Hello, friends. Grab your Bible
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and a friend and
sit back as we explore
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God's word together on
this edition of House Calls.
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Welcome to another
edition of House Calls,
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today we're so glad
that you've chosen to tune in
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and I may need a
House Call today,
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I'm getting a little cold here.
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So you guys if I sniffle
at all that's not because
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you're making me
cry that's because
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I'm excited about the program.
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And anyway, thank
you for joining us,
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get your family together,
get your friends together.
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Hit the record
button, get your Bibles,
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your pens and join John
and John in the hot seat.
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Yes. So, you--
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That feel bad,
that's just never fun
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to do programs when
you're not feeling well.
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That's all you've to say is yes.
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No, I'm saying I'm
thinking about you, man.
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You buddy, come on,
you're not feeling good.
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Yeah, it's true. It takes away,
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it takes a bit to click here.
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So, the Lord will
bless though I'm sure.
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It's just getting
started so you know
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we're not in a
critical stages yet,
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so I think I
can make it through.
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We have a very
understanding audience.
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Thank you for
being understanding.
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We've Bible
questions as you know,
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it's always the
first part of our program.
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Second part we're
gonna be winding up today
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on the topic I think
maybe one more program,
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entitled why so
many denominations.
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Hopefully we've maybe
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encourage you to
go back and study.
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But if questions
have come to your mind
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will give an opportunity
later on in the program
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to get the address so that
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you can send us those questions.
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But before we do
anything we always like to pray.
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So, John, would
you pray for us today?
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I'll be happy to. Dear Father,
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we are needing more of
your grace through this morning
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and so we submit
ourselves to you,
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Lord, and we just
ask that you should be
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very close to each one of us.
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Especially John as he
is not feeling well today.
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But Lord be with our words,
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be with everything that
we talk about here today,
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everything we are studying.
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And be with each of our viewers
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and our listeners, Lord.
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They are a big
part of this program
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and I just pray
that you would bless them
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especially as
well, in Jesus name Amen.
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As you know we
have Bible questions,
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whenever you want
to send them to us,
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you can send them
to our Internet address
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which if you've been
before, it's housecalls@3abn.org
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that's housecalls@3abn.org.
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Thank you so much
for being faithful
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and sending questions
and you know there are
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some really, really good
questions you send to us.
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Some are repeats
that is the same topic
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not the same question exactly
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and some of them
are new and challenging.
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But what do we have today,
John, for the first question.
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Yeah, I've got a
question from Rosanne
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and she appreciates our ministry
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and I think her four,
her encouraging words there,
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then she has a question here.
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She says in the
scripture of verse Mark 14:21
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about Judas who betrayed Jesus.
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It says that it would
have been good for that man
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to have never been born.
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My question is,
if there was no Judas
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then how would the crucifixion
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and the resurrection of
Jesus have been fulfilled.
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Thank you for your
answer and for your ministry.
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So thank you very much,
Rosanne from Kansas City.
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Let's take a look at
this passage that Rosanne
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is speaking of here and we
find it in Mark Chapter 14.
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I'm gonna start
reading from verse 18,
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so you can get the context here.
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It says and as they
sat and did eat Jesus said
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and this is of
course at the last supper.
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Verily, verily, I say unto you,
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one of you which
eateth with me shall betray me
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and they began to
sorrow, to be sorrowful
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and they said unto
Him one by one He said
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I another said is
it I, and he answered
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and said unto to them
it is one of the twelve
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that dipeth with me in the dish.
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The son of man indeed
goeth as it is written of him
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but woe to that Man by
whom the Son of man is betrayed,
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good word for him that,
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that man if he
had never been born.
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Well, some sobering
words and I definitely
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would not want
to have been Judas
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in any, any conceivable way.
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But the question here is
what would have happened?
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How would the crucifixion
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and the
resurrection have occurred?
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And this is something
that we simply don't know,
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I read this question because
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I thought the very same thing.
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And as I began to
contemplate in fact
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in my own mind,
what would have happened?
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Let me take it a step further,
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even let's say the Jews had
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accepted Christ
as their Messiah.
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We know that the
Church would have never been,
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would have never
begun had the Jews accepted
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Jesus as their
Messiah because He would have
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used them to
finish the work throughout
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the world to bring
salvation to all men.
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But because
they rejected Christ,
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did not accept that
mission He choose 12
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and then apostles to go
forward began the Church
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and ministered
directly to the Gentiles
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and ministering back
as well to the Jews as
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part of the world wide
gospel of Jesus Christ.
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But think about
this, okay, so if,
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if everything
had gone differently,
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let's say even the
Jews had accepted Christ
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what would have happened?
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I mean, Jesus still
needed to give His life
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as a ransom for our sins
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and to pay the
penalty for our sins.
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So, what would have happened?
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You know, I can
only speculate on this
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and this is
definitely my opinion, John but,
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you know, the
other what you say,
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the other co-horde of it,
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the one's that helped
crucify Christ were the Romans.
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And it very well
could have been at the Jews
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had accepted
Christ as their Messiah
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they would have
been quite an uprising
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and I'm sure the Romans
would have found a way to,
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to kill their King,
which would have been Christ.
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So, you could
see in that scenario
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Jesus would have
been crucified anyway.
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But even in the
scenario of Judas
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had He not betrayed Christ,
someone could have easily
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betrayed Christ,
someone who could have
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come forward and caused
the events that took place
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in the, in the Calvary story.
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So, anyway I just, I
throw this out because,
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John, we don't know,
so we really don't know
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the answer to this question.
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But I think the
comment here about Jesus saying
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it would be
better that this man had
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never been born, should be
taken simply at face value.
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You know, rather
than betraying Christ,
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it would have been
better to just have
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never been
born, never been alive
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because you will have
to ultimately pay the price
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for your sins of betraying
the Son of man, the Son of God.
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Other than that,
we simply don't know.
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True, and you know you look at
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the serious situations in life,
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and Jesus also mentioned
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that if anyone offends
one of these little ones,
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it's better that a
milestone be put around
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their neck and
they thrown in the sea,
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then to a friend
one of little ones,
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when he speaks
about children he says
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allow the children to come to me
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and do not forbid them.
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But truly this is
a speculative answer,
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we don't know,
we know that He was
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going to be
betrayed, the prophecy was,
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my friend betrayed me.
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And so God in
His sovereignty saw
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well through the veil of history
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that it would happen that way.
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So, Judas wasn't randomly chosed
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but the Lord, as Isaiah 49 says,
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Isaiah 46 verse 9 and 10 it says
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declaring the end
from the beginning.
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And from ancient times
things that are not yet done
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saying I will do
all of my pleasure.
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I think that's
Isaiah 46 verse 10.
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So, the Lord sees, He saw that,
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He saw that the
Jews would betray Him,
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that was the prophecy.
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Not, not for
ordained but for, for known.
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Right and you could pretty much,
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if you stood on the
top of a building and you,
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and you saw two cars
speeding one from the west
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and one from the
south and there was no
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stop sign you could predict
what was going to happen,
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but you didn't make it happen.
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But God has far
greater ability to see
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into the future and understand
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how the tables
unfold, that's why Jesus said,
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I tell these things beforehand
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that when they do come
to pass you'll believe.
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And so that pretty much was a,
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a fulfillment of the
prophecy rather than a,
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than a setup for
Judas. Right, right.
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But I wouldn't wanna be
him and I encourage you,
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I agree with you on that one.
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Here's another
one, I am looking for
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New Testament verses
forbidding the eating of
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unclean meat,
specifically swine flesh.
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I have a concordance
it did nothing for me,
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please help, God bless
you in Jesus name, Adam.
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Thank you, Adam,
for your question.
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Let me, let me encourage you,
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when we study the
Bible, Isaiah tells us
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that we should
study it line upon line,
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line upon line,
precept upon precept,
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precept upon precept, here
a little and there a little.
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When the Bible, when
the words were written
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to Timothy by the Apostle Paul,
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which reads as follows in
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Second Timothy 3 and verse 16.
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Which says all
scriptures given by
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inspiration of God,
he was not referring
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to the New
Testament he was referring
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to the Old Testament,
because when these words
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were given there was no
New Testament but they were
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recorded later
in the New Testament
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as a reflection of the validity
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of the Old Testament.
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One of the
unfortunate things today
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and a number of
issues have come up
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where people say,
well, I don't see that--
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I don't see that
in the New Testament,
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for everything to
be in the New Testament
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that was in the Old Testament
the book would have to be
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relatively as thick as the
Old Testament but it's not.
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You don't find the
full 6 day creation story
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in the New Testament either,
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but there is no reason to reject
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the fact that the Lord created
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different things
on different days.
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You don't find a number of other
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stories in the Old
Testament, in the New Testament
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and so the
point of the matter is
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if we're looking for repeats
then the Bible pretty much
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becomes a book that's
redundant in many cases.
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The one place in the Bible
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where things are repeated is
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in the gospels
Matthew, Mark, Luke, John
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because pretty
much they experience
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a lot of the same thing.
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But let me encourage you,
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when you look at the
clean and the unclean foods
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they are verses that
will clearly say to you
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in order to understand
this you have to understand
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the Old Testament relevant.
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For example go with
me to First Corinthians,
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Chapter 3 verse 16 and 17.
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First Corinthians
Chapter 3 verse 16 and 17
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it says, "Do you not know
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that you are the temple of God"
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and in another translation,
King James Version says
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"Do you not know that
your body is the temple of God,
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and that the Spirit
of God dwells in you?
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If anyone defiles
the temple of God,
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God will destroy him
for the temple of God
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is holy, which temple you are."
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When you look at verse 17
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"If anyone defiles
the temple of God."
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You cannot help
but remember the story
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of Daniel in Daniel Chapter 1.
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When Daniel made up his
mind not to defile himself
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but the portion
of the King's meat,
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nor with the
wine which he drank.
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And so you can't
understand the verse fully here
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unless you
understand the parallel to that
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or the type,
this is the anti-type
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to that particular story.
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Going further you
have First Corinthians
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6 verse 19 and 20
says "Do you not know that
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your body is the temple of
the Holy Spirit who is in you.
