Hello, friends grab
your Bible and a friend
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and sit back as we
explore God's word together
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on this edition
of "House Calls."
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Hello, and welcome again
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to another
edition of "House Calls."
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We are glad that you
decide to join with us today,
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and we are excited have you
with us to study God's word,
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and hopefully all
of us will be blessed
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by this time together.
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My name is pastor John Stanton.
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With me in the studio
is pastor C.A. Murray.
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Good to be here again.
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It's good to be
here with you as well.
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And a blessing I think,
whenever we get together
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to open the word of God
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and just kind of
let it speak. Yeah.
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Often it does on this program,
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it takes same directions
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that we don't often
plan for but that is,
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that is the way God
works a lot of times.
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And so we are
excited that you've decided
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join with us
today in that journey.
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Before we dive into anything
that we want to make sure
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we go to the Lord and
pray and so I want to invite
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our pastor here to
share that word with us.
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Gracious Father again,
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we come to you with
open hearts and in humility.
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We are thankful for
the power of the word,
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we thankful for Jesus
our savior and friend.
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We are thankful for this program
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and this opportunity
to dig into your word
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and find there
the nuggets of Gold,
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the water of life that
we need for our growing
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for our nurture and for
our spiritual enrichment.
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We pray now Father
that you would bless us.
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Give us spiritual
eyesight that we may see
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that which you have for us
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that we may interpret to
write, that we would make
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correct application to our lives
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and by extension to those
who sit and listen and watch
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and hear this
particular program.
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Be the center and circumference
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of all that we do this day.
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We surrender ourselves to you
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and ask you to be
the divine teacher.
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And we thank you in
Jesus name, amen. Amen.
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Well, we're gonna
dive into our questions
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here very quickly.
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We appreciate your involvement
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in sending us the
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Some of you are
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I say snail mail just because
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it takes a little
longer for it to get here.
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But we do appreciate in
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that you do interact
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We really appreciate that.
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We want to give our
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To send us your email
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We try and cover your question
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on the future
program. Thank you.
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Pastor you wanna start
this off with a question today?
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All right, we gonna
start off with the question
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that comes from time to
time in different aspects
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but I think it's
something we need to touch on
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and to touch on with love.
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I don't have a name
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for this email
that came and says,
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I work for church that says
homosexuality is not sinfull
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and has an openly
gay music minister.
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The pastor also says
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that God of all
religions is the same one.
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I used to think
that it was okay.
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I've learned from
the Bible and Holy Spirit
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that this is an
Apostolic Church.
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What shall I
do? I am a recently,
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I am recently single
and cannot afford to quit.
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Well, I think in
answering this question,
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a number of
things come into play
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and we wanna take
them sort of sequentially.
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As far as homosexual
practice is concerned,
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I think and I think you
will agree with me John,
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the Bible is very clear on that.
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We will give you some texts
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and then I wanna go into this,
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I can't afford to quit thing.
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First I go to first Corinthians
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6, 9, and 10, which is a text
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we are looking at
just a little bit go.
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There is a list here.
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Here's what the Bible says,
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Paul wrote to the
Church of Corinth,
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"Do you not know
that the unrighteous
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will not inherit
the kingdom of God?
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Do not be deceived."
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So he is setting a very
firm premise at the outside
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of this literal
preaching portion.
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Neither
fornicators, nor idolaters,
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nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,
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nor sodomites, nor
thieves, nor the covetous,
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nor drunkards, nor
revilers, nor extortioners,
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will inherit the kingdom of God,
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and such were some of
you: but ye are washed,
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but ye are
sanctified, but ye are justified
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in the name of the Lord Jesus,
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and by the Spirit of our God."
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And so we find
at the very outset
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that people on this list
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cannot inherit
the kingdom of God,
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are not in right stand with God.
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So as far as
homosexuality is concerned,
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say what you
will, Old Testament,
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New Testament agree
that this is not a practice
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that has the
blessing of God in any way.
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So as far as the church saying
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that it's okay,
they are going against
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the clear counsel
from the word of God
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because it is not okay.
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Couple of other things,
if you will jump with me
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to Romans Chapter 1,
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I think I can pick
it up about verse 26,
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"For this
reason God gave them up
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to vile passions: for
even their women exchanged
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the natural use for
what is against nature.
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And likewise also the men,
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leaving the
natural use of the woman,
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burned in their
lust one toward another;
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men with men
committing what is shameful,
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and receiving in themselves
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the penalty for
their error which was due."
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So again we see
the total picture
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of homosexual acts.
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It is something
that is frowned upon
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and not accepted by God.
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It is a Biblical abomination,
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and something that a
Christian cannot practice
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with any sort of
blessing from heaven.
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So that's the first thing.
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Well, just one really
quick thing on that too.
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If you look at verse 20
of that Chapter in Romans,
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Romans 1, it says there,
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For since the
creation of the world
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His invisible
attributes are clearly seen,
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being understood by
the things that are made.
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You know, when you
read the creation account,
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it said that He made
male for female. Yes.
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And clearly had
put those two together
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and the image of God
was represented in both.
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The same sex coming together
with acts of homosexuality
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do not reproduce or represent
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the image of God. Yes.
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And that is clear as he
goes on in these passages
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as He describes how
people wandered from that ideal
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homosexuality as mentioned. Yes.
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But it ties to back
to the creation account.
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So from the very beginning,
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we see even in the
creation of this world
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that it's meant to be.
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Now some would argue,
well, there are some things
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that we find where
there is some homosexual stuff
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maybe in the
animals and so forth.
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That's Evolution. I
mean that is an issue.
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That is a model of
founding this world
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and this universe that
we simply don't agree with.
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The Bible is in
contraction with.
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So to argue something that
an Evolutionist would argue
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to establish proof
that the Bible is wrong
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simply just
destroys the Bible anyway.
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So you can't go
there and of course,
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you know, the people
want to explain in a way,
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well God is not like that.
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He is loving. He is kind.
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He would not destroy someone
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if I was born this
way then I am this way.
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But you know,
many of us are born
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with challenges in
life and we have to
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and it's the nature of sin.
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We have to resist
the inclination to sin.
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And so I like what
you said a couple of time,
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the practice of homosexuality,
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you know, staying away
from vying on the debate
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is to whether one
is born homosexual.
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I think it's kind
a like a mood point,
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because we are all born
with inclinations to sin
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whatever that sin maybe
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that is our
challenge in life. Yes.
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And for some that's sin maybe
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what their inclination is
to practice homosexuality.
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Still the word of God
says, do not practice it. Right.
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And God will deliver us from it.
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Be it nature or nurture,
we are not scientist enough,
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medical persons enough
to even weigh into that.
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Having said that we are
born with any number of,
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any amount of
baggage here I say,
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and we are called
to overcome in the name
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and the power of Jesus Christ.
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That text in
Corinthians gave a fairly long
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and impressive list of sins.
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All of which must be overcome,
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if we ought to be in
right standing for the Lord.
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Having said that
the idea of shunning,
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hating, treating with
contempt irrespective,
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homosexual is
also not sanctioned
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by the word of God,
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and so some of the treatment
that they get in this word
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really is awful
and non-Christian
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and some of it comes
from the hand of Christians.
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That of course is not
sanctioned by God either
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but to condone the practice
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that is not sanctioned by God.
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Now the last thing
I want to touch on,
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he says I become single
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and I can't afford to quit.
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I think that is
something you really need
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to take to the Lord in prayer.
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You may find that
you can afford with.
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You may have to
trust God really a lot.
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You may need to
put out some feelers
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to see what other
options are open for you,
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and I submit if you really
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want to serve the Lord
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and be free to serve the Lord
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in conscience
and mind and practice
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then put it to God.
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Lord, I would like
to do something else.
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I would like to
work some place else.
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Put it before the
Lord, keep it before the Lord
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and then watch the
Lord work in your behalf.
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He knows that you
are now uncomfortable
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with the situation
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and I think God
wants you to be free
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to grow in grace
and in His spirit
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and to not have
this incompetence.
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So put it before the Lord,
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and talk that the Lord about it.
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Make it a matter
of serious prayer,
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and put out the feelers
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and see what God will do for you
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in the course of time.
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We will join you in
that praye. Amen, amen.
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You know, I would even add,
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I have a similar queston here
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about a similar
issue, not the similar issue
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but the same
kind of contradiction.
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And I think anytime that
God is convicting you something,
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He is actually
paving the way for you
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to put out a fleece
before Him. Precisely.
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In other words, if
He is convicting you
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that you
shouldn't be there anymore,
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He is preparing
already an answer.
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He just wants you to move.
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He wants you to
step out in faith.
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And that is
where the same advice
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comes in for this next question
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which comes from,
let's see here, Francis.
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And he says, hi John.
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And John I've always watched
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your program on the TV station.
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I am from
Belize, Central America.
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My question is
that I would like to
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serve God with all my being.
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However, my job
does not permit me
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to get my Sabbaths off.
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What must I do not
to feel guilty anymore?
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God's blessing to you both,
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I pray for you both as well.
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You know, I don't know
exactly what job you have.
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There are
obviously some jobs that,
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you know, without
weighing heavily into the debate
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that are absolutely necessary
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such as a job of a doctor.
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You can't respond to a patient
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that needs
emergency medical care
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by saying I'm
sorry it's my day off.
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I can't be involved in
the work of healing you.
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So there are
those doctors, nurses
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providing for the
care of individuals,
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some even
involved in the emergency,
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a protection of the community.
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Fire fighters, they
can't, you know, say I'm sorry
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I won't put out your
fire because it's the Sabbath.
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So there are things that are,
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that I believe God
allows provides allowance for us
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to be able to
continue to provide the service
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or help for people,
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but it probably is not
the case here I am guessing.
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But many do
struggle in the same way,
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you know, my
job doesn't allow me
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to have all my Sabbaths off.
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I really feel convicted
or little guilty about that,
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what I can do to stop the guilt.
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I would say the only
thing to do to stop the guilt
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is follow the word of
God. Follow the Lord, yeah
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And it says there that
clue the Fourth Commandment,
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"you shall do no
work on that day."
