Hello friends, grab
your Bible and a friend
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and sit back as we
explore God's word together
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on this edition of House Calls.
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Welcome again to
another House Calls program
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as you can see I'm here,
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but I'm not by myself
I've got my good friend
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Pastor John Stanton
sitting to my right.
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Good to see you John.
It is good to be here John.
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But that's a fancy
shirt. I really like that.
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I was thinking
the same about yours.
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Well, you know we
try to dress our best
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because this is the
best program in the land.
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At this very moment you
should not be in any place
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but right here with us and
since you're listening to us
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you've made the best decision.
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Stay tuned for the next
hour as we open our Bibles,
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as we invite the
Lord's presence here
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and get your
friends, get your pens,
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get your questions and sit down,
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because we're
going to be talking about
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the continuation
of Spiritual Babylon
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and we always enjoy having you,
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stay tuned with us.
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If you're listening by
radio, listen very carefully
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because you don't
want to miss this program,
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but John, before we do
anything we always have prayer.
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Let's have prayer again here.
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Father, we again thank
you so much for the privilege
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of coming before You
and opening Your word,
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the word You've given to us.
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What a special word that
is and important in our lives.
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Lord, we thank You
for not only the word,
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but Your Spirit
whom You sent to us
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to help us understand it.
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And so we ask for His
presence here now to be with us,
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guide us through Your scriptures
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and especially this topic
that we're talking about today
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a very sensitive one,
but a very important one
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in the day in which we live.
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We pray for Your
help and Your guidance.
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In Jesus name, amen. Amen.
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So you can also gather and say,
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and answer those
and so the first half
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of our program is
often dedicated to questions.
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So John, what do
we have for today?
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We had a question from Rochelle.
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Rochelle, is that your wife?
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No, it's not. Okay.
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But it is
another Rochelle. Okay.
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And she says,
she wonders at times
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about the seeming
difference between
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God of the Old
Testament and Jesus.
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Jesus himself said that
"my Father and I are one,"
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but at sometimes
it doesn't appear so.
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And she references a text here.
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Deuteronomy
19:21, as an example.
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Why the disconnect?
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And I would even say,
is there a disconnect?
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Okay, very good. So
let's take a look here.
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Let's read the verse
first that Rochelle gives us
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from Deuteronomy 19:21. Okay.
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And it says here,
"Your eyes shall not pity,
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life shall be for
life, eye for eye,
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tooth for tooth, hand
for hand, foot for foot."
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This was the last
text in the passage
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given on the law of witnesses
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and also the counsel
God gave the Israelites
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as they were to go
into the land of Israel
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or the land of Canaan,
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that they were to take
possession of that land,
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but to destroy utterly all that
existed and lived in Canaan.
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Not just fathers, but mothers
and children and livestock
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to some degree in
some of these nations
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it was all to be destroyed
as they enter into this land.
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Some look at that and they say,
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"well, you know, the God
we serve is not that God.
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It's Jesus of
the New Testament."
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And so sometimes
you find this disconnect
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between Old
Testament and New Testament.
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But what we read in scriptures
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that God is the same
yesterday, today, and how long?
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Forever. Forever.
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So God has not
changed, we have not changed
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and the fact that we
are still corrupted by sin.
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What has-- the
problem we have here
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with this
apparent disconnect is,
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understanding God's
character. Who He really is?
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And there's been a lot of
misapprehension about God.
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We in fact we go
overboard to reveal
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how God is so loving and kind,
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and I think we disconnect
ourselves as Christians
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to a great degree
from the Old Testament,
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some of us do because
we're trying to almost
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shed that
characteristic of God. Right.
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But I think the best
way that I can explain
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God's character is
to go to Exodus 33,
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when I hear God's character
I think of Exodus 33. Okay.
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And so let's go to Exodus 33,
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and we will read
there a clear explanation.
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A clear
iteration from God Himself
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as to the nature
of His character.
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Who He is? What verse?
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And we're going to start
here with verse 18. Okay.
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Just to give you
some context here,
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Moses is on the mountain,
on Mount Sinai with God
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and he's been
conversing with God.
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And he says here in verse
18, "Please show me your glory."
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Moses is asking
to see God's glory.
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Then he said and this is
the Lord responding to Moses,
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"I will make all my
goodness pass before you.
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And I will proclaim the
name of the Lord before you,
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I will be gracious to
whom I will be gracious,
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I will have compassion on
whom I will have compassion,"
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but he said, "you
cannot see my face,
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for no man shall
see me and live." Okay?
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So then he hides Moses
in the cleft of the rock,
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from seeing Him face to face,
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so we can see His backside
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as He goes by him
to reveal His glory.
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So we see here, on Mount Sinai
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and this is the place
that also Moses received
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the Ten
Commandment cut out with stone,
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written by the finger of God.
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We see here God saying to Moses,
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"I'm going to
show you My glory."
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So what happens to
reveal God's glory?
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What does He do as
he passes by Moses?
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Well, you'll see
in Chapter 34 verse 1,
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it says, "Moses cut
two tablets of stone
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like the first
ones and I will write
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on these tablets the words
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that were on the first
tablets which you broke."
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So this is his second visit.
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Remember what happened
after the first one John.
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What did Moses do
with those tablets
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when he saw the golden
calf? He threw them down.
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He threw them
down and broke them
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because that was
symbolic in Moses' own mind
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of the breaking of the
covenant already. That's right.
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Because the people, if
you remember in Exodus 20
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he said, listen all
that God says we will do,
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when God thundered
the Ten Commandments
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from Mount Sinai and they were
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at the base of the
mountain observing.
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All that he says
they'll do and then of course
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Moses goes up gets
the Ten Commandments,
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he comes down
sees that they broke
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the
commandments, he breaks them.
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So now here's the second set
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that God is
going to give to Moses.
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But now we see what God does
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as He's delivering
these Ten Commandments,
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verse 5 of chapter 34,
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"Now the Lord
descended in the cloud
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and stood with him
there, that is with Moses
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and proclaimed
the name of the Lord."
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So He's responding,
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He's doing now what He said
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He would do to
show His glory. Right.
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Verse 6, "And the
Lord passed before him
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and proclaimed
the Lord, the Lord God
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merciful and
gracious long suffering,
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in other words,
patient and abounding
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in goodness and truth,
keeping mercy for thousands,
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forgiving iniquity and
transgression and sin."
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Now, let's pause there.
Doesn't that sound like Jesus?
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That is totally Jesus.
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That it sounds just like Jesus.
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Right. You know what?
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It was Jesus.
That's exactly right.
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The God of the Old Testament
was Jesus prior to being
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Jesus in physical form
on this earth. That's right.
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And so Jesus gave
His Ten Commandments
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and as He did that
He proclaimed His name,
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His goodness to Moses.
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This is Jesus. That's right.
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And Jesus
manifested this character
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while He was here on this earth,
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and we read it
about in the four gospels.
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But now let's go further.
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We like to stop there sometimes,
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but let's go further because
this is still Jesus speaking.
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It says, "By no
means clearing the guilty.
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Visiting the
iniquity of the Father
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is upon the children
and the children's children
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to the third and
the fourth generation.
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And what did Moses do?
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He made haste and bowed his head
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toward the earth
and he worshiped.
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I have found
grace in your sight,
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he says if I have
found grace in sight,
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Oh, Lord, let my
Lord I pray go among us
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even though we are
stiff necked people
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and pardon our
iniquity and our sin
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and take us as
your inheritance."
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Now, you know what's
interesting here, John.
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God, Christ really
before He came to this earth
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to die for us,
declareth His name
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and talks about
His graciousness,
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His long
suffering, His patience.
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And the other
side of the equation,
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His justice. That's right.
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He won't just clear the guilty,
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He will meet out
punishment and ultimate demise
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for those who hold on
to their sin and refused
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to accept His gracious
offering of forgiveness.
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But notice when
Moses heard this,
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Moses didn't say
"Oh, well, in that case
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I'm going to stay
away from you Lord."
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No. He wasn't afraid of the fact
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that God was just as
well as He was merciful.
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No, not at all.
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He said, "we want you to
come among us, dwell with us.
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I know we're stiff necked,
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I know we're a
problem to you sometimes,
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but we want you with us."
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You see people always
wanted to be with Jesus,
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because of how
gracious and loving He was.
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But then Jesus is
also a God of justice
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and how do we know that
because He died on the cross.
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If God was not a God of justice,
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Jesus would not
have died on the cross
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to pay the penalty
for the sin of you and me.
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If He could have
just changed his lawns,
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and you know what, it's
all about just forgiveness.
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He would have come down,
given that message and said,
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"Now I'm going back to heaven"
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the cross would
never have happened,
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because He could
have excused sin.
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But God can't excuse
sins, Jesus can't excuse sin.
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He said, "If you love
me, keep My commandments."
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He talked about the ultimate
punishment of the wicked.
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Jesus spoke
about all these things.
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But yet we want to divorce
Him and separate Him from
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the God of the Old
Testament is the same God.
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We can't. Right.
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So you might ask,
"Well, what was God doing then
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when He said to the Israelites
go in and destroy them all."
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I would venture to say,
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you would not allow your
children to be around someone
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who would corrupt
and destroy your lives.
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And the only way
they were going to set up
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a place for them
to exist in safety
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and under the
protective banner of their God,
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is to destroy the
nations that were there.
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What do I say
about those nations?
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If you read about
what their practices were,
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they were corrupt beyond belief.
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They were sacrificing
their children in the fire.
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Right. They were burning them.
