Hello, friends grab your Bible
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and a friend and
sit back as we explore
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Gods word together on
this edition of House Calls.
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Well, friends welcome to
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another edition of House Calls,
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a program we're
always excited about.
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My name is John
Lomacang as you know
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and in the studio today
with me is John Stanton.
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It's good to be here with you.
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Boy, I tell you,
you look happy today.
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I'm a happy guy to be sure.
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You got a new glasses and all.
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Oh, I don't know about
how new the glasses are,
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I guess a few
months old, but, yeah,
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probably the
first time I worn them
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actually on this programs,
so--That's good, you know,
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I know there are people
that are watching and say,
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man, like guys his hair
looks different this week
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and his glasses look different
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and there are those
who are just noticing
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all kinds of
things, but what we want
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you to notice more
than all those things
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that are ethereal
and just the static,
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is the word of God.
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We're glad you tuned in. Amen.
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But I want you right now to
press record if you have VCR
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or however you are recording
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We really
appreciate all that you do
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to make this program a success.
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And we always like
the questions we get,
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but before we go to anything.
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John why don't you
lead us in prayer today?
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Let's do that.
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Our Father in
heaven, Lord once again
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we're here opening Your word
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and we pray that as we do that,
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that You will fill us
with your Spirit Lord.
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Guide and direct our
thoughts and teach us
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what we do not know
or cannot know ourselves.
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And Lord,
please touch each heart
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that hears this message
tune, in Jesus amen. Amen.
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The questions we've been
receiving are good questions.
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We've some today,
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but before we even
go to those questions.
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Well, you know that the website
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to send the questions
to or the email that is,
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is housecalls@3abn.org,
that's housecalls@3abn.org,
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and John we've been
getting a lot of questions.
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We did a lot of questions,
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I don't know if
the program is growing
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or what's happening,
but you are sending in
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some great questions
and we appreciate that.
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And I'm gonna go
ahead and read one here--
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to start of with here today.
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This question is
from Geneva or Jeneva,
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I'm not sure. Okay.
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I'm sure we martyr a lot
of names here, here we go.
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Actually she is
from Chattanooga. Okay.
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But here's the
question that she ask.
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There is a
scripture for most of the men
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that Jesus called
to be His disciples,
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so how Judas
Iscariot and by following you
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get to be counted
as part of the 12.
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Also what happen to the one
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that was chosen to
take the place of Judas,
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when he hanged himself.
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The last one
chosen made the circle
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of 12 complete
again, yet years later
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Paul identifies
himself as an apostle of Jesus.
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How can this
belief be, please explain?
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It's a good question,
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and several actually
several questions in there.
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First one of
course is easily answered
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and we're gonna
go to Luke Chapter 6
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to find a answer
to, how Judas Iscariot
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and
Bartholomew, was, were chosen
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and Luke Chapter 6
beginning in verse 12,
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we'll read 12 and 13.
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It says this, "Now
came to past in those days
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that he went out to
the mountain to pray,
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and continued all
night in prayer to God.
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And when it was day he
called his disciples to Himself
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and from them he chose twelve,
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whom he also
named apostles". Okay.
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Now there are some
significant things here John
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that I really like about this.
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First of all
it's a big decision,
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Jesus has the big
decision on his hand,
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does He not choose the
right twelve. That's right.
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And so the question,
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the first
question here of course,
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how did he choose
Judas and Bartholomew.
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Well, it says that first of all
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Jesus prayed to His father
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and I'm sure He
prayed for wisdom.
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And the first thing He
does after His prayer is
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He comes down and
He chooses this 12.
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So do you think
Jesus is impressed
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as to what He should do
and who He should choose?
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Oh, definitely.
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I think He is and so
the first question is
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answered by,
Jesus Himself chose them
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under the
inspiration of His Father.
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These are the 12
that should be chosen.
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And then of course it
says what happened to the one
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that was chosen to
take the place of Judas
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that was
Matthias and so Matthias
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is mentioned
only in that instance.
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I've looked up
Matthias in the Bible,
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I can't find any other instance
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where Matthias is mentioned
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beyond his
choosing to replace Judas,
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is part of the 12
in the New Testament.
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And then the last question is,
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is dealing more
with the fact that
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does God have only 12 apostles.
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And that question we'll go ahead
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and answer here by
looking at the church,
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God gave to the
church, many different gifts
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and it's neat to know that
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one of those gifts is apostles.
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And He gives that gift,
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it's identified in
Ephesians Chapter 4 verse 11,
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and so even after
the twelve apostles
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that were chosen to
begin the work of the church.
