Oh, we have a
long history in leading
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in obedience to the laws
or commandments a.k.a. he put,
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given to us by God in the Bible.
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And this is the statement.
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The New Testament in
this the pastors response,
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"The New Testament however,
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living in grace through
the blood of Jesus Christ
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for redemption of
sins is our model.
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This does not mean we
disregard the Old Testament.
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However, the Old
Testament was the law
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which does not apply to us now
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as far as our
eternity is concerned.
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God gave us all 66 books
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and they all agree
without exception."
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Now normally, I don't read
all this but it's important
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because it gets to
the crux of the matter.
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"God makes his will
very clear in his word
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as far as how we
should be born again.
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How we are to
be behave ourselves
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both in public and private
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and in the business
world and in our homes.
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And born again
Christians" this is the example,
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"a born again
Christians now celebrate
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corporate worship and
praise and learning on Sunday.
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Because, Sunday is the day
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on which Christ
arose from the grave.
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We commemorate
that significant event
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by meeting on Sunday.
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And yes, in those days
Sunday began at 6 p.m. Saturday
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for the good, further proof
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that Jesus is not crucified
on manmade Good Friday.
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Another fact filled
sermon straight from God's word.
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So in essence he is
saying we keep Sunday
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in honor of the
resurrection of Christ.
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That's the
reason in essence saying
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but he made statement he says,
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the Old Testament was the
law which does not apply to us
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as far as our eternal as far
as our eternity is concerned.
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Well, John, I
read that long question
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if I want to lead him by
saying this when Jesus said,
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"Man shall not
live by bread alone
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but by every word that
proceeds from the mouth of God."
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He wasn't talking
about the New Testament,
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because there
was no New Testament
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when Jesus made that statement.
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It was the Old Testament.
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So when you say the statement
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about salvation does not
apply to the Old Testament.
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Jesus himself
made that connection
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long before there
was a New Testament.
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So right away that
point is now in void.
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The other part
that was pointed out
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in showing you the connection
between the old and new,
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there is no difference
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when it comes to
the commandments of God.
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The commandments of God
however cannot be ignored
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if we claim
ourselves to be saved.
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It is impossible.
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Matter of fact,
let's go the New Testament.
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Go with me to Romans.
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Romans 13, I want you
to see the New Testament
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as it relates to
the commandments of God.
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And as you
listen to the question
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you also understand
that the issue there
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was not so much just
the commandments of God,
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the issue
really was the Sabbath.
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Am I correct John? That's right.
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That was the issue
that was brought out.
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The Sabbath was the focal point
that he actually addressed.
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And Romans 13
starting with verse 8.
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Romans 13:8.
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And Paul the Apostle
says, "Owe no one anything,
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except to love one another."
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Now we've heard that.
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We've heard Jesus say
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"Love the Lord
with all your heart.
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Love your neighbor as yourself."
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The law of the God
is encompassed in love.
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The whole principle on
which it hangs is love.
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He goes on.
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"For he who loves
another has fulfilled the law."
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Now I want to
say something here,
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because, my mind
is clicking right now.
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When Jesus says,
in Mathew 5:17-19
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"That He fulfilled the law."
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He didn't do away with it.
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Anymore than Paul says,
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"When you love
somebody you fulfill the law."
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You do away with
it, because we fulfill--
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Fulfill doesn't do away.
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Exactly, when we love somebody
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fulfill doesn't mean
we do away with the law,
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it means we honor it.
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We are
fulfilling His requirements.
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That's what he in essence says,
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we're fulfilling the
requirements of the law,
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not fulfilling by
getting rid of it. Right.
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You see, I have not come
to destroy, but to fulfill.
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And he says by honoring
us each other out of love
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we do the same thing.
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We fulfill the law.
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So Jesus didn't do away with it.
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And Paul has not,
going in contrast to Christ.
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But look at verse 9
and notice what he says.
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"For the commandments,
'you shall not commit adultery,
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you shall not
murder, you shall not steal,
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you shall not
bare false witness,
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you shall not covet,'
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and if there is
any other commandments
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are all summed up
in this saying namely
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you shall love your
neighbor as yourself.
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Love does no harm to a neighbor,
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therefore love is the
fulfillment of the law."
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So when we say New
Testament Christians as his--
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I didn't say we.
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Did I say we?
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When the statement is made that
the Old Testament is all law.
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That's not the truth.
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Just the first five books
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encompass the Law of Moses
which is the ceremonial laws,
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the Pentateuch had
more than ceremonial laws
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by the way, health
laws, laws commercial laws.
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When we say that the
Old Testament is a law.
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That is not the case.
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Because the Old
Testament is the books of law,
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you have the prophets and kings.
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You have the books of poetry.
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You have the
large book of Psalms
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then you have the Minor
Prophets books of prophecy.
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That's not all the law.
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But in a nutshell what is
actually the focal point is,
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he made a statement that
is not supported by scripture.
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We actually keep Sunday now
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because of the
resurrection of Christ.
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I'm gonna and break the
monotony of my voice alone.
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Let me have you chiming on that
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and I'll come back
and make some points.
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Quote some
statements here, John.
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Well, I mean, the first thing
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I think of is Jesus'
own words where He says.
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He is referring to the
law and the prophets. Right.
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All the Old Testament
books were considered the law
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and the prophets
because the Law of Moses
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and then the
prophets that came after that.
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That's right.
And their writings.
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And so even this doesn't
really line up with that.
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I think what he is
saying there with the law,
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the Old Testament is the law
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is this common misconception
of the dispensation theory
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which is-- the
Old Testament is law,
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the New
Testament is grace. Right.
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And so they encompass
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all of Old Testament
writings with this era of law.
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And actually, it
goes far as to teach that
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they were saved by
keeping the law back then
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and now we're saved by grace.
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Where if you look at
the scripture clearly
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over and over again
especially Hebrews 11,
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by faith, by faith, by faith
for Abraham and Sarah and Moses.
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And all these great patriarchs
and matriarchs of the Bible
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who were practicing
their faith in Christ
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and through His
grace were saved,
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so even that doesn't work.
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And so this dispensation theory,
John, really is kind of--
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it's everywhere
in these doctrines
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that churches are teaching today
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and this where
this individual is at.
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And I understand it's
very hard to come out of that.
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Once you have a
system in your head
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of how something works,
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it is hard to see
anything else. Right.
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We can argue till
we're blue in the face
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what is right and what's
wrong, but it is difficult.
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I--we have to acknowledge that.
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But what we are
saying here with this issue
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then it gets into the Sabbath
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and we honor in recognition
of the resurrection of Christ.
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There is nothing that points
to the resurrection at all.
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In fact, Jesus
Himself rested in the grave
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prior to resurrection day
on the first day of the week.
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Right. And as you go
into the Book of Acts
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you find the early
church continuing to meet
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on the Sabbath
both Jews and Greeks.
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And Gentiles.
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Yeah and so this
ideology, this whole package
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that's been put
together by many churches today
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is something
that is so interwoven
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and interconnected
that it's hard to talk about
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what we're talking
about and see it. Right
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But that's what
God's spirit is all about.
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That's what Bible
study is all about
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to confirm what we're hearing
as to whether or not it is true.
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First thing they did
after Paul preached to them,
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they went back-- it says,
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they went back to their Bibles
00:23:16.16\00:23:17.90
to see if what he
was saying was true.
