Hello, friends.
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Grab your Bible and
a friend and sit back
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as we explore
God's word together
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on this edition of House Calls.
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Welcome to House Calls,
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another program where we
invite you into our study here
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and you invite us
into your living room.
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And we thank you so much
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for allowing us to
be the part of your day.
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My name is Pastor John Stanton
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and with me in the
studio today is Kevin Hart.
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Kevin, it's great
to have you here today.
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It's great to be here.
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I'm glad you decided to join us,
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and Kevin's been with 3ABN.
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You may have seen him
on a few other programs.
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I am excited to have
him here with us today,
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because I know that with
our dialogue with God blessing
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and pouring out his spirit
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that it will be
a blessed program.
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At this time I would
like to invite Kevin,
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if you would pray
for us that this program
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would be lead
by the Holy Spirit.
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Absolutely. Thank you.
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Father in Heaven,
we thank you so much
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for the
opportunity to share your word
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with our viewing audience
and to learn together, Lord.
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To just back
and forth your word,
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which is living and powerful
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and sharper than
a two-edged sword.
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We pray Lord, that it would
convict the hearts out there
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but also it soften the hearts.
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And that as we
study, we would once again
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have a glimpse of who Jesus
is, the work that He's doing.
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What He wants to do
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and the whole beauty
of grace in our lives.
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We pray that you
will lead this program
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to the honor and
the glory of your name.
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For I do ask these
things in Jesus name, amen.
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We have a couple programs
here that we're gonna do
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or spend some time on grace.
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In fact, title of the
program is the Power of Grace,
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maybe a different aspect
that you hadn't seen before.
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Before we dive into
that part of the program
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as you know though, we
always go to your questions
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and you are a big
part of this program,
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in sending those question to us.
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And so today we want to
spend sometime with those.
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Let me give you
also the couple of ways
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that you can
send your questions,
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and the first one
would be by regular mail.
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The post office send them
to 3ABN in care of House Calls.
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The other way you can write your
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or send your House Calls emails,
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to create an email and
send it to housecalls@3abn.org
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that's housecalls@3abn.org.
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We will make sure
that we get those questions
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off of that email address and
cover them in a future program.
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If at all possible.
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So thank you so much
for being part of it.
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Kevin, let's spend
sometime here on a few questions
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that are sent in, some
great questions we have today.
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What do you have to
start this off with there?
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Well, a caller writes in,
it says, we are Adventists
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and we were baptized in 1980.
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In addition, we've been
contemplating this question
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and would like it addressed.
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They say, what is the
significance of being aware
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of Christ ministering
in the Holy of Holies
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in heavenly sanctuary
and following Him there.
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It's a good question, you know.
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And we can't, I guess
really answer that question
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unless we go back to
the original tabernacle,
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the original priestly services.
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We don't wanna spend an enormous
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amount of time on
that, but basically,
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you know, the earthly priests,
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the Levites
were the priests back
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in the Old Testament times.
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All throughout the year
they would have services daily,
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offering
sacrifices and it was through
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the sacrifices of those,
those animals that people
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put their trust in
the coming redeemer.
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That's right. Those lambs.
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All those sacrifices
represented the coming messiah.
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And so their faith was
in Christ in that sense.
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Once a year, it was
called the Day of Atonement
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and this was a
particular, this was a high,
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high day for the
priestly services,
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because it was on
that day once a year
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that the high priest would go
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into what was
called the Most Holiest.
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And in the Most
Holiest is where all,
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in the Hebrew mind set,
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sins didn't just
disappear, you know.
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But rather that sanctuary
was a holy place and so,
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the idea was that these
sins though forgiven by faith
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and the sacrifices still had
to go somewhere and it just...
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Accumulated there.
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They accumulated, right exactly,
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you know, it's
like dusting your house,
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you know, spring cleaning.
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All the stuff accumulates.
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You don't
necessarily see it, right,
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you know, because you
clean all throughout the year.
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But in the
spring time a lot of us,
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you know, require the dusters,
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we get the stuff we can see.
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And I guess it's a
vague illustration,
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that's kind of what happens.
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Since
accumulate in the sanctuary
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and they have to be dealt with.
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And so once a year,
the high priest would go
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into the Most Holiest
and would take that blood
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and it would be
sprinkled on the mercy seat.
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And that would symbolize
the sacrifice of Christ.
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You know, the full
sacrifice, but then from there,
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that blood we have to be
transferred to something.
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Of course that's when
an scapegoat came into,
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came into being.
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But in the Most Holy
Place we know now that
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the earthly sanctuary was
really just a representation
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of the heavenly sanctuary.
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Right, it was just a patterning.
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It was a pattern, right.
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In fact, when God
gave Moses the directions
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on how to built it, what to do.
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It expressly says,
after these things make
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after the pattern of the true.
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You know, so they were made
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after the blue print of
real sanctuary in heaven.
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So and to answer the question,
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we know that Christ now
is in the Most Holy Place.
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We believe as
Adventists, that in 1844,
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he went from the Holy Place
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into the Most Holy
Place in his priestly work.
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And so I would like to
answer the question basically
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by going to Hebrews
chapter 8 real quick.
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And Paul is kind of summing up
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all that he has
been talking about.
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He says now,
this is the main point
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of the things we are saying.
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We have such a high priest
who is seated at the right hand
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of the throne of the
Majesty in the heavens,
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a Minister of the sanctuary
and of the true tabernacle
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which the Lord
erected, and not man.
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And so, when the
question is asked,
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what is the
need to follow Christ
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into the Most Holy Place.
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It really is an
experiential answer,
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rather the answer
is in our experience.
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If we believe that Jesus is in
the Most Holy Place right now,
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then in essence He is
cleansing the sanctuary
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as the high priest
did in the days of old.
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That cleansing in the sanctuary
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is the cleansing
of sin, you know.
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And we are, His earthly
tabernacle Christ lives in us.
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So if Christ is cleansing
the heavenly sanctuary,
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then ultimately He's cleansing
His people here on earth.
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So for living in that,
if you want to use the term
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antitypical Day of
Atonement since 1844.
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I believe our focus
as God's people should be
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in purging sin out
of our lives. Right.
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Because we do
have a high priest,
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you know, and
as our high priest,
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the Bible says, who can't
sympathize with our weaknesses,
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he doesn't just
sympathize. Right.
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You know,
Christ doesn't just say
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I understand what
you're going through
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'cause I was
tempted in all points.
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He's been there.
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But yet without sin.
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So Christ overcame and He wants
to overcome sin in our lives.
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He wants to purge his
people and prepare His people.
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So I think that's what it
really means to follow Christ
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into the Most Holy Place.
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Follow Him in
experience, you know, be there
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and have Him and we
are not talking about this,
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we're not talking about
some kind of spiritualism,
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you know, where we mediate
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and we're with Christ literally.
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It's an awareness.
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It's an
awareness, it's an awareness
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of what He is doing and
He is doing for His people.
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He is cleansing His people,
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you know, preparing His people.
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You know, one of the
other things that I found,
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that ties right in with that is,
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is our experience by
faith is our trust in Christ
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and what He has done for us.
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And we know that the book
of Hebrews clearly reveals
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that Jesus is our high priest.
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And the main work of the
high priest was it culminated
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with the Day of
Atonement. Right.
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The point to his ministry
of cleansing the sanctuary
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in the Day of
Atonement, if you want to see
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what the high priest did
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in the typical
pattern of this tabernacle
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in the wilderness and through
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the temples of all
with the Israelites.
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You can go to
Leviticus chapter 16
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that will reveal
there what the high priest
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actually did on
the Day of Atonement,
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but that's a picture
of what Christ is doing
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in the heavenly sanctuary
up in heaven right now.
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And so Kevin, as
you're talking about,
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you know, His ministry
there and what He's doing,
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it's transitioned of sorts,
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you know, it's no
longer a simple...
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Now I won't say
simple but I mean,
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it's no longer a continual day
by day just forgiving of sins.
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There is an
eradicating, an illuminating,
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and putting away of sin
from the heavenly sanctuary
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by the blood of
Christ and we know these
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two phase ministry
exists in the heavenly sanctuary
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because it existed
in the pattern of it,
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given on the mountain
to Moses in the earthly...
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And it's good
news for us, you know,
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because we don't
wanna be going through
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this continual round of,
you know, sin and repentance,
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sin and repentance,
the same world. Right.
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You know, nobody wants that.
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There is no joy in
that, you know, eventually
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you feel that guilt
builds up, you know.
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And it's really, it's a promise,
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you know, it's a promise to
know that Christ is cleansing
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and can cleanse
sin from our own lives.
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The other part of this
too is that Daniel chapter 8
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which is where we
arrive at the date of 1844.
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If you look at the
2300 year of prophecy,
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you will find that it
begins in 457 with the decree
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to restore and
rebuilt Jerusalem,
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including its walls to get
it totally done, up until 1844.
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You don't count your
zero but it ends in 1844
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which is when it's says
the sanctuary will be cleansed
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and the mistakes
that the Millerites made,
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where that they thought
the cleansing of the sanctuary
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was the cleansing
of the earth by fire.
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Of Christ coming
back, but in fact it wasn't.
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After that those who
continue to study the scriptures
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saw through the
cleansing services
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of the Day of Atonement.
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That instead of coming to
the earth that Christ actually
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transitioned from Holy
Place in the heavenly sanctuary
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to the Most Holy Place and
began His work of cleansing
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or in fact,
judgment, so to speak.
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And just a quick side note,
you used the term Millerites,
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it's nice to point
this out sometimes,
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because people says oh, you guy,
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you know, we have,
it's common these days
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to hear people
setting dates. Right.
