Hello, friends, grab your
Bible and a friend and sit back
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as we explore
God's word together
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on this edition
of "House Calls."
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Welcome, to the place.
This is the place, that's right.
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We have a Bible and you have
questions, this is the place.
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And my name is John
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and to my right is
another derivative of me.
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His name is also John.
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He is borrowing this
name for the program.
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Not actually, how are
you doing, John Stanton?
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Yeah, I'm doing
good. You're doing good?
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I'm doing good.
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You're relaxing in
the Pacific Northwest?
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Yes, yes, we're
doing very good up there
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and enjoying how
God is using us. Good.
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As we all should be
enjoying how God is using us.
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That's right. And
it's a blessing everyday.
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And it's especially fun
to have this time to get away
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and to do this program.
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That's right. It
is truly enjoyable.
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This is what happens
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when New York and
California comes together.
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We both have
the same beginnings,
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we both start of the same name,
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and here we are
on the same program
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for the glory of the Lord.
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You know what you need to do?
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You need certain
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A Bible, a pen, a
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and we'll tell you
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But for the next hour
we're going to really enjoy
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walking through
the Bible together.
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Thank you, for tuning in.
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If you're joining
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praise the Lord that you've
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If you buy yourself
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you're gonna want
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what we talk
about on this program.
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Bible questions as
well as the Bible topic.
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Before we do anything
though we always like to pray
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and I know that you
know who is gonna pray.
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Let's go, let's go and pray.
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Father in heaven, we
come before You again
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asking for a
special blessing today.
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A blessing upon this program,
upon all that we, we say and do.
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And as we study Your word,
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Lord we know it
brings a blessing.
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That's right.
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But we, we are confident that
You will send Your spirit Lord
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to make sure that You
rightly divide the word of truth
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and that, it may be
powerful and strengthening
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to the lives of those who hear.
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In Jesus name we pray, amen.
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Amen. You know
you have questions,
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I have a question,
many of you have questions.
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I get all kinds of questions.
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But if you have anything
that's going around in your head
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and you want to go
ahead and send that to us.
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If you're driving
in your car please,
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don't try to send us
a question right now.
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But if you have an email
that you like to sent to us
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send it to this
following addressing,
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housecalls@3abn.org.
That's housecalls@3abn.org,
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that's the portal
to sending us questions
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and we've got
questions I tell you,
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we have to go through that list
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and
periodically sort through it.
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And John, you know
what even the advertisers
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have now found our email. Yes.
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And we're starting to
filter through that too.
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So try to be
concise into the point
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and we surely do
appreciate everything you do.
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But John tends to get the chance
to start out with the question.
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And today we're not
gonna break the trend.
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So John, what
do you have for us?
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We have got a question
here from Charlie, from Charlie.
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Looks like that he
writes from Pennsylvania
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and he has a question.
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He says-- first
of all he thoroughly
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enjoys our program.
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And then we need to increase
it to two times per week.
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And we'll thank you
for supporting the program.
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We appreciate all of that.
And especially, your prayers.
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And anyway so he wants some,
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some help with something
that he is being doing.
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He said, he recently went online
to a Catholic forum to enquire
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why they follow
certain practices.
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And so anyway they asked
that he when he asked questions
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he connects it
into their catechism
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and so he tries to do that.
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But he is asking us
and asking us for answers
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from the Bible to
a couple of issues.
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And he says
here, I wanted to know
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why they have statues of
Mary, Paul, Peter et cetera
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when it goes against
the Ten Commandments.
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No graven images.
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They say they do
not worship the statues
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but they're there to help us
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to get closer to
God and remind us.
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Also, they insist
the second commandment
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is kept in their
list of commandments.
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I thought they were eliminated.
They had eliminated the second.
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By the way it's
the old translation
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that they use to
use they eliminated
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the second commandment.
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When you look at the
Bible that they have currently
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that they use most
often it is as written saying
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and in one of the modern
translations or even King James,
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New King James version.
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So, it is not
eliminated from those,
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from that new one or at
least the one they've used
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most prevalently
here over the few years.
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I wanted to know,
and this is their part.
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I wanted to know why
they pray to the saints,
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Mary and Paul, et cetera.
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They told me that
prayer is not worship
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and that they're
simply asking the saints
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to intercede for them only.
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I see further they
want me to prove to them
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their prayer equals worship
because they dispute that.
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So this is on the forum
that this, that Charlie is on.
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So he needs our
help and so hopefully
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we can provide a few
passages-- if you--things
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from the word of
God in regard to that.
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You know, the first
issue he mentioned here
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was the issue of graven images.
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So why not we go there
to the second commandment
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and we'll find that
in Exodus Chapter 20.
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Okay.
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Exodus Chapter 20 and I'm gonna
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read verse 4 through 6.
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"You shall not make for
yourself a carved image,
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any likeness of anything
that is in heaven above,
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or that is in the earth beneath,
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or that is in the
water under the earth.
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You shall not bow down
to them nor serve them,
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for I the Lord your
God am a jealous God,
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visiting the iniquity of
the fathers upon the children
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to the third and the
fourth generation of those
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who hate me but showing
mercy to thousands to those
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who love me and
keep my commandments."
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All right. So the issue here
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that the
commandments specifically says,
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"You shall not make" number one
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"make yourself a
carved image or graven image.
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Any likeness of
anything that is in heaven above
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or that is in
the earth beneath."
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And the second thing
is the qualifier here.
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It says "You shall not bow
down to them or serve them."
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This translation,
this is specifically say,
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"You shall not bow
down and worship them."
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But I know that
some translations
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I believe do use the
word 'worship' there.
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But the question then
is, is it okay to allow
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a carved or graven
image to be used for--
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for religious purposes.
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And secondly is
it okay to bow down
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before those graven images.
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And according
to this commandment
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from what I understand
little reading here, it is not.
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Right its not.
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To make a carved image
that represents anything
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and then to bow down
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before even outside
of the active worship.
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But to bow down
before and pray before it
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and even use
anything carved or graven
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in the active
prayer is contradictory,
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contradictory to the
command here in God's word
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the second commandment.
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And so I don't know they
may, it may be that they want
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to talk a little
around that to try and say
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that they don't do it
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but in fact, this is
exactly what happens.
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And I don't know the
form nature on Charlie
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is going to obviously be
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defensive of the practices
of the Catholic Church.
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And that is reasonable to
assume and reasonable to expect
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because obviously
they establish that form.
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And they're gonna
answer that question
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in the best way they know.
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They're not going to
say well, you got us.
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We're doing it oops.
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They're gonna
explain that and we all,
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you know, in
every area of our lives
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we can tend to
rationalize things
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that we want to do rather than
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just following the word of God.
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But God does call for
us as Disciples of Christ
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to follow His word
and reading of His word
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the second
commandment specifically says
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"don't make a carved image
and don't bow down before it."
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And that's exactly
what happens there.
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So anyway I know, you
know, if you have anything way
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in on that
specifically, John. Go ahead.
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Well, I'm looking actually
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at the Convert's
Catechism of the Catholic,
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of the Catholic Church,
the 1995 edition commissioned
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by Pope John Paul II.
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And lot of times we are in
desires of making a statement
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but sometimes it's
always good to find out
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from the actual
writing themselves,
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what the approach is.
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Well, first of
all, one of the things
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we do know from the practicing
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and I just want to
say this for the record.
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Majority of my
family is catholic,
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99% of them are catholic.
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And Catholicism is replete
with saints, with images.
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You know, at the entrance
of many Catholic Churches
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is the statue of Mary
and in her hand a replica
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or as it is said "Baby Jesus."
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And I have pictures
of priests and popes
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and usually when people
traditionally or entering
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a Catholic Church
did stop at the statue.
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They don't call it worshipping,
they call it venerating.
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And when you look at
this term venerating to me
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as I looked at and
read through the definitions
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that are often put here.
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Let me go ahead and
read, read this here.
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I want to go ahead
just hit it on the here.
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Okay, it says, "The
divine injection included
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the prohibition of
every representation of God
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by the hand of man.
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Since you saw no form and
the day of Lord spoke to you."
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It says, "It is
absolutely transcendent the God
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who reveals Himself to Israel.
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'He is in all'
but at the same time
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he is greater
than all his works.
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Nevertheless,
already the Old Testament,
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God ordained or
permitted the making of images
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that pointed
symbolically towards salvation
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by the incarnate word."
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So it was with
the bronze serpent
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in the Ark of the
Covenant the cherubim.
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And so what is, what
is being done here is,
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there seems to be an
attempt to justify sins.
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The Lord says, look at
the bronze serpent and live.
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The Ark of the Covenant,
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the cherubim's that
were on the mercy seat
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these weren't images of worship,
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that's what this commandment
prohibits the images of worship
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bowing down to them or
even use the word venerating.
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And so I would say
clearly one of the reasons
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why this
commandment is often minimized
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is when you have a religion
that replete with images.
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Then there will be some,
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there would some
justification as to,
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yes we do have permission
to bow down to these images.
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Yes we do have permission
to worship to these images.
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But as far beyond just
bowing down to these images
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is acknowledging that
these images have power.
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Let me give you an
example and once again use this
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in the context of my
family being Catholic.
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When we bow down,
when they bow down
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to Mary or pray to
Mary, that's the very thing
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that is being prohibited
by these commandments.
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You know, when you say,
"Holy Mary mother of God.