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And the reason they did that is
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because they heard that
Jesus was not the Messiah.
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They heard all
these other things.
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Now they were
hearing something new
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and they had to go
to the Bible to find out
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if it was true
what Paul was saying
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and they find very
much that it was true.
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And so we encourage
you to study your Bibles,
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it's not what the pastor says.
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And even for pastors it's
not what your colleague says
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it's what the word or
what the scripture say.
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And we need to get back
to scripture for our faith,
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our rule of faith and practice.
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Well, it almost makes it
sound like the New Testament.
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If we hadn't had
the New Testament,
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we wouldn't
really have salvation.
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Because, it
says, the Old Testament
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does not apply to us as far
as our eternity is concerned.
00:23:57.33\00:24:01.05
Well, when you make
that kind of statement,
00:24:01.08\00:24:04.10
you really
shouldn't just sell Bibles
00:24:04.13\00:24:05.82
that only have
the New Testament.
00:24:05.85\00:24:07.46
If you don't need
the Old Testament,
00:24:07.49\00:24:09.07
it--this does not mean that
we disregard the Old Testament.
00:24:09.10\00:24:12.21
So you see how you
have to dance through that.
00:24:12.24\00:24:14.20
This does not mean
that we disregard it,
00:24:14.23\00:24:16.03
but we don't really need
the Old Testament for salvation.
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It doesn't really
apply for salvation.
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Yes, God gave us all 66 books
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and they all
agree without exception.
00:24:21.87\00:24:23.76
And but however that you
have to dance through that
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and that's exactly what he
is trying to do, he is dancing.
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Well, not only that. Yeah.
00:24:29.69\00:24:31.06
You have a problem
00:24:31.09\00:24:32.46
with the New
Testament and Commandments.
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Because keeping
the Commandments of God
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is what matters.
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Right. Says the New Testament.
00:24:36.69\00:24:38.06
If we love-- 1 Corinthians 7:19.
00:24:38.09\00:24:39.46
Yeah, "If we love God,
we keep His commandments."
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That's right.
00:24:41.91\00:24:43.28
All these things
in the New Testament,
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just-- how we say.
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You know, what is the definition
of a politician is, John?
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Let's just kind of step
back for a minute. Okay.
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Politicians are
very good at one thing.
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You become a good politician
00:24:55.20\00:24:56.57
when you know that if you
say something enough times,
00:24:56.60\00:24:59.88
whether it's right or wrong...
00:24:59.91\00:25:01.28
It's a good one.
People accept it.
00:25:01.31\00:25:03.19
Surely. They
start to believe it.
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You're a good politician
if you can make that happen.
00:25:05.03\00:25:08.28
And to a great degree--
even in the Christian world
00:25:08.31\00:25:11.92
we feel if we say
something enough times,
00:25:11.95\00:25:15.01
then people will believe it.
00:25:15.04\00:25:16.41
And it's happened,
its working. Right.
00:25:16.44\00:25:17.81
Just like it
works for politicians,
00:25:17.84\00:25:19.50
it's working for
the Christian world.
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We need to get out of this
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if you say it enough
times it will just make it true
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and get to the fact of
what the Bible really is saying.
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I've heard over
and over again, John.
00:25:29.00\00:25:30.76
You've and I've heard this
we shouldn't judge each other
00:25:30.79\00:25:33.22
for the day that we worship
and they quote Romans 14.
00:25:33.25\00:25:37.36
Right, don't judge.
00:25:37.39\00:25:38.76
The Sabbath is
not even in Romans 14,
00:25:38.79\00:25:40.41
where you're getting that from?
00:25:40.44\00:25:41.81
It's like if we
say it enough times
00:25:41.84\00:25:43.45
all of the sudden it will work.
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But it's not gonna
work because Romans 14
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isn't about the Sabbath. Right.
00:25:47.75\00:25:50.05
It's about fasting
and ceremonial offerings
00:25:50.08\00:25:52.97
and what we eat and
drink not offering food,
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eating and drinking
foods offered to idols.
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It's all these things but not
about the seventh-day Sabbath.
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No, not at all.
00:26:00.26\00:26:01.63
Yet they quote it
over and over again
00:26:01.66\00:26:03.03
and that's a political
tactic that we find today
00:26:03.06\00:26:06.05
in politics of
America and around the world.
00:26:06.08\00:26:09.01
If you say something enough
times people will believe it.
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I know, that's true, John.
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Because you know,
if you think about it
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this is not just
a modern day thing
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but it is so prevalent
today it's just sickening.
00:26:17.26\00:26:20.62
Just imagine people
saying for centuries
00:26:20.65\00:26:24.95
Sunday is the new
day, Sunday is the new day,
00:26:24.98\00:26:27.32
Sunday is the new
day, Sunday is the new day.
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It's just like saying,
we die and go to heaven,
00:26:30.08\00:26:32.01
we die and go to heaven.
00:26:32.04\00:26:33.41
So you hear people on T.V.
00:26:33.44\00:26:35.61
they are in the
better place now.
00:26:35.64\00:26:37.07
They're in heaven now.
00:26:37.10\00:26:38.47
They're looking
down from heaven now.
00:26:38.50\00:26:40.30
And there is not a
single verse in God's word
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where you'll see
one evidence of a person
00:26:44.87\00:26:48.26
that died is
looking down from heaven.
00:26:48.29\00:26:50.57
I would at least give
some plausibility to it
00:26:50.60\00:26:53.43
if there was one text that said,
00:26:53.46\00:26:55.22
"They're looking down
from heaven right now,
00:26:55.25\00:26:57.49
since they died and went there."
00:26:57.52\00:26:59.82
And there is not one.
00:26:59.85\00:27:01.22
And as a politician does,
they launch of if something
00:27:01.25\00:27:04.36
that's only
appears to be true. Right.
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Which is they used the
parable of the rich man Lazarus.
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And they use absence
00:27:09.17\00:27:10.54
from the body is
present with the Lord.
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Those two, that's it. Right.
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And they keep
repeating those as the evidence
00:27:13.47\00:27:16.39
but they are
ignoring hundreds of verses
00:27:16.42\00:27:19.62
through our
scripture that say that
00:27:19.65\00:27:21.04
when you die you
rest in the grave
00:27:21.07\00:27:23.06
until the second coming of Jesus
00:27:23.09\00:27:24.77
and the resurrection. Right.
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That is the model that
the Bible provides for us
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for those who
have rested in Christ.
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And then the statement is,
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well don't tell me
I'm wrong that offends me.
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Well, you know, why
would you be offended
00:27:35.24\00:27:36.61
if I'm trying to give you
00:27:36.64\00:27:38.01
the direction of
God's word that's like.
00:27:38.04\00:27:39.96
Why would somebody who
really wants directions
00:27:39.99\00:27:42.31
to get to a specific
location get offended
00:27:42.34\00:27:45.04
when they say well sir,
the direction say go--go left
00:27:45.07\00:27:49.06
and make two right
turns then the last left
00:27:49.09\00:27:50.80
and then you'll
find your direction.
00:27:50.83\00:27:52.89
The word of God
is for instruction
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and when people get offended
by, it's a deeper issue.
00:27:55.66\00:27:59.32
It's the human pride of
00:27:59.35\00:28:01.45
I don't want to
be even thought of
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or labeled as being
incorrect in my views.
00:28:04.33\00:28:07.21
And that's somehow this
human pride issue has to die
00:28:07.24\00:28:10.17
in order for many people to come
to the knowledge of the truth.