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And so you need to
pretty much just kind of
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put your foot down
and say to your employer,
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I'm sorry I can no longer work
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on any Sabbaths because
of the fact that it is my,
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it's God holy Sabbath day
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and I wanna honor
Him first and foremost.
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And then the Lord will move.
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I often find the
Lord will not move
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until, we move first
to respond Him. Yeah.
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So you, you know, to say
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well I have to get another job
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before I lose this job,
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let me tell you it
almost never works like that.
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The Lord opens the door for work
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after we first
honor and commit to Him.
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Yes, because there is
no faith element in that.
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If you leap and you know
you have some place to land
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then the leap has not
really a leap of faith.
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It's just a jump.
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You gonna jump, you gonna land.
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But if leave not
knowing or you're gonna land
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and trust God
to land you safely.
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That is a leap of faith.
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And that could be
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what the Lord is
waiting for you to do.
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We've seen it happen
so many, many, many times.
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When I was in
Public Affairs in Religious
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Liberty Director
for the Conference,
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we had a fellow
who was a carpenter,
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never worked on Sabbath.
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And the Transit
Authority, he works in New York
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Transit called him
in and he wouldn't go.
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And well, he said I'm
gonna just have to quit
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if you gonna insist.
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And they insisted and he quit.
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And he was out of
work for two weeks.
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And then he got a better job
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but he was out of
work for two weeks.
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His faith was tested.
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He didn't go
from one to another.
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And so many
times God is asking us
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to exercise our
faith to trust Him,
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to try Him, to test
Him, to prove Him he says.
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And when we do that
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we find that God is faithful.
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Yes, He is always
faithful. Yeah. Okay.
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Now the question you have here.
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I've got one from Australia,
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from New South Wales from Wayne.
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Wayne wants to know, how
is it that Jesus being God,
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was born through
Mary by the Holy Spirit
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and not affected by sin
through the birth of Mary,
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as Mary is a
sinner just like us?
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Well, this is
called the incarnation.
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The Bible says the
word which is Christ
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became flesh and dwelt among us.
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And God doesn't
spend a lot of time
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really explaining
how that happened.
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And I think even if He did
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we probably
couldn't understand it
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and how does
divinity become humanity.
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How does God take Himself
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and form Himself
into a little baby
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and insert Himself
into the womb of woman,
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and then come through
the natural birth process,
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and allow that to happen.
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Perhaps through the
ages we were studying that,
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the depth of the incarnation.
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So if I to say and praise God,
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it did happen.
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Now was He affected? Yes.
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He was affected.
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He got hungry.
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He got tired.
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He needed rest.
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All of those things
are very human qualities,
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John, as you well know.
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So He was affected by sin
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as the word is affected by sin
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but not infected
by sin. Absolutely.
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Christ made the statement,
the text in case perhaps
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you can help me with this,
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He says the God of
this word has nothing in me.
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There is no hook in me.
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There is nothing for
Satan to reach and sort of latch
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unto because I am
not allowing that.
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The propensity. Precisely.
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What sin was in bear?
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When we talk
about the incarnation
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with the God man,
there are two words
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that tend to come to mind,
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infirmities and propensities.
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He had the infirmities.
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He got tired, He got
weak, He needed food,
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those are very human things,
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but He didn't
have the propensities.
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He didn't have the bent
toward sin that we have.
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He didn't have that
natural leaning towards sin.
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And of course that was kept up
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by a constant
relationship with His Father,
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by dependence upon his Father.
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He overcame the
same way we can overcome
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and that is through
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a constant
connection with Jesus Christ.
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So He was affected
by but not infected by
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and praise God, He
lived a sinless life,
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and these are
example and died for us.
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And now ministers
the benefit of that death
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and that life in heaven
for us even as we speak.
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You know, and it
is a very different.
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It's just beyond our
grasp, some of these things,
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just like the God
had the three in one.
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It's just as tough for
us to really understand.
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One of the things I know
one person mentioned to me
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one time talked about,
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you know, the nature of Christ.
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And he said, you know,
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He came likeness of sinful flesh
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but likeness
doesn't mean sameness.
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He wasn't exactly like us,
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because we are born with
a propensity to sin. Yes.
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We are bent toward that.
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He was not, He
did not have that,
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yet He was affected by sin.
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It impacted His
life. Very much so.
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And there is no one
ever been exactly like that.
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But yet, He came in
the lightness of us,
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to show us that we can conquer
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as He conquered
through His father.
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Yeah, that comes to mind John.
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People say, well
okay, He didn't have
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the natural
tendency that we have,
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so He had to vanish.
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But here is a
question I asked myself
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and I ask myself every
time we have our grandkids over.
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Is it easier to get clean
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or having been
clean to stay clean?
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Now we can dress
our grandchildren up
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to take them to church.
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And if we don't
watch them by the time
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we are ready to
go, they are filthy.
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Because they're
gonna find something,
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they're gonna grab something
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and the other day it
was, we were making smoothies.
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And one of the little
ones got into the blueberries.
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And of course the
blueberries are all over.
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He started out clean but he
didn't stay clean very long.
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So, Christ started out clean,
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but then it was
His job to stay clean,
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you know, with the temptations
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and of course He had
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the attention of Satan Himself.
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So He had to stay clean
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and to resist those
kinds of temptations
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and Satan took him
on his pet project.
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So is it easier to get
clean or to stay clean?
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Well, six of one
half a dozen of the other.
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He started out clean
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but it was His job to stay clean
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and not to sin in
thought, word, or deed.
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And He was faithful unto death,
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even the death at the cross.
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So in that He can
indeed be our example.
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You know, the other
thing too is that He,
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well, you know,
He is, while He came
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and He did not conquered
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using His divinity, His deity.
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Yes, He is all
God but He is all man.
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And He conquered
where man stands.
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He conquered him in
the power and strength
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that we have as we
depend upon on the Holy Spirit
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in our Father to provide
the strength that we need.
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So that's what He
stood so that He can
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then give us that
victory. Precisely.
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He conquered as God.
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He couldn't
give us that victory.
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Not my example. He
is not our example.
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We're not God. Yeah.
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And so you know, word is harder.
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You know, that's
the same question,
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to be on a Cross
and have the power,
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to end it right
there, or to be on the cross
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with no
possibility of getting off
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which is what we would
be in and then just having
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to stay there and experience it.
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I would say it would
require more to stay there,
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not using power,
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you had at your
resource, at your availability.
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Then it is to just a human being
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not have the power. Yeah, yeah.
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He could have come
down. He could end this.
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Why direct, to go through this,
00:20:35.89\00:20:37.25
just end it. That's right.
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But, and you've got it's like
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you have money in the bank
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and you are living in
the backseat of your car.
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I could live in a
mansion if I want,
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but I'm not gonna do that.
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Well, He had the power
but He did not use that power
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and in that He
becomes my example
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because he has to
overcome just like I owe Him.
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And in that respect I would say
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He didn't have an
advantage. Precisely.
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'Cause, you know, it
took more to resist but...
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Yeah, we have to resist.
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Amen. All right.
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We have one last question here
00:21:02.87\00:21:04.25
I will just mention briefly,
00:21:04.26\00:21:06.32
'cause it really
doesn't have a specific answer.
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It says in Mark
14:21 with regard to Judas
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that it would have been good
00:21:15.74\00:21:16.93
for that man to
never have been born.
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My question is if there
were no Judas then how would
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the crucifixion
resurrection of Jesus
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had been fulfilled? Okay.
00:21:23.12\00:21:26.08
So let me read Mark 14:21,
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"The Son of Man indeed goes
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just as it is written of Him,
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but woe to that man by
whom the Son of Man is betrayed!
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It would have
been good for that man
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if he had never been born."
00:21:36.38\00:21:39.05
You know I've
heard this question
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many times before and
framed in different ways.
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Here is another one
and maybe I am pouring fuel
00:21:43.64\00:21:46.40
on the fire or something,
but another one would be,
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you know, what if,
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what if the Jews had
accepted their Messiah?
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You know, and He...
and did not crucify Him?
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How were they been
different from mankind?
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You know, there is all
these different "what ifs",
00:22:00.07\00:22:03.54
but it didn't happen that way.
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You know, I would say
the answer to that "what if"
00:22:05.87\00:22:07.23
would be there
would have been no church
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because the Jews and Israel
00:22:08.40\00:22:09.96
would have been
the church, right?
00:22:09.97\00:22:11.99
But the issue is with regard
to Jesus and His crucifixion
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and I will throw a scenario out.
00:22:15.84\00:22:16.92
Let's say the Jews had
accepted their Messiah.
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I would say it's very possible
00:22:22.07\00:22:23.48
that maybe Rome would
step forward to see Him
00:22:23.49\00:22:25.27
as the opposition and
would have crucified Him anyway.
00:22:25.28\00:22:27.85
You know, someone
would have step forward
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and provided the impetus
00:22:29.45\00:22:30.85
for the crucifixion of Christ,
00:22:30.86\00:22:32.67
for the death of the Messiah
00:22:32.68\00:22:33.72
because that's
what was required,
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that's what the
Bible had foretold.
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And so it's hard to cometh throw
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around these "what ifs"
00:22:40.12\00:22:41.21
and to really know the
answer 'cause we don't,
00:22:41.22\00:22:43.10
we cannot possibly know.
00:22:43.11\00:22:45.10
But God always does
have that full knowledge.
00:22:45.11\00:22:49.16
And there would have
been a way regardless,
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there have been no Judas
00:22:51.19\00:22:52.42
it would have been
something else. Yeah.
00:22:52.43\00:22:54.27
And that's why we
can't, you know, people say,
00:22:54.28\00:22:56.21
well, you know it's
unfair to choose Judas.
00:22:56.22\00:22:58.63
Well, Judas could
have been forgiven.
00:22:58.64\00:23:00.86
Judas thought he made
a pretty slick bargain,
00:23:00.87\00:23:04.11
pick up some cash
and identify Christ.
00:23:04.12\00:23:06.93
That's basically
what it's in his mind.