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Pray for sinners now and
at the hour of their death."
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Well, who you are praying to.
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A person that doesn't exist.
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But the, but the
suggestion is being made
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that she does exist through
the replication of this image.
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So that's being
prohibited by God's word.
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That is prohibited in
the second commandment.
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Not making any graven
images. Not bowing down to them.
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Not serving them and
not even venerating them.
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From what I understand
too in the word of God
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I can't remember what
they exactly they call it
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but they destroyed
an image that was used
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before was that
the bronze serpent
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that was used before.
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They destroyed it
because later on people started
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to venerate it in
the scriptures Israel.
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And so they specifically
went after that image
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to destroy--what's
it? It starts with 'N'.
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May be I should
not bother about that.
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But anyway there is a
specific thing that was,
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that was part of the
experience of the Israelites
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in the wilderness.
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But as it went
forward it was destroyed
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because the people in the
temple services later on started
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to treat it as Holy and
to "venerate that thing".
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So, even the Bible has
said to eliminate that,
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eliminated that because the
practice led to false worship.
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And something that
should not have been
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part of the worship
experience. And anyway--
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And one of the
things that was really
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prohibited by the
Lord and Isaiah the prophet
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just really spoke
against it. He spoke about
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images having eyes
but they cannot see,
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having ears but
they cannot hear,
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having hands but
they cannot touch.
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This was strictly
prohibited in the Bible.
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So when the Bible says
"not to make any graven images
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or any likeness of
anything in the heaven above
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for that is in
the earth beneath."
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The Bible really does mean that.
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We have to prohibit ourselves
from walking in that path
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and participating in
these kinds of practices.
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I want to put
another word in here
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and see what I come up
with. We have a question,
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that's very
interesting question.
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You know,
what's happen nowadays,
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this is so indicative
of where we are headed
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as world is concerned.
What about the use of herbs?
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Right now John we know
in the State of California,
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in the State of Colorado
and I think some other states
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in our nation are
legalizing the use of marijuana.
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And all kinds of justifications
are being added to that.
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But the question is, if God says
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that we can use
seed bearing plants.
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What about marijuana and cocaine
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they are both
seed bearing or derived
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from a seed bearing plant?
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Both have medicinal use,
both have medicinal uses too.
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Can you give me
the Bibles stance?
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Well, let me show
you where the Bible
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talked about these
herbs bearing seeds
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and put in the
context of exactly
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what the Lord suggested
these were to be used for.
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One of the first places
we find in Geneis Chapter 1
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and I'm gonna look at
two particular places,
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Genesis 1:11 and
then Genesis 1:29, 30.
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Genesis 1:11, 12
and Genesis 1:29, 30.
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Here's Genesis
1:11. "Then God said,
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'Let the earth
bring forth grass,
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the herb that yields seed,
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and the fruit tree that yields
fruit according to its kind,
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whose seed is in itself,
on the earth,' and it was so.
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And the earth
brought forth grass,
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the herb that yields
seed according to its kind,
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and the tree that yields
fruit, whose seed is in itself
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according to its kind.
And God saw that it was good."
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But then question
was, what did God design
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these herbs to be used
for? Let's look at here.
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Verse 29 "And God said,
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See, I have given you
every herb that yields seed
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which is on the
face of all the earth,
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and every tree
whose fruit yields seed,
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to you it shall be for food."
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When you look at
the original diet
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and lot of times and
this is also illustrates.
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Let me read verse 30 and
just expand even further.
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"Also, to every
beast of the earth,
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to every bird of the
air, and to everything
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that creeps on the
earth, in which there is life,
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I have given every green
herb for food and it was so."
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So you have the fruit,
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you have the
grains you have the nuts.
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These categorizations
were in Genesis 1:29, 30.
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These
categorizations were for food.
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But now when you look at this
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and let me use it great example.
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I'm partly away from
marijuana and cocaine
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for a brief moment.
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Because I know
growing up in the generation
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that I grew up in
the 80s generation,
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80s early 90s generation
like be the little younger than
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I am really actually.
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But I remember
the early generations
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when marijuana
was something that
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you get thrown in
jail instantly for.
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Now marijuana is
seen as medicinal
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in some of its
respects and truly it does have
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some medicinal qualities.
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But for the most
part the use of marijuana
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never came into
existence for medicinal purposes
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but for the purpose
of another way of gaining
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a high the way
that was use back in,
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back in the day.
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I don't know-- had
you ever used marijuana?
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I think you'd mentioned
something like that growing up.
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Yep, growing up.
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The Lord
delivered you from that.
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Now I never used it
but I was in a condition
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once I down in the south I
was invited to go down there.
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There were some friends
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and I was sitting in
the car in South Carolina
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and the windows
were closed on the car.
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And all of my friends
were smoking marijuana
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and they were trying
to get me to smoke it.
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And here I'm sitting
in a smoke filled car,
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smoke filled car
and I'm saying I'm not,
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I'm not going to, I refused.
I'm not gonna take a puff.
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I refused and I'm
sitting in a cloud of marijuana.
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And so as I, as I
fast forward today,
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I was being
inundated by of second hand
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smoke of the marijuana.
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I was not necessarily smoking
it directly as pulling it in.
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But if you're in a
cloud and you're breathing
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which I was for that 20
minutes we were in that car
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I was surely
inhaling all of that.
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When God spoke about the
herbs that are being used
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they're medicinal
uses for these things
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but not in the way
that is being used today.
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Cocaine they're
certain drugs that have
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some of these
medicinal qualities in it
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but it's not being used to
injecting in a persons vein
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or to snort out of a
person's nose the way
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that it's being used
in our society today.
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So as, as we look at the
way it's used in society today
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this is not the prescription
that God has given to it
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anymore than he is caused
people to use hops or barley
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for the purpose of making
beer and intoxicating a person.
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So what I'm saying here?
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The very thing
that God has created
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for the purpose of strength
and using medicinal purposes
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is being distorted
by humanity to be made,
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to give a person a
high and intoxication or to,
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or to inebriate an
individual there by
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the misuse of the of the
seeds that bear herbs of the,
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of the plants that produce
barley and hops that are,
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that have a good quality.
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If I had barley
bread that's a good thing
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but if I'm using
barley to make beer
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which is used very much today
that's the inappropriate use
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of what God is
created for medicinal purposes
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and for healthy reasons.
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So, I don't see that
God is putting is His stamp
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or support on the use
of marijuana or cocaine
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the way that is being
used in society today.
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Because, in fact, not
only, is it, not only is it,
00:20:08.42\00:20:11.10
breaking down the
strength of the human body
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but its used for the
purpose of intoxication
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and the regardless of how
many individuals says that,
00:20:16.99\00:20:21.72
hey I use this for
medicinal purposes.
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So I don't know, do you
have thoughts on that, John?
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Well the other thing,
the other thing that's done
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as it's just broken
down and boiled down
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or whatever cooked
down a very condensed form.
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All right.
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And we understand
the Bible always says,
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especially when you're
used to-- use of good things
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they should be in moderation.
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I mean, you can't
break something down
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to its condensed form
beyond even these drugs.
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Anything that is
innately healthy to make it
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have a negative
effect on the body.
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And in many respects
when you start smoking
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and putting in things
that are very condensed
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it goes beyond medicinal to
a high that affects the brain
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and begins to destroy cells.
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And that is in essence
not taking care of the body.
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And we call the treat of body
00:21:05.87\00:21:07.23
is the temple
of the Holy Spirit.
00:21:07.26\00:21:09.10
And that altering of
the mind doesn't allow us,
00:21:09.13\00:21:12.64
doesn't allow the spirit to take
control of the mind and to use.
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And for us to be able
to, to commune with him
00:21:16.68\00:21:19.76
and to function
in our life the way
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that he would have us to.
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Now Daniel the prophet used
this the way the God intended.
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When Daniel was in
the province of Babylon
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he asked for
fruits, grains, and nuts.
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He used the herb bearing plants.
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He used that for food and
it made him wiser and healthier
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and his mind was clear.
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But he did not use it
in the context of today
00:21:38.26\00:21:40.57
or where it was used
as marijuana or cocaine.
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He did not use that
to depreciate the quality
00:21:43.15\00:21:46.29
and the strength
of the human body
00:21:46.32\00:21:47.53
the body that God said
that we should not defile.
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That's were modern
society today has taken it off
00:21:50.51\00:21:53.90
into a different
tangent all together rather than
00:21:53.93\00:21:56.88
barley bread
they use to make beer
00:21:56.91\00:21:59.54
and rather than grape
juice it's used to make,
00:21:59.57\00:22:03.78
it's used to
ferment and cause that to be
00:22:03.81\00:22:06.33
a large industry of
alcohol and list goes on and on.
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You know, you lived in
Upper Valley didn't you?
00:22:11.09\00:22:12.79
You lived in
above an Upper Valley.
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That's where I grew up. Yeah.
00:22:13.91\00:22:15.47
You lived right there in England
right above in Upper Valley
00:22:15.50\00:22:17.55
and we lived in Fairfield
closed not too far from Napa.
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A complete wine industry there.
00:22:20.49\00:22:23.24
I will tell you one
example that illustrates
00:22:23.27\00:22:25.19
the difference between
the way the God intends
00:22:25.22\00:22:27.50
what to be used and the
way the man has used it.
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My wife and I had some
family members we took,
00:22:29.85\00:22:33.36
they wanted to go
to the Napa Valley
00:22:33.39\00:22:35.00
and look at the
all the wineries.
