Hello friends, grab you Bible and a friend 00:00:01.06\00:00:02.86 and sit back as we explore Gods word together 00:00:02.89\00:00:05.57 on this edition of "House Calls". 00:00:05.60\00:00:07.56 Welcome to another "House Calls" program, 00:00:22.56\00:00:24.94 John and John are in the saddle. Well, actually the seat. 00:00:24.97\00:00:29.28 But we thank you for tuning in because we are always excited 00:00:29.31\00:00:32.09 when you get together and join us 00:00:32.12\00:00:34.93 for good thoughtful hour in Bible study. 00:00:34.96\00:00:39.08 John, it's always good to have you with me. 00:00:39.11\00:00:40.76 It's great to be here again. 00:00:40.79\00:00:42.54 Looking forward to another eventful hour. 00:00:42.57\00:00:44.63 That's right, yeah. We have a really great topic. 00:00:44.66\00:00:46.44 Today we are going to talk about the sanctuary. 00:00:46.47\00:00:48.77 And that's something that a lot of people have heard about 00:00:48.80\00:00:51.94 but not a lot of people are keenly aware 00:00:51.97\00:00:55.00 of its application today. Right. 00:00:55.03\00:00:58.20 And what Christ is involved in as it relates to the ministry 00:00:58.23\00:01:02.84 that He continues to carry on even though 00:01:02.87\00:01:04.85 He is not here in the earth. 00:01:04.88\00:01:06.58 But invite your families to sit down with you, 00:01:06.61\00:01:10.81 maybe church members but even if you are by yourself, 00:01:10.84\00:01:13.66 you are part of a worldwide family, the 3ABN family 00:01:13.69\00:01:16.34 and thank you for being a part of that. 00:01:16.37\00:01:18.27 But before we go into our questions and anything else, 00:01:18.30\00:01:21.20 we always have prayer. John. 00:01:21.23\00:01:23.02 Dear Father in heaven, 00:01:23.05\00:01:24.10 we invite Your presence to be with us here today. 00:01:24.13\00:01:27.90 Lord, we pray that You would bless our hearts, 00:01:27.93\00:01:30.44 warm our hearts. 00:01:30.47\00:01:32.19 Invite us into Your presence as well and speak to us 00:01:32.22\00:01:34.61 as we go through Your word on a topic very important to You. 00:01:34.64\00:01:38.56 Something You are trying to teach us through Your word 00:01:38.59\00:01:40.86 in regard to the work of Jesus for us today. 00:01:40.89\00:01:44.08 In Christ name we pray, amen. Amen. 00:01:44.11\00:01:46.86 By the way, thank you 00:01:46.89\00:01:48.43 for continuing to send your questions 00:01:48.46\00:01:50.35 and your comments to us here. 00:01:50.38\00:01:52.09 At House Calls we do appreciate whenever you send us questions 00:01:52.12\00:01:57.62 and some of you send comments but if you have any question 00:01:57.65\00:02:00.86 that are going on your mind today 00:02:00.89\00:02:02.49 or something you are thinking about right now 00:02:02.52\00:02:03.83 that you like to send, 00:02:03.86\00:02:05.17 send those to housecalls@3abn.org. 00:02:05.20\00:02:08.75 That's housecalls@3abn.org 00:02:08.78\00:02:11.81 and we will do our best to respond to you 00:02:11.84\00:02:14.41 from the Word of God. 00:02:14.44\00:02:15.93 Sometimes we include our opinion 00:02:15.96\00:02:17.92 but we try to stay in line with God's word. 00:02:17.95\00:02:21.02 And John, I've been giving you the first bat, 00:02:21.05\00:02:23.51 so what do you have for us today? 00:02:23.54\00:02:25.45 We have a question from Michael and the question that I am sure 00:02:25.48\00:02:28.46 many parents can identify with. 00:02:28.49\00:02:31.55 It's quite a long question and he--in fact he wrote back 00:02:31.58\00:02:34.09 and he said, feel free to paraphrase 00:02:34.12\00:02:36.12 my question if you want to. That's good. 00:02:36.15\00:02:37.96 Anyway, essentially what he's saying 00:02:37.99\00:02:39.61 is his heart is torn for his kids. 00:02:39.64\00:02:43.36 His kids aren't part of the church, 00:02:43.39\00:02:44.90 his kids don't know the Lord 00:02:44.93\00:02:46.73 and he is just anxious about what to do. 00:02:46.76\00:02:51.52 In fact I am looking here it says, 00:02:51.55\00:02:53.34 the email from Michael but it says, in Christ, Karen. 00:02:53.37\00:02:57.30 So I guess this is mom. 00:02:57.33\00:02:59.55 Anyway I am really as a pastor I feel for you, 00:02:59.58\00:03:03.59 I've had many conversations like this with parents 00:03:03.62\00:03:07.04 and have had to council them 00:03:07.07\00:03:09.65 in almost out of it, almost anxietic, anxiety state 00:03:09.68\00:03:15.60 because they are so torn up about their kids 00:03:15.63\00:03:17.77 and lifestyle that they are living. 00:03:17.80\00:03:19.80 And so just a few pieces of what Karen writes here. 00:03:19.83\00:03:22.68 She quotes a text, she says from Isaiah 49:25, it says, 00:03:22.71\00:03:26.38 "Thus saith the Lord, even the captives of the mighty 00:03:26.41\00:03:29.24 shall be taken away, 00:03:29.27\00:03:30.69 and the prey of the terrible shall be delivered. 00:03:30.72\00:03:35.59 For I will contend with him that contendeth with thee, 00:03:35.62\00:03:39.21 and I will save thy children." 00:03:39.24\00:03:42.18 And so she says here, "I've taken it to mean 00:03:42.21\00:03:44.12 that God would fight Satan on their behalf 00:03:44.15\00:03:46.95 and that He would save my children if I remain faithful." 00:03:46.98\00:03:52.28 And goes on little further down here and she says, you know, 00:03:52.31\00:03:55.98 related to this, "How does intercessory prayer work 00:03:56.01\00:03:59.08 on behalf of another person 00:03:59.11\00:04:00.54 since I know God will never force someone to make Him 00:04:00.57\00:04:03.97 the most important thing in their life? 00:04:04.00\00:04:06.27 Please help me understand this. 00:04:06.30\00:04:07.96 I want nothing more in this life 00:04:07.99\00:04:09.48 than the eternal life of my children." Okay. 00:04:09.51\00:04:14.21 It is heart wrenching to see not only your children 00:04:14.24\00:04:18.24 but friends, loved ones, anyone 00:04:18.27\00:04:20.49 who doesn't know the Lord 00:04:20.52\00:04:22.19 specially in an age that we live 00:04:22.22\00:04:23.94 where we know things are rapidly 00:04:23.97\00:04:27.44 concluding in this world and Jesus is about to come. 00:04:27.47\00:04:31.12 And all I can--it's really tough because all I can say is 00:04:31.15\00:04:34.41 God loves them more than you love them. 00:04:34.44\00:04:38.75 His heart aches to win them even more than your's does 00:04:38.78\00:04:43.14 because of His great love. 00:04:43.17\00:04:44.98 The big thing here to remember is that number one, 00:04:45.01\00:04:48.98 I think you said it, God is a free will. 00:04:49.01\00:04:52.43 He will not over step His boundaries. 00:04:52.46\00:04:55.24 Thant's right. To their desires. 00:04:55.27\00:04:57.41 But He can create situations, circumstances in their lives 00:04:57.44\00:05:00.98 that cause them to sense a need of Him. 00:05:01.01\00:05:04.40 I've seen entire situations created, established, altered, 00:05:04.43\00:05:09.06 adjusted all in God's providence and plan 00:05:09.09\00:05:12.94 because people have been praying for individuals. 00:05:12.97\00:05:15.80 But we've had individuals come up to me say 00:05:15.83\00:05:19.07 and I know it's happened to you too, 00:05:19.10\00:05:20.41 you've been praying for me 00:05:20.44\00:05:21.48 or I know my parents are praying for me 00:05:21.51\00:05:23.25 or I am here a personage as a testimony, 00:05:23.28\00:05:26.02 I am here because my dad prayed for me. 00:05:26.05\00:05:28.54 So I know that prayer does this, 00:05:28.57\00:05:30.69 understanding how exactly that works, 00:05:30.72\00:05:32.67 we don't know all the signs of prayer 00:05:32.70\00:05:34.86 but we can say this. 00:05:34.89\00:05:35.92 Something about prayer, intercessory prayer 00:05:35.95\00:05:38.45 moves the heart of God. 00:05:38.48\00:05:40.25 Not to be more loving or more active towards an individual 00:05:40.28\00:05:44.33 but it almost-- it gives a permissibility, 00:05:44.36\00:05:46.86 an allowance for God to intervene in a way 00:05:46.89\00:05:50.04 that He could not or would not if prayers weren't been offered. 00:05:50.07\00:05:54.95 And you can almost see where this great battle 00:05:54.98\00:05:57.19 that's occurring beyond what our eyes can see, 00:05:57.22\00:05:59.34 Christ versus Satan. 00:05:59.37\00:06:00.96 Satan trying to destroy life, Satan would say, 00:06:00.99\00:06:04.05 "You have no permission, he is mine, 00:06:04.08\00:06:06.12 he resides in my kingdom" and God responding saying, 00:06:06.15\00:06:09.80 "I do have permission because his parents are inviting me 00:06:09.83\00:06:12.88 to come and intervene in this. 00:06:12.91\00:06:15.20 I am here to do and answer their prayer." 00:06:15.23\00:06:17.85 So I think of that picture when I think of intercessory prayer 00:06:17.88\00:06:21.63 that God does do certain things 00:06:21.66\00:06:23.78 and is allowed to do certain things 00:06:23.81\00:06:25.27 because we pray in behalf of others. Right. 00:06:25.30\00:06:28.42 And there's something that I think we need to do more of, 00:06:28.45\00:06:31.77 it's a very selfish thing to just pray for yourself 00:06:31.80\00:06:34.06 and have your own prayer list for blessings of your own. 00:06:34.09\00:06:38.18 And I am included in this, I need to pray more for others. 00:06:38.21\00:06:41.72 I know some of you are very good that 00:06:41.75\00:06:43.82 but I encourage you Karen, 00:06:43.85\00:06:44.99 keep praying for your kids 00:06:45.02\00:06:46.48 because that's the one thing you can do. 00:06:46.51\00:06:48.68 There's something in your email 00:06:48.71\00:06:49.84 that does cause me to be a little concern 00:06:49.87\00:06:54.20 and that is that you mentioned 00:06:54.23\00:06:55.59 that every time they come around, 00:06:55.62\00:06:56.83 you try to encourage them in the Lord 00:06:56.86\00:06:58.72 and kind of push them in that direction. 