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You know, in fact,
just not too long ago,
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a couple of months ago,
a very well known speaker
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in California was once
again setting another date
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and everybody was following him.
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And so as a rebuttal,
we're talking about that
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but people say oh, you
guys been setting dates too,
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you guys set the
date back in 1844,
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but the fact is that
they were Millerites. Right.
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In fact that we were not.
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There was not Adventists
who set the date of 1844.
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These are Millerites,
follower of William Miller.
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That's right.
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And so this was done
before the Adventist church
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had ever actually
become an entity, you know...
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Yeah. They
organized and formed in 1863.
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Exactly. So
you're aware of that.
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And the prophecies
and properly understood
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are with a driving force really,
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as we did begin to study
and gather together as a church,
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which is why much of our
message today is prophetic.
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And so praise the Lord for that.
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But I would like to claim...
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I just want to
share one more text here,
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it's actually just toward the,
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it's actually just
jumping over to chapter 9 here.
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And it's on that same thing,
but Christ came as high priest,
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starting in verse 11.
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Chapter 9 verse 11 of Hebrews.
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Christ came as high priest
of the good things to come
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with the greater and
more perfect tabernacle.
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And not made with hands
that is not of this creation.
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So once again obviously
there's a sanctuary in heaven.
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Not with the blood
of goats and calves,
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but with His
own blood He entered
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into the Most Holy
Place once for all,
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having obtained
eternal redemption.
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Okay, now
listen, this next verse.
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For of the blood
of bulls and of goats,
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and the ashes of a heifer,
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the sprinkling
the unclean sanctifies
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for the purifying of the flesh.
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How much more shall
the blood of Christ,
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who through the eternal Spirit
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offered himself
without spot to God,
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cleanse your
conscience from dead works
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to serve the living God.
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So Christ is doing a
work not an isolation
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in this heavenly sanctuary.
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But He is doing it
with His connection here
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on earth in our hearts.
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In the hearts of men. Exactly.
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Yeah, there is your
connection right there
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between our experience
and what Christ is doing
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as our high
priest in the heavens.
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The other, it involves
truth, the issue of truth.
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If you look at
Daniel chapter 8 verse 14
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is in regard to the 2300 days.
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It says, then it's
when the sanctuary will be
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cleansed after the 2300 days,
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but just prior to that if
you back up our couple verses,
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you will find that
there is this attack
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upon God's truth and it says...
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That's of religious nature.
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Absolutely, it says in verse 12,
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because of
transgression, an army was given
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over to the horn to
oppose the Daily sacrifices,
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and he cast truth
down to the ground.
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He did this, all
this and prospered.
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So what you had, was
this period of time, Kevin,
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where truth was
cast down to the ground.
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But as the
sanctuary was cleansed,
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truth then came
back to the forefront
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no longer being
cast to the ground,
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but being elevated to
reveal through his word
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the true standard God
has, and has always had
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for His people
and for His truth.
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And so along with the
transition of the Christ
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from Holy to Most
Holy, there is the cleansing
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and purifying of
the doctrine of Christ
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by His truth coming forward.
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So there is a renewed emphasis
on the truth of the scriptures
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and that's where the
Protestant reformation
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really kind of
catapulted us into post 1844.
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And it shows, you
know, just the fact that
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it was attacked
shows the importance of,
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you know, I mean,
just the fact that,
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that it was the focus
of this demonic attack
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shows the importance
of this message. Right.
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You know, but you can
never cast God's truth
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to the ground forever because
it's like seed, you know.
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It always going to,
it's like grass, you know,
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you can, anyways
ever had a garden before,
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you know, you tried
to get rid of that grass
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and of course,
the grass in this case
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would be a good
thing, God's word.
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But it's keep coming
you know, because God,
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God's word is
living and powerful.
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You can't kill it.
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That's right, amen.
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All right, thank you
very much for that question.
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Here is another
question that comes from,
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let's see here, Osius.
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Thank you very much for
sending us this question.
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I will just read the
last part of it here.
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He talks about how he
has been a retired pastor
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for a while and
there is a query,
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there is a question
that he has in regard to
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the sun growing
dark, the moon not,
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you know, giving its light and
the stars falling from heaven.
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And he talks about
this, he says that,
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preachers have been saying
that this will happen again.
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And he quotes a
couple individuals,
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a few individuals that have
said that very thing on 3ABN.
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And I will say I
have said that very thing
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and here is why I have said that
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and why all of
us are saying that.
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Turn first of all
to Luke chapter 21,
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you know, a lot of us, Kevin,
will read Matthew's account.
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From Matthew 24
about the sun growing dark
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and the stars
falling but the Luke,
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Luke 21 really
records more of the context
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within which this
happens with Christ's words.
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And so I'm gonna pick
it up here in verse 25
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which is the same
thing Luke is recording here
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that Matthew
recorded in Matthew 24.
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So it says in verse 25,
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And there will
be signs in the sun,
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in the moon, and in the stars,
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and on the earth, and here
is where the addition comes in,
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distress of
nations, with perplexity,
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the sea and the waves roaring,
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men's hearts
failing them with fear,
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and the
expectation of those things
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which are coming upon the earth,
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for the powers of the
heavens will be shaken.
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Then they will see the
son of man coming in the cloud
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with power and great glory.
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Notice the immediacy
here of the things that happen
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and it's not just
the sun growing dark
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and the stars
falling in the moon,
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knew not giving
it's light either
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and then some places
the Bible turning red,
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you know, the context
here is a global event
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that wakes of the world's
leaders to say what's going on?
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What is God doing
and they're in anxiety,
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they have feared.
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The sea and the waves roaring,
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of course, now we
understand what meaning that is,
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we've seen Tsunamis
have devastating impact,
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here over the
last several years.
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So there seems to be at least
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a contextually
within Christ words,
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a global impact of this, and
if you look at the events prior,
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you will find that
these were localized events,
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you know, the stars falling,
the dark day in New England,
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Lisbon's earthquake.
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These were localized events
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where this
contextually is a global event.
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The other thing
we find too is that
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when we're talking about
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in the context of
the 1260 years period.
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It ends in 1798.
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Well, two of the three
events happened before that.
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Right, 1755 Lisbon's earthquake.
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Yeah, and if you
look at the sixth seal,
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you will find that,
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that is a time of
troubled context there.
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And so it's more than just,
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you know, it's
almost like as Christ
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often does things
in type and anti-type.
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We see in type what's to come
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through the Lisbon earthquake,
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dark day in New England 1780,
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you know, stars
falling, meteor shower in 1833.
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It was a type of what is to come
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globally at the end of time.
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And I want to share, just
another aspect of these too.
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Within the Old Testament you
will find the prophets there.
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Many of the prophecies
given about the day of the Lord.
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The day of the
Lord is a prophecy that
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I can't find
fits anywhere except
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after the close
of probation. Right.
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You will find
an hour of judgment
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coming prior to the
close, but the day of the Lord
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is the day of
vengeance, a day of wrath.
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Those had been
an eschatological.
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Yeah, those probation
closed, its wrath is poured out.
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And in that context we
find the sun will grow dark.
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And so you will
find even contextually
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Old Testament prophets pointing
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to this happening
at the end of time.
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Joel probably the most
prominent because he says,
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that the Holy Spirit will be
poured out in latter rain power
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and then he refers right
there to the sun growing dark,
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moon not giving its light, so.
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Contextually this is
where we get it from.
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I know
historically as Adventists,
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especially the pioneers,
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they saw the
eminent return of Christ.
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I mean, they believed He
was coming in their lifetime
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and so they thought,
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they saw these
things has been fulfilled,
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they had been fulfilled.
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And they were, but we see now
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more in type then
in final anti-type.
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So anyway just to
throw a few things out there
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for your consideration
because these are some
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of the basis for which that
second application comes from.
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You have
another question for us?
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I actually do, yes.
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And it's a question
regarding, actually kind of,
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probably a common
question for many.
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In Genesis chapter 9,
we find the story of Ham
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seeing Noah his father naked,
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and I'd like to
turn it real quick.
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Because many people have asked,
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wasn't this kind of
severe the judgment pronounce
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upon him for
seeing his father naked?
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Let's turn to
Genesis chapter 9 real quick.
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And the Bible doesn't
really give a lot to work
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with it for us
understanding why, you know,
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why Noah pronounced
such a strong curse upon him.
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It starts here in verse 18,
this is just after the flood.
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it says, Now the sons of Noah
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who went out of the ark
were Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
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And Ham was the
father of Canaan.
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These three were
the sons of Noah,
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and from these the
whole earth was populated.
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And Noah began to be a farmer,
and he planted a vineyard.
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Then he drank
wine and was drunk,
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and became
uncovered in his tent. Okay.
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So there's two,
there's two things going on,
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you know, that
the issue of Noah.
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Noah wasn't perfect, you know.
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But what happens here
is, then says in verse 22,
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And Ham, the father of Canaan,
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the Canaan saw the
nakedness of his father,
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and told his two
brothers outside.
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But Shem and
Japheth took a garment,
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laid it on both their shoulders,
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and went backward and covered
the nakedness of their father.
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Their faces were turned away,
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and they did not see
their father's nakedness.
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And then we find
that Noah wakes up
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and he sees what the
younger brothers did,
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finds out what happened.
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He says cursed be
Canaan, a servant of servants.
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He shall be to his brethren.
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Now if your father
pronounced a curse on you,
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that would seem pretty
harsh, because this wasn't just,
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you're gonna lose
your toys for the day.
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You know, or
you're not gonna let me,
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I'm not gonna let you
work with me in the garden.
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It's not just temporary.
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Yeah, I mean, it's not just,
you know, slap on the wrist.
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This is, you
know, this followed them
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through their whole life.
