Hello, friends, grab your
Bible and a friend and sit back
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as we explore
God's Word together
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on this edition
of "House Calls."
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Hello, friends,
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welcome to another
edition of "House Calls."
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You know, if you believe
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that there's another
program on television
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that approaches the
Bible the way that we do.
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Well, you won't find it
today because this is it.
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My name is John and
this is John to my right
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and we are here
today to talk to you about
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what the Word of God says.
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So thank you for
tuning into House Calls
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and, John, thank
you for being here.
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It's great to be here.
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Do you know we just talked
about this, nine years almost?
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Isn't that amazing?
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Going on nine years
now for this program.
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We have lost count as to
how many programs we have done,
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but every one of them
that we've done together
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has been a
blessing and a pleasure.
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It's been a blessing, yeah.
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And we talked about
this a number of years ago,
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when we sat down
together there in my living room
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in Fairfield, California,
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we just said, well,
wouldn't it be nice one day
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if we could just kind of share
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what God has given
to us with the world.
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And then one day I
think about the fourth year
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after we've been doing this.
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One day it hit us that we were
actually sitting down together
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and God gave us the
desires of our heart.
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So thank you for
tuning in to enjoy
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what God is doing for us,
to us, as well as through us.
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So get your
Bibles, get your pens,
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invite your
family and your friends
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for the next almost hour
as we cover your questions
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as well as the topic
that we'll be covering today.
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But before we do anything
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we always like to
begin with prayer.
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So, John, would you
pray for us? Let's pray.
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Our Father in heaven,
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we ask for Your presence
to be with us here today.
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Lord, we open our hearts to You,
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we ask that you would
fill us with Your Sprit
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and for those who are watching
or listening to this program
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we invite You into their lives
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as well as they
open themselves up
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to the Word of truth
here today in Jesus name.
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Amen. Amen.
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And as you know some of you
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are still into the sending
your mail by mail, by letter.
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That's, okay,
nothing wrong with that.
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But there are those of you that
want to send things by email.
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And if you have any
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That's housecalls@3abn.org
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and we surely would
try our best to respond
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to those always with the Bible.
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But, John, let me
go ahead and give you
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a first shot at it
today which I normally do
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or it's because
he is the anchor man.
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What do we have?
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Let's see here it's
a question from Laura
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and she's asking--now she
shares this question here,
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"I saw on National TV,
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Ariel Sharon talking
with General Tommy Franks
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and Franks said
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'How are we going to get funding
to fight the war, Sharon?
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Don't worry, I'll tell the
American Congress what to do?
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We are fighting these wars--
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and this is back
to Laura's commentary.
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"We are fighting these wars
for Israel under false pretense.
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So how did we as a Christian
nation get fooled into this?
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Why is Congress and the common
person falling for these wars?
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Simply because most
of the Christian world
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believes that the Jews
are God's chosen people,
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who taught them that?"
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Anyway, and she goes on to
talk about how a few things
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she's not finding a connection
there in the Word of God
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for Israel today
being God's chosen people.
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And so, John, I know that
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you and I have talked
about this issue before,
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but it would be
good to dialogue briefly.
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Because when you
accept the notion
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that God's chosen people
are still the nation of Israel.
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And we're talking about not
only ethnically, culturally.
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Nationally. Nationally.
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As a nation, when we say that
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we have to adopt other
things into our theology. Right.
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That don't match
with the Word of God.
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And some of those things
are a dual covenant theology
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where, you know,
I've seen many espouse
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in trying to explain this away.
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Well, the covenant
with Israel is one of law
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and the one with the churches
one of grace, I've heard that.
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Yeah, dispensationalism.
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Yes. And then I've heard,
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well, God's chosen people
are still the nation of Israel
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and He's still going to
do a mass conversion there
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through
evangelistic means and things
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coming from the church,
we need to protect them.
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And this is where
some of this fighting
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these wars come from
in our support of Israel.
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But I don't want to
just jump on the bandwagon
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that she is on here and say,
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that we shouldn't
defend Israel. Right.
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On those reasons that
they are God's chosen people,
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I would say we should not
use that to defend Israel.
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We as a nation, if we call
ourselves a Christian nation
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it means that we stand up
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for the rights of
others as Jesus did.
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And so there are sometimes
when nations are threatened
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that we intervene and we
step in as a "Big brother".
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And in this case
probably the right kind of term
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with big brother where we say,
we will stand with these people
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if you try to hurt them we
will defend them. Like allies.
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Yeah, and I just think that's
an important thing to realize
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that just on that
level it's a good thing.
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I believe that if our nation,
if the United States do not
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or did not defend or has not
stood by the nation of Israel,
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it would
probably cease to exist.
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Because with so many
of the Middle East nations
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they want to destroy Israel
and have outright said so.
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But back to this issue of
Israel as God's chosen people
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it doesn't seem to be
what the Bible is telling us.
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Number one, it's pretty clear
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that the Bible says
that the nation of Israel,
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specifically its
leaders were instrumental
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in the crucifixion
of Christ, the Messiah.
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I don't find anywhere
where a nation or a people
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that not only crucified
Him but continues to reject Him
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is called God's
chosen people. Right.
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Those who follow
Christ, who obey Him
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are the ones
that are His people.
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And that's just one point.
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Number two, Paul didn't
agree with this notion either
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and if we turn to
Romans Chapter 9. Okay.
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And beginning with verse 6,
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he says these words
and just to give you
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some background
before I read this verse.
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Paul was dealing with
and working with a church
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that was comprised
of Jews and Gentiles,
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they were coming together.
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The Jews had a
superiority complex
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and that the
oracles of God had come
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and been passed
down through them
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and they felt like
they were in a position
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not only of authority
but a position of knowledge
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that the Gentiles did not have.
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And they were
throwing this out constantly
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and probably the
feeling by the Gentiles
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was that they were being
tugged down to a great degree.
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They were trying to enforce
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their ceremonial
laws in some aspects,
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the feast, the sacrifices,
those things to a degree.
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The way they viewed foods
and what was acceptable to eat,
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what was not acceptable to eat
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as far as what was
offered to idols. Right.
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Those things they were imposing
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and so several
times Paul writes letters
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to intervene in this discussion,
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this argument and
says leave it alone.
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We are under Christ, under His
grace, under His Lordship now.
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We are not under the old system
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and not only were they
not under the old system
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Paul says these words about
the nation of Israel. Right.
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And we're reading
from verse 6 of Romans 9.
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"But it is not that the Word
of God has taken no effect."
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Of course not
because the word passed down
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through Israel has now
taken root in the early church.
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"For they are not all
Israel who are of Israel
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nor are they all children
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because they are
the seed of Abraham."
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Now that's a
powerful statement there.
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If you're a Jew
living in that time
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your defense was I'm a child,
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I'm a child, the seed of Abraham
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and the promise
was given to Abraham.
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In fact, how many times
I can't account right away,
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but numerous times that
was there defense with Christ.
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True. We're the
chosen of Israel.
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We're the Abraham's seed. Right.
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You know, it was this,
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you know, they were thinking
very highly of themselves
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and that they were
genetically linked to Abraham.
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Matter of fact when Jesus
came in the New Testament,
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when He was
speaking to the Jews then,
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they said, we have
never been slaves to sin,
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we are Abraham's seed.
That was a point of boasting.
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Even in the parable of
the rich man and Lazarus.
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The reason why the Lord used
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the designation
of the rich man died
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and was buried
in Abraham's bosom.
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I mean, sorry the poor man died
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and was buried
in Abraham's bosom.
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It was because the
Jews believed that,
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hey, it was only their right
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to be anything
connecting with Abraham.
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So the Lord used that analogy
or that parabolic language
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and he continually
emphasized Abraham, Abraham,
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Abraham because they said,
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hey, we're
Abraham's descendants.
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Even the time when He
met the woman at the well,
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that was the biggest,
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this well was given to
us by our Father Abraham.
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So you continually go
down the gamut of Abraham,
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but I want to add something
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before I turn it
back over to you here.
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In Galatians 3 because you
brought out the term Abraham
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or the word Abraham when
you just read Romans Chapter 9,
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in other words,
those who are of Israel
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and not all
Israel and those who,
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even those who are of Abraham's
seed or not all Israel.
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So the question is,
how does Christ designate
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and what place does Abraham have
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when it applies to
the Christian faith?
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Galatians 3: 26-29.
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It reads "For you
are all the sons of God
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through faith in Christ Jesus."
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And notice he
says, are the sons of God
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because they were boasting
about being the sons Abraham.
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"You are all the sons of God
through faith in Christ Jesus.
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For as many of
you as were baptized
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into Christ have put on Christ."
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Verse 28, now
this is very important
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and this is where
the big argument was.
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"There is neither Jew nor Greek.
There is neither slave nor free.
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There is
neither male nor female,
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for you are all one in Christ.
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And if you are Christ's,
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then you are Abraham's seed and
heirs according to the promise."
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And so there a
lot of people say,
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well, the reason why
Israel is receiving the promises
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because they are
literal Israelites.
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Christ said that's
not the application.
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If you belong to Me then you are
heirs according to the promise.
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Then you are
really Abraham's seed.
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So I'm looking for a spiritual
inheritance rather than genetic.
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See that's a big part of it.
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And I think that's
what you're talking about.
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In fact, Romans 9
concludes in verse 8
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"That is, those who are
the children of the flesh,
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these are not
the children of God."
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Okay, there you go.
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He's basically saying
those who are the nation
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genetically, ethnically,
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those who are part of
that nation of the flesh
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are not the children of God.
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So that's a direct
answer to the statement.
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Are they God's chosen
people? The answer would be no.
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And also even further
when it--talks about the flesh.
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There was that battle between
the flesh and the spirit.