00:22:35.03\00:22:36.74
I was the designated drivers
because I don't drink alcohol.
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We went to one
of the wineries and,
00:22:39.37\00:22:42.27
you know, we drink Martinelli's
00:22:42.30\00:22:43.72
which is grape
juice, sparkling cider.
00:22:43.75\00:22:46.71
No, 'zero alcohol' in it.
00:22:46.74\00:22:49.43
And one of the winery said,
"Hey we have nonalcoholic wines.
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We have nonalcoholic beverages.
00:22:55.20\00:22:57.85
So you could try something too.
00:22:57.88\00:23:00.13
We have peach and we have grape.
00:23:00.16\00:23:02.23
And we said, oh, nonalcoholic
it must be like Martinelli.
00:23:02.26\00:23:05.39
It wasn't. It wasn't.
00:23:08.07\00:23:10.06
It was five percent alcohol.
00:23:10.09\00:23:12.84
No, point five percent.
Point five percent. Yeah.
00:23:12.87\00:23:16.15
Was this anyway,
anyway I want the way home.
00:23:16.18\00:23:18.15
Anything lesser than
the percent they can take,
00:23:18.18\00:23:19.44
they can call nonalcoholic.
00:23:19.47\00:23:21.19
Anyway on the way
home I'm driving home
00:23:21.22\00:23:25.10
and I'm just I'm
thought and to feel like.
00:23:25.13\00:23:29.55
Okay, I you know
and we bought a bottle
00:23:29.58\00:23:32.95
to take home
with us because wow!
00:23:32.98\00:23:35.01
Peach nonalcoholic.
00:23:35.04\00:23:37.38
And I said honey,
did you check that label?
00:23:37.41\00:23:40.71
And we checked it. And
it does have alcohol in it.
00:23:40.74\00:23:43.44
And I thought I
could tell right away.
00:23:43.47\00:23:45.83
It began alter
the way my body felt.
00:23:45.86\00:23:49.18
Alter my and my
body was just totally--
00:23:49.21\00:23:52.70
we don't, you know
we don't drink alcohol
00:23:52.73\00:23:54.69
and we don't smoke
anything like that.
00:23:54.72\00:23:56.00
So the, so the introduction
evident to my system.
00:23:56.03\00:23:58.26
The body is
hypersensitive to it.
00:23:58.29\00:23:59.76
Immediately impact to the
way my mortar skills operate.
00:23:59.79\00:24:02.95
I said let's go to--
what's that little restaurant
00:24:02.98\00:24:06.36
down there they
have burgers and all?
00:24:06.39\00:24:09.66
They sell root beer. Any
way. You mean in Fairfield?
00:24:09.69\00:24:12.95
No down in the Napa Valley area.
00:24:12.98\00:24:14.57
Anyway we
stopped over there until
00:24:14.60\00:24:17.07
the flex--kind
of wore off. Yeah.
00:24:17.10\00:24:19.10
And so we could
drive home safely.
00:24:19.13\00:24:21.36
Anything that alters
the way the body functions
00:24:21.39\00:24:23.47
outside of the
natural use that God intended
00:24:23.50\00:24:26.05
should not be
introduced into the body.
00:24:26.08\00:24:27.96
And I think that's the
safest way to determine
00:24:27.99\00:24:30.96
whether or not God
intends for those things
00:24:30.99\00:24:32.83
that are created
on the earth to be--
00:24:32.86\00:24:35.21
Another way
tobacco is another thing.
00:24:35.24\00:24:37.36
People will say, well what's
the purpose of the tobacco?
00:24:37.39\00:24:38.85
Somebody will
say we're obviously
00:24:38.88\00:24:40.16
God intended for us to smoke it.
00:24:40.19\00:24:42.32
God did not intend
for us to smoke tobacco
00:24:42.35\00:24:44.98
which is the
leading cause of cancer
00:24:45.01\00:24:47.54
in the at least in this nation.
00:24:47.57\00:24:49.85
The leading
cause of lung cancer.
00:24:49.88\00:24:51.65
The smoking and the introduction
00:24:51.68\00:24:53.08
into our bodies of
that poisonous herb.
00:24:53.11\00:24:55.84
So the body is the
temple of the Lord no matter
00:24:55.87\00:24:58.04
how you look at that.
00:24:58.07\00:25:00.05
John, I have one question,
it's a little quicker one.
00:25:00.08\00:25:02.58
Sure. But before I
do on the first remember
00:25:02.61\00:25:05.14
I mentioned that
there was something
00:25:05.17\00:25:06.20
that they had to
destroy the bronze serpent.
00:25:06.23\00:25:07.77
I found the text.
So I want to give that.
00:25:07.80\00:25:10.07
It's 2 Kings 18:4.
00:25:10.10\00:25:13.64
Speaking of, you know,
the destroying by Hezekiah
00:25:13.67\00:25:19.55
destroying in
impersonated temple
00:25:19.58\00:25:20.81
from these idol kinds of things.
00:25:20.84\00:25:22.78
And it says in verse 4
"He removed the high places
00:25:22.81\00:25:25.36
and broke the sacred pillars,
cut down the wooden images
00:25:25.39\00:25:28.64
and broke in
pieces the bronze serpent
00:25:28.67\00:25:31.60
that Moses had
made, for until those days
00:25:31.63\00:25:34.35
the children of
Israel burned incense to it,
00:25:34.38\00:25:36.28
and called it Nehushtan." Wow.
00:25:36.31\00:25:39.35
So they took the bronze serpent
00:25:39.38\00:25:41.38
and they began to
burn incense to it
00:25:41.41\00:25:43.40
and called it Nehushtan.
00:25:43.43\00:25:45.10
They began to
although they wouldn't say it
00:25:45.13\00:25:48.44
was worship
they would disagree--
00:25:48.47\00:25:50.08
we're not worshipping
but they were doing things
00:25:50.11\00:25:51.97
to venerate that serpent
which definitely was against
00:25:52.00\00:25:56.51
the second commandment because,
the king had it destroyed it.
00:25:56.54\00:25:58.87
That's right.
00:25:58.90\00:26:00.00
So anyway that will provide
at least some of the source
00:26:00.03\00:26:02.85
where well, I was well, I
was trying to go before it
00:26:02.88\00:26:04.92
but I couldn't come up
with the text by the way.
00:26:04.95\00:26:06.96
Okay, the last, last question
we have here is from Am,
00:26:06.99\00:26:10.66
and she says
"Dear John and John,
00:26:10.69\00:26:12.02
my husband and I
don't see anything wrong
00:26:12.05\00:26:13.66
with eating
good chicken or fish.
00:26:13.69\00:26:16.25
Even Jesus hate fish and lab.
00:26:16.28\00:26:18.35
Is it necessary to only
eat vegan style to church
00:26:18.38\00:26:22.12
or only to eat vegan style
00:26:22.15\00:26:24.83
at the
Seventh-day Adventist Church?
00:26:24.86\00:26:26.63
The word of God
makes it pretty clear
00:26:26.66\00:26:28.65
that these foods are okay.
00:26:28.68\00:26:29.98
Please comment
on this thank you."
00:26:30.01\00:26:33.21
And from Long
Island. Long Island.
00:26:33.24\00:26:37.15
Yeah, just a
brief comment on this.
00:26:37.18\00:26:40.07
Eating meat from
clean animals is not a sin.
00:26:40.10\00:26:43.73
That's right.
00:26:43.76\00:26:44.80
But the Bible doesn't-- in
no where calls that sinful.
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The Bible does counsel
us to eat a healthful diet.
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And what you found
through our histories
00:26:53.25\00:26:55.54
especially going
back to Israel's times
00:26:55.57\00:26:58.01
that diet was not
heavily based on meat.
00:26:58.04\00:27:01.28
Their animals
were their livelihood.
00:27:01.31\00:27:03.22
It was their income. It
was their source of wealth.
00:27:03.25\00:27:06.04
And they didn't just
eat animals all the time.
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They ate fruits, nuts
and grains and other things
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that came from the earth.
00:27:11.25\00:27:13.12
And so what we are
saying is with the society
00:27:13.15\00:27:15.65
there is gone so
far into meat eating
00:27:15.68\00:27:18.13
and dependence upon meat
00:27:18.16\00:27:19.33
we need to bring it
back to balance to God's plan
00:27:19.36\00:27:22.71
from His word which is
primarily a plant based diet.
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Fruits, nuts, grains, herbs
vegetables things like that.
00:27:26.89\00:27:30.90
That is healthy.
00:27:30.93\00:27:32.12
But it doesn't mean
that we go to extremes to say
00:27:32.15\00:27:36.08
that its sin beyond those things
00:27:36.11\00:27:38.08
to eat meat from clean animals.
00:27:38.11\00:27:40.86
And so that is something
that isn't found in God's word
00:27:40.89\00:27:43.88
which I think
sometimes people go to extremes
00:27:43.91\00:27:46.72
and imply that in fact, it is.
00:27:46.75\00:27:49.49
And they do it disservice
I think to the health message
00:27:49.52\00:27:52.45
and the truth
behind that health message
00:27:52.48\00:27:54.91
which is brining us
back from heavy meat based
00:27:54.94\00:27:58.39
into a diet that
is, that is balanced
00:27:58.42\00:28:03.42
and for the most part
is centered on fruits,
00:28:03.45\00:28:06.40
nuts, grains plant
based to provide the health
00:28:06.43\00:28:09.56
and nourishment for the body.
