Hello friends, grab
your Bible and friend
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and sit back as
we explore God's word
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together on this
edition of House Calls.
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Welcome to House Calls.
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My name is John and right next
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to me is my good friend,
what's--what's your name?
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John. Stanton, that's Stanton.
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We know him as Stanton.
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He's from the Northwest.
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I'm from the
Northwest. Or Coolidge, Park.
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Coolidge, Park. Our
names are so identical
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that we had use derivatives
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just so when we
are around our wives,
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we confused each
other when Rochelle
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and Angie together
and she says John I turned
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and he turns
and Angie says John.
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So I called Coolidge
and he calls me Parker
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but don't you do that.
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Thank you, for tuning
into the program today.
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Get your
Bibles, get your family,
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get your pens and sit back
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as we go to another topic today.
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We're gonna talk about
something that's very important
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I'm not gonna tell you
what it is yet but before
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we do anything we want to
just thank you, for tuning in.
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And we're going to have prayer
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so we can ask for the
Lord to bless this program.
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John, pray for us.
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Dear Father, we
are thankful once again
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to be able to come
before Your presence
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and to pray to You.
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God who hears our, our
cries, our voice and our,
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our prayers and we just asked
that You would respond to us
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as we open up Your
word to bring Your spirit
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to lead into to
instruct us in Your word
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that we may rightly
divide the word of truth.
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Lord it is the good news
gospel and we want to make sure
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that is always
connected to Jesus our Savior.
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So we submit
ourselves into His hand today
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and ask that You
would lead us down
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the path of righteousness
in Christ name we pray, amen.
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Amen. And as you know
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we always have Bible question,
we love to do Bible questions.
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Matter fact that's
kind of half our program
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and sometimes we get snail mail,
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other times we get email.
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And--but whatever
you send we are thankful
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that you do consider sending.
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I just, I just
happened to end up
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by default with all the letters.
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He is so techie, he didn't
want to deal with any letters.
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He is the email guy.
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So what you have, Mr. Email guy?
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Well, I'm got a question
that we've been asked before
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but it's been sometime that
we've since we've answered it.
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Okay. The question comes
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from Connie and she
says, "my husband said
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that he thought Romans
14 was about the Sabbath,
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when it first, two
days-- when it refers two days,
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so I told him it's not,
it's about feasters or eating.
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I read in verses 1-4,
so he must've mentioned
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that to a leader of
the program at his church
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that he was a part
of and the guy said,
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that he would like to know
our church's view on Romans 14.
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So can you please explain that?"
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Okay. This is a same question
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that I was asked actually
by one of my pastor friends
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that I met at an area
church that I was pastoring
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and he was
pastoring another denomination
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and he said you know,
I sincerely want to know
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your view on several things.
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And he said, would you-- if
I sent an email and asked you
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some questions would you
be able to respond to that?
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And I said, sure.
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So this is one of
the things he asked me,
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can you please
expound on I think he said,
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Ephesians 2,
Colossians 2 and Romans 14.
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Okay. Those are the key passages
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that he wanted to
know my interpretation
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of and our
churches interpretation.
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And so what he didn't
expect is my 19 page letter
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that was the reply
that went back to him.
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But he went
through the whole thing.
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I mean--I mean I
really I gave him credit
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for that and he was
an honest seeker and so,
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you know, pray for him.
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Anyway so let's go
into Romans Chapter 14.
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All right. Is
the Sabbath in here,
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first of all its the
question that is being asked
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and if its not what is
Paul talking about in Romans 14?
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All right. So John,
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let's start with verse 1.
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"Receive one who
is weak in the faith,
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but not to disputes
over doubtful things."
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Okay, that's good opening
statement here because I think
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the Paul's
encouragement here of the saints
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is not to get into
arguments over things
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that really don't matter.
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Don't, don't
really have a huge barring
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on the over all
Christian life and how you walk
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and give yourself to
following God and His teachings.
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And so this is
the opening statement
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in a way tells
us that what follows
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is not a major
issue within Christendom.
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It's not a major
teaching within Christendom.
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And so the question
there first of all is,
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is the Sabbath number one,
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one of the major teachings
of the Christian faith?
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And we would advocate of
course of that is because it's,
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it's one of the
Ten Commandments.
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Although some feels it's
the ten suggestions these days
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but it's the fourth commandment
that you keep part of that.
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So it's not a doubtful thing.
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Verse 2, "For one believe
that he may eat all things
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but he who is weak,
eats only vegetables.
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Let not him who eats
despise him who does eat
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and let not him who does not eat
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judge him who eats
for God has received him.
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Who are you to
judge another servant?
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To his own master he
stands or falls indeed
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he will be made
the stand for God
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is able to make him stand.
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One person esteems
one day above another,
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another esteems everyday alike.
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Let each be fully
convinced in his own mind.
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He who observes the
day observes it to the Lord
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and he who does not
observe the day to the Lord
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he does not observe it.
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He eats, eats to the
Lord for he gives God
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thanks and he who
does not eat to the Lord,
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he does not eat
and gives God thanks."
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So the issue
here clearly ascended
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around this
issue, issue of eating.
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And there are couple issues
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involved with
eating in those days.
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And they were
certainly many dietary laws
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that were coming
in through the Jews
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in the Jewish
traditions that they had.
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And you have in the church
today that Paul is writing
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or in this day the
Paul is writing to you have
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in the church a blending,
which seems like a perfect
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description for disaster
which have a blending of Jews
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and their traditions in
their teachings and the Gentiles
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which have no
traditional teachings
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from the word of God
who are new converts.
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And there is
this blending together
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and they're
supposed to become one.
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Now do you think
that was challenging?
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Oh, unequivocal.
Just to say the least
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in fact most of
many, I should say
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of the letters of
Paul, are given in regard
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to their fighting
about the traditions
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and their
teachings. That's right.
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And this is one of
those and he is trying to say
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don't dispute and
argue over these things
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that are traditional
or that are teachings
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under the old covenant
system that the Jews had.
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And so this in regard to eating
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could be a one of
the couple things.
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It could be a situation
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where there are not to eat
food offered to idols, okay.
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That is one of the
issues that the Jews
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would not touch
food that was offer
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to other idols and other Gods.
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Or number two this
is issue of, of fasting.
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There was a process the
Jews went through of fasting
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to God and they during
fasting would not eat anything
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or they limited what they ate.
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There were different
ways they fast and there seems
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to be some illusions
there to that is well.
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So certainly what
we're talking about
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here doesn't
seem to be connected
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to the
commandments or the Sabbath day
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but it's connected to
traditions or teachings
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that come from
the Jews as the church
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was formed in its early state.
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And these were primarily,
when you look at the transition
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of the two,
let's just kind of give
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a little bit history and you
did give some of the history.
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The Jews thought themselves
to be superior in many respects.
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You know, we've
got the feast days,
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we observed the new moons,
we have the many Sabbath feast,
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you know, the seven not only
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the seventh day Sabbath
which was given to all humanity.
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But they had the seven
week, the seven months,
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the seven years and they
had the periodical Sabbath
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that had different, at
the Feast of Tabernacles,
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at the Feast of
Unleavened Breads,
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The Feast of Firstfruits,
the Day of Atonement.
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They had all these
observances that were referred
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to as "Sabbaths" pluralized.
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In Leviticus Chapter 23 outlines
all of those observances.
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So now all of a
sudden these observances
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were designed to
point to the work
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that Christ was
going to accomplish.
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So Christ comes
but what you have now
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as you have people that
from more than 2,000 years
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have been
keeping all these feasts.
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You know, they sow custom
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to all these
feasts but then the lamb
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who was a part of these feast
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now comes in the
person of Christ.
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The lamb slain from
foundation of the world,
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the lighting of candles which
is so much part of these feasts,
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in the Feast of Tabernacles
they light the candles
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for seven day
but all of the sudden
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the light of the world comes
now in the person of Christ.
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The Unleavened Bread that
they broke at these feasts
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without any yeast in
it, that they partook
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of even and they
are past over supper
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was so much a
part of their tradition
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that they even try
to indict the disciples
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as to going into the
temple, he didn't--I mean,
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eating grain during
the feel in the Sabbath.
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And the Lord
says, don't you remember
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that David ate this bread?
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Well, the point of the
matter is if you're hungry
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that's what you
do, you eat bread.
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But He said, but this bread
is only for a specific purpose.
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The Lord said, and
the major purpose is,
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you're hungry eat it.
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See they try to
indict David in that respect.
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So, but now all of
the sudden the bread comes
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in the person of
Christ the bread of life.
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So now the-- so the
Gentiles receives Jesus
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the bread of life,
Jesus the water of life,
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Jesus the life of the
world, Jesus the lamb slain
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from the
foundation of the world.
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And the Jews are
saying, wait a minute,
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wait a minute, wait a minute.
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What about the feast?
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The Lord says, look
okay, Paul says, look okay,
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you esteem one
day above another,
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to them all days are alike.
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You've need to eat
certain things the unleavened,
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the vegetables, the
bitter herbs all that stuff,
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which is all part
of their ceremonials.
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But to them hey,
it doesn't matter.
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So this is primarily
pointing out these traditions
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that were heavily
emphasized by the Jews.
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But when they came down to
it, when they came down to it,
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Paul round this up by
saying, look at verse 10
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and this is where I want to end.
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This is why want
to-- verse 8 to 10
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is what I want to institute
and this is show you that really
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the whole focus, Paul
was saying, it's Christ.
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Guys choose whatever you want,
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the whole focus is Christ.
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He was binomial letter
writing the weekly Sabbath.
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"He says for if we live
in" verse 8 of Romans 14,
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"We live to the
Lord and if we die,
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we die to the Lord
therefore whether we live
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or we die we are the Lord's.
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He says, for to
this end Christ died
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and rose again
that He might be Lord
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of both the dead and the living.
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But what you judge your brother?
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Or why do you show
contempt for your brother?
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For we shall all stand before
the judgment seat of Christ."