00:23:06.94\00:23:08.98
I will point him out
I'm going to get pay.
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Is that worse than
Peter is denying him?
00:23:12.23\00:23:15.17
You know, that's pretty bad.
00:23:16.59\00:23:18.12
Peter said, I
don't know the man.
00:23:18.13\00:23:19.65
I have nothing to do with him.
00:23:19.66\00:23:20.63
I don't know who
you talking about,
00:23:20.64\00:23:21.67
and cursed to
sort of back it up.
00:23:21.68\00:23:24.44
Is that worse than
Judas pointing him out
00:23:24.45\00:23:27.30
to some soldiers? who did known
00:23:27.31\00:23:29.00
Well, you can
banter it about either way.
00:23:29.01\00:23:32.41
The fact is both
could have been forgiven.
00:23:32.42\00:23:35.62
Peter was, Judas choose
to end his life in despair.
00:23:35.63\00:23:41.32
But he could have been forgiven.
00:23:41.33\00:23:42.90
Someone would have betrayed him.
00:23:42.91\00:23:44.42
Was it Judas? Yeah,
00:23:44.43\00:23:45.51
but Judas could have
been forgiven for that act
00:23:45.52\00:23:47.39
just as Peter was
forgiven for his act.
00:23:47.40\00:23:51.72
And I think we need to
look at that on our own lives.
00:23:51.73\00:23:54.50
We are never beyond the hope,
00:23:54.51\00:23:56.94
the help of Christ.
00:23:56.95\00:23:58.48
You may do some things
that in your mind pretty bad
00:23:58.49\00:24:01.53
but just as Peter
denied Him and was forgiven,
00:24:01.54\00:24:05.17
so you too can be forgiven.
00:24:05.18\00:24:07.75
Judas turned
his mind inside out,
00:24:07.76\00:24:09.80
there is no hope
for me. I am sad.
00:24:09.81\00:24:11.70
I will just end it all.
00:24:11.71\00:24:13.22
Peter looked to Jesus
00:24:13.23\00:24:15.53
and remembered
the words of Jesus
00:24:15.54\00:24:17.92
and used that as motivation
00:24:17.93\00:24:19.87
to get back into
right standing with God.
00:24:19.88\00:24:22.13
Never think you
are beyond Christ.
00:24:22.14\00:24:23.78
Christ has seen it
all. He has heard it all.
00:24:23.79\00:24:26.31
There is nothing you
can do that surprises Him.
00:24:26.32\00:24:29.19
You can't go too far
00:24:29.20\00:24:30.47
if you have
enough sense to call,
00:24:30.48\00:24:32.67
He has got
enough love to answer.
00:24:32.68\00:24:34.46
You know, I would also say that
00:24:34.47\00:24:36.40
God can handle your
sin. Precisely, yes.
00:24:36.41\00:24:38.84
He has already
got an answer for sin.
00:24:38.85\00:24:43.67
But He doesn't have an answer
00:24:43.68\00:24:45.26
for rejection of Him
or walking away of Him
00:24:45.27\00:24:47.63
because of our own free will.
00:24:47.64\00:24:48.89
He has given us that free will
00:24:48.90\00:24:50.73
to be able to step away
00:24:50.74\00:24:51.87
and reject Christ as Judas did
00:24:51.88\00:24:54.77
and do not
accept that forgiveness,
00:24:54.78\00:24:56.54
or the change of heart
even that comes with that.
00:24:56.55\00:24:59.13
So the tragedy
there is always in us,
00:24:59.14\00:25:02.77
in the man that
commits that sin. Yeah.
00:25:02.78\00:25:05.55
The tragedy for
Christ is definitely there
00:25:05.56\00:25:08.56
but not the sin
itself. He can handle the sin.
00:25:08.57\00:25:10.55
Yeah, yeah.
00:25:10.56\00:25:11.53
Christ in his dealing with Judas
00:25:11.54\00:25:12.68
never gave indication
00:25:12.69\00:25:14.25
and He knew what he was doing,
00:25:14.26\00:25:15.37
what Judas would do.
00:25:15.38\00:25:16.55
You know, He knew what's coming
00:25:16.56\00:25:17.94
but He never said listen
by the way when you do this,
00:25:17.95\00:25:19.86
don't ever come back.
00:25:19.87\00:25:20.84
He didn't say
that time, you know...
00:25:20.85\00:25:22.13
Maybe wash His feet. Precisely.
00:25:22.14\00:25:24.52
Trying to let him know.
00:25:24.53\00:25:25.99
I know what's going on,
00:25:26.00\00:25:27.20
I know what's going to go down,
00:25:27.21\00:25:28.48
I love you still.
00:25:28.49\00:25:29.66
And that's the message
that He has for us today.
00:25:29.67\00:25:31.54
He knows. There is no secret.
00:25:31.55\00:25:33.25
Nothing hidden from God,
but His love is still there
00:25:33.26\00:25:35.44
and His love is overriding
00:25:35.45\00:25:36.71
and all
encompassing and eternal.
00:25:36.72\00:25:38.95
So fall on that love
00:25:38.96\00:25:40.56
and take that love to yourself
00:25:40.57\00:25:41.80
and know that
Christ doesn't reject you,
00:25:41.81\00:25:43.44
so don't reject Him. Amen.
00:25:43.45\00:25:45.63
What a positive note.
00:25:45.64\00:25:46.61
Can I transition on? Yeah.
00:25:46.62\00:25:47.72
The love of Christ for us
00:25:47.73\00:25:49.88
in the way that
He deals patiently,
00:25:49.89\00:25:52.57
and you know with
us and our problems.
00:25:52.58\00:25:57.48
Let me go ahead
and introduce to you
00:25:57.49\00:25:59.66
in our topic to kind a segway.
00:25:59.67\00:26:02.35
Actually before I do that
00:26:02.36\00:26:03.33
let's put up the House calls
00:26:03.34\00:26:05.31
email address one more time.
00:26:05.32\00:26:07.00
You can send your questions
into housecalls@3abn.org
00:26:07.01\00:26:10.83
or you can email or
actually send them regular mail
00:26:10.84\00:26:13.66
through card or
letters or something.
00:26:13.67\00:26:15.75
We will make sure we
do our best to put them up
00:26:15.76\00:26:17.59
and answer them on
our future programs.
00:26:19.43\00:26:21.71
So thank you very much
00:26:21.72\00:26:22.69
for participating in that part.
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Now for the introduction. Amen.
00:26:24.19\00:26:26.00
You know, we started
last time with part 1,
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start talking
about you know prophecy
00:26:30.52\00:26:32.74
and the biblical rules
00:26:32.75\00:26:33.72
and methodology
of interpretation.
00:26:33.73\00:26:36.09
Because it's very
important to understand that
00:26:36.10\00:26:37.81
and we gave several
reason why it is important.
00:26:37.82\00:26:41.10
But we ended
getting into a discussion
00:26:41.11\00:26:42.74
on the different methodologies
00:26:42.75\00:26:45.68
or actually the different
types of interpretation,
00:26:45.69\00:26:48.52
the methods and
that have grown overtime.
00:26:48.53\00:26:51.06
First of all, Historicism
00:26:51.07\00:26:52.62
which came really out of
the Protestant Reformation
00:26:52.63\00:26:55.49
that was the model
they used and stuck to.
00:26:55.50\00:26:58.07
Then there was the
Counter Reformation
00:26:58.08\00:26:59.41
in response to that.
00:26:59.42\00:27:00.39
When we see the
enemy responded to
00:27:00.40\00:27:01.98
the truths of God's
word getting out with error
00:27:01.99\00:27:05.27
that he tried to disperse
00:27:05.28\00:27:06.65
and through the Church of Rome.
00:27:06.66\00:27:08.74
And we find that two methods
then that Rome introduced
00:27:08.75\00:27:12.12
as theories were
Preterism and Futurism.
00:27:12.13\00:27:15.44
Preterism being predominantly
00:27:15.45\00:27:16.97
that all the prophecies
in the book of Revelation
00:27:16.98\00:27:19.29
have already happened
00:27:19.30\00:27:20.36
and they centered
around the time of A.D. 70,
00:27:20.37\00:27:24.54
where Titus and his army
00:27:24.55\00:27:26.71
besieged and sacked Jerusalem
00:27:26.72\00:27:28.56
and destroyed the temple as well
00:27:28.57\00:27:30.50
and of course
then the persecution
00:27:30.51\00:27:32.10
by its emperors in
the future after that.
00:27:32.11\00:27:35.75
Futurism says
that all the prophecies
00:27:35.76\00:27:37.87
that are spoken of in
Revelation particularly
00:27:37.88\00:27:41.38
after Revelation
Chapter 4 are in the future.
00:27:41.39\00:27:44.76
They are way down
at the end of time.
00:27:44.77\00:27:46.62
You don't have to deal with this
00:27:46.63\00:27:47.92
and one of the main
doctrines associated
00:27:47.93\00:27:49.88
with that understand
is the rapture theory,
00:27:49.89\00:27:53.03
which is that the church
00:27:53.04\00:27:54.05
will be rapture
out of this earth
00:27:54.06\00:27:55.94
and not have to
be here on the earth
00:27:55.95\00:27:57.76
during the time of trouble,
00:27:57.77\00:27:59.16
during the
persecution that is described
00:27:59.17\00:28:01.62
in the book of Revelation
00:28:01.63\00:28:02.62
from that Chapter
1, Chapter 4. Yes.
00:28:02.63\00:28:05.25
And that's the
essence of Futurism.
00:28:05.26\00:28:08.30
And Futurism of the
two, Futurism is the one
00:28:08.31\00:28:10.75
that God basically
gained the most deem
00:28:10.76\00:28:13.69
that caught with Christianity
00:28:13.70\00:28:17.83
and many denominations
today and it is being taught
00:28:17.84\00:28:20.01
as the most prevalent
00:28:20.02\00:28:20.99
methodology for
interpreting prophecy.