00:06:58.75\00:07:01.20 I would be very careful on that 00:07:01.23\00:07:02.64 because sometimes by our intensity, 00:07:02.67\00:07:07.49 they can perceive it as obnoxious 00:07:07.52\00:07:10.17 or something that they can even be more resistant 00:07:10.20\00:07:13.22 if you push at a time that you should not push. 00:07:13.25\00:07:16.82 And so I would be very careful when they come around your home, 00:07:16.85\00:07:20.35 when you are there, when they are there love them, 00:07:20.38\00:07:23.03 care for them, show your concern for them as a parent 00:07:23.06\00:07:27.16 but be very careful to venture onto the religious ground 00:07:27.19\00:07:30.99 if they are not open to receiving that 00:07:31.02\00:07:33.16 because you can just push them away a little further. 00:07:33.19\00:07:35.73 I've seen some parents even raising their kids 00:07:35.76\00:07:38.70 actually push them away from the Lord 00:07:38.73\00:07:41.00 by their intensity and their rigorous planning 00:07:41.03\00:07:47.74 and how they raise their kids 00:07:47.77\00:07:49.40 and we have to be careful about that as parents as well. 00:07:49.43\00:07:52.92 Sometimes we-- and I am so glad you mentioned about your dad. 00:07:52.95\00:07:56.75 And I remember that story very well, you know, 00:07:56.78\00:07:58.92 while you are partying and your dad is upstairs praying for you 00:07:58.95\00:08:02.12 and in your frivolous youth. 00:08:02.15\00:08:05.53 He is praying for you to be saved 00:08:05.56\00:08:07.54 and the Lord did come into your life in a powerful way 00:08:07.57\00:08:09.84 and look at you today. 00:08:09.87\00:08:11.33 And then I also have the privilege of writing 00:08:11.36\00:08:13.39 a song called Momma's Prayer 00:08:13.42\00:08:15.56 because I know that after my mother died 00:08:15.59\00:08:18.21 that is the lady who raised me, 00:08:18.24\00:08:20.13 I went out into the world and I remember distinctly 00:08:20.16\00:08:23.27 my sister said, "Before momma passed away, 00:08:23.30\00:08:26.26 she wanted to let you know she prayed for you." 00:08:26.29\00:08:29.52 And I could see that surely God has made a covenant 00:08:29.55\00:08:33.16 and covenant is a beautiful thing because the covenant-- 00:08:33.19\00:08:36.58 when there's a covenant made, 00:08:36.61\00:08:38.46 God commits Himself to keeping that covenant. 00:08:38.49\00:08:41.60 You know, Bible says in Timothy, 00:08:41.63\00:08:46.04 "I know in whom I have believed 00:08:46.07\00:08:49.57 and I know that he is also able to keep that 00:08:49.60\00:08:52.40 which I have committed to him against that day." 00:08:52.43\00:08:55.88 So sometimes parent say, 00:08:55.91\00:08:57.24 "Lord, I am committing my children to you." 00:08:57.27\00:08:59.57 And there's a beautiful story in the Book of Hosea, 00:08:59.60\00:09:01.36 if you ever want to find encouragement, 00:09:01.39\00:09:03.09 read the Book of Hosea about a relationship between a man 00:09:03.12\00:09:07.58 name Hosea and a wife name Gomer. 00:09:07.61\00:09:10.34 And the Lord knew even before they got married that Gomer 00:09:10.37\00:09:14.37 would be unfaithful over and over and over again 00:09:14.40\00:09:17.57 until the relationship got to the point 00:09:17.60\00:09:19.45 where it disintegrated and Gomer left. 00:09:19.48\00:09:21.99 And God said in His word, He said, 00:09:22.02\00:09:23.78 "I will bar a purvey 00:09:23.81\00:09:26.06 that she will not be able to over take her lovers. 00:09:26.09\00:09:28.58 She will pursue them but she will never overtake them." 00:09:28.61\00:09:31.36 In another words, sometimes we have children 00:09:31.39\00:09:33.46 that leave the church, leave the family, 00:09:33.49\00:09:35.78 go out into the world 00:09:35.81\00:09:37.20 and they are so-- I use this phrase, 00:09:37.23\00:09:40.05 they are so determined to just grab on to everything 00:09:40.08\00:09:44.77 the world has to offer 00:09:44.80\00:09:46.91 that they are pursuing it, pursuing it over family. 00:09:46.94\00:09:50.70 In California that, was members of our church 00:09:50.73\00:09:53.37 and one day we got a call from the wife and she said, 00:09:53.40\00:09:55.68 "My husband was raised 00:09:55.71\00:09:56.74 all his life in the Adventist church, 00:09:56.77\00:09:58.90 he went through all the Adventist schools, 00:09:58.93\00:10:00.39 he went through all the-- 00:10:00.42\00:10:01.92 his mom and dad were Adventist Christians 00:10:01.95\00:10:04.82 and one day he just said to me 00:10:04.85\00:10:06.56 after our children were born and some of them, 00:10:06.59\00:10:09.08 they were in elementary school. 00:10:09.11\00:10:10.99 He just came home one day and made the announcement, 00:10:11.02\00:10:12.88 'I am leaving you, I am leaving the family, 00:10:12.91\00:10:15.07 I am leaving the church. 00:10:15.10\00:10:16.18 You haven't done anything wrong. 00:10:16.21\00:10:17.67 I just feel that all my life I've missed 00:10:17.70\00:10:19.40 what the world has to offer and I want to enjoy it. 00:10:19.43\00:10:21.91 I want to find out what the world has to offer.'" 00:10:21.94\00:10:23.86 And to this day, this has been, 00:10:23.89\00:10:26.55 you know, maybe 15 years ago, 00:10:26.58\00:10:27.98 to this day he is not back yet. 00:10:28.01\00:10:29.82 And when you think about situations like that, 00:10:29.85\00:10:32.43 you think, man, how is that going to be reversed. 00:10:32.46\00:10:36.60 But God in the Book of Hosea, 00:10:36.63\00:10:38.63 one of the most beautiful stories, 00:10:38.66\00:10:40.35 I did a sermon entitled "Remembering how it was." 00:10:40.38\00:10:43.20 And when you look at that story, 00:10:43.23\00:10:44.66 it reversed to the point where Hosea, 00:10:44.69\00:10:47.12 where Gomer said after she went out 00:10:47.15\00:10:49.39 and saw that everything she pursued was of no value 00:10:49.42\00:10:52.61 and it didn't bring any lasting joy. 00:10:52.64\00:10:55.36 She said, "I will go and return to my husband 00:10:55.39\00:10:59.48 for it was better with me then, than it is with me now." 00:10:59.51\00:11:03.26 And I know people that have left the church, 00:11:03.29\00:11:04.97 I was growing up with a lot of friends who left the church 00:11:05.00\00:11:07.39 and they went out into the world 00:11:07.42\00:11:08.58 and got involved in all kinds of things, 00:11:08.61\00:11:10.99 some of the women became very permissive 00:11:11.02\00:11:13.17 and God involved in their life 00:11:13.20\00:11:14.23 and the guys got involved in drugs and crime and all that. 00:11:14.26\00:11:17.46 And some of them were fortunate enough by God's protection 00:11:17.49\00:11:20.58 to survive that and come back in the church and are re-anchored. 00:11:20.61\00:11:24.68 And God is just that kind of God. 00:11:24.71\00:11:27.95 But this is the text that I like to share with you 00:11:27.98\00:11:30.60 in the Book of Exodus 14. 00:11:30.63\00:11:34.65 It is amazing that sometimes we feel that it's better for us 00:11:34.68\00:11:41.36 to live the way we want to live 00:11:41.39\00:11:44.34 and but God gives a message in these two verses, 00:11:44.37\00:11:46.59 these-- actually and we see, these three verses. 00:11:46.62\00:11:51.06 Okay, I will give you four verses, all right. 00:11:51.09\00:11:53.53 We just go ahead, do I hear, do I hear five? 00:11:53.56\00:11:56.53 Four verses here in Exodus 14, starting with verse 12. 00:11:56.56\00:12:00.70 Now, what I want to get the context here 00:12:00.73\00:12:03.37 is the Lord has led His children out of Egypt. 00:12:03.40\00:12:07.49 They are no longer under the bondage of pharaoh and his army. 00:12:07.52\00:12:10.50 They are no longer slaves in Egypt. 00:12:10.53\00:12:12.48 Let me put that in context. 00:12:12.51\00:12:14.02 As the Christian they are no longer-- 00:12:14.05\00:12:15.62 they are not in the world, 00:12:15.65\00:12:17.41 they are no longer under the power of the world 00:12:17.44\00:12:19.35 but look at what happens. 00:12:19.38\00:12:20.73 In their Christian journey, 00:12:20.76\00:12:22.03 in the journey towards the Promised Land, 00:12:22.06\00:12:23.88 look at that they said in verse 12, 00:12:23.91\00:12:26.69 "Is this not the word that we told you in Egypt, 00:12:26.72\00:12:31.41 saying, let us alone, that we may serve the Egyptians?" 00:12:31.44\00:12:34.70 In another words, we like that, 00:12:34.73\00:12:36.61 I mean we want to do that. 00:12:36.64\00:12:38.36 And then he said, 00:12:38.39\00:12:39.42 "For it would have been better for us to serve the Egyptians, 00:12:39.45\00:12:42.71 than that we should die in the wilderness." 00:12:42.74\00:12:45.08 And they thought that God had brought them 00:12:45.11\00:12:46.91 to the wilderness experience for their detriment 00:12:46.94\00:12:50.53 rather than for their salvation 00:12:50.56\00:12:52.78 but I like what the response was. 00:12:52.81\00:12:54.73 And sometimes we have to remember 00:12:54.76\00:12:56.98 that God is fighting these battles. 00:12:57.01\00:12:59.16 Verse 13, "And Moses said to the people, do not be afraid." 00:12:59.19\00:13:03.09 And sometimes parents, you have to do this. 00:13:03.12\00:13:05.48 "Stand still, and see the salvation of the Lord, 00:13:05.51\00:13:08.90 which he will accomplish for you today, 00:13:08.93\00:13:11.36 for the Egyptians whom you see today, 00:13:11.39\00:13:14.06 you shall see again no more for ever." 00:13:14.09\00:13:16.42 And this is the thing you have to remember. 00:13:16.45\00:13:18.58 "The Lord will fight for you, and you shall hold your peace. 00:13:18.61\00:13:22.25 And the Lord said to Moses, 'Why do you cry to me? 00:13:22.28\00:13:24.42 Tell the children of Israel to go forward.'" 00:13:24.45\00:13:28.00 So when your children realize that Lord is fighting for them, 00:13:28.03\00:13:31.92 you got to say to them, 00:13:31.95\00:13:33.43 the only responsibility you have is to go forward. 00:13:33.46\00:13:36.79 Keep going forward in Lord 00:13:36.82\00:13:38.67 and but sometimes we just have to be intermediary 00:13:38.70\00:13:41.83 in our approach to fighting these battles 00:13:41.86\00:13:44.33 that sometimes our children are completely unaware of, 00:13:44.36\00:13:48.79 of what their lives really all about. 00:13:48.82\00:13:51.62 The lady that raised me 00:13:51.65\00:13:52.68 she died before I went out into the world. 00:13:52.71\00:13:57.07 I went out there and so to speak as we say, 00:13:57.10\00:13:59.56 did my own thing which in fact was the devil's thing. 