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Yeah. You're
judging Him about this day,
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you're judging
the about the feast,
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you're judging
about whether or not
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to eat vegetables,
hey, the bottom line is,
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your diet is not going to
save you from the judgment.
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We all gonna
about to stand there.
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So he's not
obliterating the weekly Sabbath,
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he is saying, guys Jew,
gentile what matters is Christ.
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And the weekly Sabbath
really isn't an issue here.
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He even talked about it hear.
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In fact the early church or
you look at the Book of Acts
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there is a clear
delineation between the Sabbath
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and the first day of the week.
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Right. The Sabbath has mentioned
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many, many times is to,
when the Jews and Gentiles
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came together to worship.
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The Sabbath never changed.
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No, they didn't
ambitious with that.
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Even in the transition
from the Jewish system
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to the early church
the Sabbath never changed.
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The seventh will still the same.
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That's right. It was a Sabbath,
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it was according to
the Lord of the Sabbath
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whom they worshiped.
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The first day of the week
some other things happened
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on a couple occasions
there in Acts but overwhelmingly
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the Sabbath is
when they came together.
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And so if you look at
that and that is a tradition
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of the early church now,
that wouldn't be an issue
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that they were disputing here.
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No that's not the issue.
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It was indisputable,
it was un-doubtful.
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The only came into
doubt over centuries later
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when Rome came in and
through the, it is by constantly
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another things there
was a day of festivity
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that was setup along
side of the Sabbath day
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which was the
first day of the week.
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And then slowly over
time the tradition changed
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that Sabbath which was
then begin to be thought
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of the some Jewish
tradition over to Sunday
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which then become the
tradition of the church
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and its worship
services. That's right.
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And so that's only
when the dispute happen.
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But here at this time,
just one day just the Sabbath.
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You know, there is no issue.
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Matter fact, the
Jews, the Gentiles,
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the Greeks whenever the sermons
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were being preached in
the itinerant schedule of Paul
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and Barnabas
and, and Mark and John
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they came on the
Sabbath to hear these words
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being preached to them.
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It was no issue
there so no it's not that.
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The focus of
this was, my brother,
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my sister make sure
that your focus is Christ.
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Because even, let me just
even take it to the next level.
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Even if you are a
strong healthy individual
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doing all the things
that the Bible encourages
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you to do as for as
your health is concerned,
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your salvation is
not based on your health,
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it's still
based on Jesus Christ.
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That's right. That's a bottom
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on you can't escape that.
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And I would also balance
this with one last statement.
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Let's make sure as well
that when we are listening
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and changing thoughts
and the word with each other
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and trying to
arrive at the truth,
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that we don't interpret somebody
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who is sharing
something that appears
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to be truth,
that's in our position to.
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What we have always done,
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let's not
interpret that as judging us.
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Right. Because
just--just because
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you hear truth
that convicts your heart
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that you're doing wrong
and that you need to align
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yourself with what
the word says to do
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what's in
harmony with God's will.
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Doesn't mean, the person sharing
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that with you is
judging you. Right.
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He's simply
sharing what he's learned
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from the word of God
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and he's asking you
to follow that as well.
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That's all. The
judging that has been
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talked about here in Romans 14
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is that the
whole different level,
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it's a whole different thing.
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And that the Jews
were seeing the Gentiles
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as not worthy of being
in church as they what doing
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the things as
they should do them
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and they were
judging their salvation
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their position with God.
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And we have-even in this program
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we've never done that.
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We've saying all people
who are honest seekers of truth
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as God's children. That's right.
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And we just simply
are sharing the words
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that they might
follow Him more fully.
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And that is, it's
shouldn't be interpreted
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his judging but, but hoping
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to shade light
on the word of God.
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Wow, thank you
for that one, John.
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Question here, you
hear many ministers
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say that God the Father and God
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the son Jesus
are one on the same.
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That cannot be true.
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Because Jesus did
not pray to Himself,
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didn't talk to Himself
and didn't resurrect Himself.
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Plus when Jesus was
baptized God the Father
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said this is my beloved
son in which I am well-pleased.
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So if I look at
this, I think this person
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is really asking for a
reiteration or strengthening
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from the scriptures
of the fact that God
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and the--that the
Father and that the Son
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and that the Holy
Spirit are not all
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blended up into one individual.
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I think that's what
the person is saying.
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And so in response to your,
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your question or
your statement, yes, yes.
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There is no blending
of the three together.
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Matter of fact what I like to
do is begin with the scripture,
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that you're alluded to
here in Matthew Chapter 3,
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one of the most
beautiful scriptures showing
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and affirming the fact that,
that there is a distinction
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in body, there is a distinction
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between the Father, the
Son and the Holy Spirit.
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Verse 16, "Then
Jesus, when He was baptized,
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came up
immediately from the water,
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and behold, the
heavens were opened to Him,
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and He saw the
Spirit of God descending
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like a dove and
alighting upon Him.
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And suddenly a
voice came from heaven,
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saying, 'This is My beloved Son,
in whom I am well pleased.'"
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Pointing out a few
things right away here,
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the spirit is also referred
to as God, the spirit of God.
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And then the Father is,
the Father, God the Father.
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So you have the
spirit, you have the Father
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and you have Jesus who's being
baptized separate and distinct.
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Yet one in
purpose, one in mission,
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one in the God head.
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So that's something
that often times--John,
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I think the challenge
here, that's coming up
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as they are some who
teach manifestations of God.
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They are some that
teach in the beginning God,
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created heavens and the earth.
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And then latter on God
metamorphosed into Jesus,
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then Jesus metamorphosed
into the Holy Spirit
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or and then there is a
second view that people
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say well God is
almighty than Jesus is mighty
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and the Holy
Spirit is just a force.
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That's, that's
the second rendition.
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Then they have those
that say, well, you know,
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there is no such
thing as the Holy Spirit
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because that he
just an active force.
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That's just his force are wind
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that is used by
God to impress us.
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And those are-- those
two that I just mentioned
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or the three I just
mentioned are incorrect.
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The true, the truism of
this is, yes God the Father
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and His Son Jesus
Christ eternal fully existent,
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fully divine from
the beginning through out
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the ceaseless ages of eternity.
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They have no
beginning, they have no end,
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the Holy Spirit also
in the very same way.
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So the Godhead is not a--hey,
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when did the
Godhead get created,
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that's a question
that none of us can ever
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have an answer
to not in this life.
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You know, when did
the son get created,
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a person may wake up or
be blown and in five years
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they say, mom I
have the question.
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When did the sun get created?
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And just say, as long as I have
been here it has been there.
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So in the very same
sense, theses are questions
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that may be answered in eternity
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but these are not
questions that I challenged
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I would suggest
that we even try to fine
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a pinpoint
specific accuracy for.
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But is God the
Father and the son the same?
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In many respects they are
but when he came to the mission
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of Jesus and this way
the separation came in.
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When Jesus came to the earth,
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He did not lose His divinity,
He clothed His divinity.
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But then He took on human flesh
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and the difference
between the Father and the Son
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is now forever
Jesus will manifest
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our human-- He will have a
human likeness a body like ours.
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But perfect and
sinless and completely divine,
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He came to be like us.
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The Bible says,
"When the fullness
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of time at come" Galatians 4:4,
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"God sent forth his
son, born of a woman."
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And the Bible says a
body that has prepared.
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So this divine one came in
the likeness of human flesh
00:20:03.16\00:20:06.97
for the purpose of taking on
our sin and paying our ransom
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and being-- and
fulfilling His role
00:20:10.84\00:20:13.43
as the redeemer of the world.
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So forever He is
going to maintain
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the mark of the crucifixion,
forever He will be designated
00:20:16.73\00:20:19.95
as the Son of God
and the Son of man
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throughout the
ceaseless ages of eternity.
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Amen, amen. Very good.
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So, anything
else you have for us?
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No, I think you
explained that very well.
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I think we had
one question, that--
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Oh yes, oh yes.
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It shouldn't take
too long. Daniel 9.
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But a question regard to--
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The 70 week.
Yeah, 70 weeks. Yeah.
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Very good question.
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Dear, John and John.
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Which one does he mean?
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Well, am I
first or you're first?
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Okay, our friend has attempted
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to persuade me on
the merits of futurist
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position on--
the futurist position
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of the 70 week
prophecy in Daniel 9.
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He has given me a
pamphlet to read which discusses
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the command
which sets the 70 weeks
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in motion found in Daniel 9:25.
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I quoted from the
pamphlet and here is the quote.
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There are four possible decrees
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that have to do with
the restoration of the Jews
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from the Babylonian captivity
as recorded in scripture.
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First, the decree of
Cyrus, to rebuild the temple
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in the second chronicle,
secondly, the decree of Darius,
00:21:24.82\00:21:30.99
conforming the decree of Cyrus,
00:21:31.02\00:21:33.24
thirdly, the
decree of Artaxerxes
00:21:33.27\00:21:36.33
and the fourth the
decree of Artaxerxes
00:21:36.36\00:21:38.71
given to Nehemiah authorizing
the rebuilding of the city.
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The first three decrees
refer only to the rebuilding
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of the temple and do
not make the conditions
00:21:45.29\00:21:47.80
set forth by
Daniel in Daniel 9:25
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to restore and build Jerusalem.
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Only the decree
given to Nehemiah in 445 BC
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relates to the
rebuilding of the city.
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My question--
here is the question.
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Although, the
futurist begin the 70 weeks
00:22:00.87\00:22:03.30
at 445 BC I know that the
decree of Artaxerxes in 457 BC
00:22:03.33\00:22:08.67
is actually the correct command
00:22:08.70\00:22:10.93
to set forth the
70 weeks in motion.
00:22:10.96\00:22:13.02
How do we determine
that this is the accurate
00:22:13.05\00:22:16.51
and true decree--
first as the other
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three decrees mentioned above?
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Thank you, for your response.
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I love this question.
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This is by the way an
entire program question
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we're going to seek to
squeeze the grapefruit juice out
00:22:27.55\00:22:30.26
of that very quickly here.
00:22:30.29\00:22:31.64
But go to Daniel 9,
very quickly with me.