00:28:21.00\00:28:24.74
But in doing so, we, I think
ended our program by saying
00:28:24.75\00:28:28.73
that is deviating really
pastors from the reformers
00:28:28.74\00:28:33.49
and what they
viewed as the essential
00:28:33.50\00:28:37.65
for understanding
prophecy in its proper context.
00:28:37.66\00:28:41.01
And one of those
contexts they say that
00:28:41.02\00:28:43.15
they went to were
the writings of Daniel.
00:28:43.16\00:28:45.61
Daniel in Revelation
are bookends, to prophecy.
00:28:45.62\00:28:49.10
Daniel reveals things
that will come to pass
00:28:49.11\00:28:52.56
in the latter days but
then seals up the book.
00:28:52.57\00:28:55.35
It's not understandable.
00:28:55.36\00:28:56.65
Knowledge of these
things will not be available
00:28:56.66\00:28:59.46
until the time
of the end itself.
00:28:59.47\00:29:02.10
Of course, that period
lasts 2300 days, Daniel 8:14
00:29:02.11\00:29:06.24
and then of course Revelation,
00:29:06.25\00:29:07.43
we read Revelation 10
where it say that the delay
00:29:07.44\00:29:11.64
or the time
prophecy is being sealed up,
00:29:11.65\00:29:14.51
no longer exists that
00:29:14.52\00:29:15.75
now we can
understand those things
00:29:15.76\00:29:17.75
and the time of
the end is at hand,
00:29:17.76\00:29:20.03
which I believe we
are living in today.
00:29:20.04\00:29:22.18
Yeah, and that's
what history says,
00:29:22.19\00:29:24.38
the history says
prospective does.
00:29:24.39\00:29:26.21
It walks us through
from the ancient times
00:29:26.22\00:29:31.05
and brings us
right up to our day.
00:29:31.06\00:29:34.37
And we see that played out
00:29:34.38\00:29:36.11
particularly in
the book of Daniel.
00:29:36.12\00:29:39.22
Yeah, and Daniel
being a latter day,
00:29:39.23\00:29:42.04
these latter day prophecies
for kind of supporting
00:29:42.05\00:29:46.47
in the foundational
aspect of Historicism,
00:29:46.48\00:29:48.89
let's go there
00:29:48.90\00:29:50.31
and I would like to look at
what the reformers looked at
00:29:50.32\00:29:53.33
and what we are still today
00:29:53.34\00:29:54.86
in the
Seventh-day Adventist church
00:29:54.87\00:29:56.09
who are continue to be viewed
00:29:56.10\00:29:59.31
as the champions
of Historicism. Yes.
00:29:59.32\00:30:01.51
We are Historicists to the core
00:30:02.80\00:30:04.46
but let's look as to why
00:30:04.47\00:30:07.48
and for that we
must go to the Bible.
00:30:07.49\00:30:09.40
Remember the Bible
and the Bible alone.
00:30:09.41\00:30:11.07
That's what the principle
of the Protestant Reformers
00:30:11.08\00:30:14.13
that was their principle
that was their foundation.
00:30:15.68\00:30:18.05
And so let's
take a look at Daniel.
00:30:18.06\00:30:20.13
Let's just talk
about Daniel Chapter 2
00:30:20.14\00:30:22.74
here at the beginning because
00:30:22.75\00:30:23.72
this is probably the
most clear explanation
00:30:23.73\00:30:26.03
of why the reformers
adopted the historicists model.
00:30:26.04\00:30:31.33
Daniel chapter 2,
just a kind of give you
00:30:31.34\00:30:34.12
a little bit of a flavor
for what's happening here.
00:30:34.13\00:30:38.82
Daniel and his three
friends and more than that,
00:30:38.83\00:30:42.34
Judah had been taking
captive by Nebuchadnezzar
00:30:44.30\00:30:48.68
and his kingdom of Babylon.
00:30:48.69\00:30:50.92
And they had
brought them from Jerusalem
00:30:50.93\00:30:53.94
in the captivity in Babylon
and began to rule over them
00:30:53.95\00:30:56.97
and began to what you say,
00:30:56.98\00:31:01.39
especially with
Daniel and his three friends
00:31:01.40\00:31:03.04
trained them up in
the ways of Babylon.
00:31:03.05\00:31:06.24
Well, Daniel and
his three friends
00:31:06.25\00:31:07.82
began to resist a bit
00:31:07.83\00:31:09.31
and they were some issues
00:31:09.32\00:31:10.57
that are talked
about in Daniel 1,
00:31:10.58\00:31:12.14
specifically in the area of diet
00:31:12.15\00:31:14.13
and so of course,
this program isn't on that
00:31:14.14\00:31:16.86
but there is definitely
a difference so to speak
00:31:16.87\00:31:19.75
between the wise man of Babylon
00:31:19.76\00:31:21.65
and Daniel and his three friends
00:31:21.66\00:31:24.11
who had been taken captive
and then brought to Babylon.
00:31:24.12\00:31:28.21
We get to Chapter 2
where Nebuchadnezzar
00:31:28.22\00:31:30.55
the whole scene shifts
00:31:30.56\00:31:31.59
to Nebuchadnezzar and his dream.
00:31:31.60\00:31:34.26
He has a dream
00:31:34.27\00:31:35.92
and in that dream
something profound happens.
00:31:35.93\00:31:39.99
I mean, may be
you've experienced
00:31:40.00\00:31:41.36
this before pastor as well.
00:31:41.37\00:31:43.23
You have a
dream, you know it's big
00:31:43.24\00:31:44.91
but you can't quite remember
00:31:44.92\00:31:45.97
everything that
requires. Oh, yes.
00:31:45.98\00:31:47.80
Well, it was even worse for him.
00:31:47.81\00:31:49.55
It was so
profound, but yet he couldn't
00:31:49.56\00:31:51.44
even understand the
elementary pieces of it.
00:31:51.45\00:31:53.58
Just even begin to
put the picture together.
00:31:53.59\00:31:56.71
And he was so
concerned about it,
00:31:56.72\00:31:58.13
he could hardly even sleep
00:31:58.14\00:31:59.59
and he put out the word
that all of the wise men,
00:31:59.60\00:32:03.04
not only were they to come up
00:32:03.05\00:32:04.31
with the
interpretation of the dream
00:32:04.32\00:32:05.81
they were to come up
with the dream itself.
00:32:05.82\00:32:09.13
And can you
imagine what some of these
00:32:09.14\00:32:11.35
"wise men" thought about that.
00:32:11.36\00:32:14.63
In fact, their
response to the king
00:32:14.64\00:32:16.19
was no one ever does that.
00:32:16.20\00:32:17.77
I mean we can come up
with an interpretation
00:32:17.78\00:32:19.80
but we can't come up
with the dream itself.
00:32:19.81\00:32:22.27
Of course, the response
by king Nebuchadnezzar was,
00:32:22.28\00:32:24.73
listen if you are truly wise
00:32:24.74\00:32:26.02
you can come up
with the whole thing.
00:32:26.03\00:32:28.67
They didn't like that
and the Edith that went out
00:32:28.68\00:32:31.30
of course was
that they would die
00:32:31.31\00:32:33.14
if they weren't
able to come up with it.
00:32:33.15\00:32:34.75
Daniel heard about it.
00:32:34.76\00:32:36.32
His friends heard about
it and they began to pray.
00:32:36.33\00:32:39.58
And as they prayed,
they trusted in the Lord
00:32:39.59\00:32:41.83
that He would
provide the interpretation
00:32:41.84\00:32:44.17
and the dream for Nebuchadnezzar
00:32:44.18\00:32:47.08
and the word goes
out that Nebuchadnezzar,
00:32:47.09\00:32:49.72
the king should meet with Daniel
00:32:49.73\00:32:51.99
about this very thing.
00:32:52.00\00:32:53.95
And so let's see,
00:32:53.96\00:32:56.51
let's pick up
this passage the story,
00:32:56.52\00:33:01.09
let's see here with verse,
00:33:01.10\00:33:03.74
let's talk about verse 17,
00:33:03.75\00:33:05.99
it says Daniel went to his house
00:33:06.00\00:33:08.05
after hearing
about this death decree
00:33:08.06\00:33:11.65
and he made the decision
known to Hananiah, Mishael,
00:33:11.66\00:33:15.46
and Azariah, his companions,
00:33:15.47\00:33:18.41
that they might
sick mercies from God,
00:33:18.42\00:33:21.05
the God of heaven,
concerning the secret,
00:33:21.06\00:33:23.50
so that Daniel
and his companions
00:33:23.51\00:33:25.01
might not perish with the rest
00:33:25.02\00:33:26.39
of the wise men of Babylon.
00:33:26.40\00:33:28.44
Then the secret was revealed
to Daniel in a night vision,
00:33:28.45\00:33:31.75
so Daniel blessed
the God of heaven.
00:33:31.76\00:33:34.16
So Daniel received,
none with the interpretation
00:33:34.17\00:33:36.97
but the dream
itself, from God himself.
00:33:36.98\00:33:40.14
Yeah and these Hebrews
were in very hostile atmosphere
00:33:40.15\00:33:44.89
and this was a common practice
00:33:44.90\00:33:46.15
back in those days.
00:33:46.16\00:33:47.36
You take a group of people,
00:33:47.37\00:33:48.77
you sort of siphon off the best.
00:33:48.78\00:33:50.77
You change their name,
you change their culture,
00:33:50.78\00:33:52.69
you change their dress
00:33:52.70\00:33:54.20
and you really try to make them
00:33:54.21\00:33:56.09
into something
that they are not.
00:33:56.10\00:33:57.46
The names are
changed, Hananiah, Azariah,
00:33:57.47\00:33:59.24
Mishael changed to Shadrach,
00:33:59.25\00:34:00.99
Meshach, and Abednego.
00:34:01.00\00:34:02.73
And you really try
to co-op their thinking,
00:34:02.74\00:34:06.59
try to brainwash
them and change them.