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That's right.
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So the question is,
wasn't this kind of severe,
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wasn't this, you
know, a little unnecessary.
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And what really we
need to considered is,
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number one, the culture.
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This is oriental
culture of the time.
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This is, this is
not American culture
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that we are looking at here.
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Back then, you know,
the fifth commands says,
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"Honor thy Father and Mother."
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One of the most
important things in this culture
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at the time was
respect for elders.
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You know, you didn't
just walk in on them,
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if they're
having a conversation,
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you know, you
didn't talked back to them.
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If the Bible says, you know,
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the gray hair of
a man is his wisdom,
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you know, so just by appearance,
00:21:22.68\00:21:25.00
you know, if a
man had gray hair,
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you would respect him. Right.
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No matter who he was.
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This was the
degree to which respect
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was given in this culture.
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And so for Canaan, for Ham
to see his father's nakedness,
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number one, probably
when he went into the tent
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or whatever it was.
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This was something
that you'd already have
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in your mind ahead of time.
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I need to be cautious.
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I mean, my father is in here.
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Who knows what he's doing.
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He could be
sleeping, you know, so,
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so you, it's a mind set.
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You know, so we, sometimes
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you need to pay
attention what the Bible
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is not saying to find
out why this is happened.
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You know, so he
probably maybe just
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charged right
in there, you know.
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And all of a sudden, boom.
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There he is, his
father's naked and then
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to make it worse he...in my mind
00:22:04.32\00:22:07.20
at least he goes
and tells his brothers.
00:22:07.21\00:22:08.84
He spreads the word.
00:22:08.85\00:22:09.82
He spread them all, you
know, and once again the Bible
00:22:09.83\00:22:11.91
doesn't say in what
manner he spread the word.
00:22:11.92\00:22:14.64
Maybe he was joking
about it, maybe thought
00:22:14.65\00:22:16.50
it was kind of a funny thing.
00:22:16.51\00:22:17.82
We don't know but,
you know, but it is very
00:22:17.83\00:22:19.98
likely because the curse,
you know, the curse points to,
00:22:19.99\00:22:24.41
this is the severity of
the circumstances. Right.
00:22:24.42\00:22:26.97
And so he tells
his two brothers,
00:22:26.98\00:22:29.19
you know, big
joke maybe who knows.
00:22:29.20\00:22:31.56
But the fact is that
it was serious enough
00:22:31.57\00:22:33.15
to where the two brothers
went in there with a blanket,
00:22:33.16\00:22:35.66
and they go into the
tent and they're not,
00:22:35.67\00:22:37.58
they don't even look to
see where they're going,
00:22:37.59\00:22:38.89
they just kind of, you
know, they're walking back
00:22:38.90\00:22:40.46
with the
blanket looking forward,
00:22:40.47\00:22:42.29
the father is behind them,
00:22:42.30\00:22:43.33
they put the
blanket down, you know.
00:22:43.34\00:22:45.03
So they don't accidentally
see him naked. Right.
00:22:45.04\00:22:48.58
So we have to considered
the culture of the time.
00:22:48.59\00:22:52.35
That's why it was so, so
severe of what had happened.
00:22:52.36\00:22:55.99
We don't understand
this in American culture,
00:22:56.00\00:22:58.50
because it seems
like in many families,
00:22:58.51\00:23:00.11
there is no
boundary lines, you know.
00:23:00.12\00:23:03.19
And you know, it's we just don't
00:23:03.20\00:23:05.62
live in this culture today.
00:23:05.63\00:23:06.72
We don't see respect
for elders the way we do.
00:23:06.73\00:23:09.71
We don't see respect for
elders in the Bible as we,
00:23:09.72\00:23:12.21
as, you know, we
see it in the America,
00:23:12.22\00:23:14.22
it just almost
seems non-existence.
00:23:14.23\00:23:16.76
Kids talking about
their parents, you know,
00:23:16.77\00:23:18.76
I grew up not in the church
00:23:18.77\00:23:20.39
so I had a lot of
worldly friends and man,
00:23:20.40\00:23:22.13
I can tell you a
story upon story on
00:23:22.14\00:23:23.80
how some of my friends
talked to their parents.
00:23:23.81\00:23:25.11
I couldn't believe
it, because even though
00:23:25.12\00:23:26.57
we didn't grow up in a
religious home per say.
00:23:26.58\00:23:29.04
We were taught respect,
you know, we were taught,
00:23:29.05\00:23:31.77
you know, you don't
taught back to your parents.
00:23:31.78\00:23:34.34
You don't swear in
front of your parents,
00:23:34.35\00:23:36.72
you know, any of
the stuff and man,
00:23:36.73\00:23:38.88
I had some friends growing up,
00:23:38.89\00:23:39.99
I can't even tell you
half the things they said.
00:23:40.00\00:23:42.46
I mean, they were
talking to their parents
00:23:42.47\00:23:43.58
like they were dirt on
the side of the street.
00:23:43.59\00:23:45.64
And it was tolerated, you know.
00:23:45.65\00:23:47.29
So we don't see
this kind of respect
00:23:47.30\00:23:49.35
in our American culture.
00:23:49.36\00:23:51.18
I think it's common also there
00:23:51.19\00:23:52.50
by Christ as in
the days of Noah,
00:23:52.51\00:23:54.44
so it will be just before
the coming of the son of man.
00:23:54.45\00:23:58.29
So what we see today
in the mistreating of kids
00:23:58.30\00:24:01.96
and disrespecting of
kids toward their parents
00:24:01.97\00:24:03.90
I believe it was manifested
00:24:03.91\00:24:05.50
in what Ham did
with his father of Noah.
00:24:05.51\00:24:08.35
Right, I think that's
substantiated by the fact,
00:24:08.36\00:24:11.37
the time again
throughout God's word you find,
00:24:11.38\00:24:13.73
this call to
respecting your parents.
00:24:13.74\00:24:16.53
You know, call to obedience
from children to parents.
00:24:16.54\00:24:19.62
Ham has obviously saw
him and talked lot about it.
00:24:19.63\00:24:22.10
I think it's Timothy,
or Peter talks about it,
00:24:22.11\00:24:23.68
in the last days we shall see,
you know, disobedient children.
00:24:23.69\00:24:27.42
I mean, this is a
pretty big issues,
00:24:27.43\00:24:28.81
and once again
the fifth commandment,
00:24:28.82\00:24:30.72
you know, honor
thy Father and Mother.
00:24:30.73\00:24:32.77
So it was a
pretty serious thing,
00:24:32.78\00:24:34.50
we may not understand it,
00:24:34.51\00:24:35.79
but when we consider
the culture of the time,
00:24:35.80\00:24:38.34
it may become a
little more clear as to
00:24:38.35\00:24:40.84
why the curse was so
severe and pronounce. Sure.
00:24:40.85\00:24:43.88
And this is obviously in note
00:24:43.89\00:24:44.86
of his violence
of code of living.
00:24:44.87\00:24:47.61
Exactly, exactly.
Thank you very much.
00:24:47.62\00:24:49.45
That was a good question.
00:24:49.46\00:24:50.83
We appreciate
you sending that in.
00:24:50.84\00:24:52.30
You know, we can
learn little pieces of,
00:24:52.31\00:24:55.83
you know, little nuggets of
truth especially as we elevate,
00:24:55.84\00:24:58.69
you know, thinking
about God's commandments.
00:24:58.70\00:25:00.08
We elevate that fifth
commandment to a standard
00:25:00.09\00:25:02.37
where with we might
not really give it unless
00:25:02.38\00:25:05.56
we see in these old
stories really kind of
00:25:05.57\00:25:08.51
how important it is to God
00:25:08.52\00:25:10.20
that we treat our
elders with respect.
00:25:10.21\00:25:12.75
And so I encourage you
if you are young person
00:25:12.76\00:25:15.48
to always respect your parents
00:25:15.49\00:25:17.87
and those who
are older and wiser.
00:25:17.88\00:25:23.23
Older and wiser,
hopefully older and wiser.
00:25:23.24\00:25:24.72
Yes, all right.
00:25:24.73\00:25:25.83
I have one last
question before we dive
00:25:25.84\00:25:27.44
into our subject
here and I don't want to
00:25:27.45\00:25:28.90
spend a lot of time on it.
00:25:28.91\00:25:30.00
We could do an entire
program on this, Kevin.
00:25:30.01\00:25:32.06
But I'm not gonna do that
here but I will touch on it
00:25:32.07\00:25:35.34
because we receive
several questions on it,
00:25:35.35\00:25:37.68
and also recently
wrote a paper about it.
00:25:37.69\00:25:39.79
So it says, greetings
in the name of Christ.
00:25:39.80\00:25:44.03
What was the Daily
sacrifice in Daniel?
00:25:44.04\00:25:47.60
What does it mean?
00:25:47.61\00:25:49.55
There is a couple
different interpretations,
00:25:49.56\00:25:51.70
number one, it means paganism.
00:25:51.71\00:25:54.43
And in another case, it
was the ministry of Christ.
00:25:54.44\00:25:58.63
It doesn't, he
is not reading that,
00:25:58.64\00:26:00.18
it saying that
exactly but that's accomplish
00:26:00.19\00:26:02.42
kinds of some
question, different questions
00:26:02.43\00:26:03.97
we received on this.
00:26:03.98\00:26:05.35
And that is currently
the church's view of that.
00:26:05.36\00:26:07.65
It was the Daily is
the minister of Christ
00:26:07.66\00:26:10.37
in the heavenly sanctuary,
00:26:10.38\00:26:11.93
and the truth that
go along with that.
00:26:11.94\00:26:15.39
So he says which is
which, you know, what's right?