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Daniel 9, one of the things
you have to keep in mind is,
00:22:34.40\00:22:38.32
in posing the questions they've
already given the answer.
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How do you give the answer?
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Clearly simple. Let
me use a human analogy
00:22:45.38\00:22:48.24
then I will jump
to the scriptures
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to give the point
very strongly emphasized.
00:22:50.38\00:22:53.82
If somebody said, my
birthday--if somebody says
00:22:53.85\00:22:57.25
John's birthday
that is my birthday
00:22:57.28\00:22:59.63
is on the 7th
month, the 30th day
00:22:59.66\00:23:02.67
of the month of the year.
00:23:02.70\00:23:05.68
The question will be
well what is the, how do you,
00:23:05.71\00:23:09.02
what is the first
month of the year.
00:23:09.05\00:23:11.81
Now in the Jewish economy
they had a civil calendar,
00:23:11.84\00:23:15.32
they had a religious calendar.
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When you look
at these all these,
00:23:18.35\00:23:20.35
decrees given out
Artaxerxes, Cyrus, Darius,
00:23:20.38\00:23:23.27
in order for you to come
to how which one fits well
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is you've got to
look at the timeline.
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And have you ever seen,
John, have you ever seen--
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remember when people
use these transparencies.
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And they would
place those transparencies
00:23:35.13\00:23:37.04
on a reflective light
and then they'll reflect
00:23:37.07\00:23:39.73
the transparencies on the screen
00:23:39.76\00:23:41.58
and as they put
together a piece of art.
00:23:41.61\00:23:45.24
First, they'll put
the head of the art
00:23:45.27\00:23:47.19
on the transparency then
they'll put another transparency
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and they measured up
all the corners together.
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Like that they'll match
the corners up together.
00:23:53.20\00:23:55.15
And then you go from
just to head-alone to neck.
00:23:55.18\00:23:58.02
Then you'll put
another transparency the arms,
00:23:58.05\00:23:59.72
and all because when
you do that to the prophecy,
00:23:59.75\00:24:03.12
when you begin
with the year 457 BC
00:24:03.15\00:24:05.84
and follow every
component mentioned,
00:24:05.87\00:24:09.07
every timeline,
mentioned in Daniel
00:24:09.10\00:24:11.74
and they all
match every single one.
00:24:11.77\00:24:14.73
The only one, that
could fit is the decree
00:24:14.76\00:24:18.74
given by Artaxerxes to restore
and to rebuild Jerusalem.
00:24:18.77\00:24:22.99
That's 457 BC but
somebody was suggesting 445.
00:24:23.02\00:24:28.10
No, the reason why that
is not the date is because
00:24:28.13\00:24:30.95
you see as the
building continued
00:24:30.98\00:24:33.85
there was a brief halting.
00:24:33.88\00:24:35.70
It wasn't completed right away.
00:24:35.73\00:24:38.82
It wasn't completed immediately.
00:24:38.85\00:24:41.36
Right. There was a stage
00:24:41.39\00:24:43.21
where walls are broken down
00:24:43.24\00:24:44.84
and you read that
in the book of Nehemiah
00:24:44.87\00:24:46.57
where people were in disrepair,
where they were discouraged.
00:24:46.60\00:24:49.08
They got discouraged, yeah.
00:24:49.11\00:24:50.22
They got discouraged.
00:24:50.25\00:24:51.28
And so to close up all the gaps
that were remaining in the world
00:24:51.31\00:24:54.66
as what
Nehemiah's commission was.
00:24:54.69\00:24:56.87
But to restore and
to rebuild Jerusalem
00:24:56.90\00:24:58.89
the only commission
given was at 457 BC.
00:24:58.92\00:25:01.92
That's right. And the actual
00:25:01.95\00:25:03.72
one of the untruths of
the statement in the pamphlet
00:25:03.75\00:25:06.22
there was that the
first three decrees including
00:25:06.25\00:25:08.62
Artaxerxes was only for
the rebuilding of the temple.
00:25:08.65\00:25:10.72
That's not
true. That's not true.
00:25:10.75\00:25:12.18
Artaxerxes
actually gave the command
00:25:12.21\00:25:13.94
that we store and
rebuild Jerusalem itself.
00:25:13.97\00:25:15.84
That's right. That's right.
00:25:15.87\00:25:17.00
So that part of the pamphlet
is not, is not accurate.
00:25:17.03\00:25:21.57
You know, one of the things
too I think it's important
00:25:21.60\00:25:23.42
and that is not the only picture
of the futurist's position.
00:25:23.45\00:25:26.52
Some futurists pick
00:25:26.55\00:25:27.61
Cyrus's decree. Oh yeah.
00:25:27.64\00:25:29.24
So there is
several-- this pamphlet
00:25:29.27\00:25:30.90
is happening to pick the fourth
00:25:30.93\00:25:32.57
of the second
decree by Artaxerxes
00:25:32.60\00:25:33.95
but the fourth
decree given to Nehemiah.
00:25:33.98\00:25:37.32
But some also
pick some of the others
00:25:37.35\00:25:38.94
which are the ones
of the popular ones
00:25:38.97\00:25:40.81
that I have typically seen.
00:25:40.84\00:25:42.19
But one of the ways we know
00:25:42.22\00:25:43.31
which decree it is, is
found in Ezra Chapter 6.
00:25:43.34\00:25:46.48
Go for it. And in that verse 14,
00:25:46.51\00:25:52.22
it says here, "So the
elders of the Jews built." Okay.
00:25:52.25\00:25:56.67
And lets see,
"And they prospered
00:25:56.70\00:26:01.81
through the
prophesying of Haggai
00:26:01.84\00:26:03.36
the prophet and
Zechariah the son of Iddo.
00:26:03.39\00:26:05.33
And they built, and finished it,
00:26:05.36\00:26:07.22
according to the commandment
of the God of Israel."
00:26:07.25\00:26:12.18
Now that's interesting
because he is not identifying
00:26:12.21\00:26:15.49
here is the
command is from Cyrus,
00:26:15.52\00:26:17.18
Dairus or Artaxerxes as the
one that commanded it truly.
00:26:17.21\00:26:20.86
But the God of Israel is
also one behind the command.
00:26:20.89\00:26:24.45
"And according to
the commandment of Cyrus,
00:26:24.48\00:26:27.25
Darius, and Artaxerxes."
00:26:27.28\00:26:29.47
So you cannot pick Cyrus
and stop--Darius and stop
00:26:29.50\00:26:34.88
but Artaxerxes is clearly a part
00:26:34.91\00:26:37.29
of the command for
finishing the temple.
00:26:37.32\00:26:39.22
And because it was added
the building of Jerusalem,
00:26:39.25\00:26:43.77
if you look at Artaxerxes
decree it also included that.
00:26:43.80\00:26:47.18
So you'll pick
Artaxerxes as the date.
00:26:47.21\00:26:49.88
So it's another way of
finding your start day.
00:26:49.91\00:26:53.77
And so when you look
at, when you measure up
00:26:53.80\00:26:55.77
all the components 457
BC and it breaks it down,
00:26:55.80\00:27:00.80
7 weeks, 3 score and 2 weeks.
00:27:00.83\00:27:03.37
From 457 BC, 7 weeks,
that's 7x7--49 years later.
00:27:03.40\00:27:09.61
Jerusalem was rebuilt,
exactly the first seven week
00:27:09.64\00:27:13.72
component which was 49 years.
00:27:13.75\00:27:16.99
Then you have
the other component
00:27:17.02\00:27:18.57
when the Messiah was anointed.
00:27:18.60\00:27:20.13
Then you have
the other component
00:27:20.16\00:27:21.26
in the middle of the
week He shall be cutoff.
00:27:21.29\00:27:23.09
The only one of those
prophecies that matches
00:27:23.12\00:27:26.46
without any
discrepancy is the commission
00:27:26.49\00:27:30.20
given by Artaxerxes to restore
and to rebuild Jerusalem.
00:27:30.23\00:27:33.80
You couldn't find it
that's where the rapture theory
00:27:33.83\00:27:36.08
comes into existence.
00:27:36.11\00:27:37.29
Because they can't find
this prophecy happening.
00:27:37.32\00:27:39.33
And the danger
John, this is something
00:27:39.36\00:27:41.03
that I want to add in
Daniel 9 and the reason
00:27:41.06\00:27:43.27
I said to turn to Daniel 9
is because this is the challenge
00:27:43.30\00:27:45.92
where-- this is
the great departure
00:27:45.95\00:27:48.34
from what the
prophecy is all about.
00:27:48.37\00:27:50.62
Notice the main
focus of the prophecy
00:27:50.65\00:27:52.87
and I will show
you this very quickly.
00:27:52.90\00:27:54.85
Daniel 9:24,
"Seventy weeks are determined
00:27:54.88\00:27:57.61
for your people and for your
holy city," that for the Jews.
00:27:57.64\00:28:00.47
"To finish the transgression,
and to make an end of sins,
00:28:00.50\00:28:03.24
and to make
reconciliation for iniquity,
00:28:03.27\00:28:05.09
and to bring in
everlasting righteousness,
00:28:05.12\00:28:06.68
and to seal up the
vision and prophecy,
00:28:06.71\00:28:08.62
anoint the most Holy."
00:28:08.65\00:28:10.26
The focus of this prophecy
is work of the most holy.
00:28:10.29\00:28:13.22
Once again, "Until
Messiah the prince."
00:28:13.25\00:28:15.14
Verse 25, it's all about Christ.
00:28:15.17\00:28:17.17
Verse 26 again,
"After sixty two weeks
00:28:17.20\00:28:20.41
shall Messiah shall be cut off."
00:28:20.44\00:28:22.42
All--its all about
the work of Christ.
00:28:22.45\00:28:24.86
That's the major problem
00:28:24.89\00:28:26.09
in the futurist's
theory of the rapture.
00:28:26.12\00:28:28.61
They're talking about the
antichrist work for 7 years.
00:28:28.64\00:28:31.85
Yeah. This time at
the work of Christ.
