Hello, friends. 00:00:01.98\00:00:02.95 Grab your Bible and a friend and sit back 00:00:02.96\00:00:04.35 as we explore God's word together 00:00:04.36\00:00:05.81 on this edition of House Calls. 00:00:05.82\00:00:08.06 Welcome to House Calls, 00:00:22.90\00:00:24.14 it's good to have you here with us today. 00:00:24.15\00:00:25.39 We're so glad to be in the studio 00:00:25.40\00:00:27.46 and in your living room as we explore God's word. 00:00:27.47\00:00:30.33 Opening up and allow Him to lead us during this hour. 00:00:30.34\00:00:33.59 With me in the studio is Pastor C. A. Murray. 00:00:33.60\00:00:36.91 Pastor, great to have you with us again. 00:00:36.92\00:00:38.27 Good to be with you, don't often get to share 00:00:38.28\00:00:40.87 these chairs with you. 00:00:40.88\00:00:41.85 But I always enjoy it when we have a time to do. 00:00:41.86\00:00:43.93 Yeah, we got a topic here we're gonna cover today 00:00:43.94\00:00:46.84 and some other things and questions 00:00:46.85\00:00:49.57 which we really appreciate come from you. 00:00:49.58\00:00:52.64 From email either or snail mail, 00:00:52.65\00:00:55.06 we're still accepting snail mail, 00:00:55.07\00:00:56.38 so if you wanna give a handwritten letter out, 00:00:56.39\00:00:58.06 to write to us your question please do so. 00:00:58.07\00:01:00.73 If you're sending email, you can send it to us on 00:01:00.74\00:01:03.64 housecalls@3abn.org. 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Well we've questions, 00:02:00.68\00:02:05.03 now I know several good ones that have come in. 00:02:05.04\00:02:07.45 And C.A., I think you've got a couple of them 00:02:07.46\00:02:09.86 I've got a couple lets go ahead 00:02:09.87\00:02:11.08 and dive right in and see what our viewers, 00:02:11.09\00:02:13.37 our listeners are asking today. 00:02:13.38\00:02:16.60 Already I've got a question, we always see the Holy Spirit 00:02:16.61\00:02:21.89 as a force, we never read the Holy Spirit 00:02:21.90\00:02:24.97 as having a body or making decisions or ruling, 00:02:24.98\00:02:28.14 or doing all the things Jesus and God do 00:02:28.15\00:02:34.09 in their sovereignty. 00:02:34.10\00:02:36.51 We read that the Holy Spirit executes the demands 00:02:36.52\00:02:39.54 that is put it by God, thus how can we say 00:02:39.55\00:02:43.59 the Holy Spirit is really a person and not a force, 00:02:43.60\00:02:47.50 sounds like a force to me. 00:02:47.51\00:02:50.23 And we've had this question from time to time. 00:02:50.24\00:02:53.60 And when we think about that the book that comes 00:02:53.61\00:02:58.78 to my mind first of all is John. 00:02:58.79\00:03:00.75 And a couple of things I want to run 00:03:00.76\00:03:03.20 to in the book of John, First John 16:13. 00:03:03.21\00:03:07.26 Sixteen, yeah we'll start at verse 13, 00:03:07.27\00:03:11.57 John's gospel Chapter 16 verse 13, 00:03:11.58\00:03:14.08 lets look at the language that is used. 00:03:14.09\00:03:16.47 Because this person's assertion is that 00:03:16.48\00:03:18.27 the Holy Spirit is a force and when I think of a force, 00:03:18.28\00:03:20.90 John, I'm thinking of an impersonal thing that doesn't 00:03:20.91\00:03:26.83 have personality, doesn't have will, doesn't have volition, 00:03:26.84\00:03:29.85 but more a force like wind. 00:03:29.86\00:03:31.65 Sort of an inanimate kind of a thing 00:03:31.66\00:03:33.16 that just pushes us along. 00:03:33.17\00:03:34.52 But lets look at Christ's words here in John 16:13, 00:03:34.53\00:03:36.94 however when, here is the word. 00:03:36.95\00:03:38.75 He, the Spirit of truth has come, 00:03:38.76\00:03:41.52 He will guide you into all truth; 00:03:41.53\00:03:43.63 for He will not speak of on His own authority, 00:03:43.64\00:03:47.17 but whatever He hears He will speak; 00:03:47.18\00:03:50.09 and He will tell you things to come. 00:03:50.10\00:03:52.33 Verse 14, John 16:14, He will glorify Me, 00:03:52.34\00:03:56.06 for He will tell you what is Mine and declare it to you. 00:03:56.07\00:03:59.82 So, we see here first of all, that the spirit is always 00:03:59.83\00:04:04.92 referred to as He. Not it, but He 00:04:04.93\00:04:10.65 and then secondly we see that His office, 00:04:10.66\00:04:13.82 his job here is to declare and to glory Christ. 00:04:13.83\00:04:17.50 So, the God head is working together. 00:04:17.51\00:04:19.94 It is the spirit's job to give unction, 00:04:19.95\00:04:23.24 to give impression, to give validity, 00:04:23.25\00:04:25.80 to give certainty to the words of Christ, 00:04:25.81\00:04:27.88 to recall the things of Christ, 00:04:27.89\00:04:29.74 to impress the things of Christ on the mind and heart. 00:04:29.75\00:04:32.73 So he is working with Christ in the salvation 00:04:32.74\00:04:35.77 of men and women. 00:04:35.78\00:04:37.40 Now there's something else I just noticed in this question, 00:04:37.41\00:04:41.30 the person is having a little trouble 00:04:41.31\00:04:43.23 with the spirit being God, the whole Trinitarian idea 00:04:43.24\00:04:48.54 has been banded around as you well know, since forever. 00:04:48.55\00:04:52.00 So, lets go to John 14 and verse 16, 00:04:52.01\00:04:56.19 again if you have a red letter Bible, 00:04:56.20\00:04:58.81 your Bible is a wash in red through here because 00:04:58.82\00:05:01.15 these are words of Christ, 14:16, 00:05:01.16\00:05:07.05 And I will pray the Father, 00:05:07.06\00:05:09.23 and He will send you another Helper, 00:05:09.24\00:05:11.43 that He may abide with you forever. 00:05:11.44\00:05:14.24 And of course being a student of it, 00:05:14.25\00:05:15.82 you know that the other helper is an allos helper 00:05:15.83\00:05:19.29 as opposed to a hetoros helper. 00:05:19.30\00:05:20.88 Allos being another of the same kind. 00:05:20.89\00:05:24.05 So Christ is saying I'm not gonna be here, 00:05:24.06\00:05:26.04 I'm not gonna be able to comfort you, 00:05:26.05\00:05:27.54 but I'm not gonna leave you orphans, 00:05:27.55\00:05:28.96 he says a little bit later. 00:05:28.97\00:05:30.16 I'm going to send you someone of the same kind as me, 00:05:30.17\00:05:33.22 who is going to able to be with you and give you 00:05:33.23\00:05:35.18 the kind of comfort and support that I've give you. 00:05:35.19\00:05:37.78 So, Christ is certainly alluding to the fact that this 00:05:37.79\00:05:41.20 new comforter is the same as he. 00:05:41.21\00:05:44.81 Same in propose, same in office, 00:05:44.82\00:05:47.27 certainly same in goal and function as he. 00:05:47.28\00:05:50.79 So we see this throughout the Bible, 00:05:50.80\00:05:52.57 in the beginning was the word, the word's with God 00:05:52.58\00:05:54.35 and the word was God. So this theme run throughout 00:05:54.36\00:05:58.54 the book of John that there are three equal persons, 00:05:58.55\00:06:02.72 they function together. 00:06:02.73\00:06:05.13 John 10:30, I and My Father are one, 00:06:05.14\00:06:07.73 here again we get this idea of the spirit of God 00:06:07.74\00:06:10.71 fulfilling a role after the departure of Jesus 00:06:12.91\00:06:15.12 to affirm those things that Jesus 00:06:15.13\00:06:17.16 has said and brought to us. 00:06:17.17\00:06:18.75 Yeah, if you look at Chapter four, same gospel. 00:06:18.76\00:06:22.61 You will notice here and see verses 23 and 24 00:06:24.93\00:06:29.84 speaking of God and spirit, the issue here. 00:06:29.85\00:06:32.33 And it's the same kind of language. 00:06:32.34\00:06:34.12 But the hour is coming, and now is when the true 00:06:34.13\00:06:36.44 worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; 00:06:36.45\00:06:40.01 for this Father is seeking such to worship Him. 00:06:40.02\00:06:42.51 Yes. God is what? Spirit. 00:06:42.52\00:06:45.54 So are we to say just because God is spoken 00:06:45.55\00:06:47.66 of his being a spirit that Jesus isn't a person 00:06:47.67\00:06:51.82 or God the Father isn't a person, 00:06:51.83\00:06:53.27 but they're all just spirits or forces. 00:06:53.28\00:06:55.84 See so, just arguing that because the Holy Spirit 00:06:55.85\00:07:00.68 isn't identified as having a separate identity or name, 00:07:00.69\00:07:05.88 doesn't mean that it isn't a person of the Godhead, 00:07:05.89\00:07:08.38 doesn't work. Yes. 00:07:08.39\00:07:09.49 Because the whole Godhead is spirit. 00:07:09.50\00:07:12.13 Yes, yes, very true. 00:07:12.14\00:07:13.38 I think some of these things, you know, 00:07:13.39\00:07:14.79 they are some aspects of this idea 00:07:14.80\00:07:19.50 of three co-equal persons, three in one, one in three, 00:07:19.51\00:07:22.46 that the human mind really cannot 00:07:22.47\00:07:24.44 totally wrap its mind around. 00:07:24.45\00:07:26.17 I suspect that will be one of the studies that 00:07:26.18\00:07:28.24 we will sort of entertain throughout eternity. 00:07:28.25\00:07:30.50 How does that function, how does that actually work. 00:07:30.51\00:07:33.97 Some of these things we accept by faith, 00:07:33.98\00:07:36.20 that there is a spirit that knows all 00:07:36.21\00:07:38.81 and his job is not to speak of himself, 00:07:38.82\00:07:41.55 not to edify himself, not to glory himself. 00:07:41.56\00:07:44.42 His work is to glorify Jesus, to speak about Jesus. 00:07:44.43\00:07:49.20 Which says a lot about those religions 00:07:49.21\00:07:51.71 and then those who try to make the spirit the end, 00:07:51.72\00:07:55.12 I got to give the spirit. 00:07:55.13\00:07:56.10 Well the Spirit's job really is to make you 00:07:56.11\00:07:58.42 a more effective witness, to make you walk 00:07:58.43\00:08:00.29 and do the things of the Lord. 00:08:00.30\00:08:01.52 To bring to your mind those things that Christ spoke 00:08:01.53\00:08:05.67 about when he was here, and then to enable you to do 00:08:05.68\00:08:08.43 those things so that you can be an successful Christian. 00:08:08.44\00:08:10.96 You know, there is an also a back door argument here, 00:08:10.97\00:08:13.07 there is a counter argument, if you look at 00:08:13.08\00:08:14.55 Revelation Chapter 16 and this just comes to mind. 00:08:14.56\00:08:17.83 I'll throw this out here, you know, whenever you think 00:08:17.84\00:08:20.36 about what God does, his purposes in this universe, 00:08:20.37\00:08:24.57 his purposes with this world are creation 00:08:24.58\00:08:26.73 and everything he does with his truth and aspects of it. 00:08:26.74\00:08:30.69 When he moves in a certain way, 00:08:30.70\00:08:32.83 the devil always seems to try to counterfeit. 00:08:32.84\00:08:35.15 Yes. What he does. 00:08:35.16\00:08:36.63 So where there is a move by God, 00:08:36.64\00:08:38.14 there is a counterfeit to Satan's action. 