00:26:15.40\00:26:17.98
Well, it's interesting to know,
00:26:17.99\00:26:19.25
if you go back into our history,
00:26:19.26\00:26:21.17
history of the
Seventh-day Adventist church,
00:26:21.18\00:26:22.64
you will find that the
pioneers got into a debate
00:26:22.65\00:26:27.28
over this issue at
the turn of this century,
00:26:27.29\00:26:29.38
and that is the
eighteenth century
00:26:29.39\00:26:30.70
into the nineteenth century.
00:26:30.71\00:26:32.36
And as they began
to debate this issue,
00:26:32.37\00:26:34.60
they elevated to a level
a test within the church.
00:26:34.61\00:26:40.01
And Sister White, who is there
to provide counsel at times,
00:26:40.02\00:26:44.54
stepped in, this
time on inspired counsels
00:26:44.55\00:26:48.44
just simply to say, I don't
have any light on this issue,
00:26:48.45\00:26:51.85
don't divide over
it, don't elevate this
00:26:51.86\00:26:53.74
to a standard of a test.
00:26:53.75\00:26:55.38
It is not something
that place we need to go,
00:26:55.39\00:26:57.49
let's stay united
and stick with sharing
00:26:57.50\00:26:59.43
the gospel in its
true, in its true form,
00:26:59.44\00:27:01.74
the three angels
messages and other things
00:27:01.75\00:27:03.30
that are
surrounding the importance,
00:27:03.31\00:27:04.91
you know, parts of
the everlasting gospel.
00:27:04.92\00:27:07.84
So she counseled on
both sides, you said,
00:27:07.85\00:27:09.93
you know, you guys
grew up, stop, you stop,
00:27:09.94\00:27:13.14
I don't have any special thing.
00:27:13.15\00:27:14.41
We know shouldn't
elevate this, stop.
00:27:14.42\00:27:17.18
Now that being said,
today it's happening again.
00:27:17.19\00:27:22.56
There some who are creating
ministries out of this issue
00:27:22.57\00:27:26.73
and they're doing
so to raise the level
00:27:26.74\00:27:32.00
of how you define the Daily
into a test within the church.
00:27:32.01\00:27:36.01
Well, you know,
you're not a true Adventist
00:27:36.02\00:27:37.51
unless you believe as the
pioneers initially believed
00:27:37.52\00:27:40.95
which was that it was paganism,
00:27:40.96\00:27:43.03
and that's exactly what
they did initially believe.
00:27:43.04\00:27:45.30
They thought that the
Daily was referring to paganism,
00:27:45.31\00:27:49.94
not that it referred
to the ministry of Christ
00:27:49.95\00:27:52.29
and heavenly sanctuary.
00:27:52.30\00:27:53.89
But as time went on,
00:27:53.90\00:27:56.74
a further
understanding of Christ ministry
00:27:56.75\00:27:58.82
in the heavenly
sanctuary which we covered
00:27:58.83\00:28:00.36
in the topic here recently,
a question we had before
00:28:00.37\00:28:03.27
that the church then
adopted the view that it was,
00:28:03.28\00:28:06.68
in fact, referring to
the Daily ministry of Christ
00:28:06.69\00:28:08.62
not to paganism itself.
00:28:08.63\00:28:10.58
Now I have a paper that
I recently wrote on that
00:28:10.59\00:28:13.16
the issue of the
Daily and it was to,
00:28:13.17\00:28:15.98
hopefully kind of
harmonize writings
00:28:15.99\00:28:19.69
we have from
Ellen White scripture.
00:28:19.70\00:28:22.62
There is a detail verse by
verse and actually word study
00:28:22.63\00:28:27.80
within the passage
of Daniel chapter 8
00:28:27.81\00:28:30.72
that's really and in
also 11 is in there too,
00:28:30.73\00:28:33.88
with regard to the Daily.
00:28:33.89\00:28:36.57
So I put this together
with the intent on giving it
00:28:36.58\00:28:39.27
to anybody who is confused
on it or who wants to know.
00:28:39.28\00:28:41.57
I offer that to you.
00:28:41.58\00:28:42.77
If you want a copy of
the paper that I did on this,
00:28:42.78\00:28:45.45
so it's about 10 or 11 pages,
00:28:45.46\00:28:46.69
it's not too long I
can send that to you.
00:28:46.70\00:28:48.66
If you would emailed
at pastorstanton@gmail.com
00:28:48.67\00:28:52.82
pastorstanton@gmail.com I
am happy to just attach it
00:28:52.83\00:28:58.39
and send it back
to you and hopefully
00:28:58.40\00:29:00.91
it will help to
clarify what some of the issues
00:29:00.92\00:29:02.69
are currently on that,
but it took a while to study
00:29:02.70\00:29:06.41
that out and it will
take an entire couple programs
00:29:06.42\00:29:09.20
really to do that.
00:29:09.21\00:29:10.46
But there is strong foundation
for the church's current view
00:29:10.47\00:29:14.00
that it is
accurate, it is correct,
00:29:14.01\00:29:15.96
and we should stay
unified on that. Right.
00:29:15.97\00:29:18.03
And focus on the
ministry that we have
00:29:18.04\00:29:19.67
which is
reaching souls for Christ.
00:29:19.68\00:29:21.59
Exactly, it's pretty sad when a,
00:29:21.60\00:29:24.66
sometimes obscure aspect of
scripture become such a bone
00:29:24.67\00:29:28.99
of contention that it
divide us in the stories.
00:29:29.00\00:29:31.05
And that's not what
God's word is design to do.
00:29:31.06\00:29:33.58
It's unifies us. Absolutely.
00:29:33.59\00:29:35.37
And if there any word
is the little obscure,
00:29:35.38\00:29:38.37
you know, where
there is just really
00:29:38.38\00:29:39.60
not a lot of evidence
at the time, you know.
00:29:39.61\00:29:41.30
And I have to say,
00:29:41.31\00:29:42.28
we have gathered
enough now but, you know.
00:29:42.29\00:29:44.34
It should not be
a matter of division
00:29:44.35\00:29:46.87
absolutely not, you know.
00:29:46.88\00:29:48.81
So we need to very careful
and cautious of these things.
00:29:48.82\00:29:51.43
You know, the
center piece there too,
00:29:51.44\00:29:53.20
just to kind of
give a little nugget.
00:29:53.21\00:29:56.07
Sister White
needs to comment that,
00:29:56.08\00:29:57.82
they were all
united at one point
00:29:57.83\00:30:00.51
on their view of the
Daily and the context of that,
00:30:00.52\00:30:04.01
you have to read
the entire passage there
00:30:04.02\00:30:05.57
from early writings.
00:30:05.58\00:30:06.72
The context of that was
that they were united against
00:30:06.73\00:30:10.79
a literal interpretation of the
sanctuary and the sacrifices.
00:30:10.80\00:30:15.80
They view the
sanctuary, the sacrifices
00:30:15.81\00:30:18.32
as being referring to
the heavenly sanctuary,
00:30:18.33\00:30:21.40
Christ ministry there.
00:30:21.41\00:30:23.04
The word sacrifice
was added to the text
00:30:23.05\00:30:25.43
and those that were talking
that were sacrificed to teach
00:30:25.44\00:30:28.39
that it was literal
and occurring in Jerusalem,
00:30:28.40\00:30:31.67
that we need to
go there and somehow
00:30:31.68\00:30:34.07
unite around this significant
event, was inaccurate.
00:30:34.08\00:30:37.90
And so when she says,
00:30:37.91\00:30:39.39
we were all united in
our view of the Daily.
00:30:39.40\00:30:41.34
She was saying, united in
that it was Christ ministry,
00:30:41.35\00:30:44.40
not united in our
interpretation of the meanings,
00:30:44.41\00:30:47.26
specific meaning
about of the Daily.
00:30:47.27\00:30:49.36
And that's important.
00:30:49.37\00:30:50.34
Yeah, and later
on, we know this true,
00:30:50.35\00:30:52.82
because later on
when she writes counsel,
00:30:52.83\00:30:54.67
provides counsel on
the issues, she says,
00:30:54.68\00:30:56.35
I have no knowledge as
to the meaning of the Daily.
00:30:56.36\00:30:59.35
So she doesn't
contradict herself
00:30:59.36\00:31:02.18
but people want
to read into that
00:31:02.19\00:31:04.47
and they want to make
it an issue and I just,
00:31:04.48\00:31:06.72
I want to encourage all you
really get on strong foundation
00:31:06.73\00:31:09.76
and read both
sides of the issue.
00:31:09.77\00:31:11.36
You've heard only
one, read the other as well
00:31:11.37\00:31:13.98
and I believe the Lord will lead
00:31:13.99\00:31:15.79
and blessed by
uniting His people together.
00:31:15.80\00:31:18.32
Okay, well, thank you very
much for all your questions.
00:31:18.33\00:31:20.79
Let me put up the
email address one more time.
00:31:20.80\00:31:23.14
For you, you can
send your questions
00:31:23.15\00:31:24.70
to housecalls@3abn.org,
that's housecalls@3abn.org
00:31:24.71\00:31:31.27
and again we look
forward to receiving those
00:31:31.28\00:31:34.10
and allowing your questions
to be part of this program.
00:31:34.11\00:31:37.51
That's always an exciting part.
00:31:37.52\00:31:39.91
Kevin, let's dive
into our topic today.
00:31:39.92\00:31:42.31
It's on the power of
grace and there are so many
00:31:42.32\00:31:45.51
different things
that we can learn from
00:31:45.52\00:31:49.44
or learn about the grace of God
00:31:49.45\00:31:51.18
that I think we have
not really even touched
00:31:51.19\00:31:53.68
the surface on, as we
dived into the scripture.