00:28:09.59\00:28:11.40
And the common sense thing is,
00:28:11.43\00:28:13.16
you know, why eat
primarily foods from animals
00:28:13.19\00:28:17.93
that are eating the
stuff to get the nutrition.
00:28:17.96\00:28:20.16
Why not go to the stuff
the actual fruits, nuts, grains
00:28:20.19\00:28:23.00
and plant based stuff to
get the nutrition ourselves
00:28:23.03\00:28:26.38
it makes sense to do that.
00:28:26.41\00:28:28.49
And so primarily we do.
00:28:28.52\00:28:30.23
Interesting in regard to
Seventh-day Adventist Church
00:28:30.26\00:28:33.19
and I'm gonna
make this statement
00:28:33.22\00:28:34.60
because in some respects
00:28:34.63\00:28:36.37
I think some go to
extremes in this area
00:28:36.40\00:28:38.21
and do like I said a disservice
to our health message.
00:28:38.24\00:28:41.35
I already made a
comment to somebody
00:28:41.38\00:28:43.09
that wrote in a letter
and she was writing about
00:28:43.12\00:28:45.62
Seventh-day
Adventist and vegetarianism
00:28:45.65\00:28:47.74
and she says this.
And I'm quoting actually.
00:28:47.77\00:28:49.54
She says, "All
adventurous are vegetarian."
00:28:49.57\00:28:54.91
But then she said these words.
00:28:54.94\00:28:57.10
"Some abstain
from eating flesh,"
00:28:57.13\00:29:00.48
from eating meat of any kind
00:29:00.51\00:29:03.02
"others eat it
only on rare occasions."
00:29:03.05\00:29:06.73
So she qualified even Adventist
00:29:06.76\00:29:08.45
that once in a while
ate meat as vegetarians.
00:29:08.48\00:29:12.69
So we need to be careful
as we approach this subject.
00:29:12.72\00:29:16.72
There is to be a
balance creating an environment
00:29:16.75\00:29:20.43
around diet that
creates division in the church
00:29:20.46\00:29:22.88
and hard feelings and other
things only divides the church.
00:29:22.91\00:29:26.37
We need to give latitude
for some that may include
00:29:26.40\00:29:29.05
clean animals and
meat in their diet
00:29:29.08\00:29:33.74
and leave God as the
arbiter the one to dictate
00:29:33.77\00:29:37.28
conscience to those.
00:29:37.31\00:29:39.24
And they're of course
those that are feeling like
00:29:39.27\00:29:41.28
vegan is strict--
vegan is the way to go
00:29:41.31\00:29:43.81
I respect that and in
fact that mostly practice that.
00:29:43.84\00:29:48.03
But we need to leave
it up to God with them
00:29:48.06\00:29:50.60
and even for
their own conscience
00:29:50.63\00:29:51.86
and it's something
that we need to love
00:29:51.89\00:29:53.23
and respect each other about.
00:29:53.26\00:29:54.44
You know, being
predominantly vegetarian
00:29:54.47\00:29:58.20
and I'll say
that because nowadays
00:29:58.23\00:29:59.76
we have this
vegan and vegetarian,
00:29:59.79\00:30:01.46
two categorizations.
00:30:01.49\00:30:02.98
We're more vegan
now than vegetarian
00:30:03.01\00:30:05.21
because my wife has learned
00:30:05.24\00:30:07.30
we have omitted many
things from our diet.
00:30:07.33\00:30:10.08
Like, cheese and
we don't drink milk.
00:30:10.11\00:30:12.56
We use butter still.
00:30:12.59\00:30:14.06
We rather, use
butter than margarine,
00:30:14.09\00:30:15.74
you know for
the obvious reasons.
00:30:15.77\00:30:17.30
We rather use real sweeteners
rather than fake sweeteners.
00:30:17.33\00:30:22.55
But what one of the things
here and this is the things--
00:30:22.58\00:30:25.33
years ago this
came to my attention
00:30:25.36\00:30:28.21
and really opened my
eyes to a reality about diet.
00:30:28.24\00:30:32.38
You see and when you
look at the sanctuary
00:30:32.41\00:30:33.92
the sanctuary is a beautiful.
00:30:33.95\00:30:35.66
The beautiful object lesson
00:30:35.69\00:30:39.75
of which direction
our lives are moving.
00:30:39.78\00:30:42.26
You have the most
holy place at one end
00:30:42.29\00:30:44.18
then you'll go away
from the most holy place-
00:30:44.21\00:30:46.51
if the Holy place then
you have the courtyard,
00:30:46.54\00:30:49.50
then you have the
altar of burnt offerings.
00:30:49.53\00:30:53.80
If you were to, if
you were to encapsulate
00:30:53.83\00:30:56.03
the whole sanctuary services.
00:30:56.06\00:30:58.37
Let's go to the outer court
00:30:58.40\00:31:00.90
you have all five food
groups represented there.
00:31:00.93\00:31:05.04
You have the
altar burn offerings
00:31:05.07\00:31:06.33
which includes the meats.
00:31:06.36\00:31:07.44
You have fruits, grains,
vegetable, nuts and meat.
00:31:07.47\00:31:11.37
But when you
leave the outer court
00:31:11.40\00:31:13.07
and go to the holy place.
00:31:13.10\00:31:14.62
You'll only have fruits,
grains, vegetables and nuts.
00:31:14.65\00:31:18.28
But when you
leave the holy place
00:31:18.31\00:31:19.62
and go into the most holy place.
00:31:19.65\00:31:20.89
There are no more vegetables.
00:31:20.92\00:31:22.01
You just have
fruits, grains and nuts.
00:31:22.04\00:31:24.40
And I thought to myself.
00:31:24.43\00:31:25.47
Wow, how amazingly
interesting that is.
00:31:25.50\00:31:29.12
It is said, and it's said
to me that one of the reasons
00:31:29.15\00:31:30.91
why being mindful
of what is in my diet
00:31:30.94\00:31:35.04
is it tells me
which way I'm going.
00:31:35.07\00:31:36.96
I'm going more
toward the most holy diet
00:31:36.99\00:31:39.69
which in fact,
is the optimum diet.
00:31:39.72\00:31:41.87
If you thought
of yourself as a car
00:31:41.90\00:31:44.97
they will put in that
manual one of the reasons
00:31:45.00\00:31:47.91
why we chose not to
buy a high end vehicles
00:31:47.94\00:31:50.33
because they required,
you know-- High octane.
00:31:50.36\00:31:52.81
High octane but if a
person bought a Mercedes
00:31:52.84\00:31:55.55
or person bought an
Infinity they required that,
00:31:55.58\00:31:58.10
that's what they would put.
00:31:58.13\00:31:59.37
They would not put low grade.
00:31:59.40\00:32:02.52
And there's some cars
that require mid grade.
00:32:02.55\00:32:04.12
I think you were
talking about that.
00:32:04.15\00:32:05.38
Cars are required
mid grade you put that.
00:32:05.41\00:32:07.81
It's amazing how
we are more interested
00:32:07.84\00:32:10.34
in the smooth
running of our vehicles.
00:32:10.37\00:32:14.13
And a question was asked in
news about over two months ago
00:32:14.16\00:32:17.04
on the
commercial and my wife said
00:32:17.07\00:32:18.66
"see John you've
just talked about that."
00:32:18.69\00:32:20.79
They said, "Okay
you're car or your health
00:32:20.82\00:32:23.46
which one is better?"
00:32:23.49\00:32:25.12
And most of the people said
00:32:25.15\00:32:26.37
"my car runs
better than my body does."
00:32:26.40\00:32:29.36
So here it is.
00:32:29.39\00:32:30.42
If God has given
us the optimum health
00:32:30.45\00:32:32.56
and it's amazing that a
couple of things came up
00:32:32.59\00:32:34.21
in our program
today about health.
00:32:34.24\00:32:36.10
You know, herbs,
marijuana, cocaine,
00:32:36.13\00:32:39.81
vegetables, fruits, grains
and nuts, meat, shell fish.
00:32:39.84\00:32:43.11
All these things came into
our plethora of questions today.
00:32:43.14\00:32:47.08
If you really want
to be optimum in health
00:32:47.11\00:32:49.79
I'm optimum in health I believe
00:32:49.82\00:32:53.65
don't take any
medication neither John.
00:32:53.68\00:32:56.82
He looks great
for 70, he doesn't he?
00:32:56.85\00:32:59.81
Actually he is not
70. I just said that.
00:32:59.84\00:33:02.44
I'm only 65. No,
he is not 65 either.
00:33:02.47\00:33:06.48
But the point is God
wants us all to be healthy.
00:33:06.51\00:33:10.56
And He wants our
minds to be clear.
00:33:10.59\00:33:12.35
He wants our bodies to be fit.
00:33:12.38\00:33:13.91
And if we're going
to busy with the gospel,
00:33:13.94\00:33:16.10
carrying the gospel how can you
not look the part of a gospel.
00:33:16.13\00:33:21.40
You got to look
the part of the gospel
00:33:21.43\00:33:23.66
if the gospel is
going to be received
00:33:23.69\00:33:25.75
from others
when you proclaim it.
00:33:25.78\00:33:27.95
You have to be an advertisement
00:33:27.98\00:33:30.09
of what you're
proclaiming. That's right.