00:34:06.60\00:34:10.02
So there is this
pull now for them
00:34:10.03\00:34:12.14
to hold on to their
garden and to their faith,
00:34:12.15\00:34:14.25
and now God gives
them an opportunity
00:34:14.26\00:34:17.34
to show to this
hostel environment
00:34:17.35\00:34:20.90
the kind of God that they serve.
00:34:20.91\00:34:22.24
Yes, and he does
saw in a vision. Yes.
00:34:22.25\00:34:24.38
So clearly Daniel is a prophet
00:34:24.39\00:34:25.88
and he has had
visions throughout this book
00:34:25.89\00:34:29.03
that are
relating different times
00:34:29.04\00:34:31.40
and different kingdoms.
00:34:31.41\00:34:34.36
So let's look at verse 26 here
00:34:34.37\00:34:36.56
because Daniel
comes before the king
00:34:36.57\00:34:38.60
and the king says to Daniel
00:34:38.61\00:34:40.29
whose name was Belteshazzar,
00:34:40.30\00:34:42.49
"Are thou able to make
known unto me the dream
00:34:42.50\00:34:45.46
which I have seen,"
and it's interpretation,
00:34:45.47\00:34:49.10
Daniel answered in the presence
00:34:49.11\00:34:50.64
of the king and said,
00:34:50.65\00:34:51.89
"the secret which the king
has demanded- the wise men,
00:34:51.90\00:34:55.82
the astrologers, the magicians,
00:34:55.83\00:34:57.65
the soothsayers,
cannot declare to the king.
00:34:57.66\00:35:00.68
But there is a God in
heaven who reveals secrets,
00:35:00.69\00:35:04.63
and He has made known
to the king Nebuchadnezzar
00:35:04.64\00:35:07.08
what will be in the latter days.
00:35:07.09\00:35:09.56
Your dream and the
visions of your head
00:35:09.57\00:35:12.82
will upon your bed, are these.
00:35:12.83\00:35:16.17
And then we get
into what this dream
00:35:16.18\00:35:19.36
that king Nebuchadnezzar had
00:35:19.37\00:35:21.22
which was very much a
dream that God had given him.
00:35:21.23\00:35:25.16
I mean the statement is clear
00:35:25.17\00:35:26.40
that God gave Nebuchadnezzar,
00:35:26.41\00:35:28.02
He revealed to Nebuchadnezzar
00:35:28.03\00:35:29.81
what will be in the latter days.
00:35:29.82\00:35:32.87
So here we have then as
we began to look at this,
00:35:32.88\00:35:36.55
just to provide
another quick snap shot,
00:35:36.56\00:35:39.15
we have God
giving Nebuchadnezzar
00:35:39.16\00:35:41.84
the king a dream
of what will happen
00:35:41.85\00:35:43.98
in the latter days.
00:35:43.99\00:35:45.99
But notice as the
dream becomes known to Daniel
00:35:46.00\00:35:50.44
and he relates them to the king,
00:35:50.45\00:35:52.10
notice where he begins
this latter day prophecy.
00:35:52.11\00:35:55.27
It's says in verse 29,
00:35:56.99\00:35:59.85
"As for you O king,
00:35:59.86\00:36:01.00
thoughts came to your
mind while on your bed
00:36:01.01\00:36:03.28
about what would
come to pass after this
00:36:03.29\00:36:06.05
and he who reveals secrets
has meant to known to you
00:36:06.06\00:36:08.65
what that will be
00:36:08.66\00:36:10.53
but as for me this secret
has not been revealed to me
00:36:10.54\00:36:13.03
because I have more
wisdom than any one living,
00:36:13.04\00:36:16.54
but for our sakes who made known
00:36:16.55\00:36:18.98
the interpretation of the king,
00:36:18.99\00:36:20.81
and that you may know
the thoughts of your heart.
00:36:20.82\00:36:24.32
You, O king, will watching
and behold a great image.
00:36:24.33\00:36:27.80
This great image,
whose splendor was excellent,
00:36:29.29\00:36:32.07
stood before you;
and its form was awesome.
00:36:32.08\00:36:35.02
This image's
head was of fine gold,
00:36:35.03\00:36:38.11
its chest and arms of silver,
00:36:38.12\00:36:39.96
its belly and thighs of bronze,
00:36:39.97\00:36:42.18
its legs of iron,
00:36:42.19\00:36:43.57
and its feet partly of
iron and partly of clay.
00:36:43.58\00:36:47.84
You watch while a stone
was cut out without hands,
00:36:47.85\00:36:50.52
which stroke the image on
its feet of iron and clay,
00:36:50.53\00:36:53.98
and broke them in pieces.
00:36:53.99\00:36:56.06
Then the iron and the
clay, the bronze, the silver,
00:36:56.07\00:36:58.47
the gold were crust together,
00:36:58.48\00:37:00.18
and became like chaff from
the summer threshing floors.
00:37:00.19\00:37:03.83
The wind carried them away,
00:37:03.84\00:37:04.99
so that no trace
of them was found:
00:37:05.00\00:37:07.41
and the stone was struck
00:37:07.42\00:37:08.51
the image became
a great mountain,
00:37:08.52\00:37:10.16
and filled the earth.
00:37:10.17\00:37:12.12
This is the
dream; now we will tell
00:37:12.13\00:37:15.13
the interpretation
of it before the king.
00:37:15.14\00:37:18.23
You want to pick this
up maybe here in Verse 36,
00:37:18.24\00:37:21.85
and we will just read through
00:37:21.86\00:37:22.83
the first part,
the first few verses.
00:37:22.84\00:37:24.71
At Verse 37, "You, O
king, are a king of kings:
00:37:27.17\00:37:31.24
for the God of heaven
has given your kingdom,
00:37:31.25\00:37:33.84
power, and strength, and glory.
00:37:33.85\00:37:36.20
And wherever the
children of men dwell,
00:37:36.21\00:37:38.48
or the beasts of the field
and the birds of the heaven,
00:37:38.49\00:37:43.80
he has given
them into your hand,
00:37:43.81\00:37:46.61
and has made you
ruler over them all.
00:37:46.62\00:37:49.25
You are this head of
gold. So identifies Him.
00:37:49.26\00:37:53.39
You are the
start. We start with you.
00:37:53.40\00:37:55.55
You are the head of gold.
00:37:55.56\00:37:56.70
And notice, this
is a super power.
00:37:56.71\00:37:58.95
He put all these things
00:37:58.96\00:38:00.13
into the hand of
king Nebuchadnezzar.
00:38:00.14\00:38:02.03
Very true, yeah.
00:38:02.04\00:38:03.01
So one of the things
we are talking about here
00:38:03.02\00:38:04.57
is not just it
starts with Babylon
00:38:04.58\00:38:06.74
that this vision
in its succession
00:38:06.75\00:38:08.78
as it continues to go
through other kingdoms,
00:38:08.79\00:38:11.14
it's referring to
superpowers, world kingdoms,
00:38:11.15\00:38:14.62
kingdoms that
influence the world
00:38:14.63\00:38:15.94
that impacted the
world and all its people.
00:38:15.95\00:38:18.53
Then go ahead,
just maybe a couple more
00:38:21.16\00:38:22.83
and we will see the
progression here, verse 39.
00:38:22.84\00:38:25.27
"But after you shall
arise another kingdom
00:38:25.28\00:38:28.04
inferior to yours, then another,
00:38:28.05\00:38:31.48
a third kingdom of bronze,
00:38:31.49\00:38:34.42
which shall rule
over all the earth.
00:38:34.43\00:38:36.69
So we are still
talking about universal rule
00:38:36.70\00:38:38.57
not quite as glorious
or strong or magnificent
00:38:38.58\00:38:43.31
or opulent as Babylon
but still being world power.
00:38:43.32\00:38:48.94
Yes, yeah.
00:38:48.95\00:38:50.86
And the fourth
kingdom shall be a strong
00:38:50.87\00:38:53.09
as iron in his as much
as iron breaks in pieces
00:38:53.10\00:38:55.94
and subdueth everything
and like iron that crosses
00:38:55.95\00:39:00.61
that kingdom
will break in pieces
00:39:00.62\00:39:03.22
and crust all the others.
00:39:03.23\00:39:05.20
Okay, and then he
gets into the iron
00:39:05.21\00:39:08.31
and clay mixed
together in the feet,
00:39:08.32\00:39:10.34
which clearly
implies the residue
00:39:10.35\00:39:12.09
of the legs of iron,
that kingdom residue there,
00:39:12.10\00:39:15.47
but yet it's divided because
iron does not mix with clay
00:39:15.48\00:39:19.12
and then of course
00:39:19.13\00:39:20.10
we get down to the
stone that was cut out
00:39:20.11\00:39:24.12
of the mountain
without hands, verse 45,
00:39:24.13\00:39:27.25
that when it broke or struck
00:39:27.26\00:39:28.93
the feet of iron mix with clay
00:39:28.94\00:39:32.27
that it broke not only that
00:39:32.28\00:39:33.86
but it broke all
the entire image,
00:39:33.87\00:39:36.48
all its metals
represented there and in fact,
00:39:36.49\00:39:40.98
we read earlier here
00:39:40.99\00:39:42.13
that no trace of
them was found, verse 35.
00:39:42.14\00:39:45.43
And of course that
kingdom is the kingdom of God
00:39:45.44\00:39:49.74
that strikes the image. Yeah.
00:39:49.75\00:39:51.12
So you find here in this vision,
00:39:51.13\00:39:52.60
pastor that start
point is with Babylon,
00:39:52.61\00:39:58.60
the time at the
present, the king of Babylon,
00:39:58.61\00:40:00.69
king Nebuchadnezzar which is why
00:40:00.70\00:40:02.63
God gave him that dream. Yes.
00:40:02.64\00:40:05.03
But then there
was a progression.
00:40:05.04\00:40:06.01
There was
another kingdom after him
00:40:06.02\00:40:07.20
and another kingdom after that
00:40:07.21\00:40:08.30
and the fourth kingdom.
00:40:08.31\00:40:09.77
But then as we get
to the fourth kingdom,
00:40:09.78\00:40:11.58
there was no fifth
kingdom per se except that
00:40:11.59\00:40:14.01
there is a
divided fourth kingdom
00:40:14.02\00:40:16.33
that looks a lot different.