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Whom you have from God
and you're not your own
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for you're brought
at a price therefore
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glorify God and your body
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and then your
spirit which are God's."
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Let me give you some examples,
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and I'm going to tip
toe here but I'm going to be
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very frank about
it, you will not find
00:12:29.42\00:12:32.77
any scriptures in the
Bible say don't smoke,
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you won't find
anything that says don't,
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don't take Quaaludes in excess,
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don't take it
acid or some of these--
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Or even drugs, no matter what--
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Drugs and period,
you don't find it saying
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forbidding the use of things
nowadays that did not exist
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then but you find the principle
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that exists in the Bible.
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And the principle is
this First Corinthians 10:31,
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"Therefore,
whether you eat or drink,
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or whatever you do, do
all to the glory of God."
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Do all to the glory of God.
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And in the book of
Ecclesiastes we find
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not Ecclesiastes
in the Book of Isaiah,
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go with me to Isaiah Chapter 66.
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Isaiah Chapter 66, we
find the scriptural injunction
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as to what would be
happening when Jesus comes?
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And how He
forbids, He talks about
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and you specifically
asked about swine flesh.
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Okay, I'm getting
there now, bear with me,
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it's not cold outside
but it sure does feel like
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my voice is just
struggling with me today
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but you're patient
so thank you very much.
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Okay, here it is.
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Isaiah 66 verse 15, 16, and 17.
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John, may be you can
help me by reading those?
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"For behold, the
LORD will come with fire
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and with His
chariots, like a whirlwind,
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to render His anger with fury,
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And His rebuke
with flames of fire.
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For by fire and by His sword
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with the Lord
plead with all flesh.
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And the slain of
the LORD shall be many.
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They that sanctify themselves
and purify themselves,
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in the gardens behind one tree
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in the midst,
eating swine's flesh
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and the
abomination and the mouse,
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shall be consumed
together, says the Lord God."
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Okay, this is the
text about the future,
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this is what's going to happen
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when the Lord comes and execute
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his vengeance by
fire and by sword.
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And you find in Revelation 19
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and Revelation talks
about out of his mouth goeth
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a sharp sword with
which He strikes the nations.
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This is future,
notice the category
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that you want to support
for not eating swine's flesh,
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it says it right there.
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Now, if you were to
look at the swine's flesh
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in a medical sense
there is only one word
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I can use for a pig, it's a pig.
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Did I say that, John?
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And if you look at
what doctors forbid people
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that, you know that
is the only animal I saw
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in poo-poo many
years ago entitled
00:15:21.57\00:15:24.13
from the tail to
the snout, that means
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from the tip of
the tail all the way
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to the pig's nose
that's the only animal
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that people eat
every single part of.
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And you wonder where all
these diseases come from.
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As a matter of fact
let me just share something
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with you, I brought
this up on the Internet here
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and that's one of my pages,
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okay it's coming up
here all right, there it is.
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Talks about the
effects and this is,
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this is what
medical doctors are saying
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about the
effects of swine flesh.
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It says, pigs
bodies contain many toxins,
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worms and latent diseases.
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Although some of
these infestations
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are harbored in other animals,
00:16:05.22\00:16:07.18
modern veterinary say
that pigs are far more
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predisposed to these
illnesses than other animals.
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This could be because pigs like,
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like to scavenge and
will eat any kind of food
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including dead insects, worms,
00:16:22.32\00:16:25.19
riding cockroaches
etc including their
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own garbage and even other pigs.
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This is the
beginning of the article,
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influenza is one of
the most famous illnesses
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which pigs share with humans.
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So, we wonder
why we have the flu?
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Pigs. Not the sole reason.
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Not the sole reason
but pigs share that with
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humans, the influenza.
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This illness is
harbored in the lungs of pigs
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during the summer
months intense to affect pigs
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and humans in the cooler months.
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That's why when we
come to the winter time,
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you know, all of a
sudden you get your flu shorts,
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well you can't
give a pig a flu short
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because that's
not gonna do anything.
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And something else you
know people eat sausages.
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Sausages contain
bits of pigs lungs,
00:17:10.89\00:17:14.96
so those who eat pork
sausages tend to suffer more
00:17:14.97\00:17:18.43
during the
epidemic of influenza.
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Pig meat contains excessive
quantities of histamine
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and imidazole compounds
which can lead to itching
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and
inflammation, growth hormones
00:17:30.66\00:17:33.03
which promotes
inflammation in growth,
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sulphur which
contains all this mucus,
00:17:35.06\00:17:38.64
it gives a medical
term, which leads to swelling
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and deposits of mucus in tendons
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and cartilage resulting in
arthritis, rheumatism and etc.
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The things that
happen in a person's body
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just because of eating a
pig are far more detrimental
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than eating any other animal,
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and the reason why
God created the pig,
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you go look at
the Old Testament,
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I think you're
aware of that because
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you're looking for
the support of the new
00:18:01.57\00:18:03.21
but if you look
at the Old Testament
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the Lord forbade the
eating of swine's flesh.
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And today, John, as
I give it back to you,
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a lot of people
think they have arthritis
00:18:09.73\00:18:12.11
when they just have pigites.
00:18:12.12\00:18:13.92
Because what happens
is the toxins from the pig
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not to be lighthearted about
this, the body can't digest it
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but it stores it
around the joints.
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And so when people
think that their you know,
00:18:23.21\00:18:25.61
they're getting older
and they have arthritis
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as a natural process of aging,
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there are some
people that they're in 90's
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that don't have arthritis.
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We know some
sanitarians and Adventists,
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among Adventists
they don't have arthritis
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because they eat clean foods
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and for the most
part they're vegetarians,
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in some cases they're vegans.
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And the principle
goes beyond even just pigs.
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Think about it, the foods that
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the Bible allows man to
eat include clean animals.
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Because those clean
animals are not eating
00:18:55.17\00:18:56.90
other animals,
they're not carnivores,
00:18:56.91\00:18:59.74
they're not scavengers.
00:18:59.75\00:19:01.47
And so the reason
why pigs are there
00:19:01.48\00:19:04.77
is because first of
all they're scavengers
00:19:04.78\00:19:06.21
but secondly they are a
list of other things here
00:19:06.22\00:19:07.93
because they're not
eating grass and leaves
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and things that are
converted into their flesh
00:19:12.40\00:19:16.45
which then we would if
we're eating clean meat
00:19:16.46\00:19:20.37
that we would be
taking into our bodies.
00:19:20.38\00:19:22.50
So, there's this principle there
00:19:22.51\00:19:24.54
and it goes even
into the fish of the sea,
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you know, don't eat lobsters
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which are the cockroaches
of the sea or shrimp.
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From other fish,
I mean, that's true.
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This is exactly what happens
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and so this is the principle
00:19:35.75\00:19:36.97
behind don't
eat what is unclean.
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Now there is
something that I take
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one exception with you on, John?
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Go for it. You're ready?
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There is no such
thing as unclean food.
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It's not even in the Bible.
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Animals are clean
or they're unclean.
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God said you can eat
for food clean animals,
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He never said
unclean animals are food.
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So, when you say we
can eat unclean foods
00:20:03.85\00:20:06.00
it's actually something
that's never in the Bible,
00:20:06.01\00:20:08.02
unclean is never food,
00:20:08.03\00:20:10.03
it's never been food
from the very beginning.
00:20:10.04\00:20:12.11
Did I say we
could eat unclean foods?
00:20:12.12\00:20:13.68
I say these are the
unclean-- No, people,
00:20:13.69\00:20:15.05
these are the unclean foods.
00:20:15.06\00:20:16.43
But the Bible doesn't
use the word unclean foods.
00:20:16.44\00:20:18.55
Right. So, I'm just joking.
00:20:18.56\00:20:20.43
I know. In just
here, but. I got you.
00:20:20.44\00:20:21.72
At the same time
we have this mentality
00:20:21.73\00:20:23.39
that these are
unclean foods, they're not,
00:20:23.40\00:20:24.75
they're unclean
animals not for food. True.
00:20:24.76\00:20:27.68
And they have never been
food from the very beginning,
00:20:27.69\00:20:30.17
from Genesis through Revelation
00:20:30.18\00:20:32.63
when you're talking about eating
00:20:32.64\00:20:34.84
the list of unclean animals
are not even on the list.
00:20:34.85\00:20:38.76
So, you don't even see whether
00:20:38.77\00:20:40.17
the Old
Testament or New Testament,
00:20:40.18\00:20:42.03
unclean foods.
It's just not there.
00:20:42.04\00:20:43.71
You know, John you
just gave me a Revelation
00:20:43.72\00:20:45.38
I appreciate that
because lot of times
00:20:45.39\00:20:47.25
people look at
these things and say,
00:20:47.26\00:20:48.78
these are
unclean or cleaned foods,
00:20:50.63\00:20:53.25
to reiterate the point if
it's unclean it's not food.
00:20:53.26\00:20:56.93
That's right. If it's clean
00:20:56.94\00:20:58.30
it was listed among
the things you can eat.
00:20:58.31\00:21:00.88
These are the things that
will always says you can eat.
00:21:00.89\00:21:03.43
Right. But the unclean
00:21:03.44\00:21:04.97
that's my sanitation department.
00:21:04.98\00:21:06.84
So, going back to
the shells, the lobster,
00:21:06.85\00:21:08.22
the crab, shrimp the
oysters, the muscles,
00:21:08.23\00:21:11.61
the octopus all
those things are just,
00:21:11.62\00:21:13.81
they're the sanitation
department of the ocean.
00:21:13.82\00:21:16.22
If there was no sanitation
department in the ocean
00:21:16.23\00:21:18.82
it will be putrefying,
00:21:18.83\00:21:20.83
these animals are
there to clean it up,
00:21:20.84\00:21:22.54
that's what God designed.
00:21:22.55\00:21:23.53
The other thing too is in
Acts verses Chapter 10, 11
00:21:23.54\00:21:26.72
we know the story of
Peter and the sheet comes down.
00:21:26.73\00:21:28.89
Good one. Full
of unclean animals.
00:21:28.90\00:21:31.47
Right. And he says take and eat
00:21:31.48\00:21:34.04
and what is Peter's response.