00:28:10.20\00:28:13.03
We sometimes don't like to
date this program too much.
00:28:13.06\00:28:18.57
But recently-- Right.
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We've heard of this great speech
00:28:20.12\00:28:24.04
that was given at the
National Day of Prayer.
00:28:24.07\00:28:27.26
By Dr Ben Carson and he talked
about political correctness.
00:28:27.29\00:28:31.23
One of his statements was,
00:28:31.26\00:28:33.07
we have to move past
this point of being offended
00:28:33.10\00:28:35.77
by what something someone says.
00:28:35.80\00:28:38.41
Because we've become so enamored
00:28:38.44\00:28:41.09
with political correctness
and not being offensive
00:28:41.12\00:28:43.24
to anybody that we're
not having dialog anymore.
00:28:43.27\00:28:46.69
We're actually not trying
to solve problems and issues
00:28:46.72\00:28:48.98
because you might offend me.
00:28:49.01\00:28:50.49
Right. And
dialog is not happening.
00:28:50.52\00:28:52.77
No. And I would say even within
00:28:52.80\00:28:54.47
the Christian community
the same thing is going on.
00:28:54.50\00:28:56.23
Now Christians say
they love his speech.
00:28:56.26\00:28:59.77
They love how
we need to get back
00:28:59.80\00:29:01.40
to solving
problems and solving issues
00:29:01.43\00:29:03.32
and really
talking about those issues
00:29:03.35\00:29:04.76
amongst both
parties in our country.
00:29:04.79\00:29:07.81
But let me say, there
are people that disagree
00:29:07.84\00:29:10.07
on both sides of some issues
00:29:10.10\00:29:11.47
within scripture
amongst Christians.
00:29:11.50\00:29:14.74
Yet we can't--they
don't want to talk about it.
00:29:14.77\00:29:16.14
We can't tolerate, it's
not-you're offending me,
00:29:16.17\00:29:18.35
you're judging me.
00:29:18.38\00:29:20.12
I mean, a forum here
00:29:20.15\00:29:21.95
that we're
talking a little bit about
00:29:21.98\00:29:24.83
Bible questions and things
00:29:24.86\00:29:26.23
and any time you
type something in there
00:29:26.26\00:29:28.70
that goes against with
someone else's beliefs,
00:29:28.73\00:29:31.74
they say you're judging.
00:29:31.77\00:29:34.10
And you know, I tried to post
in there, no I'm not judging.
00:29:34.13\00:29:37.81
I'm judging you would be,
00:29:37.84\00:29:39.84
I'm judging
whether you're saved or not
00:29:39.87\00:29:41.86
what your eternal salvation is.
00:29:41.89\00:29:43.52
And that's not what I'm doing.
00:29:43.55\00:29:45.18
We're called in scripture
to discern right from wrong.
00:29:45.21\00:29:47.89
The judging I'm
doing is discernment.
00:29:47.92\00:29:49.85
We need to discern from
scripture whether or not
00:29:49.88\00:29:51.97
what we're living by
is right or wrong. Right.
00:29:52.00\00:29:54.61
If that's offensive to you
00:29:54.64\00:29:56.01
you're never
going to get to a point
00:29:56.04\00:29:57.41
where you're
looking and finding truth.
00:29:57.44\00:29:59.93
You've got to agree to
be offended to some degree
00:29:59.96\00:30:03.09
to be declared a sinner
in need of Christ. Right.
00:30:03.12\00:30:06.15
If I was offended by
being called a sinner,
00:30:06.18\00:30:08.83
I would never find
Jesus. And now you see what--
00:30:08.86\00:30:12.21
Jesus you're
calling me a sinner,
00:30:12.24\00:30:13.78
who you call me a sinner.
00:30:13.81\00:30:15.18
I'm never gonna get to that step
00:30:15.21\00:30:16.58
where I can take
my faith put in Christ
00:30:16.61\00:30:19.28
and move beyond myself
the sinner into trusting him.
00:30:19.31\00:30:23.03
Now you see what Paul--
00:30:23.06\00:30:24.43
this is your
friends it seems strange
00:30:24.46\00:30:26.46
it almost sounds like
its new and contemporary
00:30:26.49\00:30:28.57
but it's really
old because Paul says
00:30:28.60\00:30:30.89
"Have I become your enemy
because I tell you the truth."
00:30:30.92\00:30:35.69
See-- Good statement.
00:30:35.72\00:30:37.09
See, when he came and
stood before a gripper
00:30:37.12\00:30:39.53
and he was in the judgment hall
00:30:39.56\00:30:40.93
and stood before feistiest
00:30:40.96\00:30:42.86
all this men
have the same problem.
00:30:42.89\00:30:46.15
He said--a gripper said, oh wait
00:30:46.18\00:30:47.78
you've almost persuaded me
00:30:47.81\00:30:49.78
but I'd call you at
a more convenient time.
00:30:49.81\00:30:53.80
And feistiest these men
were offended by the truth,
00:30:53.83\00:30:56.65
that's why they
decided to persecute Paul.
00:30:56.68\00:30:58.92
The same thing
today. What is the issue?
00:30:58.95\00:31:01.42
The issue is the human heart.
00:31:01.45\00:31:03.30
The carnal mind is
enmity against the law of God.
00:31:03.33\00:31:06.67
It is not
subject to the law of God
00:31:06.70\00:31:09.49
neither it can it be
00:31:09.52\00:31:10.89
and I'll give that
text in just a moment.
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But we need a
transition-- Yes, we do.
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I'll tell you,
if you're in Christ
00:31:14.86\00:31:16.33
these things don't offend you.
00:31:16.36\00:31:17.84
And somebody may say,
00:31:17.87\00:31:19.24
but there are lots of Christians
00:31:19.27\00:31:20.64
that are in
Christ that are offended.
00:31:20.67\00:31:22.50
Oh, wait a minute you may
feel that you're in Christ
00:31:22.53\00:31:25.46
but you cannot be.
00:31:25.49\00:31:27.34
You cannot be offended.
00:31:27.37\00:31:29.45
I think in Psalms 115, verse
00:31:29.48\00:31:32.34
I'll get the text in
a moment--Psalms 165.
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Psalms 119:165?
00:31:35.34\00:31:38.56
Psalms 119:165,
00:31:38.59\00:31:40.99
"Great peace have
they that love thy law
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and nothing shall offend them."
00:31:43.81\00:31:47.05
Said it. Yes.
00:31:47.08\00:31:48.58
Psalms 119:165
00:31:48.61\00:31:52.75
"Great peace have
they that love thy law
00:31:52.78\00:31:54.84
and nothing"
nothing "shall offend them."
00:31:54.87\00:31:59.00
If you love the law of God
00:31:59.03\00:32:00.40
you don't have any
reason to even be offended
00:32:00.43\00:32:02.27
but you will be
offended if I bring it up
00:32:02.30\00:32:04.84
and you don't love it.
00:32:04.87\00:32:06.24
Right. Okay.
00:32:06.27\00:32:08.01
Well, I know we've kind
of open a can or worms there,
00:32:08.04\00:32:10.52
but that's what we do
here at "House Calls."
00:32:10.55\00:32:11.95
We don't believe in
talking to Christians
00:32:11.98\00:32:14.76
that are made of marshmallows.