00:08:38.15\00:08:41.30 And we find here in Revelation 16 00:08:41.31\00:08:45.07 in regard to spiritual warfare, 00:08:45.08\00:08:47.85 in verse 13 it says, I saw three unclean spirits 00:08:47.86\00:08:51.24 like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, 00:08:51.25\00:08:54.22 out of the mouth of the beast, 00:08:54.23\00:08:55.23 and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 00:08:55.24\00:08:58.62 For they are spirits of demons, 00:08:58.63\00:09:01.13 now notice here, all three are spirits of what? 00:09:01.14\00:09:04.83 Demons. Demons, 00:09:04.84\00:09:06.07 their spiritual warfare, it's a spiritualism approach 00:09:06.08\00:09:09.85 that Satan is using, but he has two cohorts with him. 00:09:09.86\00:09:14.06 He is mimicking the trinity, 00:09:14.07\00:09:16.61 he is developing a false trinity. Yes. 00:09:16.62\00:09:18.39 So in fact he by his counterfeit 00:09:18.40\00:09:21.07 can also give credence to the fact that God 00:09:21.08\00:09:23.94 himself is three in one and God is spirit in all three, 00:09:23.95\00:09:28.01 just as He uses these three together to work spiritualism. 00:09:28.02\00:09:33.80 See so, in a way even Satan is kind of affirming here 00:09:33.81\00:09:37.07 by his counterfeit that he is attacking three not two. 00:09:37.08\00:09:39.94 Yeah, the sincerest form of flattery is imitation. 00:09:39.95\00:09:44.87 And so he is imitating God and that's a very point, John, 00:09:44.88\00:09:48.37 and sort of a modern day manifestation of an age, 00:09:48.38\00:09:52.00 old problem. An age old warfare 00:09:52.01\00:09:54.37 that we see played out in these last days, 00:09:54.38\00:09:56.25 really, really good. 00:09:56.26\00:09:57.31 So we're talking about an entity that has volition, 00:09:57.32\00:10:01.33 that is real, that thinks, that moves, 00:10:01.34\00:10:04.83 that is God and not just a force, 00:10:04.84\00:10:07.07 we don't want to reduce the Holy Spirit 00:10:07.08\00:10:09.95 to just a force like a wind pushing your hand, 00:10:09.96\00:10:12.84 pushing you in your back, it leads from within, 00:10:12.85\00:10:15.33 it comes in, inhabits, possesses and controls 00:10:15.34\00:10:18.41 and constrains you from within, yeah. 00:10:18.42\00:10:20.83 Very good. I have a question here, 00:10:20.84\00:10:23.28 it's coming from Mezilla and she is asking, lets see here. 00:10:23.29\00:10:30.78 Dear pastors, greetings in Jesus name. 00:10:30.79\00:10:33.23 For some time now, this issue has been bothering me. 00:10:33.24\00:10:36.70 In our church there is a very genuine, 00:10:36.71\00:10:40.37 and generous and well liked member, 00:10:40.38\00:10:43.23 who saw a statue of a lion and a lamb in its arms. 00:10:43.24\00:10:47.89 And she brought it into the church and put in the foyer. 00:10:47.90\00:10:50.73 And sometimes there is a seminar 00:10:50.74\00:10:52.93 and it's brought back of into sanctuary, 00:10:52.94\00:10:54.36 to kind to show the lion and the lamb. 00:10:54.37\00:10:56.63 Of course that picture we find in the scriptures as well. 00:10:56.64\00:11:00.23 Most of the members don't see anything wrong with this, 00:11:00.24\00:11:02.81 but I just want to see is there a problem with this, 00:11:02.82\00:11:05.79 with regard to images that shouldn't be worshiped. 00:11:05.80\00:11:09.34 And so anyway, that's the essence of the question. 00:11:09.35\00:11:12.71 First of all, I like to read 00:11:12.72\00:11:14.26 Exodus chapter 20 verses 3 through 6, 00:11:14.27\00:11:17.02 because that is the command per say, 00:11:17.03\00:11:20.84 the second commandment that talks about 00:11:20.85\00:11:24.24 not making graven images. 00:11:24.25\00:11:26.99 It says here in verse 4, 00:11:27.00\00:11:30.13 You shall not make for yourself a carved image, 00:11:30.14\00:11:33.36 and I'm reading from the New King James Version. 00:11:33.37\00:11:35.56 Any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, 00:11:35.57\00:11:39.16 or that is in the earth beneath, 00:11:39.17\00:11:40.87 or that is in the water under the earth; 00:11:40.88\00:11:43.01 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. 00:11:43.02\00:11:45.83 For I, the Lord your God am a jealous God, 00:11:45.84\00:11:48.54 visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children 00:11:48.55\00:11:51.50 to the third and fourth generations of those 00:11:51.51\00:11:53.77 who hate Me, but showing mercy 00:11:53.78\00:11:55.29 to thousands to those who love Me 00:11:55.30\00:11:57.43 and keep My commandments. 00:11:57.44\00:11:59.62 So you have here within the second commandment, 00:11:59.63\00:12:03.65 this command by God says, don't make any graven image, 00:12:03.66\00:12:07.95 don't bow down to it. 00:12:07.96\00:12:09.04 Because I'm a jealous God, 00:12:09.05\00:12:10.77 I don't want you worshiping other Gods, 00:12:10.78\00:12:12.33 I'm the only God that should be worshiped. 00:12:12.34\00:12:13.82 Yes. Okay, now there are two aspects to this, 00:12:13.83\00:12:16.64 it's not just the creating of the graven image 00:12:16.65\00:12:19.25 or the creating of the image, it's the bowing down to it. 00:12:19.26\00:12:22.19 God isn't as concerned I think... 00:12:22.20\00:12:25.59 or may be the point of the concern is that, 00:12:25.60\00:12:28.12 that we not worship these images. Yes. 00:12:28.13\00:12:30.70 Not that they're not be a likeness or something 00:12:30.71\00:12:32.82 that looks like Jesus. 00:12:32.83\00:12:35.23 We see in studios and pictures, Christ, 00:12:35.24\00:12:38.66 you know, holding out his hands 00:12:38.67\00:12:39.88 or touching a life or something there, 00:12:39.89\00:12:41.85 and we don't consider that a graven image 00:12:41.86\00:12:44.97 or something that shouldn't, that is apposed 00:12:44.98\00:12:47.56 to the second commandment, because people 00:12:47.57\00:12:48.72 aren't bowing down to worship it. 00:12:48.73\00:12:50.76 And I think probably one of the examples of this, 00:12:50.77\00:12:52.89 it's always good to provide an example from scripture. 00:12:52.90\00:12:54.84 But one example is, the serpent that God asked Moses 00:12:54.85\00:12:58.20 to put in the wilderness, to put upon a stake, 00:12:58.21\00:13:02.17 that when anyone looked at it, they would live. 00:13:02.18\00:13:04.43 They were being bitten by serpents, 00:13:04.44\00:13:05.79 they were dying in droves. 00:13:05.80\00:13:07.67 Any he said, if you look upon the serpent 00:13:07.68\00:13:09.89 on this stake, yeah, then you will live. 00:13:09.90\00:13:13.81 And we find that God himself instructed to make 00:13:13.82\00:13:16.78 this bronze serpent. 00:13:16.79\00:13:18.92 So the image wasn't a problem for God, yeah, 00:13:18.93\00:13:21.96 the question was what were the people 00:13:21.97\00:13:23.61 doing with that image. 00:13:23.62\00:13:25.79 Now turn with me to Second Kings 18 verse 4, 00:13:25.80\00:13:30.86 this is kind of interesting, Second Kings 18 verse 4, 00:13:30.87\00:13:37.48 years later after the bronze serpent 00:13:37.49\00:13:41.41 experience in the wilderness. 00:13:41.42\00:13:44.81 We find this statement here and it's during Hezekiah, 00:13:44.82\00:13:47.26 King Hezekiah's days, it says in verse 4 of Second Kings 18, 00:13:47.27\00:13:51.82 that He removed the high places 00:13:51.83\00:13:53.70 and broke the sacred pillars, cut down the wooden image 00:13:53.71\00:13:57.18 and broke in pieces the bronze serpent that Moses had made; 00:13:57.19\00:14:01.41 for until those days the children of Israel 00:14:01.42\00:14:03.76 burned incense to it and called it Nehushtan. 00:14:03.77\00:14:07.28 So what they had begun to do with the serpent 00:14:07.29\00:14:09.69 was instead of looking and living because of what God 00:14:09.70\00:14:13.18 was going to do for them, of course, 00:14:13.19\00:14:15.35 they point it to Jesus on the cross right, 00:14:15.36\00:14:17.39 instead of understanding that, they started to worship it 00:14:17.40\00:14:20.01 as a some special power that it had. 00:14:20.02\00:14:22.74 Right, some sort of talisman. 00:14:22.75\00:14:24.08 And so he had to then take it and break it down, 00:14:24.09\00:14:27.00 because it became a image that was worshiped. 00:14:27.01\00:14:29.72 And I think this is kind of the central key here too, 00:14:29.73\00:14:31.92 is that, you know, what are we doing 00:14:31.93\00:14:33.61 with an image that comes in. 00:14:33.62\00:14:35.44 Which is a danger, John, 00:14:35.45\00:14:36.51 of always that we have with iconography. 00:14:36.52\00:14:40.54 You know, the idea that something 00:14:40.55\00:14:42.48 that is a representation of heaven becomes 00:14:42.49\00:14:44.75 the symbol of heaven, and you begin to pray to that, 00:14:44.76\00:14:47.08 as opposed to letting that be a representation 00:14:47.09\00:14:49.42 of something you cannot see. 00:14:49.43\00:14:50.62 And that's always a danger you have, 00:14:50.63\00:14:52.81 when you have images and I think you make a good point, 00:14:52.82\00:14:56.53 it's not the image per say, it's what it's being used for. 00:14:56.54\00:15:01.12 And you have this throughout the Bible. 00:15:01.13\00:15:03.08 You have something that is prohibited, 00:15:03.09\00:15:06.77 but you got to look at why, why is it being brought here, 00:15:06.78\00:15:09.33 because of our predilection, our nature that wants to turn 00:15:09.34\00:15:14.00 something that should be just a symbol 00:15:14.01\00:15:16.08 into the actual thing itself. 00:15:16.09\00:15:17.65 And we have that throughout the, the word of God. 00:15:17.66\00:15:19.79 Yeah, and there is everything that we trust 00:15:19.80\00:15:22.95 that we hold on to, it is should be as Christians, 00:15:22.96\00:15:27.02 should be ascribed to God. 00:15:27.03\00:15:28.17 God directly working in us, through us. 00:15:28.18\00:15:31.34 And whenever we ascribe to an image 00:15:31.35\00:15:33.34 as having some power that's supposed to come from God, 00:15:33.35\00:15:36.69 yes, yes. Then there becomes 00:15:36.70\00:15:38.30 a problem and it becomes a God in and of itself. 00:15:38.31\00:15:41.18 And this is the essence of idol worship, yes. 00:15:41.19\00:15:44.21 And that is making something or allowing something 00:15:44.22\00:15:47.35 to have the adoration or have our love 00:15:47.36\00:15:51.09 and consideration that rises to the level of being 00:15:51.10\00:15:54.40 either with God or even above God. 00:15:54.41\00:15:57.13 And in that respect to, you know, 00:15:57.14\00:15:58.45 just talking about images, and I know this isn't exactly 00:15:58.46\00:16:02.23 what this writer is saying. 00:16:02.24\00:16:03.33 But when we get so caught up in our houses, 00:16:03.34\00:16:06.47 in our cars and other things like that. 00:16:06.48\00:16:08.22 Those can become idols, because our affections, 00:16:08.23\00:16:11.42 yes for those things become higher 00:16:11.43\00:16:14.74 than our affection for God, and it draws our heart away, 00:16:14.75\00:16:17.43 yes. And so, that of course, 00:16:17.44\00:16:20.08 I mention that because that's where 00:16:20.09\00:16:21.49 secularism has gone today. 