00:40:16.34\00:40:19.06
This Chapter 2 of this image,
00:40:19.07\00:40:21.84
this dream that we're seeing
here, is also replayed out.
00:40:21.85\00:40:27.29
Its various pluses replayed out
00:40:27.30\00:40:28.79
through the rest of
Daniel through other imagery,
00:40:28.80\00:40:31.71
through other symbols.
00:40:31.72\00:40:32.69
We find beast
coming up in Chapter 7,
00:40:32.70\00:40:36.17
with the same kind of things.
00:40:36.18\00:40:37.85
A beast is a king
or kingdom is to find
00:40:37.86\00:40:40.21
as a king of kingdom,
00:40:40.22\00:40:41.76
so referring to
the same kind of thing,
00:40:41.77\00:40:44.70
we find also in Chapter 8,
00:40:44.71\00:40:46.79
a couple other kinds of beast
00:40:46.80\00:40:48.26
but specific kinds of beast.
00:40:48.27\00:40:50.19
There's a ram and
there's a goat there,
00:40:50.20\00:40:52.25
and things that happened there.
00:40:52.26\00:40:53.92
But Daniel is full of visions
00:40:53.93\00:40:56.53
and dreams giving
to people to repeat
00:40:56.54\00:40:59.61
what will happen
overtime in prophecy,
00:40:59.62\00:41:02.24
but in larger
provide for the detail
00:41:02.25\00:41:05.12
about those things.
00:41:05.13\00:41:06.10
So this is repeating
and enlarging throughout
00:41:06.11\00:41:09.32
from this dream on
down through the visions
00:41:09.33\00:41:11.26
given to Daniel
through the rest of the Chapter
00:41:11.27\00:41:13.51
or through the rest of the book,
00:41:13.52\00:41:15.49
that are then
picked up in Revelation
00:41:15.50\00:41:18.54
as the other bookend
00:41:18.55\00:41:20.16
and especially we
find I say, picked up,
00:41:20.17\00:41:22.09
we find that in Revelation 13,
00:41:22.10\00:41:24.98
a repeating of the same
beast powers of Daniel 7,
00:41:24.99\00:41:29.05
but in reverse
order. In Reverse Order!
00:41:29.06\00:41:30.63
So even Daniel is looking
00:41:30.64\00:41:32.71
forward and down
at the end of time
00:41:32.72\00:41:34.80
and Revelation looks back
00:41:34.81\00:41:36.81
opposite
direction through Daniel,
00:41:36.82\00:41:39.23
telling us these are bookends,
00:41:39.24\00:41:41.68
both referring to or bring us
00:41:41.69\00:41:44.13
down to the events
in the latter days.
00:41:44.14\00:41:46.23
And looking this
through historical lenses
00:41:46.24\00:41:49.00
makes it so clear
we are talking about,
00:41:49.01\00:41:50.67
it's a session
of world kingdoms,
00:41:50.68\00:41:53.19
each differing from the
one above in wealth and glory
00:41:53.20\00:41:57.51
and power and stamina
and affect on the word
00:41:57.52\00:42:01.34
but a succession
of wording powers
00:42:01.35\00:42:03.71
and Daniel 2 sets
it forth so nicely
00:42:03.72\00:42:06.87
and so you don't really
have to be deep theologian,
00:42:06.88\00:42:11.60
Daniel 2 lays that out for you.
00:42:11.61\00:42:13.71
It doesn't give you a
lot of detail just yet
00:42:13.72\00:42:16.01
because you are not
ready for a lot of detail
00:42:16.02\00:42:17.27
or not intricate stuff,
it just gives you the idea
00:42:17.28\00:42:20.23
that they are going to be
00:42:20.24\00:42:21.21
a succession of world kingdoms
00:42:21.22\00:42:24.24
that are strong
but different in nature
00:42:24.25\00:42:27.41
then you gonna have a divided
00:42:27.42\00:42:29.59
set of entities
some strong, some weak
00:42:29.60\00:42:33.01
and in that time God is going to
00:42:33.02\00:42:34.83
call into this thing
00:42:34.84\00:42:36.48
and this image
is going to be gone
00:42:36.49\00:42:38.43
and this world
will give away to a new,
00:42:38.44\00:42:41.38
dare I say, World Order,
00:42:41.39\00:42:42.57
a new Universal Order really,
00:42:42.58\00:42:44.90
when Christ comes and
puts an end to this age
00:42:44.91\00:42:48.36
that we now find ourselves..
00:42:48.37\00:42:49.41
So it's a nice little package,
00:42:49.42\00:42:51.22
not a lot of
relief, not a lot of detail
00:42:51.23\00:42:53.36
but you do get a very
broad picture of what's going on
00:42:53.37\00:42:56.28
and that's what God
want Nebuchadnezzar to see
00:42:56.29\00:42:59.07
at that moment and that time.
00:42:59.08\00:43:00.61
and through the
rest of prophecy,
00:43:00.62\00:43:02.41
it seems like the
Lord depicts these kingdom.
00:43:02.42\00:43:05.02
I mean, He doesn't seem,
00:43:05.03\00:43:06.13
He does depicts these kingdoms
00:43:06.14\00:43:07.49
in the form of beast
00:43:07.50\00:43:08.72
rather then this image. Yeah.
00:43:08.73\00:43:10.52
Now the image
plays its part in that.
00:43:10.53\00:43:12.79
We find shortly
after that in Chapter 3
00:43:12.80\00:43:16.45
that king Nebuchadnezzar
is not happy with the image
00:43:16.46\00:43:19.46
just having a head of gold.
00:43:19.47\00:43:20.48
He says, you know, if
gold is referring to Babylon,
00:43:20.49\00:43:23.32
the whole image needs to be gold
00:43:23.33\00:43:25.00
and so it's really
defiance of what's God plan was.
00:43:25.01\00:43:28.13
Very much so, yes.
00:43:28.14\00:43:29.48
And we don't have
time to go into all of that
00:43:29.49\00:43:31.49
but just kind of sophist
to say for now at least that
00:43:31.50\00:43:35.88
we are seeing a model
00:43:35.89\00:43:36.94
of Historicism here in prophecy.
00:43:36.95\00:43:39.40
It's got a
starting point in history
00:43:39.41\00:43:41.55
and it's a
timeline, an unbroken timeline
00:43:41.56\00:43:46.39
down to the very end referred
00:43:46.40\00:43:47.78
to as the latter
days that events occur
00:43:47.79\00:43:51.73
and as Daniel
repeats and enlarger
00:43:51.74\00:43:54.28
through other
imagery throughout Daniel,
00:43:54.29\00:43:56.72
we need to find out
where on that timeline
00:43:56.73\00:43:59.23
that they plugged
in. Yes, yes, yes.
00:43:59.24\00:44:01.81
And we do that it seems
like in recent Daniel 7 and 8,
00:44:01.82\00:44:05.07
through different imagery
like beast and other things
00:44:05.08\00:44:09.54
and it's
interesting to know that always
00:44:09.55\00:44:11.57
the four kingdoms
are represented there.
00:44:11.58\00:44:13.60
Even when you get to
beast there are four beasts,
00:44:13.61\00:44:15.82
just like there are
four metals. Yes, yes.
00:44:15.83\00:44:18.45
And the, when you
get to those kingdom
00:44:18.46\00:44:23.52
we know, of course,
the first one is Babylon
00:44:23.53\00:44:26.39
that's already been told,
00:44:26.40\00:44:28.22
but Daniel
actually has revealed to him
00:44:28.23\00:44:30.65
the next two kingdom. Yes.
00:44:30.66\00:44:32.88
Now talking about
them is being beast.
00:44:32.89\00:44:35.52
Yes, it does
shift to that instead
00:44:35.53\00:44:37.06
of the imagery
of the image itself.
00:44:37.07\00:44:40.83
But the next two metals
which are silver and bronze
00:44:40.84\00:44:45.31
are the second
and third kingdoms
00:44:45.32\00:44:47.41
of Daniel Chapter 7 and 8,
00:44:47.42\00:44:50.05
and it says in
Daniel 8 verse 20 and 21
00:44:50.06\00:44:55.32
that the ram
that's the first beast
00:44:55.33\00:44:58.40
identify in Daniel 8 represents
00:44:58.41\00:45:00.88
the kings of Media and Persia.
00:45:00.89\00:45:02.90
And we know for a fact
that the Medes and Persians,
00:45:03.86\00:45:06.71
some refer to it as Medo-Persia,
00:45:06.72\00:45:08.84
are the ones that
conquered Babylon.
00:45:08.85\00:45:11.35
So it make sense
that the next kingdom
00:45:11.36\00:45:13.17
would be Medo-Persia.
00:45:13.18\00:45:14.70
What we ask in history
00:45:14.71\00:45:16.11
what was the kingdom
that conquered Medo-Persia?
00:45:16.12\00:45:18.81
Well, the Greeks did that
00:45:18.82\00:45:19.82
and they did that very swiftly
00:45:19.83\00:45:21.80
and we find in 8 verse 21,
00:45:21.81\00:45:24.87
and the male goat is
the kingdom of Greece:
00:45:24.88\00:45:27.90
So there is even not
just a historical reference
00:45:27.91\00:45:30.40
we can go to find out
00:45:30.41\00:45:31.63
the progression of
this time prophecy,
00:45:31.64\00:45:33.99
the Bible itself even tells us
00:45:34.00\00:45:35.48
what those next
two kingdoms are.
00:45:35.49\00:45:37.60
And of course this is
played out in history.
00:45:37.61\00:45:40.24
So we are
getting, the nice thing
00:45:40.25\00:45:43.13
about Daniel is, every
time you come back to this
00:45:43.14\00:45:45.28
you get a little more
coloring in the lines.
00:45:45.29\00:45:48.10
You get this broad
picture in Daniel 2.
00:45:48.11\00:45:50.70
You know there are
succession of word kingdoms,
00:45:50.71\00:45:53.56
but you don't
get a lot of relief,
00:45:53.57\00:45:56.10
a lot of detail I should say.