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They were doing horrific things
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in the name of,
their worship of Satan
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and so when we see
that picture you might say,
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well, you know, what God
was being very protective here
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to make sure that the
Israelites weren't going to be--
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not only worshipping
or doing the same things,
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but making sure the Israelites
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were going to
fall into their hands
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and he was protective of them.
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So He said, "I will give
you power to wipe them out."
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And in fact what God
was doing there, John
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Was He was judging them early.
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He was judging them in
advance of the ultimate judgment
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at the end of the
world. Right, he saw it.
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And he saw what as
coming. If he did not do that,
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he could not have protected
and cared for his children
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as he knew he needed
to do to get them through
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to be the people
that he wanted them to be.
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And we wouldn't want
anything less for our children.
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What do we do to rapists
and murderers and others?
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I mean life sentences sometimes,
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even the death
penalty sometimes,
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but we make sure that they
are kept from harming those
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who they would harm if we--
if we didn't protect our kids.
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Right, those who
are not responsive
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to the
redemptive judgments of God,
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will receive the
punitive judgments of God.
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And you find here--
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Break that down,
because that's important
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you use two words.
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Right, redemptive and--
Redemptive and punitive.
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And the redemptive, see God,
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His mercy and His
message of salvation
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as is today is open to everyone,
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but the message that
people sometimes preach
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that everybody
is going to be saved
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and there are some
people that for whatever reason
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I don't know that doctrine
comes out of the woodworks
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that God will
never destroy anybody,
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everybody is going to be saved
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and now we have
this secular mindset
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that no matter what you do,
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it doesn't really come
to the point of judgment.
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When you look at the
God of the Old Testament,
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you also find-- and
this is a strange thing John
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you don't find the lake
of fire in the Old Testament.
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You find it only
in the New Testament.
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You don't find hell
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where the final judgment
is going to be carried out.
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In the Old Testament the
lake of fire is not burning
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or not even stored up
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or in action I should
say in the Old Testament,
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it is reserved for
judgment in the New Testament.
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So this whole
ideology about God being
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loving and kind
and He's also just
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and He's a God of
justice and judgment.
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In order to be loving
and kind to your children,
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you have to
establish justice and judgment.
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For people that are just
wanting to have a good time,
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you can't really enjoy
your life without parameters
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that guide the pleasure
of the safety of your life,
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for the safety of the
pleasures of your life.
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The one thing that reflects
on the justice and judgment
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and love and care
of God is the fact
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that when he said to
the children of Israel,
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go and spare none young, old,
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men, women,
children wipe them out,
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he was able to declare
the end from the beginning
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and from ancient times
things that didn't even happen.
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And so what God does,
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He has a sovereignty
that sees way beyond,
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He sees over the
hill, down the mountain,
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around the valley in the corner
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before we even
start the journey.
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So this is exactly
what that is talking about.
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How could God be
the one that wipes out
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and destroys and
obliterates and judges,
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that's exactly who He is.
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You know, I hear
somebody saying John,
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you know you said Jesus was
the God of the Old Testament
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and where did
you find that from.
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Jesus says, "I am that I am."
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The I am met Moses
at the burning bush.
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That was the base of
Mount Sinai. That's right.
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The same
mountain that he came back
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and gave Moses
the Ten Commandments
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to 40 plus years later.
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Or no, actually it
was that four years
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actually that he was
there with his father Jethro,
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but still they came back
after delivering the Israelites
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from Egypt back
to that same mountain
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where God Jesus delivered
the Ten Commandments again.
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So you can't disconnect that.
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No you can't. But
one of the things--
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And by the way, just
don't lose that point
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because Jesus
also said to the Jews
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in the New Testament
before Abraham was I am.
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He made him very, very
clear. That's right. I am.
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And when Moses said
well who send me say,
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"I am sent you."
Yeah. See, so there.
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Yeah. Now here's the
thing from the book of Jude,
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it says in verse
7, "Sodom and Gomorrah
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and the cities around
them in the similar manner
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to these having
themselves over--
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having given themselves
over to sexual immorality
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and gone after strange
flesh." Notice their practices.
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"That they are set
forth as an example
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suffering the
vengeance of eternal fire."
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They were the example of
what fire or the lake of fire.
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An example, not that there
fire continued to, you know,
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burn after they were
destroyed. Destroyed.
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But that the
destruction of those cities
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and other nations that
even the Israelites wanting
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to destroy were an example
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of what God would
again do at the end of time.
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So you hear you have
God doing the same thing
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then that He's going
to do at the end of time.
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But one is an example,
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one is going to be
the actual fire. Right.
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The eternal fire that
burns all the wicked up.
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So we're seeing
the same practice
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in the Old and New Testament,
is just understanding it.
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And so don't listen to
someone who wants to separate
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the God of the New
from the God of the Old.
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It is the same God
and these are harmonious.
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It is the whole picture
that we find in all of scripture
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to help us
understand God's nature.
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Yes, you brought out a
very good parallel there.
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I hadn't heard
you say that before,
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but then again I do miss things
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even though my ears are large.
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Verse 7 of Jude it says,
"This fire that came down
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on Sodom and
Gomorrah was an example--
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Example? Of what's going
to happen afterwards." Right.
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And who was the one
that brought this fire down?
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God. That's right.
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Now you find
there's no separation
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and even though
the Bible speaks of
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"let us make man in our image"
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the very expressed
image Jesus says in Colossians
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"He's the expressed
image of the Father."
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Everything that the
Father believes and teaches
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and holds dear Jesus does.
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And so He even
said to His disciples
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"Have I been with you so long
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that you have
not seen the Father."
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So Jesus is not acting out
of harmony with His Father.
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He's not doing something that
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"Well, I like my
Father to do that, but I'm--
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since He doesn't do,
I'll go ahead and do it."
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That--there's no
division here at all.
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They are al in harmony.
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But people will point out
that there are isolated verses
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in the Bible that
make it appear as though
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"well, I'm so glad that, that
God is not the same God today,
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because we haven't
analyzed this so far. Okay.
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You know, there would be a lot
of dead folk in church nowadays.
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Yeah, I may think about that.
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I mean in the church in
essence of sapphire light
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of the Lord. That's right.
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And what happened to them
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when they came into
the presence of God,
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into His place of
worship, the light hit him,
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he was struck dead right there.
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And so you see
judgment then upon their life
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at that point serve
as an example for others
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so that they wouldn't
repeat that. That's right.
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That's the example that we find
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of what happened
to the nations before.
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You practice you live
and you practice like them,
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ultimately you
will end up like them.
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We cannot skip that.
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So this is what he was doing
and he was setting an example
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and he used the
Israelites to do that in Canaan.
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Well, thank you John,
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that's a good
one, I appreciate that.
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Another one from a
young man, 15 years old.
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His name is
Malique. My name is Malique.
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I am 15-years-old and
he says where he lives.
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I was talking to some
of my friends at school
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and they claimed that we
should have sex now at this age.
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I told them that the Bible says
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we are not to have
sex before marriage
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for I go to a Christian school.
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However, I was not able
to give them or tell them
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exactly where the Bible says
not to have sex before marriage.
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I'm asking you
would you please show me
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where the Bible says that
sex before marriage is wrong,
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so that I'll be able to
show it to my friends at school
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the next time we
come across this subject.
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Okay, that's it.
That's very good.
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Because some
young people nowadays
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or young people in general
they just bend to peer pressure.
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But thank you
Malique, for that question
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because young people
need to know that nowadays
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besides all the
bad things that happen
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and there's
sexually transmitted diseases
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and the guilt and
the loss of one's purity
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and just not
preserving that special gift
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that God reserves for marriage
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is all the reasons that I
could cite that we shouldn't.
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But let me go ahead and
give you the Bible verses.
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There are lots
of them by the way.
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When you think of the word,
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the Bible uses two
words in particular,
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you have the
broad words sexually,
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the broad phrase
sexual immorality.
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You have the other
phrase that is very indicative
00:20:08.46\00:20:11.32
of what happened in Sodom
and Gomorrah strange flesh.
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Men with men, women with women.
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That's way beyond the confines
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as whether
they're married or not.
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I mean, this is,
it doesn't really--
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marriage doesn't
even make that right.
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So I want to make
that very, very clear
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because some people think
nowadays the new thing is--
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well, if we get
married I guess its okay.
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You know, what amazes me
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is those who
don't acknowledge God
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believe that they
have to get married
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to make it
right, anyway strange.
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You can't, there are certain
things cannot be made right
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whether the marriage
is in the equation or not
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and that is men with
men and women with women
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cannot be made
better by marriage.
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But give you a
couple of passages
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one here is
First Corinthians 6:18,
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it says, "Flee
sexual immorality."
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Flee it, in other
words run from it.
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"Every sin that a man
does is outside the body,
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but he who
commits sexual immorality
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sins against his own body."
00:21:04.84\00:21:06.21
What a lot of
people don't understand
00:21:06.24\00:21:07.90
is when two people are joined
together in a sexual situation
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that the reason why
the Bible indicated that
00:21:12.62\00:21:15.52
that should
happen before marriage
00:21:15.55\00:21:16.92
is because they become one,
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they become one
in a lot of ways.
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And first in God's
sight they are one,
00:21:20.74\00:21:22.29
that's a blessed
and sanctified union,
00:21:22.32\00:21:25.00
that's the most
important aspect of it,
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that is for man and
woman in their marriage.
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Once again not woman
with woman not man with man.
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That's ordain by God
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from the very
beginning Adam and Eve.
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Don't want to
be cynical and say,
00:21:36.38\00:21:38.06
Adam and Steve
because that's I don't want
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to take this lightly.
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Very serious approach
when it comes to what God
00:21:41.64\00:21:43.53
has established
from the very beginning.