00:16:21.50\00:16:22.79 That's what our society is like today, 00:16:22.80\00:16:24.32 at least in America, yes. 00:16:24.33\00:16:26.23 But that's not the intent I believe to have the command, 00:16:26.24\00:16:31.00 the second command governing issues such as this, 00:16:31.01\00:16:34.05 you know, a lion and the lamb. 00:16:34.06\00:16:35.03 Now I would really be concerned if they were writing 00:16:35.04\00:16:37.38 and saying, people were coming and touching it, 00:16:37.39\00:16:40.01 or scribing some kind of power to it. 00:16:40.02\00:16:42.16 Then I'd say, problem, but I don't know that 00:16:42.17\00:16:46.09 and I don't think that's probably 00:16:46.10\00:16:48.00 what is being said here. 00:16:48.01\00:16:48.98 So I don't really have a problem 00:16:48.99\00:16:50.37 with what you are sharing here with me 00:16:50.38\00:16:53.04 with this never coming in. 00:16:53.05\00:16:54.63 Also remember, we've got to be very careful 00:16:54.64\00:16:56.42 about not judging someone's intentions. 00:16:56.43\00:16:59.20 Yes, you know, their motives. 00:16:59.21\00:17:00.50 So talk with him, let him know that 00:17:00.51\00:17:02.10 maybe this could be a concern to some. 00:17:02.11\00:17:03.90 But, you know, if there is still a real desire 00:17:03.91\00:17:06.09 to have that and you don't see any problem with that, 00:17:06.10\00:17:08.04 I really don't have anything to say really against it, so. 00:17:08.05\00:17:12.17 All right, you have another question there for us? 00:17:12.18\00:17:13.66 How can you tell, this is from Kathryn, 00:17:15.70\00:17:18.08 how can you tell when something or someone is God 00:17:18.09\00:17:21.96 sent or just seems right. 00:17:21.97\00:17:27.21 And they want us to email back. 00:17:27.22\00:17:30.42 A couple of things that pop up in my mind. 00:17:30.43\00:17:32.65 First of all, I think, John, 00:17:35.91\00:17:38.01 we ought to pray about everything. 00:17:38.02\00:17:40.83 When, we have a course of action in our mind. 00:17:40.84\00:17:45.32 For of all we need to ask God, Ephesians chapter 2 verse 10 00:17:45.33\00:17:49.84 comes to mind, that says, we are created, 00:17:49.85\00:17:52.39 we're his workmanship created for good works. 00:17:52.40\00:17:55.83 I think one of things we ought to look at, 00:17:55.84\00:17:57.79 but if it's a course of action, 00:17:57.80\00:17:59.97 is the goal selfish? 00:17:59.98\00:18:03.07 Does it make me a better person? 00:18:04.27\00:18:06.57 Will it make me a better tool in the hand of God? 00:18:06.58\00:18:09.62 Can I dedicate it to the Lord, 00:18:09.63\00:18:12.23 can I pray about this activity, 00:18:12.24\00:18:14.74 if Christ were with me could I engage in this activity. 00:18:14.75\00:18:18.99 Romans, oh goodness 14:23 that which is not a faith is sin. 00:18:19.00\00:18:25.34 So all of our actions ought to be faith based, 00:18:25.35\00:18:29.11 prayer based. Even you know who you date? 00:18:29.12\00:18:34.73 Who you marry? What kind of car you buy? 00:18:34.74\00:18:37.25 What you do with your money? What you do with leisure time? 00:18:37.26\00:18:40.70 Where do you go for entertainment? 00:18:40.71\00:18:41.93 That kinds of things you involve yourself 00:18:41.94\00:18:43.53 in for entertainment. 00:18:43.54\00:18:45.57 Those ought to be filtered through the lens, 00:18:45.58\00:18:48.90 using mixed metaphors here. 00:18:48.91\00:18:51.43 Filter through the lens of the Holy Spirit. 00:18:51.44\00:18:54.76 Ask God, can you bless this, can you bless this activity? 00:18:54.77\00:18:59.83 Will it make me a better person, 00:18:59.84\00:19:01.31 will engaging in this activity take me away from God. 00:19:01.32\00:19:04.00 You could do some good things to excess. 00:19:04.01\00:19:07.77 You can spend too much time on your computer now. 00:19:07.78\00:19:09.72 We got a computer sitting here. 00:19:09.73\00:19:11.32 This is not a bad thing, right. 00:19:11.33\00:19:12.72 But, if you spent all day on this thing doing video games 00:19:12.73\00:19:15.28 and listening to music or downloading things, 00:19:15.29\00:19:17.64 it could become a determent to your spiritual growth. 00:19:17.65\00:19:20.39 So what other things you need to ask 00:19:20.40\00:19:22.11 is will this make me a better Christian? 00:19:22.12\00:19:24.18 Will this make me a sharper tool in the hand of God, 00:19:24.19\00:19:26.78 will this fulfill the statement 00:19:26.79\00:19:29.06 of God in Ephesians that I'm a workman for God, 00:19:29.07\00:19:33.71 but I'm also the workmanship of God. 00:19:33.72\00:19:36.46 And my life ought to give glory to God 00:19:36.47\00:19:39.05 and if you can answer those questions in the affirmative, 00:19:39.06\00:19:41.80 then you can get a pretty good idea 00:19:41.81\00:19:43.60 that this thing is from the Lord, 00:19:43.61\00:19:44.93 but if anything takes you away from God, 00:19:44.94\00:19:46.92 pulls you from God, makes you secretive, 00:19:46.93\00:19:49.59 if you don't feel Christ can be with you 00:19:49.60\00:19:51.36 then you really ought to take a look it, 00:19:51.37\00:19:53.15 because it's probably something 00:19:53.16\00:19:54.37 that you ought not involve yourself in. 00:19:54.38\00:19:56.38 Yeah, and I think probably an association with prayer, 00:19:56.39\00:20:00.06 you probably add to that Bible study. 00:20:00.07\00:20:02.16 Oh yes, very much so. Because anything you feel 00:20:02.17\00:20:04.28 impressed by from the Lord should be gauged at least 00:20:04.29\00:20:08.20 or wade in light of scripture. 00:20:08.21\00:20:10.40 You know, is what I feel I'm in being impressed with, 00:20:10.41\00:20:13.08 does it harmonize with God's word. 00:20:13.09\00:20:15.68 You know, would God, does God's word support 00:20:15.69\00:20:18.38 what I'm receiving, 'cause I, you know... Pastor, 00:20:18.39\00:20:21.39 you and I've been, you've been pastoring 00:20:21.40\00:20:24.37 a lot longer than I have, but I'm sure 00:20:24.38\00:20:25.84 you've heard numerous times as you engage in 00:20:25.85\00:20:27.79 Bible study with people. 00:20:27.80\00:20:29.05 And, for the first time they're hearing 00:20:29.06\00:20:31.43 some new things, some who resist might 00:20:31.44\00:20:34.21 give you the answer. 00:20:34.22\00:20:37.39 Well I just don't feel it, I don't feel like God 00:20:37.40\00:20:41.43 is convicting me of that at this point. 00:20:41.44\00:20:44.30 And of course you're reading scripture, 00:20:44.31\00:20:45.86 you're going through the text, you're showing them 00:20:45.87\00:20:47.53 what God's word says and yet the feeling just isn't there, 00:20:47.54\00:20:50.83 I don't feel that burning that this is the truth. 00:20:50.84\00:20:53.57 And so sometimes in many respects, 00:20:53.58\00:20:57.27 it's not just what are we being impressed with, 00:20:57.28\00:20:59.55 but sometimes are we resisting what God's impressing us with. 00:20:59.56\00:21:03.56 And so sometimes when we go to scripture all the time, 00:21:03.57\00:21:06.42 I would ask, we go to scripture 00:21:06.43\00:21:07.94 and find out and what I, am I hearing something 00:21:07.95\00:21:11.42 from God that I'm resisting initially, 00:21:11.43\00:21:14.32 that I think didn't belong to Him, 00:21:14.33\00:21:16.07 does it belong Him. 00:21:16.08\00:21:17.28 Then also, there is this always 00:21:17.29\00:21:19.48 should be a communication between us and the Lord 00:21:19.49\00:21:22.07 with the word open. 00:21:22.08\00:21:24.06 And I think too many Christians today are listening 00:21:24.07\00:21:27.08 to their pastors or teachers or, 00:21:27.09\00:21:30.53 you know, school instructors or whenever it be, 00:21:30.54\00:21:33.05 and they're just kind of going with it. 00:21:33.06\00:21:34.75 Yeah. Because it fits their lifestyle, it feels okay, 00:21:34.76\00:21:38.28 but feeling got to be careful with feeling. 00:21:38.29\00:21:40.06 Feeling doesn't mean it's necessarily right or wrong, 00:21:40.07\00:21:42.86 feelings are neutral in many respects. 00:21:42.87\00:21:44.79 It's what does the word say, with regard to truth. 00:21:44.80\00:21:47.24 Yeah, once you filter it through the word, 00:21:47.25\00:21:51.38 you can be, if you're honest with yourself, 00:21:51.39\00:21:53.46 take it to the word of God and if the word of God 00:21:53.47\00:21:56.11 crosses your path of it. 00:21:56.12\00:21:57.97 If it cuts across where you want to go 00:21:57.98\00:22:00.00 then you've got follow the word, you know. 00:22:00.01\00:22:02.01 Quickly a text that we use very often, 00:22:03.35\00:22:05.04 in Romans chapter 12, verse 1 and 2. 00:22:05.05\00:22:07.06 I beseech you therefore brethren, 00:22:07.07\00:22:08.26 by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies 00:22:08.27\00:22:09.93 a living sacrifice, holy acceptable to God, 00:22:09.94\00:22:12.21 which is your reasonable service. 00:22:12.22\00:22:14.16 And do not be conformed to this world, 00:22:14.17\00:22:16.38 but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, 00:22:16.39\00:22:18.75 and that you may do that which is the perfect will of God. 00:22:18.76\00:22:21.94 One of the things you have to ask yourself 00:22:21.95\00:22:23.35 is does this activity, does what I'm proposing to do, 00:22:23.36\00:22:29.28 will it transform me, will it bring me closer to God 00:22:29.29\00:22:32.75 or does it conform me to the word. 00:22:32.76\00:22:36.60 You follow what I'm going through. Yeah. 00:22:36.61\00:22:38.04 Does it make me a better Christian, 00:22:38.05\00:22:39.62 a better servant, a better person to serve the Lord, 00:22:39.63\00:22:43.37 or does it sort of push me back 00:22:43.38\00:22:45.09 into the mold of the world. 00:22:45.10\00:22:46.49 And you've got to really be honest with yourself, 00:22:46.50\00:22:48.79 be very, very honest with yourself 00:22:48.80\00:22:51.09 and if the word cuts across what you want to do, 00:22:51.10\00:22:54.52 then you've got to stick with the word, 00:22:54.53\00:22:55.77 because your safety is in following the word of God. 00:22:55.78\00:22:57.99 That's right, I've said a couple times, 00:22:58.00\00:23:00.97 on judgment day, yes, you stand before Christ. 00:23:00.98\00:23:05.30 You know, and this isn't all theologically correct, 00:23:05.31\00:23:07.10 I'm giving you kind of a parable here, 00:23:07.11\00:23:08.27 but on judgment day we're gonna stand before Christ 00:23:08.28\00:23:10.91 and if we're on the wrong side, 00:23:10.92\00:23:13.45 we're among the devils, will the answer, 00:23:13.46\00:23:17.07 well my pastor said, yes, or well I thought, 00:23:17.08\00:23:21.06 but it didn't feel. 00:23:21.07\00:23:22.26 I mean, will that suffice or let's say suppose you 00:23:22.27\00:23:26.57 are on the wrong side, what better argument 00:23:26.58\00:23:28.51 would there be, but I read your word 00:23:28.52\00:23:32.03 and I followed it the best I could. 