00:45:56.11\00:45:57.97
But when you go now
to Daniel 8, Daniel 9,
00:45:57.98\00:46:00.58
you get a little more detail,
00:46:00.59\00:46:01.59
you get a little
more coloring in.
00:46:01.60\00:46:03.28
And of course this
has been backed by history
00:46:03.29\00:46:05.78
and so you see that
the Bible is a book,
00:46:05.79\00:46:08.94
dare I say, of history.
00:46:08.95\00:46:10.64
There is a history
timeline that's very plain,
00:46:10.65\00:46:14.71
very little, very
evident to be seen
00:46:14.72\00:46:19.61
as you go back to
these kingdoms again
00:46:19.62\00:46:22.55
and again and again,
00:46:22.56\00:46:23.53
to get a little
more detail on each one.
00:46:23.54\00:46:25.22
And I think to a
great degree today,
00:46:25.23\00:46:27.68
if we forget our
history then what is the text
00:46:27.69\00:46:31.04
that we don't understand
how God has laid us, really.
00:46:31.05\00:46:35.22
And so it's a
same way with prophecy
00:46:35.23\00:46:37.35
if you don't
understand the history
00:46:37.36\00:46:38.75
and how it ties into
the prophetic timeline
00:46:38.76\00:46:41.18
then you can almost forget
in prophecy where you are.
00:46:41.19\00:46:45.28
And that to a
great degree has fed
00:46:45.29\00:46:47.14
or fueled
Futurism. Yes, yes, yes.
00:46:47.15\00:46:50.01
And I want to, as
it's gonna tell you
00:46:50.02\00:46:52.73
where the Futurism
model, kind of began here.
00:46:52.74\00:46:55.96
And for that let's
turn Daniel Chapter 9.
00:46:55.97\00:46:58.38
There is couple of time
prophecies within Daniel,
00:46:58.39\00:47:01.29
the first one is
Daniel 8:14 through 23,
00:47:01.30\00:47:03.26
the days I referred to earlier
00:47:03.27\00:47:04.68
which is actually years,
00:47:04.69\00:47:06.71
because a day
equals a year in prophecy.
00:47:06.72\00:47:09.24
But then there is the
490 which is the 70 weeks,
00:47:09.25\00:47:13.51
seven time seventy is 490 days,
00:47:13.52\00:47:16.95
day equals year,
490 year prophecy
00:47:16.96\00:47:20.05
which is a part
of the 2300 years,
00:47:20.06\00:47:23.41
the beginning part
of that 2300 years.
00:47:23.42\00:47:26.25
And I know that,
we are not getting
00:47:26.26\00:47:27.86
into a lot of detail on this
00:47:27.87\00:47:29.04
and that's not
really our goal here today,
00:47:29.05\00:47:31.55
but I do want to
show you something
00:47:31.56\00:47:33.54
that is often abused,
00:47:33.55\00:47:35.42
that is a essential to Futurism.
00:47:35.43\00:47:38.52
That if you
understand what happened,
00:47:38.53\00:47:42.38
you will know immediately
you must toss out Futurism
00:47:42.39\00:47:46.13
entirely and
stick with Historicism.
00:47:46.14\00:47:48.29
So Daniel Chapter
9 gives a sequence
00:47:48.30\00:47:53.44
of what happens during
these 70 weeks, these 490 years.
00:47:53.45\00:47:59.27
And when we get to
the end of the 490 years
00:47:59.28\00:48:02.32
there is a one week left.
00:48:02.33\00:48:05.40
The last week of those 70 weeks
00:48:05.41\00:48:08.50
is covered in
verses, let's see here,
00:48:08.51\00:48:13.88
in verse 27 for the most part.
00:48:13.89\00:48:16.52
Yes. Okay.
00:48:16.53\00:48:18.75
So it says here, in
fact, let's start with 26
00:48:18.76\00:48:22.98
'cause it's
covered in 26 as well.
00:48:22.99\00:48:25.18
You will see in 25 it
talks should be 7 weeks
00:48:25.19\00:48:28.14
and 62 weeks which added
to 69 covered down through 25.
00:48:28.15\00:48:33.74
But then 26 and 27
leaves the last week
00:48:33.75\00:48:36.07
and here is what
he says about it.
00:48:36.08\00:48:38.14
And after 62 weeks
that brings us to the 69
00:48:38.15\00:48:40.98
'cause you got 7 and 62.
00:48:40.99\00:48:43.63
"Messiah shall be cut
off, but not for himself:
00:48:43.64\00:48:47.22
and the people of the
prince who has to come
00:48:47.23\00:48:49.11
shall destroy the
city and the sanctuary;
00:48:49.12\00:48:51.49
the end of it
shall be with a flood,
00:48:51.50\00:48:53.71
until the end of the war
desolations are determined."
00:48:53.72\00:48:57.61
Talking about that last
week is refers to as the week
00:48:57.62\00:49:01.97
where the Messiah shall
come in the middle of that week,
00:49:01.98\00:49:04.89
he shall be cut off.
00:49:04.90\00:49:07.07
So this the 490
years, the 70 weeks,
00:49:07.08\00:49:11.10
that very last week is referred
00:49:11.11\00:49:14.00
to as the
manifestation of the Messiah.
00:49:14.01\00:49:18.28
And what His
ministry is all about.
00:49:18.29\00:49:20.71
And here is the thing with that.
00:49:20.72\00:49:23.54
For years, for centuries,
00:49:23.55\00:49:26.67
this prophecy of 70 weeks
00:49:26.68\00:49:28.38
was referred to as
the Messianic Prophecy,
00:49:28.39\00:49:32.00
the Messianic Time Prophecy.
00:49:32.01\00:49:33.53
It was prophecy revealing
when the Messiah would come,
00:49:33.54\00:49:38.37
and the Messiah comes in the,
00:49:38.38\00:49:40.23
he manifest himself.
00:49:40.24\00:49:42.09
He is anointed for ministry
00:49:42.10\00:49:43.46
at the beginning
of that 70th week.
00:49:43.47\00:49:46.40
Now as you go on
here, it talks about
00:49:46.41\00:49:49.19
that he referring
back to the Messiah
00:49:49.20\00:49:51.28
shall confirm covenant
with many for one week,
00:49:51.29\00:49:54.25
that's the last week but
in the middle of the week
00:49:54.26\00:49:56.72
he shall bring and to sacrifice
00:49:56.73\00:49:58.35
and offering which Christ did,
00:49:58.36\00:50:01.32
through the
cross, and on the wing
00:50:01.33\00:50:03.66
of abomination shall
be one who makes desolate
00:50:03.67\00:50:06.80
even until the consummation
00:50:06.81\00:50:08.13
which is determined is
poured out on the desolate.
00:50:08.14\00:50:11.23
So this last week
00:50:11.24\00:50:12.43
which is referring
to the time of Christ,
00:50:12.44\00:50:15.96
he is anointing for ministry,
00:50:15.97\00:50:17.34
his last 7 years of
ministry that were cut short
00:50:17.35\00:50:19.79
by his crucifixion in
the middle of the week,
00:50:19.80\00:50:22.95
and He confirmed that Covenant
00:50:22.96\00:50:24.08
with the rest of all
through His the apostles
00:50:24.09\00:50:27.63
that He anointed for Ministry
00:50:27.64\00:50:28.84
is to preach the
Gospel, referring that week
00:50:28.85\00:50:32.35
what happens in Futurism
is, they take that 70th week,
00:50:32.36\00:50:36.59
that one week, they
remove it from the timeline,
00:50:36.60\00:50:39.96
pick it up and put it
at the very end of time
00:50:39.97\00:50:43.78
to refer to a time
after Revelation Chapter 4,
00:50:43.79\00:50:47.76
which is still today
in the future they say
00:50:47.77\00:50:51.38
and they say refers to
not Christ but the Antichrist.
00:50:51.39\00:50:55.65
Right, and there
was not justification
00:50:55.66\00:50:57.95
for lifting that
week out of context
00:50:57.96\00:51:00.01
and taking it all the
way down to the end of time.
00:51:00.02\00:51:02.20
The description
here says until Messiah.
00:51:04.72\00:51:07.82
So it's not a Cataloguing
00:51:07.83\00:51:12.58
or Identification
of the birth of Christ,
00:51:12.59\00:51:14.79
it's at the point
that began His ministry.
00:51:14.80\00:51:16.74
That's when he became Messiah,
00:51:16.75\00:51:17.91
that's when he
became the one who began
00:51:17.92\00:51:20.85
to be our example and
to do the work for us.
00:51:20.86\00:51:22.95
So it's a
designation of the time
00:51:22.96\00:51:25.24
when Jesus Ministry would begin,
00:51:25.25\00:51:27.47
to lift that and
take it to the end,
00:51:27.48\00:51:29.38
there is simply no
Biblical justification
00:51:29.39\00:51:31.81
for removing that
week from its fellows.
00:51:31.82\00:51:34.45
It's a package.
00:51:34.46\00:51:35.43
You got 70 weeks.
00:51:35.44\00:51:36.41
You got 69 and 1.
00:51:36.42\00:51:38.52
The reason that
one is designated
00:51:38.53\00:51:40.64
is because something
specific and spectacular
00:51:40.65\00:51:43.25
and wonderful
it's going to happen,
00:51:43.26\00:51:44.68
but its part of that
whole package, not separated
00:51:44.69\00:51:48.14
and taken down to the evidence.
00:51:48.15\00:51:49.31
And this is the
essential role of Historicism.
00:51:49.32\00:51:51.14
You cannot break out
00:51:51.15\00:51:53.47
a part of prophetic timeline,
00:51:53.48\00:51:55.21
and put it somewhere else.
00:51:55.22\00:51:57.06
Historicism says it's
an unbroken time prophecy
00:51:57.07\00:52:00.02
that has a
beginning that has an end
00:52:00.03\00:52:02.14
and you can't
muddy or you can't remove
00:52:02.15\00:52:05.44
any of its part
along that timeline.