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And he says if you
are carnal, first of all,
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if you are just
naturally born into the nation
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don't consider
yourself immediately
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a part of my promise,
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just because you're
born into the family.
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I think, Walter
Peterson once said,
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even if you are born on
the front pew of a church
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you still need to be
born again. There you go.
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And so that was the big
issue they were not born again,
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until we're
born again we are not
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heirs according to the promise.
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And the other thing is the flesh
issue was a big part of it.
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So the natural as
well as the carnal
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both need to
have an accompaniment
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by being born again
spiritually. That's right.
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You know the other
aspect to this too is that--
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the other kinds of
theology have to come into play,
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if you adapt this
method or this teaching.
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And I know that
some of the difficulties
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lies in the symbolism used
in say the Book of Revelation
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because you have the 12
tribes of Israel listed there.
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And they say, well, look,
then there are literal tribes
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and this is the
actual nation of Israel
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seeing reconverted
back at the end of time.
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But the issue here has
more to do with the transference
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from old to new covenant,
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because under the new covenant
you have here a situation
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where not only is it
an explanation of exactly
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how we are saved
which is through Christ
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even way back
during Abraham's day
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was faith in those
sacrifices of a coming Messiah
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that saved them. Right.
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They weren't
saved by law back then.
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It's by grace they were saved.
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But secondly here is
there would be no reason
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to have established the church
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had Israel fulfilled
the promise. That's right.
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But they were not
willing to do that.
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They were not
willing to receive the call
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that God had placed on
them to accept their Messiah,
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usher in His ministry
and then finish the work
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of bringing
salvation to all the world.
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That's why Jesus
established the church. Right.
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So there aren't--I
found no where in the gospels
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where there is
two running covenants,
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two running people of God
separately doing God's work.
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It is one chosen
people, it always has been.
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It's remnant
theology and through that line
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God brings
salvation to all the world.
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You made a point earlier, John,
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which is very
important to reemphasize
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about the
nation and its leaders.
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Particularly, the
leaders of Israel were the ones
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that were partners
in the calling down
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of the crucifixion on Christ.
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Matthew 23: 38 that's why
Jesus made this statement,
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"Behold your house is
left unto you desolate."
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He didn't even identify
with their house at all,
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but earlier He says,
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my house shall be
called the house of prayer
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and when they
rejected Christ He says,
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"Behold, your house is
left unto you desolate." Yeah.
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So He even rejected
anything that had to with their
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way of worship,
their methods of religion,
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that's why when He died
the temple curtain was torn
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from top to bottom
exposing the very thing
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that they had placed so
much of there security in
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and that's the
crucifixion of a literal lamb
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when they
rejected the spotless Lamb
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who was Christ Jesus.
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All this continual
rejection along the way
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and then they
called down on them,
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and then they called
down on them the curse.
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His blood, be on us
and on our children.
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I know some people try to make
that a spiritual application.
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But that was not a
spiritual application
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saying in the very same way,
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as the person will
say, well, I'm saved
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because I'm covered
by the blood of the lamb.
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That was saying let the
guilt of His death be on us.
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We'll own up to
the guilt of His death.
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We'll take the
responsibility for killing Him
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that's what that was,
not a blessing by any means.
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Even with the
preaching of Paul and Barnabas,
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it's recorded there in Acts 13
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that when the
Jews saw this happening
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it says they
were filled with envy
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and they
blasphemed against the word
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that was being
preached about Jesus.
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And then it says in verse 46,
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"Paul and Barnabas
grew bold and said,
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'It was necessary
that the word of God
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should be spoken to you first.'"
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In other words,
God always goes back
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and gives another
opportunity to repent.
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"But they said,
since you reject it,
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and judge yourselves
unworthy of everlasting life,
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behold, we turn
to the Gentiles."
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We only have
gone to the Gentiles
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and established the church here
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because you have
rejected Christ and His gospel
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and that is still the
case today, they reject Christ.
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Now let not someone
think that we're being hateful
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because there's a political
correctness that goes on here.
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They say, well,
that's very hateful words
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to say you know
that the Jews are,
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you know, they crucified Christ
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and they are not
God's chosen people.
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We're just telling you what
the facts of God's word says.
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The other thing of
what God's word says is that
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they can be grafted
back in. That's right.
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To the wine, one
wine, that's Christ.
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They can be grafted back in
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by accepting
Christ as the Messiah,
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through faith they are God's
people again. That's right.
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And I believe to a
great degree many will come.
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Of course, many have.
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And have come to knowledge
of Jesus Christ as the Messiah,
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so praise God for that.
And so we're not attacking.
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We're just simply
saying theologically.
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The Bible says, one line,
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one remnant through which Christ
saves by faith, it's the church.
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And let me go ahead and
broaden the platform here
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because in New
York City there's a--
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being from New York City,
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I saw that there's a
great Jewish population
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in the city of New York.
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And many though
having accepted Christ,
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there's a movement
called Jews for Jesus
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or somebody may say,
what's so unique about that?
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Well, the only reason
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why that's has a kind
of a unique connotations
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because for the most part
Jews are still looking forward
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to the coming of the
Messiah, the first time.
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Messiah, they haven't accepted
the first advent of Christ.
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So for those who have accepted
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the first advent
of Christ they say,
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we are Jews, but
we are for Jesus.
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You see, but if you
think of the general term
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Jews for Jesus,
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it wouldn't be
any different than,
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you know, the Spanish for Jesus
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or the African
American for Jesus
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or the Europeans for Jesus.
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Anybody who is for Jesus
is a part of the promise.
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You see, so there's no,
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in that sense the generalization
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is not making anybody exclusive.
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The point of the matter
is there is no salvation
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in any other name
other than the name of Jesus.
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So if you feel
that because of the way
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He came the first time,
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He says in the
First Book of John,
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John Chapter 1, He says,
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"I came to my own and
they did not receive me."
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So it makes it very, very clear,
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the very nation He chose
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is the one that
ended up rejecting Him.
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And so that's why it's
still to this very day,
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just to add one
last component to this,
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because you led the
question by talking about Israel
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and we talked about that term
is not just a literal nation,
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but a spiritual terminology.
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And the reason this
is widely important is
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because when you
get down to Revelation
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and it talks about
the 12 tribes of Israel.
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They must understand that
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that is the tribes
of those who overcome,
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not 12 literal
tribes of this original line
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of national Israelites
like all the way through.
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Right, which is the
typical way it's tied.
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Which is the dispensational view
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that the nation of Israel
literally will be converted
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and now preach the gospel
to the world in the very end.
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That's not what
it's talking about
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because here in Genesis 32:28,
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we read these words.
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"And he said, that is God said,
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"Your name shall no
longer be called Jacob
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but Israel for you
have struggled with God
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and with men
and have prevailed."
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And then one more
Genesis 35:10 here it is,
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"And God said to
him, your name is Jacob,
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you shall not be
called Jacob anymore
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but Israel shall be your name,
so he called his name Israel."
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And so the word
Israel means the over comers.
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So when it talks about
to him that over cometh,
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that's the 12 tribes,
those spiritual inheritance
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which is made
up of every nation,
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every kindred, every
tongue, every people, you see.
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So that's what
something that's very important
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to point out that
when Revelation mention
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the 12 tribes at Israel its
not going to back to lineage
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and even though it
mentions them by name,
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one of the reasons why
it mentions them by name
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like the tribe of Benjamin
and Zebulun and Issachar
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and all those it's because
if you follow their lives
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each of them had a
particular weakness.
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And when you get down to Genesis
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the one that had a
weakness that he did not over--
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sorry, when you
get down to Revelation,
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the one that's not
mentioned there is Dan
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because Dan had a
particular weakness
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that he never overcame
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and he was replaced by a
Manasseh which was a grandson.
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I think, there's
one other one too,
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Ephraim was replaced by Joseph.
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Okay, so there you go.
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So you see that
this whole ideology
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that there's a
literal descendants,
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this unbroken bloodline all
the way through is not the case.
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Yeah. And then, I
think some of that feeds--
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back to the
question feeds this desire
00:21:22.09\00:21:24.74
as a Christian
nation to defend Israel
00:21:24.77\00:21:26.62
because we believe that
it's our obligation to do that.
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Where as more it's
more of a Christ like desire
00:21:30.56\00:21:34.75
to defend those
that are defenseless,
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that really should be our
reason for defending any nation.
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And we have allies with a
number of other countries,
00:21:39.32\00:21:43.16
but that if they
were in a pickle,
00:21:43.19\00:21:45.93
militarily that's speaking
though it's a very small word
00:21:45.96\00:21:49.37
to use when it comes
to military strength,
00:21:49.40\00:21:51.59
the pickle, doesn't
sound like it's very strong,
00:21:51.62\00:21:54.21
but if they were ever
in a military situation
00:21:54.24\00:21:56.67
that they needed to be
defended, the United States,
00:21:56.70\00:21:58.79
its allies with a lot of
other countries and vice versa.
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I don't want to go down
the list and start naming
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the nations,
that's not important.
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However, thank you
for the point that--
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and in a nutshell
we are all Israelites
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as we overcoming Christ.
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We are all Abraham's seed
if we are in Christ. Amen.
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I have another question.
This was a really great letter.
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By the way the
person said though,
00:22:23.75\00:22:25.12
this is not to be
answered on the air,
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there is no question here
00:22:27.98\00:22:29.46
but the point that
was made in the letter,
00:22:29.49\00:22:31.63
I want to make
out of a question,
00:22:31.66\00:22:34.31
pointing out that Sunday
should be the day of worship
00:22:34.34\00:22:39.95
because Jesus was
resurrected on Sunday
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and that was the
one line in this letter.
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The person who
sent this letter read
00:22:46.94\00:22:49.11
the book "The
Great Controversy."