00:33:30.12\00:33:31.29
And I think the healthiest
00:33:31.32\00:33:33.02
the healthiest lifestyle you
choose will give Glory to God.
00:33:33.05\00:33:36.46
1 Corinthians 10:31
is I think is beautiful.
00:33:36.49\00:33:39.58
And it
encapsulates all these things
00:33:39.61\00:33:40.90
about what goes in the body.
00:33:40.93\00:33:42.37
Whether you eat,
whether you aware for eat
00:33:42.40\00:33:45.19
or drink or whatever do,
do all to the glory of God
00:33:45.22\00:33:49.30
and that's the
principle that we like to wind
00:33:49.33\00:33:50.96
in this part of
the program upon.
00:33:50.99\00:33:53.15
Thank you for your
questions and your comments.
00:33:53.18\00:33:54.74
We spent a
little extra time today
00:33:54.77\00:33:56.12
because it was
necessary to do so.
00:33:56.15\00:33:59.00
But if you have
anymore questions or comments
00:33:59.03\00:34:00.46
you like to send to
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00:34:00.49\00:34:02.40
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00:34:02.43\00:34:06.53
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00:34:06.56\00:34:10.27
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00:34:10.30\00:34:13.62
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00:34:13.65\00:34:17.41
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00:34:17.44\00:34:22.36
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00:34:22.39\00:34:25.36
And we appreciate it very much
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00:34:25.39\00:34:28.39
John, take us
back into our topic
00:34:28.42\00:34:29.93
as we close that on something
that was really important.
00:34:29.96\00:34:32.97
Go ahead and introduce it to us.
00:34:33.00\00:34:34.17
Oh, we were talking about
00:34:34.20\00:34:35.37
the different
components of revival,
00:34:35.40\00:34:37.32
true revival in a church.
00:34:37.35\00:34:40.45
We have been praying as a church
00:34:40.48\00:34:42.24
for revival and reformation.
00:34:42.27\00:34:44.55
And if our church
wants to experience that
00:34:44.58\00:34:46.34
there are certain things
that revival and reformation
00:34:46.37\00:34:49.28
what it looks like
00:34:49.31\00:34:50.63
when the Holy Spirit
comes upon His people.
00:34:50.66\00:34:52.54
And I think to talk
about some of these things
00:34:52.57\00:34:55.16
that we're going on
during shortly after Pentecost
00:34:55.19\00:34:58.34
and comparing them with
00:34:58.37\00:34:59.69
what will happen with
the church in the last days
00:34:59.72\00:35:02.00
during the
outpouring of the latter rain
00:35:02.03\00:35:03.95
I think it provides us
some keys to what it look for us
00:35:03.98\00:35:06.39
to whether or not
revivals happening in our church
00:35:06.42\00:35:08.45
and our own lives. Okay.
00:35:08.48\00:35:09.95
And so we've
gone through already
00:35:09.98\00:35:11.44
I think about five
points that we've covered
00:35:11.47\00:35:15.31
and just a quick
review of those five points.
00:35:15.34\00:35:18.60
And number one,
revival began in the church.
00:35:18.63\00:35:21.71
When God is about to bestow
00:35:21.74\00:35:23.07
spiritual
blessing upon the people.
00:35:23.10\00:35:25.05
It says method first to awake,
00:35:25.08\00:35:27.16
awaken the people out
of their spiritual slumber
00:35:27.19\00:35:29.57
to recognize their
need. That's right.
00:35:29.60\00:35:31.30
Number two, there is
no emphasis on dreams,
00:35:31.33\00:35:33.27
visions,
emotions, hearing voices,
00:35:33.30\00:35:35.39
signs, nothing like that.
00:35:35.42\00:35:38.12
It was, it was as
much about the intellect
00:35:38.15\00:35:40.95
and the connection with God.
00:35:40.98\00:35:42.56
The way we read his
word and study as it is
00:35:42.59\00:35:47.71
that's what the emphasis
lies not just on the emotions.
00:35:47.74\00:35:50.25
Number three, it
began with an emphasis
00:35:50.28\00:35:52.52
on the grace of God
00:35:52.55\00:35:53.60
as bestowed by the
work of the Holy Spirit
00:35:53.63\00:35:55.81
and dependence upon that grace.
00:35:55.84\00:35:57.74
Number four, it
was the work of God.
00:35:57.77\00:36:00.87
Now there was a marked change
in the lives of the people
00:36:00.90\00:36:03.07
both their pursuits and
their appearance. That's right.
00:36:03.10\00:36:06.02
And then number five,
prayer became precious to them.
00:36:06.05\00:36:09.48
To every revival
prayer is a key component
00:36:09.51\00:36:12.88
and the people desire
to come before the Lord.
00:36:12.91\00:36:15.30
Not just individually but
corporate prayer is essential
00:36:15.33\00:36:18.96
to move upon the
heart of God and allow him.
00:36:18.99\00:36:21.56
You know, moving upon Him
00:36:21.59\00:36:22.72
to pour out His
spirit on His people.
00:36:22.75\00:36:25.44
So we have another seven
and the 12 to cover here.
00:36:25.47\00:36:28.48
And hopefully we can get that
done in the next 20 minutes.
00:36:28.51\00:36:30.68
Okay, I think we can do that.
00:36:30.71\00:36:32.42
So the next one
then which is number six,
00:36:32.45\00:36:36.52
is obedience to God's
commandments was important
00:36:36.55\00:36:39.82
or became very important
00:36:39.85\00:36:41.71
to those that
were seeking revival.
00:36:41.74\00:36:43.86
And in the last days
there will be new discoveries
00:36:43.89\00:36:46.58
not only in these commandments
00:36:46.61\00:36:47.67
but in the true meaning
of the Sabbath I believe.
00:36:47.70\00:36:51.53
And what it means to our
relationship with the Lord
00:36:51.56\00:36:53.84
it will be honored as a people
as they begin to rest in Jesus
00:36:53.87\00:36:58.73
and His finished work
00:36:58.76\00:37:00.64
as well as those
work of recreation. Okay.
00:37:00.67\00:37:03.76
Now one of the
interesting things you'll find
00:37:03.79\00:37:05.19
and one of the
texts I brought up here
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for this one is
Deuteronomy Chapter 5.
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And if you, if
you read this passage
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which again as I repeating--
actually Deuteronomy 6
00:37:15.44\00:37:18.26
is a repeating of
the-- no, I'm sorry,
00:37:18.29\00:37:20.83
it's chapter 5, repeating
of the Ten Commandments.
00:37:20.86\00:37:23.82
Look at the fourth commandment
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and it reads a little different
that it does in Exodus.
00:37:25.21\00:37:28.03
And notice what
the emphasis is on
00:37:28.06\00:37:30.68
for the fourth commandment
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and we'll start
with Deuteronomy 5:15.
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"And remember" well, let's see
00:37:35.26\00:37:37.85
first of all it says
"Observe the Sabbath day."
00:37:37.88\00:37:39.89
Which is verse
12, "to keep it Holy,
00:37:39.92\00:37:41.95
as the Lord your
God commanded you."
00:37:41.98\00:37:44.06
And then reads very similarly
00:37:44.09\00:37:45.71
to the passage in
the book of Exodus.
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But look at
verse 15, "And remember
00:37:48.93\00:37:52.58
that you were a
slave in the land of Egypt,
00:37:52.61\00:37:55.87
and the Lord your God
brought you out from there
00:37:55.90\00:37:58.65
by a mighty hand and
by an outstretched arm,
00:37:58.68\00:38:01.79
therefore the Lord your God
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commanded you to
keep the Sabbath day."
00:38:03.28\00:38:06.90
Jesus is
connecting here the Sabbath
00:38:06.93\00:38:12.42
with deliverance and recreation.
00:38:12.45\00:38:17.48
In other words his
work of redemption.
00:38:17.51\00:38:20.66
So the Sabbath
isn't just about creation
00:38:20.69\00:38:23.05
originally it's a
more a memorial creation
00:38:23.08\00:38:25.18
we know that it is. Right.
00:38:25.21\00:38:26.24
But it's not alone about
that, it is also about our trust
00:38:26.27\00:38:30.11
and confidence in
the God our re-creator.
00:38:30.14\00:38:33.99
Recreating us into His image.
00:38:34.02\00:38:36.74
So as we look for
revival and reformation
00:38:36.77\00:38:39.99
becoming a new
creation in Christ
00:38:40.02\00:38:42.61
the Sabbath becomes
meaningful in that capacity
00:38:42.64\00:38:45.64
in the fact that on this day
00:38:45.67\00:38:47.88
He can commune with
us regenerate our hearts
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and make us more
like Him. Okay I got it.
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So in that way
there is a new insight.
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And this is just
for some recent studies
00:38:57.29\00:38:59.00
that I have been
doing always wondering
00:38:59.03\00:39:00.82
why this edition
was in Deuteronomy
00:39:00.85\00:39:03.81
to the fourth commandment.
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I believe He is connecting this
with this work of regeneration.
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Recreation, of His image
in the lives of His people.
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You can't
disconnect that from that
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because when
you are regenerated,
00:39:14.91\00:39:17.26
when the commandments of God are
00:39:17.29\00:39:19.26
taking center stage in your life
00:39:19.29\00:39:21.13
you can't say that
commandments of God
00:39:21.16\00:39:23.54
are taking
center stage in my life
00:39:23.57\00:39:25.46
but the Sabbath
is omitted from that.