00:23:32.04\00:23:34.68 Now we know that one side is chosen, 00:23:34.69\00:23:36.10 obviously there's no switching at sides, 00:23:36.11\00:23:37.31 but I want to be able to give the answer, 00:23:37.32\00:23:38.90 regardless that I read your word, 00:23:38.91\00:23:41.10 and I followed what it said, even though I maybe wrong 00:23:41.11\00:23:44.01 in some aspects. I'm committed, 00:23:44.02\00:23:46.12 I'm a follower of Christ, I'm a follower of your word 00:23:46.13\00:23:48.50 and that is the answer we are in our lives need 00:23:48.51\00:23:51.19 to be giving everything we believe. 00:23:51.20\00:23:52.94 Yeah, yeah, I read it, I saw it in the word 00:23:52.95\00:23:55.11 and I try to line myself up with the word as it says, 00:23:55.12\00:23:58.01 well my grandmother did that, and my grandfather did that, 00:23:58.02\00:24:01.22 I figured it was okay, right, I never checked the word. 00:24:01.23\00:24:03.38 But if you check the word, 00:24:03.39\00:24:04.74 then at least, you know, you're on safe ground. 00:24:04.75\00:24:06.62 I've, recently two persons said, 00:24:06.63\00:24:09.04 oh, you know, I see these trues, 00:24:10.82\00:24:13.68 but you know what, I've been a Lutheran 00:24:13.69\00:24:16.32 or Pentecostal or Presbyterian or, 00:24:16.33\00:24:18.83 you know, Baptist, whatever you may. 00:24:18.84\00:24:20.34 All my life, my family's always been that, 00:24:20.35\00:24:22.20 I will always be that, yeah, and I'm thinking, you know, 00:24:22.21\00:24:25.97 I'm a Seventh-day Adventist pastor, 00:24:25.98\00:24:28.05 but I will not say that I've always been a 00:24:28.06\00:24:31.17 Seventh-day Adventist so then I will be 00:24:31.18\00:24:33.30 a Seventh-day Adventist. I cant say that, 00:24:33.31\00:24:35.13 even in my own faith, I've got say I'm gonna follow 00:24:35.14\00:24:37.12 the word. God's word led me to 00:24:37.13\00:24:39.76 affirm my faith in the Seventh-day Adventist church, 00:24:39.77\00:24:42.59 that God is leading this church and its truth. 00:24:42.60\00:24:45.61 But, I still must follow the word, 00:24:45.62\00:24:47.71 I can't just because of the name, 00:24:47.72\00:24:49.23 because of what I was raised, follow this or that. 00:24:49.24\00:24:52.40 You know, this specific faith or doctrine, 00:24:52.41\00:24:55.28 I've got to follow the word. 00:24:55.29\00:24:56.37 So, I just wanted to throw that out there, 00:24:56.38\00:24:57.77 because so many times today we're finding out there and, 00:24:57.78\00:25:00.30 you maybe seeing this among your friends 00:25:00.31\00:25:02.38 or those that you study with or when you open the word. 00:25:02.39\00:25:05.63 That there is this affinity to what they already know, 00:25:05.64\00:25:08.53 what they're already comfortable with. 00:25:08.54\00:25:09.99 Where we need to be elevating the word 00:25:10.00\00:25:12.53 and following word of God and that's our own safeguard 00:25:12.54\00:25:15.01 for these last days, I believe it's very, very important. 00:25:15.02\00:25:17.47 You know, John, if I can to put something in 00:25:17.48\00:25:18.74 because I was talking with someone just yesterday, 00:25:18.75\00:25:20.80 she is a mother, her grown son 00:25:20.81\00:25:23.52 is now not following the Lord, he is out of the church. 00:25:23.53\00:25:26.74 He evidently committed an act many years ago 00:25:26.75\00:25:30.58 and she handled it, her response was unchristian. 00:25:30.59\00:25:33.93 She may have just blown it out of proportion, 00:25:33.94\00:25:36.70 it was a particular affront to her and she handled it badly. 00:25:36.71\00:25:39.91 He chose that as reason and rational to leave the church. 00:25:39.92\00:25:43.41 And now many years later 00:25:43.42\00:25:45.06 she has apologized to him profusely, 00:25:45.07\00:25:47.17 she said, I'm really, really sorry and he is saying, 00:25:47.18\00:25:50.45 well, I can't get over, I can't get by it. 00:25:50.46\00:25:53.27 It's just tough for you and she is trying to say, 00:25:53.28\00:25:55.99 no it's tough for you, because you've left Jesus 00:25:56.00\00:25:58.81 and you've let this one act turn you against the Lord. 00:25:58.82\00:26:04.55 And I was saying to her yesterday, 00:26:04.56\00:26:05.88 see come judgment day, using that same scenario, 00:26:05.89\00:26:08.38 he cannot say well back 30 years ago, 00:26:08.39\00:26:11.12 my mom did this, and so I turned my back on you Jesus, 00:26:11.13\00:26:14.70 because of something she did. 00:26:14.71\00:26:16.62 You know, so we got to follow the Lord for our self 00:26:16.63\00:26:19.43 and we can't let and we can't put anyone 00:26:19.44\00:26:21.60 in the place of God. 00:26:21.61\00:26:23.60 I shouldn't turn my back on Jesus, 00:26:23.61\00:26:25.72 because John Stanton said something mean to me. 00:26:25.73\00:26:28.98 You know, that's not gonna fly when Christ comes. 00:26:28.99\00:26:32.78 Well, John says, I'm mean to you, 00:26:32.79\00:26:33.98 so I give up on you Christ, because of John Stanton, yeah. 00:26:33.99\00:26:36.41 Or I give up on you Christ because 00:26:36.42\00:26:37.79 my mom did something 40 years ago. 00:26:37.80\00:26:39.86 We've got to check our lives everyday by the word 00:26:39.87\00:26:44.00 and make sure that we're traveling in the right path. 00:26:44.01\00:26:45.97 Yeah. Yeah and so many people are hurt today in the church, 00:26:45.98\00:26:48.64 we recognize that, we know maybe 00:26:48.65\00:26:50.63 some of you have been hurt by members of the church, 00:26:50.64\00:26:52.60 but know that God doesn't want you to turn your back 00:26:52.61\00:26:54.99 on Him because of what someone else does. 00:26:55.00\00:26:56.87 Precisely. He wants you to maintain that, 00:26:56.88\00:26:58.84 you know, to turn to Him, 00:26:58.85\00:27:00.77 come back to his church, find your church family 00:27:00.78\00:27:04.02 who will love and support you in the right way, 00:27:04.03\00:27:05.85 even though maybe someone else has hurt you. 00:27:05.86\00:27:08.15 That's God's will for your life. 00:27:08.16\00:27:10.13 Just a quick question here, 00:27:10.14\00:27:11.52 I think it's gonna be fairly quick. 00:27:11.53\00:27:13.13 In the Bible Solomon is a wise man, 00:27:14.62\00:27:16.79 but in this age my wisdom is greater than his own, 00:27:16.80\00:27:19.53 do you think that's possible? 00:27:19.54\00:27:22.21 Now I know what they're saying, 00:27:22.22\00:27:23.31 is that, you know, in essence, for Solomon's day, 00:27:23.32\00:27:29.42 wisdom, you know, had a context of time. 00:27:29.43\00:27:32.56 You know, I mean, they didn't have jets that they flew, 00:27:32.57\00:27:34.96 you know, they didn't have all the things we have today 00:27:34.97\00:27:37.41 in the information, in the industrial, in this age, yeah. 00:27:37.42\00:27:42.79 And I think in many respects what this person is talking 00:27:42.80\00:27:46.49 about is knowledge. Thank you, yeah. 00:27:46.50\00:27:48.49 Not wisdom. Precisely, yeah. 00:27:48.50\00:27:50.52 So, you know, when you look, 00:27:50.53\00:27:52.80 in fact if you look at scripture, 00:27:52.81\00:27:54.76 there is a verse in Daniel 12 verse 4 00:27:54.77\00:27:58.73 that talks about knowledge will increase in the last days 00:27:58.74\00:28:03.27 and so it shouldn't surprise us as we talk about this being 00:28:03.28\00:28:06.31 the last days that knowledge is increasing today. 00:28:06.32\00:28:09.34 Knowledge about just about everything. 00:28:09.35\00:28:11.90 The things we see, the things we have today, 00:28:11.91\00:28:13.88 the inventions we possess that make our lives 00:28:13.89\00:28:15.72 more comfortable that's the result C.A, 00:28:15.73\00:28:18.09 of knowledge increasing. 00:28:18.10\00:28:20.25 But it doesn't mean that we are wiser. 00:28:20.26\00:28:23.25 In fact knowledge can be an exact opposite of wisdom, 00:28:23.26\00:28:26.43 you could actually put them at polar opposites 00:28:26.44\00:28:28.55 in some respect. Because today, 00:28:28.56\00:28:31.26 science is moving away from God. 00:28:31.27\00:28:34.52 And the Bible says that wisdom comes from God. 00:28:34.53\00:28:38.21 So if you put, if you had a triangle 00:28:38.22\00:28:39.72 and you started off that was reverse, 00:28:39.73\00:28:41.15 the triangle was upside down and you were at the bottom 00:28:41.16\00:28:44.60 and the knowledge on one side and wisdom at the other side. 00:28:44.61\00:28:47.32 You can say that in many respects when you go up, 00:28:47.33\00:28:49.33 these are getting further apart. 00:28:49.34\00:28:50.69 Yes, yes, yes, yes. 00:28:50.70\00:28:52.59 And, you know, was it James 1:5, 00:28:52.60\00:28:56.72 If anyone lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, 00:28:56.73\00:28:59.04 who gives liberally to anybody who asks. 00:28:59.05\00:29:00.91 And so from God comes wisdom, but if we exclude God 00:29:00.92\00:29:07.10 from that equation, we don't become wiser, 00:29:07.11\00:29:09.66 we become more foolish. Precisely. 00:29:09.67\00:29:11.21 But we can be knowledgeable, yes, 00:29:11.22\00:29:13.15 because of the blessings we have of this day. 00:29:13.16\00:29:15.53 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. 00:29:16.57\00:29:19.92 And the fool that said in his heart, 00:29:19.93\00:29:21.44 there is no God. 00:29:21.45\00:29:22.79 And if you just oppose the two, 00:29:22.80\00:29:25.01 we have more knowledge, but you have more people 00:29:25.02\00:29:27.19 who don't believe in God than ever today, 00:29:27.20\00:29:29.49 so how wise are we? 00:29:29.50\00:29:32.92 The evidences of the Lord are all around 00:29:32.93\00:29:35.39 and yet there are those who choose to the negate 00:29:35.40\00:29:38.33 those evidences and say, God does not exist. 00:29:38.34\00:29:41.12 So, we have more knowledge than ever before, 00:29:41.13\00:29:43.41 but I don't know if we're wiser than we've ever been. 00:29:43.42\00:29:45.45 No, the word wisdom comes up in Daniel 12, yeah. 00:29:45.46\00:29:49.44 You know, that knowledge shall increase, 00:29:49.45\00:29:51.56 we find that in verse 4 of Daniel 12, 00:29:51.57\00:29:54.98 but look at verse 10, verse 10 says, 00:29:54.99\00:29:58.27 Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, 00:29:58.28\00:30:02.39 but the wicked shall do wickedly; 00:30:02.40\00:30:05.43 and none of the wicked shall do what? 00:30:05.44\00:30:07.56 Understand, Understand, 00:30:07.57\00:30:08.74 yeah, but the wise shall understand. 00:30:08.75\00:30:10.94 Shall understand, yeah. 00:30:10.95\00:30:11.92 So, the wicked who claim knowledge and inspiration 00:30:11.93\00:30:15.72 and incredible things through science that they come to know 00:30:15.73\00:30:19.23 still aren't wise because they don't put their trust in God 00:30:19.24\00:30:23.34 who is the source of wisdom. 