00:32:14.79\00:32:16.16
If you want to be a strong
soldier in the army of Christ
00:32:16.19\00:32:19.20
this is the program for you.
00:32:19.23\00:32:20.65
If you want to be a
marshmallow Christian,
00:32:20.68\00:32:22.19
this program will melt you
00:32:22.22\00:32:23.82
and you'll liquefy
somewhere in the room
00:32:23.85\00:32:27.04
because we believe in
handling the truth of God.
00:32:27.07\00:32:29.59
Hopefully not offensively but
we do believe in handling it,
00:32:29.62\00:32:32.28
because we love the Lord
00:32:32.31\00:32:33.72
and we want His people
to understand all the truth.
00:32:33.75\00:32:36.30
Well if you have
any Bible questions
00:32:36.33\00:32:37.74
you like to send to us.
00:32:37.77\00:32:39.55
If we've said
something that may be opened,
00:32:39.58\00:32:41.93
opened another thought to you
send it to housecalls@3abn.org
00:32:41.96\00:32:45.96
that's housecalls@3abn.org.
00:32:45.99\00:32:49.86
And we thank you
so much for all you do
00:32:49.89\00:32:51.64
for this network
and for this program.
00:32:51.67\00:32:54.23
John, lead us into
our topic for today.
00:32:54.26\00:32:58.45
In Christ we've used that term
several times already today.
00:32:58.48\00:33:01.80
In Christ, what does
that mean that be in Christ?
00:33:01.83\00:33:04.75
We want to cover this topic.
00:33:04.78\00:33:06.60
We want to handle
this topic very carefully
00:33:06.63\00:33:09.53
but at the same
time we recognize that
00:33:09.56\00:33:11.01
there're so
common misconceptions
00:33:11.04\00:33:13.09
about what salvation,
00:33:13.12\00:33:14.49
the word salvation
really means out there.
00:33:14.52\00:33:17.47
And of course
that term in Christ
00:33:17.50\00:33:19.62
if you just type
in any kind of Bible
00:33:19.65\00:33:22.18
online Bible source program
and I couldn't code in so
00:33:22.21\00:33:24.85
or online program and
typed "in Christ" with quotes,
00:33:24.88\00:33:28.42
you'll find a number of times
00:33:28.45\00:33:31.36
this specific phrase
appears in the New Testament.
00:33:31.39\00:33:34.49
In Christ, in Christ, in Christ.
00:33:34.52\00:33:36.38
It's almost like
Paul was obsessed, John,
00:33:36.41\00:33:39.89
with being in Christ and he was
00:33:39.92\00:33:43.32
because Christ is
every thing to the Christian.
00:33:43.35\00:33:47.05
Somehow I think when we talk,
00:33:47.08\00:33:48.57
when people hear us talk
about the law and the Sabbath,
00:33:48.60\00:33:51.88
they hear out of
the context of Christ,
00:33:51.91\00:33:54.85
but what we're really saying is
00:33:54.88\00:33:56.60
when you're in Christ
you also have His law.
00:33:56.63\00:33:59.72
And so it's not about law,
00:33:59.75\00:34:01.33
it's about the law that
of Christ and who Christ is.
00:34:01.36\00:34:05.79
And He was the
great giver of that law,
00:34:05.82\00:34:08.21
way back on Mount Sinai.
00:34:08.24\00:34:10.03
In fact, John, there
is-- as I was doing some study
00:34:10.06\00:34:13.11
it was really a powerful thing.
00:34:13.14\00:34:15.98
The burning bush. Okay.
00:34:16.01\00:34:18.49
Moses met at the burning
bush, the I am. That's right.
00:34:18.52\00:34:21.84
And when we said
who may I have to tell
00:34:21.87\00:34:24.06
send me to deliver Israel. I am.
00:34:24.09\00:34:28.10
Jesus comes--New Testament
and He says, I am. Right.
00:34:28.13\00:34:32.47
Jesus was at the
burning bush. That's right.
00:34:32.50\00:34:35.15
That burning bush was
at Sinai. That's right.
00:34:35.18\00:34:38.18
Later, the very place
that God brought Moses
00:34:38.21\00:34:40.87
and the Israelites
back to give the law.
00:34:40.90\00:34:43.95
Who gave the law on Mt. Sinai?
00:34:43.98\00:34:45.65
Jesus. That's right.
00:34:45.68\00:34:47.05
So if Jesus
says, if you love Me,
00:34:47.08\00:34:48.55
keep My commandments.
00:34:48.58\00:34:50.42
There is a
literalness to my. Right.
00:34:50.45\00:34:53.00
He actually did
give them on Mt. Sinai.
00:34:53.03\00:34:55.57
So we say, well, I'm in Christ.
00:34:55.60\00:34:57.24
I believe in Christ and He
is the embodiment of the law.
00:34:57.27\00:35:00.00
Yet, you
disregard the Old Testament,
00:35:00.03\00:35:01.80
the very law He
gave and He wrote
00:35:01.83\00:35:03.32
and stoned with His own finger.
00:35:03.35\00:35:05.00
There is a disconnection
there. That's right.
00:35:05.03\00:35:06.93
So we are saying is
when someone is in Christ,
00:35:06.96\00:35:09.27
when Paul is talking
about being in Christ,
00:35:09.30\00:35:11.31
there is more that just saying
Jesus is everything to me.
00:35:11.34\00:35:15.65
We need to find
out what Jesus teaches?
00:35:15.68\00:35:18.18
The way He wants us to live?
00:35:18.21\00:35:20.03
How He wants us to act?
00:35:20.06\00:35:21.94
All these things are what we do
00:35:21.97\00:35:23.98
as in our relationship
with Christ--being in Christ.
00:35:24.01\00:35:27.96
And so we want to
talk about that term
00:35:27.99\00:35:29.84
and magnify the in
Christ motive here today.
00:35:29.87\00:35:33.63
That's right.
00:35:33.66\00:35:35.03
By the way when John
suggested that you do
00:35:35.06\00:35:37.95
a search in the New Testament
on the phrase in Christ
00:35:37.98\00:35:42.51
there're in the New King
James Version 85 references, 85.
00:35:42.54\00:35:48.86
There are more
references to "in Christ"
00:35:48.89\00:35:52.07
than they are to the
word "Sabbath" which is 60.
00:35:52.10\00:35:56.62
So you find 85 times
and the question this day
00:35:56.65\00:35:59.99
when you made and I like that.
00:36:00.02\00:36:01.39
Paul was obsessed with
the statement being in Christ.
00:36:01.42\00:36:04.22
Hey, we all should
be obsessed with that
00:36:04.25\00:36:05.77
because if we are not in
Christ we are in trouble.
00:36:05.80\00:36:08.31
Did you get that?
00:36:08.34\00:36:09.71
If we are not in
Christ we are in trouble.
00:36:09.74\00:36:11.73
That's right. Can
only be one or the other.
00:36:11.76\00:36:13.80
So let's start
with the text, John,
00:36:13.83\00:36:17.17
that really is I think
about it is the foundation text.
00:36:17.20\00:36:21.34
This text embodies salvation
00:36:21.37\00:36:24.18
in the context of
the in Christ motive.
00:36:24.21\00:36:27.60
We use that phrase
motive, for that word motive.
00:36:27.63\00:36:30.63
First let's go to
2 Corinthians 5:17.
00:36:30.66\00:36:32.92
Why don't we
begin with that one?