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But you find the immorality
is when God's blessing
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is not bestowed
upon that relationship
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and the blessing
of God is withheld
00:21:54.77\00:21:56.49
when they are not married.
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To give you even
further evidence of that,
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First Corinthians
7, verses 8 and 9.
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And let me read
verse 2 first of all
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because First Corinthians 7
deals with this quite a bit.
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It says in verse
2, "Nevertheless,
00:22:11.76\00:22:14.90
because of sexual immorality,
let each man have his own wife,
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and let each woman
have her own husband."
00:22:21.43\00:22:24.95
See, his own
wife, her own husband
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to avoid sexual immorality.
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Why is it saying man
and woman, woman and man.
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Its because that's
what exactly what happens
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when people come
together in a non married format
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man with woman
and woman with man
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is immoral
outside of being married,
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that's why he uses
the word husband and wife.
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Those terms are only applicable
in the confines of marriage.
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So that's a very powerful verse.
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And then it goes
to verse 8 and 9.
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"But I say to the
unmarried and to the widows
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It is good for them if
they remain even as I am."
00:23:01.83\00:23:06.30
In other words,
unmarried. Paul was.
00:23:06.33\00:23:08.69
But, verse 9, "But
if they cannot exercise
00:23:08.72\00:23:11.87
self-control, let them marry.
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For it is better to marry
than to burn with passion."
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And the phrase
with passion was added
00:23:19.78\00:23:22.76
because it was simply,
00:23:22.79\00:23:24.16
its better to
marry than to burn,
00:23:24.19\00:23:26.26
and the burning
there is as the Bible says,
00:23:26.29\00:23:28.80
burned in their lust.
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And that's exactly
what you must avoid.
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John, we find today
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and thank you,
Malique, for the question.
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So the key is God has
established a way whereby
00:23:36.96\00:23:40.44
marriage is the-- marriage bed
00:23:40.47\00:23:44.07
as the Bible says, is undefiled.
00:23:44.10\00:23:46.59
But the bed where
sexual practices occur
00:23:46.62\00:23:49.98
where they are not
married it is defiled,
00:23:50.01\00:23:53.83
that mean it's not
clean, it is corrupt,
00:23:53.86\00:23:56.35
it is immoral, it is not pure.
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So you want to avoid that.
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And lastly the council to
the young and the unmarried,
00:24:00.14\00:24:03.76
we could avoid so
much sorrow, so much grief.
00:24:03.79\00:24:07.61
Let me talk about the
millions of young people
00:24:07.64\00:24:10.31
that are having babies outside
of the confines of marriage,
00:24:10.34\00:24:13.47
that alone is a
plight to the family.
00:24:13.50\00:24:16.78
And I'd say this in
the context of the fact
00:24:16.81\00:24:20.07
that I was
conceived outside of marriage.
00:24:20.10\00:24:22.56
My mom and dad were not married,
00:24:22.59\00:24:24.06
but God turn to
thing that was not done
00:24:24.09\00:24:26.94
with His blessing
into a tremendous blessing,
00:24:26.97\00:24:29.01
because here I am, a
child of God nonetheless.
00:24:29.04\00:24:32.44
My point is, God
does not authorize
00:24:32.47\00:24:35.11
sex outside of marriage,
00:24:35.14\00:24:36.78
but the birth of a child
is a blessing nonetheless.
00:24:36.81\00:24:40.84
You have to keep that in mind,
00:24:40.87\00:24:42.24
because these are
terrible term John,
00:24:42.27\00:24:44.37
which I won't use on the air,
00:24:44.40\00:24:45.77
I'll use the term illegitimate
00:24:45.80\00:24:47.17
because another
more worldly term use.
00:24:47.20\00:24:49.81
The child is not illegitimate,
the parents are illegitimate,
00:24:49.84\00:24:54.52
because what they have
done was not legitimized by God,
00:24:54.55\00:24:57.32
yet the birth of the child
is a blessing to all humanity
00:24:57.35\00:25:02.03
when God steps in
as He did in my case
00:25:02.06\00:25:05.33
and directs the child's life.
00:25:05.36\00:25:07.85
So not only that the
sexually transmitted disease,
00:25:07.88\00:25:12.64
that's another thing
00:25:12.67\00:25:14.04
and the list goes on
and on and on and on.
00:25:14.07\00:25:16.05
And young ladies who
after the guy has had his way
00:25:16.08\00:25:20.20
they move on and you
know, I would say to young men,
00:25:20.23\00:25:23.53
treat a young
lady that you're dating
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as you would treat your sister.
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And I hope that what that means
00:25:27.48\00:25:30.87
is you love your
sister in a godly way,
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that you honor your sister
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you wouldn't do
anything terrible to her,
00:25:34.75\00:25:37.06
you don't beat her up, you
don't use profane language,
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you honor your sister
00:25:40.31\00:25:41.68
as a Christian young
man would honor his sister,
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that's the context of that.
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But, John, you
want to add to that?
00:25:45.96\00:25:47.52
No, I think you
covered it pretty well.
00:25:47.55\00:25:49.95
There are several aspects
00:25:49.98\00:25:51.35
sexual
immorality you talked about
00:25:51.38\00:25:52.75
its being inclusive of all
the different kinds of things
00:25:52.78\00:25:56.54
that happen within that.
00:25:56.57\00:25:58.02
Bible uses the term adulterer,
fornicator, you know--
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Sexual immorality.
00:26:04.11\00:26:05.48
Strange flesh,
these are the things
00:26:05.51\00:26:07.15
all fit within that
sexual immorality umbrella.
00:26:07.18\00:26:10.36
And so that when the Bible was
saying in the Ten Commandments
00:26:10.39\00:26:14.18
thou shall not
commit adultery. Right.
00:26:14.21\00:26:16.16
It's not just referring
to somebody that's married
00:26:16.19\00:26:19.80
having sex
outside of the marriage,
00:26:19.83\00:26:21.20
its also referring to
those that are not married,
00:26:21.23\00:26:23.13
to a degree, its all inclusive
00:26:23.16\00:26:25.62
of the sexual immorality
umbrella that we have.
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And so you want to
maintain the purity.
00:26:29.53\00:26:32.27
Let me tell you why?
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I'd say these young
people that are, you know,
00:26:33.70\00:26:36.02
they are just
under the pressures
00:26:36.05\00:26:37.42
of the modern world,
00:26:37.45\00:26:39.02
you know, there are
lots of people that are--
00:26:39.05\00:26:40.55
they admire the rock stars
and the musicians and the actors
00:26:40.58\00:26:44.85
and the people that are
on television all the time
00:26:44.88\00:26:47.13
and they are
talking about the many kids,
00:26:47.16\00:26:48.53
and somebody
says, well, you know,
00:26:48.56\00:26:50.08
did you know that, I'm
not gonna mention names,
00:26:50.11\00:26:52.32
did you know that that song,
that person has sing this song,
00:26:52.35\00:26:54.65
she just had a baby
with this other star,
00:26:54.68\00:26:56.26
but they're not married.
00:26:56.29\00:26:57.89
And they talk about
the baby and they have--
00:26:57.92\00:26:59.74
you know, people say,
00:26:59.77\00:27:01.14
I want to be like
that guy or that girl
00:27:01.17\00:27:02.54
that my favorite
actor, my favorite singer.
00:27:02.57\00:27:04.40
And we become so
distorted in our minds,
00:27:04.43\00:27:07.86
because we are following a
practice that is pushing us
00:27:07.89\00:27:11.00
to this what we
call popular immorality.
00:27:11.03\00:27:14.46
You know, they want
to be like somebody,
00:27:14.49\00:27:16.76
but it's immoral just the same.
00:27:16.79\00:27:18.19
So no matter who you follow,
00:27:18.22\00:27:20.20
if you're not
following the Lord,
00:27:20.23\00:27:21.80
if you're not
following His word,
00:27:21.83\00:27:23.79
then it's not something
that you should participate in.
00:27:23.82\00:27:26.60
Keep yourself pure,
00:27:26.63\00:27:28.00
because there is nothing
like waiting till Christmas
00:27:28.03\00:27:30.79
to open your Christmas gifts
00:27:30.82\00:27:32.60
when you get old you
understand exactly what I mean.
00:27:32.63\00:27:34.68
Okay, that's a metaphor,
what do you say? All right.
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Well, thank you for
your Bible questions
00:27:38.06\00:27:41.77
and your comments
and all the things
00:27:41.80\00:27:43.48
that you do to make
this program successful.
00:27:43.51\00:27:45.23
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00:27:45.26\00:27:47.54
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00:27:47.57\00:27:51.51
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that means organization.
00:27:51.54\00:27:55.60
Thank you, so much.
00:27:55.63\00:27:57.15
Now we talked about,
00:27:57.18\00:27:58.84
I think the last
thing we did about Babylon,
00:27:58.87\00:28:01.60
we were in Daniel 3 and--
00:28:01.63\00:28:04.44
we just want to
emphasis that a little bit more
00:28:04.47\00:28:06.25
after we finish
the program we said,
00:28:06.28\00:28:07.65
we want to go back to
that plain of Dura setting
00:28:07.68\00:28:10.72
and finish identify what was
happening there while we can--
00:28:10.75\00:28:16.02
But we also talked
about going into the women,
00:28:16.05\00:28:18.95
spiritual Babylon
being represented as a woman.
00:28:18.98\00:28:22.13
Okay, that's right.
That's the other aspect.