00:21:34.05\00:21:36.24
I've never eat
anything common or unclean.
00:21:36.25\00:21:39.12
Exactly in Acts 11 first
ate no Lord not so I've never
00:21:39.13\00:21:43.64
let anything
unclean enter my mouth.
00:21:43.65\00:21:46.83
Right. Even to that day anything
00:21:46.84\00:21:48.77
that's unclean does
not entered his mouth why?
00:21:48.78\00:21:50.79
Because it's never been food.
00:21:50.80\00:21:52.66
And that's New Testament.
00:21:52.67\00:21:54.93
That's right,
that's right. Very good.
00:21:54.94\00:21:56.72
I just want to
get that point across
00:21:56.73\00:21:58.31
because people have
this, this nomura kind of this,
00:21:58.32\00:22:01.38
this they don't really
realize what they're saying
00:22:01.39\00:22:03.58
when they're saying
unclean food, there,
00:22:03.59\00:22:04.97
there is no such
thing as unclean foods.
00:22:04.98\00:22:07.19
Right. There is unclean,
00:22:07.20\00:22:08.46
there's clean
and unclean animals.
00:22:08.47\00:22:10.68
The clean animals are
possibilities for food
00:22:10.69\00:22:13.19
the unclean animals
have never been food.
00:22:13.20\00:22:15.27
That's right,
and I like that point
00:22:15.28\00:22:16.74
you brought up
because when, when Peter said,
00:22:16.75\00:22:20.92
I've never eaten
anything common or unclean,
00:22:20.93\00:22:23.97
there's this idea,
John, that people say,
00:22:23.98\00:22:25.37
well I pray over it.
00:22:25.38\00:22:27.31
Well, why don't
you pray over cyanide
00:22:27.32\00:22:28.90
before you drink it
and see what happens.
00:22:28.91\00:22:31.74
Not being cynical
but the point of matter
00:22:31.75\00:22:34.01
is pray does not change
a direct command of God.
00:22:34.02\00:22:36.70
Prayer does not
make a pig sanctified.
00:22:36.71\00:22:39.38
Prayer does not change the
fact that it is a scavenger,
00:22:39.39\00:22:42.33
it doesn't make a difference.
00:22:42.34\00:22:44.27
Now there are some people,
00:22:44.28\00:22:45.31
I know this to be
true that they say,
00:22:45.32\00:22:47.66
well, when I clean the shrimp
00:22:47.67\00:22:50.35
I take that little
black thing out of it
00:22:50.36\00:22:53.48
and they think that that's
the only thing that's unclean.
00:22:53.49\00:22:56.21
Where the animal
itself that's unclean,
00:22:56.22\00:22:58.62
it's like saying
well you know, that,
00:22:58.63\00:23:01.35
that when we put
the thief in jail,
00:23:01.36\00:23:03.88
no we didn't put
the thief in jail
00:23:03.89\00:23:05.24
we would just put the tools
00:23:05.25\00:23:06.28
he uses to break
nto houses in jail.
00:23:06.29\00:23:08.89
Right. But he's thief you see,
00:23:08.90\00:23:11.72
and in the same way
these animals are unclean
00:23:11.73\00:23:15.10
everything about them,
00:23:15.11\00:23:16.41
that's why their shells that
are like little garbage cans,
00:23:16.42\00:23:19.73
that's why they're
not designed to eat.
00:23:19.74\00:23:21.25
So, I pray that your
desire is to glorify God
00:23:21.26\00:23:26.25
and if it is,
whether you eat or drink
00:23:26.26\00:23:28.96
or what ever you do, do
all to the glory of God,
00:23:28.97\00:23:30.81
your body doesn't belong to you
00:23:30.82\00:23:32.63
and the Lord made
that very, very clear.
00:23:32.64\00:23:34.38
Okay, yours, John.
00:23:34.39\00:23:36.30
Next question
here comes from Ben.
00:23:36.31\00:23:38.49
Two questions, both
start with what calendar?
00:23:39.81\00:23:43.17
What calendar was
Jesus using at His time
00:23:43.18\00:23:45.98
here on earth with us?
00:23:45.99\00:23:48.08
Well, we, we must
assume it's God's calendar
00:23:48.09\00:23:50.90
first of all and God's
calendar as given to the Jews
00:23:50.91\00:23:54.49
was comprised of
12, 30 day, months.
00:23:54.50\00:23:59.90
And then there was
some things added to that
00:23:59.91\00:24:01.72
to round out the
year but this calendar
00:24:01.73\00:24:04.51
that He used I am sure
was the Jewish calendar
00:24:04.52\00:24:08.28
and not necessarily
the Roman calendar that,
00:24:08.29\00:24:11.49
that was being used by
the Romans in that day.
00:24:11.50\00:24:13.83
The mind of
Christ was always on God
00:24:13.84\00:24:15.90
and what God's design
was, even the prophecies
00:24:15.91\00:24:18.98
throughout
scripture are based upon
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God's calendar 360
days to a year, 12 months,
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12 months full of
30 days each month.
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Now, the second question here
00:24:29.67\00:24:31.61
is what calendar did God
give man to keep the Sabbath?
00:24:31.62\00:24:35.11
And I think, I'm gonna try
00:24:35.12\00:24:36.25
and read into this
a little bit, John,
00:24:36.26\00:24:37.64
because there is a little
confusion out there today.
00:24:37.65\00:24:39.45
All right. About at
least a very small group
00:24:39.46\00:24:43.26
is starting to throw
out there as a possibility.
00:24:43.27\00:24:47.68
But first of
all a simple answer,
00:24:47.69\00:24:50.18
the calendar guide man to keep,
00:24:50.19\00:24:52.21
God gave man to keep the Sabbath
00:24:52.22\00:24:53.74
was the weekly cycle.
00:24:53.75\00:24:57.17
So, each of the calendars
is broken down by weeks
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if you look at your calendar,
00:25:00.17\00:25:01.14
go to your calendar you look
that there is a several weeks
00:25:01.15\00:25:04.61
in that month and each one
is broken down by seven days
00:25:04.62\00:25:07.73
and that seven days
comes from creation.
00:25:07.74\00:25:11.49
First day,
second day, third day,
00:25:11.50\00:25:13.34
up through the
seventh day which God
00:25:13.35\00:25:15.76
then blessed as the Sabbath day.
00:25:15.77\00:25:17.97
And that is
continued on even till today,
00:25:17.98\00:25:19.61
the only reason we have a week
00:25:19.62\00:25:21.68
that is seven days
long is because of creation,
00:25:21.69\00:25:24.47
there is no
solar, there is no lunar,
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there is no any kind of rotation
00:25:27.60\00:25:29.94
around the sun once a year,
there is nothing like that,
00:25:29.95\00:25:33.92
that moves us or
compels us to keep the Sabbath,
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it's only the fact that is
a creation week, seven days.
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Now, I am reading into
this, saying this, John,
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some are
actually advocating today
00:25:45.39\00:25:47.31
that the Sabbath day shifts
according to the lunar cycle.
00:25:47.32\00:25:51.42
So, in a way they keep
00:25:52.94\00:25:54.16
kind of a lunar
solar combination cycle
00:25:54.17\00:25:58.87
which is that
there is a 24 hour cycle
00:25:58.88\00:26:02.30
that follows the
rotation of the earth
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and where the sun rises and sets
00:26:05.36\00:26:07.79
and then there is a
day, the shifting of days
00:26:07.80\00:26:10.74
along with a lunar calendar
or that the moon and it's,
00:26:10.75\00:26:14.71
it's rotation or
at least it's cycle.
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And so I, I've looked
at the information on this,
00:26:17.64\00:26:23.11
I know the people are
very strong in compelling
00:26:23.12\00:26:25.51
or I would even
say confusing minds
00:26:25.52\00:26:27.59
with regard to this but
God from the very beginning
00:26:27.60\00:26:30.24
is established the weekly
cycle for keeping the Sabbath
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and never has he established
or used or causes to shift
00:26:34.22\00:26:37.20
that Sabbath according
to the moon in it's cycle.
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So, there is no
change of, you know,
00:26:40.73\00:26:42.63
there is no laws of calendar,
00:26:42.64\00:26:45.37
there is no new institution,
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I am always amazed by the fact
00:26:48.15\00:26:50.26
that if you said to
somebody we get paid on,
00:26:50.27\00:26:53.70
on the sixth day of the week,
00:26:53.71\00:26:56.05
everybody will
show up on Friday,
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do you know what it is?
00:26:58.32\00:26:59.40
It's like one of
the Sabbath happens
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people are concerned
oh! What day is that?
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Many attempts have been made
to explain the Sabbath away,
00:27:05.26\00:27:07.50
the fact of the matter is
it's still a sign between God
00:27:07.51\00:27:10.50
and His people and it
still remains sanctified
00:27:10.51\00:27:14.96
and holy to the Lord.
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So, honor the
Sabbath as you honor
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the other nine commandments.
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But you can only do
that if you love the Lord,
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thank you for your question.
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Lastly, this,
this, this one in Judges,
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John, I've to read this one.
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John and John,
Judges 11 verse 30 to 39.
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"As I understand
or as I understood
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God is against human sacrifices.
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My questions are more difficult
00:27:39.27\00:27:40.79
so obviously never
addressed by you folks.
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Okay the things we have,
00:27:43.50\00:27:44.83
we don't ask
difficult questions,
00:27:44.84\00:27:46.58
I guess that's
what I get from you,
00:27:46.59\00:27:47.71
let me read the story,
and I guess the question
00:27:47.72\00:27:49.92
is what is this all about?
00:27:49.93\00:27:52.38
Well, let me give you
a couple of things here,
00:27:52.39\00:27:55.32
the story is about Jephthah
who made a vow to the Lord,
00:27:55.33\00:28:00.84
if the Lord will deliver them,
00:28:00.85\00:28:02.81
let me just read
Judges 11verse 30,
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"And Jephthah made a
vow to the Lord, and said,
00:28:06.23\00:28:08.90
"If You will
indeed deliver the people
00:28:08.91\00:28:12.17
of Ammon into my hands,
00:28:12.18\00:28:14.07
then it will be
that whatever comes out
00:28:14.08\00:28:17.20
of the doors of
my house to meet me,
00:28:17.21\00:28:19.86
when I return in peace
from the people of Ammon,
00:28:19.87\00:28:22.99
shall surely be the LORD's,
00:28:23.00\00:28:24.69
and I will offer it
up as a burnt offering."