00:30:23.35\00:30:25.52 So, anyway I would say that it is very possible 00:30:25.53\00:30:29.37 that you have more knowledge in certain aspects 00:30:29.38\00:30:31.48 then Solomon. But Solomon got his wisdom 00:30:31.49\00:30:33.75 from God and if you ask of God for wisdom 00:30:33.76\00:30:36.08 then you will receive some of what 00:30:36.09\00:30:37.46 Solomon also received, so. 00:30:37.47\00:30:39.05 You can have this mass John of knowledge, 00:30:39.06\00:30:42.05 but I think of wisdom asv 00:30:42.06\00:30:43.33 the correct application of knowledge. Application. 00:30:43.34\00:30:46.76 You have this a mass of facts, but when and where to apply 00:30:46.77\00:30:51.13 a particular fact to a particular case, 00:30:51.14\00:30:53.29 that's true wisdom. 00:30:53.30\00:30:54.65 And they are a lot of very wise people 00:30:54.66\00:30:56.45 who never went to college, don't have Ph.D. 00:30:56.46\00:30:58.42 They are very, very, very wise 00:30:58.43\00:31:01.00 and we see that even in our day. 00:31:01.01\00:31:02.92 Amen, well that's our questions for today 00:31:02.93\00:31:05.34 and we appreciate you sending those in. 00:31:05.35\00:31:07.16 Again if you like to email questions, 00:31:07.17\00:31:08.94 you can email them to housecalls@3abn.org 00:31:08.95\00:31:12.47 that's housecalls@3abn.org. 00:31:12.48\00:31:16.58 And we thank you for sending those in once again. 00:31:16.59\00:31:19.20 Our topic today, is just a one program topic 00:31:19.21\00:31:24.51 and we're gonna move through these things fairly quickly. 00:31:24.52\00:31:26.34 But the study today is the Biblical test of a prophet. 00:31:26.35\00:31:31.16 You know, C.A., as we look around this world 00:31:31.17\00:31:34.17 and we've been seeing over, you know, many decades 00:31:34.18\00:31:36.62 and of course Jesus predicted this, 00:31:36.63\00:31:38.21 Matthew 24, that many false prophets or false Christs, 00:31:38.22\00:31:42.90 he also uses here, will arise to deceive many. 00:31:42.91\00:31:46.42 Many who claim to be inspired by God, 00:31:46.43\00:31:49.05 or calm to be prophets in their own right 00:31:49.06\00:31:51.85 are leading people away. 00:31:51.86\00:31:54.43 And the question then goes well with all these people 00:31:54.44\00:31:57.45 who are professing to have knowledge and wisdom, 00:31:57.46\00:31:59.48 we just talked about that. 00:31:59.49\00:32:00.93 How do we know if they truly are called by God 00:32:00.94\00:32:03.78 to be his spokesperson, yes, you know, how are they, 00:32:03.79\00:32:07.70 are they a true prophet or prophetess 00:32:07.71\00:32:10.03 or are they a false prophet or prophetess. 00:32:10.04\00:32:12.46 And so, I believe the Bible does give us a specific tests 00:32:12.47\00:32:18.61 or at least a test of what a true prophet is. 00:32:18.62\00:32:22.54 And I've just noted 12 of them here 00:32:22.55\00:32:25.49 and we're gonna try and move through this 00:32:25.50\00:32:26.99 and just see if we can pick out a few things 00:32:27.00\00:32:28.78 to give to our listeners, our viewers, 00:32:28.79\00:32:32.15 how to confirm whether or not someone who professes 00:32:32.16\00:32:35.38 to be a prophet is truly of God. 00:32:35.39\00:32:37.94 Number one, a true prophet does not lie. 00:32:37.95\00:32:42.15 What he or she predicts is always fulfilled, 00:32:42.16\00:32:44.42 unless the prophecy is conditional. 00:32:44.43\00:32:48.21 And there are many conditional prophecies here. 00:32:48.22\00:32:50.84 So we have to make sure that we put that caveat in there. 00:32:50.85\00:32:53.66 But what is predicted unless it's conditional 00:32:53.67\00:32:57.14 will come to pass. And if the condition has been met, 00:32:57.68\00:33:01.02 then it will come to pass, if it hasn't been met then 00:33:01.03\00:33:03.89 it won't come to pass. 00:33:03.90\00:33:05.25 So let's take a look at a few texts here, 00:33:05.26\00:33:06.73 do you have one there for me, the first one. 00:33:06.74\00:33:08.60 Jeremiah 28:9, a great text 00:33:08.61\00:33:11.96 as for the prophet who prophesies peace, 00:33:11.97\00:33:14.86 when the word of the prophet come to pass, 00:33:14.87\00:33:17.11 the prophet will be known as 00:33:17.12\00:33:18.58 one who the Lord has truly sent. 00:33:18.59\00:33:21.96 Very plain, if he says it's gonna happen, 00:33:21.97\00:33:25.09 it's got to happen. 00:33:25.10\00:33:26.34 And it's got to happen in the way that he says 00:33:26.35\00:33:28.88 is going to happen because he is speaking for God. 00:33:28.89\00:33:31.46 And if he is speaking for God, who knows all and sees all, 00:33:31.47\00:33:34.95 and understands all, then he knows what's going to happen 00:33:34.96\00:33:37.36 and it should happen precisely that way. 00:33:37.37\00:33:39.78 Conversely if it does not happen, 00:33:39.79\00:33:42.39 then well we got a problem. 00:33:42.40\00:33:44.28 We got a problem. Yeah, we got an issue here. 00:33:44.29\00:33:45.39 And especially, and we're talking about 00:33:46.55\00:33:48.23 one that is not conditional, yes, 00:33:48.24\00:33:50.07 evidently this is not a conditional prophecy here, 00:33:50.08\00:33:52.03 the Lord said, it is going to be this, 00:33:52.04\00:33:54.31 the prophet says it and it happens. Precisely. 00:33:54.32\00:33:56.62 But, when there is a condition, 00:33:56.63\00:33:58.92 then it's a little different scenario. 00:33:58.93\00:34:00.40 Because sometimes God will say, 00:34:00.41\00:34:01.89 if you do not repent, I will do this. 00:34:01.90\00:34:05.54 And if his people repent it doesn't happen, 00:34:05.55\00:34:08.21 but just because the prophet prophesied of that, 00:34:08.22\00:34:10.20 we can think of a most famous prophet of this, 00:34:10.21\00:34:12.11 which is Jonah in Nineveh, he said that this city 00:34:12.12\00:34:15.53 would be destroyed, right. 00:34:15.54\00:34:16.51 But, it didn't happen, did that make him a false prophet? 00:34:16.52\00:34:18.70 No, there was a condition attached to that prophecy, 00:34:18.71\00:34:21.48 that this one here is not conditional 00:34:21.49\00:34:24.29 and it's not speaking about additional prophecies... 00:34:24.30\00:34:26.59 If clauses that it got to happen and John, 00:34:27.54\00:34:29.79 as you will know, 100 percent accuracy, 00:34:29.80\00:34:32.90 there's no batting average when you live with a prophet. 00:34:32.91\00:34:35.69 It's got to be accurate all the time, 00:34:35.70\00:34:37.86 100 percent of the time, not 50 not 75, 00:34:37.87\00:34:40.76 not he or she is batting about 390, 00:34:40.77\00:34:42.87 no, gotta be 100 percent of time. 00:34:42.88\00:34:44.38 Talking about that for a minute, 00:34:44.39\00:34:45.36 I mean, don't we see that as a test today 00:34:45.37\00:34:47.87 as to someone's wisdom. 00:34:47.88\00:34:49.44 I mean, you see on, you see like in the History Channel, 00:34:49.45\00:34:52.39 I watch that once in a while, 00:34:52.40\00:34:53.51 it's enjoyable channel with some of the programs. 00:34:53.52\00:34:55.86 But some will come on there saying, you know, 00:34:55.87\00:34:57.58 success rates on prophecies from these individuals. 00:34:59.42\00:35:02.17 Well, one that appears most successful is... 00:35:02.18\00:35:04.66 and they're batting around 30, 40, 50 percent. 00:35:04.67\00:35:07.32 You wondering what makes that so good. 00:35:07.33\00:35:09.51 The biblical standard is 100 percent. 00:35:09.52\00:35:11.75 One hundred percent, yeah, 00:35:11.76\00:35:12.89 yeah if a guy is batting 50 percent, 00:35:12.90\00:35:16.79 he is wrong half the time. You can forget about that guy. 00:35:16.80\00:35:21.46 He is wrong half the time, 00:35:22.87\00:35:24.23 you don't wanna base your life, 00:35:24.24\00:35:26.03 your future, your hopes, your eternity on a guy 00:35:26.04\00:35:28.41 who is only batting 50 percent. 00:35:28.42\00:35:30.44 You might as well walk up to black or red 00:35:30.45\00:35:32.41 and throw down your life savings on it. 00:35:32.42\00:35:33.68 Precisely, yeah. I mean, it doesn't work that way. 00:35:33.69\00:35:35.67 It just, it makes no sense. 00:35:35.68\00:35:37.51 So we're talking about a person 00:35:37.52\00:35:38.82 who is speaking for God, 00:35:38.83\00:35:39.88 and have got to be right 100 percent all the time. 00:35:39.89\00:35:42.93 And that's very, very important. 00:35:42.94\00:35:43.92 Yeah, it really is, look at the next verse here 00:35:43.93\00:35:46.22 from Deuteronomy 18 verse 21 and 22. 00:35:46.23\00:35:50.22 And if you say in your heart, 'How shall we know the word 00:35:50.23\00:35:53.81 which the Lord has not spoken?" 00:35:53.82\00:35:56.01 When the prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, 00:35:56.02\00:35:58.36 if the thing does not happen or come to pass, 00:35:58.37\00:36:01.93 that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken, 00:36:01.94\00:36:05.07 the prophet has spoken it presumptuously, 00:36:05.08\00:36:07.55 you shall not be afraid of him. 00:36:07.56\00:36:09.26 Yes, yes, that's the other side of the coin. 00:36:09.27\00:36:11.75 Yes. So, if he is hurling out in activities 00:36:11.76\00:36:14.54 and you're gonna wither away and it doesn't happen, 00:36:14.55\00:36:16.88 well it didn't come from God. Yeah, that's right. 00:36:16.89\00:36:18.83 That's his own, he is, maybe got a little upset, 00:36:18.84\00:36:20.88 had a bad day. So he is spotting off 00:36:20.89\00:36:22.52 some stuff, but it didn't come from the Lord. 00:36:22.53\00:36:24.35 That's right, that's right. Another one there. 00:36:24.36\00:36:28.27 First Samuel 9:6, And he said to him, 00:36:28.28\00:36:31.21 "Look now, there is in this city a man of God, 00:36:31.22\00:36:35.09 "and he is an honorable man, 00:36:35.10\00:36:38.54 "all that he says surely comes to pass. 00:36:38.55\00:36:41.37 "So let us go there, perhaps he can show us 00:36:41.38\00:36:43.94 the way that we should go." 00:36:43.95\00:36:46.13 All right so all that he says surely comes to pass. 00:36:46.14\00:36:50.01 But it's not half of what he says comes to pass, 00:36:50.02\00:36:52.70 lets go try them out, 00:36:52.71\00:36:53.79 it's everything he says comes to pass. 00:36:53.80\00:36:56.29 These, these, these, we're begging the point here 00:36:56.30\00:37:00.68 of 100 percent accuracy. 