00:22:49.14\00:22:50.99
Said it was the best book
00:22:51.02\00:22:52.39
that she'd ever read and
beautifully, wonderfully,
00:22:52.42\00:22:59.28
gave accolade to the whole book
00:22:59.31\00:23:02.46
even pointing out that
it was just phenomenal.
00:23:02.49\00:23:05.90
Why is this book
not the selling market?
00:23:05.93\00:23:08.38
Why are more people not
getting a chance to read this?
00:23:08.41\00:23:10.92
In particular,
wishing that more Catholics
00:23:10.95\00:23:15.00
had a chance to read this book
00:23:15.03\00:23:16.68
and I could understand that
00:23:16.71\00:23:18.17
because majority of
my family is Catholic
00:23:18.20\00:23:20.21
and I would second that emotion.
00:23:20.24\00:23:23.51
But they also went on to
point out that the only thing
00:23:23.54\00:23:29.42
I did not agree within the
book was the day of worship
00:23:29.45\00:23:32.35
and probably the only thing
00:23:32.38\00:23:33.84
that the Roman
Catholic religion got right
00:23:33.87\00:23:36.28
was that they honor
Sunday as a day of worship
00:23:36.31\00:23:41.68
and they went on to say Sunday
should be a day of worship
00:23:41.71\00:23:45.31
because Jesus was
resurrected on Sunday.
00:23:45.34\00:23:48.27
This was His first
day and the Jewish nation
00:23:48.30\00:23:55.03
knew who Jesus
was, who He said He was.
00:23:55.06\00:23:58.18
This is His day and should
be our day to remember Him.
00:23:58.21\00:24:02.33
So this thing,
well, Sunday was His day.
00:24:02.36\00:24:04.70
Well, in reality, every day is,
00:24:04.73\00:24:07.15
every day belongs to the Lord
00:24:07.18\00:24:09.16
because He created every day,
00:24:09.19\00:24:11.08
but He didn't say every
day should be honored as holy.
00:24:11.11\00:24:13.56
Well, yeah, He only
blessed and sanctified one day.
00:24:13.59\00:24:15.33
Only blessed and sanctified one.
00:24:15.36\00:24:16.73
So the big issue
here that I want to raise
00:24:16.76\00:24:18.13
in the initial question is,
00:24:18.16\00:24:20.36
do we believe that
because Christ rose on Sunday
00:24:20.39\00:24:25.19
that we now need to establish
00:24:25.22\00:24:27.94
a new day in honor
of His resurrection.
00:24:27.97\00:24:30.53
Well, a lot of
people failed to realize,
00:24:30.56\00:24:33.20
let me give you two
things that the Bible
00:24:33.23\00:24:34.64
has already established.
00:24:34.67\00:24:36.09
There's already a ceremony
in the Bible established.
00:24:36.12\00:24:39.41
I'm going to use another word,
there's already an observance--
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okay, I'll go back
to the word ceremony.
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There is already an
established ceremony
00:24:44.89\00:24:47.61
in the Bible to
honor His resurrection.
00:24:47.64\00:24:50.63
There's already an
established ceremony
00:24:50.66\00:24:53.74
to honor the crucifixion.
00:24:53.77\00:24:56.09
So the day of
worship is established
00:24:56.12\00:24:58.52
and the ceremony in
honor of His resurrection
00:24:58.55\00:25:02.06
and they don't
conflict with each other.
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But this ideology that
Sunday is the day of worship.
00:25:04.33\00:25:07.62
Sunday is the day
that should be the day
00:25:07.65\00:25:09.37
that we honor is not something
00:25:09.40\00:25:11.09
that the Bible
can support at all.
00:25:11.12\00:25:13.43
So as nice as it may seem
and as convenient as it may seem
00:25:13.46\00:25:15.22
and as convenient as it may seem
00:25:15.25\00:25:17.72
and even on the other
note as many as honor it as,
00:25:17.75\00:25:21.20
hey, we honor Sunday because
it's the resurrection day.
00:25:21.23\00:25:25.10
You can do that if you want to,
00:25:25.13\00:25:27.25
but you cannot
replace the Sabbath
00:25:27.28\00:25:29.36
and now say, this
is the Christian day
00:25:29.39\00:25:31.68
and this is the day
we're going to keep.
00:25:31.71\00:25:34.25
Oh, when it comes down
to who is your authority?
00:25:34.28\00:25:37.03
Because even the
Roman Catholic priest,
00:25:37.06\00:25:39.70
if you ask this gal here
00:25:39.73\00:25:41.97
who writes this
letter would ask them,
00:25:42.00\00:25:43.57
they would say, it's
not on the word. Right.
00:25:43.60\00:25:45.91
That we honor Sunday, it's
on the authority of the church.
00:25:45.94\00:25:50.81
And so even they acknowledge
00:25:50.84\00:25:53.34
and we've said
this over and over again
00:25:53.37\00:25:55.67
that the change of the Sabbath
is simply not in the Bible.
00:25:55.70\00:25:59.49
But I would answer it
from another approach.
00:25:59.52\00:26:03.18
She's mentioning that we should
use that as a day of worship
00:26:03.21\00:26:05.82
because of the resurrection,
00:26:05.85\00:26:07.22
but that's not really
what the Sabbath is all about.
00:26:07.25\00:26:11.42
And I know that
we're going to cover
00:26:11.45\00:26:13.36
maybe some different aspects
00:26:13.39\00:26:15.38
and the Sabbath
will tie into this
00:26:15.41\00:26:16.82
because our subject is
on the Ten Commandments
00:26:16.85\00:26:18.54
coming up here for
the next two programs.
00:26:18.57\00:26:20.14
But just on this issue,
if you look really quickly
00:26:20.17\00:26:22.49
there are two
Sabbath commandments
00:26:22.52\00:26:24.90
given in the Pentateuch,
00:26:24.93\00:26:26.43
one is Exodus 20 and the
other is Deuteronomy 5, right?
00:26:26.46\00:26:32.99
And if you look at Exodus 20,
00:26:33.02\00:26:35.59
it says that it
connects the Seventh day Sabbath
00:26:35.62\00:26:39.00
which belongs
to the Lord thy God
00:26:39.03\00:26:41.95
and then it
connects it with creation.
00:26:41.98\00:26:44.86
That there were
six days of creation
00:26:44.89\00:26:46.49
and the seventh day
He rested from His work.
00:26:46.52\00:26:50.09
But it's interesting
that in Deuteronomy 5,
00:26:50.12\00:26:53.81
that language is
not entirely the same.
00:26:53.84\00:26:58.24
Right, it's not duplicated.
00:26:58.27\00:26:59.73
But the subject is similar
00:26:59.76\00:27:01.84
and so we can learn more about
00:27:01.87\00:27:03.24
what the meaning
of the Sabbath is
00:27:03.27\00:27:04.68
and while we observe it
from looking at the transcript
00:27:04.71\00:27:08.23
in Deuteronomy Chapter 5
in regard to the Sabbath.
00:27:08.26\00:27:10.68
Look at this. What
verse you're looking at?
00:27:10.71\00:27:12.74
I'm looking at verse 12. Okay.
00:27:12.77\00:27:16.36
Which goes on to observe--
00:27:16.39\00:27:17.76
it says observe the
Sabbath day to keep it holy,
00:27:17.79\00:27:20.49
very similar as you read
down through verses 13 and 14,
00:27:20.52\00:27:23.39
but then look at verse 15
00:27:23.42\00:27:25.14
that isn't there in the
original Ten Commandments.
00:27:25.17\00:27:28.71
--not exactly.
00:27:28.74\00:27:30.94
And remember that you were
a slave in the land of Egypt
00:27:30.97\00:27:35.02
and that the Lord
your God brought you out
00:27:35.05\00:27:37.35
from there by a mighty
hand and by an outstretched arm,
00:27:37.38\00:27:42.07
therefore, the Lord your God
00:27:42.10\00:27:43.51
commanded you to
keep the Sabbath day.
00:27:43.54\00:27:47.89
The Sabbath is about creation,
00:27:47.92\00:27:49.85
yes, but it's
also about recreation.
00:27:49.88\00:27:53.09
That's right, freedom.
00:27:53.12\00:27:54.49
Deliverance and
freedom from sin.
00:27:54.52\00:27:57.51
So everything
about the Sabbath is
00:27:57.54\00:28:00.35
what God is doing
through His creative
00:28:00.38\00:28:02.65
and redemptive work
through His people. Right.
00:28:02.68\00:28:05.36
So when we observe
the Sabbath calling it
00:28:05.39\00:28:08.28
the true Lord's day
which is the seventh day,
00:28:08.31\00:28:10.30
we're honoring Him as not only
our creator, but our redeemer.
00:28:10.33\00:28:15.55
In fact, if you want to put
the exclamation point on this,
00:28:15.58\00:28:18.64
look at Hebrews.
00:28:18.67\00:28:20.59
Just real quick,
Hebrews Chapter 5,
00:28:20.62\00:28:25.50
where it says
there in regard to rest,
00:28:25.53\00:28:31.00
it connects it with
the same line of thinking,
00:28:31.03\00:28:32.55
excuse me Hebrews 4,
00:28:32.58\00:28:34.81
"For indeed the
gospel was preached to us
00:28:34.84\00:28:36.81
as well as to them but the word
they heard did not profit them,
00:28:36.84\00:28:39.59
that is the Jews as a
nation not being mixed
00:28:39.62\00:28:42.28
with the faith and
those who heard it."
00:28:42.31\00:28:45.35
And then it goes on
there talking about God
00:28:45.38\00:28:47.45
rested the seventh day
from all His works, verse 4.
00:28:47.48\00:28:50.95
And then He promises in verse 5,
00:28:50.98\00:28:53.42
that they shall
not enter my rest.
00:28:53.45\00:28:56.94
So it was the
disobedience of Israel
00:28:56.97\00:28:59.98
that they will not
enter it into rest.