00:31:53.69\00:31:57.57
This is one of
those topics where,
00:31:57.58\00:31:59.20
you know, at first
hearing the word grace,
00:31:59.21\00:32:01.70
oh, yeah, everybody
knows what grace is.
00:32:01.71\00:32:03.85
But then when you
start to dig, it's like mine,
00:32:03.86\00:32:06.28
this is like mining,
digging down for oil and stuff.
00:32:06.29\00:32:09.25
And it really is,
it's deep, you know,
00:32:09.26\00:32:10.88
and it's not just one meaning.
00:32:10.89\00:32:13.40
It wasn't really the
beauty of the word...Yeah, so...
00:32:13.41\00:32:15.41
Yeah, I know that a lot of us,
00:32:15.42\00:32:16.95
you know, we've assigned
this meaning of unmerited favor.
00:32:16.96\00:32:20.03
Right. And
that's a good meaning,
00:32:20.04\00:32:21.84
I mean, that's kind
of a general meaning,
00:32:21.85\00:32:24.31
it is God bestowing favor
upon others, that's His grace.
00:32:24.32\00:32:27.75
When God blesses us, He
is being gracious to us,
00:32:27.76\00:32:31.48
but there is something
deeper to grace and that's why
00:32:31.49\00:32:34.23
I wanted to
cover it in the sense
00:32:34.24\00:32:35.80
of its power in our lives.
00:32:35.81\00:32:38.34
And so we will do that
over a couple of programs here.
00:32:38.35\00:32:41.45
I wanted to use as
a springboard text.
00:32:41.46\00:32:44.80
A place that maybe
people wouldn't ordinarily go
00:32:44.81\00:32:48.16
and that is in the book of Jude.
00:32:48.17\00:32:49.96
If you turn with us
to the book of Jude.
00:32:49.97\00:32:52.33
It's only one chapter
long but I'm gonna read
00:32:52.34\00:32:55.23
verses 3 and 4 and just
point out something to you
00:32:55.24\00:32:59.68
that I think is important
for all of us to be aware of,
00:32:59.69\00:33:03.93
because it does help
to provide some insights
00:33:03.94\00:33:06.81
into how the grace of
God is being mistaught,
00:33:06.82\00:33:11.91
misused, misinterpreted,
whatever you have it
00:33:11.92\00:33:15.59
within Christianity today.
00:33:15.60\00:33:17.98
I'm gonna read
here verses 3 and 4
00:33:17.99\00:33:20.09
from the book of Jude.
00:33:20.10\00:33:21.64
It says, Beloved,
while I was very diligent
00:33:21.65\00:33:24.76
to write to you
concerning our common salvation,
00:33:24.77\00:33:27.96
I found it necessary to
write to you exhorting you.
00:33:27.97\00:33:31.23
So this time
he's not just writing,
00:33:31.24\00:33:33.26
he is exhorting,
he is admonishing,
00:33:33.27\00:33:35.73
he's encouraging them
00:33:35.74\00:33:36.83
to contend
earnestly for the faith,
00:33:36.84\00:33:39.90
which was once for all
delivered to the saints.
00:33:39.91\00:33:43.14
And here is why he is
writing to them, exhorting them.
00:33:43.15\00:33:46.38
For certain men
have crept in unnoticed,
00:33:46.39\00:33:51.46
they've crept
into where? The church.
00:33:51.47\00:33:54.57
Unnoticed, who
long ago were marked out
00:33:54.58\00:33:57.56
for this
condemnation, ungodly men.
00:33:57.57\00:34:00.56
And here's what they do,
00:34:00.57\00:34:02.19
they turn the grace
of our God into lewdness.
00:34:02.20\00:34:07.77
I like NIV's
actually translation
00:34:07.78\00:34:11.14
of that word for lewdness,
00:34:11.15\00:34:12.71
it says license for immorality.
00:34:12.72\00:34:16.91
Into a license for
immorality or license for sin,
00:34:16.92\00:34:20.56
and deny the only Lord
God and our Lord Jesus Christ.
00:34:20.57\00:34:25.04
Now if I was gonna
put this in simple terms,
00:34:25.05\00:34:28.37
I would say that what Jude was
saying to the church was that
00:34:28.38\00:34:31.44
men would come in and
teach that the grace of God
00:34:31.45\00:34:35.86
gives you a license to kind
of go about life as you please,
00:34:35.87\00:34:39.75
because it's all
covered by the grace of God.
00:34:39.76\00:34:42.68
And it gives them,
this cheap grace gives them
00:34:42.69\00:34:46.39
the license to commit even sin.
00:34:46.40\00:34:48.75
To go about their
life in a sinful way
00:34:48.76\00:34:50.65
because God's done it all.
00:34:50.66\00:34:53.22
And the other thing that he
hits on there is it diminishes
00:34:53.23\00:34:57.22
the importance of
the commandments of God,
00:34:57.23\00:34:59.21
which Jesus clearly
says if you love me,
00:34:59.22\00:35:01.05
keep my commandments.
00:35:01.06\00:35:02.06
So this cheap grace,
these men that creep in
00:35:02.07\00:35:07.73
that are
distorting the word of God
00:35:07.74\00:35:09.89
and they're destroying
the doctrine of grace.
00:35:09.90\00:35:12.45
Or actually elevating or
actually reducing the standard
00:35:12.46\00:35:15.58
that God has for us.
00:35:15.59\00:35:17.23
But allowing
people or teaching them,
00:35:17.24\00:35:20.82
it's okay to kind of
just live as you please.
00:35:20.83\00:35:22.71
Because once you're
saved, you're always saved,
00:35:22.72\00:35:24.32
that's another aspect of it.
00:35:24.33\00:35:25.80
The other part
is that, you know,
00:35:25.81\00:35:27.70
God is going to cover it anyway.
00:35:27.71\00:35:28.81
He's forgiving so, you
know, it doesn't really mean
00:35:28.82\00:35:31.23
that you
shouldn't try to eradicate
00:35:31.24\00:35:33.23
or push sin out of your life.
00:35:33.24\00:35:34.70
That's another topic, you
know, we've covered before,
00:35:34.71\00:35:36.64
but this is a doctrine
00:35:36.65\00:35:41.12
that is essential
to the Christian faith.
00:35:41.13\00:35:42.92
It's a part of
our common salvation,
00:35:42.93\00:35:44.95
which Jude wrote
about and it's something
00:35:44.96\00:35:47.41
that we need to
understand in this great context
00:35:47.42\00:35:49.31
or the other doctrines
that are surrounding it,
00:35:49.32\00:35:51.60
that are part of
it will fall apart.
00:35:51.61\00:35:54.59
I'd like to know in verse 4,
00:35:54.60\00:35:55.96
it says for certain men
have crept in unnoticed.
00:35:55.97\00:35:59.39
And then the second line says,
00:35:59.40\00:36:02.15
who long ago were marked
out for this condemnation.
00:36:02.16\00:36:06.65
It seems the text is saying
00:36:06.66\00:36:09.01
that they may not be conscience,
00:36:09.02\00:36:11.05
that the conscience
that they are doing.
00:36:11.06\00:36:12.65
In other words, just may not be
00:36:12.66\00:36:14.07
a pre-planned
attack on their part.
00:36:14.08\00:36:17.32
They may not say
ahead of time, okay,
00:36:17.33\00:36:18.74
this is what we're gonna do,
00:36:18.75\00:36:19.72
we're gonna go into the church,
00:36:19.73\00:36:20.70
we're gonna teach this,
we're gonna corrupt this.
00:36:20.71\00:36:21.68
Exactly.
00:36:21.69\00:36:22.66
You know, the
truth of salvation.
00:36:22.67\00:36:24.09
But the fact that they
were marked out long ago
00:36:24.10\00:36:26.74
for this
condemnation, tells me one thing
00:36:26.75\00:36:28.20
that these are
pawns of the devil.
00:36:28.21\00:36:30.72
You know, which means that,
00:36:30.73\00:36:32.17
that this is a very important
aspect of biblical teaching,
00:36:32.18\00:36:35.32
a very important doctrine
that the devil wants to corrupt.
00:36:35.33\00:36:38.05
That he wanted to
corrupt the early pure church,
00:36:38.06\00:36:40.04
I mean, you know,
the church was new,
00:36:40.05\00:36:43.35
there was a lot
of, it was brand new,
00:36:43.36\00:36:44.92
there was a lot of
questions, a lot of wondering,
00:36:44.93\00:36:46.75
a lot of joy, a
lot of, you know.
00:36:46.76\00:36:48.58
And in the midst of these
all these brand new experience,
00:36:48.59\00:36:51.01
that's when the devil
wanted to hit the hardest.
00:36:51.02\00:36:52.82
Yeah. You know, so of
course, he had his little pawns
00:36:52.83\00:36:55.19
and so this is
such an important,
00:36:55.20\00:36:56.59
is such a
probably is a great topic.
00:36:56.60\00:36:59.70
Because you're right, grace
isn't just a one time deal.
00:36:59.71\00:37:03.83
It's not, I don't want
to get too far into it.
00:37:03.84\00:37:06.39
Yeah. But you're right.
00:37:06.40\00:37:07.37
It's not a one time
thing, God's always,
00:37:07.38\00:37:10.08
his grace is at the forefront
of our entire experience.
00:37:10.09\00:37:12.36
Yeah, you know,
this manifested itself,
00:37:12.37\00:37:15.54
this creeping in of
men with this doctrine
00:37:15.55\00:37:17.87
is manifesting
itself in a couple ways
00:37:17.88\00:37:19.65
in the early church.