00:28:31.88\00:28:34.75
So you got to come
to this conclusion,
00:28:34.78\00:28:36.98
if this focusing
on the antichrist
00:28:37.01\00:28:41.13
then you can accept
the futurist believe.
00:28:41.16\00:28:43.43
But because this is
focusing on the most holy,
00:28:43.46\00:28:46.03
the Messiah, the prince
it only focuses on the work
00:28:46.06\00:28:50.36
that Jesus already accomplished.
00:28:50.39\00:28:52.82
You cannot delete
that that's the history
00:28:52.85\00:28:54.89
and it happened exactly
as outlined in this prophecy.
00:28:54.92\00:28:57.78
Yeah. So anyway, nutshell.
00:28:57.81\00:28:59.50
And also a futurists
position-- this is in account
00:28:59.53\00:29:00.79
for the--well
sometimes they do conveniently
00:29:00.82\00:29:03.90
and sometimes they don't.
00:29:03.93\00:29:05.02
But not the day using
the day, year principle.
00:29:05.05\00:29:07.17
No they're not using
the day and year principle.
00:29:07.20\00:29:08.66
And they're trying
narrow down to one man
00:29:08.69\00:29:10.81
in future coming up and
he is going to be the guy
00:29:10.84\00:29:13.24
that's can do to all this stuff
00:29:13.27\00:29:14.30
and let's not even go
any further than that.
00:29:14.33\00:29:16.90
I think that's the best
place to stop right there.
00:29:16.93\00:29:19.15
It's the false.
00:29:19.18\00:29:20.51
It's not a scriptural prophecy.
00:29:20.54\00:29:22.35
Well, thank you for
your questions and comments
00:29:22.38\00:29:24.18
if you have any more
those you like to send to us.
00:29:24.21\00:29:26.71
Sometimes we get a little bit
00:29:26.74\00:29:27.88
of deep, very deep here.
00:29:27.91\00:29:29.08
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00:29:29.11\00:29:32.01
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00:29:32.04\00:29:36.16
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00:29:36.19\00:29:39.13
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00:29:39.16\00:29:41.80
John, take us into the program
00:29:41.83\00:29:43.53
today on the study part of it.
00:29:43.56\00:29:45.42
Well the title
of the program today
00:29:45.45\00:29:47.33
at least the lesson part
of the program is On-trial.
00:29:47.36\00:29:50.38
Okay. And it's
about the judgment.
00:29:50.41\00:29:52.20
And I know lot
of people when they
00:29:52.23\00:29:53.38
hear the word judgment its going
00:29:53.41\00:29:54.55
to be very negative connotation.
00:29:54.58\00:29:56.89
But one of the things
we're gonna do in this program
00:29:56.92\00:29:59.74
is see how close they
lined the judgment process
00:29:59.77\00:30:04.21
and when it comes to
Christ and His judgment
00:30:04.24\00:30:06.28
of all people on this earth.
00:30:06.31\00:30:08.54
How closely lined
our own justice system
00:30:08.57\00:30:11.41
within in the
United Sates of America
00:30:11.44\00:30:13.13
is to this system that God has.
00:30:13.16\00:30:15.99
Now we know from the beginning
00:30:16.02\00:30:17.62
that our court
system and many of our laws
00:30:17.65\00:30:21.22
and other things
that are governed
00:30:21.25\00:30:23.00
this country are lined
00:30:23.03\00:30:24.32
with Judea Christian
principles. That's right.
00:30:24.35\00:30:26.32
We've heard
that term many terms.
00:30:26.35\00:30:27.62
So it shouldn't surprise us.
00:30:27.65\00:30:29.14
So there are some thing's done
00:30:29.17\00:30:30.28
within God's kingdom
or similar to the way
00:30:30.31\00:30:32.89
that the United States
operates in its government.
00:30:32.92\00:30:36.58
But we're going
to take it is a step
00:30:36.61\00:30:37.86
further today and I hopefully
00:30:37.89\00:30:39.59
we're gonna unfold
some real keen insights
00:30:39.62\00:30:42.24
to help us understand
the judgment a little better
00:30:42.27\00:30:44.41
and to take some of the anxiety
00:30:44.44\00:30:48.41
or some of the fear out
of that judgment process.
00:30:48.44\00:30:50.96
All right. So
first of all we're going
00:30:50.99\00:30:52.98
to start with
who is judge. Okay.
00:30:53.01\00:30:55.78
Who is the judge?
00:30:55.81\00:30:57.25
Now I think there is
some clear statements
00:30:57.28\00:30:58.31
on this and we're gonna
begin with John Chapter 5,
00:30:58.34\00:31:02.58
an unequivocal statement
by Christ himself in verse 22.
00:31:02.61\00:31:07.49
All right. John,
do you have that one?
00:31:07.52\00:31:10.33
I sure do. Okay.
00:31:10.36\00:31:12.74
John 5:22 the Bible says
"For the Father judges no one,
00:31:12.77\00:31:17.06
but has committed
all judgment to the Son."
00:31:17.09\00:31:21.23
All right, so judgment,
the responsibility for judging
00:31:21.26\00:31:25.28
the Father is not going to deal.
00:31:25.31\00:31:26.68
But who is he giving
that responsibility to?
00:31:26.71\00:31:28.72
To Christ. To Christ.
00:31:28.75\00:31:30.40
So then Paul can say
in 2 Corinthians 5:10.
00:31:30.43\00:31:34.64
"For we must all appear before
the judgment seat of Christ,
00:31:34.67\00:31:39.68
that every one may receive
the things done in his body,
00:31:39.71\00:31:41.78
according to that he hath done,
whether it be good or bad."
00:31:41.81\00:31:44.72
So this is something that
simply Paul is expounding on.
00:31:44.75\00:31:47.34
That judgment has
have been given to Jesus.
00:31:47.37\00:31:50.60
Not--the Father
has not retained that.
00:31:50.63\00:31:52.52
And the Jesus is responsible
and He is one we must appear
00:31:52.55\00:31:55.50
for to give account
for what we have done
00:31:55.53\00:31:57.98
while we're here on this earth.
00:31:58.01\00:32:00.11
Now it's
interesting because Jesus
00:32:00.14\00:32:01.61
takes it another step
further this process of judging
00:32:01.64\00:32:05.36
and how it will look
as He is going through
00:32:05.39\00:32:08.83
the process of judging
all human beings, all mankind.
00:32:08.86\00:32:13.56
And so John Chapter 12, I
think it's a real powerful
00:32:13.59\00:32:19.13
text to help us
understand what is Jesus
00:32:19.16\00:32:22.74
actually looking at as
he sits as judge over us.
00:32:22.77\00:32:27.28
And I'm going to read
00:32:27.31\00:32:28.68
from John 12:47-48. Let's see.
00:32:28.71\00:32:35.88
All right. I'm
gonna read with verse 46.
00:32:35.91\00:32:38.04
"I have come as a
light into the world,
00:32:38.07\00:32:40.54
that whoever believes in Me
should not abide in darkness.
00:32:40.57\00:32:44.34
And if anyone hears My
words and does not believe,
00:32:44.37\00:32:48.33
I do not judge him."
00:32:48.36\00:32:50.07
I thought that was interesting
when I first read that.
00:32:50.10\00:32:52.55
You don't believe,
He doesn't judge you.
00:32:52.58\00:32:55.83
But then read on.
00:32:55.86\00:32:57.71
"for I did not come
to judge the world."
00:32:57.74\00:33:00.02
But to do what? Save the world.
00:33:00.05\00:33:01.81
"To save the world."
00:33:01.84\00:33:03.30
So Jesus job, His
main role in judgment
00:33:03.33\00:33:06.16
is not to condemn
us, is to save us.
00:33:06.19\00:33:10.18
In fact He said,
also where He says
00:33:10.21\00:33:12.04
"I have come to seek and
save that which is lost."
00:33:12.07\00:33:15.56
Luke 19:10. Yeah. So that's,
00:33:15.59\00:33:16.94
that's His goal,
that's His purpose.
00:33:16.97\00:33:18.68
But notice this verse
48, "He who rejects Me,
00:33:18.71\00:33:22.98
and does not receive My words,
00:33:23.01\00:33:26.21
has that which
judges him the word
00:33:26.24\00:33:31.26
that I have spoken will
judge him in the last day."
00:33:31.29\00:33:37.17
Okay The word of God
00:33:37.20\00:33:39.42
that was spoken and
given to us is the baseline
00:33:39.45\00:33:43.64
the foundation of judgment.
00:33:43.67\00:33:46.04
In fact when Jesus returns
if you recall in Revelation 19,
00:33:46.07\00:33:49.85
He has called the word of God.
00:33:49.88\00:33:52.77
Word of God, that's right.
00:33:52.80\00:33:54.27
There's a reason He
has called the word of God
00:33:54.30\00:33:56.10
because He is
coming back on the basis
00:33:56.13\00:33:57.76
of His word to judge each of us.
00:33:57.79\00:34:00.66
I mean, He is not coming back
to condemn as His main role.
00:34:00.69\00:34:04.42
He is coming
back and the judgment,
00:34:04.45\00:34:06.43
the whole judgment process
is taking a look at our life
00:34:06.46\00:34:11.14
and whether or not we
have received His word
00:34:11.17\00:34:14.35
and have followed it or
where we have rejected His word.
00:34:14.38\00:34:17.95
The word itself
provides the key ingredient
00:34:17.98\00:34:21.73
for whether or
not we're condemned
00:34:21.76\00:34:23.62
or we're saved by Jesus.
00:34:23.65\00:34:25.99
You know, what I like about
00:34:26.02\00:34:27.16
this whole
thing in this concept,
00:34:27.19\00:34:28.93
not concept but the teaching
of the judge in the Bible
00:34:28.96\00:34:31.56
can get some
people pretty nervous
00:34:31.59\00:34:33.94
when they think, oh, judge.
00:34:33.97\00:34:37.76
The judge is the one
person people don't want to see.
00:34:37.79\00:34:40.40
That's right.