00:13:59.59\00:14:01.84 We know how that goes. 00:14:01.87\00:14:04.31 But I am back now and how wonderful it's gong to be 00:14:04.34\00:14:08.11 to see that all of her prayers that she prayed did pay off. 00:14:08.14\00:14:11.89 God does honor those who make a covenant with Him. 00:14:11.92\00:14:15.23 And that covenant is a covenant by sacrifice. 00:14:15.26\00:14:17.28 Father, I am going to keep my children before You, 00:14:17.31\00:14:19.95 You just save them for me. 00:14:19.98\00:14:21.77 So don't lose heart. 00:14:21.80\00:14:23.69 God will do it in His way and in His time. 00:14:23.72\00:14:26.36 We have to be patient with His way. Yeah. 00:14:26.39\00:14:28.06 And His time. And that is key. 00:14:28.09\00:14:30.51 He does it in His way, in His time. 00:14:30.54\00:14:32.45 I got a little letter from a guy name Gary. 00:14:32.48\00:14:34.43 He said my mother died three years ago, 00:14:34.46\00:14:36.63 once in a while I see her in my bedroom, 00:14:36.66\00:14:39.33 it makes me scare but I talk to her. 00:14:39.36\00:14:42.35 How do I know it is her 00:14:42.38\00:14:44.13 and what should I do when I see her again? 00:14:44.16\00:14:47.48 Why am I scared? 00:14:47.51\00:14:50.55 Amazing question. 00:14:50.58\00:14:52.30 Well, okay, first of all once in a while, 00:14:52.33\00:14:55.36 hmm-- I see my-- I see her. 00:14:55.39\00:14:58.28 Let's go through a couple of passages in Bible. 00:14:58.31\00:15:01.20 Let's go to the Book of Ecclesiastes first. 00:15:01.23\00:15:05.66 Gary, let me encourage you, 00:15:05.69\00:15:06.85 it is not your mom, that's why you are scared. 00:15:06.88\00:15:11.65 I could say that clearly, it is not your mom 00:15:11.68\00:15:15.22 because when your mom was alive you weren't scared 00:15:15.25\00:15:18.62 because you had an open communication with her 00:15:18.65\00:15:21.76 and there was nothing preventing you from speaking to her and-- 00:15:21.79\00:15:27.36 but there's a reason why you are fearful. 00:15:27.39\00:15:29.78 There's an eighth sense that there's something wrong here 00:15:29.81\00:15:33.71 and this is the reason why. 00:15:33.74\00:15:36.74 Ecclesiastes 9:5-6. 00:15:36.77\00:15:41.73 It says, "For the living knows that they will die 00:15:44.75\00:15:49.75 but the dead know nothing, 00:15:49.78\00:15:52.99 and they have no more reward for the memory of them is forgotten. 00:15:53.02\00:15:57.84 Also their love," Verse 6, "their hatred, 00:15:57.87\00:16:01.86 and their envy have now perished. 00:16:01.89\00:16:04.15 Nevermore will they have a share in anything done under the sun." 00:16:04.18\00:16:08.73 Now you can jump down to verse 10, 00:16:08.76\00:16:11.83 "Whatever your hand finds to do, 00:16:11.86\00:16:14.52 do it with your might for there is no work 00:16:14.55\00:16:17.42 or device or knowledge or wisdom 00:16:17.45\00:16:20.41 in the grave where you are going." 00:16:20.44\00:16:23.52 So what you see here is it cannot be your mother 00:16:23.55\00:16:26.10 because the dead don't know anything. 00:16:26.13\00:16:28.20 And even further more than that it says she can't love, 00:16:28.23\00:16:32.95 she can't hate, she can't envy 00:16:32.98\00:16:35.18 because once she died everything died along with her. 00:16:35.21\00:16:38.78 Emotions died, feelings died, the love died. 00:16:38.81\00:16:42.89 In another words what you are seeing is-- 00:16:42.92\00:16:45.91 and I want to just be very candid with you, 00:16:45.94\00:16:48.97 what you are seeing is satanic apparitions 00:16:49.00\00:16:52.54 that are trying to communicate with you 00:16:52.57\00:16:55.46 and create some kind of open dialogue 00:16:55.49\00:16:57.44 between you and an entity that is not your mom. 00:16:57.47\00:17:00.80 So I would recommend that you pray, 00:17:00.83\00:17:03.47 if that happens again pray and you pray in the name of Jesus. 00:17:03.50\00:17:07.06 Say, Lord, I know this is not my mother. 00:17:07.09\00:17:09.76 I am praying for you to remove whatever this is from my room 00:17:09.79\00:17:13.20 and never allow it to come here again. 00:17:13.23\00:17:15.10 And the Bible says, 00:17:15.13\00:17:16.16 when you pray and ask for the Lord to help, 00:17:16.19\00:17:17.80 He will, He will remove, He will step forward in your behalf. 00:17:17.83\00:17:22.29 John, a lot of times we have these-- 00:17:22.32\00:17:24.54 you and I talked about this yesterday as a matter of fact 00:17:24.57\00:17:26.90 how movies are becoming more and more and more demonic. 00:17:26.93\00:17:32.63 It's like there's a thirst 00:17:32.66\00:17:34.26 and many of them have to do with the after life 00:17:34.29\00:17:37.12 and encounters and people seeing nothing 00:17:37.15\00:17:38.99 but while they are laying in their bed their feet are pulled 00:17:39.02\00:17:41.39 or doors are slamming or they are being elevated, 00:17:41.42\00:17:44.30 I mean, levitated from their beds. 00:17:44.33\00:17:46.49 I mean, what do you make of all this? 00:17:46.52\00:17:48.02 Well, I tell you, it's conditioning our mind 00:17:48.05\00:17:51.77 to think more and more along these terms 00:17:51.80\00:17:54.07 and this is how the devil works 00:17:54.10\00:17:56.47 but in fact with this example, what is the man's name, Gary? 00:17:56.50\00:18:01.06 Gary, yeah. 00:18:01.09\00:18:02.19 In Gary's situation the devil works quite differently. 00:18:02.22\00:18:05.10 He comes as a family member. 00:18:05.13\00:18:08.19 And this is the way that he works. 00:18:08.22\00:18:10.46 In fact from a very old, long, long ago 00:18:10.49\00:18:14.35 we see in the scriptures that he work in this way 00:18:14.38\00:18:17.43 where Saul who was king of Israel went to see a witch, 00:18:17.46\00:18:22.34 a medium at Endor and when he went to see her he said, 00:18:22.37\00:18:27.84 "Will you call up Samuel for me?" 00:18:27.87\00:18:30.22 And this witch calls up what appeared to be Samuel. 00:18:30.25\00:18:34.84 So this demonic spirit comes up as Samuel, 00:18:34.87\00:18:38.13 looks like Samuel, sounds like Samuel. 00:18:38.16\00:18:41.09 It's not Samuel, I mean the witch is the one calling him up, 00:18:41.12\00:18:44.07 not God bringing him down. 00:18:44.10\00:18:45.48 He is coming up from the ground 00:18:45.51\00:18:47.61 and so this is clearly a demonic spirit 00:18:47.64\00:18:50.05 but he looks and sounds and the senses say that it is Samuel. 00:18:50.08\00:18:55.09 This is the way the devil works 00:18:55.12\00:18:56.77 and he does this throughout scripture. 00:18:56.80\00:18:58.99 And it's a great deception for not only him 00:18:59.02\00:19:02.82 but it's a tactic that he uses to open our minds, 00:19:02.85\00:19:05.60 our hearts to messages that are from his kingdom 00:19:05.63\00:19:09.85 rather than the messages that come from God. 00:19:09.88\00:19:11.78 Which is why God gave strict rules, 00:19:11.81\00:19:13.94 never consult mediums, spiritist, 00:19:13.97\00:19:17.18 anyone that contacts the dead 00:19:17.21\00:19:19.26 because the dead know nothing 00:19:19.29\00:19:21.88 and who you are actually coming in contact with 00:19:21.91\00:19:24.47 is not a family member but is in fact demonic spirits. 00:19:24.50\00:19:27.89 Matter of fact, there's a new terminology 00:19:27.92\00:19:31.23 and I want to share a couple of passages 00:19:31.26\00:19:32.53 with you in the Book of Job, 00:19:32.56\00:19:34.08 Job said so much about what happens when a person dies. 00:19:34.11\00:19:37.84 You know why, because he felt he was facing death. 00:19:37.87\00:19:40.89 And you know, Job 7, Job 14, Job 19, Job 17. 00:19:40.92\00:19:46.66 I want to share a few passages here 00:19:46.69\00:19:48.94 and then make a couple of comments. 00:19:48.97\00:19:50.79 Job 7:9-10. Job 7:9-10. 00:19:50.82\00:19:57.13 In verse 9, he says, "As the cloud disappears 00:19:57.16\00:20:00.39 and vanishes away, so he who goes down 00:20:00.42\00:20:04.53 to the grave does not come up. 00:20:04.56\00:20:09.02 He shall never return to his house, 00:20:09.05\00:20:12.28 nor shall his place know him any more." 00:20:12.31\00:20:14.88 So it's not your mom coming back to your house, 00:20:14.91\00:20:17.14 it's something all together different. 00:20:17.17\00:20:18.42 John was making it very, very clear here 00:20:18.45\00:20:20.43 that that's not your mom. 00:20:20.46\00:20:22.70 The devil is trying to make an inroads 00:20:22.73\00:20:25.18 and this is how people are innocently drawn 00:20:25.21\00:20:28.73 into something a word called spiritualism 00:20:28.76\00:20:32.30 because there's a spirit there. 00:20:32.33\00:20:34.38 The Bible also talks about familiar spirits 00:20:34.41\00:20:37.77 from which we get the word family. 00:20:37.80\00:20:39.93 And so how much more welcoming would a person be. 00:20:39.96\00:20:43.88 I remember a story of a family that talked about a little girl 00:20:43.91\00:20:47.16 who had died and this is really sad but, 00:20:47.19\00:20:50.26 and the mother so missed that girl, 00:20:50.29\00:20:53.08 she lamented and cried and after about a few months 00:20:53.11\00:20:57.43 after this girl died, she started 00:20:57.46\00:21:00.22 seeing apparitions of this girl in the home. 00:21:00.25\00:21:04.05 And then it got-- it went from apparition 00:21:04.08\00:21:05.96 to something actually manifesting itself 00:21:05.99\00:21:08.52 and the mother would reach out and pick her up 00:21:08.55\00:21:10.77 and put her on her lap and have conversations with her. 00:21:10.80\00:21:14.17 And after a few months of this kind of activity 00:21:14.20\00:21:16.37 she finally decided to reveal it to her husband 00:21:16.40\00:21:19.24 who was a Christian. 00:21:19.27\00:21:20.30 This family was a Christian. 00:21:20.33\00:21:21.63 But the mother had so lamented 00:21:21.66\00:21:23.20 over the loss of their daughter, 00:21:23.23\00:21:24.35 the little daughter of 5, 6 years old. 00:21:24.38\00:21:27.31 She finally revealed it to her husband 00:21:27.34\00:21:29.07 and her husband-- 00:21:29.10\00:21:30.97 and I am using the phrase here not physically 00:21:31.00\00:21:32.80 but shook her back into reality saying, 00:21:32.83\00:21:34.34 "Honey, that's not our daughter. 