00:37:19.66\00:37:20.74
You will find that in
00:37:20.75\00:37:23.26
Revelation
chapter 2 verses 6 and 15,
00:37:23.27\00:37:27.83
there is a reference
to a people where it says,
00:37:27.84\00:37:33.17
here indeed to the church,
00:37:33.18\00:37:34.85
the message of
the church of Ephesus,
00:37:34.86\00:37:36.83
Revelation 2 verse 6 it says,
00:37:36.84\00:37:38.97
But this you have
that you hate the deeds
00:37:38.98\00:37:40.88
of the
Nicolaitans, which I also hate.
00:37:40.89\00:37:43.69
Then in verse 15 to the
church in Pergamos he says,
00:37:43.70\00:37:48.12
thus you also have
those who hold to the doctrine
00:37:48.13\00:37:52.17
of the
Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.
00:37:52.18\00:37:55.68
And if you do a
study on the Nicolaitans,
00:37:55.69\00:37:57.58
you know what
their major teaching was?
00:37:57.59\00:38:00.17
They believed in antinomianism
which is disregarding the law.
00:38:00.18\00:38:04.50
The law no longer is
obligatory, it's no longer,
00:38:04.51\00:38:07.57
do what you please.
00:38:07.58\00:38:09.31
And so the fruit of what
Jude was talking about there,
00:38:09.32\00:38:12.80
found it's way
into the early church
00:38:12.81\00:38:14.56
where the
Nicolaitans took the hold,
00:38:14.57\00:38:17.07
inserted their
doctrine of, you know,
00:38:17.08\00:38:20.29
grace is wonderful and you
can kind of go as you please,
00:38:20.30\00:38:22.63
don't worry about the law.
00:38:22.64\00:38:24.10
And there was
this imbalance then.
00:38:24.11\00:38:25.65
Grace up here, the
law just gone, right,
00:38:25.66\00:38:29.21
and find that again today.
00:38:29.22\00:38:30.84
And contextually in Rome,
that was pretty encompassing,
00:38:30.85\00:38:33.95
do as you please. Right.
00:38:33.96\00:38:35.24
Because we look at the
practices of the Romans,
00:38:35.25\00:38:36.90
I mean, it was
pretty, real pretty repulsive.
00:38:36.91\00:38:39.46
But it's not that different
from what we're seeing today.
00:38:39.47\00:38:41.88
Right. You know, I
mean, when you look
00:38:41.89\00:38:43.28
at the span of
history, you know,
00:38:43.29\00:38:45.11
inequity is always abandoned.
00:38:45.12\00:38:46.60
There's always
been lewdness and lust,
00:38:46.61\00:38:49.56
and all these kinds
of other sins, you know.
00:38:49.57\00:38:51.45
It always existed,
because men are corrupt,
00:38:51.46\00:38:54.05
but now in this day
and age, you see such a,
00:38:54.06\00:38:56.55
almost a parallel to
what was happening in Rome.
00:38:56.56\00:38:59.04
I mean, it was
just, it was nothing to be
00:38:59.05\00:39:02.35
ashamed of anymore. Right.
00:39:02.36\00:39:03.43
You know, look at the billboard
and looked at the billboards,
00:39:03.44\00:39:05.86
everywhere you
look on the billboards,
00:39:05.87\00:39:06.93
you know, sex is
selling everything
00:39:06.94\00:39:08.71
from cologne to butter.
00:39:08.72\00:39:12.10
Yeah, I know, it's true.
00:39:12.11\00:39:13.28
You know, and this is so,
when this was being taught
00:39:13.29\00:39:18.71
that you can do as you please.
00:39:18.72\00:39:20.33
This wasn't, this
wasn't a matter of eating
00:39:20.34\00:39:23.40
unclean meat or meat,
00:39:23.41\00:39:25.01
I mean, this is
we're talking about
00:39:25.02\00:39:26.05
some serious practices that were
00:39:26.06\00:39:27.64
clearly forbidden
by God, all for us.
00:39:27.65\00:39:29.40
Right, this wasn't a gray area.
00:39:29.41\00:39:30.38
This is the area
that where we're clearly,
00:39:30.39\00:39:32.31
an area that was hated
by God through the doctrine
00:39:32.32\00:39:35.95
of the Nicolaitans
which are tied into
00:39:35.96\00:39:37.42
what they're talking about.
00:39:37.43\00:39:38.74
And he commends them for
hating those very things.
00:39:38.75\00:39:40.33
That's right. You
know, it was that bad.
00:39:40.34\00:39:42.72
So, you know, as
we look at this then,
00:39:42.73\00:39:44.74
if it came into
the early church.
00:39:44.75\00:39:47.23
You know, Kevin, we
got to ask ourselves,
00:39:47.24\00:39:48.91
is it here again?
00:39:48.92\00:39:51.15
And I would say,
it absolutely is.
00:39:51.16\00:39:52.81
Yes and I would say
even in full strength.
00:39:52.82\00:39:54.39
Because, today one of
the predominate teachings is,
00:39:54.40\00:39:58.97
it spring boards off a verse,
00:39:58.98\00:40:00.69
which we're gonna go to next.
00:40:00.70\00:40:01.78
Let's go to Ephesians Chapter 2,
00:40:01.79\00:40:03.67
if take Ephesians Chapter 2
00:40:03.68\00:40:05.04
and they read verses 8
and 9 and they stopped.
00:40:05.05\00:40:08.60
And they stopped exactly.
00:40:08.61\00:40:10.58
And so, let's read the
verse and that the passage here
00:40:10.59\00:40:15.37
and then we'll
talk a little bit about
00:40:15.38\00:40:16.66
what we're finding
in the church today.
00:40:16.67\00:40:19.81
In fact, why don't you go ahead
00:40:19.82\00:40:20.79
and read that for us
if you have that, Kevin.
00:40:20.80\00:40:21.97
Just kind of go through 8 and 9,
00:40:21.98\00:40:23.34
just stop right there so.
00:40:23.35\00:40:25.62
The Bible says in
Ephesians Chapter 2 verse 8,
00:40:25.63\00:40:27.51
For by grace you have
been saved through faith;
00:40:27.52\00:40:31.03
and that not of yourselves:
00:40:31.04\00:40:32.66
It is the gift of God,
00:40:32.67\00:40:34.09
not of works, lest
anyone should boast.
00:40:34.10\00:40:36.97
Okay, you know, we
recently finished a program,
00:40:36.98\00:40:41.56
not too long ago on, kind
of obedience verses legalism
00:40:41.57\00:40:47.26
and how works comes into
play of this whole thing.
00:40:47.27\00:40:50.94
We talked a lot
about the grace of God
00:40:50.95\00:40:52.48
and how faith is
involved there too.
00:40:52.49\00:40:54.90
Not in the way we're
gonna talked about it today.
00:40:54.91\00:40:56.42
But clearly we saw
that there was a grace
00:40:56.43\00:41:01.98
as where you begin in
your relationship with Christ.
00:41:01.99\00:41:04.72
We cannot commend
ourselves to Christ.
00:41:04.73\00:41:06.99
We can't recommend, chose me,
00:41:07.00\00:41:09.53
because of anything we've done.
00:41:09.54\00:41:11.40
We are nothing but filthy rags.
00:41:11.41\00:41:13.25
We don't have anything offer,
00:41:13.26\00:41:14.53
we are sinful human beings.
00:41:14.54\00:41:16.58
It's God's grace that
allows us to experience,
00:41:16.59\00:41:20.11
begin to experience
salvation in Christ.
00:41:20.12\00:41:22.89
And it has to
be free from there,
00:41:22.90\00:41:25.05
the analogy is
used when you're dirty
00:41:25.06\00:41:28.34
and you're coming in
from working outside all day
00:41:28.35\00:41:30.88
and you need to shower.
00:41:30.89\00:41:32.46
What if the qualification
for getting in the shower
00:41:32.47\00:41:34.72
was you have to
clean yourself first?
00:41:34.73\00:41:37.11
How far would you get? I mean,
00:41:37.12\00:41:39.07
if you had to get cleaned
before you get in the shower,
00:41:39.08\00:41:41.90
you know, you
wouldn't go anywhere.
00:41:41.91\00:41:43.22
You wouldn't go in the shower.
00:41:43.23\00:41:45.05
And today it's the same way,
00:41:45.06\00:41:46.59
you know, we shouldn't,
00:41:46.60\00:41:48.23
where we shouldn't be
concerned with our works
00:41:48.24\00:41:49.89
and what we have done
before we get into shower.
00:41:49.90\00:41:52.73
It's once we get in the shower
00:41:52.74\00:41:54.00
that God cleans us up,
00:41:54.01\00:41:55.13
gives us the free gift of
salvation and then says now,
00:41:55.14\00:41:58.32
walk with me in cleanness.
00:41:58.33\00:42:00.56
And then our
life become changed.
00:42:00.57\00:42:02.49
And so in that respect
this verse is telling us
00:42:02.50\00:42:05.99
that the grace
is where we began.
00:42:06.00\00:42:07.71
Right, because we
couldn't do anything
00:42:07.72\00:42:09.46
in and of ourselves.
00:42:09.47\00:42:10.44
You know, Isaiah says,
00:42:10.45\00:42:11.42
can a leopard change its spots
00:42:11.43\00:42:12.57
or the
Ethiopian change its skin.
00:42:12.58\00:42:15.06
We're lost. That's right.
00:42:15.07\00:42:16.29
You know, we're lost
00:42:16.30\00:42:17.27
and we're in a lost condition.
00:42:17.28\00:42:18.60
If we could do anything in the,
00:42:18.61\00:42:22.96
I don't wanna use a formula.
00:42:22.97\00:42:24.18
If we could add anything
to our salvation in the work
00:42:24.19\00:42:28.72
that was necessary to
save us from... Right.