00:39:25.49\00:39:27.54
I like the way that
David, the Psalmist,
00:39:27.57\00:39:30.73
Psalm 40:8 I like the
way that David wrote it here.
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It says, "I delight to
do Your will, O my God,
00:39:33.81\00:39:37.55
And Your law is
within my heart."
00:39:37.58\00:39:40.57
Your law is within my heart.
00:39:40.60\00:39:42.32
When we have a
delight to do God's will
00:39:42.35\00:39:44.95
His law finds a
place in our practice.
00:39:44.98\00:39:47.26
And we don't, we don't
edit the law of God to say,
00:39:47.29\00:39:52.34
"I delight to do a will,
your law is within my heart
00:39:52.37\00:39:55.20
but these are the
ones that I put there,
00:39:55.23\00:39:57.27
these are the
ones that I omitted."
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You'll find in the continual
revival of the people of God,
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Old Testament and New Testament
00:40:03.21\00:40:05.24
the law of God
was at the center.
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David, I mean not the
David the Paul the apostle
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if you go to Romans 7:7.
00:40:09.20\00:40:11.93
Romans, Paul brings
this out very carefully.
00:40:11.96\00:40:15.10
He says in Romans
Chapter 7 here it is.
00:40:15.13\00:40:18.46
He talks about how beautiful
00:40:18.49\00:40:21.06
the commandments
of God really are.
00:40:21.09\00:40:23.96
He says again Romans 7.
00:40:23.99\00:40:27.06
It sounds just like
David-- in Roman in Psalms 40:8.
00:40:27.09\00:40:31.22
David said "I
delight to deal will
00:40:31.25\00:40:33.58
your law is within my heart."
00:40:33.61\00:40:35.33
Paul says in Romans 7:22.
00:40:35.36\00:40:37.49
"I delight in the law of God
according to the inward man."
00:40:37.52\00:40:42.08
See so the delight is there.
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Delight, delight, it's
a delightful thing to me.
00:40:43.79\00:40:46.47
It amazes me when Christian say,
00:40:46.50\00:40:48.27
"hey we just had a
revival and reformation."
00:40:48.30\00:40:50.70
I remember in my
younger days I use to--
00:40:50.73\00:40:55.41
there was church
across the street
00:40:55.44\00:40:56.47
of my house in New York City
00:40:56.50\00:40:58.53
and whenever they
gathered in that church
00:40:58.56\00:41:00.21
I'd become a missionary.
00:41:00.24\00:41:02.84
I know some people
might just not like this idea
00:41:02.87\00:41:06.75
but I would make
that my particular day.
00:41:06.78\00:41:09.30
And I go put fliers on all
the cars right under there,
00:41:09.33\00:41:13.77
under there windshield wipers.
00:41:13.80\00:41:15.40
And one day I
was really encouraged
00:41:15.43\00:41:18.37
because I saw the
title of the sermon
00:41:18.40\00:41:20.13
that was preached that
day was the Ten Commandments.
00:41:20.16\00:41:23.88
So I didn't have to wrestle over
00:41:23.91\00:41:26.41
which flier to
put on the window.
00:41:26.44\00:41:28.58
So I put on there, you know,
00:41:28.61\00:41:30.74
one that included
the Sabbath in that.
00:41:30.77\00:41:33.42
And one as I sat on my steps
00:41:33.45\00:41:36.50
we call it
stoops in New York City.
00:41:36.53\00:41:37.78
I sat out side of the
house and waited to see
00:41:37.81\00:41:41.67
and what the
reaction was going to be.
00:41:41.70\00:41:43.29
And all of these came outside,
00:41:43.32\00:41:44.95
they were all
taken off these fliers
00:41:44.98\00:41:46.35
and looking at
them and kind of one,
00:41:46.38\00:41:48.30
did you get one that I got.
00:41:48.33\00:41:49.46
Yeah, I got one.
00:41:49.49\00:41:50.53
And it was amazing to me
00:41:50.56\00:41:51.60
how they all just looked
at this in the very real way.
00:41:51.63\00:41:55.68
And then I had a
chance about a week later
00:41:55.71\00:41:57.98
to meet the pastor
because he found out about it.
00:41:58.01\00:42:01.67
And I sat in his
office and I was surprised,
00:42:01.70\00:42:04.54
he said well, tell
me what's behind you
00:42:04.57\00:42:07.13
putting these
fliers on the cars?
00:42:07.16\00:42:08.91
I said, well, I
think that Christians--
00:42:08.94\00:42:10.84
I noticed you sermon was
about the Ten Commandments
00:42:10.87\00:42:13.00
so therefore I
thought was perfect.
00:42:13.03\00:42:14.71
He is preaching
about the Ten Commandments.
00:42:14.74\00:42:16.47
Surely, he will
be very supportive
00:42:16.50\00:42:18.80
of the Sabbath
command and but he wasn't.
00:42:18.83\00:42:21.61
And I thought you have
a revival series going on,
00:42:21.64\00:42:25.25
one of those sermons is
about the Ten Commandments
00:42:25.28\00:42:27.58
but you don't favor
the Sabbath go figure.
00:42:27.61\00:42:30.94
And I thought
this doesn't match.
00:42:30.97\00:42:33.26
David and Paul
wouldn't fit into his arena
00:42:33.29\00:42:35.91
because they said they delight
according to the law of God.
00:42:35.94\00:42:40.09
But not everybody delights.
00:42:40.12\00:42:41.62
So the point that John made here
00:42:41.65\00:42:43.31
obedience to God's commandments
00:42:43.34\00:42:44.62
will take center stage
00:42:44.65\00:42:46.20
if that is a part of
revival and reformation.
00:42:46.23\00:42:48.39
You cannot exclude that
and say you're being revived.
00:42:48.42\00:42:52.31
Yeah. It's not possible.
00:42:52.34\00:42:53.59
Yeah, yeah. You can't do it.
00:42:53.62\00:42:56.46
All right number seven.
00:42:56.49\00:42:59.11
Number seven, people studied
00:42:59.14\00:43:02.62
and cherished the
Bible with a new found love.
00:43:02.65\00:43:06.25
Every opportunity for
religious instruction was prized
00:43:06.28\00:43:09.63
and fellowship
with the people of God
00:43:09.66\00:43:11.63
involved serious conversation.
00:43:11.66\00:43:13.74
They came together
for serious Bible study.
00:43:13.77\00:43:16.81
In fact, I think
the commentary in regard
00:43:16.84\00:43:20.15
to the Berean's is
very kind of the key here.
00:43:20.18\00:43:23.60
Where it says that
they were more noble
00:43:23.63\00:43:26.58
in that they studied
the word of God how often?
00:43:26.61\00:43:29.59
Everyday.
00:43:29.62\00:43:30.65
Everyday to see if the things
they were hearing were true.
00:43:30.68\00:43:33.86
That's what in Acts 17:11.
00:43:33.89\00:43:35.49
And so that's a
key part of revival
00:43:35.52\00:43:38.28
and that there
is a renewed desire
00:43:38.31\00:43:40.54
and hunger for the word of God
00:43:40.57\00:43:42.26
coming together
and in seriousness,
00:43:42.29\00:43:44.21
studying it and
applying to their lives.
00:43:44.24\00:43:47.27
And they did this
daily, you know, Acts 2:46,
00:43:47.30\00:43:50.33
"So continuing daily
with one accord in the temple,
00:43:50.36\00:43:54.67
and breaking bread
from house to house,
00:43:54.70\00:43:56.82
they ate their
food with gladness
00:43:56.85\00:43:59.14
and simplicity of heart."
00:43:59.17\00:44:01.26
Whenever revival
takes place the word of God
00:44:01.29\00:44:04.02
has to be a
part of that revival.
00:44:04.05\00:44:06.02
You cannot sustain
a revival on music.
00:44:06.05\00:44:08.84
I love music. I'm musician.
00:44:08.87\00:44:10.31
I love to sing. I
like to do concerts.
00:44:10.34\00:44:12.12
But you cannot
sustain the revival on music.
00:44:12.15\00:44:15.07
It won't last. It won't last.
00:44:15.10\00:44:18.15
Because it
maintains a particular curve
00:44:18.18\00:44:20.87
but you'll notice
what the world does.
00:44:20.90\00:44:23.18
The world has a revival,
00:44:23.21\00:44:25.55
the world gets
revival meetings. Yeah.
00:44:25.58\00:44:28.13
But it is all musical based.
00:44:28.16\00:44:30.10
Concerts you know
music on the radio,
00:44:30.13\00:44:32.97
music on
television, music videos,
00:44:33.00\00:44:35.45
you just-- we're
inundated by music.
00:44:35.48\00:44:39.00
But Paul did not give the
injection to sing the word,
00:44:39.03\00:44:42.86
Paul was, was given as the
injection to preach the word.
00:44:42.89\00:44:47.22
So the word has
to be a center part
00:44:47.25\00:44:49.44
of our serious
conversion and step in revival.
00:44:49.47\00:44:55.76
If the word is excluded,
00:44:55.79\00:44:57.41
it cannot truly represent
the revival of the word.
00:44:57.44\00:45:00.66
It has to
include the word of God.
00:45:00.69\00:45:02.29
Isn't that right
John? Absolutely.
00:45:02.32\00:45:04.09
Okay. Absolutely.