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Now, giving you an example
00:28:29.34\00:28:31.24
this is not the
first time in the Bible
00:28:32.33\00:28:33.98
that a burnt offering was
talked about being a human,
00:28:33.99\00:28:36.88
remember the story of Abraham,
00:28:36.89\00:28:38.39
he was willing, the Lord
says offer your son Isaac,
00:28:40.03\00:28:43.67
the Lord was willing to,
00:28:43.68\00:28:45.11
He was willing to
test Abraham in that way.
00:28:45.12\00:28:47.39
Now, was God saying
00:28:47.40\00:28:48.52
that He wants
humans to be sacrificed.
00:28:48.53\00:28:51.33
Well in the story
of Abraham and Isaac,
00:28:51.34\00:28:52.94
you noticed that
Isaac wasn't sacrificed,
00:28:52.95\00:28:55.82
the Lord provided
the Lord wanted to see
00:28:55.83\00:28:57.82
his willingness to do that.
00:28:57.83\00:29:00.18
What makes this story different
00:29:00.19\00:29:01.50
and as the story
ends he ask Jephthah
00:29:01.51\00:29:03.84
ends up sacrificing his daughter
00:29:05.07\00:29:08.44
but remember what He said
here and this is something
00:29:08.45\00:29:10.51
that so important, He
says in verse 35 at the end,
00:29:10.52\00:29:16.49
let me just cut and
read the rest of it,
00:29:16.50\00:29:18.10
He says at the very end he says,
00:29:18.11\00:29:19.73
"For I have given
my word to the Lord,
00:29:19.74\00:29:23.56
and I cannot go back on it."
00:29:23.57\00:29:27.20
In the book of
Ecclesiastics He says,
00:29:27.21\00:29:29.26
it's better not to vow
than to vow and not to pay,
00:29:29.27\00:29:33.62
do not allow your mouth
to cause your flesh to sin.
00:29:33.63\00:29:37.67
And the people of God took
that very seriously you know,
00:29:37.68\00:29:40.78
we have this phrase nowadays
or used to have this phrase,
00:29:40.79\00:29:43.27
where it goes this
way, my word is my bond.
00:29:43.28\00:29:46.30
Get yes be yes to Bible says
00:29:46.31\00:29:48.15
let your yes be
yes and your no be no,
00:29:48.16\00:29:50.14
they took that very seriously
00:29:50.15\00:29:51.53
and then also his daughter said
00:29:51.54\00:29:54.75
if you made this
agreement with God
00:29:54.76\00:29:56.48
you better go
and follow through it
00:29:56.49\00:29:57.67
because God
follow through on his,
00:29:57.68\00:30:00.76
God did deliver you from Ammon,
00:30:00.77\00:30:02.61
God did deliver the people.
00:30:02.62\00:30:04.23
And so this was more so the vow
00:30:04.24\00:30:05.82
that Jephthah made to God
00:30:05.83\00:30:08.45
and his daughter went
along with it and he ended up
00:30:08.46\00:30:10.76
sacrificing her as a
burnt offering to the Lord.
00:30:10.77\00:30:13.64
And you know what, the
Lord did not reject him.
00:30:13.65\00:30:16.13
The Lord honored his sacrifice
00:30:16.14\00:30:17.90
but the Lord was not the
one that established this,
00:30:17.91\00:30:20.23
if you look at the
rest of it here it says
00:30:20.24\00:30:22.72
in the end of verse 39.
00:30:22.73\00:30:24.17
And it became a
custom in Israel,
00:30:24.18\00:30:26.21
now what became
a custom in Israel,
00:30:26.22\00:30:28.96
the custom that was
established in Israel
00:30:28.97\00:30:30.78
was not so much the
burning of the children
00:30:30.79\00:30:33.04
because if you remember
very carefully the Lord says,
00:30:33.05\00:30:35.58
do not allow your children
to pass through the fire.
00:30:35.59\00:30:40.41
And that was the
forbidding, God was saying no,
00:30:40.42\00:30:42.59
I don't want your
children to be sacrificed.
00:30:42.60\00:30:44.71
This was an
isolated experience here
00:30:44.72\00:30:47.07
and isolated incident
that God didn't ordain
00:30:47.08\00:30:50.31
that God didn't
require but the Jephthah,
00:30:50.32\00:30:52.81
made a vow to God,
00:30:52.82\00:30:54.17
he and his
daughter were in harmony
00:30:54.18\00:30:55.65
with carrying through this.
00:30:55.66\00:30:56.78
Since God lived up to his part.
00:30:56.79\00:30:59.10
And that was
simply that's what it,
00:30:59.11\00:31:00.24
that's it was but on
the, on the bigger end.
00:31:00.25\00:31:03.81
They knew that whenever
you promise something to God.
00:31:03.82\00:31:06.80
You must follow
through on that promise
00:31:06.81\00:31:08.86
and that's why his honor
was really at stake here.
00:31:08.87\00:31:11.51
I've given God my word,
and I cannot go back on it.
00:31:11.52\00:31:14.96
And it says in Verse 39, and,
00:31:14.97\00:31:17.81
and it was so at
the end of two months,
00:31:17.82\00:31:20.22
that she returned to her father
00:31:20.23\00:31:22.08
and he carried
out his vow with her,
00:31:22.09\00:31:26.90
which he had vowed.
00:31:26.91\00:31:28.63
And so he made this vow,
00:31:28.64\00:31:30.08
and she allowed him
to carry the vow out.
00:31:30.09\00:31:32.32
The sad thing was it was
his only daughter which meant,
00:31:32.33\00:31:36.47
what happens if your
family lying right there. Yeah.
00:31:36.48\00:31:38.97
Yeah, a very sad situation
00:31:38.98\00:31:40.37
but also I think the principle,
00:31:40.38\00:31:41.64
the whole thing being taught
here is not the sacrifice.
00:31:41.65\00:31:43.99
The whole thing
being taught here
00:31:44.00\00:31:45.09
is that the vow that
we make to God is very,
00:31:45.10\00:31:47.68
very scared, it is something
00:31:47.69\00:31:49.77
that we must
follow through with.
00:31:49.78\00:31:52.23
And we find today
over and over again,
00:31:52.24\00:31:54.13
I mean you see situations where,
00:31:54.14\00:31:55.88
I hear stories where
someone has made a vow
00:31:55.89\00:31:59.10
to the Lord and
has just kind of acted
00:31:59.11\00:32:01.74
as if they had
never made that vow.
00:32:01.75\00:32:05.61
One common one,
John, as you hear people
00:32:05.62\00:32:07.59
that get into
trouble they're facing death.
00:32:07.60\00:32:09.77
And they will say Lord
00:32:09.78\00:32:11.71
if you just get
me out of this one
00:32:11.72\00:32:13.70
I will serve you
forever and I promise that.
00:32:13.71\00:32:17.68
It's a vow they made,
00:32:17.69\00:32:18.80
when we say I promise
it's like a vow being made.
00:32:18.81\00:32:22.21
And they're
saved God delivers them
00:32:22.22\00:32:25.43
and what do they do?
00:32:25.44\00:32:26.60
They just go
back to life as usual.
00:32:26.61\00:32:28.70
And I think
they're standing with God
00:32:28.71\00:32:31.23
from that point on is
worse than it had been
00:32:31.24\00:32:33.91
before they made
that vow because a vow
00:32:33.92\00:32:36.55
he will hold
them accountable for.
00:32:36.56\00:32:38.82
So, just an
important principle here.
00:32:38.83\00:32:41.03
As a matter of fact,
00:32:41.04\00:32:42.02
reads as follows.
00:32:42.03\00:32:44.53
When you make a vow to the Lord
00:32:44.54\00:32:45.75
your God you not
shall delay to pay it.
00:32:45.76\00:32:49.36
For the Lord your God
will surely require it of you
00:32:49.37\00:32:52.87
and it would be sin to you.
00:32:52.88\00:32:55.97
Lastly Ecclesiastes 5 verse
4 the verse I just eluded too.
00:32:55.98\00:33:00.30
When you make a vow to
God do not delay to pay it
00:33:00.31\00:33:02.99
for He has no pleasure in fools,
00:33:03.00\00:33:05.38
pay what you have vowed.
00:33:05.39\00:33:07.09
It is better not
to vow than to vow,
00:33:07.10\00:33:08.92
not to pay and they knew that.
00:33:08.93\00:33:10.77
So when they made that promise
00:33:10.78\00:33:12.47
it's almost
like what did I just,
00:33:12.48\00:33:14.05
what did I just say?
00:33:14.06\00:33:15.73
Whoever comes out of my house
00:33:15.74\00:33:17.13
I'm going to
sacrifice to the Lord?
00:33:17.14\00:33:19.37
Lord is my daughter
and He follow through on it
00:33:19.38\00:33:23.88
because his honor to
God was more important
00:33:23.89\00:33:26.72
than his daughter
and on top of that
00:33:26.73\00:33:30.47
he did not do against the will,
00:33:30.48\00:33:32.10
she agreed with
Him to follow through.
00:33:32.11\00:33:33.81
And ultimately go beyond this,
00:33:33.82\00:33:36.79
he and his
daughter both honoring God
00:33:36.80\00:33:40.10
are resurrected
and live eternally.
00:33:40.11\00:33:43.24
So in the big picture
the loss isn't eternal.
00:33:43.25\00:33:48.02
True. The loss is
temporary and a great loss.
00:33:48.03\00:33:50.80
I'm not
suggesting that it's not.
00:33:50.81\00:33:52.28
Right. But in the
over all scheme of things
00:33:52.29\00:33:54.26
if their mind is right with God
00:33:54.27\00:33:55.59
and it clearly
was here in this case,
00:33:55.60\00:33:57.28
there will be a time
00:33:58.54\00:33:59.51
when he would see
his daughter again.