00:29:00.01\00:29:01.81
Now how ironic is that?
00:29:01.84\00:29:03.97
But ones that say that--
00:29:04.00\00:29:06.03
that the Sabbath is
so important are told
00:29:06.06\00:29:08.98
they will not enter the
rest because of disobedience.
00:29:09.01\00:29:12.17
But the ones that are God's
true people through the church
00:29:12.20\00:29:17.00
and through faith are rejecting
the rest God offers them.
00:29:17.03\00:29:20.93
That's right, that's sad.
00:29:20.96\00:29:22.41
That is sad, not only
it's ironic, it's very sad.
00:29:22.44\00:29:25.75
So we need to understand
00:29:25.78\00:29:27.15
that this Sabbath
wasn't made for the Jews.
00:29:27.18\00:29:29.01
It was established at creation,
00:29:29.04\00:29:30.41
its means made
for us. That's right.
00:29:30.44\00:29:32.46
And it not only
is tied to creation
00:29:32.49\00:29:34.01
but it's tied to our salvation.
00:29:34.04\00:29:35.83
It is not tied
to the resurrection.
00:29:35.86\00:29:39.63
No where in the
Bible is the Sabbath
00:29:39.66\00:29:41.37
tied to the resurrection.
00:29:41.40\00:29:43.12
It's a nice
thought from this gal
00:29:43.15\00:29:45.22
that she says that
we should honor the day
00:29:45.25\00:29:47.73
that He was resurrected,
00:29:47.76\00:29:49.13
but there's already
services for that. That's right.
00:29:49.16\00:29:52.20
But the Sabbath
is not one of them.
00:29:52.23\00:29:54.06
And by the way just to
make it very, very clear
00:29:54.09\00:29:56.97
a lot of times
people read and say,
00:29:57.00\00:29:59.31
well, sure, let's
go ahead and honor,
00:29:59.34\00:30:02.03
that the Lord
made it extremely clear
00:30:02.06\00:30:04.49
even in the New Testament.
00:30:04.52\00:30:06.95
Mark 2:27, 28.
00:30:06.98\00:30:10.95
"He said to them, the
Sabbath was made for man
00:30:10.98\00:30:14.90
and not man for the Sabbath,
00:30:14.93\00:30:16.72
therefore the Son of man
is also Lord of the Sabbath."
00:30:16.75\00:30:21.61
So he's saying the
Sabbath is made for men,
00:30:21.64\00:30:24.24
when was it made? At
the end of creation week.
00:30:24.27\00:30:26.83
So you have the Roman
Catholic Church comes along
00:30:26.86\00:30:29.40
and during the
dark ages changes it
00:30:29.43\00:30:31.95
and everybody else
jumps on board and say,
00:30:31.98\00:30:33.80
hey, we like this
new one it fits better.
00:30:33.83\00:30:35.62
You know why it fits better?
00:30:35.65\00:30:37.09
Because it's more convenient,
00:30:37.12\00:30:38.49
you don't have to
honor the whole day,
00:30:38.52\00:30:40.08
you do your holy hour or
holy two hours and you go home.
00:30:40.11\00:30:44.41
You go home or you
go to a football game
00:30:44.44\00:30:46.28
or you go shopping at a mall
00:30:46.31\00:30:47.92
or you go out
playing, you go out fishing
00:30:47.95\00:30:50.17
or you go out playing baseball.
00:30:50.20\00:30:51.72
It's not a holy day.
00:30:51.75\00:30:53.20
It's a few hours you kind
of do your daily two hour,
00:30:53.23\00:30:55.60
your weekly two hours and
you go about your business.
00:30:55.63\00:30:58.05
You know it's weird
because we fight about the day,
00:30:58.08\00:31:00.29
but what the rest
of the commandment?
00:31:00.32\00:31:01.73
Exactly, the whole day.
00:31:01.76\00:31:04.01
So they don't keep Sunday
00:31:04.04\00:31:05.51
is not a holy day
in the Christian world.
00:31:05.54\00:31:08.32
It's a holy couple of hours
and you can't even make it holy
00:31:08.35\00:31:11.28
because God hasn't made it holy.
00:31:11.31\00:31:13.27
You can't make something
holy that God hasn't made holy.
00:31:13.30\00:31:16.47
Let me use a perfect
classic example here.
00:31:16.50\00:31:18.68
You cannot make this hopefully
will drive the point home.
00:31:18.71\00:31:23.27
When the Bible says, thou
shall not commit adultery.
00:31:23.30\00:31:25.61
Let's make this as
a seventh commandment.
00:31:25.64\00:31:27.33
What is adultery?
00:31:27.36\00:31:28.73
It's a violation of a marriage
between a man and a woman,
00:31:28.76\00:31:32.05
between a man and a woman.
00:31:32.08\00:31:34.93
Okay, so now, marriage,
do you believe as a Christian
00:31:34.96\00:31:37.57
that marriage is
between a man and a woman?
00:31:37.60\00:31:40.24
Well, you know what,
00:31:40.27\00:31:42.06
people that don't
agree with you could say,
00:31:42.09\00:31:44.08
marriage is between a man
and a man and I prefer that.
00:31:44.11\00:31:48.31
Well, by them changing the
Sabbath to their preference
00:31:48.34\00:31:51.80
as I changing marriage to
the other people's preference.
00:31:51.83\00:31:55.71
They prefer a man marrying a
man or a woman marrying a woman,
00:31:55.74\00:31:59.46
will make that any
different from taking
00:31:59.49\00:32:01.65
the Sabbath from
Saturday to Sunday.
00:32:01.68\00:32:03.40
It's a violation still
of the marriage commandment.
00:32:03.43\00:32:06.19
Yeah. See.
00:32:06.22\00:32:07.67
Powerful. You know and we
get the statement here they say,
00:32:07.70\00:32:10.95
you know, John and John,
00:32:10.98\00:32:12.35
you know, you
talk about the Sabbath,
00:32:12.38\00:32:13.75
you pin this up, you know,
we're tired of hearing about it.
00:32:13.78\00:32:17.23
We're bringing up
because we get letters
00:32:17.26\00:32:18.91
and questions on
this all the time.
00:32:18.94\00:32:21.17
And I know we get
some letters that say,
00:32:21.20\00:32:22.72
well, you're
talking about it so much
00:32:22.75\00:32:24.12
but overwhelmingly
people are asking about this.
00:32:24.15\00:32:25.94
People are asking about it.
And the issue really is here.
00:32:25.97\00:32:28.35
I had a question that
someone asked me one time
00:32:28.38\00:32:30.19
and they said,
"Pastor, are you saying
00:32:30.22\00:32:34.30
that I have to keep
the Sabbath to be saved?"
00:32:34.33\00:32:37.46
They want to get
down to brass tacks.
00:32:37.49\00:32:38.86
They want to get
down to the basic issue.
00:32:38.89\00:32:41.02
Pastor, do I have to
keep the Sabbath to be saved,
00:32:41.05\00:32:43.57
is that what you're saying?
00:32:43.60\00:32:45.19
Because that will be
legalism, my answer was this.
00:32:45.22\00:32:48.81
I tried-the Lord spoke
to me I felt in this moment
00:32:48.84\00:32:51.73
and I said whatever
answer to your question
00:32:51.76\00:32:55.62
that you would give for
any of the other commandments
00:32:55.65\00:32:58.61
give for the fourth.
00:32:58.64\00:33:00.01
Thank you. Thank you, John.
00:33:00.04\00:33:01.45
Whatever answer you give
00:33:01.48\00:33:02.85
for any of the
others give for the fourth.
00:33:02.88\00:33:05.04
Do I have to stop
committing adultery?
00:33:05.07\00:33:07.26
Do I have to stop stealing?
Do I have to stop murdering?
00:33:07.29\00:33:10.09
Do I have to stop
lying to be saved?
00:33:10.12\00:33:13.76
Well, I find very few
that would start arguing
00:33:13.79\00:33:16.55
that you have to stop being
a murderer to be saved. Right.
00:33:16.58\00:33:19.82
But when we talk
about the Sabbath
00:33:19.85\00:33:21.53
all of a sudden
becomes big issue
00:33:21.56\00:33:23.63
because we're
trampling on someone's--
00:33:23.66\00:33:25.91
Preference. Preference, exactly.
00:33:25.94\00:33:28.87
So my answer is whatever answer
00:33:28.90\00:33:30.67
you're gonna give for the others
00:33:30.70\00:33:32.07
in regard to your
salvation give for the fourth.
00:33:32.10\00:33:34.32
It's one of the commandments.
These aren't 10 suggestions.
00:33:34.35\00:33:36.16
It's not a smorgasbord
00:33:36.19\00:33:37.56
I'll take a little of
this, a little of that.
00:33:37.59\00:33:38.96
God said the
seventh day is the Sabbath.
00:33:38.99\00:33:41.46
Now the other issue here is,
00:33:41.49\00:33:43.52
well, I hear the
response already.
00:33:43.55\00:33:45.27
Well, how do you know, which
day was really the Sabbath?
00:33:45.30\00:33:47.64
Because it's
been so long gone by,
00:33:47.67\00:33:49.42
anyway I'll answer
that in the second,
00:33:49.45\00:33:50.82
you want to comment.
00:33:50.85\00:33:52.22
Because we're going to
actually talk about that
00:33:52.25\00:33:53.62
in our topic today.
00:33:53.65\00:33:55.02
But I'm so glad that
you're making that point
00:33:55.05\00:33:57.85
and just to come
across very carefully
00:33:57.88\00:34:00.54
and very cleanly but very
surefooted on the Word of God.
00:34:00.57\00:34:05.80
This issue should not--
the Sabbath should not be
00:34:05.83\00:34:08.90
an offensive
observance if God is your God.
00:34:08.93\00:34:14.36
That's just what really
when it comes down to you.