00:36:32.95\00:36:34.35
Yeah, it says, "Therefore,
if anyone is in Christ,
00:36:34.38\00:36:37.67
he is a new creation,
old things have passed away,
00:36:37.70\00:36:41.65
behold, all
things have become new."
00:36:41.68\00:36:45.99
Powerful-- Right.
00:36:46.02\00:36:47.40
Because that is
how we are made new.
00:36:47.43\00:36:50.87
Not because, we are new
00:36:50.90\00:36:52.27
but because Christ
is new in everyway.
00:36:52.30\00:36:56.31
To understand that
in a practical sense
00:36:56.34\00:36:59.16
if you put, if
you go to the store
00:36:59.19\00:37:02.86
and each of the team
players that play baseball--
00:37:02.89\00:37:06.38
I'm in a sports mind today
I don't know what happened.
00:37:06.41\00:37:09.09
And they all buy
gloves baseballs gloves.
00:37:09.12\00:37:12.54
You couldn't really tell whether
a white guy has on a glove,
00:37:12.57\00:37:15.86
a black guy has on a glove
00:37:15.89\00:37:17.82
and an Asian guy has on a glove.
00:37:17.85\00:37:19.22
You couldn't tell because
his hand is in the glove.
00:37:19.25\00:37:21.73
What you see is the glove,
so therefore, you'll say, wow.
00:37:21.76\00:37:26.68
Your hand looks
different than it was before.
00:37:26.71\00:37:30.26
And he'll say, well
actually the only difference is
00:37:30.29\00:37:32.59
it's covered with this glove.
00:37:32.62\00:37:34.44
Well, the reason why we
appear different to the world is
00:37:34.47\00:37:37.51
because when we are in
Christ we are new creations.
00:37:37.54\00:37:41.78
Well, that's a new
idea what happened?
00:37:41.81\00:37:43.50
What's that
called? It's a glove.
00:37:43.53\00:37:45.72
Whether it a
catchers glove the bigger.
00:37:45.75\00:37:47.86
Whether it's an out fielders
glove with a large webbing,
00:37:47.89\00:37:50.56
whether it's a first base
glove with a curve on the side
00:37:50.59\00:37:53.20
or whether it's a batting glove
00:37:53.23\00:37:54.60
that just simply is
slipped on to keep the hand
00:37:54.63\00:37:56.87
from being
burned or from sliding.
00:37:56.90\00:37:59.03
Any time you're in something
00:37:59.06\00:38:00.70
what you were
before does not appear.
00:38:00.73\00:38:03.35
And so when we are in Christ
00:38:03.38\00:38:04.80
the whole idea about
being made new it cannot be--
00:38:04.83\00:38:09.19
and this is what you've to get.
00:38:09.22\00:38:10.59
It's not just on
the basis of accepting
00:38:10.62\00:38:12.15
certain tenets of the
faith and saying well,
00:38:12.18\00:38:14.62
that's true,
that's true, that's true.
00:38:14.65\00:38:16.59
Well, that's all of
those things are true
00:38:16.62\00:38:18.79
but when you
really boil it down,
00:38:18.82\00:38:20.68
you begin to see,
okay, the reason why
00:38:20.71\00:38:22.72
this does matter is
because I'm in Christ now.
00:38:22.75\00:38:26.62
Now you have to get this.
00:38:26.65\00:38:28.63
Whatever markings
are on that glove,
00:38:28.66\00:38:30.47
whatever symbols
are on that glove,
00:38:30.50\00:38:32.26
whatever name is on
that glove all now appears
00:38:32.29\00:38:37.02
and it's a part of your
hand as your hand moves.
00:38:37.05\00:38:39.91
So what you've to keep in
mind is this very next text.
00:38:39.94\00:38:43.28
Go with me to Acts
17:28, Acts, 17:28,
00:38:43.31\00:38:49.18
talking about how the in Christ
00:38:49.21\00:38:51.14
and I use a little
different phrase here
00:38:51.17\00:38:53.62
but it means the same thing.
00:38:53.65\00:38:56.08
Acts 17:28 read as follows.
00:38:56.11\00:38:59.15
"For in him we
live," Hand in glove.
00:38:59.18\00:39:03.25
"We move and have our being."
00:39:03.28\00:39:07.61
In Him we live.
00:39:07.64\00:39:09.01
Our hand is still alive
because we're living in Christ,
00:39:09.04\00:39:12.41
we move, we're now moving in
Christ and we have our being.
00:39:12.44\00:39:15.68
We exist in Christ.
00:39:15.71\00:39:17.24
So the
Christian lives in Christ.
00:39:17.27\00:39:19.68
When we move from day to day.
00:39:19.71\00:39:21.08
We move in Christ and
in Him we have our being.
00:39:21.11\00:39:23.87
He is our source of strength.
00:39:23.90\00:39:25.46
He is our source of every
aspect of our Christian life.
00:39:25.49\00:39:29.02
In Him we live and
move and have our being.
00:39:29.05\00:39:30.78
But it's in Him the
in Christ motive. John?
00:39:30.81\00:39:33.81
You know, I
think one of the text
00:39:33.84\00:39:35.70
that really
helps us amplify here
00:39:35.73\00:39:38.22
what we're talking
about by being in Christ.
00:39:38.25\00:39:40.02
What's so
important being in Christ
00:39:40.05\00:39:41.42
because we're
talking about salvation?
00:39:41.45\00:39:44.91
And that is this thought
00:39:44.94\00:39:47.73
that I've used ever
since you shared it back
00:39:47.76\00:39:50.05
and that may be you got it from
somebody else as well before
00:39:50.08\00:39:52.16
but the 3 P's of salvation.
00:39:52.19\00:39:54.16
Well, I sure came up with that.
00:39:54.19\00:39:55.56
Okay, so I've been quoting
00:39:55.59\00:39:57.49
it's from you so
it's a good thing.
00:39:57.52\00:40:00.03
The three ways that we're saved.
00:40:00.06\00:40:03.65
We're saved first of
all from the penalty of sin.
00:40:03.68\00:40:07.04
That has been
justified in Christ.
00:40:07.07\00:40:09.22
We're justified by His blood.
00:40:09.25\00:40:11.29
Then we're saved from
the 2 P, the power of sin.
00:40:11.32\00:40:16.06
That is the
sanctification process,
00:40:16.09\00:40:17.67
the growing in Christ,
the deliverance from the power
00:40:17.70\00:40:19.95
it's the way
the sin draws us in.
00:40:19.98\00:40:22.03
This is constant
deliverance from that.
00:40:22.06\00:40:23.96
And then thirdly we're
saved from the presence of sin.
00:40:23.99\00:40:26.30
That's our glorification,
00:40:26.33\00:40:27.70
that's at Christ
return at the resurrection
00:40:27.73\00:40:30.07
where we're finally
delivered from every,
00:40:30.10\00:40:33.79
every stain and
presence of sin in our life
00:40:33.82\00:40:38.44
and that of course we
don't get to experience now.
00:40:38.47\00:40:41.38
But these are the
three ways that we're saved
00:40:41.41\00:40:42.97
and so if we emphasize
00:40:43.00\00:40:44.49
one of the other
there is not a balance,
00:40:44.52\00:40:46.75
there's not a
harmonious being in Christ
00:40:46.78\00:40:48.77
and how He saves us.