00:33:59.52\00:34:00.77
That's right.
00:34:00.78\00:34:02.41
Well that's the
end of our questions,
00:34:02.42\00:34:04.15
we took a little
longer time today
00:34:04.16\00:34:05.56
but thank you for your
questions and comments.
00:34:05.57\00:34:07.63
If you have any more
questions or comments
00:34:07.64\00:34:09.46
about what we've
talked about here today
00:34:09.47\00:34:10.63
or something else on your mind,
00:34:10.64\00:34:12.31
send those to
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00:34:12.32\00:34:16.20
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00:34:16.21\00:34:19.92
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you as soon as we possibly can.
00:34:19.93\00:34:23.22
Thank you so much for
all you do for this ministry
00:34:23.23\00:34:26.91
as well as for the advancement
of God's cause in the earth.
00:34:26.92\00:34:31.86
John take us to our topic today.
00:34:31.87\00:34:33.99
Well we've been
talking about the topic
00:34:34.00\00:34:37.62
the series title is
"Why So Many Denominations?"
00:34:37.63\00:34:40.51
we've been talking about how
00:34:40.52\00:34:42.26
those denominations came about,
00:34:42.27\00:34:45.15
those who are
first couple programs
00:34:45.16\00:34:47.68
or last couple of programs
00:34:47.69\00:34:48.84
we dealt with two very large
00:34:48.85\00:34:50.34
denominations around the world.
00:34:50.35\00:34:52.52
One is Roman
Catholicism, one is Baptist,
00:34:52.53\00:34:54.83
the Baptist Church
and it's many churches
00:34:54.84\00:34:58.45
they're
Congregationalists in structure
00:34:58.46\00:35:00.06
and so there are many
kinds of Baptist churches
00:35:00.07\00:35:02.40
and they have some
scuttle differences of opinions
00:35:02.41\00:35:06.02
within those Baptist churches.
00:35:06.03\00:35:07.13
But, we talked about the ones
00:35:07.14\00:35:08.28
that are most common to them.
00:35:08.29\00:35:09.78
Now, we're going to get into,
00:35:09.79\00:35:11.03
in our last two programs here.
00:35:11.04\00:35:13.66
Some other denominations.
00:35:13.67\00:35:16.03
Right. And their beliefs
00:35:16.04\00:35:18.57
and we'll find
out some commonality,
00:35:18.58\00:35:20.87
there are some
similar commonalities
00:35:20.88\00:35:22.55
but also some may be different
scuttle different differences
00:35:22.56\00:35:25.28
than what we
exposed or at least shared
00:35:25.29\00:35:28.20
that the Roman
Catholic Church has
00:35:28.21\00:35:29.89
and the Baptist church has
and then in the next program
00:35:29.90\00:35:33.18
we'll cover a couple of churches
00:35:33.19\00:35:34.33
that say they are
Christian and we'll figure out
00:35:34.34\00:35:36.65
really if they
are living in harmony
00:35:36.66\00:35:38.46
with the word of God.
00:35:38.47\00:35:39.44
All right. One of the reasons
00:35:39.45\00:35:40.42
why were we
refer to these churches
00:35:40.43\00:35:42.42
as being Christian
is because the highest
00:35:42.43\00:35:47.48
or the most obvious believes
00:35:47.49\00:35:50.43
that qualify you as
Christian are there.
00:35:50.44\00:35:53.20
And we've shared
those common ones
00:35:53.21\00:35:55.91
amongst most of
these denominations
00:35:55.92\00:35:57.50
which is the God head
living in the three in one,
00:35:57.51\00:36:01.29
God the Father, God the
Son, God the Holy Spirit.
00:36:01.30\00:36:04.41
We find also that they believe.
00:36:04.42\00:36:08.01
The inspiration of
God. In the inspiration
00:36:08.02\00:36:09.37
of scripture, we also
find that they believe in.
00:36:09.38\00:36:13.33
Obedience to
God. Obedience to God.
00:36:14.92\00:36:16.66
Thank you for
helping me on these.
00:36:16.67\00:36:18.61
And beyond that
though you started
00:36:18.62\00:36:20.87
to getting some
scuttle differences of opinion.
00:36:20.88\00:36:23.12
So we'll share some
of those differences
00:36:23.13\00:36:24.47
and the couple that
will cover this time
00:36:24.48\00:36:26.88
are the Lutheran Church
and the Methodist Church,
00:36:26.89\00:36:30.35
the Pentecostal Church.
00:36:30.36\00:36:32.07
And there is a
new church that is,
00:36:32.08\00:36:34.14
it's been
growing, you see these,
00:36:34.15\00:36:35.77
these rooms kind of around
some of your neighborhoods
00:36:37.00\00:36:39.16
the Christian signs rooms,
00:36:39.17\00:36:41.22
but Christian scientist
will share a few things
00:36:41.23\00:36:43.36
they, have some
definite differences
00:36:43.37\00:36:45.84
of opinion with regard to--
00:36:45.85\00:36:47.69
Okay. To beliefs in God's word.
00:36:47.70\00:36:49.49
So, anyway John,
I want you launch us
00:36:49.50\00:36:52.01
into our first one here.
00:36:52.02\00:36:54.15
Well, first of all
let's talk about Lutherans.
00:36:54.16\00:36:56.36
Well, if when you
hear the word Lutheran
00:36:56.37\00:36:58.18
you right away think,
Luther, Luther, Martin Luther.
00:36:58.19\00:37:02.57
Well, Martin
Luther, was, is noted
00:37:02.58\00:37:05.51
as one of the foremost reformers
00:37:05.52\00:37:08.16
of the Protestant Reformation.
00:37:08.17\00:37:10.06
The one who
launched the Reformation
00:37:10.07\00:37:13.49
against the Roman Catholic
Church in his 95 thesis,
00:37:13.50\00:37:17.34
you can actually
go to the Internet.
00:37:17.35\00:37:19.20
And get a copy of that and read
00:37:19.21\00:37:20.45
what those 95 objections were.
00:37:20.46\00:37:24.81
But one of the things that's
to be often noted about the,
00:37:24.82\00:37:29.74
the Lutheran church or movement
00:37:29.75\00:37:32.45
is they don't necessarily
adhere to all the principles
00:37:32.46\00:37:36.63
and precepts that
Martin Luther upheld.
00:37:36.64\00:37:39.84
So some of the things
I use this phrase before,
00:37:39.85\00:37:43.28
some of the
things that they embrace
00:37:43.29\00:37:45.20
survive the filtration but.
00:37:45.21\00:37:49.23
It's been the
filtration in case they.
00:37:49.24\00:37:50.85
In other words,
what they mean by,
00:37:50.86\00:37:52.20
what I mean by
that is some things
00:37:52.21\00:37:53.63
that were practiced
in Catholicism made it
00:37:53.64\00:37:55.97
through the
strainer of Protestantism
00:37:55.98\00:37:58.32
and continued to
be, made it through
00:37:58.33\00:38:00.66
the reformation that
continued to be honored
00:38:00.67\00:38:02.19
by the Protestant
churches all though
00:38:02.20\00:38:03.99
they were protesting
in their early stages.
00:38:04.00\00:38:06.94
One of those is
Baptism by sprinkling,
00:38:06.95\00:38:11.62
Lutheran's embrace that.
00:38:11.63\00:38:13.48
Well, that doesn't
need much explanations
00:38:13.49\00:38:15.57
clearly baptism by sprinkling,
00:38:15.58\00:38:17.02
sprinkle rather than
full immersion another one
00:38:17.03\00:38:20.41
they believe in the
immortality of the soul.
00:38:20.42\00:38:23.07
Talked about
teaching embraced and taught
00:38:23.08\00:38:25.86
by the Roman
Catholic Church also.
00:38:25.87\00:38:28.28
They believe in
Sunday sacredness,
00:38:28.29\00:38:31.46
that Sunday is the
Holy day of the work week
00:38:31.47\00:38:34.77
or a holy day of the
week for the Christians.
00:38:34.78\00:38:36.81
And you can find that,
that is the common one,
00:38:36.82\00:38:39.70
John, by the way, among
most Christian churches.
00:38:39.71\00:38:42.92
They say, well,
00:38:42.93\00:38:44.93
the Sabbath is the
Seventh-day of the week.
00:38:44.94\00:38:47.25
That is kept by Jews
and Seventh-day Adventist.
00:38:47.26\00:38:50.19
However Sunday is
the Christian Sabbath.
00:38:50.20\00:38:53.07
Well, you know, what's strange
00:38:53.08\00:38:54.05
about the word
Christian Sabbath,
00:38:54.06\00:38:56.45
is just as
strange as unclean foods.
00:38:56.46\00:39:00.17
Since you just
started that thing, John.
00:39:00.18\00:39:01.94
Unclean foods as a
phrase and Christian Sabbath
00:39:01.95\00:39:06.69
as a phrase or the Sabbath
of the first day of the week
00:39:06.70\00:39:11.38
is an odd oxymoron,
00:39:11.39\00:39:14.00
because the Sabbath never was
00:39:14.01\00:39:16.10
and never can be the
first day of the week.
00:39:16.11\00:39:19.84
And so saying it's a
Christian day of worship
00:39:19.85\00:39:22.59
doesn't say that
Christ ordained it
00:39:22.60\00:39:25.53
that's why it's an oxymoron.
00:39:25.54\00:39:26.96
Christian Sabbath is
Saturday because Christ honored,
00:39:26.97\00:39:31.05
established, and observed
00:39:31.06\00:39:34.34
as His custom was when
he was here on the earth.
00:39:34.35\00:39:37.19
And it's simple one
of the Ten Commandments.
00:39:37.20\00:39:38.88
Lutherans also believe in
church and state relations.
00:39:40.42\00:39:46.21
They believe in
strong cooperation
00:39:46.22\00:39:48.21
between church and state.
00:39:48.22\00:39:49.45
One of the things
that's really pointed out
00:39:51.38\00:39:54.33
constitutionally and
this is a great argument
00:39:54.34\00:39:57.16
in the political
circles nowadays.