00:34:14.39\00:34:15.93
You said that in the very
beginning the seventh day,
00:34:15.96\00:34:19.19
Exodus 20:
10-11, the seventh day
00:34:19.22\00:34:23.86
is the Sabbath of
the Lord your God.
00:34:23.89\00:34:27.48
You remember that
Uncle Sam's finger,
00:34:27.51\00:34:29.37
Uncle Sam wants you.
00:34:29.40\00:34:30.77
The seventh day is the
Sabbath of the Lord your God.
00:34:30.80\00:34:33.91
So it comes down
to who is your God?
00:34:33.94\00:34:37.20
If you believe in the authority
00:34:37.23\00:34:38.85
of the Roman Catholic Church
00:34:38.88\00:34:40.25
above the Bible which they say
00:34:40.28\00:34:42.48
they have the
strength above the Bible.
00:34:42.51\00:34:44.83
To make this
change. To make this change.
00:34:44.86\00:34:46.98
If you believe that
they are above the Bible
00:34:47.01\00:34:50.19
then you're honoring
Sunday in recognition
00:34:50.22\00:34:51.83
to the Roman Catholic Church.
00:34:51.86\00:34:53.40
You are not honoring Sunday
00:34:53.43\00:34:54.80
in reference to
Christ resurrection
00:34:54.83\00:34:56.47
because and I mentioned this,
00:34:56.50\00:34:59.64
baptism is in honor of
the resurrection not Sunday.
00:34:59.67\00:35:06.84
As many of us as
were baptized into Christ
00:35:06.87\00:35:11.46
have put on
Christ. Romans Chapter 6--
00:35:11.49\00:35:13.91
Are baptized into His
resurrection, it says.
00:35:13.94\00:35:16.25
Into His resurrection.
00:35:16.28\00:35:17.65
So we're being baptized
00:35:17.68\00:35:19.05
we're coming forth to
walk in the newness of life,
00:35:19.08\00:35:21.12
the old has passed away,
00:35:21.15\00:35:23.29
we have put on the new
life, that's the resurrection.
00:35:23.32\00:35:26.56
The baptism is in honor
of the resurrection of Christ
00:35:26.59\00:35:29.34
not the first day of the week.
00:35:29.37\00:35:30.74
But, you know,
John, what gets me is
00:35:30.77\00:35:32.33
Christianity today is like a--
00:35:32.36\00:35:36.60
is like one part
lemonade, nine parts water.
00:35:36.63\00:35:42.96
Now let me go back to
how it's supposed to be.
00:35:42.99\00:35:46.46
It supposed to be
ten parts lemonade,
00:35:46.49\00:35:48.63
zero parts water
and I'm using this.
00:35:48.66\00:35:51.07
Let me just use
a different thing,
00:35:51.10\00:35:52.47
lemonade is kind of
cheapie type of thing.
00:35:52.50\00:35:55.67
Let's use grape juice
straight from the vine
00:35:55.70\00:35:57.56
because the grape
is used in the Bible.
00:35:57.59\00:35:59.82
Ten parts grape juice
00:35:59.85\00:36:01.56
but what's
happened is Christianity
00:36:01.59\00:36:04.87
has been diluted
through out the centuries
00:36:04.90\00:36:07.97
with all these traditions
00:36:08.00\00:36:09.37
and Sunday is one of
the biggest traditions
00:36:09.40\00:36:12.58
that Christians have
now found a convenient.
00:36:12.61\00:36:15.63
Ah, it's really great.
00:36:15.66\00:36:17.03
I could go to
church and I could relax
00:36:17.06\00:36:20.35
and you know this this
fits my schedule a lot better
00:36:20.38\00:36:25.31
and I'm glad you mentioned that.
00:36:25.34\00:36:26.89
And the other reason too is that
00:36:26.92\00:36:28.29
people are defensive about
00:36:28.32\00:36:29.69
what they have
always believed. Yeah.
00:36:29.72\00:36:31.09
I've read a statement here
not too long ago that people--
00:36:31.12\00:36:35.19
I'm going to
use it statistically
00:36:35.22\00:36:36.59
and they say that more
people nine out of ten,
00:36:36.62\00:36:38.47
upwards of nine
out of ten people
00:36:38.50\00:36:41.66
react rather then reflect.
00:36:41.69\00:36:46.69
In other words, when they
hear something that opposes
00:36:46.72\00:36:49.76
or may contradict
their system of believes.
00:36:49.79\00:36:52.85
Instead of reflecting on that
00:36:52.88\00:36:54.54
and studying it out
and thinking about it,
00:36:54.57\00:36:56.61
they react against it. Right.
00:36:56.64\00:36:58.55
And I find even on forums
where this discussion comes up
00:36:58.58\00:37:01.37
about the seventh day Sabbath
you know and honoring that
00:37:01.40\00:37:04.34
and it's highly reactionary.
00:37:04.37\00:37:07.56
It's repeating the same thing.
00:37:07.59\00:37:08.96
It's like politics, if
you say it enough times
00:37:08.99\00:37:11.31
they will believe it.
00:37:11.34\00:37:12.71
If you keep quoting
the same verses Romans 14,
00:37:12.74\00:37:15.30
Colossians 2, if you keep
saying that they'll believe it.
00:37:15.33\00:37:19.23
You can't go
there. No, you can't.
00:37:19.26\00:37:20.88
Because those
questions have been answered
00:37:20.91\00:37:22.91
and you don't have
answers for those answers,
00:37:22.94\00:37:24.97
it's just--it comes
down to am I humble enough
00:37:25.00\00:37:27.97
to receive the Word
of God for what it is,
00:37:28.00\00:37:30.32
and will I follow it?
00:37:30.35\00:37:32.08
And Romans 7, let me
just hit this last one
00:37:32.11\00:37:34.15
before we go into our topic
00:37:34.18\00:37:35.55
and by the way we're
already into our topic
00:37:35.58\00:37:37.55
whether you got that or not.
00:37:37.58\00:37:40.64
Let me show you what the
real issue is here in the Bible.
00:37:40.67\00:37:44.44
We're in Romans.
00:37:44.47\00:37:46.80
Here is the
issue, Romans Chapter 8.
00:37:46.83\00:37:48.88
This is in fact the real issue.
00:37:48.91\00:37:52.80
If the
commandments of God bother you
00:37:52.83\00:37:55.96
so much so to the point
00:37:55.99\00:37:57.36
where you want to just get
rid of that fourth commandment,
00:37:57.39\00:37:59.12
just obliterate it
because you're sick
00:37:59.15\00:38:01.21
and tired of it and you
prefer another one in its place.
00:38:01.24\00:38:05.14
This is the
issue, Romans 8:6, 7.
00:38:05.17\00:38:08.65
I'm going straight to the issue.
00:38:08.68\00:38:10.80
"For to be
carnally minded is death
00:38:10.83\00:38:14.22
but to be spiritually
minded is life and peace,
00:38:14.25\00:38:19.42
because the carnal
mind is enmity against God,
00:38:19.45\00:38:24.68
for it is not
subject to the law of God
00:38:24.71\00:38:29.21
nor indeed can be."
00:38:29.24\00:38:32.16
It just doesn't
want to have anything
00:38:32.19\00:38:33.64
to do with the law of God.
00:38:33.67\00:38:35.63
And the biggest
issue in the law of God
00:38:35.66\00:38:37.28
is not whether or not Christians
want to commit adultery?
00:38:37.31\00:38:40.60
Although some of
them are adulteress.
00:38:40.63\00:38:42.60
Although some of
them do lie and steal
00:38:42.63\00:38:45.05
and some of them hate so much
00:38:45.08\00:38:46.45
that they might
go ahead and kill.
00:38:46.48\00:38:48.52
I mean, not
given license to that
00:38:48.55\00:38:49.96
but if you hate somebody,
00:38:49.99\00:38:51.36
you have murdered them already,
00:38:51.39\00:38:53.00
though many violate
those principles also
00:38:53.03\00:38:55.57
of those commandments also.
00:38:55.60\00:38:57.25
It is saying here the
biggest issue today in the world
00:38:57.28\00:38:59.79
is Sunday versus Sabbath
00:38:59.82\00:39:02.72
and Christians have
been duped into believing
00:39:02.75\00:39:05.36
that Sunday is the new day.
00:39:05.39\00:39:08.25
And, John, if you
look at society today,
00:39:08.28\00:39:10.42
I think our topic is kind of
taken the natural course here,
00:39:10.45\00:39:13.62
that's why we've
chosen this topic to discuss.
00:39:13.65\00:39:16.24
If you look at society today,
00:39:16.27\00:39:18.87
the entire world has
set itself up economically
00:39:18.90\00:39:22.78
to exalt the first day of
the week, everything about it.
00:39:22.81\00:39:26.08
It's the day
that everybody feels
00:39:26.11\00:39:27.48
it's the last day of the week
00:39:27.51\00:39:28.88
before you go back to work
00:39:28.91\00:39:30.49
so they think if
it is the seventh day.
00:39:30.52\00:39:32.83
It's the day where
all the sales happen.
00:39:32.86\00:39:35.13
It's the day where many
of the car dealerships close.
00:39:35.16\00:39:38.16
It's the day where
many cities and states
00:39:38.19\00:39:40.07
you can't sell alcohol
or you can't buy cigarettes
00:39:40.10\00:39:43.72
or you can't do anything that
00:39:43.75\00:39:46.54
that particular state decides
shouldn't happen on Sunday.
00:39:46.57\00:39:50.79
But on Saturday, it's the
day that's trampled under foot
00:39:50.82\00:39:53.58
and Satan's plan has been
to so stamp under his foot
00:39:53.61\00:39:59.53
everything that
connects us to God
00:39:59.56\00:40:01.89
that he's brought the
world on board to do that.