00:28:22.16\00:28:23.53
that's the place where
we start a transition to,
00:28:23.56\00:28:25.64
we talked about Chapter
3, we talked about Chapter 5,
00:28:25.67\00:28:30.56
you know, using
the things of the Lord
00:28:30.59\00:28:32.45
that were the holy
things of God for worship
00:28:32.48\00:28:35.83
that was Pagan in origin.
00:28:35.86\00:28:37.39
And so the different aspects
that were connected to Babylon
00:28:37.42\00:28:40.86
and now is labeled as being
connected to spiritual Babylon.
00:28:40.89\00:28:44.64
We need to find out
what's spiritual Babylon is,
00:28:44.67\00:28:47.17
so we can began
to see the things
00:28:47.20\00:28:49.01
that are in spiritual Babylon,
00:28:49.04\00:28:51.18
those who practice these
things are what the scriptures
00:28:51.21\00:28:54.08
are referring to in a
prophetic sense. That's right.
00:28:54.11\00:28:56.71
And the reason
I mention Daniel 3
00:28:56.74\00:28:59.34
is because one of the
clarity we want to make here
00:28:59.37\00:29:02.22
is when the music was played
00:29:02.25\00:29:04.48
it did not persuade
Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego
00:29:04.51\00:29:10.67
which are the names given there
in the Babylonian province.
00:29:10.75\00:29:13.48
It did not persuade
them to still bow down
00:29:13.51\00:29:16.17
and worship the gods of Babylon.
00:29:16.20\00:29:17.99
So what we want to point out
00:29:18.02\00:29:19.68
is when you look
at the verse here,
00:29:19.71\00:29:21.08
what's happening
nowadays in spiritual Babylon,
00:29:21.11\00:29:24.40
that's sounds so odd,
00:29:24.43\00:29:25.80
its one of the most
amazing oxymorons in the Bible,
00:29:25.83\00:29:29.56
spiritual, its more like
spiritualistic or spiritualism
00:29:29.59\00:29:35.19
rather than spiritual
like Christ to spiritual.
00:29:35.22\00:29:38.02
But what is in essence saying
is Babylon for some reason
00:29:38.05\00:29:40.98
is taken on a tone
that is not native to it.
00:29:41.01\00:29:44.25
You see, its trying to
put for the Christian foot--
00:29:44.28\00:29:48.02
Think about today,
let's just talk common sense,
00:29:48.05\00:29:50.33
how many people
say I'm spiritual,
00:29:50.36\00:29:52.49
I just don't believe
in organize religion.
00:29:52.52\00:29:54.52
They're spiritual but they
don't want the organization
00:29:54.55\00:29:59.24
that God has set
for through His church.
00:29:59.27\00:30:01.49
And so you have, I would say,
00:30:01.52\00:30:03.70
part of spiritual
Babylon includes that mentality
00:30:03.73\00:30:07.77
that I don't want to
be connected necessarily
00:30:07.80\00:30:09.60
maybe to a specific church,
but I want to be spiritual,
00:30:09.63\00:30:15.31
you know, yeah and it
just, its part of that mentality
00:30:15.34\00:30:19.19
that I want to do it my way
00:30:19.22\00:30:21.13
which is very Babel,
Babylon type of mentality.
00:30:21.16\00:30:25.60
You know, that just
open up another door
00:30:25.63\00:30:27.92
that I want to
go to in Revelation.
00:30:27.95\00:30:29.39
Revelation, let's go back
earlier some, I said earlier,
00:30:29.42\00:30:33.23
but just let's
go and wrap up this,
00:30:33.26\00:30:35.59
this point of transition.
00:30:35.62\00:30:36.99
When you look at Daniel
3 and you look at verse 5,
00:30:37.02\00:30:41.86
pretty
interesting, music has taken
00:30:41.89\00:30:44.41
center stage nowadays
when it comes to worship.
00:30:44.44\00:30:46.87
The word of God
is being minimized
00:30:46.90\00:30:49.54
and the music
is being maximized,
00:30:49.57\00:30:51.97
and so you have places
where there is dynamic music,
00:30:52.00\00:30:55.27
but what I want to get at
here very, very important point.
00:30:55.30\00:30:59.12
Daniel 3:5, "At the time
you hear the sound of the horn,
00:30:59.15\00:31:03.32
the flute, the lyre,
the palsy, or the psaltery"
00:31:03.35\00:31:08.74
or how we want to say that,
00:31:08.77\00:31:10.14
in symphony that meaning
being all played together,
00:31:10.17\00:31:14.15
with all kinds of music.
00:31:14.18\00:31:18.11
That's the phrase
I want to bring out.
00:31:18.14\00:31:19.87
You shall fall down
and worship the God,
00:31:19.90\00:31:22.27
the golden image
or the gold image
00:31:22.30\00:31:24.94
that King
Nebuchadnezzar has set up.
00:31:24.97\00:31:28.03
Couple of things this
image was not set up by God.
00:31:28.06\00:31:30.77
First of all God said,
thou shall not bow down
00:31:30.80\00:31:32.58
to worship any image.
00:31:32.61\00:31:33.98
Secondly He says,
all kinds of music
00:31:34.01\00:31:36.91
and today in
Christendom all kinds of music
00:31:36.94\00:31:40.94
has entered into the church.
00:31:40.97\00:31:42.44
Rock, rap, hip hop, techno
00:31:42.47\00:31:46.11
all kinds of music has
entered into the church
00:31:46.14\00:31:48.60
that is being used not
for the worship of God,
00:31:48.63\00:31:51.31
but for the worship of
the image that has been set up
00:31:51.34\00:31:54.69
in place of the
worship of the true God.
00:31:54.72\00:31:56.95
Let me encourage you, to
do like these Hebrews did,
00:31:56.98\00:31:59.58
they refused to bow down
00:31:59.61\00:32:02.39
no matter what kind
of song was being played.
00:32:02.42\00:32:05.10
So is the problem the music,
00:32:05.14\00:32:06.57
the problem with things
that are borrowed from Babylon,
00:32:06.60\00:32:10.00
this is Babylonian music
used for the purpose of worship.
00:32:10.03\00:32:13.11
Make sure that
the music they use--
00:32:13.14\00:32:15.12
that you use for
the purpose of worship
00:32:15.15\00:32:16.90
is not being
borrowed from the world,
00:32:16.93\00:32:19.53
because there is no such
thing as sanctifying something
00:32:19.56\00:32:22.15
that is not sanctified by God.
00:32:22.18\00:32:24.12
You cannot sanctify something
00:32:24.15\00:32:25.52
that is not used
for Christian purposes
00:32:25.55\00:32:28.29
and that's what happening
in the church nowadays, John.
00:32:28.32\00:32:30.84
A lot of the
music the same styles
00:32:30.87\00:32:32.87
are coming into the church
00:32:32.90\00:32:34.27
and its being poured in
like the wine of Babylon.
00:32:34.30\00:32:38.17
And people hear
all kinds of music
00:32:38.20\00:32:40.16
and they just choose
to bow down and worship,
00:32:40.19\00:32:42.01
regardless of the fact,
00:32:42.04\00:32:43.44
that God's word doesn't
condone all kinds of music.
00:32:43.47\00:32:46.62
So we've let the cat
out of the bag. Okay.
00:32:46.65\00:32:50.32
We want to talk about here now,
00:32:50.35\00:32:53.77
why you're
saying into the church,
00:32:53.80\00:32:56.31
you use the word
church several times.
00:32:56.34\00:32:58.55
So let's define
why John and John--
00:32:58.58\00:33:01.59
are now talking about
Babylon being a church
00:33:01.62\00:33:05.58
because it's a woman,
okay. So let's connect this.
00:33:05.61\00:33:08.69
Go ahead. Get the docs here.
00:33:08.72\00:33:10.09
Revelation 17 which is
where we began talks about
00:33:10.12\00:33:14.61
how this great harlot
who sits on many waters,
00:33:14.64\00:33:21.77
the harlot is obviously a woman.
00:33:21.80\00:33:25.36
And it speaks of her
sitting on many waters,
00:33:25.39\00:33:30.28
committing fornication
with the kings of the earth.
00:33:30.31\00:33:32.77
There is a politico-religio
00:33:32.80\00:33:35.38
kind of a unity
here that's happening.
00:33:35.41\00:33:38.72
In the Middle East
you'd call it the theocracy.
00:33:38.75\00:33:41.78
Here we typically
call it religio-political
00:33:41.81\00:33:45.21
it's the soft word,
00:33:45.24\00:33:46.61
the soft way of saying that
00:33:46.64\00:33:48.09
politics and
religion mix just fine.
00:33:48.12\00:33:50.50
This says, that
Babylon is comprised
00:33:50.53\00:33:52.52
of those who
mixed the two. Okay.
00:33:52.55\00:33:55.19
Now going further as
it introduces this woman,
00:33:55.22\00:34:00.92
its goes down and talks about
00:34:00.95\00:34:02.32
some of the
characteristic she has.
00:34:02.35\00:34:04.00
Verse 4 one example is that,
00:34:04.03\00:34:06.90
she is arrayed in
purple and scarlet
00:34:06.93\00:34:09.01
adorn with gold and
precious stones and pearls,
00:34:09.04\00:34:11.60
she is decked
out, man, she is just,
00:34:11.63\00:34:14.50
she is decked out and
then verse 5 says, on her name,
00:34:14.53\00:34:18.09
on her forehead
a name was written
00:34:18.12\00:34:19.88
"Mystery Babylon the
Great." So that's her title.
00:34:19.91\00:34:22.48
So Babylon the great is
when we see spiritual Babylon.
00:34:22.51\00:34:26.60
We say spiritual
because its' not a city,
00:34:26.63\00:34:29.93
it's not the
old city of Babylon,
00:34:29.96\00:34:31.33
it's referring to a
woman, a harlot specifically.