You just don't want
00:34:40.43\00:34:41.52
to--you could go to the mall,
00:34:41.55\00:34:43.08
you could go to but you someone
00:34:43.11\00:34:46.00
who don't go to court.
Court over to the judge.
00:34:46.03\00:34:47.54
I mean, got a notice
00:34:47.57\00:34:48.86
to see the judge its
like, its never good.
00:34:48.89\00:34:51.11
You know,
accepted person dies and,
00:34:51.14\00:34:53.47
you know, the
will has being read
00:34:53.50\00:34:55.25
in court and, you
know, your name mentioned
00:34:55.28\00:34:57.12
in there and you're
beneficiary or something.
00:34:57.15\00:34:58.65
Outside of that nobody
wants to see the judge.
00:34:58.68\00:35:01.47
So this is the
very, very fearful topic
00:35:01.50\00:35:03.25
when you thing about the judge.
00:35:03.28\00:35:04.96
You know, years ago
00:35:04.99\00:35:06.23
we had this saying grown
up, "here comes the judge.
00:35:06.26\00:35:08.63
Here comes the judge."
00:35:08.66\00:35:10.04
Well it's a fearful thing
00:35:10.07\00:35:11.44
and now they're
all judged Judean,
00:35:11.47\00:35:13.17
Judge Mathewson, judge and all
these people that are judging.
00:35:13.20\00:35:16.96
And people in front of them
00:35:16.99\00:35:18.12
are made to look
silly most of the time.
00:35:18.15\00:35:19.32
Oh, it's just like because
00:35:19.35\00:35:20.76
they judge--the
judge never comes across
00:35:20.79\00:35:23.15
as the person who
has done anything wrong.
00:35:23.18\00:35:27.33
But in the setting
of-- in the setting
00:35:27.36\00:35:30.68
of heavenly temple
what I love so much Jesus
00:35:30.71\00:35:34.68
is not just our judge.
00:35:34.71\00:35:37.34
Go to 1 John 2:1 I
want to show you this.
00:35:37.37\00:35:39.91
Because this is
where, this is where heavens
00:35:39.94\00:35:44.12
judicial system
departs from earthly system.
00:35:44.15\00:35:47.79
Because you see
man cannot occupy
00:35:47.82\00:35:49.84
both positions but Jesus can.
00:35:49.87\00:35:52.12
That's right. This
is the beautiful thing.
00:35:52.15\00:35:53.63
Now what's so nice about it is.
00:35:53.66\00:35:55.35
Man okay, I
will read this first.
00:35:55.38\00:35:56.92
1 John 2:1. Look at
what the Bible says.
00:35:56.95\00:35:59.81
"My little children,
these things I write to you,
00:35:59.84\00:36:02.86
so that you may not sin."
00:36:02.89\00:36:05.42
However, this is my word.
00:36:05.45\00:36:07.35
Here it is if
"And if anyone sins,
00:36:07.38\00:36:11.15
we have an
Advocate with the Father,
00:36:11.18\00:36:14.93
Jesus Christ the righteous."
00:36:14.96\00:36:17.43
We've got an advocate.
00:36:17.46\00:36:18.59
Who is that representing?
00:36:18.62\00:36:20.09
He is representing the Father.
00:36:20.12\00:36:21.82
The advocate is
the Father's advocate.
00:36:21.85\00:36:24.25
He is with the Father.
00:36:24.28\00:36:26.33
They're together on this.
00:36:26.36\00:36:28.20
Jesus Christ the righteous.
00:36:28.23\00:36:30.28
Now let us put this in
the setting of a court.
00:36:30.31\00:36:32.97
You go to court
and the judge comes out
00:36:33.00\00:36:36.67
and the
honorable everybody stands.
00:36:36.70\00:36:40.65
And then he walks
around and he then
00:36:40.68\00:36:44.63
he stands next to you.
00:36:44.66\00:36:45.87
I'm not just the judge
I'm also your advocate.
00:36:45.90\00:36:48.66
So what I need to
do is go let you know
00:36:48.69\00:36:50.94
that if you go to
the Book of Daniel.
00:36:50.97\00:36:53.86
Could I go there?
00:36:53.89\00:36:55.41
That's, yeah lets that's
where we're going to next. Yeah.
00:36:55.44\00:36:57.77
Okay, I want to go
to the Book of Daniel
00:36:57.80\00:36:59.09
show you how beautiful this is.
00:36:59.12\00:37:00.38
Because what you have to
keep in mind--okay Daniel 7.
00:37:00.41\00:37:05.61
Yeah, okay let me
see yes, yes, yes okay.
00:37:05.64\00:37:08.94
Daniel 7:21, 22 you
got it on your paper.
00:37:08.97\00:37:11.61
You see, you got to understand
00:37:11.64\00:37:13.22
what's so beautiful
about this whole thing about
00:37:13.25\00:37:15.85
judgment is that when
Jesus says you're advocate
00:37:15.88\00:37:19.29
because he is your
judge there is no fear there.
00:37:19.32\00:37:23.19
That's right.
John, since you have
00:37:23.22\00:37:24.51
it on your syllabus
read Daniel 7:21, 22.
00:37:24.54\00:37:27.81
Because keep this
in mind in the judgment
00:37:27.84\00:37:30.25
we're living in
the judgment hour,
00:37:30.28\00:37:31.59
we're living in the time
00:37:31.62\00:37:32.88
of the
antitypical Day of Atonement.
00:37:32.91\00:37:34.73
And this time of searching
our hearts and laying aside
00:37:34.76\00:37:38.79
our sin will all culminate
in the final, the final verdict.
00:37:38.82\00:37:43.59
Here is guilty,
here is righteous,
00:37:43.62\00:37:46.73
here there is holy,
here there is unjust.
00:37:46.76\00:37:48.91
This is going to be a
verdict somewhere here.
00:37:48.94\00:37:50.96
That's right.
But you got to know
00:37:50.99\00:37:52.02
that when this
verdict is coming down
00:37:52.05\00:37:54.34
that we could
stand in the confidence
00:37:54.37\00:37:57.13
of Christ and not be fearful.
00:37:57.16\00:37:58.80
I'm gonna read, first of
all I will read the verses
00:37:58.83\00:38:00.98
you mentioned 21-22. Yes
00:38:01.01\00:38:02.74
But then I want
to stay in Daniel 7.
00:38:02.77\00:38:04.14
Okay. Because I want to,
00:38:04.17\00:38:05.29
I want to back it up
with this court scene.
00:38:05.32\00:38:07.02
Okay. And we're going
00:38:07.05\00:38:08.25
to expand on that a little bit.
00:38:08.28\00:38:09.39
But look at this.
00:38:09.42\00:38:10.71
Talking about
the fear of judgment
00:38:10.74\00:38:12.31
and so forth but
Christ being our advocate.
00:38:12.34\00:38:14.78
Its says in verse
21, "I was watching,
00:38:14.81\00:38:17.76
and the same horn
made war with the saints,
00:38:17.79\00:38:20.77
and prevailed against them,
until the Ancient of Days came,
00:38:20.80\00:38:24.19
and judgment was made" what?
00:38:24.22\00:38:26.23
"In favor of the
saints of the Most High,
00:38:26.26\00:38:30.05
and the time came for the saints
00:38:30.08\00:38:31.94
to possess the kingdom." Wow.
00:38:31.97\00:38:33.87
When you think about
coming into the court setting,
00:38:33.90\00:38:37.37
when you think
about what do we do
00:38:37.40\00:38:39.15
in this pivotal
hour of our destiny
00:38:39.18\00:38:41.70
and then the Ancient of Days.
00:38:41.73\00:38:44.45
And He is present there because
00:38:44.48\00:38:46.10
the advocate is with the Father.
00:38:46.13\00:38:48.18
That's right.
They're no fighting
00:38:48.21\00:38:49.30
with each other.
Jesus is not saying
00:38:49.33\00:38:51.34
"Dad, dad come on dad
could you let him through."
00:38:51.37\00:38:54.74
Yeah. For God soul of the world
00:38:54.77\00:38:57.86
that he gave his
only begotten Son.
00:38:57.89\00:39:00.07
Let's just reestablish
for God soul of the world
00:39:00.10\00:39:03.83
that he sent us a lawyer.
00:39:03.86\00:39:05.59
Yeah, it's the Father
00:39:05.62\00:39:07.07
isn't the hard man
and Jesus the loving one.
00:39:07.10\00:39:09.97
Right. They're
both one in the same
00:39:10.00\00:39:11.39
and they're redemption.
00:39:11.42\00:39:12.67
And their
efforts to redeem mankind
00:39:12.70\00:39:14.10
to save us and they're all
in favor of this acquittal.
00:39:14.13\00:39:18.59
That's right.
They're all in favor
00:39:18.62\00:39:20.48
of the acquittal.
They're all standing with us.
00:39:20.51\00:39:23.74
There is something-- I
had this revelation years ago
00:39:23.77\00:39:28.86
when I was living in California.
00:39:28.89\00:39:30.08
Actually had this revelation
of the beauty of the judgment,
00:39:30.11\00:39:32.90
I want to share
a couple of things.
00:39:32.93\00:39:34.12
You said, you want to
stand Daniel for little bit.
00:39:34.15\00:39:36.32
Well, we're going to, I'm going
to expound a bit on Daniel.
00:39:36.35\00:39:38.84
Okay. But finish your point
00:39:38.87\00:39:40.06
on where you want to go.
00:39:40.09\00:39:41.12
And what I love
so much about this.
00:39:41.15\00:39:43.88
You see judgment being
made in favor of the saints
00:39:43.91\00:39:48.11
takes the fear away from
the whole process of judgment.
00:39:48.14\00:39:52.86
So if you know the
Lord you will remember
00:39:52.89\00:39:55.96
that you're advocate said,
00:39:55.99\00:39:57.41
I'm not willing
that any should perish.
00:39:57.44\00:40:00.17
I'm not giving up anybody.
00:40:00.20\00:40:02.73
Even in the story of Joshua,
00:40:02.76\00:40:04.74
the highest-- Jesus standing
00:40:04.77\00:40:07.12
there in the favor of
Joshua the high priest
00:40:07.15\00:40:09.67
and he snatches
Joshua from destruction.