00:40:01.92\00:40:05.49
And sadly enough he's
brought many Christians onboard
00:40:05.52\00:40:08.75
to trample on the
very word remember.
00:40:08.78\00:40:11.21
Now let's wind up
this very thought here
00:40:11.24\00:40:12.88
and segue into our topic.
00:40:12.91\00:40:14.85
If God says to me,
00:40:14.88\00:40:16.43
remember the
Sabbath day to keep it holy.
00:40:16.46\00:40:19.64
A man says, remember
Sunday to keep it holy.
00:40:19.67\00:40:23.16
I am going to chose God's side.
00:40:23.19\00:40:25.43
If you want to
follow man you do that,
00:40:25.46\00:40:27.96
but I'm going to
chose to follow God.
00:40:27.99\00:40:29.85
That's said
simple. That seems brain.
00:40:29.88\00:40:32.62
That seems like
a no-brainer to me,
00:40:32.65\00:40:35.28
but people would say,
00:40:35.31\00:40:36.68
uh, but it-- No, it
is, it's that simple.
00:40:36.71\00:40:39.20
God says
remember, man says forget.
00:40:39.23\00:40:42.74
Remember this, man
says, God says remember this
00:40:42.77\00:40:45.63
and you chose to
remember what man says
00:40:45.66\00:40:47.67
and to completely
ignore what God says.
00:40:47.70\00:40:49.84
Who's behind
that? That Satan's plan.
00:40:49.87\00:40:51.96
Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:51.99\00:40:53.36
So anyway, we've
talked about a lot of that
00:40:53.39\00:40:55.82
and I think you got the point.
00:40:55.85\00:40:57.41
It's what God's word says.
00:40:57.44\00:40:59.08
It's what the God says
from the very beginning
00:40:59.11\00:41:00.98
to the very end is what really
matters not the convenience,
00:41:01.01\00:41:04.69
nor the tradition of
the first day of the week.
00:41:04.72\00:41:07.56
Now I am sure, I
am positively sure,
00:41:07.59\00:41:11.97
we have said
something here today
00:41:12.00\00:41:13.37
that makes you want to
give us or send us an email.
00:41:13.40\00:41:15.44
That's part of why
we do this program.
00:41:15.47\00:41:17.88
We want to hear from you.
00:41:17.91\00:41:19.28
What do you think about
what we just talked about?
00:41:19.31\00:41:20.68
What do you think
about our feedback on
00:41:20.71\00:41:22.45
whether or not God's Sabbath
00:41:22.48\00:41:24.04
should be honored
above man's tradition?
00:41:24.07\00:41:26.58
What do you think
about Sunday versus Saturday?
00:41:26.61\00:41:29.11
Let us hear what you have to say
00:41:29.14\00:41:30.51
regardless of what
your denomination is,
00:41:30.54\00:41:32.96
send us the emails.
00:41:32.99\00:41:34.36
And here's the email
address, housecalls@3abn.org.
00:41:34.39\00:41:38.41
That's housecalls@3abn.org.
00:41:38.44\00:41:42.26
And thank you so
much for all you do.
00:41:42.29\00:41:44.46
Now, John, our topic today
is the commandments of God.
00:41:44.49\00:41:50.71
There's a folder
that Amazing Facts
00:41:50.74\00:41:53.33
puts out called
"You are responsible."
00:41:53.36\00:41:55.79
Amazing Facts is a
supportive ministry
00:41:55.82\00:41:58.86
of the
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
00:41:58.89\00:42:01.66
but I strongly, my good friend
00:42:01.69\00:42:04.34
Pastor Doug Bachelor is a
President of Amazing Facts
00:42:04.37\00:42:08.50
and this folder
"You Are responsible"
00:42:08.53\00:42:10.70
it's not
something we are offering,
00:42:10.73\00:42:12.10
so don't write us for it,
00:42:12.13\00:42:13.50
but if you go
to amazingfacts.org
00:42:13.53\00:42:15.49
you can get a copy of this one,
00:42:15.52\00:42:16.89
it's called "You
Are responsible."
00:42:16.92\00:42:18.55
Beautiful, beautiful flier
but the reason why we added
00:42:18.58\00:42:23.61
so much passion and tenacity
00:42:23.64\00:42:25.02
to what we were
just talking about is
00:42:25.05\00:42:26.80
because the bottom line is
you are responsible, right?
00:42:26.83\00:42:30.66
Yeah.
00:42:30.69\00:42:32.06
So let's start
with a very simple text.
00:42:32.09\00:42:34.51
John 14:15.
00:42:34.54\00:42:36.76
You know what
that says, right, John?
00:42:36.79\00:42:39.74
You tell me.
00:42:39.77\00:42:41.99
I am not at it right now.
00:42:42.02\00:42:43.39
So you know, I don't have that
memorized specifically by that.
00:42:43.42\00:42:46.75
Well, John 14:15,
00:42:46.78\00:42:48.15
"If you love me,
keep my commandments."
00:42:48.18\00:42:49.75
There we go. Okay.
00:42:49.78\00:42:51.15
So let's get down to the
simple fact, if you love me.
00:42:51.18\00:42:56.13
You know, friends,
it is all about love.
00:42:56.16\00:42:59.24
If we love God then we'll
love His commandments, right?
00:42:59.27\00:43:05.72
And there's several
meanings to that passage too
00:43:05.75\00:43:07.70
because I know we've
used it in different contexts.
00:43:07.73\00:43:10.80
One of them is if
we really love God
00:43:10.83\00:43:12.59
we will keep His commandments.
00:43:12.62\00:43:13.99
Another one is that
we really can't keep
00:43:14.02\00:43:16.44
His commandments
unless we really love God.
00:43:16.47\00:43:18.75
So you see
there's a couple of ways
00:43:18.78\00:43:20.15
to look at that
text specifically.
00:43:20.18\00:43:22.16
So and if the whole passage
00:43:22.19\00:43:24.22
really kind of is an
interesting one to read there
00:43:24.25\00:43:26.26
because it's really out of
nowhere comes this statement,
00:43:26.29\00:43:31.28
"If you love me, keep
my commandments." Right?
00:43:31.31\00:43:34.08
I mean, because if you
look at the rest of it,
00:43:34.11\00:43:35.83
it's not talking
about the commandments.
00:43:35.86\00:43:37.26
It appears that this
is coming out of nowhere,
00:43:37.29\00:43:40.24
but it doesn't.
00:43:40.27\00:43:42.05
Jesus is very much
speaking in context
00:43:42.08\00:43:44.59
and so if we look at that
00:43:44.62\00:43:49.96
John 14:15.
00:43:49.99\00:43:53.85
Notice this here.
00:43:58.48\00:44:01.05
Let's start with verse 12,
00:44:01.08\00:44:04.26
"Most assuredly I say to you,
00:44:04.29\00:44:05.90
he who believes in
Me, the works that I do,
00:44:05.93\00:44:08.66
he will do also and greater
works than these he will do
00:44:08.69\00:44:12.53
because I go to my father.
00:44:12.56\00:44:14.93
And whatever you ask in my name,
00:44:14.96\00:44:17.02
that I will do, that the Father
may be glorified in the Son.
00:44:17.05\00:44:21.85
If you ask Me anything
in My name, I will do it."
00:44:21.88\00:44:24.82
And all of a sudden this verse,
00:44:24.85\00:44:26.71
"If you love me,
keep my commandments."
00:44:26.74\00:44:29.22
And then he goes back to,
00:44:29.25\00:44:30.62
"And I will pray the Father
00:44:30.65\00:44:32.02
and He will give
you another Helper,"
00:44:32.05\00:44:33.42
the subject of the Holy Spirit.
00:44:33.45\00:44:34.82
So the application here,
00:44:34.85\00:44:37.13
the statement here of
Jesus for the Ten Commandments,
00:44:37.16\00:44:40.49
falls in line with
greater works that one will do.
00:44:40.52\00:44:44.96
How we will ask God
and He will respond to us
00:44:44.99\00:44:47.52
and if we obey Him and
love him He will respond to us
00:44:47.55\00:44:50.95
but part of that
relationship is what?
00:44:50.98\00:44:53.48
Keeping the commandments
out of love for Jesus.
00:44:53.51\00:44:57.43
And then how
does God respond to us
00:44:57.46\00:44:59.34
keeping those
commandments out of love?
00:44:59.37\00:45:01.56
He sends us another
helper. That's right.
00:45:01.59\00:45:03.02
That is Holy Spirit.
00:45:03.05\00:45:04.42
So it is in context but it
appears at first not to be.
00:45:04.45\00:45:08.24
But God is
basically, Jesus is saying
00:45:08.27\00:45:10.96
that the commandments are
part of the Christian experience
00:45:10.99\00:45:13.25
right down to the very end.
00:45:13.28\00:45:14.65
And it's amazing to me, John.
00:45:14.68\00:45:16.22
And one of the reasons why
we're talking about this topic
00:45:16.25\00:45:18.40
is that over now
centuries within Christianity
00:45:18.43\00:45:24.50
as it's been diluted
down as you said earlier,
00:45:24.53\00:45:27.24
more and more advocating
00:45:27.27\00:45:28.97
that the Ten Commandments
were done away with.
00:45:29.00\00:45:33.02
They were nailed to
the cross so to speak
00:45:33.05\00:45:35.86
and that's not what, at
least what my Bible says,
00:45:35.89\00:45:38.89
I am reading from the
New King James version.
00:45:38.92\00:45:40.61
I can't find that it
says that there were--
00:45:40.64\00:45:42.70
the Ten Commandments themselves
were nailed to the cross
00:45:42.73\00:45:44.97
as in done away
with but that our--
00:45:45.00\00:45:50.95
well, maybe we
should look at that verse.
00:45:50.98\00:45:52.35
I probably think we'll
probably come up to that later,
00:45:52.38\00:45:53.75
so I won't jump ahead. Okay.