00:34:31.36\00:34:34.12
In the Book of Revelation,
00:34:34.15\00:34:36.38
you have a couple of different
women that are represented.
00:34:36.41\00:34:41.56
In Chapter 12 you
see a pure woman. You do.
00:34:41.59\00:34:45.92
Beautiful, pure represents
as you go through the--
00:34:45.95\00:34:49.04
you see, representative
of God's followers
00:34:49.07\00:34:52.63
and then here you find
a corrupt woman, a harlot.
00:34:52.66\00:34:56.71
What is prophecy telling us
00:34:56.74\00:34:58.92
in comparing and
contrasting the two,
00:34:58.95\00:35:02.59
one is, both are women,
00:35:02.62\00:35:05.62
one is pure, one is a harlot.
00:35:05.65\00:35:09.36
A few scriptures here and
you may have some other ones.
00:35:09.39\00:35:12.26
The first one is
Jeremiah 6:2. Do you have--
00:35:12.29\00:35:17.31
Well, I could
turn to that, but--
00:35:17.34\00:35:18.71
Go ahead if you have
another one start here--
00:35:18.74\00:35:20.11
Let me amplify
what you're saying here
00:35:20.14\00:35:21.51
because when the
Bible talks about,
00:35:21.54\00:35:23.32
and this is once
again the Old Testament
00:35:23.35\00:35:24.93
lay so much foundation
00:35:24.96\00:35:26.33
for what's happening
in the New Testament.
00:35:26.36\00:35:27.89
There was a
prophet by the name of,
00:35:27.92\00:35:30.29
not a prophet but a
king by the name Ahab.
00:35:30.32\00:35:33.18
He married a woman
by the name of Jezebel
00:35:33.21\00:35:35.72
and this is once again
a leader of God's people
00:35:35.75\00:35:39.39
Ahab marrying a worshipper
of the God of Behal, Baal, okay.
00:35:39.42\00:35:45.93
And when they
marry together it formed
00:35:45.96\00:35:48.34
a union between corrupt,
00:35:48.37\00:35:51.20
a corrupt woman
and a spiritual man,
00:35:51.23\00:35:55.00
thereby not making
the woman spiritual
00:35:55.03\00:35:57.35
but making the man corrupt.
00:35:57.38\00:35:59.86
When you mesh
that what is spiritual
00:35:59.89\00:36:02.43
with that which is corrupt,
you don't get a pure corruption,
00:36:02.46\00:36:08.18
you get a corrupt spirituality,
00:36:08.21\00:36:13.09
you get the corrupt spiritual,
00:36:13.12\00:36:15.86
it corrupts the spiritual,
00:36:15.89\00:36:17.56
it doesn't purify
the corrupt, okay.
00:36:17.59\00:36:20.41
You have here in
Revelation 2:20, 19,
00:36:20.44\00:36:26.72
the Lord is
talking about fire attire,
00:36:26.75\00:36:29.70
what that church went
through and this by the way was,
00:36:29.73\00:36:33.06
this is showing
how the corruption got
00:36:33.09\00:36:35.79
into the churches says,
verse 20 of Revelation 2.
00:36:35.82\00:36:41.57
"Nevertheless I have a
few things against you,
00:36:41.60\00:36:44.37
because you allow
that woman Jezebel,
00:36:44.40\00:36:47.58
who calls herself a prophetess,
00:36:47.61\00:36:50.14
to teach and beguile My servants
to commit sexual immorality
00:36:50.17\00:36:55.00
and eat things
sacrificed to idols.
00:36:55.03\00:36:58.23
And I gave her time to
repent of her sexual immorality,
00:36:58.26\00:37:01.82
and she did not
repent." And then He says.
00:37:01.85\00:37:04.97
"Indeed I will
cast her into a sickbed,
00:37:05.00\00:37:07.00
and those who commit adultery
with her into great tribulation,
00:37:07.03\00:37:11.37
unless they
repent of their deeds.
00:37:11.40\00:37:14.20
I will kill her
children with death,
00:37:14.23\00:37:16.17
and all the
churches shall know that
00:37:16.20\00:37:19.31
I am He who searches
the minds and hearts.
00:37:19.34\00:37:22.44
And will give to each one of
you according to your works."
00:37:22.47\00:37:26.96
So when we talked
about the church that woman,
00:37:26.99\00:37:29.30
that corrupt woman
that's what Revelation 17
00:37:29.33\00:37:32.33
is talking about
that corrupt woman,
00:37:32.36\00:37:34.13
but now you want to show
us the picture in Jeremiah,
00:37:34.16\00:37:36.29
am I correct? Yes.
00:37:36.32\00:37:37.72
Let's go to Jeremiah.
00:37:37.75\00:37:39.12
And I mention Jeremiah 6 here,
00:37:39.15\00:37:41.09
but just to kind of
give you some background,
00:37:41.12\00:37:45.38
Jeremiah 3, let start
with verse 1 there. All right.
00:37:45.41\00:37:50.02
And this is God
speaking to His people,
00:37:50.05\00:37:51.84
so its council is
important for us today.
00:37:51.87\00:37:54.97
Although He's speaking to
literal Israel at that time
00:37:55.00\00:37:57.75
now spiritual
Israel is God's church.
00:37:57.78\00:38:01.97
"They say, if a
man divorces his wife
00:38:02.00\00:38:04.17
and she goes from him
and becomes another man's,
00:38:04.20\00:38:07.27
may he return to her again?
00:38:07.30\00:38:09.36
Would not that land
be greatly polluted?
00:38:09.39\00:38:11.74
But you have played the
harlot with many lovers;
00:38:11.77\00:38:15.14
yet return to me? Says the Lord.
00:38:15.17\00:38:17.55
Lift up your eyes to the
desolate heights and see;
00:38:17.58\00:38:21.35
where have you
not lain with men?
00:38:21.38\00:38:24.86
By the road you
have sat for them
00:38:24.89\00:38:26.44
like an Arabian
in the wilderness;
00:38:26.47\00:38:28.02
And you have polluted the land
00:38:28.05\00:38:29.42
with your
harlotries and your wickedness.
00:38:29.45\00:38:31.87
Therefore the
showers have been withheld,
00:38:31.90\00:38:33.92
and there has
been no latter rain,
00:38:33.95\00:38:35.97
and you have a
harlot's forehead,"
00:38:36.00\00:38:39.29
What is that.
"Refused to be ashamed.
00:38:39.32\00:38:42.86
Will you not from
this time cry to me,
00:38:42.89\00:38:46.74
My father, you are
my guide of my youth?
00:38:46.77\00:38:49.32
Will he remain angry forever,
will he keep it to the end?'
00:38:49.35\00:38:52.36
Behold, you have spoken and done
evil things as you are able."
00:38:52.39\00:38:56.21
In other words, God
allowed them to make decisions,
00:38:56.24\00:38:58.84
to make choices, John,
00:38:58.87\00:39:00.24
but he clearly as
they made those choices
00:39:00.27\00:39:04.18
to fall away
from him and practice
00:39:04.21\00:39:06.49
those things that were unholy,
00:39:06.52\00:39:08.16
that were defiled, that
were from the other nations.
00:39:08.19\00:39:10.67
He spoke to them as a harlot,
00:39:10.70\00:39:14.34
His people were committing
harlotry. That's right.
00:39:14.37\00:39:17.68
So in that context
when we read in Jeremiah 6:2
00:39:17.71\00:39:23.62
"I have likened
the daughter of Zion
00:39:23.65\00:39:25.16
to a lovely and delicate woman."
00:39:25.19\00:39:26.83
He is giving the example
00:39:26.86\00:39:28.23
of what he wants his
children to be. That's right.
00:39:28.26\00:39:30.49
Pure and holy, not the harlot,
00:39:30.52\00:39:33.58
but let's not mistaken this.
00:39:33.61\00:39:35.41
In these cases they both
on the outward appearance
00:39:35.44\00:39:39.72
to a degree, believed they spoke
as if they belong to God. Okay.
00:39:39.75\00:39:46.87
Whether they are
playing the harlot
00:39:46.90\00:39:48.29
or whether they
were following God
00:39:48.32\00:39:49.88
in a pure way
they still look to Him.
00:39:49.91\00:39:53.06
In the verse we just
read from Jeremiah 3,
00:39:53.09\00:39:55.33
He said won't you
come crying back to me,
00:39:55.36\00:39:57.40
even though you are backsliding,
00:39:57.43\00:39:58.80
won't you come cry out to me
every time you get in trouble
00:39:58.83\00:40:00.79
you come cry out to me.
00:40:00.82\00:40:02.72
Well, this is what we're saying.
00:40:02.75\00:40:04.12
So spiritual Babylon
we're talking about the harlot,
00:40:04.15\00:40:07.03
it represents a
church, it looks like a church,
00:40:07.06\00:40:11.80
it looks like it
follows God, but its not,
00:40:11.83\00:40:14.02
its practicing the things that
are not of God. That's right.
00:40:14.05\00:40:18.13
And very wonderful
parallel you find also Jeremiah
00:40:18.16\00:40:21.96
brings out other
elements of Babylon
00:40:21.99\00:40:24.56
and this is going to become
more pointed and specifically
00:40:24.59\00:40:29.44
because you need
to know whether or not
00:40:29.47\00:40:31.26
where you are is not
where God want you to be
00:40:31.29\00:40:34.30
and that's what the whole
purpose of this program is,
00:40:34.33\00:40:37.64
so let people know that
God has people everywhere
00:40:37.67\00:40:40.97
Revelation 18:1
to 4 that's a call,
00:40:41.00\00:40:43.09
I want to lead
into this by the way,
00:40:43.12\00:40:45.64
I want to just mention that,
00:40:45.67\00:40:47.37
that Revelation 18:4 has
come out of her my people.