00:40:09.70\00:40:12.48
And He says, then the
Lord says to the devil
00:40:12.51\00:40:15.90
"you just upset because I
will snatch him from the fire."
00:40:15.93\00:40:19.13
The devil says, yeah.
00:40:19.16\00:40:21.37
I mean, can you see it. Yeah.
00:40:21.40\00:40:23.56
Can you see it? Lost again.
00:40:23.59\00:40:26.85
And that's one so beautiful
about that our advocate
00:40:26.88\00:40:29.45
is our defense
attorney, He is out Savior,
00:40:29.48\00:40:32.29
He is our advocate
and also He is our judge.
00:40:32.32\00:40:35.44
So what is that
make 1 John 4:17.
00:40:35.47\00:40:40.87
I want to show you this.
00:40:40.90\00:40:42.46
This is what's so nice
about the judgment here.
00:40:42.49\00:40:44.87
1 John 4:17. And this is what,
00:40:44.90\00:40:48.20
this is the departure from
the judicial system of America.
00:40:48.23\00:40:51.47
We have a lot of similarities.
00:40:51.50\00:40:52.86
You know, the number of jurors.
00:40:52.89\00:40:54.35
Yeah. The way it set up.
00:40:54.38\00:40:55.70
The verdict aspects have with
00:40:55.73\00:40:57.31
the
investigations of person's life.
00:40:57.34\00:40:58.75
We have lot of components
00:40:58.78\00:40:59.90
but this is where we
kind of depart a little bit.
00:40:59.93\00:41:03.64
Verse 17 of 1 John 4.
00:41:03.67\00:41:09.07
You want to read
that for us, John?
00:41:09.10\00:41:10.70
"Love has been
perfected among us in this,
00:41:10.73\00:41:13.93
that we have boldness
in the day of judgment."
00:41:13.96\00:41:16.82
That we may have boldness.
00:41:16.85\00:41:18.20
That we may have boldness
00:41:18.23\00:41:19.44
"Because as he is,
so are we in this world.
00:41:19.47\00:41:22.66
There is no fear in love,
but perfect love casts out fear
00:41:22.69\00:41:26.37
because fear hath torment.
00:41:26.40\00:41:28.17
But he who fears has not
been made perfect in love."
00:41:28.20\00:41:31.99
And that beautiful
verse, we love Him. Why?
00:41:32.02\00:41:34.13
Because He first loved us.
00:41:34.17\00:41:36.31
So you have the advocate here.
00:41:36.34\00:41:37.72
You have the advocate here.
00:41:37.75\00:41:39.11
And so when you go to court.
00:41:39.14\00:41:40.46
Let's just put this in
the proper perspective.
00:41:40.49\00:41:42.37
When you hear that
you're court date has come
00:41:42.40\00:41:44.34
and you must
appear before the judge.
00:41:44.37\00:41:46.05
You walk and I called
with great confidence.
00:41:46.08\00:41:48.06
That's right. This
man, why he is so confident?
00:41:48.09\00:41:51.05
He is my attorney. That's right.
00:41:51.08\00:41:53.22
He loves me. I love Him.
00:41:53.25\00:41:55.87
So do you think that the court
is right in your favor? Yes.
00:41:55.90\00:41:59.90
That's right.
Judgment was made in favor
00:41:59.93\00:42:02.70
of the saints because
the merits of our salvation
00:42:02.73\00:42:05.34
is not based on what we
have done in our record.
00:42:05.37\00:42:07.70
If it's based on my
record I'm in trouble.
00:42:07.73\00:42:10.00
Yeah. But if my record
00:42:10.03\00:42:12.27
has been expunged and
the accuser of the brethren
00:42:12.30\00:42:15.41
who accuses me before God day
00:42:15.44\00:42:17.16
and I stand in
they're accusing me.
00:42:17.19\00:42:18.67
And Jesus said, "Okay.
00:42:18.70\00:42:21.96
Show me, show me his sin."
00:42:21.99\00:42:24.40
And the devil will
say "but he was there."
00:42:24.43\00:42:26.17
And He said "but
it ain't there now."
00:42:26.20\00:42:28.24
God has cleaned our record
00:42:28.27\00:42:30.03
that we may have
boldness in the Day of Judgment,
00:42:30.06\00:42:32.54
that we may have confidence.
00:42:32.57\00:42:34.56
These are terms that
are not often associated
00:42:34.59\00:42:36.47
with any court
setting, John, at all except
00:42:36.50\00:42:39.33
if you're the plaintiff.
00:42:39.36\00:42:41.64
You're going there with
the sense of confidence.
00:42:41.67\00:42:43.30
But in this sense that we
are, we are the one on-trial
00:42:43.33\00:42:48.93
and we have the advocate
and the judge on our side.
00:42:48.96\00:42:52.72
Yeah. In the book of Daniel,
00:42:52.75\00:42:55.41
back to Daniel 7, we
know that in many ways,
00:42:55.44\00:43:00.73
in many chapters
and within different
00:43:00.76\00:43:03.14
presentation of
prophetic time there.
00:43:03.17\00:43:06.40
There is a sequential--
a sequence of events.
00:43:06.43\00:43:09.84
A chronological order of sorts.
00:43:09.87\00:43:11.73
Now we know that
it's not always the case
00:43:11.76\00:43:13.49
in the broad scheme of
prophecy but within each chapter
00:43:13.52\00:43:16.99
you have this mini
picture of chronological events.
00:43:17.02\00:43:19.42
Right. And the judgment seem
00:43:19.45\00:43:22.52
always seems to appear
before the second coming.
00:43:22.55\00:43:25.75
Right. And so you cannot deny
00:43:25.78\00:43:28.33
and Seventh-day
Adventist have called have
00:43:28.36\00:43:31.07
had several words for this.
00:43:31.10\00:43:32.47
One is pre-advent judgment
00:43:32.50\00:43:34.53
which is prior
to the second coming
00:43:34.56\00:43:36.02
or investigative judgment.
00:43:36.05\00:43:37.93
That's the
another way of looking
00:43:37.96\00:43:39.46
at it and it is looking
at the record of our life
00:43:39.49\00:43:42.43
and inspecting those,
those courtroom records.
00:43:42.46\00:43:45.30
All these things point to
or alluded to in chapter 7.
00:43:45.33\00:43:50.40
I'm going to
read verse 9 and 10.
00:43:50.43\00:43:51.88
And I think, John, I
think what we're gonna
00:43:51.91\00:43:53.64
do is we're gonna
get a clear picture
00:43:53.67\00:43:55.34
that there is
courtroom in heaven.
00:43:55.37\00:43:56.86
Yes There is no doubt
00:43:56.89\00:43:58.54
so the analogy we're
using of the courtroom
00:43:58.57\00:44:00.77
today is very, very
true in the literal sense.
00:44:00.80\00:44:03.26
Okay. It says
here in Daniel 7:9.
00:44:03.29\00:44:06.63
"I watched till the
thrones were put in place,
00:44:06.66\00:44:08.67
and the Ancient
of days were seated."
00:44:08.70\00:44:11.18
That's the Father.
00:44:11.21\00:44:12.43
"His garment was white as snow,
00:44:12.46\00:44:15.02
and the hair of his
head like the pure wool,
00:44:15.05\00:44:18.06
his throne was
like the fiery flame,
00:44:18.09\00:44:20.12
its wheels as burning fire.
00:44:20.15\00:44:22.02
A fiery stream issued and
came forth from before him,
00:44:22.05\00:44:25.61
a thousand
thousands ministered unto him,
00:44:25.64\00:44:27.96
ten thousand times ten
thousand stood before him,
00:44:27.99\00:44:30.67
the courts were seated,
and the books were opened."
00:44:30.70\00:44:36.25
Now I remember in one
program not too long ago John,
00:44:36.28\00:44:39.75
we looked at
Revelation Chapter 20
00:44:39.78\00:44:41.65
and we noticed that
judgment looked at the books.
00:44:41.68\00:44:45.21
That's right.
These are the books
00:44:45.24\00:44:47.28
and each one of us I
would say has a book.
00:44:47.31\00:44:50.20
But these are the
books of our lives
00:44:50.23\00:44:52.08
as a collective
people on-- in this earth.
00:44:52.11\00:44:55.73
And so the books being opened
is the inspection of record
00:44:55.76\00:44:59.52
of what is going
on, on this earth
00:44:59.55\00:45:02.20
in the lives of you and of me.
00:45:02.23\00:45:05.32
Now, as we read on,
we already read the text
00:45:05.35\00:45:07.96
from verses 21 and 22,
that if you are a saint,
00:45:07.99\00:45:12.45
which means you're
in Christ the judgment
00:45:12.48\00:45:15.09
is made in favor of the saints.
00:45:15.12\00:45:17.68
And that's good news.
00:45:17.71\00:45:19.02
That's good news.
00:45:19.05\00:45:20.58
But let me draw some parallels
00:45:20.61\00:45:22.44
here about this
courtroom scene till today.
00:45:22.47\00:45:24.76
And I know that it
doesn't fit in every respect.
00:45:24.79\00:45:27.05
But in this respect
it's very helpful I think.
00:45:27.08\00:45:29.38
All right. John,
when you're called before
00:45:29.41\00:45:32.63
the judge, it's
this nervous thing.
00:45:32.66\00:45:35.08
We don't really like to
appear before the judge.
00:45:35.11\00:45:36.71
We've already made that plain.
00:45:36.74\00:45:37.86
But one of the things
that you do as a defendant
00:45:37.89\00:45:42.06
coming into a courtroom
is you is asked to during
00:45:42.09\00:45:45.37
the hearing, to enter a plea.
00:45:45.40\00:45:48.25
That plea is one of two things.
00:45:48.28\00:45:50.47
Either you're guilty
or you're not guilty.
00:45:50.50\00:45:55.10
Now the wonderful
thing when it cause
00:45:55.13\00:45:58.17
comes to God's
courtroom is that when you step
00:45:58.20\00:46:00.09
into the court, another words,
00:46:00.12\00:46:02.99
by virtue of
your book been opened.