00:21:34.37\00:21:36.07 That's a demon in our home." 00:21:36.10\00:21:38.15 And they got together and they besiege the Lord, 00:21:38.18\00:21:40.87 they prayed, they prayed and it never happened again. 00:21:40.90\00:21:44.16 And his-- remember it distinctly 00:21:44.19\00:21:45.90 the wife communicating into story, 00:21:45.93\00:21:47.39 she said, her husband told her when this happens again 00:21:47.42\00:21:50.51 because what happened the way she described 00:21:50.54\00:21:52.28 it was the thing would manifest itself and say, 00:21:52.31\00:21:55.63 "Mommy, mommy" and in a crying type of tone 00:21:55.66\00:21:59.56 and the mother would break down 00:21:59.59\00:22:00.73 over the loss of their daughter 00:22:00.76\00:22:01.91 and put her arms out and embrace her 00:22:01.94\00:22:03.59 and the next thing you know 00:22:03.62\00:22:04.65 she's having these conversations with her. 00:22:04.68\00:22:06.81 And the husband said, this what you need to do 00:22:06.84\00:22:08.13 when it happens again, in the name of Jesus 00:22:08.16\00:22:10.71 you know be gone or he gave some specific words to say 00:22:10.74\00:22:16.26 and how to pray and it ceased to happen. 00:22:16.29\00:22:19.85 And I've had people at my church, 00:22:19.88\00:22:21.85 one of the churches I pastor in California. 00:22:21.88\00:22:23.95 They would be sitting down having dinner. 00:22:23.98\00:22:26.09 And they say, "Oh, we have this friendly ghost. 00:22:26.12\00:22:27.93 She's a female ghost and she shows up 00:22:27.96\00:22:29.91 around dinner time. 00:22:29.94\00:22:30.97 She's really funny, she always cracks jokes." 00:22:31.00\00:22:33.84 And all the family members are seeing this. 00:22:33.87\00:22:38.30 And I am saying, "That is not funny." 00:22:38.33\00:22:41.60 That's how Satan is seeking to find a way in by this. 00:22:41.63\00:22:44.16 And they said, "Oh, she is so funny." 00:22:44.19\00:22:45.38 And we had one of the family members, 00:22:45.41\00:22:49.13 I won't mention his name but he said, 00:22:49.16\00:22:52.00 "I don't laugh because I know it's satanic. 00:22:52.03\00:22:54.62 I know it's demonic." 00:22:54.65\00:22:55.84 But the father, the mother, 00:22:55.87\00:22:56.90 the daughter, they laughed about it. 00:22:56.93\00:23:00.05 They all says, "It always crack jokes, makes us laugh." 00:23:00.08\00:23:02.97 And I said, "Where does this thing show up?" 00:23:03.00\00:23:05.51 By the refrigerator in the kitchen 00:23:05.54\00:23:08.07 while we are sitting there having dinner. 00:23:08.10\00:23:10.70 And I said, I told the father, said, 00:23:10.73\00:23:12.93 "You know what, that's an evil spirit trying to find-- 00:23:12.96\00:23:16.81 Well, has found a way in your home 00:23:16.84\00:23:18.92 and you are entertaining it because you are laughing at it." 00:23:18.95\00:23:21.34 And I said, "Here's what you need to do." 00:23:21.37\00:23:22.90 And the brother, that's, oh, it's not even a threat 00:23:22.93\00:23:25.31 and the son said, "I will do it next time it happens." 00:23:25.34\00:23:28.34 And he did it and it never happened again. 00:23:28.37\00:23:31.12 And it's really amazing. Now-- 00:23:31.15\00:23:33.25 Good for the son stepping up. 00:23:33.28\00:23:34.84 It's really amazing, the devil manifest himself 00:23:34.87\00:23:37.29 in certain ways all he's wanting to do 00:23:37.32\00:23:38.93 is find a way in, that's the reality. 00:23:38.96\00:23:41.41 A couple of more text here in Job 17 00:23:41.44\00:23:44.59 and there's a phrase that's been used 00:23:44.62\00:23:46.33 nowadays in a lot of funerals. 00:23:46.36\00:23:48.25 I've heard this on television, I've heard it 00:23:48.28\00:23:51.35 when I've gone to funerals of denominations 00:23:51.38\00:23:54.71 that where the pastor obviously 00:23:54.74\00:23:56.63 don't believe that the dead know nothing. 00:23:56.66\00:23:59.51 They use this phrase, 00:23:59.54\00:24:01.51 "We're having a home going service." 00:24:01.54\00:24:04.83 Like they are going home, you know, heaven is my home. 00:24:04.86\00:24:08.28 They use this home going service. 00:24:08.31\00:24:10.66 And they are using these terminologies 00:24:10.69\00:24:12.68 to somehow plant seeds in people's minds that, 00:24:12.71\00:24:17.32 Oh, they are home with the Lord. 00:24:17.35\00:24:20.02 And they fail to realize that in 1 Thessalonians 00:24:20.05\00:24:22.29 and I will have you read that in just a minute, 00:24:22.32\00:24:24.21 they fail to realize that they are not home in heaven. 00:24:24.24\00:24:27.93 They are in the grave. 00:24:27.96\00:24:29.25 So I said, it is a home going service 00:24:29.28\00:24:31.00 and here's the text that I added to it. 00:24:31.03\00:24:33.16 It is a home going service but to what home? 00:24:33.19\00:24:35.72 Here's Job 17, listen to this. 00:24:35.75\00:24:40.02 He says in verse 13, "If I wait for the grave 00:24:40.05\00:24:43.80 as my house, If I make my bed in the darkness, 00:24:43.83\00:24:50.91 If I say to corruption, 'You are my father,' 00:24:50.94\00:24:53.46 And to the worms, 'You are my mother and my sisters.' 00:24:53.49\00:24:57.37 Where then is my hope? 00:24:57.40\00:24:59.70 As for my hopes, who can see it? 00:24:59.73\00:25:02.57 Will they go down to the gates of Sheol, 00:25:02.60\00:25:05.05 that is to the grave. 00:25:05.08\00:25:07.01 Shall we have rest together in the dust?" 00:25:07.04\00:25:12.13 The dust is his house, the grave is his house. 00:25:12.16\00:25:14.81 That's where he will go. 00:25:14.84\00:25:15.89 Yes, so if you are having a home going service, 00:25:15.92\00:25:17.29 you are going home. Home to the grave. 00:25:17.32\00:25:19.52 You are not going home to heaven 00:25:19.55\00:25:20.60 until Jesus comes back and that's the promise 00:25:20.63\00:25:23.11 He made to His disciples in John 14. 00:25:23.14\00:25:26.72 Here's another one, Job 14, 00:25:26.75\00:25:29.48 replete with passages about what happens. 00:25:29.51\00:25:32.57 It also shows you in this chapter, 00:25:32.60\00:25:34.87 Job 14 that men are not coming back. 00:25:34.90\00:25:40.66 when they go to the grave, 00:25:40.69\00:25:41.72 they are not coming back to have any interaction. 00:25:41.75\00:25:43.70 Here is Job 14:7, it says, "For there is hope for a tree. 00:25:43.73\00:25:50.54 If it is cut down, that it will sprout again, 00:25:50.57\00:25:53.47 and that its tender shoots will not cease. 00:25:53.50\00:25:56.68 Though its roots may grow old in the earth 00:25:56.71\00:25:59.39 and its stump may die in the ground, 00:25:59.42\00:26:01.53 yet at the scent of water it will bud 00:26:01.56\00:26:04.28 and bring forth branches like a plant. 00:26:04.31\00:26:06.88 But--" Verse 10, you have it there? 00:26:06.91\00:26:09.84 No, I went to 1 Thessalonians. 00:26:09.87\00:26:11.12 Okay. But it says in verse 10, 00:26:11.15\00:26:13.28 "But man dies and is laid away. 00:26:13.31\00:26:16.26 Indeed he breathes his last and where is he. 00:26:16.29\00:26:20.89 As water disappears from the sea 00:26:20.92\00:26:22.74 and a river becomes parched and dry up. 00:26:22.77\00:26:25.66 So man lies down and does not rise 00:26:25.69\00:26:28.36 till the heavens are no more. 00:26:28.39\00:26:30.37 They will not awake nor be roused from their sleep. 00:26:30.40\00:26:33.53 All that you would hide me in the grave 00:26:33.56\00:26:35.86 that you would conceal me until your wrath has passed." 00:26:35.89\00:26:39.63 And then he says in verse 10--verse 21, 00:26:39.66\00:26:42.23 "His sons come to honored and he does not know it. 00:26:42.26\00:26:45.33 They are brought low and he does not perceive it." 00:26:45.36\00:26:48.69 So all these things that are happening after a person dies. 00:26:48.72\00:26:53.03 The dead don't know what's going on 00:26:53.06\00:26:55.43 because they are waiting for the coming of the Lord. 00:26:55.46\00:26:57.94 In 1 Thessalonians, I think it's Chapter 4:13-18, 00:26:57.97\00:27:02.02 pulls it all together. 00:27:02.05\00:27:03.54 Well, it talks about here, those who are sleeping in Jesus. 00:27:03.57\00:27:07.11 Right. And the resurrection. 00:27:07.14\00:27:08.74 In fact everything points to the resurrection 00:27:08.77\00:27:11.56 as the next time that those who have died will live again. 00:27:11.59\00:27:16.19 It says, "For if we believe--" 00:27:16.22\00:27:17.92 and this is verse 14, "that Jesus died and rose again. 00:27:17.95\00:27:21.07 Even so God will bring with Him those who asleep in Jesus. 00:27:21.10\00:27:26.73 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, 00:27:26.76\00:27:29.15 that those who are alive and remain 00:27:29.18\00:27:30.77 until the coming of the Lord, 00:27:30.80\00:27:31.85 will by no means precede those who are asleep. 00:27:31.88\00:27:35.30 For the Lord Himself will descend 00:27:35.33\00:27:36.64 from heaven with a shout, with the voice 00:27:36.67\00:27:38.46 of the archangel and the trumpet of God, 00:27:38.49\00:27:40.44 and the dead in Christ will rise first. 00:27:40.47\00:27:43.36 Then we who are alive and remain 00:27:43.39\00:27:44.87 shall be caught up together with them in the clouds 00:27:44.90\00:27:47.01 to meet the Lord in the air, and thus, in another words, 00:27:47.04\00:27:49.83 from then on we shall always be with the Lord." 00:27:49.86\00:27:53.59 Not before that. That's right. 00:27:53.62\00:27:55.52 All both of those who sleep in Jesus 00:27:55.55\00:27:57.66 and those who are alive in Jesus, 00:27:57.69\00:28:00.22 will meet Him in the air and be with the Lord 00:28:00.25\00:28:02.66 from that point on, not before. That's right. 00:28:02.69\00:28:06.10 So there's nothing in the Bible that indicate this. 00:28:06.13\00:28:08.01 Now I know that you are thinking here, 00:28:08.04\00:28:11.07 especially some of you who have been raised in churches 00:28:11.10\00:28:13.78 that have taught that when you die 00:28:13.81\00:28:16.09 you immediately go to heaven but there are few verses 00:28:16.12\00:28:18.52 that are brought out that seem to, 00:28:18.55\00:28:20.55 they say suggest that in fact 00:28:20.58\00:28:23.01 they are in heaven. 00:28:23.04\00:28:24.20 What they actually do is they ignore 00:28:24.23\00:28:26.20 the multitude of verses that says 00:28:26.23\00:28:28.06 that they could not be in heaven. 