiced.
00:51:18.74\00:51:20.08
And sometimes, you
know, on House Calls
00:51:20.11\00:51:21.44
we hear some
people write in and say,
00:51:21.48\00:51:22.88
"You know, you focus so much
on these specific teachings."
00:51:22.91\00:51:26.55
Well, these are the
ones that are being attacked
00:51:26.58\00:51:28.18
by the dispensational view.
00:51:28.22\00:51:29.55
Right.
00:51:29.58\00:51:30.92
So we're
defending the word of God.
00:51:30.95\00:51:33.42
And that is the working out,
00:51:33.46\00:51:34.86
the practice of us standing
00:51:34.89\00:51:36.93
in the bible
and the bible alone.
00:51:36.96\00:51:38.29
Right.
00:51:38.33\00:51:39.66
So let's go through, start
with some other things here,
00:51:39.69\00:51:41.13
and let's start
with law and grace.
00:51:41.16\00:51:42.50
Okay.
00:51:42.53\00:51:43.87
Well, lets say, you
know, what I like us to do
00:51:43.90\00:51:45.77
because we have
it in front of us,
00:51:45.80\00:51:47.14
so it be nice for us to
read the dispensational summary
00:51:47.17\00:51:51.11
and then share
the Biblical summary.
00:51:51.14\00:51:53.01
Okay.
00:51:53.04\00:51:54.38
So why don't you do
the dispensational summary
00:51:54.41\00:51:56.71
then read the biblical
summary then we give this...
00:51:56.75\00:51:59.11
Oh, you get the
biblical one, I get the this...
00:51:59.15\00:52:01.48
Well, the way
that, the kind of you...
00:52:01.52\00:52:05.39
Okay.
00:52:05.42\00:52:06.76
Here we go,
dispensational view of law,
00:52:06.79\00:52:08.26
we're gonna start with law.
00:52:08.29\00:52:10.09
There are two
dispensations in the Bible,
00:52:10.13\00:52:12.33
the Old Testament
period is an the era of law.
00:52:12.36\00:52:15.90
Israel was required to
keep the law to be saved.
00:52:15.93\00:52:18.70
Right.
00:52:18.73\00:52:20.07
So in other words
what they are saying
00:52:20.10\00:52:21.44
is in the Old
Testament, there was no grace
00:52:21.47\00:52:23.41
it was all law,
law, law, law, law.
00:52:23.44\00:52:25.31
And that was the, the
condition for salvation.
00:52:25.34\00:52:29.38
Right.
00:52:29.41\00:52:30.75
For the Jews and
for Israel way back
00:52:30.78\00:52:33.11
was law keeping.
00:52:33.15\00:52:34.48
But here is a scriptural view.
00:52:34.52\00:52:36.12
A God's law is still
authoritative and binding,
00:52:36.15\00:52:39.22
Christians do not
keep them to be safe
00:52:39.25\00:52:42.19
but because they are saved.
00:52:42.22\00:52:44.23
Obedience is an
expression of love for God.
00:52:44.26\00:52:49.40
And so I almost wanna use,
00:52:49.43\00:52:52.13
well, John 14:15,
clearly is the text
00:52:52.17\00:52:54.57
that has so
much power behind it.
00:52:54.60\00:52:57.91
"If you love me
keep my commandments."
00:52:57.94\00:53:00.58
You know, John, when we go
00:53:00.61\00:53:01.94
to this first
dispensational view about Law,
00:53:01.98\00:53:05.51
this idea that
in the Old Testament
00:53:05.55\00:53:08.12
the law was the most
important focal point
00:53:08.15\00:53:10.42
and now we don't have
to focus on that anymore.
00:53:10.45\00:53:13.25
Many of the
dispensational theologians today
00:53:13.29\00:53:16.73
have done all hey could
discredit the apostle Paul.
00:53:16.76\00:53:20.50
But James the
apostle, creates a quandary
00:53:20.53\00:53:24.17
because James
chimes in a minimal way
00:53:24.20\00:53:29.40
but it's like he,
00:53:29.44\00:53:31.04
his small book of Book of James
00:53:31.07\00:53:34.44
has buttressed all
that Paul has written
00:53:34.48\00:53:37.28
in the many books
that he has authored.
00:53:37.31\00:53:39.65
Because if you can
get rid of Paul, and say,
00:53:39.68\00:53:42.28
well, Paul had
issues, Paul had problems,
00:53:42.32\00:53:44.32
and this is sad that
I've heard theologians say,
00:53:44.35\00:53:46.55
well, Paul didn't like
women that's why he said
00:53:46.59\00:53:50.43
what he did about
women in 1 Corinthians 11.
00:53:50.46\00:53:55.10
Paul had problem with this.
00:53:55.13\00:53:56.87
But when James
chimes in, all the sudden,
00:53:56.90\00:53:59.90
and then John the apostle chimes
00:53:59.93\00:54:01.50
in again in the last book,
the last chapter of the Bible,
00:54:01.54\00:54:05.67
they don't have
any leg to stand on.
00:54:05.71\00:54:07.34
So now go to Revelation 22,
00:54:07.38\00:54:10.78
and matter of fact,
Revelation a few places.
00:54:10.81\00:54:13.95
Revelation 22, you begin there
00:54:13.98\00:54:16.45
then Revelation
14:12, that's another one.
00:54:16.48\00:54:19.29
But I am gonna go
to the Book of James,
00:54:19.32\00:54:22.12
because James is the one
00:54:22.16\00:54:23.76
that throws this
wrench or the shavings
00:54:23.79\00:54:28.30
in the engine of the idea
00:54:28.33\00:54:29.66
that the law
doesn't have to be kept.