00:42:28.73\00:42:31.96
Then it would
dismantle the whole entire
00:42:31.97\00:42:34.12
everything that Christ
had done. That's right.
00:42:34.13\00:42:35.70
Because then angels could
have come instead of Christ,
00:42:35.71\00:42:38.24
you know, If and you know,
00:42:38.25\00:42:40.05
so it's got to be
all Christ or nothing.
00:42:40.06\00:42:42.73
Which means its grace,
00:42:42.74\00:42:44.13
and the
beautiful thing about that
00:42:44.14\00:42:45.67
is the means that we
all in the same level ground
00:42:45.68\00:42:48.23
at the foot of
the cross, you know.
00:42:48.24\00:42:50.99
It's the same, it's
the grace that saved me,
00:42:51.00\00:42:52.88
you know, it's the
grace that brought me
00:42:52.89\00:42:54.47
into a relationship with him
00:42:54.48\00:42:55.86
and it's the same
grace that brought you
00:42:55.87\00:42:57.00
into a
relationship with Him. Amen.
00:42:57.01\00:42:58.56
So no matter how,
00:42:58.57\00:43:00.54
no matter how ugly
of a life you're leading
00:43:00.55\00:43:02.60
or how apparently okay, so,
so over life you're leading.
00:43:02.61\00:43:06.32
It doesn't matter
we're all lost at the same,
00:43:06.33\00:43:08.46
at the same level.
00:43:08.47\00:43:09.55
It's only about
the grace of God.
00:43:09.56\00:43:10.84
So as we look at
this verse and I think
00:43:10.85\00:43:13.17
and you read the couple passages
00:43:13.18\00:43:14.47
or that, excuse
me, the two texts
00:43:14.48\00:43:16.02
that usually are often quoted
00:43:16.03\00:43:18.55
in regard to the grace of God,
00:43:18.56\00:43:19.77
verses 8 and 9 of Ephesians 2.
00:43:19.78\00:43:21.83
The churches that take this
today, go then a step further
00:43:21.84\00:43:26.13
and I believe
they're delving into
00:43:26.14\00:43:27.60
what is referred to in
Jude in verses 3 and 4,
00:43:27.61\00:43:30.97
which is they
start to cheapen it.
00:43:30.98\00:43:33.25
And the reason I say
that is because there becomes
00:43:33.26\00:43:35.55
an imbalance
between grace and works.
00:43:35.56\00:43:40.79
Faith, we're saved by
grace through faith and works.
00:43:42.14\00:43:46.34
Which then James
then tries to restore
00:43:46.35\00:43:48.51
with the book of James.
00:43:48.52\00:43:49.49
But, I'm avoiding going there,
00:43:49.50\00:43:51.59
because we got other things
about grace to talk about.
00:43:51.60\00:43:53.48
But this is where they go.
00:43:53.49\00:43:54.76
They start here
and they stay here
00:43:54.77\00:43:56.76
and really the
imbalance comes from emphasizing
00:43:56.77\00:44:00.78
one aspect of
salvation over the other.
00:44:00.79\00:44:03.43
And there are two parts
that bring about our redemption;
00:44:03.44\00:44:07.84
the first part is
how we are justified.
00:44:07.85\00:44:10.98
We are justified by
the blood of Christ.
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There is nothing we can
do, but when we believe in Him,
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put our trust in Him,
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His blood covers our
sin and we are redeemed.
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We are justified by His blood
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and by the works
that Christ has done.
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We are talking as
some, someone has said,
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we're taken off death row
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and we are
counted mong the redeemed.
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Praise the
Lord, we are set free.
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But from that point
on you will find that
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the scriptures
are clear to reveal
00:44:33.61\00:44:35.87
that there is a
sanctifying process.
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There is a
process of sanctification
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which is the growth in Christ.
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Christ doesn't leave
us, how we came to Him.
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He justifies us
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and then begins to change
our lives which takes time.
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You know,
someone doesn't go from
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often from smoking a pack a day
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to stop smoking all together.
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Some do and I
praise the Lord for that.
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We hear about
those experiences but...
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But it's a rare
experience. But it's rare.
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Most people
battle it for a while
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until they
finally get deliverance.
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And I think a lot of that is,
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now leads to
the sin in our life,
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that sometimes
some of these sins
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take a while to root out.
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You know, things like anger.
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I mean, you
don't go from becoming,
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you know, rushing from
a 0 to 100 miles an hour
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being angry from one
day and the next day,
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oh, you know, it's no problem.
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God takes time to work on us
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and this is where
verse 10 comes into play.
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I want you to read verse 10...
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Because it's all
connected to this whole thing.
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For we are His
continuing, not of works,
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lest anyone
should boast, verse 10;
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For we are His workmanship,
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created in Christ
Jesus for, what? Good works.
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Good works, which
God prepared before Him
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that we should walk in them.
00:45:44.44\00:45:45.84
If we couldn't do good
works before we were saved,
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you know, if we
were in a lost condition,
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if we were as
Isaiah says, the leper,
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you know, from
the head to the foot,
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from the sole of
the foot to the head.
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You know, there is
no soundness in it,
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only, petrifying
sores, Isaiah says.
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Speaking about the
miserable condition of Israel
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and its lost state.
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If we can do anything
good in that condition,
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then and Christ is saying
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that we've been
created for good work,
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then obviously
there's a transition
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that's suppose to
be talking place. Yes.
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Something is happening besides,
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beyond just I have
justified you to myself
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by what I have
done on the cross.
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There is something
else that is happening,
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and we even created
for Christ for good works.
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Yeah, you know,
it's interesting too
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that it says, these
good works were prepared
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beforehand that we
should walk in them.
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Who prepared them beforehand?
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God prepared
them. God did in Christ.
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His works then become
the, what do you call it,
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your repertoire
00:46:42.24\00:46:44.81
or your closet of works
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for your life
going forward. Right.
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So where you were
as filthy rags before
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and now redeemed by Christ.
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He has prepared
these works beforehand
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that He works
through your life. Right.
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And they become evident
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that Christ has
changed you from within.
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And this is
called sanctification,
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a part that is
often not emphasized
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within the churches
today. That's right.
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Because with that comes
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the accountability to
the law, the commandments.
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You know, ordering your
life in harmony with God,
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cleansing
yourself from bad works
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to living the life that
God has called you to live,
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all those other things.
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I'll never forget when I
was a colporteur years ago.
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I remember I stopped at this
one house, knocked the door,
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and at the time I
think I was 23 years old.
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And this kid right
around my same age,
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you know, guy came to the door
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and I sat down with
him on the front porch.
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And I'll never forget,
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I wanted this child
find a little of who he was,
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you know, and his
background and stuff.
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And I'll never forget he had a,
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he had a beer on the table,
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a little coffee table
there on the front porch.
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He had a packet of cigarettes,
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he was smoking a
cigarette as we're talking
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and I could see
over in the corner,
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some of the movies he
had lying around his TV,
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I won't even
mention some of them.
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And he's cursing up
a storm, not in anger
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but just in every
other word out of his mouth.
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And in the midst
of all this, he says,
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'cause I was wanted to
give him a great controversy
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or some peace of literature.
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And I'll never forget, he says,
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in the midst of
this whole thing he says,
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you know, yeah, I got saved,
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I got saved back
in '85, you know.
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And I am thinking, I am think
00:48:15.57\00:48:17.77
and because you
had to understand
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where I had come from,
00:48:18.80\00:48:19.77
I had come out of
that whole mess. Right.
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And it was by the
grace of God that he didn't,
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God just declare
me justified. Right.
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But brought me from the mess
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I was in to the
person I was becoming.
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You know, I'm looking at
everything this guy is into,
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and I am saying,
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this is all the stuff
that was destroying me.
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And so, you know,
but that is the view
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like you were saying, a
lot of churches have today.
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You know, and I think
James so aptly puts this.
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That he says here
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in James Chapter 2...
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Verse 22.
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Do you see that
faith was working together
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with his works, and by
works faith was made perfect.
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If you go down
little a further he talks,
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he says here in verse 24,
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so you see then that a
man is justified by works,
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and not by faith only.
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Another place and I
can't see it right now.
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He talks about how,
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oh, here it is, verse
18, back up a little bit.
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Someone will say, "You
have faith and I have works.
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Show me your faith
without your works,
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and I will show you my
faith by my works." I like that.
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So, you know,
we reveal our faith
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that we have been
changed, we have gotten saved,
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as many people use that term,
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because of the works
00:49:34.58\00:49:36.20
that reveal the
evidence of that. Right.
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You know, it just seems
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almost remedial
to think about it.
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And almost kindergartenish,
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when you think of
what God has done for us.
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Wouldn't that call
forth some response
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at the very at least,
out of gratitude, you know.
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I mean, at the very least...
It's hard to believe that,
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that you would
actually believe that you could,
00:50:01.06\00:50:03.01
once having met Christ
and giving your heart to him,
00:50:03.02\00:50:04.97
that you would just continue
in the way that you're going.
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I mean, isn't there
some level of gratitude
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and you know, when
I give my son a gift
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or something like that.
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Just out of responding to aid
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or something you
know, he's thankful.
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And I see a
change in him, you know.
00:50:16.68\00:50:18.89
Next time I ask
him to wash the dishes,
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help me wash the
dishes or something like that,
00:50:20.18\00:50:21.50
you know, put the dishes away.
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He is right there, he
wants to help out, you know.
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And there is response
and when I think of grace,
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when I think of justification.
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When God declares us
justified by what Christ did
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on the cross and we accept that.
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It's not just a one time deal.
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It's actually an invitation.
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It's an
invitation to a responsive
00:50:39.86\00:50:42.42
relationship with Christ. Right.