00:52:05.45\00:52:07.29
And if you pull it out of
context you actually erase
00:52:07.30\00:52:10.66
the identification
of Jesus as Messiah.
00:52:10.67\00:52:13.16
That's the biggest part.
00:52:13.17\00:52:14.40
I mean the most
sinister aspect of Futurism is
00:52:14.41\00:52:18.97
that you are making
Christ, the Antichrist.
00:52:18.98\00:52:21.57
Precisely, yeah, yeah.
00:52:21.58\00:52:23.68
The greatest work ever
done on behalf of humanity
00:52:23.69\00:52:26.95
gets no identification
if you pull that week out
00:52:26.96\00:52:30.42
because it's that
week that set aside,
00:52:30.43\00:52:32.59
identifies,
highlights, glorifies,
00:52:32.60\00:52:35.47
dare I say the work of Christ,
00:52:35.48\00:52:37.07
and if you pull
that out of there
00:52:37.08\00:52:38.20
you make Christ now Antichrist.
00:52:38.21\00:52:40.01
There you go. Yeah.
00:52:40.02\00:52:41.01
You know, and one of
the other pieces of that is
00:52:41.02\00:52:43.16
that it supported
by the Rapture Theory.
00:52:43.17\00:52:47.53
Because the
rapture is said to occur
00:52:47.54\00:52:49.76
at the beginning of that week
00:52:49.77\00:52:51.89
which leaves 7 years
for those not raptured,
00:52:51.90\00:52:54.55
the church not raptured
to experience the Antichrist,
00:52:54.56\00:52:57.71
the last battle
between truth and error,
00:52:57.72\00:53:00.13
for then people
to decide whether
00:53:00.14\00:53:01.37
or not they are
saved with Christ or not.
00:53:01.38\00:53:03.18
Now this is all False Theology.
00:53:03.19\00:53:05.21
I am sharing this with you
00:53:05.22\00:53:06.49
as an essential piece
of Futurism to show you
00:53:06.50\00:53:08.39
what's not right about it. Yeah.
00:53:08.40\00:53:10.40
And what it
essentially has done is,
00:53:10.41\00:53:12.36
it's removed Historicism
point to what Jesus did
00:53:12.37\00:53:16.53
and it puts in
place of the Antichrist
00:53:16.54\00:53:18.66
at the end of time
00:53:18.67\00:53:20.22
and also destroys
the historical timeline
00:53:20.23\00:53:22.81
of the time
prophecy that takes us
00:53:22.82\00:53:24.68
down to the end of time.
00:53:24.69\00:53:25.88
There is no then
reference point for knowing
00:53:25.89\00:53:29.86
or kind of we have done there,
00:53:29.87\00:53:32.03
there is no
reference point for knowing
00:53:32.04\00:53:33.37
when the last days start.
00:53:33.38\00:53:36.42
Because you
remove the ending point
00:53:36.43\00:53:38.38
for the 2300 days
00:53:38.39\00:53:39.51
that points to the beginning
of the Latter Day prophecy,
00:53:39.52\00:53:44.07
which then you are all
over the map again. Yeah.
00:53:44.08\00:53:48.89
You really have no anchor.
00:53:48.90\00:53:50.31
There is no way
to know where you are
00:53:50.32\00:53:52.37
or what you doing
or even where you going
00:53:52.38\00:53:54.06
because your starting
point just disappears.
00:53:54.07\00:53:57.34
You taken the blunt and eraser
00:53:57.35\00:53:59.39
and you just take it out.
00:53:59.40\00:54:00.85
So now where am I? You
just don't, you don't know.
00:54:00.86\00:54:03.05
Yeah, and this
is where this text.
00:54:03.06\00:54:04.93
Let me just
share a text with you
00:54:04.94\00:54:06.06
that comes into play here.
00:54:06.07\00:54:07.92
From Second Peter
Chapter 1 verses 19 to 21.
00:54:07.93\00:54:12.14
And so we have
the prophetic word
00:54:12.15\00:54:14.48
confirmed, which you do well
00:54:14.49\00:54:17.11
to heed as a light
that shines in a dark place
00:54:17.12\00:54:19.59
until the day dawns
and the morning star
00:54:19.60\00:54:21.36
rises in your
hearts knowing this
00:54:21.37\00:54:23.09
first that no
prophecy of the scripture
00:54:23.10\00:54:26.09
is of any
private interpretation,
00:54:26.10\00:54:29.03
for prophecy never
came by the will of man,
00:54:29.04\00:54:31.08
but holy men of God spoke
00:54:31.09\00:54:33.75
as they were moved
by the Holy Spirit.
00:54:33.76\00:54:35.99
In other words, what
we see today at least
00:54:36.00\00:54:39.35
if it's in the model
outside of Historicism,
00:54:39.36\00:54:41.73
are nothing but
private interpretations.
00:54:41.74\00:54:44.22
It is looking at the
paper to see whether or not
00:54:44.23\00:54:47.61
maybe a certain
event that happened
00:54:47.62\00:54:49.30
might fit within
a certain prophecy,
00:54:49.31\00:54:51.80
and it's grasping for straws.
00:54:51.81\00:54:55.43
It's trying to
make something fit
00:54:55.44\00:54:58.00
without any context of time
00:54:58.01\00:55:00.16
or element of time in knowing
00:55:00.17\00:55:01.54
where you are in
that time of prophecy
00:55:01.55\00:55:03.25
which is why today so many,
00:55:03.26\00:55:05.43
back to where we
started pastor, yes,
00:55:05.44\00:55:07.25
so many false prophets out there
00:55:07.26\00:55:08.94
are giving a
prophecy, yet it falls flat.
00:55:08.95\00:55:11.93
It doesn't come to proving.
00:55:11.94\00:55:13.13
It doesn't happen because
they obdurate the structure
00:55:13.14\00:55:16.55
of scripture and
obdurate the rules,
00:55:16.56\00:55:19.50
biblical rules for
interpreting prophecy.
00:55:19.51\00:55:22.15
The only way this makes sense
00:55:22.16\00:55:23.66
is to really follow the rules
00:55:23.67\00:55:26.03
and since prophecy is
and can be treacherous water,
00:55:26.04\00:55:31.32
when you go in there
00:55:31.33\00:55:32.83
you need to follow
the rules of swimming
00:55:32.84\00:55:34.46
because you can
get turn around really.
00:55:34.47\00:55:37.69
You know, when I was back
in Long Island in New York,
00:55:37.70\00:55:40.31
they had these
undercurrent red tides,
00:55:40.32\00:55:42.49
you know, you couldn't
see them but they were there.
00:55:42.50\00:55:44.50
And if you didn't watch out it
00:55:44.51\00:55:46.99
would pull you under
and you couldn't be rescued.
00:55:47.00\00:55:50.32
It is the same with prophecy.
00:55:50.33\00:55:51.30
Prophecy can be understood,
but it can be a mind feel
00:55:51.31\00:55:55.05
unless you follow those rules
00:55:55.06\00:55:56.78
laid down in the Word
for understanding prophecy.
00:55:56.79\00:55:59.95
Amen. Yeah.
00:55:59.96\00:56:01.63
You know we've
talked about a lot
00:56:01.64\00:56:03.25
in the last couple of days,
00:56:03.26\00:56:05.57
in the last couple
of program on this,
00:56:05.58\00:56:07.45
and I just want to
encourage all of you
00:56:07.46\00:56:09.45
out there who is studying this,
00:56:09.46\00:56:10.86
and maybe you have
an interest in prophecy
00:56:10.87\00:56:13.32
to really stick with the Bible
00:56:13.33\00:56:14.51
and the Bible alone.
00:56:14.52\00:56:16.24
One of the
things it comes to mind,
00:56:16.25\00:56:17.59
I've heard for in
different aspects,
00:56:17.60\00:56:20.06
you know, oh I know what
the mark of the beast is.
00:56:20.07\00:56:22.92
You know, well I
know that number 666 is,
00:56:22.93\00:56:25.85
and it's always something like
00:56:25.86\00:56:26.83
it's some super
computer or some,
00:56:26.84\00:56:29.09
you know, the number
that's on a credit card
00:56:29.10\00:56:31.08
or some, you know, mark
or microchip in your hand
00:56:31.09\00:56:34.76
or on your forehead
or something like that.
00:56:34.77\00:56:37.37
There is always this grasping
00:56:37.38\00:56:38.54
what they think it might be.
00:56:38.55\00:56:40.67
But, you know, I want
to encourage you friends,
00:56:40.68\00:56:43.23
stick to the word
because beast is defined,
00:56:43.24\00:56:47.15
mark is defined,
00:56:47.16\00:56:48.99
seal is defined,
all these elements.
00:56:49.00\00:56:52.62
The symbols within
prophecies are defined
00:56:52.63\00:56:55.17
and if you define them
00:56:55.18\00:56:56.66
within the
context of Historicism,
00:56:56.67\00:56:59.35
the prophetic
timeline that has a beginning
00:56:59.36\00:57:01.18
and that has an end,
00:57:01.19\00:57:02.41
then you will know
the elements of time
00:57:02.42\00:57:04.02
and you will see these things,
00:57:04.03\00:57:05.37
these powers, these things,
00:57:05.38\00:57:06.88
these events come into
play and nowhere they fit
00:57:06.89\00:57:10.19
and nowhere we
are today in history,
00:57:10.20\00:57:13.14
which is at the cusp
of Jesus return, amen,
00:57:13.15\00:57:17.62
which we believe is
just around the corner.
00:57:17.63\00:57:19.97
Friends get ready for
that time as Jesus said,
00:57:19.98\00:57:23.43
He tells you these things
00:57:23.44\00:57:24.41
beforehand that you may know,
00:57:24.42\00:57:25.95
study the word of
God, study prophecy because
00:57:25.96\00:57:28.24
I think in that
He has an incredible
00:57:28.25\00:57:30.40
blessing for you
and for your life.
00:57:30.41\00:57:32.20
God bless you. Have a great day.
00:57:32.21\00:57:34.66