00:39:57.17\00:39:59.36
Is that the church
shouldn't influence the state
00:39:59.37\00:40:02.40
and the state, sorry
00:40:02.41\00:40:03.99
the state shouldn't
influence the church
00:40:04.00\00:40:06.40
and the church
shouldn't appeal to the state.
00:40:06.41\00:40:09.41
To enforce its daugmatisn
and his spiritual principles
00:40:09.42\00:40:12.13
or its doctrines, but
you find that the more
00:40:12.14\00:40:15.22
we get closer to the end.
00:40:15.23\00:40:17.54
The more and more
the churches appealing
00:40:17.55\00:40:19.28
to this to the state
00:40:19.29\00:40:21.24
since you've all
this moral movements,
00:40:21.25\00:40:23.14
the moral majority,
the Christian coalition
00:40:23.15\00:40:25.62
and all these
mega, mega movements
00:40:25.63\00:40:26.87
that are trying to
get to States to support
00:40:26.88\00:40:29.30
what the churches believe.
00:40:29.31\00:40:30.95
And this is
something that we looked at,
00:40:30.96\00:40:33.22
when we looked at Baptist.
00:40:33.23\00:40:34.86
They would believe in a
strong separation. Right.
00:40:34.87\00:40:37.29
Of Church and
state, at least on a whole,
00:40:37.30\00:40:38.53
most of them do,
00:40:38.54\00:40:39.93
whereas Lutherans
are opposite. Right.
00:40:39.94\00:40:41.53
They believe in a
strong coalition or cooperation
00:40:41.54\00:40:44.51
which really comes from Rome.
00:40:44.52\00:40:46.49
The Church of the Romans,
itself was very, very much
00:40:46.50\00:40:48.92
used to being connected with
00:40:48.93\00:40:51.14
and in fact even
providing oversight
00:40:51.15\00:40:53.55
for civil authority.
00:40:53.56\00:40:55.46
So this is
something that carries
00:40:55.47\00:40:57.16
right on down
through Lutheran's.
00:40:57.17\00:40:59.16
Now, I like, I do like the word
00:40:59.17\00:41:00.37
that you've used filtering
00:41:00.38\00:41:02.15
because the reformation
was suppose to be this filter
00:41:02.16\00:41:06.69
or this swifter
so to speak. Right.
00:41:06.70\00:41:09.08
And as the doctrines of
Rome will put in this swifter
00:41:09.09\00:41:13.55
there were some
that still got through.
00:41:13.56\00:41:16.92
And each Church as
it continued to develop
00:41:16.93\00:41:19.69
or be creative, In other words
00:41:19.70\00:41:21.32
the denominations
over and over again
00:41:21.33\00:41:22.96
began to create.
00:41:22.97\00:41:23.94
They picked and they
chose, which ones they chose,
00:41:23.95\00:41:27.42
which ones that
they wanted to follow
00:41:27.43\00:41:31.13
and many of them
were the very ones
00:41:31.14\00:41:33.81
that Rome initiated. Right.
00:41:33.82\00:41:35.99
And so but we'll find
throughout all of them
00:41:36.00\00:41:39.52
some major themes,
that they all believe
00:41:39.53\00:41:42.62
in immortality of
the soul. That's right.
00:41:42.63\00:41:44.98
And they all believe
in Sunday sacredness,
00:41:44.99\00:41:48.01
those are the two
that absolutely survived
00:41:48.02\00:41:50.74
every single filter
and are still passed down
00:41:50.75\00:41:53.06
to every single denomination
with the exception of,
00:41:53.07\00:41:58.06
Seventh-day Adventist,
church, Seventh-day baptism
00:41:58.07\00:42:00.24
and they are actually
quite a few other Seventh-day
00:42:00.25\00:42:02.81
keeping
denominations out there. Right.
00:42:02.82\00:42:05.43
And that do believe
in the Sabbath as taught
00:42:05.44\00:42:08.74
by the word of the God.
00:42:08.75\00:42:09.72
So--One of the other
things that Lutheran's hold onto
00:42:09.73\00:42:12.14
is the
consubstantiation of Christ.
00:42:12.15\00:42:15.05
In other words they mean
that during the communion
00:42:15.06\00:42:18.12
they feel that,
that's actually Christ. Yeah.
00:42:18.13\00:42:20.72
And that word mostly use
00:42:20.73\00:42:21.83
now days is
transubstantiation. Right.
00:42:21.84\00:42:23.98
It was consubstantiation
now, transubstantiation,
00:42:23.99\00:42:27.10
but that the literal
presence of Christ is alive
00:42:27.11\00:42:29.40
and well, it's the
conversion of communion
00:42:29.41\00:42:33.26
wafer to the body of the Christ.
00:42:33.27\00:42:35.43
And the one thing that
Lutheran's don't hold to
00:42:35.44\00:42:39.77
is something that is
held to by let's go ahead
00:42:39.78\00:42:43.63
and transition to
the Methodist now.
00:42:43.64\00:42:47.91
Methodist, the name being used
00:42:47.92\00:42:52.72
by its founder establishing
the Methodist movement,
00:42:53.98\00:42:56.69
John Wesley,
the common doctrines
00:42:56.70\00:43:00.78
that are held you know,
they believe in God head
00:43:00.79\00:43:03.10
Salvation by grace,
00:43:03.11\00:43:04.72
emphasis on holy
misscantification
00:43:04.73\00:43:06.49
growing in grace.
00:43:06.50\00:43:07.99
They reject eternal
torment and that's is,
00:43:08.00\00:43:11.08
that's a wonderful one that
the Lutherans' don't reject.
00:43:11.09\00:43:15.84
And also they
celebrate the Lord's Supper
00:43:15.85\00:43:21.21
but the things that they have
00:43:21.22\00:43:23.26
that are not supported by Bible.
00:43:23.27\00:43:25.15
Why don't you go to
some of those for us, John?
00:43:25.16\00:43:27.97
Yeah and we'll
again we're going hear
00:43:27.98\00:43:29.06
some of the same ones.
00:43:29.07\00:43:31.06
They actually reject
a literal second coming
00:43:31.07\00:43:33.72
which is interesting.
00:43:33.73\00:43:34.82
Yeah, put it-- Because there is
00:43:34.83\00:43:35.94
so much in the word of God,
00:43:35.95\00:43:36.94
about the
second coming of Christ
00:43:36.95\00:43:38.74
and the resurrection
as the same event. Right.
00:43:38.75\00:43:41.56
Really culminating, or
ending the age of this earth
00:43:41.57\00:43:46.56
at least in its
sinful state and allows us
00:43:46.57\00:43:49.52
then to enter into
heaven with Christ.
00:43:49.53\00:43:52.44
Who will take us there?
00:43:52.45\00:43:54.35
Immortality of the
soul, Sunday sacredness,
00:43:54.36\00:43:56.64
of course, those two
we've already explained
00:43:56.65\00:43:58.46
or carried right on through.
00:43:58.47\00:44:00.12
They do also
believe in infant baptism,
00:44:00.13\00:44:01.90
which is a something that,
00:44:01.91\00:44:05.41
that we find is a
little problematic
00:44:05.42\00:44:08.06
when it comes to God's word.
00:44:08.07\00:44:09.85
And here is the
other thing that,
00:44:09.86\00:44:10.99
this is interesting
because then we start to delve
00:44:11.00\00:44:13.94
into this realm
were some churches
00:44:13.95\00:44:15.71
have been treading.
00:44:15.72\00:44:17.78
Which is no longer believing
in solo scriptura. Right.
00:44:17.79\00:44:21.93
It's the start that
00:44:21.94\00:44:23.57
well, the
scripture is been around
00:44:23.58\00:44:25.37
for so long and
there's got to be
00:44:25.38\00:44:26.86
some errors in throughout time.
00:44:26.87\00:44:29.21
It's just, it's got to happen.
00:44:29.22\00:44:31.17
And so they reject some aspects
00:44:31.18\00:44:33.98
at least many of them do,
the authority of the Bible,
00:44:33.99\00:44:37.05
and I'm not
saying all of them do
00:44:37.06\00:44:38.16
because there's some differences
00:44:38.17\00:44:39.17
of opinion within the
Methodist church itself.
00:44:39.18\00:44:41.72
But to some of them
00:44:41.73\00:44:42.70
definitely do reject
that aspect of scripture,
00:44:42.71\00:44:45.84
which is, wow, I
mean if the word of God
00:44:45.85\00:44:49.49
is a lamp unto our feet
and a light unto our path.
00:44:49.50\00:44:52.50
You really could argue,
you know, what a challenge
00:44:52.51\00:44:54.64
it would be for some
of who rejects the thought
00:44:54.65\00:44:57.01
of the Bible to
even find their way.
00:44:57.02\00:44:59.19
that, that would cause.
00:45:01.70\00:45:02.67
So that's something else
that we see as very problematic.
00:45:02.68\00:45:08.34
And the reason why
they have that position is
00:45:08.35\00:45:11.16
because they believe that
the Bible is a traditionally
00:45:11.17\00:45:14.63
and culturally
conditioned, meaning,
00:45:14.64\00:45:19.36
I believe it's the word of God
00:45:19.37\00:45:20.45
but is it
really the word of God.
00:45:20.46\00:45:24.63
All those words of men,
the words of a cultured.
00:45:24.64\00:45:29.16
So, that's what causes
there to be serious doubts
00:45:29.17\00:45:32.64
about the
inspiration of the Bible.
00:45:32.65\00:45:35.53
You know, it's
amazing to accept the Bible
00:45:35.54\00:45:36.76
but not accept its inspiration.
00:45:36.77\00:45:39.14
When the Bible itself says,
00:45:39.15\00:45:40.32
all scripture's
given by inspiration of God
00:45:40.33\00:45:42.77
so you got to even
reject that scripture.
00:45:42.78\00:45:45.39
You see, you received the Bible
00:45:45.40\00:45:47.19
but you have to
reject the scripture
00:45:47.20\00:45:48.30
that's in the scriptures
because that scripture says
00:45:48.31\00:45:51.16
all scriptures given
by inspiration of God.