00:54:29.70\00:54:31.77
All right.
00:54:31.80\00:54:33.13
Revelation 22:14,
you know that one.
00:54:33.17\00:54:36.30
And this is by the way,
00:54:36.34\00:54:37.81
this is the last
book of the Bible,
00:54:37.84\00:54:39.64
this is the book of prophecy,
00:54:39.67\00:54:41.01
revelation that's
never been sealed.
00:54:41.04\00:54:42.38
Yeah.
00:54:42.41\00:54:43.75
So listen to what it
says in reference to the idea
00:54:43.78\00:54:46.31
that the law doesn't
have to be kept any longer.
00:54:46.35\00:54:48.65
" Blessed are those
who do His commandments,
00:54:48.68\00:54:50.39
that they may have the
right to the tree of life,
00:54:50.42\00:54:52.92
and may enter through
the gates into the city."
00:54:52.95\00:54:54.89
Okay.
00:54:54.92\00:54:56.26
So the last book of the Bible,
00:54:56.29\00:54:57.63
the last chapter in
the last book of the Bible,
00:54:57.66\00:55:01.46
verse 14.
00:55:01.50\00:55:02.83
So its says
clearly, blessed are those
00:55:02.86\00:55:04.90
that keep his commandments.
00:55:04.93\00:55:06.84
Now what does
that do with the idea
00:55:06.87\00:55:08.77
that command keeping
was only for the Israelites
00:55:08.80\00:55:10.97
in the Old Testament.
00:55:11.01\00:55:12.34
That blows out of the water.
00:55:12.37\00:55:13.98
And the keeping
of the commandments,
00:55:14.01\00:55:15.88
blessed are those who keep them,
00:55:15.91\00:55:17.51
I think hinges on this word too,
00:55:17.55\00:55:19.45
this verse, blessed.
00:55:19.48\00:55:20.85
Right.
00:55:20.88\00:55:22.22
The commandments were not given
00:55:22.25\00:55:24.55
to those who
were not God's people.
00:55:24.59\00:55:27.36
Right.
00:55:27.39\00:55:28.72
The commandments
were given to people
00:55:28.76\00:55:30.19
who already belong to God.
00:55:30.23\00:55:32.03
Right.
00:55:32.06\00:55:33.40
They weren't trying to be saved,
00:55:33.43\00:55:36.33
it's because they were saved
00:55:36.36\00:55:37.83
that God gave
them his commandments.
00:55:37.87\00:55:40.57
I love Ellen White says,
00:55:40.60\00:55:42.77
she says, God
has given his laws,
00:55:42.80\00:55:45.57
ten commandments
as a hedge of protect,
00:55:45.61\00:55:48.01
a wall of
protection around his people.
00:55:48.04\00:55:51.45
And I, if we think
of that in those terms,
00:55:51.48\00:55:55.58
we abide in the
safety of the commandments
00:55:55.62\00:55:58.19
because we are saved,
00:55:58.22\00:56:00.26
not because we're
trying to be saved.
00:56:00.29\00:56:02.02
And this is the misnomer,
00:56:02.06\00:56:03.39
these are the threats,
these are the allegations
00:56:03.43\00:56:05.23
thrown at commandment
keepers that I think are so,
00:56:05.26\00:56:10.07
they are readily accepted
today but just not true.
00:56:10.10\00:56:12.57
Yeah, they are not true at all.
00:56:12.60\00:56:13.94
James, this is the
text that throws the wrench,
00:56:13.97\00:56:17.21
theologians don't
know what to do with this,
00:56:17.24\00:56:18.71
they can't get rid of it.
00:56:18.74\00:56:20.08
James 2:10-12,
00:56:20.11\00:56:21.58
"For whoever shall
keep the whole law,
00:56:21.61\00:56:24.58
and yet shall
stumble in one point
00:56:24.61\00:56:26.01
he is guilty of all."
00:56:26.05\00:56:27.62
And look at the
law he refers to,
00:56:27.65\00:56:29.05
"For he who said do
not commit adultery,
00:56:29.08\00:56:30.92
the ten commandments,
00:56:30.95\00:56:32.29
also says do not
murder, the ten commandments,
00:56:32.32\00:56:34.42
but if you do commit
adultery but do not murder
00:56:34.46\00:56:36.83
you have become a
transgressor of the Law."
00:56:36.86\00:56:39.16
And verse 12, "So
speak and so do as those
00:56:39.19\00:56:43.20
who be judged by
the law of liberty
00:56:43.23\00:56:45.57
not a law of bondage."
00:56:45.60\00:56:48.37
See?
00:56:48.40\00:56:49.74
Yeah, all of the
writers in the New Testament
00:56:49.77\00:56:52.31
keep referring
to the commandments
00:56:52.34\00:56:53.91
as the original said.
00:56:53.94\00:56:55.28
Right.
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There is no Jesus'
commandments separate
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from the ten
commandments on Mount Sinai.
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These are the commandments,
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they are consistent commandments
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throughout the bible.
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And it's just
an amazing thought.
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I wish we had time to go
into depth in these things.
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But I think just on a surface
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that would answer
in regard to the law.
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And so we're saying here
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that the
commandments of the God,
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as John made so clear,
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are given to
those who love the Lord.
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"If you love me,
keep my commandments."
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Those who honour that by love
for God will be in the kingdom.
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There'll be no law break
because in God's kingdom.
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So today, give
your heart to Christ
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and you'll be ready
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for that great and glorious day.
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God Bless you.
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