00:45:53.78\00:45:55.52
But the point being
the Ten Commandments
00:45:55.55\00:45:57.77
are absolutely a core
theology of the New Testament
00:45:57.80\00:46:01.44
and part of the
Christian experience.
00:46:01.47\00:46:03.48
You know when
you say to somebody,
00:46:03.51\00:46:06.35
I am convinced you love
me and they will say, "Why?"
00:46:06.38\00:46:09.97
Because I mean you don't have
any problem doing what I ask.
00:46:10.00\00:46:15.16
My wife and I have
been married now 30 years.
00:46:15.19\00:46:18.85
If we ever got to the
place where I said to my wife,
00:46:18.88\00:46:21.08
honey, or she said to me, John.
00:46:21.11\00:46:23.41
You know, I
always call her honey.
00:46:23.44\00:46:25.06
And we have
difficulty now all of a sudden
00:46:25.09\00:46:27.60
after that period
of time to acquiesce
00:46:27.63\00:46:31.61
to a request
that each one makes.
00:46:31.64\00:46:33.35
I remember I am also
a marriage counselor.
00:46:33.38\00:46:35.18
I remember sitting down
once talking to a couple
00:46:35.21\00:46:39.94
and the husband was
making a request to the wife
00:46:39.97\00:46:47.59
that she should not hang around
and this other man so often.
00:46:47.62\00:46:53.63
And she said to me, could you
tell him that is not an issue
00:46:53.66\00:47:00.32
and he's making a big deal out
of me hanging around this guy.
00:47:00.35\00:47:05.56
And what's the problem with him?
00:47:05.59\00:47:07.99
And I said-- she said,
00:47:08.02\00:47:10.15
"Could you give me a reason
why I should I listen to him."
00:47:10.18\00:47:11.69
I said, "It's very
simple, do you love him?
00:47:11.72\00:47:15.45
If you love your
husband and he makes a request
00:47:15.48\00:47:18.01
that he doesn't
want to share you
00:47:18.04\00:47:19.41
with any other man it should--
00:47:19.44\00:47:21.57
that's all of
that he needs to say,
00:47:21.60\00:47:24.06
in order for you to sever
your relationship with any man
00:47:24.09\00:47:26.79
whether it is
platonic or any other way.
00:47:26.82\00:47:29.88
All he has to say is,
00:47:29.91\00:47:31.28
"Honey, I am not
comfortable with you
00:47:31.31\00:47:33.15
hanging around
that guy all the time."
00:47:33.18\00:47:36.94
You don't even
need me to come to me
00:47:36.97\00:47:38.34
as a counsel to figure out
00:47:38.37\00:47:40.21
or to try to get
me to change his mind
00:47:40.24\00:47:42.65
because I am not
going to change his mind.
00:47:42.68\00:47:44.74
He says that you belong to me
00:47:44.77\00:47:46.82
and our love
relationship is the foundation
00:47:46.85\00:47:49.08
upon which our love relationship
has been established
00:47:49.11\00:47:51.46
and I am not sharing
you with anybody else.
00:47:51.49\00:47:54.38
So if we believe that we are
exclusively the property of God,
00:47:54.41\00:47:58.93
if He is exclusively our Lord
00:47:58.96\00:48:02.29
and He makes a request of
us to honor His commandments,
00:48:02.32\00:48:07.33
it is evidence of love.
00:48:07.36\00:48:08.87
Here is the proof that I have,
00:48:08.90\00:48:10.30
look at 1 John 5.
00:48:10.33\00:48:12.79
1 John 5, I want to
read verse 1, 2 and 3.
00:48:12.82\00:48:17.16
1 John 5, verse 1, 2 and 3.
00:48:17.19\00:48:20.78
"Whoever believes
that Jesus is the Christ,"
00:48:20.81\00:48:23.97
now this is the whole point,
00:48:24.00\00:48:25.37
let's go and
make the application.
00:48:25.40\00:48:26.77
Whoever believes that she is
your wife or he is your husband.
00:48:26.80\00:48:30.52
"Whoever believes that Jesus
is the Christ is born of God,
00:48:30.55\00:48:34.45
and everyone who loves Him,
00:48:34.48\00:48:38.59
who begot also loves
Him who is begotten of Him."
00:48:38.62\00:48:43.78
In other words, if you love God,
you're going to love Christ.
00:48:43.81\00:48:47.12
And then verse 2,
00:48:47.15\00:48:48.75
"By this we know that we
love the children of God,
00:48:48.78\00:48:52.83
when we love God and
keep His commandments."
00:48:52.86\00:48:56.12
Verse 3, "For
this is the love of God
00:48:56.15\00:48:59.30
that we keep His commandments
00:48:59.33\00:49:01.64
and His commandments
are not burdensome."
00:49:01.67\00:49:06.53
Says, oh man, it's
such a burden to keep that.
00:49:06.56\00:49:09.52
Well, you know,
a wife or a husband
00:49:09.55\00:49:11.33
will think it's a burden,
00:49:11.36\00:49:12.73
if they made the request
to leave that woman alone
00:49:12.76\00:49:15.48
or leave that man alone if love
was not in the relationship.
00:49:15.51\00:49:18.99
That's right. Well,
and it is the center
00:49:19.02\00:49:21.60
because if you don't have that
love relationship with Jesus
00:49:21.63\00:49:24.25
there's nothing that motivates
you to keep the Ten Commandments
00:49:24.28\00:49:28.02
or to obey Him in any respect.
00:49:28.05\00:49:31.33
Some will say I know
that some try to say,
00:49:31.36\00:49:33.55
well, the commandments
spoken of here in the verse
00:49:33.58\00:49:35.50
you just quoted, John,
is only God's commandments
00:49:35.53\00:49:39.69
through Jesus when
He came to this earth.
00:49:39.72\00:49:41.48
Only the words that
He spoke and He iterated.
00:49:41.51\00:49:43.65
And He did not
reiterate or give authority
00:49:43.68\00:49:48.90
again to the fourth commandment.
00:49:48.93\00:49:50.61
Well, we know that's not true
00:49:50.64\00:49:52.01
because the Sabbath
is mentioned many times.
00:49:52.04\00:49:55.05
So the issue
really here comes down to,
00:49:55.08\00:49:57.76
are we
following God out of love,
00:49:57.79\00:49:59.83
we'll respond to what He says
00:49:59.86\00:50:01.74
or are we really
doing what we want,
00:50:01.77\00:50:03.84
are we defensive
about what we want to do?
00:50:03.87\00:50:07.58
And I know it's a tough thing.
00:50:07.61\00:50:10.57
I don't like being
convicted that I am doing wrong.
00:50:10.60\00:50:15.57
I don't think
any of us like that.
00:50:15.60\00:50:16.97
My first response, reaction is,
00:50:17.00\00:50:18.67
I confess, my first
reaction to every time,
00:50:18.70\00:50:20.46
John, that I am
convicted with something
00:50:20.49\00:50:22.15
that I am wrong is to
defend my wrong position.
00:50:22.18\00:50:25.59
And that is my--
Initially, absolutely.
00:50:25.62\00:50:28.74
Look at politicians today.
00:50:28.77\00:50:30.14
One of the reasons
we have a difficult time
00:50:30.17\00:50:32.30
with the left and
the right coming together
00:50:32.33\00:50:34.43
is because more and
more they are settling
00:50:34.46\00:50:35.88
into their
positions and they continue
00:50:35.91\00:50:37.28
to just say things enough.
00:50:37.31\00:50:39.38
If they say it enough
people will believe it.
00:50:39.41\00:50:41.54
And they are not
coming together and reasoning.
00:50:41.57\00:50:44.99
What did Jesus
say, what did God say?
00:50:45.02\00:50:46.94
"Come let us reason
together." That's right.
00:50:46.97\00:50:50.28
Share with me your defenses.
00:50:50.31\00:50:51.80
Let's talk as He did with Job
00:50:51.83\00:50:54.62
and we will always
find that God's right. Yeah.
00:50:54.65\00:50:57.88
And that we were wrong.
00:50:57.91\00:50:59.29
And so when we talk about the
responsibility of the Christian
00:50:59.32\00:51:05.13
when you read the Bible,
00:51:05.16\00:51:08.65
the longing of
Christ is not that
00:51:08.68\00:51:11.35
He has a people
just calling on His name.
00:51:11.38\00:51:15.25
I just recently spoke
and as I mentioned again,
00:51:15.28\00:51:18.93
I am a marriage counselor.
00:51:18.96\00:51:20.33
I recently spoke to a
couple a little while ago,
00:51:20.36\00:51:25.52
who-- one of them said,
00:51:25.55\00:51:29.73
"I don't really know if my
spouse loves me any longer."
00:51:29.76\00:51:32.60
I said, "Why?"
00:51:32.63\00:51:34.76
Because they are
just-- they don't--
00:51:34.79\00:51:37.42
it's like I'm not
even heard anymore.
00:51:37.45\00:51:39.80
I said what do you mean?
00:51:39.83\00:51:41.20
Well, I mean, in public
they act like they care for me,
00:51:41.23\00:51:45.36
but when we're home its
like I don't even exist.
00:51:45.39\00:51:48.30
I talk and I get no response.
00:51:48.33\00:51:51.62
It's like I am
talking to a wall.
00:51:51.65\00:51:53.66
And then I bring that
to my spouse's attention,
00:51:53.69\00:51:57.01
I am just being
vague intentionally
00:51:57.04\00:51:59.77
and I still get no response,
00:51:59.80\00:52:01.17
it's like they
are not even home.
00:52:01.20\00:52:03.09
It's like I don't even matter
00:52:03.12\00:52:04.66
but in public everybody think
we have a great relationship.
00:52:04.69\00:52:07.59
It's like what's going on there?