00:37:00.69\00:37:02.46 And it's an important point to sort of lay on a little bit. 00:37:02.47\00:37:05.31 Because there are many people who gives predictions today 00:37:05.32\00:37:08.09 and they've got a batting average 00:37:08.10\00:37:10.17 and once you begin to talk about averages, 00:37:10.18\00:37:11.63 you're not talking about God. 00:37:11.64\00:37:12.97 So, if you're listening to someone, 00:37:12.98\00:37:15.62 if you're gonna put your, you know, 00:37:15.63\00:37:17.13 someone made a prediction sometime ago 00:37:17.14\00:37:19.32 and there was a fellow in New York, 00:37:19.33\00:37:20.81 who's sort of banked his whole fortune on that. 00:37:20.82\00:37:25.03 And lost all of his money, and he said well, 00:37:25.04\00:37:27.54 what do I do now. You know, 00:37:27.55\00:37:29.52 I sort of gave all my money away to this cause 00:37:29.53\00:37:32.53 because I believed this person. 00:37:32.54\00:37:34.63 And now I don't have anything, 00:37:34.64\00:37:36.08 and what he said didn't come true, 00:37:36.09\00:37:37.38 what do I do now? 00:37:37.39\00:37:38.62 And no one had answer for him because you went with a person 00:37:38.63\00:37:42.34 who had a track record, it missed sometimes on, 00:37:42.35\00:37:45.73 sometimes off, this time he was way off 00:37:45.74\00:37:48.07 and you banked on that and now you have nothing. 00:37:48.08\00:37:50.32 So, 100 percent accuracy if it's coming from the Lord. 00:37:50.33\00:37:53.94 That's right, now the other thing to remember in this, 00:37:53.95\00:37:56.32 I don't want to blabber that point too much. 00:37:56.33\00:37:58.16 But, we're not talking about the life 00:37:58.17\00:38:00.66 of the individual necessary, God works 00:38:00.67\00:38:02.62 through frail human beings, he does. 00:38:02.63\00:38:05.78 So, it doesn't mean 100 percent perfection 00:38:05.79\00:38:07.98 in the life of the prophet. 00:38:07.99\00:38:09.30 Because sometimes people look at the prophet and they say, 00:38:09.31\00:38:10.98 well, you know, he made a mistake here and there. 00:38:10.99\00:38:14.18 Not in the predictions, but I'm talking about, 00:38:14.19\00:38:15.81 he made a mistake in his life, you know, 00:38:15.82\00:38:17.91 or something he didn't choose to do, 00:38:17.92\00:38:19.81 it wasn't exactly right. 00:38:19.82\00:38:20.92 It doesn't mean that a prophet goes 00:38:20.93\00:38:23.23 throughout his or her day, hearing from God, 00:38:23.24\00:38:26.55 turn the doorknob, yeah. 00:38:26.56\00:38:28.41 Now walk through this hallway. Yeah. 00:38:28.42\00:38:30.00 Now go step over to here and talk to... 00:38:30.01\00:38:31.80 That's not, that's not what a prophet does. 00:38:31.81\00:38:35.06 So we can't say, well because their life 00:38:35.07\00:38:37.41 isn't an 100 percent perfect that they're not of God, 00:38:37.42\00:38:40.51 and if you think of someone like Jonah, 00:38:40.52\00:38:42.48 who was literally running away from God 00:38:42.49\00:38:44.62 right, and God still used him 00:38:44.63\00:38:46.25 and brought him back to speak for him. 00:38:46.26\00:38:48.85 Then we know that the requirement isn't 00:38:48.86\00:38:50.98 the 100 percent sinless life of the prophet, 00:38:50.99\00:38:53.65 but the 100 percent accuracy of the message. 00:38:53.66\00:38:55.46 Of the message, very true, very true, and a good point. 00:38:55.47\00:38:58.14 All right, look at number two here, 00:38:58.15\00:38:59.34 the second test, a true prophets speaks 00:38:59.35\00:39:02.30 in behalf of God, 00:39:02.31\00:39:06.11 and it shall be that whoever will not hear my words, 00:39:06.12\00:39:10.26 which he speaks in my name, I will require it of Him. 00:39:10.27\00:39:14.85 So, notice here, those who do not hear, 00:39:14.86\00:39:17.49 God says my words. Yes. 00:39:17.50\00:39:20.49 So when the prophets speaks, 00:39:20.50\00:39:21.80 he is speaking the words of God. 00:39:21.81\00:39:24.02 Yeah, and we're gonna touch on this in a little bit 00:39:24.03\00:39:25.97 I think, but he is not coming out of his own bag, 00:39:25.98\00:39:29.53 dare I say. He is speaking for God, 00:39:29.54\00:39:32.02 so then his words carry the import, 00:39:32.03\00:39:34.09 the weight of divinity, because he is but 00:39:34.10\00:39:36.33 the mouthpiece for a message that comes from God. 00:39:36.34\00:39:39.84 Right, and the next text, 00:39:39.85\00:39:41.08 why don't you go ahead and read that one, Amos. 00:39:41.09\00:39:42.58 Amos chapter 3 verse 7, remember this text from school 00:39:42.59\00:39:44.96 Surely the Lord God does nothing, 00:39:44.97\00:39:47.40 unless He reveals His secret to His servants, the prophets. 00:39:47.41\00:39:50.34 Of course then nothing means those kinds of things 00:39:50.35\00:39:52.61 that affect mankind's eternal well being. 00:39:52.62\00:39:55.30 If God's going to do something big 00:39:56.61\00:39:58.30 for to with through planet earth, 00:39:58.31\00:40:00.65 he is gonna warn you about it. 00:40:00.66\00:40:01.66 God's not trying to sneak anything in on us, right. 00:40:01.67\00:40:04.09 He is gonna warn us about it and give us, 00:40:04.10\00:40:05.88 dare we say in modern language the heads up, yeah. 00:40:05.89\00:40:08.49 So that we know what is coming, 00:40:08.50\00:40:11.34 so that we can be prepared. 00:40:11.35\00:40:12.39 You know, Jesus himself said, 00:40:12.40\00:40:14.09 I tell you these things that you may know be forehand. 00:40:14.10\00:40:17.01 Precisely, yeah, yeah. 00:40:17.02\00:40:18.00 So, he wants us to know in advance, 00:40:18.01\00:40:19.61 he does that through prophets. 00:40:19.62\00:40:22.80 We find here also in Revelation 10:7 00:40:22.81\00:40:24.90 an illusion to, or working out of that. 00:40:24.91\00:40:27.19 It says, but in the days of the sounding 00:40:27.20\00:40:28.83 of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, 00:40:28.84\00:40:30.54 the mystery of God would be finished, 00:40:30.55\00:40:32.39 as He declared to His servants, the prophets. 00:40:32.40\00:40:35.10 So he reveals his secrets to the prophets 00:40:35.11\00:40:37.54 and in the last days and the context of the message 00:40:37.55\00:40:39.79 going to the world, he is going to send that 00:40:39.80\00:40:43.10 through his prophets who prophesy again 00:40:43.11\00:40:46.09 the mystery of God, 00:40:46.10\00:40:47.75 in fact so much so that it will finish it. 00:40:47.76\00:40:50.40 Yes, yes. And so we will see that happen 00:40:50.41\00:40:52.61 even in these last days as God uses his servants 00:40:52.62\00:40:56.43 the prophets. All right, number three, 00:40:56.44\00:40:59.31 a true prophet's words will be in harmony 00:40:59.32\00:41:02.06 with those spoken by prophets before him or her. 00:41:02.07\00:41:04.99 Oh yes, yes, Isaiah 8:20, 00:41:05.00\00:41:07.59 To the law and to the testimony! 00:41:07.60\00:41:09.49 If they speak not according to his word, 00:41:09.50\00:41:11.56 to this word, is because there is no light in them. 00:41:11.57\00:41:14.39 John, we've got two words law and to the testimony 00:41:14.40\00:41:16.46 walk us through what that is if you will. 00:41:16.47\00:41:18.42 Well, the law often referred to in 00:41:18.43\00:41:21.03 the Bible points back to the writings of Moses. Precisely. 00:41:21.04\00:41:23.94 Okay, the five first books of the Bible. 00:41:23.95\00:41:25.96 The testimony points to the prophets, 00:41:25.97\00:41:28.49 both major and minor prophets so. 00:41:28.50\00:41:29.98 This is comprising scripture, yes, 00:41:29.99\00:41:34.05 so when it says to the law and to the testimony 00:41:34.06\00:41:35.47 it's saying others what they have written before, 00:41:35.48\00:41:38.17 if they don't speak according to that, 00:41:38.18\00:41:39.79 that they're not in harmony with that, 00:41:39.80\00:41:40.98 yeah they're not a true prophet. 00:41:40.99\00:41:42.37 Thy comes along and he is pooh-poohing or 00:41:42.38\00:41:44.94 discounting the word of God, then he is to be rejected. 00:41:44.95\00:41:48.48 Yeah. Because, one of the test says 00:41:48.49\00:41:50.02 he is got to agree with the manner of scripture. 00:41:50.03\00:41:52.68 Right. The law and the testimony. 00:41:52.69\00:41:54.46 That's right, this is an important point, 00:41:54.47\00:41:56.01 because a lot of people think that, 00:41:56.02\00:41:57.34 and they will come to you and say, 00:41:57.35\00:41:58.32 you know, I have further light. 00:41:58.33\00:42:01.08 I mean, dare we say that there's a whole book written, 00:42:01.09\00:42:04.26 that is elevated to the standard of scripture 00:42:04.27\00:42:06.86 that claims to have light beyond scripture, 00:42:06.87\00:42:09.76 that doesn't harmonize with scripture. Scripture right. 00:42:09.77\00:42:11.75 We've got be very careful when someone comes to us and says, 00:42:11.76\00:42:14.26 here I've something that gives you additional light, 00:42:14.27\00:42:16.29 that goes beyond God's word 00:42:16.30\00:42:18.22 and yet that what they are giving you 00:42:18.23\00:42:19.97 doesn't even harmonize with it. 00:42:19.98\00:42:21.52 And God is not schizophrenic, you know, 00:42:21.53\00:42:23.51 why would he bring after so many years of this word 00:42:23.52\00:42:28.25 and the power of this word, then someone comes along 00:42:28.26\00:42:30.70 and says I've got a whole new word, 00:42:30.71\00:42:31.99 just forget about this, this is a whole new deal, 00:42:32.00\00:42:33.75 and it's from God. That would make God 00:42:33.76\00:42:35.20 a little psychotic and, you know, 00:42:35.21\00:42:37.32 it doesn't really add up. 00:42:37.33\00:42:38.85 They've got to line up with the word of God 00:42:38.86\00:42:41.04 that has carried us through for so many. 00:42:41.05\00:42:42.68 And even to say, well that old word that was given, 00:42:42.69\00:42:45.16 well man corrupted it so much that 00:42:45.17\00:42:47.99 I had to given a new word, yeah. 00:42:48.00\00:42:49.52 It's almost like God is incapable of supporting, 00:42:49.53\00:42:52.64 sustaining, and caring for his word. 00:42:52.65\00:42:55.37 I trust that the Lord, the Lord has gotten this Bible 00:42:56.68\00:42:59.61 all the way through time. 00:42:59.62\00:43:01.97 To me in exactly how he intended to get 00:43:01.98\00:43:04.53 to me when it got me, yeah. 00:43:04.54\00:43:06.29 In other words, I can read it with confidence with trust, 00:43:06.30\00:43:08.77 that it hasn't been tainted or so corrupted and destroyed 00:43:08.78\00:43:12.11 by mankind that it can't save me. 00:43:12.12\00:43:15.38 I've got to be able to say I read, 00:43:15.39\00:43:17.46 I understand and I follow not to think, 00:43:17.47\00:43:20.98 oh I don't know, I can't trust it, really. 00:43:20.99\00:43:24.97 There is this always underlying current 00:43:24.98\00:43:27.15 of some of these movements, that you cant trust 00:43:27.16\00:43:29.56 the word as it's written. 00:43:29.57\00:43:31.59 You got to listen to this new word. 00:43:31.60\00:43:33.50 Yeah it's interesting and God providing such empirical proof 00:43:33.51\00:43:36.39 that back in 1947 when they found the dead sea scrolls 00:43:36.40\00:43:38.81 and they found kin going through them that they were 00:43:38.82\00:43:41.13 I think the accuracy is like 98 point something, something, 00:43:41.14\00:43:43.95 something, you know, we care up to decimals of accurate 00:43:43.96\00:43:46.83 to the word as we have it today. 