00:28:28.09\00:28:30.63 And so in effect what they have done is 00:28:30.66\00:28:33.31 they made the Bible to contradict itself 00:28:33.34\00:28:37.34 by teaching that those who have died are in heaven, 00:28:37.37\00:28:40.82 they are actually causing the Word of God 00:28:40.85\00:28:42.85 to contradict itself. 00:28:42.88\00:28:44.62 Because of the clear statement elsewhere, 00:28:44.65\00:28:46.80 more numerous than those they suggest advocate 00:28:46.83\00:28:49.39 they go to heaven right away. 00:28:49.42\00:28:52.66 They ignore those and I believe do 00:28:52.69\00:28:55.26 a great disservice to this teaching. 00:28:55.29\00:28:56.91 And look what Satan has done, John. 00:28:56.94\00:28:58.38 Let's think of the practical aspect. 00:28:58.41\00:29:00.28 The end time grows, grows very, very close to us now. 00:29:00.31\00:29:05.43 And all these people are seeing this movies about, 00:29:05.46\00:29:08.57 you know, the afterlife and we are becoming 00:29:08.60\00:29:10.76 conditioned as a society to believe 00:29:10.79\00:29:13.00 if there's life after death 00:29:13.03\00:29:14.31 and spirits beyond that you can communicate with. 00:29:14.34\00:29:16.60 And all of a sudden Satan starts to ramp up, 00:29:16.63\00:29:19.76 here is the attack at the very end of time 00:29:19.79\00:29:22.14 and what he does is he starts appearing 00:29:22.17\00:29:25.44 not only to the secular mind and the secular hearts 00:29:25.47\00:29:27.88 and minimize, in fact remove atheism as a whole. 00:29:27.91\00:29:32.03 Right. But he appeals to who? 00:29:32.06\00:29:33.48 Christians who have believed that their loved ones 00:29:33.51\00:29:37.51 are in heaven already and have come back 00:29:37.54\00:29:40.10 to speak a message to them. 00:29:40.13\00:29:42.04 And they will follow that message 00:29:42.07\00:29:43.82 if they are open to that deception. 00:29:43.85\00:29:46.85 And the text that you were referring to, John, 00:29:46.88\00:29:48.68 I am glad you alluded to that 00:29:48.71\00:29:49.75 because there are certain passages in the Bible 00:29:49.78\00:29:51.78 that if you don't read the whole context of it, 00:29:51.81\00:29:54.40 the one that is a very, very familiar one, 00:29:54.43\00:29:56.38 I've heard preacher say that, they are absent from the body, 00:29:56.41\00:29:59.28 therefore they are present with the Lord. 00:29:59.31\00:30:01.53 If you read that passage, you read absolutely nothing 00:30:01.56\00:30:04.92 in that passage that even remotely suggest 00:30:04.95\00:30:08.53 or even mentions the word death. 00:30:08.56\00:30:12.29 And so you ask yourself, 00:30:12.32\00:30:14.28 what is Paul actually talking about? 00:30:14.31\00:30:17.43 One day we will be absent from this body. 00:30:17.46\00:30:20.31 Paul talked about how he groaned, 00:30:20.34\00:30:26.00 while in this life we have trials 00:30:26.03\00:30:27.92 and tribulations and difficulties and-- 00:30:27.95\00:30:32.33 but while we are at home in this body, 00:30:32.36\00:30:33.99 we are absent from the Lord. 00:30:34.02\00:30:35.80 And so he said, to be absent 00:30:35.83\00:30:37.42 from the body is to be present with the Lord. 00:30:37.45\00:30:39.52 And then he also talks about how that's going to happen? 00:30:39.55\00:30:42.28 How one day immortality will be swallowed up by life? 00:30:42.31\00:30:47.87 So what he means by that is that the same thing 00:30:47.90\00:30:49.54 he says in 1 Thessalonians 4 and he also reiterates 00:30:49.57\00:30:53.14 that In 1 Corinthians 15, 00:30:53.17\00:30:55.21 how this mortal will put on immortality. 00:30:55.24\00:30:58.11 It's not possible to be mortal 00:30:58.14\00:31:00.10 and in the presence of an immortal God. 00:31:00.13\00:31:02.37 God is a consuming fire, we will cease to exist. 00:31:02.40\00:31:05.29 So when you read-- 00:31:05.32\00:31:08.28 When you read 2 Corinthians 5:1-8, 00:31:08.31\00:31:15.51 it's talking about how our walk is by faith 00:31:15.54\00:31:17.99 and not by sight because we are looking forward 00:31:18.02\00:31:20.41 one day to be in the presence of the Lord 00:31:20.44\00:31:23.25 but we are not in the presence of Lord, 00:31:23.28\00:31:25.07 so it's a faith walk, not a sight walk. 00:31:25.10\00:31:27.74 That's where that we walk by faith 00:31:27.77\00:31:29.10 and not by sight comes in. 00:31:29.13\00:31:30.91 And so when you look at this whole earthy temple, 00:31:30.94\00:31:34.23 the house that we are in, 00:31:34.26\00:31:36.22 the building that we are in that we are hoping 00:31:36.25\00:31:38.33 that we will one day it is destroyed, 00:31:38.36\00:31:40.02 it is going to be destroyed 00:31:40.05\00:31:41.50 when this mortal puts on immortality. 00:31:41.53\00:31:45.05 The same Paul that talks about 00:31:45.08\00:31:46.87 ascending to meet the Lord in the air, 00:31:46.90\00:31:48.66 notice, to meet Him is the same one. 00:31:48.69\00:31:51.42 In fact, read verse 10 of 2 Corinthians 5. 00:31:51.45\00:31:54.05 It tells you when all this happen. 00:31:54.08\00:31:55.53 Exactly, "For we must all appear 00:31:55.56\00:31:57.57 before the judgment seat of Christ, 00:31:57.60\00:32:00.10 that each one may receive the things done 00:32:00.13\00:32:02.26 in the body according to what He has done, 00:32:02.29\00:32:04.58 whether good or bad." And so that's right. 00:32:04.61\00:32:08.06 That is the chapter there 00:32:08.09\00:32:09.43 where old things are passed away, 00:32:09.46\00:32:11.19 behold, all things are become new. 00:32:11.22\00:32:13.19 But he's simply talking about the difficulties in this life, 00:32:13.22\00:32:15.43 how there are many of you watching the program 00:32:15.46\00:32:17.57 that are having trials and tribulations and we, 00:32:17.60\00:32:20.22 I've said, "Man, can't wait till Jesus comes. 00:32:20.25\00:32:24.66 All these trials and difficulties will be over." 00:32:24.69\00:32:27.50 And that's why Paul says here, 00:32:27.53\00:32:29.20 we know that in our earthly house, this tent. 00:32:29.23\00:32:33.63 We know that if our earthly house, 00:32:33.66\00:32:35.26 this tent, is destroyed, we have a building from God, 00:32:35.29\00:32:38.70 a house, " verse 1, "not made with hands, 00:32:38.73\00:32:41.66 eternal in the heavens. 00:32:41.69\00:32:43.17 For in this-- that is in this tent we groan, 00:32:43.20\00:32:47.25 earnestly desiring to be closed with our habitation 00:32:47.28\00:32:50.75 which is from heaven. 00:32:50.78\00:32:52.38 If indeed, having been clothed, we shall not be found naked. 00:32:52.41\00:32:56.38 For we who are in this tent, 00:32:56.41\00:32:58.31 that is this body being burdened, 00:32:58.34\00:33:01.02 not because we want to be unclothed, 00:33:01.05\00:33:03.55 but rather clothed, 00:33:03.58\00:33:05.45 that mortality may be swallowed up by life." 00:33:05.48\00:33:09.50 And in your Bible you could see the reference there, 00:33:09.53\00:33:11.45 1 Corinthians 15:53, 00:33:11.48\00:33:14.16 that's when immortality is going to replace mortality. 00:33:14.19\00:33:17.08 Then he says, now verse 5, 00:33:17.11\00:33:20.17 "He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, 00:33:20.20\00:33:24.92 who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee. 00:33:24.95\00:33:28.73 Therefore we are always confident, 00:33:28.76\00:33:30.51 knowing that while we are at home in the body 00:33:30.54\00:33:34.24 we are absent from the Lord." 00:33:34.27\00:33:36.80 And then he says, 00:33:36.83\00:33:37.86 "We walk by faith and not by sight. 00:33:37.89\00:33:40.36 We are confident, yes, well pleased rather," 00:33:40.39\00:33:43.15 this what he would rather had to-- 00:33:43.18\00:33:45.00 "rather to be absent from the body 00:33:45.03\00:33:46.83 and to be present with the Lord." 00:33:46.86\00:33:48.52 What body? This mortal corrupt body. 00:33:48.55\00:33:51.72 He said, that's what I would rather have. 00:33:51.75\00:33:53.98 But right now in this tent we groan. 00:33:54.01\00:33:56.04 And so one day we are going to be unclothed 00:33:56.07\00:33:59.20 from this mortal body but we are going to be 00:33:59.23\00:34:00.99 clothed with an immortal body. 00:34:01.02\00:34:02.59 Do yourself a favor 00:34:02.62\00:34:03.65 and do a study in 1 Corinthians 15. 00:34:03.68\00:34:05.92 Here it shows the earthly body, the heavenly body 00:34:05.95\00:34:08.61 and it will show you exactly 00:34:08.64\00:34:09.67 when the transition is going to take place, 00:34:09.70\00:34:11.91 not at death but when the Lord comes. 00:34:11.94\00:34:13.78 That's right. 00:34:13.81\00:34:14.84 Anyway, I think we need to go to our topic-- 00:34:14.87\00:34:16.54 Yeah, we will do. 00:34:16.57\00:34:17.62 We have really taken some time 00:34:17.65\00:34:18.90 but thank you for your questions and comments. 00:34:18.93\00:34:22.32 And I know that we talk about things here 00:34:22.35\00:34:23.81 that sometimes jar thought in your mind. 00:34:23.84\00:34:26.52 If you have any question you like to send to us, 00:34:26.55\00:34:28.24 you can send those questions to the email address 00:34:28.27\00:34:30.98 that will be found on the screen. 00:34:31.01\00:34:32.56 That email address is housecalls@3abn.org. 00:34:32.59\00:34:35.96 That's housecalls@3abn.org. 00:34:35.99\00:34:39.06 And we surely do appreciate 00:34:39.09\00:34:40.42 everything you do here for 3ABN, 00:34:40.45\00:34:43.30 your prayers and your financial support. 00:34:43.33\00:34:46.70 Now John, take us into our topic today. 00:34:46.73\00:34:49.17 We are going to be talking about 00:34:49.20\00:34:50.26 something that continues to bless our hearts 00:34:50.29\00:34:53.56 as it relates to the plan of the God. 00:34:53.59\00:34:57.05 And what we are talking about today? 00:34:57.08\00:34:58.52 Well, we are talking about the sanctuary. 00:34:58.55\00:35:00.41 And just to provide us some clarity 00:35:00.44\00:35:02.11 as to what that is, just a brief picture here 00:35:02.14\00:35:05.36 if you read the book of Hebrews at all, 00:35:05.39\00:35:07.64 it's in the New Testament. 