00:40:47.40\00:40:51.73
So the clear element just like
the Hebrews were in Babylon,
00:40:51.76\00:40:55.11
God has people
nowadays in spiritual Babylon,
00:40:55.14\00:40:58.62
spiritual because the
literal Babylon doesn't exist,
00:40:58.65\00:41:01.67
the literal place where Babylon
existed does not exist today,
00:41:01.70\00:41:05.17
yet these elements
that we're pointing out
00:41:05.20\00:41:08.24
do exist in Christendom
00:41:08.27\00:41:10.33
and so that's
what Satan's attempt
00:41:10.36\00:41:11.86
was to pollute the
woman, to make her a harlot.
00:41:11.89\00:41:16.92
She has daughters also,
and that's the other thing
00:41:16.95\00:41:18.82
that Revelation 17
points out, not just the mother,
00:41:18.85\00:41:22.22
but if she is a
mother of the abominations
00:41:22.25\00:41:25.18
and the harlots of the earth.
00:41:25.21\00:41:26.58
In other words her
filthiness, her corruption,
00:41:26.61\00:41:29.38
her adultery that is
her dishonor to the true God
00:41:29.41\00:41:32.86
is prevalent in so
many avenues of worship,
00:41:32.89\00:41:35.70
but the one thing that is common
00:41:35.73\00:41:37.55
that God still hasn't overlook
00:41:37.58\00:41:39.76
is a fact that His
people are still there.
00:41:39.79\00:41:43.21
Right, which is the
call to come out from--
00:41:43.24\00:41:45.36
Which is the call to come out,
00:41:45.39\00:41:47.23
you know, the
Babylon was a corrupt city,
00:41:47.26\00:41:49.20
but His people were
there, they were held captive,
00:41:49.23\00:41:51.97
they were held in
bondage to the ways
00:41:52.00\00:41:54.53
and the teachings of Babylon,
and that's happening today.
00:41:54.56\00:41:57.70
Lot of Christians are
held in bondage to the people
00:41:57.73\00:42:00.18
in the ways of corrupt things,
00:42:00.21\00:42:03.32
immoral things
in some movements.
00:42:03.35\00:42:05.71
John, let me talk
about some of these things,
00:42:05.74\00:42:07.11
let me just make
some comparison here
00:42:07.14\00:42:08.95
because I want
to read this first,
00:42:08.98\00:42:10.53
but I don't want to read
it before I make this point.
00:42:10.56\00:42:14.54
And we talked about sexual
immorality in this program,
00:42:14.57\00:42:16.45
so this fits
right now and this shows
00:42:16.48\00:42:18.70
an element of
Babylon sexual immorality,
00:42:18.73\00:42:20.82
the woman the perversion there.
00:42:20.85\00:42:22.52
When churches
began ordaining people
00:42:22.55\00:42:26.08
that are living
sexually immoral lives
00:42:26.11\00:42:29.55
and put them in the
positions of leadership.
00:42:29.58\00:42:32.78
There are some churches today
that have openly gay clergy,
00:42:32.81\00:42:38.44
practicing that lifestyle
and they are leading out
00:42:38.47\00:42:42.12
in these churches that is a
symbol of spiritual Babylon.
00:42:42.15\00:42:48.71
That is just, I
mean, sexual immorality
00:42:48.74\00:42:51.89
is what we are told to flee,
00:42:51.92\00:42:53.29
but then when you have a person
practicing that lifestyle,
00:42:53.32\00:42:55.73
but let's not
leave that all by itself,
00:42:55.76\00:42:58.37
if you have clergy that having,
00:42:58.40\00:43:00.50
if you have men clergy that
having multiple relationships
00:43:00.53\00:43:04.17
and not being
true to the one wife
00:43:04.20\00:43:06.45
that's the similar thing here.
00:43:06.48\00:43:08.23
But one of the examples
00:43:08.26\00:43:09.90
that you're
getting here in the Bible,
00:43:09.93\00:43:11.38
is this woman Jezebel,
00:43:11.41\00:43:12.90
who that's her
whole life is identified,
00:43:12.93\00:43:15.37
very few people I know nowadays.
00:43:15.40\00:43:17.28
And I said this
once when somebody
00:43:17.31\00:43:18.68
wrote me a letter and said
00:43:18.71\00:43:20.08
they actually did
named their daughter Jezebel.
00:43:20.11\00:43:21.72
And I thought to
myself unbelievable,
00:43:21.75\00:43:23.26
why would you do that
00:43:23.29\00:43:24.66
when you think about
what is connected to.
00:43:24.69\00:43:26.28
But there's a very few people
has a little girl and say,
00:43:26.31\00:43:28.52
oh, you know, she is so pretty,
00:43:28.55\00:43:30.32
I want to call her Jezebel.
00:43:30.35\00:43:31.97
That name just doesn't
have a good connotation
00:43:32.00\00:43:33.82
connected to it at all.
00:43:33.85\00:43:35.25
So what's happening nowadays
is wherever sexual immorality
00:43:35.28\00:43:38.86
is reigning in the leadership
then you're in a place where--
00:43:38.89\00:43:43.33
there are those Babylonian
practices have entered
00:43:43.36\00:43:45.87
into in this very careful.
00:43:45.90\00:43:48.23
But here's what Jeremiah
also points out about Babylon,
00:43:48.26\00:43:50.82
that I want to get to right now.
00:43:50.85\00:43:53.38
Jeremiah 51:47, Jeremiah 51:47.
00:43:53.41\00:44:00.55
Because you have to be
able to identify these elements
00:44:00.58\00:44:03.84
because they are not
all packaged together
00:44:03.87\00:44:05.46
neatly into one package,
00:44:05.49\00:44:06.86
here the
Babylonian identification kit.
00:44:06.89\00:44:09.71
But look at verse 47.
Read that for us, John.
00:44:09.74\00:44:13.13
"Therefore behold,
the days are coming.
00:44:13.16\00:44:15.72
That I will bring judgment
on the carved images of Babylon;
00:44:15.75\00:44:19.40
Her whole land shall be ashamed,
00:44:19.43\00:44:21.54
And all her slain
shall fall in her midst."
00:44:21.57\00:44:24.42
Now get what that
says, carved images.
00:44:24.45\00:44:28.41
We were just in
Russia, few months ago.
00:44:28.44\00:44:33.25
And we went to
some of the temples
00:44:33.28\00:44:36.56
that are there in
Russia and we walked in
00:44:36.59\00:44:41.05
and saw images
abounding to many to count.
00:44:41.08\00:44:46.23
We saw--people
came in and depending on
00:44:46.26\00:44:51.73
whatever they
came in to pray about,
00:44:51.76\00:44:54.47
they would kiss the picture
00:44:54.50\00:44:57.58
and they would light a
candle in front of the picture
00:44:57.61\00:44:59.58
that best represented the
thing they wanted to pray about.
00:44:59.61\00:45:02.23
And if you look at the walls
00:45:02.26\00:45:04.00
from the walls left
right center ceiling
00:45:04.03\00:45:06.95
pictures of all
different kinds of
00:45:06.98\00:45:09.10
and they said these
are the Gods they pray to.
00:45:09.13\00:45:14.05
These are the
images they pray to,
00:45:14.08\00:45:17.47
because that's how they
believe they're suppose to pray,
00:45:17.50\00:45:22.05
that's what has been said
in this particular passage.
00:45:22.08\00:45:24.76
Image worship, remember
now where did you get that
00:45:24.79\00:45:27.07
from first of all thou
shalt not make unto thee
00:45:27.10\00:45:28.52
any graven images,
00:45:28.55\00:45:30.30
that's before the
people of God were in Babylon,
00:45:30.33\00:45:32.35
they were let out
of Egypt is also there.
00:45:32.38\00:45:34.61
But on the plain
of Dura in Babylon
00:45:34.64\00:45:39.51
Nebuchadnezzar was trying
to get the Hebrews to bow down
00:45:39.54\00:45:42.15
and worship an
image, a carved image.
00:45:42.18\00:45:46.31
So if you are
part of a fellowship
00:45:46.34\00:45:48.44
where carved
images are worshiped
00:45:48.47\00:45:51.23
that is the symbol of
the existence of a worship
00:45:51.26\00:45:56.22
that is not authorized by God.
00:45:56.25\00:45:58.15
Its Babylonian
worship, its to be avoided
00:45:58.18\00:46:02.42
and I know and I say this
with an element of heavy heart,
00:46:02.45\00:46:07.69
a lot of my family
members are part of a faith
00:46:07.72\00:46:10.71
that they have so many images
00:46:10.74\00:46:12.81
and what I learned
also over in Russia
00:46:12.84\00:46:14.96
is there was a large
picture, they had a picture
00:46:14.99\00:46:17.17
and I was wondering what is that
picture was a large a woman,
00:46:17.20\00:46:20.70
a picture of a woman she was
a larger part of the picture,
00:46:20.73\00:46:24.05
but there were very,
very small part of the picture
00:46:24.08\00:46:26.34
was a smaller
image and they say,
00:46:26.37\00:46:28.33
well, in that church
Mary is seen as supreme
00:46:28.36\00:46:31.74
and Jesus is being
seen as subject to her,
00:46:31.77\00:46:35.09
another symbol of
Babylonian worship.
00:46:35.12\00:46:40.47
You know, as we're
talking more and more,
00:46:40.50\00:46:42.65
we don't want to single
anybody out in this program.