00:45:04.12\00:45:05.25
What else you have
there? All right the next--
00:45:05.28\00:45:06.90
Anything else on this
one? No nothing on this one.
00:45:06.93\00:45:09.13
I think it's pretty much self
explanatory almost. All right.
00:45:09.16\00:45:13.25
The next one is there
is unity in the church.
00:45:13.28\00:45:15.90
Differences of
opinion are laid aside
00:45:15.93\00:45:17.58
for the sake of the
mission of God's church. Okay.
00:45:17.61\00:45:21.91
Here's that passage
from Philippians 2:1-3.
00:45:21.94\00:45:26.93
"Therefore if there is
any consolation in Christ,
00:45:26.96\00:45:29.26
if any comfort of love, if
any fellowship of the Spirit,
00:45:29.29\00:45:34.02
if any affection and mercy,
00:45:34.05\00:45:36.70
fulfill my joy by
being like-minded,
00:45:36.73\00:45:40.07
having the same love,
00:45:40.10\00:45:41.27
being of one
accord and one mind.
00:45:41.30\00:45:45.17
Let nothing be done through
selfish ambition or conceit,
00:45:45.20\00:45:47.85
but in
lowliness of mind let each
00:45:47.88\00:45:49.93
esteem others
better than themselves."
00:45:49.96\00:45:53.22
So this is coming to
together and being like minded.
00:45:53.25\00:45:55.51
Now that it doesn't
mean to be same minded
00:45:55.54\00:45:57.83
in every single
thought or opinion. Duplicate.
00:45:57.86\00:46:01.07
But it meant on the
key issues that we are one.
00:46:01.10\00:46:05.40
And there are
issues where we have
00:46:05.43\00:46:06.91
some differences of opinion.
00:46:06.94\00:46:08.61
That will lead us aside
for the unity of the church
00:46:08.64\00:46:10.57
and the mission of
spreading the gospel
00:46:10.60\00:46:13.31
of the kingdom of God.
00:46:13.34\00:46:15.10
When the lord blessed
the church Ephesians 4.
00:46:15.13\00:46:18.49
This was a key element.
00:46:18.52\00:46:20.05
The unity, I'm always,
00:46:20.08\00:46:23.09
I'm always
offset by the statement
00:46:23.12\00:46:26.51
when people say I don't
like organized religion. Yeah.
00:46:26.54\00:46:31.43
Then I thought okay then
00:46:31.46\00:46:32.66
what's the opposite
of organized religion?
00:46:32.69\00:46:36.38
Disorganized religion.
00:46:36.41\00:46:39.37
You don't get reports saying
00:46:39.40\00:46:41.61
this month's
disorganization report.
00:46:41.64\00:46:43.82
No this month's
organization report.
00:46:43.85\00:46:46.16
You know, we wanted
organized government right now.
00:46:46.19\00:46:49.13
We're upset that
there are government
00:46:49.16\00:46:50.49
appears to be disorganized.
00:46:50.52\00:46:52.67
Everything that is organized has
an element of strength to it.
00:46:52.70\00:46:56.75
There is no such thing as
being disunity and strength.
00:46:56.78\00:47:01.23
Just a match. That's right.
00:47:01.26\00:47:02.71
So when the Lord
talks about the unity
00:47:02.74\00:47:05.19
of the strength of
the New Testament church
00:47:05.22\00:47:06.68
Paul emphasizes
clearly Ephesians 4.
00:47:06.71\00:47:09.94
Look at what all the
components that God gave
00:47:09.97\00:47:12.05
and when John talks about--
00:47:12.08\00:47:13.81
we're talking
about revival here.
00:47:13.84\00:47:15.39
What I see in this
passage I'm going to read
00:47:15.42\00:47:17.84
is everybody that has
a call on his or her life
00:47:17.87\00:47:22.28
must be involved in the unity
of the movement of the church.
00:47:22.31\00:47:26.54
Everybody called
to hold the position
00:47:26.57\00:47:29.26
to occupy a position.
00:47:29.29\00:47:31.15
He must occupy that position
00:47:31.18\00:47:33.04
with one particular
primary goal in mind
00:47:33.07\00:47:35.90
maintaining unity.
00:47:35.93\00:47:37.86
Because if each person
pushes his or her agenda
00:47:37.89\00:47:40.42
then the unity is lost
00:47:40.45\00:47:41.84
and the primary goal
of the church falls apart.
00:47:41.87\00:47:44.25
That's right.
But look at verse 11.
00:47:44.28\00:47:46.38
Do you have it, John? Yes.
00:47:46.41\00:47:48.75
Okay, start
with verse 11 for us.
00:47:48.78\00:47:50.71
"And He Himself
gave some to be apostles,
00:47:50.74\00:47:52.62
some prophets, some evangelists,
00:47:52.65\00:47:54.04
and some pastors and teachers,"
00:47:54.07\00:47:55.92
Okay now just
before we go pass that.
00:47:55.95\00:47:57.86
Look at all the people
that are involved in revival.
00:47:57.89\00:47:59.80
This is the apostles
today we'll call those people
00:47:59.83\00:48:03.45
that go door to
door carrying the message
00:48:03.48\00:48:05.39
or specifically that they're
canvassing the neighborhood.
00:48:05.42\00:48:08.08
They have got the
message to get to the community.
00:48:08.11\00:48:10.32
The other one, prophet's,
evangelists, pastors, teachers.
00:48:10.35\00:48:14.25
And what are they doing?
00:48:14.28\00:48:15.36
"For the equipping of the
saints for the work of ministry,
00:48:15.39\00:48:18.37
for the edifying
of the body of Christ,
00:48:18.40\00:48:20.61
till we all come to
the unity of the faith
00:48:20.64\00:48:23.40
and of the
knowledge of the Son of God,
00:48:23.43\00:48:25.05
to a perfect man,
00:48:25.08\00:48:26.62
to the measure of the stature
of the fullness of Christ."
00:48:26.65\00:48:29.94
Right, and then
what does it prevent?
00:48:29.97\00:48:31.71
This is something
that you talked about.
00:48:31.74\00:48:33.52
What does, what is
the proper function
00:48:33.55\00:48:35.83
of all these offices
and the church prevent
00:48:35.86\00:48:39.55
from happening in
the church? Verse 14.
00:48:39.58\00:48:42.97
"That we should no
longer be children,
00:48:43.00\00:48:44.79
tossed to and
fro and carried about
00:48:44.82\00:48:46.61
with every wind of doctrine,
but the trickery of men,
00:48:46.64\00:48:49.34
in the cunning craftiness
of deceitful plotting,
00:48:49.37\00:48:52.68
but, speaking the truth in love,
00:48:52.71\00:48:54.12
may grow up in
all things into Him
00:48:54.15\00:48:56.26
who is the head
Christ". That's right.
00:48:56.29\00:48:58.41
So what it also does
when it comes to revival,
00:48:58.44\00:49:00.90
what you want to do.
00:49:00.93\00:49:01.96
The reason why it's so
important to be unified
00:49:01.99\00:49:03.83
is because you prevent fraction.
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You prevent fracturing that
we should no longer be children.
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People start to grow up.
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We say to some individuals
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how long have
you been in Christian
00:49:15.20\00:49:16.62
and you're behaving so childish.
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What's that word, childish?
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You're behaving childish.
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You're holding on to attitudes.
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And well, you know
I want to have my way.
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We lay aside childish things.
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We should no longer be children.
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If we're no longer children
we're not tossed back and forth
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and carried about with
every wind of doctrine.
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We've got a stable foundation
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and for there to be unity
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there will be a
stable foundation
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and then man can't deceive us.
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But the truth goes forth in love
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and we grow up and
finally one day we attain
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to the measure of the statue
of the fullness of Christ.
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That is we aim and our goal
is to be more or like Jesus.
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And revival does that.
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Brings about the unity,
lays aside the differences
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that all of us are--harping
on and brings about a formula
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where we don't fall
apart, we're no longer children,
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we're unified in our
teachings and we're all growing.
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John, there're messages today
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and people today who
are championing a message
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that is slightly different
00:50:17.45\00:50:19.79
than what's some of
us may have heard before.
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And it's dividing a church.
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And they call it for instance,
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they will call it the shaking.
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And if you don't
accept their message
00:50:31.58\00:50:32.89
their brand of truth
you're being shaken out. Yeah.
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And it's a message of disunity.
They don't see it that way.
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But what is happening
is disunifying the church.
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And it's not a
message from the Lord.
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True revival always centers
around bringing people together.
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You know, it may
include some being revived
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and others not being revived
but they doesn't--it's not a,
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it's not a
separation or division
00:50:54.35\00:50:56.72
of the message itself. Right.
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Okay. So anyway keep going.
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All right, I like this next one.
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Go ahead read the next one.
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Okay there was a focus
on the need for regeneration
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that's being born again.
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Along with it, there
was additional emphasis
00:51:10.66\00:51:15.16
on the need for a life changing
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or life changes
specifically reformation.
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Wow, Ezekiel 37 was the
one that I want to. Okay.
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Ezekiel 37 and one of
my favorite's stories.
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I did a sermon
number of years ago entitled
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"I have got a
bone to pick with you."
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And it fits right
into the story here
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because the valley of dry bones.
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You see this needs
the light the emphasis
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for a life
changing and reformation
00:51:40.27\00:51:42.53
and regeneration
and being born again.