00:45:51.17\00:45:53.70
But in fact the other
thing that is also embraced
00:45:53.71\00:45:57.67
by the Methodists is
infant baptism and sprinkling.
00:45:57.68\00:46:02.95
Instead of immersion which
is not supported by scripture,
00:46:02.96\00:46:07.56
that's something that
clearly sprinkled down
00:46:07.57\00:46:11.43
to keep that phrase going
00:46:11.44\00:46:12.62
from the Roman
Catholic Church. All right.
00:46:12.63\00:46:16.16
Now, we going to look
at a couple denominations
00:46:16.17\00:46:20.37
and we're
trending now a little way
00:46:20.38\00:46:22.69
from Orthodoxy. Okay.
00:46:22.70\00:46:25.73
That generally considered
strong Christian faiths
00:46:25.74\00:46:28.26
to some areas where there
is some definite diversions
00:46:28.27\00:46:31.60
in certain beliefs from
mainstream Christianity.
00:46:31.61\00:46:36.24
And one of those
is Pentecostals Right.
00:46:36.25\00:46:40.26
Pentecostal Church some
even refer to was often referred
00:46:40.27\00:46:44.41
to as the third
force in Christianity.
00:46:44.42\00:46:47.06
Alongside
traditional Catholicism
00:46:47.07\00:46:49.05
and its historic Protestantism.
00:46:49.06\00:46:50.91
So we see them as a
third aspect of this
00:46:50.92\00:46:54.18
that is continuing to further
00:46:54.19\00:46:55.73
certain true's of
the Bible-- Right.
00:46:55.74\00:46:58.11
That have been lost
and so we find that.
00:46:58.12\00:47:01.67
And some of their
beliefs that they hold true
00:47:01.68\00:47:04.65
and faithful too in the Bible
is that the Bible is trusted
00:47:04.66\00:47:08.21
as a rule of faith and practice.
00:47:08.22\00:47:10.95
Salvation to
the blood of Christ,
00:47:10.96\00:47:13.64
Jesus will return soon,
they believe in imminent
00:47:13.65\00:47:17.07
return of Christ it's very soon,
00:47:17.08\00:47:20.14
baptism by
immersion, the Lord's Supper,
00:47:20.15\00:47:22.14
the virgin birth.
00:47:22.15\00:47:23.95
But, and the
gifts of the Spirit,
00:47:23.96\00:47:25.66
but here's where that
the diversion happens. Yeah.
00:47:25.67\00:47:29.28
And the
diversions are really clever
00:47:29.29\00:47:30.73
because how do I believe
00:47:30.74\00:47:32.17
in the fact of the
soon return of Jesus,
00:47:32.18\00:47:35.88
and then attached
to that the soon secret
00:47:35.89\00:47:39.44
return of Jesus.
00:47:39.45\00:47:41.56
That's what the odd part about,
00:47:41.57\00:47:43.08
because Pentecostals
are straight and strong
00:47:43.09\00:47:46.16
on the issue of
the secret rapture.
00:47:46.17\00:47:49.62
Believing that
Christ will return secretly,
00:47:49.63\00:47:52.67
that's the thing
00:47:52.68\00:47:53.65
that's really
diabolical about that.
00:47:53.66\00:47:55.50
I believe that
Jesus is going to return
00:47:55.51\00:47:57.93
but it's going to be a secret.
00:47:57.94\00:48:01.02
The greatest event
of all human history,
00:48:01.03\00:48:03.34
it's not going to be a secret.
00:48:03.35\00:48:04.63
And I don't know
if we mentioned those
00:48:04.64\00:48:05.88
in some past programs
00:48:05.89\00:48:06.86
but to rapture theory
was something formulated
00:48:06.87\00:48:09.36
by the Roman Catholic
Church through the assigning
00:48:09.37\00:48:12.66
of this project
to two main Jesuits.
00:48:12.67\00:48:17.65
Francisco Roberos
and Louis Di Alcazar
00:48:17.66\00:48:21.93
and one became a
preterits, one was the futurists
00:48:21.94\00:48:25.27
and the futurist
was one that came up
00:48:25.28\00:48:26.68
about this entire
idea of the secret rapture.
00:48:26.69\00:48:29.29
Well the Gap Theory,
which has been embraced
00:48:29.30\00:48:31.93
and I can go
through the whole line
00:48:31.94\00:48:33.44
of that which has
been embraced today
00:48:33.45\00:48:35.14
as one of the
main major teachings
00:48:35.15\00:48:38.09
in the Pentecostal Church.
00:48:38.10\00:48:40.70
So is Jesus coming
back, yes He is but He is,
00:48:40.71\00:48:44.09
He is coming back secretly.
00:48:44.10\00:48:45.72
No He is not, not
supported anywhere in the Bible.
00:48:45.73\00:48:48.07
Right, right, you
know, and the other thing
00:48:48.08\00:48:50.57
I was thinking
about when it comes
00:48:50.58\00:48:51.82
to the gifts of the
spirit and the divergence here
00:48:51.83\00:48:54.51
is that they're very strong
00:48:54.52\00:48:55.96
proponents of the
gift of tongues. Right.
00:48:55.97\00:48:58.49
Speaking in tongues.
00:48:58.50\00:48:59.60
And you know associated in
this arena with charismatic
00:48:59.61\00:49:04.54
or other charismatic churches
that are not Pentecostal.
00:49:04.55\00:49:07.59
But the gift of
speaking in tongues
00:49:07.60\00:49:09.45
is something that
is used as a test.
00:49:09.46\00:49:14.13
The manifestation of
speech that comes from God
00:49:14.14\00:49:18.92
that is not
understandable to the observer
00:49:18.93\00:49:24.63
is something that is a sign
00:49:24.64\00:49:28.04
that the Holy Spirit of
God is dwelling in you. Right.
00:49:28.05\00:49:31.87
And notice I shouldn't
say a sign it's the sign,
00:49:31.88\00:49:35.23
it's the confirmation that
the Holy Spirit has entered.
00:49:35.24\00:49:40.20
You know, it's
amazing, the Bible says
00:49:40.21\00:49:43.30
the fruit at the
spirit is love, joy, peace,
00:49:43.31\00:49:45.33
long suffering,
gentleness, meekness, patience.
00:49:45.34\00:49:47.73
But they're
looking at the evidence
00:49:47.74\00:49:50.83
of the indwelling
spirit which in fact
00:49:50.84\00:49:52.67
in the Bible the evidence are,
00:49:52.68\00:49:55.17
the evidence are not,
the evidences are listed
00:49:55.18\00:49:57.70
not just in one gift
but in the propagation
00:49:57.71\00:50:00.45
and presence of
all, what strange about
00:50:00.46\00:50:02.58
that is the spirit
of God gives the gifts
00:50:02.59\00:50:05.22
to whomever He chooses.
00:50:05.23\00:50:07.41
We don't choose
what gift we want
00:50:07.42\00:50:09.84
He chooses what gift we need.
00:50:09.85\00:50:11.42
And doesn't mean
you get all of them.
00:50:11.43\00:50:12.86
No, so instead of pray
00:50:12.87\00:50:14.28
for something
that you don't need.
00:50:14.29\00:50:17.02
Why do I need
the gift of tongues
00:50:17.03\00:50:18.63
from communicating to Americans?
00:50:18.64\00:50:20.65
And I speak the same language.
00:50:20.66\00:50:22.21
The gift of tongues was
given on the day of Pentecost
00:50:22.22\00:50:24.37
not to communicate with people
00:50:24.38\00:50:26.48
that have the same language
but to begin a worldwide
00:50:26.49\00:50:29.26
outreach for the gospel.
00:50:29.27\00:50:30.45
And break down barriers,
00:50:30.46\00:50:31.43
language barriers. Yeah.
00:50:31.44\00:50:33.00
Matter of fact I would
recommend you contact 3ABN
00:50:33.01\00:50:36.17
and get the book
that Pastor Hal Steenson
00:50:36.18\00:50:37.95
put together about
the gift of tongues.
00:50:37.96\00:50:40.27
You did a very good job of that,
00:50:40.28\00:50:41.47
I've used that
several times as a resource.
00:50:41.48\00:50:43.43
And Pastor Steenson
is one that has come out
00:50:43.44\00:50:46.13
of a charismatic Church. Right.
00:50:46.14\00:50:48.18
He understands
it very well through
00:50:48.19\00:50:49.56
and through and he says
00:50:49.57\00:50:51.07
it is definitely
there is a false teaching
00:50:51.08\00:50:53.46
on the gift of tongues
within the charismatic movement.
00:50:53.47\00:50:57.12
So anyway that is a,
that is Pentecostals.
00:50:57.13\00:50:59.99
Now when we want to cover here
00:51:00.00\00:51:02.75
and kind of end
with in this program
00:51:02.76\00:51:04.78
is Christian scientists.
00:51:04.79\00:51:08.22
This originated in
Boston, Massachusetts,
00:51:08.23\00:51:11.29
and it was following the visions
00:51:11.30\00:51:15.02
of Mary Baker
Eddie in the mid 1800s.
00:51:15.03\00:51:19.75
You had
manifestations of miracles
00:51:19.76\00:51:21.93
and things going on,
00:51:21.94\00:51:22.91
evidences of what appeared
to be at least they said
00:51:22.92\00:51:26.85
was God's working, God's moving
00:51:26.86\00:51:29.41
and it created a
whole denomination
00:51:29.42\00:51:31.04
basically out of
miracle working powers
00:51:31.05\00:51:33.53
that were seen
through Mary Baker Eddie.
00:51:33.54\00:51:36.80
And anyway just a
quick reference here
00:51:36.81\00:51:42.51
in 1875 Mary Baker Eddie
published her books science
00:51:42.52\00:51:46.07
and health with a
key to the scriptures.
00:51:46.08\00:51:48.87
She reasons that
since God is good
00:51:48.88\00:51:50.58
infinite and omnipotent.
00:51:50.59\00:51:52.32
Evil is inconsistent
with the character of God.
00:51:52.33\00:51:55.42
Christian scientists believe,
00:51:55.43\00:51:57.64
Genesis 1 reveals
creation as spiritual
00:51:57.65\00:52:00.79
and perfect while
Genesis 2 is allegorical.