00:35:07.67\00:35:09.20 You will find the writer of Hebrews spends extensive time 00:35:09.23\00:35:12.74 from about Chapter 8 onward connecting 00:35:12.77\00:35:17.75 Christ's ministry as our high priest 00:35:17.78\00:35:22.31 with the ministry of the Law of Moses, 00:35:22.34\00:35:25.68 the ceremonial aspect to that of the sanctuary 00:35:25.71\00:35:29.15 that was on earth. 00:35:29.18\00:35:31.09 And what he does is he speaks in language 00:35:31.12\00:35:33.49 that helps us understand that there is this 00:35:33.52\00:35:37.92 connectivity between Old Testament process 00:35:37.95\00:35:42.38 and ceremonies and sacrifices and things 00:35:42.41\00:35:44.98 they did with what Jesus is doing today. 00:35:45.01\00:35:49.38 That's right. 00:35:49.41\00:35:50.53 And we can't miss that connection. 00:35:50.56\00:35:53.80 The issue today is that many Christians 00:35:53.83\00:35:56.32 have so removed the Old Testament 00:35:56.35\00:35:58.89 from their Christian experience 00:35:58.92\00:36:01.10 that they don't dive into the Old Testament to find out 00:36:01.13\00:36:04.14 what those things mean 00:36:04.17\00:36:05.84 in regard to Christ ministry today. 00:36:05.87\00:36:08.52 So what we are going to do is 00:36:08.55\00:36:09.58 we are going to talk about the sanctuary 00:36:09.61\00:36:12.44 and we are really talking about two sanctuaries, 00:36:12.47\00:36:15.14 the primary one which exists in heaven 00:36:15.17\00:36:17.97 and a secondary one which was the pattern, 00:36:18.00\00:36:20.43 the copy of that heavenly sanctuary 00:36:20.46\00:36:22.70 that existed on the earth during the time of Israel. 00:36:22.73\00:36:25.96 And so we are going to find some things, 00:36:25.99\00:36:28.20 I believe in this sanctuary on earth 00:36:28.23\00:36:30.45 that we can learn about the things 00:36:30.48\00:36:31.88 that are going on in heaven right now 00:36:31.91\00:36:33.39 with Jesus as our high priest. 00:36:33.42\00:36:35.09 That's right. And the sanctuary is, 00:36:35.12\00:36:37.46 I think one of the first things 00:36:37.49\00:36:38.68 we have to establish because people will say, 00:36:38.71\00:36:41.24 "Well, why was there any need for an earthly sanctuary?" 00:36:41.27\00:36:45.00 And I think you've mentioned, 00:36:45.03\00:36:46.06 you made some comparisons here 00:36:46.09\00:36:48.02 but I think it will be good for us 00:36:48.05\00:36:49.37 just to go to Exodus 25. 00:36:49.40\00:36:51.72 And, John, if you can read verse 8 and 9, 00:36:51.75\00:36:54.61 you will see that there was a purpose 00:36:54.64\00:36:56.39 behind the sanctuary that supports the reason 00:36:56.42\00:37:02.16 why God gave Moses all the information 00:37:02.19\00:37:05.37 and all the knowledge that was needed 00:37:05.40\00:37:07.56 in order to build this. 00:37:07.59\00:37:08.97 He says in Exodus 25:8-9 and these talks about 00:37:09.00\00:37:12.45 a great desire the Lord has. 00:37:12.48\00:37:14.19 Actually in this passage to provide 00:37:14.22\00:37:15.96 some context here, John. 00:37:15.99\00:37:18.10 This is when Moses went up on the mountain 00:37:18.13\00:37:20.44 and was there for 40 days. 00:37:20.47\00:37:23.22 And he first receives the Ten Commandments, okay. 00:37:23.25\00:37:25.89 That's right. 00:37:25.92\00:37:26.96 On the Tablets of Stone and then during these 40 days, 00:37:26.99\00:37:31.13 God is speaking to him about something very special. 00:37:31.16\00:37:34.63 And so in this context we read these words 00:37:34.66\00:37:37.04 and I am reading from, as you said in Exodus 25:8-9, 00:37:37.07\00:37:41.27 "And let them make me," that is them, His people, 00:37:41.30\00:37:44.06 "make me a sanctuary that I may dwell among them. 00:37:44.09\00:37:47.63 According to all that I show you, 00:37:47.66\00:37:49.90 that is the pattern of the tabernacle, 00:37:49.93\00:37:51.86 and the pattern of all its furnishings, 00:37:51.89\00:37:54.05 just so you shall make it." Powerful. 00:37:54.08\00:37:57.77 He is asking Moses to have them make Him a sanctuary 00:37:57.80\00:38:01.19 so that He might dwell with them 00:38:01.22\00:38:02.72 and he has a specific pattern of all the sanctuary 00:38:02.75\00:38:06.39 and its furnishings to give to Moses during these 40 days 00:38:06.42\00:38:09.50 while he's up there with Him. 00:38:09.53\00:38:10.56 Okay. Which shows us that God is specific 00:38:10.59\00:38:13.70 because He has a pattern. 00:38:13.73\00:38:16.40 You see, we all know what a pattern is, 00:38:16.43\00:38:19.29 it's a blueprint in essence to-- 00:38:19.32\00:38:22.51 So He didn't say to Moses, "Hey, make me a sanctuary, 00:38:22.54\00:38:26.90 you figure it out" but he says, 00:38:26.93\00:38:28.59 "I am going to give you the pattern 00:38:28.62\00:38:30.22 and according to what I've shown you in the mount." 00:38:30.25\00:38:33.46 And that's when Moses, as you said was in the mountain 00:38:33.49\00:38:37.90 for 40 days and 40 nights. So the sanctuary 00:38:37.93\00:38:40.46 that He gives him-it's the other thing I like to make is. 00:38:40.49\00:38:44.77 He said, "Let them make it that I may dwell among them." 00:38:44.80\00:38:48.51 Now I want to just give a little bit of support 00:38:48.54\00:38:52.28 to the dwelling part. 00:38:52.31\00:38:54.43 You see the temple or the sanctuary, 00:38:54.46\00:38:56.62 the earthly sanctuary that they built. 00:38:56.65\00:38:59.70 The glory of God was knows as the Shekinah Glory. 00:38:59.73\00:39:05.41 And the people who knew that His presence, 00:39:05.44\00:39:08.30 the God's presence had descended in the most holy place 00:39:08.33\00:39:13.39 of the tabernacle because they saw the glory of the God, 00:39:13.42\00:39:16.70 they saw the light of God there. 00:39:16.73\00:39:18.32 But they could not go in to the most holy place 00:39:18.35\00:39:22.38 because the glory of God was so great. 00:39:22.41\00:39:24.37 It will consume any mortal. 00:39:24.40\00:39:27.64 So this desire for God to dwell among His people. 00:39:27.67\00:39:30.53 He says, I could do that but there needs to be a context 00:39:30.56\00:39:33.20 where although they know I am there, 00:39:33.23\00:39:35.10 there need to be a barrier between immortality that is God 00:39:35.13\00:39:39.95 and mortality which is in fact a man. 00:39:39.98\00:39:43.11 Had to be-- had to be a barrier 00:39:43.14\00:39:44.21 because they would cease to exist. 00:39:44.24\00:39:46.42 And so God asked them to make the sanctuary 00:39:46.45\00:39:48.75 and He says after a pattern. 00:39:48.78\00:39:50.85 And I want to just jump over really quick to Hebrews 8, 00:39:50.88\00:39:53.40 just to kind of wrap together this pattern 00:39:53.43\00:39:55.94 because this is what we were saying where we started. 00:39:55.97\00:39:57.78 The writer of Hebrews is picking up 00:39:57.81\00:40:00.51 a very important aspect of the Old Testament 00:40:00.54\00:40:03.72 that applies to Jesus. 00:40:03.75\00:40:05.61 And he says here in 8:1, 00:40:05.64\00:40:07.31 "Now this is the main point of the things we are saying." 00:40:07.34\00:40:10.57 Now, what if someone says that to you, John? 00:40:10.60\00:40:12.26 It's the main point. 00:40:12.29\00:40:13.67 It means, this isn't important point. 00:40:13.70\00:40:15.41 This is the main thrust of everything I've got to tell you. 00:40:15.44\00:40:18.51 That's right. And he goes on. 00:40:18.54\00:40:19.57 "We have such a High Priest capitalize there, 00:40:19.60\00:40:22.71 who is seeded at the right hand of the throne 00:40:22.74\00:40:25.30 of the Majesty in the heavens. 00:40:25.33\00:40:27.49 A minister of the sanctuary--" 00:40:27.52\00:40:29.38 There is the word again. 00:40:29.41\00:40:30.72 "And of the true tabernacle--tabernacle, 00:40:30.75\00:40:33.26 which the Lord erected, and not man. 00:40:33.29\00:40:37.58 That is Jesus is seated at the right hand of God. 00:40:37.61\00:40:41.92 He is the minister of the sanctuary. 00:40:41.95\00:40:44.82 But this sanctuary is not one that man has erected, 00:40:44.85\00:40:47.66 but one that God has erected." That's right. 00:40:47.69\00:40:50.61 Powerful. "For every High Priest--" 00:40:50.64\00:40:53.25 Which Jesus is the High Priest of all high priests. 00:40:53.28\00:40:56.53 "Is appointed to offerable gifts and sacrifices, 00:40:56.56\00:40:59.16 therefore it is necessary that this one--" Capital one Jesus. 00:40:59.19\00:41:03.86 "Also have something to offer." 00:41:03.89\00:41:06.36 Jesus, after the crucifixion 00:41:06.39\00:41:08.44 has something still to offer. That's right. 00:41:08.47\00:41:12.06 "For if he were on earth, he would not be a priest, 00:41:12.09\00:41:15.07 since there are priests who offer gifts 00:41:15.10\00:41:16.92 according to the law, who serve a copy 00:41:16.95\00:41:19.42 and the shadow of the heavenly things." 00:41:19.45\00:41:22.47 So if the tabernacle on the sanctuary 00:41:22.50\00:41:24.86 and all the things happening, 00:41:24.89\00:41:25.92 there is a copy and shadow of the heavenly things 00:41:25.95\00:41:28.01 which is the real sanctuary, John. 00:41:28.04\00:41:30.29 The one that is in heaven. 00:41:30.32\00:41:31.48 The one in heaven? That's right. 00:41:31.51\00:41:33.75 "As Moses was divinely instructed 00:41:33.78\00:41:35.94 when he was about to make the tabernacle. 00:41:35.97\00:41:38.64 For He said, 'See that you make all things 00:41:38.67\00:41:40.74 according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.'" 00:41:40.77\00:41:45.71 And so the issue here is God is meeting with Moses 00:41:45.74\00:41:48.83 on the mountain to give him clear instructions 00:41:48.86\00:41:50.50 and the pattern He shows Moses is the view 00:41:50.53\00:41:53.69 into the heavenly realm of the real tabernacle, 00:41:53.72\00:41:56.84 the real sanctuary that lives there. 00:41:56.87\00:41:58.78 And there's so many object lessons in the sanctuary, 00:41:58.81\00:42:05.16 the building of it, the purpose of it. 00:42:05.19\00:42:07.62 First of all, we mentioned that the ministry of the sanctuary 00:42:07.65\00:42:12.34 is based on each of the components 00:42:12.37\00:42:14.63 of the articles of furniture 00:42:14.66\00:42:15.89 as John was just talking about here. 00:42:15.92\00:42:17.50 And we'll get to talking about those and describing those, 00:42:17.53\00:42:19.90 but I want you to see a particular text. 00:42:19.93\00:42:21.98 I'm gonna show you two of them actually. 