00:46:42.68\00:46:45.03
It's just the
purpose of revealing now
00:46:45.06\00:46:47.64
spiritual Babylon is a church,
00:46:47.67\00:46:49.93
a system that is
promoting very ungodly practices
00:46:49.96\00:46:55.32
and calling them Christianity.
00:46:55.35\00:46:57.97
It just doesn't
spill from one entity down,
00:46:58.00\00:47:01.50
but this harlot has daughters,
00:47:01.53\00:47:03.48
it is filtered
everywhere around the world,
00:47:03.51\00:47:05.35
we're seeing rampant cases
00:47:05.38\00:47:06.85
of spiritual
Babylon in this world.
00:47:06.88\00:47:10.15
And to maybe find
some of those things
00:47:10.18\00:47:13.27
that are
represented within Babylon.
00:47:13.30\00:47:16.04
We can go back to Revelation 17
00:47:16.07\00:47:18.66
and let's look at
some of the things
00:47:18.69\00:47:20.08
and identify some of the things
00:47:20.11\00:47:21.48
that it's pertaining
to when he's speaking now,
00:47:21.51\00:47:23.34
because Revelation 17
remember is a prophecy,
00:47:23.37\00:47:26.01
it is not literal,
00:47:26.04\00:47:27.77
its got a spiritual
application, its symbolic.
00:47:27.80\00:47:31.53
So as we look at these symbols
00:47:31.56\00:47:32.99
what are they
saying about a church,
00:47:33.02\00:47:36.83
a system that it looks
Christian, but its not.
00:47:36.86\00:47:40.07
What are they saying
about that to identify it.
00:47:40.10\00:47:41.83
Okay, Revelation 17, what verse?
00:47:41.86\00:47:43.23
Seventeen, let's go
back to verse 1. Okay.
00:47:43.26\00:47:46.30
"Come, I will show you the
judgment of the great harlot
00:47:46.33\00:47:48.84
who sits on many waters."
00:47:48.87\00:47:50.24
Obviously here we first see
that it is going to be judge,
00:47:50.27\00:47:52.92
you just read
that from Jeremiah 51,
00:47:52.95\00:47:55.00
Judgment is coming upon Babylon.
00:47:55.03\00:47:58.16
"With whom the kings
00:47:58.19\00:47:59.56
of the earth
committed fornication."
00:47:59.59\00:48:01.70
All right, so
there is a joining of,
00:48:01.73\00:48:03.89
we already mention this though,
00:48:03.92\00:48:05.29
but let's talk about it again
it's a joining of a religious
00:48:05.32\00:48:08.11
with the spiritual
practices that the Christianity
00:48:08.14\00:48:11.99
and so you have a
religio-political entity here,
00:48:12.02\00:48:16.32
one that is really
involved not just overtly,
00:48:16.35\00:48:19.39
so everybody can see, but
specially behind the scenes
00:48:19.42\00:48:21.79
and making things
happen the way they have.
00:48:21.82\00:48:24.57
In the history we know
that persecution often results
00:48:24.60\00:48:28.39
and has resulted
when the religious arm
00:48:28.42\00:48:31.24
joins with the political arm
00:48:31.27\00:48:32.64
receives the
power of the civil power
00:48:32.67\00:48:37.60
and then forces
others to worship
00:48:37.63\00:48:39.92
that has happened already
and its gonna happen again.
00:48:39.95\00:48:42.49
"The inhabitants on
earth were made drunk
00:48:42.52\00:48:44.36
with the wine of
her fornication."
00:48:44.39\00:48:45.76
Talk about that, John, I mean,
00:48:45.79\00:48:47.22
what is this made drunk?
00:48:47.25\00:48:49.21
What are they
referring to there?
00:48:49.24\00:48:50.69
You know,
imbibing whenever you--
00:48:50.72\00:48:52.86
we did a program
on communion okay,
00:48:52.89\00:48:55.78
this is really interesting.
00:48:55.81\00:48:57.18
Communion, you know,
when you partake of the wine
00:48:57.21\00:48:59.58
which is unfermented, but
in the Paganistic practices
00:48:59.61\00:49:04.86
the wine was fermented actually
it was fermented in some cases
00:49:04.89\00:49:08.71
actual alcohol was introduced,
00:49:08.74\00:49:11.15
but it was fermented fruit.
00:49:11.18\00:49:12.96
It had come to the point
where its start to turn into
00:49:12.99\00:49:16.77
that which can inebriate you,
00:49:16.80\00:49:18.36
it can cause you to be drunk.
00:49:18.39\00:49:20.20
And so they said
whenever this was participated
00:49:20.23\00:49:23.27
in by those who
were dedicated to God
00:49:23.30\00:49:26.02
that's where
the inebriation came
00:49:26.05\00:49:27.64
and that's where
they were made drunk.
00:49:27.67\00:49:29.81
So what happens
nowadays as you see
00:49:29.84\00:49:31.37
that this wine that's
coming, you know, the teachings,
00:49:31.40\00:49:34.20
teachings that are throwing
the ability of God's people
00:49:34.23\00:49:40.84
to discern between right
and wrong is being impaired.
00:49:40.87\00:49:45.69
The ability to understand truth
from error is being impaired,
00:49:45.72\00:49:50.30
because when a person
is drunk the one thing
00:49:50.33\00:49:51.90
that he or she cannot
do is walk a straight line.
00:49:51.93\00:49:55.59
The one thing that he or she
cannot do is stand up firmly,
00:49:55.62\00:49:59.27
and so what's happening
here is the Christian mind
00:49:59.30\00:50:02.18
this is why the Bible says
00:50:02.21\00:50:03.58
be transform by the
renewing of your mind.
00:50:03.61\00:50:07.72
A mind is set
free when truth enters,
00:50:07.75\00:50:10.54
the entrance of
your word brings light,
00:50:10.57\00:50:13.15
when truth enters the
mind then all the sudden
00:50:13.18\00:50:15.39
what people could
not discern in darkness
00:50:15.42\00:50:17.85
were under the point of
being inebriated or drunk,
00:50:17.88\00:50:20.68
they began to now see clearly
00:50:20.71\00:50:22.40
that's what the
Babylonian system has done
00:50:22.43\00:50:24.64
truths and teaching that exist
00:50:24.67\00:50:26.34
that are not in
harmony with God's word,
00:50:26.37\00:50:28.18
but the people are so drunk that
you can't tell them otherwise,
00:50:28.21\00:50:32.23
because they cannot discern
between light and darkness,
00:50:32.26\00:50:35.54
between truth and error.
00:50:35.57\00:50:36.94
So let's just take
this the obvious conclusion.
00:50:36.97\00:50:39.89
One of the things
that Babylon had done
00:50:39.92\00:50:42.37
was they had
polluted the position
00:50:42.40\00:50:44.79
of the work of the priest
00:50:44.82\00:50:46.99
and they had
profane the Sabbath of God,
00:50:47.02\00:50:49.34
they made no difference
between the holy and the unholy,
00:50:49.37\00:50:53.45
they profane the
Sabbath of the Lord.
00:50:53.48\00:50:56.12
So what happen today in
the churches of the world
00:50:56.15\00:50:58.47
where you find the true
Sabbath of God being profaned
00:50:58.50\00:51:01.80
and a new day been
establishing his place
00:51:01.83\00:51:04.03
that's a symbol of
the wine of Babylon.
00:51:04.06\00:51:06.44
But what I want to
add to what John mentioned
00:51:06.47\00:51:08.15
a moment ago is not the
singling out of individuals,
00:51:08.18\00:51:11.01
because the
majority of my family
00:51:11.04\00:51:12.41
is still a part of a fellowship
00:51:12.44\00:51:14.26
that honors
many of these things.
00:51:14.29\00:51:16.54
That's why I mentioned earlier
00:51:16.57\00:51:18.12
the Lord isn't looking at
the destruction of the system,
00:51:18.15\00:51:21.53
but the rescue of the people.
00:51:21.56\00:51:23.94
He is saying to
them come out of her
00:51:23.97\00:51:25.45
my people
that's the key element.
00:51:25.48\00:51:27.87
You want to add
something to that, John?
00:51:27.90\00:51:29.42
Well, I was just kind
of connect here this wine,
00:51:29.45\00:51:31.76
you know, what is this wine
the prophet Micah speaks of this
00:51:31.79\00:51:36.39
and its
interesting in Micah 2:10,
00:51:36.42\00:51:42.46
it just so perfectly fits.
00:51:42.49\00:51:44.81
Look at Micah 2:10 and 11. Okay.
00:51:44.84\00:51:47.39
Arise and depart.
00:51:47.42\00:51:48.94
In other words, the Lord
is saying get out of here.
00:51:48.97\00:51:50.73
Get up and get out of her.
00:51:50.76\00:51:52.13
Get out of here.
00:51:52.16\00:51:53.53
In other words, come
out of her, my people.
00:51:53.56\00:51:55.91
Arise and depart.
00:51:55.94\00:51:57.31
For this is not your rest.
00:51:57.34\00:52:00.60
Now we can do that
with the allotted one,
00:52:00.63\00:52:02.94
day of rest. That's right.
00:52:02.97\00:52:04.54
"Because it is
defiled it shall destroy
00:52:04.57\00:52:06.95
yes with utter destruction.
00:52:06.98\00:52:09.34
If a man should
walk in a false spirit"
00:52:09.37\00:52:11.63
And this is really a key here.
00:52:11.66\00:52:13.35
"If a man should
walk in a false spirit
00:52:13.38\00:52:15.12
and speak a lie, saying,
00:52:15.15\00:52:17.37
'I will prophesy to
you of wine and drink,"
00:52:17.40\00:52:21.01
Which Chapter you're in.