00:46:03.02\00:46:05.08
When you appear
then before the court,
00:46:05.11\00:46:06.84
Jesus steps
forward as your lawyer.
00:46:06.87\00:46:10.10
That's right.
And he is your judge
00:46:10.13\00:46:12.81
and without you
even having to speak
00:46:12.84\00:46:14.82
He enters the plea for
you and He says my son,
00:46:14.85\00:46:17.88
my daughter is not guilty.
00:46:17.91\00:46:20.56
And He declares us not
guilty by virtue of the fact
00:46:20.59\00:46:26.09
that we believe in
Him-- in His righteousness.
00:46:26.12\00:46:28.34
His works stand in
place of our works.
00:46:28.37\00:46:31.14
And we're seen
as righteous in Him.
00:46:31.17\00:46:34.04
Not because we're righteous
but because He is righteous.
00:46:34.07\00:46:36.35
Now here is the thing.
00:46:36.38\00:46:38.61
When you enter that
plea the trial is not over.
00:46:38.64\00:46:44.06
It's only the beginning
of a trial that takes place
00:46:44.09\00:46:47.51
to investigate the records
00:46:47.54\00:46:50.67
of whether or not the plea
entered of not guilty is true.
00:46:50.70\00:46:55.71
And for the saint or
for anybody who enters
00:46:55.74\00:46:59.74
the plea of not guilty
saying I believe in Jesus
00:46:59.77\00:47:02.80
the record must be
inspected to see is it true
00:47:02.83\00:47:05.99
that they're a
follower of Christ
00:47:06.02\00:47:08.07
or not the follower of Christ.
00:47:08.10\00:47:09.93
So the not guilty
plea is simply by virtue
00:47:09.96\00:47:13.27
of my declaration
that I follow Jesus
00:47:13.30\00:47:16.67
and I trust in Him.
00:47:16.70\00:47:18.58
So the record book
that is investigated
00:47:18.61\00:47:20.81
is whether or not that's true.
00:47:20.84\00:47:23.49
Right. And so this investigation
00:47:23.52\00:47:25.79
occurs, this inspection
of records occurs to see
00:47:25.82\00:47:28.08
whether you're
not your life is lived
00:47:28.11\00:47:29.48
in harmony with
that declaration.
00:47:29.51\00:47:31.93
Now, on the other hand,
let's talk about the other plea.
00:47:31.96\00:47:35.86
Someone stepping before a
court and they do not have,
00:47:35.89\00:47:40.05
they don't
proclaim Christ at all.
00:47:40.08\00:47:42.56
Never have, would they
enter the plea not guilty.
00:47:42.59\00:47:45.26
I mean would
enter the plea guilty.
00:47:45.29\00:47:47.10
Okay. Why is that?
00:47:47.13\00:47:48.27
Because they
never professed Christ.
00:47:48.30\00:47:50.24
They know
standing in God's courtroom
00:47:50.27\00:47:51.92
that they have not advocate
to rely on and depend upon
00:47:51.95\00:47:56.05
and by virtue of
that they are guilty.
00:47:56.08\00:48:00.00
And so the plea is entered
then, they enter the plea
00:48:00.03\00:48:02.17
even themselves
and we're talking about
00:48:02.20\00:48:03.98
the spiritual
applicaton of this--of guilty.
00:48:04.01\00:48:06.88
Now its interesting John,
when you enter a guilty plea
00:48:06.91\00:48:09.76
you don't have a trial.
00:48:09.79\00:48:11.90
You go straight to
sentencing. That's right.
00:48:11.93\00:48:15.84
So, then the
investigative judgment,
00:48:15.87\00:48:18.70
the pre-advent judgment is,
does not involved the wicked.
00:48:18.73\00:48:23.78
It only involves those
who have professed Christ
00:48:23.81\00:48:26.67
name and come before
the judgment seat of Christ
00:48:26.70\00:48:29.65
saying I trust in Him.
00:48:29.68\00:48:32.57
So the
inspection, this investigation
00:48:32.60\00:48:34.76
that occurs that is going
on-- I believe today John,
00:48:34.79\00:48:37.81
is to determine
whether or not those
00:48:37.84\00:48:39.76
that professed Christ
truly are followers of Jesus.
00:48:39.79\00:48:43.57
Wow, wow. And for those
00:48:43.60\00:48:44.63
that are followers of
Christ, Jesus steps forward
00:48:44.66\00:48:46.93
and says my righteousness
stands in their behalf.
00:48:46.96\00:48:49.22
Right. To those
that don't He says,
00:48:49.25\00:48:51.16
I never knew you. Knew you.
00:48:51.19\00:48:53.48
And we find that
in Matthew Chapter 7.
00:48:53.51\00:48:56.24
And so now, I know we
can go a lot of places here.
00:48:56.27\00:48:58.42
Okay. But what the, the point
00:48:58.45\00:48:59.79
I wanted to make
here is he the judgment
00:48:59.82\00:49:01.75
that occurs
before the second coming
00:49:01.78\00:49:03.66
is only of those who
profess the name of Jesus.
00:49:03.69\00:49:07.70
It is not involved the wicked
who have never claim Christ
00:49:07.73\00:49:10.75
as their Savior
because their plea is guilty
00:49:10.78\00:49:13.36
and you go straight
to sentencing for them
00:49:13.39\00:49:15.11
which is after the 1,000 years.
00:49:15.14\00:49:17.00
But today before Christ return
00:49:17.03\00:49:19.39
there must be a
determination in the courts
00:49:19.42\00:49:21.68
above whether or not
someone who professes Christ
00:49:21.71\00:49:24.18
really is a truly
follower of Jesus.
00:49:24.21\00:49:26.97
You know, John, you've unpacked
00:49:27.00\00:49:29.01
so much stuff there
that I just want to dive in.
00:49:29.04\00:49:31.29
now I kind of want
to see, hold a moment
00:49:31.32\00:49:34.29
but let me just
insert a few things here.
00:49:34.32\00:49:36.42
Praise the Lord. You
know, what's so beautiful
00:49:36.45\00:49:38.22
about this, this teaching
that John just put forth over
00:49:38.25\00:49:42.73
the fact that when
you don't profess Christ
00:49:42.76\00:49:44.68
you're already condemned.
00:49:44.71\00:49:46.75
You know, you don't ask for any,
00:49:46.78\00:49:50.04
you can't ask
for anything because
00:49:50.07\00:49:51.73
you don't have an advocate.
00:49:51.76\00:49:53.05
You don't have a
judge on your team.
00:49:53.08\00:49:54.68
You're just, you don't
enter, once you don't enter
00:49:54.71\00:49:58.14
a plea or once you
don't ask for the mercy
00:49:58.17\00:50:01.15
or once your sins are atoned
for you're already guilty.
00:50:01.18\00:50:05.59
I sight John 3:18. You know
00:50:05.62\00:50:08.14
we read John 3:16. We
all know what that is.
00:50:08.17\00:50:11.04
"That you should not perish
but have everlasting life."
00:50:11.07\00:50:12.99
But John 3:17
gives way to John 3:18
00:50:13.02\00:50:17.79
showing you how
this whole process of,
00:50:17.82\00:50:21.18
you don't have a
trial because you're guilty.
00:50:21.21\00:50:24.52
That's right. If
you declare guilt,
00:50:24.55\00:50:27.48
you fall on the, if
you'll say I'm guilty
00:50:27.51\00:50:30.56
then you need to
do that really soon,
00:50:30.59\00:50:35.08
so that you could fall
on the mercy of the court.
00:50:35.11\00:50:38.58
A person who is
innocent doesn't ask for mercy,
00:50:38.61\00:50:41.61
a person who is
innocent asks for justice.
00:50:41.64\00:50:44.25
And the person that
enters an innocent plea
00:50:44.28\00:50:47.33
may or may not in
the end after the trial
00:50:47.36\00:50:50.61
be found guilty or not guilty.
00:50:50.64\00:50:52.91
Right. You see
there is a determination,
00:50:52.94\00:50:54.43
just because you
say, I'm not innocent.
00:50:54.46\00:50:56.22
It doesn't mean that,
that's the final verdict
00:50:56.25\00:50:58.27
because the trial
still must have occur.
00:50:58.30\00:51:00.01
It doesn't mean I'm not guilty.
00:51:00.04\00:51:01.23
Well, no just there is
a final verdict at all.
00:51:01.26\00:51:04.07
Okay. Because when you get
00:51:04.10\00:51:05.72
to the end of the trial.
00:51:05.75\00:51:07.09
The jury comes forward and says,
00:51:07.12\00:51:09.61
guilty or not guilty, right.
00:51:09.64\00:51:11.96
So that comes after
the plea of not guilty.
00:51:11.99\00:51:15.92
The plea at the
hearing that you enter into.
00:51:15.95\00:51:18.47
And this is
similar to the inspection
00:51:18.50\00:51:21.34
of the guest that happened.
00:51:21.37\00:51:23.30
Well, before you go to the guest
00:51:23.33\00:51:24.36
let me read John 3:18.
00:51:24.39\00:51:26.41
The Bible says,
"He who believes in Him
00:51:26.44\00:51:28.23
is not condemned, but
he who does not believe
00:51:28.26\00:51:32.70
is condemned already,
because he does not believe in
00:51:32.73\00:51:36.84
the name of the only
begotten Son of God."
00:51:36.87\00:51:39.51
So do you need it?
00:51:39.54\00:51:40.89
So if you reject your advocate
00:51:40.92\00:51:42.91
you also close
the book on the judge.
00:51:42.94\00:51:45.57
Yeah. And you say,
00:51:45.60\00:51:48.19
I don't believe in
either one of these guys,
00:51:48.22\00:51:50.73
I'm gonna stand
on my own merits.
00:51:50.76\00:51:52.70
Oh, are you going to represent
yourself in the judgment?