00:42:22.01\00:42:23.42 John, go to Psalms 77 and after I read my verse, 00:42:23.45\00:42:29.98 I want to read-- I'm gonna have you read yours. 00:42:30.01\00:42:32.22 I'm gonna read first-- I'm gonna read John 14:6. 00:42:32.25\00:42:37.42 John 14:6 and the Bible said, 00:42:37.45\00:42:40.77 "Jesus said to him, I am the way, 00:42:40.80\00:42:43.97 the truth, and the life, 00:42:44.00\00:42:46.25 no one comes to the Father, except through me." 00:42:46.28\00:42:50.28 That's sanctuary language. 00:42:50.31\00:42:53.35 Because in the sanctuary the only one that had the right 00:42:53.38\00:42:57.29 to be in the Most Holy Place was the high priest. 00:42:57.32\00:43:01.61 And that's where the Father descended the Shekinah Glory. 00:43:01.64\00:43:06.19 The only one that had the right to be 00:43:06.22\00:43:07.82 in the work of the sanctuary was the high priest. 00:43:07.85\00:43:12.02 He was the minister in that tabernacle. 00:43:12.05\00:43:14.90 And then later on, you'll find in Hebrews. 00:43:14.93\00:43:16.59 Jesus has become the minister of the true tabernacle. 00:43:16.62\00:43:19.73 So I want you to-- we're gonna make-- 00:43:19.76\00:43:21.35 we're gonna make some emphasis 00:43:21.38\00:43:22.48 or we're gonna emphasize the phrase, the way. 00:43:22.51\00:43:25.78 Now, Psalms 77:13, John. 00:43:25.81\00:43:29.13 Remember this fact to your head. 00:43:29.16\00:43:30.84 "I am the way." That's what Jesus said. 00:43:30.87\00:43:32.60 Now read verse 13. 00:43:32.63\00:43:34.54 "Your way, O God, is in the sanctuary, 00:43:34.57\00:43:38.39 who is so great a God as our God?" 00:43:38.42\00:43:41.52 So it says, I am the way and then David the Psalmist says, 00:43:41.55\00:43:45.02 "Your way is in the sanctuary." 00:43:45.05\00:43:47.21 Who is the one ministering in the sanctuary? 00:43:47.24\00:43:49.50 Christ. That's right. 00:43:49.53\00:43:50.96 All the work carried on was through the man 00:43:50.99\00:43:55.33 that represented the High Priest. 00:43:55.36\00:43:57.49 And Jesus has become our High Priest 00:43:57.52\00:43:59.57 of the true tabernacle, 00:43:59.60\00:44:01.24 a building not made with man's hands. 00:44:01.27\00:44:04.59 You see, so when you begin to look at some of these phrases 00:44:04.62\00:44:07.25 in the Old Testament, it would jump out at you 00:44:07.28\00:44:09.82 very, very carefully when you understand the sanctuary 00:44:09.85\00:44:13.65 and its import and its purpose, then all of a sudden 00:44:13.68\00:44:17.92 the work of Christ just starts to blossom, 00:44:17.95\00:44:21.56 as a flower that's unfolding right before our eyes. 00:44:21.59\00:44:24.97 So now we are looking at the fact that the Lord's way 00:44:25.00\00:44:29.92 is in the sanctuary, but Hebrews 8:1, 2. 00:44:29.95\00:44:34.82 Did you just read that? 00:44:34.85\00:44:35.88 Yes, that's what I just read. 00:44:35.91\00:44:36.94 Okay. And what that did is that begins to show us 00:44:36.97\00:44:39.85 the furniture and the purpose of each of the pieces 00:44:39.88\00:44:43.24 of the furniture, but -- 00:44:43.27\00:44:45.18 Before we jump into that, maybe we're gonna talk 00:44:45.21\00:44:46.87 about how the sanctuary was laid out here. Okay. 00:44:46.90\00:44:50.16 Because we've mentioned the high priest several times 00:44:50.19\00:44:52.61 and the high priest was the only one 00:44:52.64\00:44:54.12 that can go into the Most Holy Place. That's right. 00:44:54.15\00:44:57.12 The place where God's Shekinah Glory resided 00:44:57.15\00:45:00.59 in the middle of the cherubim 00:45:00.62\00:45:02.49 that was over the Ark of the Covenant. 00:45:02.52\00:45:05.77 In that Ark of the Covenant 00:45:05.80\00:45:06.85 and we'll talk about this in a bit 00:45:06.88\00:45:08.12 is the Law of God. That's right. 00:45:08.15\00:45:10.12 Now the high priest only was allowed to go there. 00:45:10.15\00:45:12.40 Now it's interesting Jesus says, 00:45:12.43\00:45:13.97 "I came to save my people from their sins." That's right. 00:45:14.00\00:45:18.54 Jesus is the only one that can deal with the sin issue 00:45:18.57\00:45:23.12 because He is the sacrifice. 00:45:23.15\00:45:25.43 But also He is our high priest 00:45:25.46\00:45:27.27 in that when He enters Most Holy Place 00:45:27.30\00:45:31.17 that is the time period where all the sins of Israel 00:45:31.20\00:45:34.74 combined are dealt with. That's right. 00:45:34.77\00:45:37.27 So in that respect, 00:45:37.30\00:45:38.58 Jesus isn't just our sacrifice on the cross, 00:45:38.61\00:45:41.02 He is the only one that can take that sacrifice 00:45:41.05\00:45:43.76 and eliminate, eradicate the sins of His people. 00:45:43.79\00:45:49.14 So it brings new meaning understanding the sanctuary 00:45:49.17\00:45:52.33 and then reading the Old Testament 00:45:52.36\00:45:53.69 what the high priest did, it brings new meaning 00:45:53.72\00:45:55.99 to what Jesus is doing still today. 00:45:56.02\00:45:58.71 That's right. Powerful, powerful. 00:45:58.74\00:46:00.49 Anyway, so let's talk about the various 00:46:00.52\00:46:02.17 the layout of the sanctuary. Okay. 00:46:02.20\00:46:04.27 You have the tabernacle itself which is divided into two parts. 00:46:04.30\00:46:08.89 The first department is the Holy Place. 00:46:08.92\00:46:12.13 The second part is the Most Holy Place or the holiest of all. 00:46:12.16\00:46:16.87 In the first department, you have three pieces of furniture. 00:46:16.90\00:46:21.32 You have the candlestick. 00:46:21.35\00:46:23.90 You have the table of showbread 00:46:23.93\00:46:25.94 and then you have the altar of incense. Right. 00:46:25.97\00:46:29.52 In the Most Holy Place, you have the Ark of the Covenant 00:46:29.55\00:46:31.89 where the Ten Commandments are. 00:46:31.92\00:46:33.48 Now before you get there 00:46:33.51\00:46:35.08 though you have the outer courtyard. That's right. 00:46:35.11\00:46:37.64 Tell us what's in the outer courtyard? 00:46:37.67\00:46:39.36 Well, you have there the laver. 00:46:39.39\00:46:41.66 You have the altar of burnt offerings. 00:46:41.69\00:46:44.78 And the laver, it is so amazing 00:46:44.81\00:46:47.30 how each of these pieces-- Matter of fact, 00:46:47.33\00:46:49.42 go with us to Exodus 30. 00:46:49.45\00:46:54.11 We want to see each of these pieces of furniture. 00:46:54.14\00:46:56.79 Exodus 30, and as John ask me to-- 00:46:56.82\00:46:59.51 and we're gonna talk about this in another upcoming program 00:46:59.54\00:47:01.50 because there's too much to cover in just one program, 00:47:01.53\00:47:04.28 but the laver was filled with water 00:47:04.31\00:47:07.38 and the altar of burnt offerings was 00:47:07.41\00:47:09.06 where the sacrifice was laid 00:47:09.09\00:47:12.13 and burnt on the altar 00:47:12.16\00:47:16.71 after the blood of the sacrifice was shed. 00:47:16.74\00:47:21.09 So all these are lessons prefiguring the work of Christ. 00:47:21.12\00:47:26.17 Now, the water that was in the laver. 00:47:26.20\00:47:31.34 Let's go to Exodus 30, 00:47:31.37\00:47:34.19 and we're going to look together at verse 17. Are you there? 00:47:34.22\00:47:40.56 Exodus 30 and we're gonna look together 00:47:42.23\00:47:46.04 at verse 17. Okay. 00:47:46.07\00:47:50.69 And it says, "Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 00:47:50.72\00:47:54.50 'You shall also make a laver of bronze, 00:47:54.53\00:47:58.61 with its base also of bronze, for washing. 00:47:58.64\00:48:03.42 You shall put it 00:48:03.45\00:48:04.48 between the tabernacle of meeting and the altar. 00:48:04.51\00:48:08.51 And you shall put water in it, 00:48:08.54\00:48:11.07 as for Aaron and his sons shall wash their hands 00:48:11.10\00:48:15.29 and their feet in water from it. 00:48:15.32\00:48:18.89 When they go into the tabernacle of meeting, 00:48:18.92\00:48:21.45 or when they come near the altar to minister, 00:48:21.48\00:48:26.53 to burn an offering made by fire to the Lord, 00:48:26.56\00:48:29.42 they shall wash with water, lest they die. 00:48:29.45\00:48:34.73 So they shall wash their hands and their feet, lest they die. 00:48:34.76\00:48:40.59 And it shall be a statute forever to me-- 00:48:40.62\00:48:43.80 to him and his descendants throughout their generations.'" 00:48:43.83\00:48:48.10 And so you find right away this laver had water in it. 00:48:48.13\00:48:51.67 Now, when Jesus met the woman at the well, 00:48:51.70\00:48:58.88 and she looked at Christ and she says, 00:48:58.91\00:49:01.57 'I see you're at the well, but you don't have anything 00:49:01.60\00:49:04.93 from which to draw water. 00:49:04.96\00:49:07.62 And he said to her woman, 00:49:07.65\00:49:09.87 if you knew who he was speaking to, 00:49:09.90\00:49:13.63 you wouldn't say, I have nothing to draw water, 00:49:13.66\00:49:17.99 but you'll say, give me some of that water 00:49:18.02\00:49:21.63 that I may not thirst again. 00:49:21.66\00:49:23.51 And then Jesus revealed Himself to her. 00:49:23.54\00:49:25.86 What she didn't know? 00:49:25.89\00:49:26.92 Well, she was about the reason why she left her water pot 00:49:26.95\00:49:30.24 is because she met the water of life. 00:49:30.27\00:49:33.23 So here the water of life and then we also find 00:49:33.26\00:49:36.70 the terminology that Peter uses. 00:49:36.73\00:49:38.89 "We are cleansed by the washing of the word." 00:49:38.92\00:49:41.86 Who is the word? Christ is the word. 00:49:41.89\00:49:44.47 So this terminology that's used here in the sanctuary, 00:49:44.50\00:49:47.32 the laver represented the washing 00:49:47.35\00:49:50.46 when the water represents Jesus, the water of life, 00:49:50.49\00:49:53.73 the one through whom we are cleansed 00:49:53.76\00:49:55.70 and cleansed from the sin 00:49:55.73\00:49:58.11 that's why the priest said to wash themselves. 00:49:58.14\00:50:01.09 Those of us who are not washed, 00:50:01.12\00:50:02.66 another symbol of the laver is baptism. 00:50:02.69\00:50:05.08 Those of us who are not washed from our sins will die. 00:50:05.11\00:50:09.25 That's why He said there, will die. 00:50:09.28\00:50:11.51 Baptism, washing away person's sin. 00:50:11.54\00:50:15.06 John, any comments? 