00:40:48.80\00:40:50.78
But He saves us and has
saved us from this penalty
00:40:50.81\00:40:54.21
by His death on the cross.
00:40:54.24\00:40:55.61
And He continues
to save us every day
00:40:55.64\00:40:57.08
from the power of
sin as we're tempted.
00:40:57.11\00:40:59.48
And then will one
day save us in glory
00:40:59.51\00:41:02.40
when He comes back
to give us new bodies.
00:41:02.43\00:41:04.76
And so this is the
salvation that we have
00:41:04.79\00:41:06.85
and so I share that
because there's a text here
00:41:06.88\00:41:09.66
from 1 John Chapter
5, two verses together,
00:41:09.69\00:41:13.80
verses 11 and 12 are really
important to help to amplify
00:41:13.83\00:41:17.54
as I said this in
Christ concept here.
00:41:17.57\00:41:20.86
"And this is the
testimony," verse 11.
00:41:20.89\00:41:23.54
"This is the testimony that
God has given us eternal life
00:41:23.57\00:41:27.16
and this life is in his Son."
00:41:27.19\00:41:29.81
Okay, there is that in him.
00:41:29.84\00:41:31.63
Now look at this,
verse 12, very plain.
00:41:31.66\00:41:34.64
"He who has the Son has life,
00:41:34.67\00:41:37.83
he who does not have
the Son does not have life."
00:41:37.86\00:41:42.04
Simply plain--you can't
get any more simple than that.
00:41:42.07\00:41:45.26
If you have Jesus,
if you are in Him, life.
00:41:45.29\00:41:49.06
If you don't have Jesus, or
if you are not Him, no life.
00:41:49.09\00:41:52.47
The question here that
we need to ask ourselves
00:41:52.50\00:41:55.62
is everyday how
do we put on Christ?
00:41:55.65\00:41:59.04
How do we--how can
we be in Jesus everyday
00:41:59.07\00:42:02.34
from the moment we wake up
00:42:02.37\00:42:03.85
until the day the
moment we sleep each evening.
00:42:03.88\00:42:07.17
Well, let me
answer that question
00:42:07.20\00:42:08.57
with my favorite Bible text.
00:42:08.60\00:42:09.97
How do we? What
actually would we be doing
00:42:10.00\00:42:13.75
if we said we put on Christ?
00:42:13.78\00:42:15.77
Go with us to Romans Chapter 13,
00:42:15.80\00:42:18.95
if you've ever been
to one of my concerts
00:42:18.98\00:42:21.19
and I sing also, I
always write this scripture
00:42:21.22\00:42:24.72
on the face of the CD.
00:42:24.75\00:42:28.68
So if you're trying to figure
out what that scribble is,
00:42:28.71\00:42:31.22
this--this is
the text, all right.
00:42:31.25\00:42:35.21
Romans Chapter 13
beginning with verse 11.
00:42:35.24\00:42:37.28
This what it means to put on
Christ, this what it means to.
00:42:37.31\00:42:40.85
And by the way, earlier
we read verses 8 down to 10
00:42:40.88\00:42:44.86
the fulfillment of the law.
00:42:44.89\00:42:46.26
But here's what it adds
as the other responsibility.
00:42:46.29\00:42:50.25
"And do this, knowing the time,
00:42:50.28\00:42:52.93
that now it is high
time to awake out of sleep,
00:42:52.96\00:42:56.56
for now our salvation is nearer
than when we first believed.
00:42:56.59\00:43:01.26
The night is far
spent, the day is at hand.
00:43:01.29\00:43:03.01
Therefore let us,"
00:43:03.04\00:43:04.41
and this is what you
do when you're in Christ.
00:43:04.44\00:43:06.04
"Cast off the works of darkness,
00:43:06.07\00:43:08.23
and let us put on
the armor of light.
00:43:08.26\00:43:12.71
Let us walk properly or
honestly, as in the day,
00:43:12.74\00:43:16.95
not in revelry and drunkenness,
00:43:16.98\00:43:19.17
not in
licentiousness and lewdness,
00:43:19.20\00:43:22.05
not in strife and envy.
00:43:22.08\00:43:23.82
But put on the Lord Jesus
Christ and make no provision
00:43:23.85\00:43:28.17
for the flesh, to
fulfill its lusts."
00:43:28.20\00:43:31.00
Or as the King James
says, the lust thereof.
00:43:31.03\00:43:33.56
So if you notice this,
00:43:33.59\00:43:34.96
this gives us
some more specifics.
00:43:34.99\00:43:36.52
What should you not do?
00:43:36.55\00:43:38.03
Well don't make
provision for the flesh.
00:43:38.06\00:43:39.43
If you are in Christ,
cast off the works of darkness,
00:43:39.46\00:43:42.27
get away from
revelry that is partying.
00:43:42.30\00:43:45.68
That's what that
in essence is saying.
00:43:45.71\00:43:47.55
This lewd parties, revelry and
drunkenness and licentiousness,
00:43:47.58\00:43:51.64
that's sexual
immorality and lewdness
00:43:51.67\00:43:54.28
and there's so
much of this in world,
00:43:54.31\00:43:55.68
not in strife and envy,
no content against yourself,
00:43:55.71\00:43:58.70
no being--I wish I had
that, no I'm envious of you,
00:43:58.73\00:44:01.79
get away from all that and
put on the Lord Jesus Christ.
00:44:01.82\00:44:04.20
And when you're in
Christ these things die
00:44:04.23\00:44:06.72
because you can't
have, you can't have,
00:44:06.75\00:44:10.46
you can't have old--you can't
have new wine in old wineskins.
00:44:10.49\00:44:16.39
Okay, it's not
going to work, see.
00:44:16.42\00:44:19.63
So if we have--if we
are gonna be in Christ,
00:44:19.66\00:44:22.02
if anyone is in
Christ, he is new,
00:44:22.05\00:44:23.79
because Christ is
never old, you see.
00:44:23.82\00:44:26.71
See, but the issue here
this really interesting on that,
00:44:26.74\00:44:29.15
and I love that
response because you're saying
00:44:29.18\00:44:31.23
that we actually
need to put Him on.
00:44:31.26\00:44:34.08
Right.
00:44:34.11\00:44:35.48
'Cause, but we've heard Christ
has done everything for us,
00:44:35.51\00:44:38.51
just believe.
00:44:38.54\00:44:40.20
Well, part of believing
in Jesus is putting Him on.
00:44:40.23\00:44:44.12
Right.
00:44:44.15\00:44:45.52
Wearing His righteousness,
00:44:45.55\00:44:47.64
adopting His
ways, His teachings.
00:44:47.67\00:44:51.54
That's what
disciple means. Right.
00:44:51.57\00:44:53.26
Disciple of Christ is
you're a learner in His school.
00:44:53.29\00:44:56.91
He is the master,
you're the disciple.
00:44:56.94\00:44:58.97
And so putting on is what we do
00:44:59.00\00:45:02.60
and it's done
by choice everyday.
00:45:02.63\00:45:04.84
We choose to put on
Christ and so let's not think
00:45:04.87\00:45:08.63
that how we live
our Christian life,
00:45:08.66\00:45:11.92
it doesn't matter.
That's a sad reality.
00:45:11.95\00:45:14.63
Because it does matter.