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All of the components are found
in this story of Ezekiel 37.
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Start John, are you
turning there. I'm there.
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Start by reading verse 1 to 3
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and I'm going to go
ahead and turn it there.
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"The hand of the
Lord came upon me
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and brought me out in
the Spirit of the Lord,
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and set me down in
the midst of the valley,
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and it was full of bones.
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Then He caused me to
pass by them all around,
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and behold, there was
very many in the open valley,
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and indeed they were very dry.
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And He said to me, 'Son of
man, can these bones live?'
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So I answered 'Oh,
Lord God you know.'"
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Sometimes pastors--
look at the congregation
00:52:21.76\00:52:23.77
Lord says can they revive.
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And we say, oh,
Lord only you know.
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That was the wisest
evangelistic response ever.
00:52:28.07\00:52:31.02
He did not say I
know they could live.
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He said Lord, you
know because only God knows
00:52:33.49\00:52:35.40
the internal
condition of the hearts.
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But look what
God promised to do.
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Look what the covenant
that God made with Ezekiel here
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as he called as he responded
over God called to him to do.
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He said "Again He said to
me, 'Prophesy to these bones,
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and say to them, O dry bones,
hear the word of the Lord!"
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In other words, no matter how
dry the congregation may appear
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we got to keep
preaching the gospel
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isn't' that right,
John. That's right.
00:52:59.88\00:53:00.91
And you're involved
in personal ministries
00:53:00.94\00:53:02.25
and evangelism in
my your conference,
00:53:02.28\00:53:03.50
isn't that correct. Yeah.
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So you go and
you'll say to the pastors
00:53:04.71\00:53:06.20
I know it may
appears though its hopeless
00:53:06.23\00:53:09.06
I know what
you're saying about how
00:53:09.09\00:53:11.48
evangelistic series
don't happen very well.
00:53:11.51\00:53:13.45
But just keep on
preaching the word.
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Isn't that right? That's right.
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But look at the next
verses. Read that for us.
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Look at that what
God promises to do.
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Start with verse 5.
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"Thus says the
Lord God to these bones,
00:53:21.99\00:53:24.46
'Surely I will cause
breath to enter into you,
00:53:24.49\00:53:27.72
and you shall live.
00:53:27.75\00:53:29.37
I will put sinews on you
and bring flesh upon you,
00:53:29.40\00:53:33.37
cover you with skin
and put breath in you;
00:53:33.40\00:53:35.99
and you shall live.
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Then you shall know
that I am the Lord.'"
00:53:37.67\00:53:40.11
Okay I will. I will.
00:53:40.14\00:53:41.89
God makes a
covenant there again.
00:53:41.92\00:53:43.76
When we involve
ourselves in preaching the word.
00:53:43.79\00:53:46.36
God says "Okay I may do my part.
00:53:46.39\00:53:48.11
You preach to these dry bones
00:53:48.14\00:53:49.64
and here is
what I'm going to do.
00:53:49.67\00:53:50.81
I will allow
breath to come into them.
00:53:50.84\00:53:53.31
I will give them new skin
00:53:53.34\00:53:55.27
and when you
break down the sinew."
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Sinew is muscle it restores
the strength of the church.
00:53:57.05\00:54:00.69
Revival strengthens the church.
00:54:00.72\00:54:03.38
The other thing
I'll cover you with skin.
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A new righteousness.
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Skin the covering
is always an indication
00:54:07.65\00:54:09.61
of the righteousness of Christ.
00:54:09.64\00:54:11.59
The other one is, breathe.
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Well, the breath is always
indicative of the Holy Spirit.
00:54:13.44\00:54:15.68
Breathing into us.
00:54:15.71\00:54:16.85
He breathes
down on them and said
00:54:16.88\00:54:18.27
receive you the Holy Spirit
00:54:18.30\00:54:19.84
that's what Jesus
did to His disciples.
00:54:19.87\00:54:21.41
The Holy Spirit now
is infused in our lives.
00:54:21.44\00:54:23.74
And then what happens in
only then shall you live.
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Notice the context
the components there.
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What should we put on
that? The Lord did it.
00:54:30.02\00:54:33.77
The Lord initiated this
revival and they responded
00:54:33.80\00:54:37.61
and these thing took
place in their lives.
00:54:37.64\00:54:40.06
Life changes that
took place were generated
00:54:40.09\00:54:43.24
were initiated by God
and came from the Lord.
00:54:43.27\00:54:45.43
We cannot just conjure up
00:54:45.46\00:54:49.42
a renewed love for
God and for His work.
00:54:49.45\00:54:52.36
He has to put that in us.
00:54:52.39\00:54:53.74
That's why verse
12 and then verse 14,
00:54:53.77\00:54:56.94
notice what it says.
00:54:56.97\00:54:58.00
"Therefore
prophesy and say to them,
00:54:58.03\00:54:59.62
'Thus says the Lord
God, Behold, O My people,
00:54:59.65\00:55:02.06
I will open your graves
00:55:02.09\00:55:03.92
and cause you to
come up from your graves,
00:55:03.95\00:55:06.23
and bring you into
the land of Israel.
00:55:06.26\00:55:08.47
Then you shall
know that I am the Lord,
00:55:08.50\00:55:11.38
when I have opened
your graves, O My people,
00:55:11.41\00:55:14.02
and brought you up
from your graves.'"
00:55:14.05\00:55:16.48
And then the final promise.
00:55:16.51\00:55:17.84
"I will put My Spirit
in you, and you shall live,
00:55:17.87\00:55:21.62
and I will place
you in your own land.
00:55:21.65\00:55:24.88
Then you shall
know that I, the Lord,
00:55:24.91\00:55:27.13
have spoken it and
performed it, says the Lord.'"
00:55:27.16\00:55:30.22
Look at that God
promises to do. Yeah.
00:55:30.25\00:55:32.57
This is a powerful story
of revival and reformation.
00:55:32.60\00:55:35.27
The focus on
regeneration being born again,
00:55:35.30\00:55:37.89
change lives
and, and reformation.
00:55:37.92\00:55:41.52
That's what I said.
00:55:41.55\00:55:42.58
Regeneration reformation
born again and change lives.
00:55:42.61\00:55:45.81
Amen. All included there.
00:55:45.84\00:55:47.73
We have a minute to do three.
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Go for it. Here we go.
00:55:50.27\00:55:51.58
Revival also preceded,
provided a death wound to sin.
00:55:51.61\00:55:56.09
The desire to please self
when amusement disappeared
00:55:56.12\00:55:59.09
the youth especially
00:55:59.12\00:56:00.15
were transformed
by the love of Jesus.
00:56:00.18\00:56:04.26
Number 11, the
fruit of the spirit
00:56:04.29\00:56:06.52
was seen in the
lives of the believers,
00:56:06.55\00:56:08.60
love, joy, peace,
patience, kindness, goodness,
00:56:08.63\00:56:10.95
faithfulness,
gentleness and self control.
00:56:10.98\00:56:13.71
And then number 12,
the most important evidence
00:56:13.74\00:56:15.75
of true revival was a new
felt love for lost people.
00:56:15.78\00:56:19.36
And a desire to share
the gospel with others
00:56:19.39\00:56:21.95
both personally and corporately.
00:56:21.98\00:56:23.89
Now I want to end on that one.
00:56:23.92\00:56:25.25
Because, here is, I
think this is the litmus test
00:56:25.28\00:56:28.44
for whether or not
revival has truly occurred.
00:56:28.47\00:56:31.24
And that is our desire and our
new found love for last people.
00:56:31.27\00:56:36.75
If we don't have our
love, that moves us to reach out
00:56:36.78\00:56:39.83
and to save other
people who are lost.
00:56:39.86\00:56:42.64
Then there is no revival that
is taking place of the heart.
00:56:42.67\00:56:46.55
I love Romans 5:5.
00:56:46.58\00:56:48.12
The Holy Spirit was
poured into our heart
00:56:48.15\00:56:50.75
and it says He brought love.
00:56:50.78\00:56:52.08
He brings love is
poured into our heart
00:56:52.11\00:56:53.61
through the Holy Spirit.
00:56:53.64\00:56:54.97
So if you don't
have love for lost people
00:56:55.00\00:56:57.64
you need to pray
for the Holy Spirit
00:56:57.67\00:56:58.80
to revive your soul
00:56:58.83\00:57:00.92
and then be confident
that when that love comes
00:57:00.95\00:57:03.03
you must respond to
that love get out there
00:57:03.06\00:57:04.73
and work for
their salvation. Wow.
00:57:04.76\00:57:07.37
Sin shall not
have dominion over us
00:57:07.40\00:57:10.28
and be as a reviving
in every particular even--
00:57:10.31\00:57:13.61
well we go to get
away from our own self love
00:57:13.64\00:57:16.40
and begin to love those
that may have strayed away,
00:57:16.43\00:57:18.98
that may have walked
away, that may have turned away,
00:57:19.01\00:57:20.79
that may be discouraged.
00:57:20.82\00:57:22.13
When revival
happens it doesn't happen
00:57:22.16\00:57:24.66
just for the
sake of the local body
00:57:24.69\00:57:26.65
but for all of those
connected to their family.
00:57:26.68\00:57:28.77
May the Lord
revive you and bring you
00:57:28.80\00:57:30.63
to that relationship with
Him and may that happen today.
00:57:30.66\00:57:33.39
God bless you.
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