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I mean, that's what it
is, it's a relationship.
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Think about you're married
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and I've been
married for eight years.
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Think about, think about
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if we were the same
people that we were,
00:50:52.64\00:50:55.28
you know, I don't know how
long you've been married but.
00:50:55.29\00:50:57.61
You know, when
you first got married,
00:50:57.62\00:50:58.83
16 years ago, okay,
00:50:58.84\00:51:00.14
I mean, imagine if you
were the same exact person
00:51:00.15\00:51:02.00
you were sixteen years ago.
00:51:02.01\00:51:03.29
I would hope at
least and I'm sure
00:51:03.30\00:51:04.39
your wife would hope even
more. I'm a lot different.
00:51:04.40\00:51:06.25
You've grown. We all have.
00:51:06.26\00:51:07.55
You know I've grown,
00:51:07.56\00:51:08.57
and I have got a such a
long way to grow even more.
00:51:08.58\00:51:10.95
But nobody should
stay at the same place
00:51:10.96\00:51:13.63
they are in a relationship.
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If it's a loving
committed relationship
00:51:14.87\00:51:16.58
and the same
thing with our redeemer.
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That's right, you know,
00:51:17.84\00:51:19.51
as we were talking
about grace then I know,
00:51:19.52\00:51:21.46
we've mentioned
here justification.
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But here is the
statement I want to make
00:51:23.63\00:51:24.82
that kind of spring-boarding
00:51:24.83\00:51:26.08
the other things
that we talk about.
00:51:26.09\00:51:27.99
Grace is as much a part of
our justification experience
00:51:28.00\00:51:33.27
coming to Christ initially
00:51:33.28\00:51:34.55
and Him saving us by His grace.
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As is our growing in Christ,
our sanctifying experience,
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our sanctification process.
00:51:41.55\00:51:44.10
As we put our trust in Christ
00:51:44.11\00:51:46.61
and he takes us off death row,
00:51:46.62\00:51:49.53
then He puts us into a walk,
00:51:49.54\00:51:51.39
into a relationship with Him
00:51:51.40\00:51:53.24
as He begins to change our life.
00:51:53.25\00:51:54.59
He continues to
bestow His grace upon us.
00:51:54.60\00:51:57.94
And this is the aspect of grace
00:51:57.95\00:51:59.46
that we're going
to talk about here
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for the rest of this program,
and next program in that.
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Grace isn't just a
merited favor to redeem
00:52:04.15\00:52:06.63
you where you are
preciously unredeemable
00:52:06.64\00:52:09.02
or at least could
not redeem yourself.
00:52:09.03\00:52:10.58
Grace is about
changing your life
00:52:10.59\00:52:12.97
from that point forward,
00:52:12.98\00:52:14.32
getting you
prepared for Jesus to come.
00:52:14.33\00:52:16.61
It's an
empowering component. Yes.
00:52:16.62\00:52:18.58
So it doesn't just
do something for you
00:52:18.59\00:52:21.80
as a gift that you
couldn't do for yourself.
00:52:21.81\00:52:24.37
It continues to give it to you.
00:52:24.38\00:52:25.83
A sermon I
recently did was entitled
00:52:25.84\00:52:28.38
"The Gift that Keeps on Giving."
00:52:28.39\00:52:30.73
In another words, it
wasn't a one time event,
00:52:30.74\00:52:32.17
it was a repeated event,
00:52:32.18\00:52:33.68
the grace of God
continued to be poured out to me
00:52:33.69\00:52:36.09
and you will
find in the scriptures
00:52:36.10\00:52:37.33
that we will cover here shortly,
00:52:37.34\00:52:39.82
that grace in that context
00:52:39.83\00:52:42.40
is the most prominent
use in scripture. It is.
00:52:42.41\00:52:45.25
Not in the way that it
is most commonly taught.
00:52:45.26\00:52:48.96
Now, before we
finished our program today,
00:52:48.97\00:52:52.36
I would like to just
clarify the difference between
00:52:52.37\00:52:54.84
grace and one other thing
that's often talked about,
00:52:54.85\00:52:58.21
which is mercy.
00:52:58.22\00:52:59.59
Because they are very different.
00:52:59.60\00:53:01.18
These two things
are often muddied,
00:53:01.19\00:53:03.12
kind of mingled together.
00:53:03.13\00:53:04.94
And we think of
them as being one,
00:53:04.95\00:53:06.97
but they are
actually subtly different.
00:53:06.98\00:53:10.49
And here is the difference
between grace and mercy.
00:53:10.50\00:53:14.11
Grace is
receiving something from God
00:53:14.12\00:53:17.54
that we don't deserve. Right.
00:53:17.55\00:53:19.22
Anytime He pours
out a blessing on us,
00:53:19.23\00:53:20.98
anytime you give
something that comes from Him.
00:53:20.99\00:53:22.97
That's out of His grace.
00:53:22.98\00:53:24.77
That's His grace.
Now we've earned it.
00:53:24.78\00:53:25.94
Right, we've learned
it because He love us.
00:53:25.95\00:53:28.73
Mercy is not
receiving something from God
00:53:28.74\00:53:32.48
that we do deserve.
00:53:32.49\00:53:34.86
So I don't receive
condemnation from God
00:53:34.87\00:53:38.34
although I deserve it.
00:53:38.35\00:53:39.75
I don't receive judgment
from God to condemnation
00:53:39.76\00:53:42.95
or I don't deserve death,
00:53:42.96\00:53:45.71
I mean, I deserve death
but He doesn't give me death
00:53:45.72\00:53:47.85
because of His mercy. Right.
00:53:47.86\00:53:49.93
So in this respect,
mercy is with holding judgment,
00:53:49.94\00:53:54.31
grace is
liberally giving of himself.
00:53:54.32\00:53:57.82
So these are the,
this the key difference,
00:53:57.83\00:53:59.93
because we'll muddy them.
00:53:59.94\00:54:01.22
You know, sometimes mercy
00:54:01.23\00:54:02.60
and grace kind of go together,
00:54:02.61\00:54:04.02
but they actually
are quite different.
00:54:04.03\00:54:06.30
I notice in your notes,
00:54:06.31\00:54:07.62
you had a little
illustration of what mercy is.
00:54:07.63\00:54:10.82
And I think we all
can related to this.
00:54:10.83\00:54:12.56
You know, you're
driving down the road,
00:54:12.57\00:54:13.54
not paying
attention to the speed limit.
00:54:13.55\00:54:15.04
Your foot gets a little heavier
00:54:15.05\00:54:16.25
for whatever reason.
00:54:16.26\00:54:17.34
So, you know you're
doing, let's say 65 and a 55
00:54:17.35\00:54:20.45
and you get pulled over.
00:54:20.46\00:54:22.20
Police officer comes
up, checks out your license,
00:54:22.21\00:54:24.90
let's say your license is clean,
00:54:24.91\00:54:26.07
now you're
waiting for the verdict.
00:54:26.08\00:54:27.06
You go back,
goes back to his car.
00:54:27.07\00:54:28.24
The painful period
where he's sitting in his car.
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And you're just
like praying Lord,
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please show mercy.
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And he comes back and says,
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be more careful next time.
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That's mercy. That's mercy.
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You did not get something
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that you deserved,
you know... Absolutely.
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You obviously were
breaking the speed limit.
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You did deserve the ticket.
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I did deserve that
ticket, you know. That's right.
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But in mercy, we didn't get it.
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And I think you ought
to give a good example
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really of grace which is
as a father not compelled
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to give your son a gift
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but because you love
giving gifts to your son.
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You brought him a gift,
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you showed him grace
and he responded to that.
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That's grace,
that's giving of yourself
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where the person
doesn't ask for it,
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or doesn't
compel it or deserve it.
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So this difference is
really important to understand,
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because repeatedly
as we come back to grace
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and talk about it as being
a power that comes from God.
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We're talking
about it in that context
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that He is giving us
something that we don't have.
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Not in the sense
of mercy withholding
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something that
we actually deserve.
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So as we transition now
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and get ready
for our next program,
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what I'd like to do is
take a look at one text here
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from Second
Corinthians Chapter 12 verse 9,
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and this is where Jesus God
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told Paul that He could stand,
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that His grace
was sufficient for him
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and notice here
how Paul relates this.
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The response from
the Lord is, my grace,
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grace is sufficient for you.
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And this is again,
Second Corinthians 12:9.
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My grace is sufficient for you,
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for my strength is
made perfect in weakness.
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Where God was
strong and Paul was weak,
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God's grace step in
to provide His strength
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to overtake
Paul's weakness. Right.
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That is grace.
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That is the
power coming from God.
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His strength coming from Him,
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divine strength so to speak,
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where we just
simply don't have it.
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And in Hebrew language,
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this is in
Hebrews, it says Greek.
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But in the Hebrew language
often a verse would start
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and then at the
end of that verse,
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it really be
repeating the same thought
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with different words.
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But likewise we do see
that in the New Testament.
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My grace is sufficient for you,
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for my strength would
be the equivalent of grace,
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the previous
verse. That's right.
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For my grace is strength.
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Grace is an active component,
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you know, it's not
an idle declaration.
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And it is powerful,
and especially this verse
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because we're talking
about weakness. That's right.
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You know, we're talking
about unfavorable conditions,
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you know,
struggling but God says,
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my grace will
enable you to stand.
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Well, we pray that, that
God's grace will continue
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to be poured out on you as
you were looking to be saved.
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You were looking
to come off death row,
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He has done that, He
is accomplishing that.
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But He continues to
offer His grace to you
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each and everyday.
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Stay tuned to our
next program on that,
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but for now may God
bless you each and everyday.
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