00:45:14.66\00:45:16.37
If we have put on Christ, we
will not be living lustfully,
00:45:16.40\00:45:21.54
we won't be drunk, we
won't be in strife or envy
00:45:21.57\00:45:24.72
or revelry or
the different things
00:45:24.75\00:45:27.29
he's talking
about here and there
00:45:27.32\00:45:28.69
are lots of other
list in the New Testament.
00:45:28.72\00:45:30.21
Those things we have cast off
in favor of putting on Christ.
00:45:30.24\00:45:36.10
And so that's something
that happens every day,
00:45:36.13\00:45:38.39
in fact, Paul
says, "I die daily."
00:45:38.42\00:45:41.00
Every day he put on Christ
and in fact he expounds on that
00:45:41.03\00:45:45.50
in Ephesians 6 the
whole armor of God.
00:45:45.53\00:45:49.39
So, John, this idea then that
00:45:49.42\00:45:53.00
just because Jesus
is everything for us
00:45:53.03\00:45:55.45
and we are in
Christ doesn't mean that
00:45:55.48\00:45:57.01
there's something--there is a
decision that has to been made
00:45:57.04\00:45:59.18
to put Him on.
00:45:59.21\00:46:00.58
Actually wear His
ways and His purposes
00:46:00.61\00:46:04.38
and His will for our life.
00:46:04.41\00:46:06.05
In the same way
the baseball player
00:46:06.08\00:46:08.26
has to make a
decision to put the glove on,
00:46:08.29\00:46:10.22
we have to do the
same thing day by day.
00:46:10.25\00:46:12.80
And now I want you
to catch this whole idea
00:46:12.83\00:46:16.21
when we put on
Christ, it's not that
00:46:16.24\00:46:18.39
when we go to bed at
night, we take them off
00:46:18.42\00:46:19.90
and put them on
and take them off
00:46:19.93\00:46:21.30
and put them on, I don't want
to sound that way ritualistic.
00:46:21.33\00:46:24.08
But by the decisions we make,
we are either abiding in Him.
00:46:24.11\00:46:29.16
And, John, you talked about
this before the program started.
00:46:29.19\00:46:31.36
You may want to go to John 15
and talk about this whole thing.
00:46:31.39\00:46:34.29
When you put on Christ, let's
go back to the glove example
00:46:34.32\00:46:38.96
that kind of worked
earlier so let's stick with it.
00:46:38.99\00:46:41.27
If you put on the glove and
always wore it, you'll go beyond
00:46:41.30\00:46:45.74
just the phrase of,
hey, he put on a glove.
00:46:45.77\00:46:48.31
You say, no, man, he
is living in that glove.
00:46:48.34\00:46:51.16
Like a kid when you first gets
a baseball glove--I remember,
00:46:51.19\00:46:54.20
when I first got
a baseball glove,
00:46:54.23\00:46:55.72
you know, how little
boys are they get that
00:46:55.75\00:46:57.12
first pair of baseball
glove, they go to bed with it.
00:46:57.15\00:46:59.04
They sleep with
that like a pillow.
00:46:59.07\00:47:01.19
That's right.
00:47:01.22\00:47:02.59
You know, they
have this affection
00:47:02.62\00:47:04.10
to that baseball
glove, they never have one.
00:47:04.13\00:47:05.94
Oh, daddy got me
a baseball glove,
00:47:05.97\00:47:07.52
mommy got me a baseball glove.
00:47:07.55\00:47:09.09
As I Tommy, we
are going to church
00:47:09.12\00:47:11.51
leave your
baseball glove in home.
00:47:11.54\00:47:13.06
Do I have to?
00:47:13.09\00:47:14.53
They have just had
in such a connection.
00:47:14.56\00:47:16.50
They are abiding
in that relationship.
00:47:16.53\00:47:18.88
That's what it's
in essence saying.
00:47:18.91\00:47:20.28
You don't just, and John
15, maybe you're there or not.
00:47:20.31\00:47:22.79
No, I was actually, I
was gonna segue there,
00:47:22.82\00:47:24.70
because 1 John
talks about this abiding.
00:47:24.73\00:47:27.84
Okay, let's do that.
00:47:27.87\00:47:29.24
But we ask a question about what
it means then to put Christ on.
00:47:29.27\00:47:33.57
And so just in a few
verses here all from 1John,
00:47:33.60\00:47:37.07
first of all we read 1 John 2:5.
00:47:37.10\00:47:40.19
"But whoever keeps His word,
00:47:40.22\00:47:42.47
truly the love of
God is perfected in him.
00:47:42.50\00:47:45.82
By this we know
that we are in Him."
00:47:45.85\00:47:49.25
So when you are in Him
you are keeping His word
00:47:49.28\00:47:52.45
and the love of God
has been perfected in you.
00:47:52.48\00:47:54.69
That's huge. It is.
00:47:54.72\00:47:56.49
Because the statement ago,
a moment ago we talked about
00:47:56.52\00:47:59.44
somebody who
looked at the word of God
00:47:59.47\00:48:00.84
and said it
doesn't apply anymore.
00:48:00.87\00:48:02.24
Yeah.
00:48:02.27\00:48:04.46
And Jesus said, "We live
by every word that proceeds
00:48:04.49\00:48:06.91
from the mouth of God."
00:48:06.94\00:48:08.31
So you see how this comes backs
to what Jesus said not so much,
00:48:08.34\00:48:11.17
the cornucopia ideology that
while if it's not in the head
00:48:11.20\00:48:15.65
I don't it, you see.
00:48:15.68\00:48:17.36
If it's not in the New
Testament, I don't live by it.
00:48:17.39\00:48:19.68
It's the politicians speaking
here by just saying enough,
00:48:19.71\00:48:21.76
the Old
Testament doesn't matter.
00:48:21.79\00:48:23.48
It doesn't make it true? No.
00:48:23.51\00:48:25.14
It just makes people believe it.
00:48:25.17\00:48:26.69
Yeah, I don't want to say
that word cornucopia out there
00:48:26.72\00:48:28.43
because that's probably
a foreign word to somebody
00:48:28.46\00:48:30.10
and-- what's a cornucopia?
00:48:30.13\00:48:32.32
It's a gigantic
thanksgiving hat.
00:48:32.35\00:48:35.42
Put everything
inside of it, but anyway--
00:48:35.45\00:48:38.37
Not use for a hat but-- Yeah.
00:48:38.40\00:48:40.68
Here is another one, 1
John saying in my book 3:3.
00:48:40.71\00:48:47.31
Notice this, "And everyone
who has this hope in Him
00:48:47.34\00:48:50.28
purifies himself,
just as He is pure."
00:48:50.31\00:48:53.34
Do you see the
modifying of the behavior
00:48:53.37\00:48:55.00
the changing of the behavior
to fit with Christ behavior,
00:48:55.03\00:48:58.41
to want to mimic and be
like Jesus to exemplify Jesus?
00:48:58.44\00:49:02.50
And notice what it says,
"He that has hopes in him,
00:49:02.53\00:49:05.25
purify himself."
00:49:05.28\00:49:06.65
In other words you make
sure you make pure choices.
00:49:06.68\00:49:08.82
There is a
program actually on 3ABN,
00:49:08.85\00:49:10.61
I think on "Dare to
Dream" called "Pure Choices."
00:49:10.64\00:49:13.00
It's a beautiful
program, I don't know
00:49:13.03\00:49:14.62
if they use this
as a springboard text.
00:49:14.65\00:49:16.70
But we have this hope we purify
ourselves that is we keep make
00:49:16.73\00:49:21.88
pure choices even as he
is pure, Christ is pure.