00:52:00.80\00:52:04.04
Is an allegorical account
of the false material creation
00:52:04.05\00:52:07.43
and the evil results
which follow accepting
00:52:07.44\00:52:10.85
a misconception of man.
00:52:10.86\00:52:13.36
The Church has no
ordained ministers.
00:52:13.37\00:52:16.05
It publishes the
internationally renown
00:52:16.06\00:52:18.39
Christian Science
monitored daily newspaper
00:52:18.40\00:52:20.22
with the circulation worldwide.
00:52:20.23\00:52:21.94
And so you can kind of see
00:52:21.95\00:52:23.49
at least with
that some foundations
00:52:23.50\00:52:25.61
of Christian Scientists
00:52:25.62\00:52:28.61
and where that
movement came from.
00:52:28.62\00:52:31.67
You know what amazes me
about Christian Scientists is
00:52:31.68\00:52:34.13
the fact that
they have some beliefs
00:52:34.14\00:52:35.55
that are not
supported by the Bible.
00:52:35.56\00:52:37.61
And one is that the
Bible is allegorical meaning
00:52:37.62\00:52:40.84
it's not to be taken literally
00:52:40.85\00:52:42.73
but those are
statement that are in the Bible
00:52:42.74\00:52:44.47
that for the most
part people believe
00:52:44.48\00:52:48.38
as the phrases used
in the New Testament,
00:52:48.39\00:52:52.04
"cunningly devised fables."
00:52:52.05\00:52:54.58
Right, and so
Christian scientists
00:52:54.59\00:52:56.63
look at the Bible as
well it's a great book
00:52:56.64\00:52:59.21
but it's an
allegorically representation
00:52:59.22\00:53:01.64
and don't take it seriously.
00:53:01.65\00:53:04.26
But then they have
these other beliefs
00:53:04.27\00:53:05.74
that are really in
conflict because they do believe
00:53:05.75\00:53:07.43
in the immortality of the soul,
00:53:07.44\00:53:09.02
meaning a person dies
00:53:09.03\00:53:10.11
and neither goes
to heaven or hell.
00:53:10.12\00:53:12.74
But at the same
time they don't believe
00:53:12.75\00:53:14.25
in the influence of the devil.
00:53:14.26\00:53:16.99
So when we talk about no devil,
00:53:17.00\00:53:19.17
they don't
believe in the influence
00:53:19.18\00:53:21.31
of the devil on society.
00:53:21.32\00:53:23.71
People are inherently bad
or inherently good and so--
00:53:23.72\00:53:28.52
And then he is imaginary
more fictional in our use
00:53:28.53\00:53:31.53
of when we discuss
evil, when we talk about evil.
00:53:31.54\00:53:34.26
It's allegorical again,
it's a fictional character
00:53:34.27\00:53:36.78
that is referenced and that's
00:53:36.79\00:53:38.24
there belief about the devil.
00:53:38.25\00:53:39.42
Which opens the
door to things like Karma
00:53:39.43\00:53:41.93
and Zen and you do
good it comes back to you.
00:53:41.94\00:53:45.55
It's your mental attitude,
that's your position in life,
00:53:45.56\00:53:47.83
that you approach to
things in life that makes it
00:53:47.84\00:53:49.48
good or bad.
00:53:49.49\00:53:50.57
It's the way you
see life that causes it
00:53:50.58\00:53:52.50
to be evil or good.
00:53:52.51\00:53:54.24
And one of the things
though that I wanted to bring
00:53:54.25\00:53:56.53
Christian
Scientists into the mix here
00:53:56.54\00:53:58.29
because one of the
things they bring to the table
00:53:58.30\00:54:00.37
that looks good
but can be very bad
00:54:00.38\00:54:04.05
is this positive
thinking, the positive thing
00:54:04.06\00:54:08.36
which you can
find within yourself.
00:54:08.37\00:54:10.04
You know and we
find this working
00:54:10.05\00:54:11.87
its way into other Christian
denominations as well. Yeah.
00:54:11.88\00:54:14.31
You know
preachers who are preaching
00:54:14.32\00:54:15.70
the positive
approach and you know what,
00:54:15.71\00:54:17.43
we should have
positive thinking.
00:54:17.44\00:54:18.79
So I'm not teaching
00:54:18.80\00:54:20.67
or suggesting
that we be negative.
00:54:20.68\00:54:23.33
But what I'm saying
is that this wholesome
00:54:23.34\00:54:27.37
mental focus on the
positive is more out of a desire
00:54:27.38\00:54:33.23
to conjure up the
strength within yourself
00:54:33.24\00:54:35.58
to be positive not
depending upon Christ
00:54:35.59\00:54:38.40
in you the Hope of Glory.
00:54:38.41\00:54:40.73
And so you have this whole,
00:54:40.74\00:54:41.97
a lot of the
books that are produced
00:54:41.98\00:54:43.64
by Christian Scientists
are along these lines,
00:54:43.65\00:54:47.41
positive thinking,
you know, you could find
00:54:47.42\00:54:49.10
the strength within yourself.
00:54:49.11\00:54:51.37
You know, rise
above your situation
00:54:51.38\00:54:54.30
without the
dependence as much on God.
00:54:54.31\00:54:56.59
It actually weakens
our dependence upon God.
00:54:56.60\00:54:59.58
You know the
thing that's amazing
00:54:59.59\00:55:00.62
about this whole
approach to looking at Christian
00:55:00.63\00:55:04.20
from a Scientific
prospective is also the fact
00:55:04.21\00:55:07.27
that the Bible is often
looked at as allegorical,
00:55:07.28\00:55:11.99
not really
having any real purpose
00:55:12.00\00:55:14.50
any real
application to our daily lives.
00:55:14.51\00:55:17.87
Which is
absolutely true is the word
00:55:17.88\00:55:19.77
that comes to mind here. Okay.
00:55:19.78\00:55:21.22
You know following
exactly what the Bible says
00:55:21.23\00:55:22.99
when it's command,
if it's allegorical,
00:55:23.00\00:55:24.58
it just becomes a suggestion.
00:55:24.59\00:55:27.26
Right it's not
really, this is not the map.
00:55:27.27\00:55:30.69
It's just a suggested map.
00:55:30.70\00:55:32.04
And you tend to
spiritualize things
00:55:32.05\00:55:33.71
more than take the word
00:55:33.72\00:55:35.10
for what it is actually
saying in literal sense.
00:55:35.11\00:55:37.11
And the, and the next two things
00:55:37.12\00:55:38.64
that really kind
of struck a cord to me
00:55:38.65\00:55:40.75
was the fact
that theirs no belief
00:55:40.76\00:55:43.12
by Christian Scientists
in a real actual devil.
00:55:43.13\00:55:47.02
In other words, his
influence in society,
00:55:47.03\00:55:49.75
there is bad is
bad and good is good.
00:55:49.76\00:55:51.34
It's not so much
because there is a devil,
00:55:51.35\00:55:54.86
but at the very same time
the immortality of the soul
00:55:54.87\00:55:58.75
is a belief embraced by them.
00:55:58.76\00:56:01.22
And John, something
that we're seeing here
00:56:01.23\00:56:04.13
throughout many of
these other denominations
00:56:04.14\00:56:07.23
is they either have
00:56:07.24\00:56:09.89
both the immortality
of the soul as a belief.
00:56:09.90\00:56:13.22
Including this belief in
Sunday being a sacred day
00:56:13.23\00:56:16.19
or they have either just
the immortality of the soul
00:56:16.20\00:56:20.26
as their belief or
just to belief in Sunday.
00:56:20.27\00:56:23.15
So this is chore that.
00:56:23.16\00:56:25.41
that is come
through Roman Catholicism
00:56:25.42\00:56:28.19
that has influenced
many of these Churches
00:56:28.20\00:56:30.89
to embrace things
that are not supported
00:56:30.90\00:56:32.65
by the scriptures.
00:56:32.66\00:56:33.63
But Christians
scientist is not something
00:56:33.64\00:56:38.31
that you can really look at
00:56:38.32\00:56:40.26
as a viable Christian religion.
00:56:40.27\00:56:44.43
Well and there is
debate on that. Yeah.
00:56:44.44\00:56:46.62
You know and we understand that
00:56:46.63\00:56:48.10
there's a debate on specially
Catholicism itself. Right.
00:56:48.11\00:56:51.09
Catholicism is
very, very ritualistic
00:56:51.10\00:56:53.28
and it's got stuff that
they do that is not really
00:56:53.29\00:56:55.61
in anywhere
evidenced in scriptures.
00:56:55.62\00:56:57.11
Tradition, yeah, we
call it Christian. Right.
00:56:57.12\00:56:59.51
I think that's
because I emphasize
00:56:59.52\00:57:00.82
there this overarching
theme of belief in the God head
00:57:00.83\00:57:04.24
and Jesus and His divinity
00:57:04.25\00:57:05.96
and other things
that makes them Christian.
00:57:05.97\00:57:07.39
But then as you
really get down into it
00:57:07.40\00:57:10.09
you'll find that
there are some teachings
00:57:10.10\00:57:11.72
that are very wrong,
and the allegorical thing
00:57:11.73\00:57:14.15
I think is the
biggest issue here.
00:57:14.16\00:57:15.81
Because that thus says the Lord,
00:57:15.82\00:57:17.43
just doesn't apply anymore.
00:57:17.44\00:57:18.41
That's right and so, friends,
00:57:18.42\00:57:19.39
you know here at House
Calls we believe in the Bible
00:57:19.40\00:57:21.34
and the Bible only
still the Protestant
00:57:21.35\00:57:23.95
Reformation's
voice is Sola Scriptura.
00:57:23.96\00:57:26.36
You will know that
when you begin to study
00:57:26.37\00:57:27.96
the word of God for yourself.
00:57:27.97\00:57:29.14
So begin today and
have a wonderful day
00:57:29.15\00:57:31.73
as you walk with Christ.
00:57:31.74\00:57:32.75
He'll lead you
where you need to go.
00:57:32.76\00:57:34.64