00:52:21.04\00:52:22.41
Micah 2:10 and
11. Okay, got you.
00:52:22.44\00:52:24.12
"I will prophesy you
of wine and strong drink,
00:52:24.15\00:52:26.52
Even he would be the
prattler of this people."
00:52:26.55\00:52:30.70
"I will surely
assemble all of you,
00:52:30.73\00:52:32.33
O Jacob, I will surely
gather the remnant of Israel;"
00:52:32.36\00:52:35.27
we're in spiritual Israel now.
00:52:35.30\00:52:37.53
"I will put them
together like sheep of the fold,
00:52:37.56\00:52:39.54
or like a flock in the
midst of their pasture;
00:52:39.57\00:52:42.34
They shall make a loud noise
because of so many people."
00:52:42.37\00:52:44.72
What is that loud
noise? The loud cry.
00:52:44.75\00:52:47.19
That's right, that's right.
00:52:47.22\00:52:48.59
You have this prophecy
is exactly what is about
00:52:48.62\00:52:51.11
to take place or
what is it taking place
00:52:51.14\00:52:53.02
even right now. That's right.
00:52:53.05\00:52:54.50
But the connection I
want you to notice here
00:52:54.53\00:52:56.20
is the fact that
when a man speaks falsity,
00:52:56.23\00:52:59.61
false prophecies
even lying teachings,
00:52:59.64\00:53:03.41
that's when they are
causing people to get drunk
00:53:03.44\00:53:06.70
because they're
prophesying of wine and drink.
00:53:06.73\00:53:09.26
So when it says that
Babylon is getting people drunk
00:53:09.29\00:53:12.86
with the wine of her
fornication it is her teachings.
00:53:12.89\00:53:15.47
That's right,
that's clearly what it is.
00:53:15.50\00:53:17.15
They are drunk of
the teachings and in fact
00:53:17.18\00:53:19.35
so much so that they can't
discern even what is truth.
00:53:19.38\00:53:22.01
And, you know, John,
what's amazing nowadays
00:53:22.04\00:53:23.54
is when people
start to come into
00:53:23.57\00:53:24.94
an understanding of the truth.
00:53:24.97\00:53:26.83
It is so strange
when a person is--
00:53:26.86\00:53:29.48
the phrase we could
use is being detoxed,
00:53:29.51\00:53:32.49
you know, these facilities
where people go and get detoxed,
00:53:32.52\00:53:35.87
they go through withdrawals,
00:53:35.90\00:53:37.27
you know, the body
respond in a very strange way,
00:53:37.30\00:53:39.79
those strange reactions
that the body is manifesting
00:53:39.82\00:53:43.35
is the body readjusting itself,
00:53:43.38\00:53:44.81
not the body going
against its natural use,
00:53:44.84\00:53:46.98
but the body is
purifying itself.
00:53:47.01\00:53:49.48
So if you're in the
study of that which is truth
00:53:49.51\00:53:53.20
and you've never seen it before,
00:53:53.23\00:53:55.39
it will cause you to
adjust in a great degree and,
00:53:55.42\00:53:59.97
but hang in there
with it and you will find
00:54:00.00\00:54:02.16
as time goes on those
things that you could not see.
00:54:02.19\00:54:04.71
Some people say, I can't see
00:54:04.74\00:54:06.11
how the Sabbath
can make a difference.
00:54:06.14\00:54:07.67
I can't see what the
difference is between
00:54:07.70\00:54:09.07
whether it's an eternal
hell or not an eternal hell,
00:54:09.10\00:54:10.84
what difference does it make.
00:54:10.87\00:54:12.29
What difference does it
make where the people dying
00:54:12.32\00:54:13.85
go straight to
heaven or they die
00:54:13.88\00:54:15.25
and wait till Jesus
comes, what difference does it.
00:54:15.28\00:54:16.65
They can't see that's
the key element there.
00:54:16.68\00:54:19.54
They cannot see,
their eyes have been skewed
00:54:19.57\00:54:23.74
by the wine that has been
introduced into their minds.
00:54:23.77\00:54:28.32
And, you know, what happens
when the mind is introduced
00:54:28.35\00:54:31.74
when there is any kind of
off kiltering drug introduced
00:54:31.77\00:54:36.64
into the mind you
cannot differentiate
00:54:36.67\00:54:38.78
between the holy and the unholy,
00:54:38.81\00:54:40.82
the profane and that
which is blessed by God,
00:54:40.85\00:54:43.54
you cannot differentiate.
00:54:43.57\00:54:46.64
They could probably
should end here by talking about
00:54:46.67\00:54:50.01
who this beast is connected to,
00:54:50.04\00:54:51.54
because in verse
3, it says clearly
00:54:51.57\00:54:54.62
that she was
sitting on a scarlet beast
00:54:54.65\00:54:56.29
and that scarlet
beast is connected
00:54:56.32\00:54:57.79
back in Revelation 12 to Satan
and his kingdom. That's right.
00:54:57.82\00:55:03.59
So we clearly
know that this harlot
00:55:03.62\00:55:05.90
is not linked
with God at all. No.
00:55:05.93\00:55:09.62
She is arrayed in
purple and scarlet
00:55:09.65\00:55:11.27
adorn with
golden precious pearls
00:55:11.30\00:55:15.22
having in her hand a
golden cup full of abominations
00:55:15.25\00:55:18.65
and filthiness
of her fornication.
00:55:18.68\00:55:21.09
Anyway even what she
wears and how she appears,
00:55:21.12\00:55:26.22
red, scarlet the
colors and all those things,
00:55:26.25\00:55:29.35
one color is
missing. Blue. Blue.
00:55:29.38\00:55:33.81
Yet if you look at
the priesthood of God
00:55:33.84\00:55:37.75
in the Old Testament
repeatedly you'll find blue,
00:55:37.78\00:55:41.36
woven in through their tassels
other parts of the thing,
00:55:41.39\00:55:44.37
what is a blue symbolic of?
00:55:44.40\00:55:46.58
Representing the law of God.
00:55:46.61\00:55:47.98
The law of God.
00:55:48.01\00:55:49.38
So it is absent
God's law. That's right.
00:55:49.41\00:55:52.23
And so you have all these things
00:55:52.26\00:55:53.63
that makeup this spiritual
Babylonian system here.
00:55:53.66\00:55:57.86
And I think if we
were to conclude on that
00:55:57.89\00:55:59.44
we'd have to say
that truth is important
00:55:59.47\00:56:04.49
to follow God and
to obey what He says
00:56:04.52\00:56:07.72
from front page to
back page is important.
00:56:07.75\00:56:11.50
Finding what's
right in your own eyes,
00:56:11.53\00:56:13.54
doing what you think is okay,
00:56:13.57\00:56:15.58
what is it
Deuteronomy 29:19 or something
00:56:15.61\00:56:19.73
did what's right in
their own eyes. Right.
00:56:19.76\00:56:21.89
You know, that kind of mentality
00:56:21.92\00:56:23.94
is a spiritual
Babylon mentality. Right.
00:56:23.97\00:56:26.51
It's the mentality that
ends only in destruction.
00:56:26.54\00:56:29.39
Search the scriptures,
find out what God says
00:56:29.42\00:56:32.19
and follow it
with all your heart.
00:56:32.22\00:56:33.69
Don't let anybody talk
into, it doesn't matter.
00:56:33.72\00:56:35.80
It does matter, it
really does matter.
00:56:35.83\00:56:37.20
It matters, it
absolutely matters,
00:56:37.23\00:56:39.86
I don't find anywhere in
scriptures where God says,
00:56:39.89\00:56:41.74
you know what,
that doesn't matter,
00:56:41.77\00:56:43.14
find me one spot
where it doesn't matter?
00:56:43.17\00:56:45.56
That's why we have
the word it matters.
00:56:45.59\00:56:47.68
And you know what, you
have to look at the fellowship
00:56:47.71\00:56:49.54
that you are part of in.
00:56:49.57\00:56:50.94
We could start naming them,
but, you know, this is so broad,
00:56:50.97\00:56:53.56
it doesn't just link itself
00:56:53.59\00:56:54.96
to just one kind of
spiritual fellowship nowadays,
00:56:54.99\00:56:57.93
spiritual make sure its
based on the word of God,
00:56:57.96\00:57:00.95
make sure that what
you're asked to believe,
00:57:00.98\00:57:02.74
and to follow, and to teach,
00:57:02.77\00:57:04.14
and to live by is solidly
00:57:04.17\00:57:06.03
not omitting
anything that Lord says.
00:57:06.06\00:57:08.42
Its not omitting the Sabbath,
00:57:08.45\00:57:09.82
its not omitting
His Ten Commandments,
00:57:09.85\00:57:11.24
its not teaching that
people die and go to heaven,
00:57:11.27\00:57:13.47
its not teaching an
eternally burning hell,
00:57:13.50\00:57:15.10
these all remnants of teaching
that came out of the dark ages
00:57:15.13\00:57:18.68
through the great
spiritual formation of Babylon
00:57:18.71\00:57:22.04
that has inhabited
the churches today.
00:57:22.07\00:57:24.22
Here at House Call, we believe
00:57:24.25\00:57:25.62
that Lord is coming
back one day to call us home.
00:57:25.65\00:57:27.50
We want to be ready for that,
00:57:27.53\00:57:29.03
the call to come out of
Babylon is being preached today.
00:57:29.06\00:57:31.45
May God move upon your
heart to respond. God bless you.
00:57:31.48\00:57:35.35