00:50:15.09\00:50:17.11 Yeah, I mean, one of the big things that 00:50:17.14\00:50:20.57 that we need to remember with all these pieces of furniture 00:50:20.60\00:50:23.11 and the things, there's so much symbolism. 00:50:23.14\00:50:25.69 It's just replete with symbolism. 00:50:25.72\00:50:28.14 And in fact, after right around Exodus 25 00:50:28.17\00:50:30.91 which we began with, right on through the next 40 days, 00:50:30.94\00:50:36.29 keep in mind 40 days Moses is on the mountain with God. 00:50:36.32\00:50:39.65 God is revealing all the details of the sanctuary, 00:50:39.68\00:50:42.83 even the priest and his clothes, 00:50:42.86\00:50:45.56 we were in the outer courtyard talking about what's there 00:50:45.59\00:50:48.20 and we mentioned the laver is there, 00:50:48.23\00:50:49.53 but also the altar of burnt offerings, 00:50:49.56\00:50:52.55 that is there as well. 00:50:52.58\00:50:54.33 And here's the amazing part talking about symbolism. 00:50:54.36\00:50:59.42 As you lay this out, you begin by coming in 00:50:59.45\00:51:02.66 if someone had committed the sin, 00:51:02.69\00:51:05.69 they would bring their offering to the courtyard first 00:51:05.72\00:51:09.99 because they would come through that outer gate, 00:51:10.02\00:51:12.53 into the courtyard and they would first see a priest 00:51:12.56\00:51:15.04 who met them there and then you'd have the burnt offering 00:51:15.07\00:51:19.21 that was there right next to you, 00:51:19.24\00:51:20.99 which you were bringing that offerings, 00:51:21.02\00:51:22.69 say it was a lamb, you brought the offering to be sacrificed, 00:51:22.72\00:51:26.25 that lamb would have its blood shed 00:51:26.28\00:51:28.42 because they would cut his throat, 00:51:28.45\00:51:30.03 the blood will be then taken by the priest 00:51:30.06\00:51:32.56 and applied eventually in the tabernacle of meeting. 00:51:32.59\00:51:36.94 But the offering itself, the lamb was then put 00:51:36.97\00:51:39.30 on the altar of burnt offering. 00:51:39.33\00:51:41.39 Who would that represent possibly? Christ. 00:51:41.42\00:51:45.56 Jesus? Okay, where is the verse? 00:51:45.59\00:51:48.39 Remember, John, when he proclaim, 00:51:48.42\00:51:49.72 when Jesus was coming down to be baptized? John 1:29. 00:51:49.75\00:51:53.94 Behold the Lamb of God, John says, 00:51:53.97\00:51:56.95 who takes away the sin of the world. That's right. 00:51:56.98\00:52:00.30 So even John, the baptized, the baptizer says, 00:52:00.33\00:52:05.99 this man Jesus is the one that is prefigured 00:52:06.02\00:52:09.91 by the lamb that was burnt 00:52:09.94\00:52:11.26 on the altar of burnt offering in the sanctuary system. 00:52:11.29\00:52:16.74 So the offering and the laver are together out there 00:52:16.77\00:52:20.62 in the courtyard and they are for specific purposes 00:52:20.65\00:52:23.16 because the priest must also wash to be clean themselves. 00:52:23.19\00:52:27.59 And who alone could wash them? 00:52:27.62\00:52:29.71 Jesus, He is the water of life as well. 00:52:29.74\00:52:32.62 So these things are all-- 00:52:32.65\00:52:33.68 there are all kinds of symbolism there. 00:52:33.71\00:52:35.19 You know, what's wonderful 00:52:35.22\00:52:36.25 about when we talk about the high priest. 00:52:36.28\00:52:38.58 Jesus has become a High Priest of a more perfect tabernacle. 00:52:38.61\00:52:44.15 When you find this language, go to Hebrews. 00:52:44.18\00:52:47.38 I want to just go there very quickly. 00:52:47.41\00:52:48.79 I was gonna read one before I went to Hebrews. 00:52:48.82\00:52:50.68 Actually in Titus Chapter 3 and I was going to read verse 5. 00:52:50.71\00:52:57.20 Once again, showing another function of the laver 00:52:57.23\00:53:00.29 that is the water there. 00:53:00.32\00:53:01.71 It says, or verse 4, "But when the kindness 00:53:01.74\00:53:04.97 and the love of God our Savior. 00:53:05.00\00:53:07.42 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior 00:53:07.45\00:53:11.46 toward man appeared, not by works of righteousness 00:53:11.49\00:53:15.19 which we have done, but according to His mercy, 00:53:15.22\00:53:19.33 He saved us, how, through the washing of regeneration 00:53:19.36\00:53:24.52 and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 00:53:24.55\00:53:27.98 whom He poured out on us abundantly 00:53:28.01\00:53:32.18 through Jesus Christ our Savior." 00:53:32.21\00:53:35.02 So once again, the washing. How did he do that? 00:53:35.05\00:53:39.15 Through Christ to is in fact the water. 00:53:39.18\00:53:42.14 And He also did that through the work of the Holy Spirit. 00:53:42.17\00:53:45.51 But now I said go to the Book of Hebrews. Yeah. 00:53:45.54\00:53:49.30 Go to Book of Hebrews. 00:53:49.33\00:53:50.70 Hebrews is kind of like a second-- 00:53:50.73\00:53:54.14 it's a compilation to me of the writings of Pentateuch, 00:53:54.17\00:53:58.82 the first five books of Moses. 00:53:58.85\00:54:01.08 Now, let's look at the-- Oh, man, I tell you. 00:54:01.11\00:54:07.00 Well, one of the points before you read that 00:54:07.03\00:54:08.53 as you're gathering your thoughts, 00:54:08.56\00:54:10.27 one of the points I would make here 00:54:10.30\00:54:11.40 as we get into Book of Hebrews 00:54:11.43\00:54:13.11 is notice from where we read before. 00:54:13.14\00:54:15.47 Hebrews 8:1-5 talking about the real sanctuary in heaven 00:54:15.50\00:54:21.22 and the copy on earth. That's right. 00:54:21.25\00:54:23.36 Right from there, the language and the discussion 00:54:23.39\00:54:26.74 that the author moves on into 00:54:26.77\00:54:29.49 is the New Covenant. That's right. 00:54:29.52\00:54:31.92 The New Covenant is all about Jesus, 00:54:31.95\00:54:34.78 our High Priest in the heavenly sanctuary. Right. 00:54:34.81\00:54:37.65 The Old Covenant is about 00:54:37.68\00:54:38.99 the old system of the high priest 00:54:39.02\00:54:40.63 who were symbols of a future High Priest Jesus. 00:54:40.66\00:54:44.48 But were a system based on the blood of bulls and goats, 00:54:44.51\00:54:49.72 not the blood of Christ. That's right. 00:54:49.75\00:54:51.25 So this is also a difference between 00:54:51.28\00:54:53.53 Old and New Covenant language. 00:54:53.56\00:54:56.30 So when you say, I'm a New Covenant Christian, 00:54:56.33\00:54:58.11 you cannot divorce the fact that Jesus is the High Priest 00:54:58.14\00:55:02.17 in the heavenly sanctuary. 00:55:02.20\00:55:03.96 You can't say that the sanctuary is not important 00:55:03.99\00:55:07.18 to your walk with Jesus. 00:55:07.21\00:55:09.74 And so that should drive you as a New Covenant Christian 00:55:09.77\00:55:13.62 to the Old Testament to learn what the High Priest 00:55:13.65\00:55:16.83 did under the old system 00:55:16.86\00:55:18.10 because it points to Jesus. No one else. 00:55:18.13\00:55:21.29 So this is why we have an issue when someone teaches that 00:55:21.32\00:55:24.54 the Old Covenant or the Old Testament doesn't matter. 00:55:24.57\00:55:27.62 It gives us so many details as to what Jesus 00:55:27.65\00:55:30.10 is doing today. Why hasn't He come back? 00:55:30.13\00:55:32.59 what is He doing up there? 00:55:32.62\00:55:34.40 We're providing you with some answers here today. 00:55:34.43\00:55:36.56 That's right, I'm glad you point it out 00:55:36.59\00:55:38.67 because the shadow all the articles of furniture 00:55:38.70\00:55:42.02 were therefore the ceremonial services. 00:55:42.05\00:55:46.25 But what I want you to see in Hebrews 9. There we go. 00:55:46.28\00:55:52.14 Hebrews 9 and it goes with the tabernacle 00:55:52.17\00:55:54.68 again from verse 1 down to verse 8, 00:55:54.71\00:55:57.43 but then in verse 9, listen what it says. 00:55:57.46\00:56:00.18 "It was symbolic for the present time 00:56:00.21\00:56:03.66 in which both gifts and sacrifices are offered 00:56:03.69\00:56:07.11 which cannot make him who performed 00:56:07.14\00:56:08.97 the service perfect in regard to conscience, 00:56:09.00\00:56:12.39 concerning only with foods and drinks, various washings, 00:56:12.42\00:56:18.28 and fleshly ordinances imposed until the time of reformation." 00:56:18.31\00:56:23.02 I want to make a very point here, 00:56:23.05\00:56:24.75 very important point here, drinks. 00:56:24.78\00:56:27.37 These were ceremonies. 00:56:27.40\00:56:28.88 These were feasts that were occurring also in proportion 00:56:28.91\00:56:32.45 to the ceremonial services. 00:56:32.48\00:56:34.63 But they were imposed for a certain period of time 00:56:34.66\00:56:37.43 until the reformation. 00:56:37.46\00:56:38.74 And verse 11, "But Christ came as High Priest 00:56:38.77\00:56:41.40 of the good things to come, 00:56:41.43\00:56:43.08 with the greater and more perfect tabernacle 00:56:43.11\00:56:46.13 not made with hands, that is, not of this creation. 00:56:46.16\00:56:50.33 Amen, you know, one of the things 00:56:50.36\00:56:51.67 that jumps out at me to here is that 00:56:51.70\00:56:54.17 these foods and drinks and washings and stuff, 00:56:54.20\00:56:56.78 the ordinances-- That's right. 00:56:56.81\00:56:58.70 Are what were eliminated at the cross. That's right. 00:56:58.73\00:57:01.21 And so when Paul uses that language in Colossians, 00:57:01.24\00:57:03.30 this is what he's talking about. 00:57:03.33\00:57:04.42 The old system giving way to the new system under Christ. 00:57:04.45\00:57:09.39 And I praise God that we have a High Priest 00:57:09.42\00:57:12.05 still today in the heavenly sanctuary. 00:57:12.08\00:57:14.46 And that's why we're gonna continue our march 00:57:14.49\00:57:16.28 through the Book of Hebrews because Hebrews pulls together 00:57:16.31\00:57:18.99 the Old Testament symbolism that is covered 00:57:19.02\00:57:20.93 in about five books, but here's the point, my friends. 00:57:20.96\00:57:23.66 The Lord has made a house call on the lives of Israel, 00:57:23.69\00:57:26.87 He is gonna make a house call on your life, 00:57:26.90\00:57:28.99 and if you respond to that call, 00:57:29.02\00:57:30.74 you will have a great walk with Christ. 00:57:30.77\00:57:32.17 So begin your walk with Him today. 00:57:32.20\00:57:34.68