00:52:07.62\00:52:10.15
And I said if you
would narrow it down
00:52:10.18\00:52:13.09
what one thing you
would say is a problem?
00:52:13.12\00:52:15.81
I am not heard.
00:52:15.84\00:52:17.21
It's like my
word doesn't matter.
00:52:17.24\00:52:18.93
And when you come down to it
00:52:18.96\00:52:20.80
there are many Christians
that say, "I love the Lord."
00:52:20.83\00:52:23.53
That's their public persona
00:52:23.56\00:52:26.35
but privately in their one
to one relationship with God
00:52:26.38\00:52:29.80
there is this
recalcitrant, internal spirit
00:52:29.83\00:52:32.76
that's battling
against the commandments of God
00:52:32.79\00:52:35.69
and yet they say,
"But I still love Him
00:52:35.72\00:52:38.75
but I don't have to
keep His commandments."
00:52:38.78\00:52:40.64
And then the Apostle Paul--
00:52:40.67\00:52:43.39
Let's look at some of the places
00:52:43.42\00:52:44.79
and I think you
segued just a moment ago
00:52:44.82\00:52:47.34
or you made this point.
00:52:47.37\00:52:48.92
The commandments of God
00:52:48.95\00:52:50.32
or the Sabbath didn't need
to be emphasized over and over
00:52:50.35\00:52:53.27
and over and over
again in the New Testament
00:52:53.30\00:52:55.62
because nobody was
violating the Sabbath.
00:52:55.65\00:52:58.76
You see, they accused
Jesus of violating the Sabbath
00:52:58.79\00:53:02.00
and He never did but the
Sabbath was not an issue.
00:53:02.03\00:53:06.28
It did not become an issue,
00:53:06.31\00:53:08.03
in Christendom until
during the dark ages.
00:53:08.06\00:53:10.39
When Rome began
to try to challenge
00:53:10.42\00:53:12.49
the dictates of Christianity
and injected with traditions.
00:53:12.52\00:53:16.74
So there was no need to
even fight over the Sabbath
00:53:16.77\00:53:18.65
even though it's mentioned
60 times in the New Testament.
00:53:18.68\00:53:20.76
Yeah. And I think also
there's an explaining away
00:53:20.79\00:53:24.64
or misperception about how
Christ handled the Sabbath too
00:53:24.67\00:53:28.33
because some Jews say
that He broke it. Right.
00:53:28.36\00:53:30.95
But the problem
is, is if He broke it
00:53:30.98\00:53:32.35
then He no longer becomes
the Savior and becomes a sinner.
00:53:32.38\00:53:34.61
And we're lost. And we're lost.
00:53:34.64\00:53:36.01
So He could not have broken it.
00:53:36.04\00:53:37.54
What He broke
was their traditions
00:53:37.57\00:53:40.72
and that's a big difference.
00:53:40.75\00:53:42.75
He broke from their traditions
with regard to the Sabbath.
00:53:42.78\00:53:45.94
And I believe some
of those traditions
00:53:45.97\00:53:47.43
have been carried over
into the mindset of those
00:53:47.46\00:53:50.17
who see the
seventh day Sabbath as,
00:53:50.20\00:53:53.18
you know, a Jewish
Sabbath with a lot of rights
00:53:53.21\00:53:55.80
and just difficult
challenges and burdens.
00:53:55.83\00:53:58.42
When that's not at all
what the Sabbath is about.
00:53:58.45\00:54:01.38
The Sabbath is liberating.
00:54:01.41\00:54:02.78
It's about our
relationship with Christ,
00:54:02.81\00:54:04.18
letting Him to do the
heavy work for work for us
00:54:04.21\00:54:06.10
and resting in-- by faith,
00:54:06.13\00:54:07.78
resting in His finished work.
00:54:07.81\00:54:10.10
John, I think one of the
big things that individuals have
00:54:10.13\00:54:14.49
and it just creates a blockage
00:54:14.52\00:54:16.46
is that the Ten
Commandments themselves
00:54:16.49\00:54:20.55
are viewed theologically
in the theological model
00:54:20.58\00:54:25.82
that most and
many Christians have.
00:54:25.85\00:54:27.62
They view theologically
it's something against them.
00:54:27.65\00:54:31.25
Very good point.
00:54:31.28\00:54:32.65
And so when you talk
about keeping the commandments
00:54:32.68\00:54:34.18
they just can't get
their arms around it
00:54:34.21\00:54:35.82
because, no, that's
something that's against us.
00:54:35.85\00:54:39.15
But it's not always
against you and here's why,
00:54:39.18\00:54:43.06
it's against
those that are sinners
00:54:43.09\00:54:45.58
because it condemns
what sinners do. Right.
00:54:45.61\00:54:48.96
It's a transcript
of God's law obviously
00:54:48.99\00:54:53.00
and that when you disobey
it as a sinner it condemns you.
00:54:53.03\00:54:57.91
It drives you to Jesus
who has fulfilled that law
00:54:57.94\00:55:01.56
and has kept it in every point.
00:55:01.59\00:55:03.99
So for someone
who believes in Jesus
00:55:04.02\00:55:06.10
it no longer is
a condemning thing.
00:55:06.13\00:55:08.67
It's a transcript
of God's character
00:55:08.70\00:55:10.57
and what He wants us to be like.
00:55:10.60\00:55:12.44
It's something to be obeyed
00:55:12.47\00:55:13.84
because now we have joy
because Christ has overcome.
00:55:13.87\00:55:16.32
He has kept that
law perfectly for us
00:55:16.35\00:55:18.23
and He gives us that perfection
00:55:18.26\00:55:20.28
that we didn't have
and don't have. Right.
00:55:20.31\00:55:22.64
And so then when
you see it that way
00:55:22.67\00:55:24.15
you see God's law as something
to be embraced and accepted.
00:55:24.18\00:55:28.30
That is the biblical theology
of the Ten Commandments.
00:55:28.33\00:55:32.69
So if this mindset, it
comes from your preacher
00:55:32.72\00:55:34.89
or a teacher or someone that
the Ten Commands is against us,
00:55:34.92\00:55:37.83
it's a curse, it's a burden.
00:55:37.86\00:55:40.11
No, it's only
that way to the sinner
00:55:40.14\00:55:41.90
who doesn't have
Christ. That's right.
00:55:41.93\00:55:43.82
But to the one who has Jesus,
00:55:43.85\00:55:45.63
who has kept those commandments
00:55:45.66\00:55:47.03
and gives you His perfect
life it is a wonderful thing,
00:55:47.06\00:55:50.08
it's liberating,
even to the point
00:55:50.11\00:55:51.48
where Paul calls
it the law of liberty.
00:55:51.51\00:55:54.18
That's right.
00:55:54.21\00:55:55.58
Matter of fact, James
calls it the law of liberty.
00:55:55.61\00:55:57.21
James, sorry.
00:55:57.24\00:55:58.61
And so-- but you have here--
00:55:58.64\00:56:00.42
and I want to hit this
commandment one more time,
00:56:00.45\00:56:02.54
1 John 5:3,
00:56:02.57\00:56:03.94
"For this is the love of God,
that we keep His commandments.
00:56:03.97\00:56:07.59
And His commandments
are not burdensome."
00:56:07.62\00:56:09.91
Anytime somebody says to you,
00:56:09.94\00:56:11.50
"Oh, you're under the
burden of the old law."
00:56:11.53\00:56:14.19
No, the law of
God is not a burden.
00:56:14.22\00:56:17.00
They say, oh,
you're under works.
00:56:17.03\00:56:18.82
Well, you know, often
times when you mention
00:56:18.85\00:56:20.56
the Sabbath people say,
00:56:20.59\00:56:21.96
"Ah, you believe in
salvation by works."
00:56:21.99\00:56:24.21
But if you read the
Sabbath commandment it says,
00:56:24.24\00:56:26.51
"Thou shall not do any works,
it's a freedom from work."
00:56:26.54\00:56:31.28
That's right.
00:56:31.31\00:56:32.92
It's not a bond.
00:56:32.95\00:56:34.32
It's not a binding to work.
00:56:34.35\00:56:35.73
It's a freedom from work.
00:56:35.76\00:56:37.60
Thou shall not do any work.
00:56:37.63\00:56:39.00
And let's make it plain
here, doing things to be saved.
00:56:39.03\00:56:44.40
In other words, you are
not saved yet through Christ,
00:56:44.43\00:56:47.29
you are doing things to be
saved is legalism. Exactly.
00:56:47.32\00:56:51.13
Once you are saved doing
things and working for God,
00:56:51.16\00:56:55.32
doing good deeds
and following His plan
00:56:55.35\00:56:57.99
for your life to obey Him,
00:56:58.02\00:57:00.70
out of love becomes a
response of thanksgiving
00:57:00.73\00:57:06.46
and just your salvation
experience with Christ.
00:57:06.49\00:57:09.39
It's only legalism if you're
trying to do it to be saved
00:57:09.42\00:57:11.64
but once you are
saved doing those things,
00:57:11.67\00:57:14.21
that's not
legalism. That's right.
00:57:14.24\00:57:15.61
That's a
response of love to God.
00:57:15.64\00:57:17.01
Matter of fact I think
that point is so well taken.
00:57:17.04\00:57:19.37
The next program
we do on this topic
00:57:19.40\00:57:21.61
we're going to begin
it from the prospective
00:57:21.64\00:57:23.20
of why you do what you do?
00:57:23.23\00:57:25.44
But, friends,
here at House Calls
00:57:25.47\00:57:26.84
the call is
coming to you one day,
00:57:26.87\00:57:28.36
if you accept Christ out of love
00:57:28.39\00:57:30.87
you will have a
blessing as you follow Him.
00:57:30.90\00:57:33.22
God bless you.
00:57:33.25\00:57:34.62