00:51:52.73\00:51:56.48
Oh, the challenge with that
is, if you represent yourself
00:51:56.51\00:52:00.29
in the judgment
then here are your,
00:52:00.32\00:52:01.96
here are your transgression,
here are your sins.
00:52:01.99\00:52:05.28
What do we do with that?
00:52:05.31\00:52:06.60
I'll explain each one to
them you just give some time.
00:52:06.63\00:52:11.68
You're gonna
explain 40 years or 60 years
00:52:11.71\00:52:13.95
or 30 years or 50 years of sin
00:52:13.98\00:52:15.67
and then you're gonna
explain them all away.
00:52:15.70\00:52:17.74
All I have got to
do say "his blood."
00:52:17.77\00:52:22.91
Yeah. And you
wouldn't in reality
00:52:22.94\00:52:24.91
be explaining all
those 40 years of sin
00:52:24.94\00:52:26.26
because you would basically
be bowing before the court
00:52:26.29\00:52:28.41
saying you're just in
fare to pronounce me guilty.
00:52:28.44\00:52:31.39
Its an mission of guilt.
00:52:31.42\00:52:33.17
It's a guilty
plea you've entered.
00:52:33.20\00:52:34.98
That's what will happen one day.
00:52:35.01\00:52:36.32
Yeah. That's what is going
00:52:36.35\00:52:37.46
to happen one day and
it'll be very, very careful.
00:52:37.49\00:52:39.47
We have to be very mindful
00:52:39.50\00:52:40.53
of how we judge
because the Bible says
00:52:40.56\00:52:42.56
"For judgment is without mercy
00:52:42.59\00:52:44.60
to the one who
has shown no mercy."
00:52:44.63\00:52:47.11
James 2:13. You
don't show mercy to people,
00:52:47.14\00:52:50.79
you will not get
mercy in the judgment.
00:52:50.82\00:52:53.19
Now there's part
of this experience,
00:52:53.22\00:52:56.49
this reality that
helps us understands
00:52:56.52\00:52:58.51
that once saved always
saved is not accurate either.
00:52:58.54\00:53:00.74
Yeah. Because, just because
00:53:00.77\00:53:03.88
you've profess
your name in Christ
00:53:03.91\00:53:05.36
and you're
justified in Him does not mean
00:53:05.39\00:53:07.83
that you will always, that
will always be your standing.
00:53:07.86\00:53:10.34
That's right. It
just simply means
00:53:10.37\00:53:12.91
you've entered a not
guilty plea by virtue of Jesus.
00:53:12.94\00:53:16.11
That's true. But then
what do you do with the life?
00:53:16.14\00:53:18.38
What does that faith look like?
00:53:18.41\00:53:20.18
Have you been sanctified
and have you been grown
00:53:20.21\00:53:23.03
and have you experienced
Christ as your Savior?
00:53:23.06\00:53:25.31
Well, in the scene of Matthew 22
00:53:25.34\00:53:28.23
where it's a
parallel or picture of Jesus
00:53:28.26\00:53:32.68
coming into inspect the guest.
00:53:32.71\00:53:34.67
We find a guest
there that in attendance
00:53:34.70\00:53:36.98
of the wedding without a garment
00:53:37.01\00:53:38.68
and he is speechless
and they cast him out.
00:53:38.71\00:53:42.19
Well, that's a
picture of the courtroom scene
00:53:42.22\00:53:44.44
because the only way
to get into--by the way
00:53:44.47\00:53:46.28
Matthew 25, the only way
00:53:46.31\00:53:47.51
to get into the
wedding is when you're ready.
00:53:47.54\00:53:49.01
That's right. So
when you profess Christ.
00:53:49.04\00:53:51.60
The reality is at
that moment you're saved
00:53:51.63\00:53:54.75
because you
professed one who can save.
00:53:54.78\00:53:56.85
That's right.
But from that point
00:53:56.88\00:53:58.63
on you have an
opportunity to accept or reject
00:53:58.66\00:54:02.97
the word of God which
means it's the foundation
00:54:03.00\00:54:05.38
of our judge in your life
and practice of the faith.
00:54:05.41\00:54:08.62
And the
inspection, the investigation,
00:54:08.65\00:54:11.45
the courtroom
scene, the inspection of,
00:54:11.48\00:54:13.42
of-- "and witnesses
that come forward as well"
00:54:13.45\00:54:18.80
are part of understanding.
00:54:18.83\00:54:20.98
And God's proclamation
himself is to whether or not
00:54:21.01\00:54:24.10
you're truly a
follower of God or if not.
00:54:24.13\00:54:27.00
John I'm just gonna read
Matthew 7 here real quick.
00:54:27.03\00:54:30.70
Sure. And then I know
00:54:30.73\00:54:32.24
you're going somewhere as well.
00:54:32.27\00:54:34.41
Matthew 7: 21, 22. "Not everyone
00:54:34.44\00:54:38.00
who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,'
00:54:38.03\00:54:39.36
shall enter the
kingdom of heaven,
00:54:39.39\00:54:42.41
but he who does the
will of My Father in heaven."
00:54:42.44\00:54:45.16
The will that is
explained in His word.
00:54:45.19\00:54:48.52
"Many will say
to Me in that day,
00:54:48.55\00:54:50.12
'Lord, Lord, have we
not prophesied in Your name,
00:54:50.15\00:54:52.28
cast out demons in Your name,
00:54:52.31\00:54:53.37
and done many
wonders in Your name?'
00:54:53.40\00:54:54.51
And then I will declare to them,
00:54:54.54\00:54:56.19
'I never knew
you, depart from Me,
00:54:56.22\00:54:58.62
you who practice lawlessness!'
Therefore whoever hears
00:54:58.65\00:55:03.17
these sayings of Mine,
"going back to the word"
00:55:03.20\00:55:05.27
and does them, I will
liken him to a wise man
00:55:05.30\00:55:10.28
who built his
house on the rock."
00:55:10.31\00:55:12.41
So the issue here is,
even that you may have
00:55:12.44\00:55:15.09
except a Christ are you
following Him and His word.
00:55:15.12\00:55:18.96
Because that is the determiner
in the inspection of records
00:55:18.99\00:55:23.15
in the courtroom as to whether
or not you're a true follower
00:55:23.18\00:55:25.98
or you're following
Him on false pretences.
00:55:26.01\00:55:30.47
I'll tell you
when you think about
00:55:30.50\00:55:32.12
this whole concept,
what you say and how you live
00:55:32.15\00:55:36.34
is so huge when it
comes to the judgment
00:55:36.37\00:55:39.60
because as the
saint goes we could fool
00:55:39.63\00:55:42.99
some of the
people, some of the times,
00:55:43.02\00:55:44.70
or all of the
people some of the time.
00:55:44.73\00:55:46.53
But let me just
modify the ending
00:55:46.56\00:55:48.26
you can never fool Christ.
00:55:48.29\00:55:49.60
That's the purpose of
the judgment is to reveal
00:55:49.63\00:55:51.68
whether or not your actions
00:55:51.71\00:55:53.21
have been in harmony
with your profession.
00:55:53.24\00:55:55.44
I know what you'll
say but how do you live.
00:55:55.47\00:55:57.53
There you are. And so
that's why when you look
00:55:57.56\00:55:59.30
at this whole concept of
the Book of Psalms 150 chapter
00:55:59.33\00:56:03.09
of just, oh, we plea
with the glory of God
00:56:03.12\00:56:06.16
but I like the way the book
of Psalms it makes it clear.
00:56:06.19\00:56:09.65
He says "The ungodly
shall not stand in the judgment,
00:56:09.68\00:56:15.39
nor sinners in the
congregation of the righteous."
00:56:15.42\00:56:18.38
The purpose of the
judgment is to make sure
00:56:18.41\00:56:19.95
that when the time comes you're
standing in the right place.
00:56:19.98\00:56:22.93
That's right. Or
where am I going to stand.
00:56:22.96\00:56:24.52
Who, the great day of his
wrath has come, Revelation 6:17.
00:56:24.55\00:56:28.38
I think that's the text.
00:56:28.41\00:56:29.47
"The the great day
of His wrath has come,
00:56:29.50\00:56:31.73
and who is able to stand?"
00:56:31.76\00:56:33.68
And David says "Well the ungodly
00:56:33.71\00:56:35.84
will not stand in the judgment.
00:56:35.87\00:56:37.28
Nor sinners in the
congregation of the righteous."
00:56:37.31\00:56:40.14
The whole issue is
when this is all done
00:56:40.17\00:56:41.73
where you're going to stand?
00:56:41.76\00:56:43.06
I plan on standing
on the sea of glass.
00:56:43.09\00:56:44.90
I know, that's your plan also.
00:56:44.93\00:56:46.18
So the judgment is
gonna reveal where we stand.
00:56:46.21\00:56:48.71
Amen. So I think to
reiterate as we close
00:56:48.74\00:56:52.49
don't fear the judgment.
00:56:52.52\00:56:54.09
Make sure you're
depended upon Jesus
00:56:54.12\00:56:57.00
and you're trusting in Him.
00:56:57.03\00:56:58.10
But also the standard by
which he is set for judgment
00:56:58.13\00:57:01.21
which is His word that
you're following His word
00:57:01.24\00:57:03.74
because that is the
one where you can be sure
00:57:03.77\00:57:06.33
that you have
Him as your advocate
00:57:06.36\00:57:08.41
in the courts of heaven.
00:57:08.44\00:57:10.46
Great are your
tender mercies on Lord,
00:57:10.49\00:57:12.66
revive me according to
Your judgments, Psalms 115:156.
00:57:12.69\00:57:17.75
He is a great and just judge.
00:57:17.78\00:57:19.53
We fear not the judgment
because we know the judge,
00:57:19.56\00:57:22.66
we know the advocate, we
know the person of Jesus.
00:57:22.69\00:57:25.08
If God before us, who
can be against us today
00:57:25.11\00:57:29.38
is your day to choose Him as
your judge and your advocate.
00:57:29.41\00:57:32.23
Make that decision today.
00:57:32.26\00:57:34.00
God bless you.
00:57:34.03\00:57:35.71