00:43:46.84\00:43:49.26 So God has preserved his word down through all this scribes 00:43:49.27\00:43:52.95 and all the copying and all the changes and even appointing 00:43:52.96\00:43:56.38 and adding in the verses and chapters, 00:43:56.39\00:43:58.94 he is preserved his word, that is God's legacy to us 00:43:58.95\00:44:03.02 to give us a pure word that we can trust 00:44:03.03\00:44:04.77 and we can relay on. 00:44:04.78\00:44:06.42 The point you make is so important because, 00:44:06.43\00:44:09.08 people really harp on that issue, 00:44:09.09\00:44:10.91 you know, how did we know that the word of God is true, 00:44:10.92\00:44:12.76 Dead Sea scrolls established that, 00:44:12.77\00:44:14.54 and the other interesting thing about the two percent 00:44:14.55\00:44:16.75 of whatever it is that is not exactly perfect, yeah. 00:44:16.76\00:44:19.93 Is non substantive. Precisely, yeah. 00:44:19.94\00:44:22.33 It doesn't even matter, the part that isn't accurate. 00:44:22.34\00:44:25.30 Yeah. So it's not like oh that's the big part, 00:44:25.31\00:44:27.92 it's missing a big section it's not true at all, 00:44:27.93\00:44:30.75 it's minor differences in transcribing from one maybe 00:44:30.76\00:44:35.98 to the next down through time, 00:44:35.99\00:44:37.44 these differences are not substantive. 00:44:37.45\00:44:39.09 They don't have anything to do with you, 00:44:39.10\00:44:40.45 your salvation what you need to be saved. 00:44:40.46\00:44:42.82 Yeah, yeah someone said well John is a good guy, 00:44:42.83\00:44:46.61 and someone wrote John is a great guy. 00:44:46.62\00:44:48.21 Well, it's still the same thing. 00:44:48.22\00:44:50.59 Well, he slipped out of his house 00:44:50.60\00:44:51.73 the other day and he fell. 00:44:51.74\00:44:52.92 I saw him go straight down, well he's a clumsy guy. 00:44:54.26\00:44:56.89 So doctrinally, theologically it's pure, 00:44:58.25\00:45:01.31 its as God wants us to have it. 00:45:01.32\00:45:03.38 And very important, I wanna encourage you here, 00:45:03.39\00:45:05.61 because so many want to say that 00:45:05.62\00:45:07.09 this word isn't exactly as God intended it, 00:45:07.10\00:45:09.71 but it is in every aspect. Okay, number four, 00:45:09.72\00:45:14.16 A true prophet will not give his or her own interpretation. 00:45:14.17\00:45:19.30 And our scripture there is Second Peter 1:20, 00:45:19.31\00:45:21.40 knowing this first that no prophecy of scripture 00:45:21.41\00:45:24.13 is of any private interpretation, right. 00:45:24.14\00:45:27.07 In other words, the interpretation of a scripture 00:45:27.08\00:45:29.86 cannot be given privately by opinion. 00:45:29.87\00:45:32.17 Well I think, or boy looks like it's 00:45:32.18\00:45:34.84 going to or, you know, we see that a lot today. 00:45:34.85\00:45:37.70 I'm really concerned pastor that today we have people out 00:45:37.71\00:45:42.26 there that are just kind of watching the newspaper, 00:45:42.27\00:45:44.88 to see how maybe some of the prophets 00:45:44.89\00:45:47.26 of the Bible might fit into what's happening, yeah. 00:45:47.27\00:45:50.24 And we've done this now for the last hundred years, 00:45:50.25\00:45:53.81 the Bible does say that prophecies opened up again, 00:45:53.82\00:45:57.22 it will open up in the last days it was sealed it 00:45:57.23\00:45:59.56 is now become unsealed. So it's understandable 00:45:59.57\00:46:01.98 so there is a heightened awareness or desire for people 00:46:01.99\00:46:04.38 to understand prophecy. 00:46:04.39\00:46:05.67 But, with it also comes a lot of private interpretation. 00:46:05.68\00:46:08.50 Yes, yes, yes. You know, 00:46:08.51\00:46:09.62 will this I think is this and people develop 00:46:09.63\00:46:12.72 entire ministries to teach their brand 00:46:12.73\00:46:16.28 of interpretation of prophecy, but the Bible is clear, 00:46:16.29\00:46:20.44 it's not a private interpretation. 00:46:20.45\00:46:21.86 No, no, the Bible it's own best expositor 00:46:21.87\00:46:25.75 and when we have a question with the word, 00:46:25.76\00:46:28.80 the best place to go to get understanding 00:46:28.81\00:46:31.57 is back to that same word. 00:46:31.58\00:46:33.20 And to dig into the word until the answer comes. 00:46:33.21\00:46:36.20 As opposed to developing some sort of fan thought 00:46:36.21\00:46:39.24 interpretation that seems to titillate the senses, 00:46:39.25\00:46:41.66 but it's not biblically based. 00:46:41.67\00:46:42.85 Yeah, yeah, very important to remember. 00:46:42.86\00:46:44.92 I guess also I'll add to that what it means is 00:46:44.93\00:46:46.95 if there is symbol in prophecy, 00:46:46.96\00:46:49.28 a specific thing mentioned there, 00:46:49.29\00:46:50.75 the Bible will explain what that symbol means. 00:46:50.76\00:46:53.73 So, it doesn't become any longer 00:46:53.74\00:46:55.24 or private interpretation it becomes 00:46:55.25\00:46:56.73 an interpretation by the Bible itself. 00:46:56.74\00:46:59.21 The Bible defines and explains the symbols within prophecy, 00:46:59.22\00:47:02.14 very true. If you know that 00:47:02.15\00:47:03.25 you're on safe ground. All right number five, 00:47:03.26\00:47:06.03 A true prophet speaks only under the prompting 00:47:06.04\00:47:08.63 of the Holy Spirit according to the will of God. 00:47:08.64\00:47:12.57 By the very next verse in Second Peter, 00:47:12.58\00:47:14.02 you wanna read that one? 00:47:14.03\00:47:15.00 For prophecy never came by the will of man, 00:47:15.01\00:47:18.20 but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by 00:47:18.21\00:47:21.96 the Holy Spirit. So, they're not speaking 00:47:21.97\00:47:23.83 of themselves or for themselves, John, 00:47:23.84\00:47:26.09 they're speaking under the impress of the Spirit of God. 00:47:26.10\00:47:30.83 Okay, good 2 chronicles 20:14 and 15, 00:47:30.84\00:47:33.83 then the Spirit of the Lord came upon Jahaziel, 00:47:33.84\00:47:36.51 the son of Zechariah, the son of Benaiah, 00:47:36.52\00:47:38.58 the son of Jeiel, the son of Mattaniah, 00:47:38.59\00:47:41.01 I should go on all those. 00:47:41.02\00:47:42.00 But he said "Listen, all you of Judah 00:47:42.01\00:47:45.79 and you inhabitants of Jerusalem, 00:47:45.80\00:47:47.22 and you, King Jehoshaphat! 00:47:47.23\00:47:49.03 Thus says the Lord to you, 'Do not be afraid nor be 00:47:49.04\00:47:51.38 dismayed because of this great multitude, 00:47:51.39\00:47:53.55 for the battle is not yours, but God's. 00:47:53.56\00:47:57.78 So, anything prophesied, 00:47:57.79\00:47:59.64 anything that's going to happen, 00:47:59.65\00:48:00.65 God steps in and he speaks through the prophet 00:48:00.66\00:48:02.74 but he is the one that makes it happen, 00:48:02.75\00:48:04.59 it's his will that drives it. 00:48:04.60\00:48:06.24 All right, number six, a true path can point out 00:48:06.25\00:48:10.09 the sins of God's people. 00:48:10.10\00:48:13.05 He calls them back to obedience, 00:48:13.06\00:48:15.90 now that doesn't mean we're in the...the pew next to us. 00:48:15.91\00:48:19.10 And people that are saying, oh so and so is not right, 00:48:19.11\00:48:21.82 if they are prophet, that's not we were 00:48:21.83\00:48:23.39 talking about here. But sometimes prophets 00:48:23.40\00:48:25.82 are sent to God's people to help get them back 00:48:25.83\00:48:28.59 on the right track. You know, Isaiah 58 00:48:28.60\00:48:31.97 when Cry aloud, spare not, 00:48:31.98\00:48:32.98 Lift up your voice like a trumpet, 00:48:32.99\00:48:33.99 Tell My people their transgression, 00:48:34.00\00:48:36.03 And the house of Jacob, their sins. 00:48:36.04\00:48:37.78 When we think of prophet and this comes back 00:48:37.79\00:48:40.78 again and again we think so much of prophesying 00:48:40.79\00:48:43.22 the future, prophesying the future 00:48:43.23\00:48:44.41 but a lot of the work of a prophet was messages 00:48:44.42\00:48:47.58 given by God to his people for their current living, 00:48:47.59\00:48:53.34 for that particular time. 00:48:53.35\00:48:54.85 So there was a lot of forth telling 00:48:54.86\00:48:57.32 as in addition to foretelling. 00:48:57.33\00:49:00.89 Sort of straightening out problems 00:49:00.90\00:49:02.86 or dealing with issues or giving God's word 00:49:02.87\00:49:05.08 or God's answer or God's direction 00:49:05.09\00:49:06.45 for their lives at that time. 00:49:06.46\00:49:09.10 Yeah, really important to remember. 00:49:09.11\00:49:10.84 Because God doesn't want to see anybody get so off track 00:49:10.85\00:49:14.01 that, you know, it becomes difficult or challenging 00:49:14.02\00:49:17.69 to get them back and we can guide them along 00:49:17.70\00:49:20.05 early on to understand the error of their way, 00:49:20.06\00:49:23.03 where they're heading, the Lord often can use 00:49:23.04\00:49:25.55 a prophet to do that, yes. 00:49:25.56\00:49:26.91 And the Bible clearly tells us that from Isaiah 58:1, 00:49:26.92\00:49:30.02 Daniel 9:10 says, We have not obeyed 00:49:30.03\00:49:33.23 the voice of the Lord our God, to walk in His laws, 00:49:33.24\00:49:35.77 which He set before us by His servants, the prophets. 00:49:35.78\00:49:39.45 So, a lot of what the prophets speak are to help guide us 00:49:39.46\00:49:43.04 and to keep us on the narrow path, from straying. 00:49:43.05\00:49:46.50 And so that's also an aspect of keeping us on that 00:49:46.51\00:49:50.88 straight path and keeping away from sin 00:49:50.89\00:49:53.08 that the devil is always looking to ensnare us with. 00:49:53.09\00:49:55.62 Very true. Number seven, 00:49:55.63\00:49:57.34 a true prophet edifies the church. 00:49:57.35\00:50:01.48 First Corinthians 14:3 and 4, But he who prophesies speaks 00:50:01.49\00:50:05.06 edification and exhortation and comfort to men. 00:50:05.07\00:50:08.75 He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, 00:50:08.76\00:50:12.11 but he who prophesies edifies the church. 00:50:12.12\00:50:15.22 Which is one of the reasons Paul elevated prophecy 00:50:15.23\00:50:19.26 to a very high level. And all of his lists of gifts 00:50:19.27\00:50:25.56 given by the spirit to the church, 00:50:25.57\00:50:27.07 prophecy appears in all four of those list, 00:50:27.08\00:50:30.20 and not only that but his desire is that 00:50:30.21\00:50:32.44 they would all prophesied. 00:50:32.45\00:50:33.79 And because he desired that because it would keep 00:50:33.80\00:50:36.55 the church on track, it would keep it focused 00:50:36.56\00:50:39.07 and headed the right direction, 00:50:39.08\00:50:40.62 and that is truly the message or the reason for the prophet. 00:50:40.63\00:50:45.00 Number eight, a true prophet provides 00:50:46.87\00:50:48.23 evidence of spiritual conversion 00:50:48.24\00:50:49.81 in their life and works. 