00:49:21.91\00:49:27.48
We got to make
choices as the Bible says,
00:49:27.51\00:49:30.16
"Blessed is He
that keeps His garment."
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Well, who's the
garment? Belonged to Christ.
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But you got to
keep that garment.
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You got to
maintain, you have to abide
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and you have to take
that garment with you
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throughout your daily life.
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Make choices in
harmony with that garment.
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You know, John uses sports
illustration even further.
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It's really
working a whole lot today.
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So forgive me if
you don't like sports.
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But can you imagine a person
on the St. Louis Cardinals
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coming out of the
Pittsburgh Pirates dugout.
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Hanging out with the guys there.
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No, and then when the guys
comes up to bat from Pittsburgh,
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he's in a Cardinals
outfit, just wait a minute,
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what are you doing in
that, what are you doing?
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You have on a uniform.
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Why you on the other team
when you have our uniform?
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In the very same way we
cannot say we are in Christ
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and live on the other team.
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We can't play
with the other team.
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We can't hang out
with the other team.
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You can't say you're in Christ
and hang out with the world
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and do the things of the
world, and live like the world
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because the uniform
denotes that you are,
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hey, you are on the wrong team.
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So if you are in
Christ, stay on this team
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that has everything
that associates with Christ.
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I almost--I want to
go to the place where,
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you know, talking about
putting on this garment.
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We are gonna cover
in our next program.
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Okay. Now, we will.
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But I do want to cover one last
motive if you will or connection
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to what it
means to be in Christ.
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And again I'm still in 1
John look at Chapter 3:24.
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"Now he who keeps His
commandments abides in Him."
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So now being in Him requires
an abiding period of time,
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a presence.
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I like one preacher, I
think it was David Asscherick,
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he said, to
abide you must reside.
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Very good. Okay.
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So to abide in someone, you
have to be in close proximity.
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You have to be there
with that individual.
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And so abiding is
required to be in Christ.
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"So keeping His commandments
abides in Him, and He in him.
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And by this we know
that he abides in us,
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by the Spirit
whom he has given us."
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So this ordering of a
life and harmony with Christ
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we've talked about
this purifying ourselves
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and acting like Him.
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It also involves
keeping His commandments.
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And by keeping His
commandments, we abide in Him.
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And so now we go to John 15,
which is where you want to go
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with this abiding in
Him, because that's what John.
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John is big on this
abiding, John is the one
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that really talks about abiding
in Christ over and over again
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in this gospel and
again in this epistle here.
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Because John had that
kind of connection with Christ,
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he being the youngest disciple.
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What is the picture in
fact of him at the last supper,
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where was he? Leaning on Christ.
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Leaning on the breast of Christ,
you know, abiding very close.
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So he made it very clear
all throughout the Book of John
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Chapter 15 for
example verse 5, John 15:4.
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Start with verse 4
down to verse well--
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It's all. It's
all through there.
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Look at John 15, start
from verse 4 down to verse 10.
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It's a long reading
but we'll go very quickly.
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"Abide in me" Jesus says
in verse 4 "and I in you.
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As the branch cannot
bear fruit of itself,
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unless it abides in the vine,
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neither can you,
unless you abide in me.
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I am the vine,
you are the branches.
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He who abides in me and
I in him bears much fruit,
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for without me
you can do nothing."
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John, pickup verse 6.
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"If anyone does not abide in
Me, he is cast out as a branch
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and is withered,
and they gather them
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and throw them into the
fire, and they are burned.
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If you abide in Me,
and My words abide in you,
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you will ask what you desire,
and it shall be done for you.
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By this My Father is glorified,
that you bear much fruit,
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so you will be My disciples.
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As the Father loved
Me, I also have loved you,
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abide in My love." And verse 15.
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"If you keep my commands,
you will abide in my love,
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just as I have kept
my Father's commandments
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and abide in his love."
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Okay, so you cannot
abide in Christ and say,
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but those commandments they
don't really matter anymore.
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But it's all about Jesus.
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See that's all of a
sudden that's a oxymoronic,
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what do you call a
statement it's diametrically,
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these things are diametrically
appose but we put them together.
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I mean, Jesus but
all of His commandments.
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Sabbath is an important. Right.
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It's all part of
the abiding process.
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It really--we don't
want to hammer the point home
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but we do want to
hammer the point home.
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We want to make it very clear
that the requirements of Christ
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are so necessary.
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As a matter of fact continuing
in that whole ideology
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you have to follow
first of all what happens
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when we ignore the commandments.
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Well, the wages of sin is dead.
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When you go to Romans Chapter3
look at verse 23 and 24.
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Romans 3:23 reads as follows.
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"For all have sinned, and
fall short of the glory of God."
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But Romans 3:24 now adds it in.
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"Being justified
freely by His grace
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through the redemption
that is in Christ Jesus."
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So yes we've all
sinned. What does that mean?
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We've all violated
the commandments of God,
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we've lived outside
of harmony with God' law.
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But when you justified freely
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what is that bring
you in harmony with,
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in harmony with His law?
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So He says, if
you love me keep them.
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And when we are
in harmony with him,
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that no longer is an issue
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that's why the in Christ motive
is so significantly important.
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And just kind of as a
segue to our next program,
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because we're
gonna continue this topic
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in the very next program,
'cause there is all this things
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are important to
understand in a principled way,
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but we need to make them
part of the practical life.
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And so this is why I
love the words of Paul,
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2 Corinthians13:5,
"Examine yourselves,
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as to whether you
are in the faith."
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Okay. "Test yourselves.
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Do you not know yourself
that Jesus Christ is in you
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unless indeed you are," what?
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Disqualified. "Disqualified."
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We're gonna talk about
that word disqualified,
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what is it mean?
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Is it possible to
be in Christ one day
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and then to not be
in Christ another day.
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Can that happen?
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Does the scripture talk about
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our need to continually
examine ourselves to make sure
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that we are in the faith?
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That's what I believe
this text here is suggesting.
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And so there are lots of things
that we're gonna bring into it,
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but we really want you
to stay with us for that,
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'cause it's exciting.
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The other one I
want to bring out
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is Roman 6:11, Roman 6:11.
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And what I've actually done
00:56:37.35\00:56:38.72
and you could do this
too at home if you like
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this one the Bible says,
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"Likewise you
also, reckon yourselves
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to be dead indeed to sin,
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but alive to God in
Christ Jesus our Lord."
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So what does that mean?
00:56:52.03\00:56:53.50
If you are no
longer living for yourself
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you reckon yourself to
be dead and alive to Christ.
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It is hard to die to self,
to die to those sinful practices
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that we've done all our life,
00:57:03.89\00:57:05.26
but in Christ
He will deliver us.
00:57:05.29\00:57:08.11
Not only does He
promise to be our savior
00:57:08.14\00:57:10.53
He promises to be
our Lord and to move us
00:57:10.56\00:57:14.34
and to give us
strength and power
00:57:14.37\00:57:15.74
away from the life of sin to
live a life of righteousness.
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That right, and, John, you know,
the reality of this reference is
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we'll never know that
joy we'll never understand
00:57:21.14\00:57:23.21
the power of what it
means to be in Christ
00:57:23.24\00:57:25.70
until we pray the prayer
Lord allow me to die to self.
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So until we see you
again may the Lord bless you
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and have a great day in Christ.
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