00:50:49.82\00:50:52.31 You will know them by their fruits it says in 00:50:52.32\00:50:54.59 Matthew 7 verse 16 I won't read the rest of that, 00:50:54.60\00:50:57.92 but the fruit of the light, it bears witness that 00:50:57.93\00:51:01.25 they're a follower of Jesus, they obey him now 00:51:01.26\00:51:03.92 they may not be perfect in every way, 00:51:03.93\00:51:05.76 but the trend of there life is upward and following. 00:51:05.77\00:51:09.33 That's a great statement, the trend of their life, 00:51:09.34\00:51:12.68 because they're not superhuman they are human 00:51:12.69\00:51:14.73 and sometimes humans make mistake. 00:51:14.74\00:51:17.04 Maybe they got a little upset 00:51:17.05\00:51:18.19 when they should have been calm, 00:51:18.20\00:51:19.32 or you know, those kinds of things like that. 00:51:19.33\00:51:21.88 It doesn't mean that they're not speaking for the Lord, 00:51:21.89\00:51:25.47 it means that sometimes they're human, 00:51:25.48\00:51:27.29 humanity comes through. 00:51:27.30\00:51:29.42 Ellen White, the great prophetic voice of 00:51:29.43\00:51:31.74 Seventh-day Adventist church said many times, 00:51:31.75\00:51:33.58 don't pattern your life after me. 00:51:33.59\00:51:37.21 Keep your eyes focused on God, right. 00:51:37.22\00:51:39.44 And I'm doing the same thing, 00:51:39.45\00:51:41.43 I'm keeping my eyes focused on God. 00:51:41.44\00:51:43.16 So as you focus on God, and not me, 00:51:43.17\00:51:45.04 your eyes are in the correct place. 00:51:45.05\00:51:46.71 Yes, as soon as we start looking at what 00:51:46.72\00:51:47.75 the prophet does, yes, we get in trouble, 00:51:47.76\00:51:50.62 because she is or he is not the standard, right. 00:51:50.63\00:51:53.31 All right. Number nine, 00:51:53.32\00:51:54.96 a true prophet hears from God in visions and dreams. 00:51:54.97\00:51:57.50 Numbers 12:6, Then He said, 00:51:57.51\00:52:00.25 "Hear now My words: If there is a prophet among you, 00:52:00.26\00:52:02.85 "I the Lord, make Myself known to him in a vision, 00:52:02.86\00:52:05.72 I speak to him in a dream." 00:52:05.73\00:52:08.19 So in supernatural ways, God speaks to his prophets. 00:52:08.20\00:52:11.90 Numbers 10, a true prophet will manifest 00:52:11.91\00:52:15.14 physical evidence that is supernatural, 00:52:15.15\00:52:17.82 Numbers 24:4, The utterance of him 00:52:17.83\00:52:20.29 who hears the words of God, 00:52:20.30\00:52:22.52 who sees the vision of the Almighty, 00:52:22.53\00:52:24.20 who falls down with eyes wide open. 00:52:24.21\00:52:27.27 And so we talk about that for just a minute, 00:52:27.28\00:52:29.59 because we often know think that there is a 00:52:29.60\00:52:31.58 supernatural element to prophecy 00:52:31.59\00:52:33.99 or to a prophet receiving a vision or dream from God. 00:52:34.00\00:52:36.57 Yes, who falls down with eyes wide open, 00:52:36.58\00:52:40.86 there are some supernatural things going on 00:52:40.87\00:52:44.53 while a prophet is in vision. 00:52:44.54\00:52:46.45 Of course, we've had this in modern times, 00:52:46.46\00:52:50.79 modern times also, but God sustains them during 00:52:50.80\00:52:54.79 these times when they are in direct contact with him, 00:52:54.80\00:52:58.15 receiving messages from Lord to be given to His people. 00:52:58.16\00:53:00.31 Yeah, and the times that we often see this 00:53:00.32\00:53:02.40 in some of the charismatic movements of day. 00:53:02.41\00:53:05.33 It's not really supernatural, we're seeing a little bit of 00:53:05.34\00:53:09.08 stuff going on that's appears to be, 00:53:09.09\00:53:11.53 but when we're talking about supernatural, 00:53:11.54\00:53:13.57 we're talking about God who provides, 00:53:13.58\00:53:15.28 he almost becomes the life preserver of that individual 00:53:15.29\00:53:18.07 while they are in vision, yes. 00:53:18.08\00:53:19.49 In other words, you can't, breathing stops, 00:53:19.50\00:53:21.99 you know, other things it is fails to function, 00:53:22.00\00:53:24.40 but God is sustaining that individual supernaturally. 00:53:24.41\00:53:27.57 And that's what its speaking of here. 00:53:27.58\00:53:29.38 And John, I think we need to mention 00:53:29.39\00:53:30.92 when we're trying to access if a person 00:53:30.93\00:53:33.91 is a prophetic voice of God, 00:53:33.92\00:53:36.58 we need put all of these things into the pot. Right. 00:53:36.59\00:53:39.82 Not every one or two, because they may pass 00:53:39.83\00:53:42.06 one or two tests, but you need to, 00:53:42.07\00:53:44.48 it's the stew dare I say of all of these things, 00:53:44.49\00:53:48.68 when cook together, then we can say that 00:53:48.69\00:53:51.50 this person has a prophetic message from the Lord. 00:53:51.51\00:53:54.94 And that's why we actually say this is an a biblical tests, 00:53:54.95\00:53:58.79 they're a biblical test. All of them together. 00:53:58.80\00:54:01.54 Precisely. Comprised this. 00:54:01.55\00:54:02.80 Lets give you a couple others ones, 00:54:02.81\00:54:04.51 we're getting close to the end of the program here. 00:54:04.52\00:54:06.70 Number 11, a true prophet recognizes the incarnation 00:54:06.71\00:54:09.32 of Jesus Christ and the nature of his mission. 00:54:09.33\00:54:11.65 We find that in First John 4 verses one through three. 00:54:11.66\00:54:16.07 Beloved do not believe every spirit, 00:54:16.08\00:54:18.09 but test the spirits, whether they are of God. 00:54:18.10\00:54:20.29 Because many false prophet have gone out into the world, 00:54:20.30\00:54:22.91 but this you know of Spirit of God, 00:54:22.92\00:54:25.17 Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ 00:54:25.18\00:54:27.56 has come in the flesh is of God, 00:54:27.57\00:54:29.59 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ 00:54:29.60\00:54:32.08 has come in the flesh is not of God. 00:54:32.09\00:54:34.18 And this is a spirit of the Anti-Christ, 00:54:34.19\00:54:36.00 which we've heard from, heard was coming, 00:54:36.01\00:54:38.08 and it's already in the world. 00:54:38.09\00:54:39.55 They are many false prophet out there, 00:54:39.56\00:54:40.93 there are those who claim to know things. 00:54:40.94\00:54:42.26 Yes, they don't profess Christ at all. 00:54:42.27\00:54:44.70 Yeah, yeah that a key, that's a big red letter, 00:54:44.71\00:54:48.89 red flag, red check say, red underline, 00:54:48.90\00:54:51.91 however you want to do it, but they've got 00:54:51.92\00:54:53.09 to profess Christ. They've got to believe 00:54:53.10\00:54:56.46 in Christ, they've got to follow Christ. 00:54:56.47\00:54:58.30 Amen, yeah and then the last one here, 00:54:58.31\00:55:00.33 number 12, a true prophet warns 00:55:00.34\00:55:02.10 the world of God's judgment. 00:55:02.11\00:55:03.78 And that's one of the reasons why 00:55:03.79\00:55:06.44 the Seventh-day Adventist church 00:55:06.45\00:55:07.46 in fact today calls or refers to itself sometimes 00:55:07.47\00:55:09.72 as a prophetic movement. 00:55:09.73\00:55:11.16 In that we are proclaiming the Three Angels Messages 00:55:11.17\00:55:15.10 as depicted in Revelation chapter 14. 00:55:15.11\00:55:17.80 And that message is a message that begins with judgment. 00:55:17.81\00:55:21.24 Judgment is coming, not only is it here, 00:55:21.25\00:55:23.80 but it's also coming. 00:55:23.81\00:55:24.78 We're living in the last days where we are in 00:55:24.79\00:55:26.97 what's known as a pre-advent judgment, 00:55:26.98\00:55:28.93 where Christ is investigating and inspecting the lives 00:55:28.94\00:55:33.37 of those who profess to follow him, 00:55:33.38\00:55:35.16 and of times when judgments are beginning 00:55:35.17\00:55:39.40 to fall on the earth. Culminating or climaxing 00:55:39.41\00:55:42.90 with a very last day judgment, 00:55:42.91\00:55:45.09 a time of trouble that brings end to the world. 00:55:45.10\00:55:48.72 This harkens back to Amos chapter 3 verse 7, 00:55:48.73\00:55:51.76 surely the Lord will do nothing, 00:55:51.77\00:55:53.64 but then reveal it to a service, 00:55:53.65\00:55:54.94 the prophets, well God is about to end this world. 00:55:54.95\00:55:57.19 He is about to judge this world. 00:55:57.20\00:55:58.83 He is about to change this dispensation. 00:55:58.84\00:56:01.03 This age is about to come to its end followed by a new age. 00:56:01.04\00:56:05.59 That's a big thing. Do you think, 00:56:05.60\00:56:06.92 God would not want to warn his people to get them ready 00:56:06.93\00:56:09.82 for that time. Of course he would, 00:56:09.83\00:56:11.31 and of course that message with 00:56:11.32\00:56:12.29 come through a prophetic voice. 00:56:12.30\00:56:14.16 You know, it really is a key, 00:56:14.17\00:56:15.73 because if you look at the way Revelation is structured. 00:56:15.74\00:56:18.56 You kind of get to a climatic point at chapter 12, 00:56:18.57\00:56:21.65 you know, this controversy between good and evil. 00:56:21.66\00:56:23.90 Yes, and then from there you can a springboard 00:56:23.91\00:56:26.04 into the response to that controversy, 00:56:26.05\00:56:28.10 which is Satan's attempt to destroy the church on earth. 00:56:28.11\00:56:31.22 Yes. That is God beloved, 00:56:31.23\00:56:33.27 but then God's people rising to the level to meet 00:56:33.28\00:56:36.24 that in fourteen with the 144,000 described 00:56:36.25\00:56:39.89 as being without no fault, they're without any guile, 00:56:39.90\00:56:43.31 they're pure, their message is pure 00:56:43.32\00:56:45.06 and then they have the Three Angels messages 00:56:45.07\00:56:46.76 that go to the world. 00:56:46.77\00:56:47.75 Precisely, yeah. 00:56:47.76\00:56:48.78 So, yeah, an amazing part of Revelation 00:56:48.79\00:56:53.29 to take a look at when you talk about the prophets. 00:56:53.30\00:56:56.27 And as you look and study. 00:56:56.28\00:56:58.19 In fact when you hear ever of someone that 00:56:58.20\00:57:00.09 claims to be a prophet the best place to go, 00:57:00.10\00:57:01.94 as we've always said, is to the word, to the word. 00:57:01.95\00:57:04.53 And we hope that today we shared with you a test, 00:57:04.54\00:57:08.61 not test, but a test of what it means 00:57:08.62\00:57:12.23 to be a true prophet of God. 00:57:12.24\00:57:15.23 And that those things in number, 00:57:15.24\00:57:17.54 1 to 12 that will give you, will help you to understand 00:57:17.55\00:57:20.15 as you apply them to any individual 00:57:20.16\00:57:21.96 that claims to be one, whether or not they truly 00:57:21.97\00:57:24.63 are of God or not. 00:57:24.64\00:57:25.81 I pray that God will speak to your life, 00:57:25.82\00:57:27.28 each and everyday and I hope he has through this program 00:57:27.29\00:57:29.59 and those in the future. 00:57:29.60\00:57:30.81 May God bless you and keep you. 00:57:30.82\00:57:32.66