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Apostles have been
doing that work ever since.
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He continues to choose
apostles to do the work.
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But I could also argue John,
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that Paul replaced
Steven as Steven is stoning.
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And I don't say for
sure that's the case,
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it's just my own opinion. Okay.
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But I can argue with because
what we've in that scene,
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we've Steven being stoned.
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He is the first martyr,
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the first martyr
disciple that's recorded.
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And at the stoning who's there?
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Paul is there, and so
with Paul being there,
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or Saul, excuse
me, Saul at the time,
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later named Paul.
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But God called Saul,
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to be Paul and to be
an apostle to the Gentiles
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and so we find
that, he could be argued
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as replacing
Steven after his stoning.
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And you mentioned we talk
about this little bit before,
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but Paul suffered
for that, didn't he?
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Well, Paul I would
say the word suffer,
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the suffering actually
was throughout his life,
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the temporary things
that he had go through.
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And I say temporary,
because he made it very clear
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that the
suffering of this life are,
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just temporary, not eternal,
but the joys are eternal.
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The Lord chose
Saul, converted him,
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he became Paul
and for every person
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that could have been converted
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through the life of
Steven, I believe that
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Paul was used by God to convert
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so many, many, many
more even to this very day,
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his writings are
still being used. Yeah.
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And there are no
writings of Steven. Right.
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But it's amazing
how this persecutor
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became a proclamator,
proclaimer of the Gospel.
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He became an apostle which is
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in fact the
difference between a disciple,
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one who has been
trained is the disciple.
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One who has been
send is an apostle,
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so if you are
send with a message,
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you are an apostle also.
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In fact Romans 1:1 says,
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Paul who's the writer of Romans.
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"A bond servant of Jesus Christ,
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called to be an
apostle, there you go,
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who's he called by, he
was called by God himself.
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And I say that, that
he suffered for that,
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not because it's a
suffering to be an apostle,
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that its some kind
of horrible experience,
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but he suffered for that
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because I think
as you recognized
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even throughout Paul's life,
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that he was persecute
through a great degree.
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And it couldn't
have been that God
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let him go
through that experience,
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because he knew
how to endure it,
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because he in fact persecuted
the church for a while.
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Right, it was
his payback and so--
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And so to speak
it was a payback,
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but I mean he did suffer for
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what he had done to
the church early on.
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But he gladly suffered in that.
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It was a joy to him
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which he writes
several times kind of a joy,
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when he go through suffering
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and trails and
so Paul did do that.
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But I just want to leave
you with one thing there,
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first of all there
is, there are only 12,
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there were 12 that
begin the work. Right.
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But there have
been many more apostles
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that have been called since
then, Paul was one of them.
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And so we need to make sure that
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we don't restrict the
Bible to just calling the work,
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the apostles
that were working back
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then has been
the only ones there.
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Matter of fact, the
Bible even talks about
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when he sent out in
reference to the disciples.
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He sent out the 70. Yes.
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So there were even
more than 12 disciples.
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Thank you for
that question John.
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We've a question from Greg,
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and he comments-- we
thank you for the comment.
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I enjoy your program,
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so, it is so very
enlightening, bless you both.
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I've a question, did I
hear you say that the bright
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and morning star is
the star or Lucifer.
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Maybe I heard you wrong.
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Well, if we did say
that Lucifer was the bright
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and morning star,
that's not correct.
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Lucifer was a morning star
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and I want to point out a
few references in the Bible.
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You know, the
Bible uses the word star,
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sometimes interchangeable
to also mean angels.
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I'll begin by going to
few passages in scripture
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and the one that
is most prevalent
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that fits into the question
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that you ask is
Isaiah 14 verse 12.
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"How are you fallen from heaven,
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O Lucifer, son of the morning"?
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You see, but then let's go
even further to build on that
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Job 38 beginning
with the verse 4.
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Turn your Bibles
there if you have it,
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because this is amazing,
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the Bible talks
about the very exchanges
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of how things appear
before the throne of God.
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And notice this, once gain
Lucifer, son of the morning.
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Isaiah 14:12 now Job 38 verse 4.
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This is where the Lord
is asking Job questions
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because Job was at this
point kind of frustrated
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all though he didn't
blame God for the tribulation
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and the sin that he had to face
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all though he didn't
blame God for the persecution,
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he got little angry.
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And the Lord now
humbled him with these questions
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and one of them,
a very significant,
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one of them is very significant
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Job 38 and verse 7 says,
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where were you and here it is,
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"When the morning
stars sang together,
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and all the sons of
God shouted for joy?".
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In the book of Job
Chapter 1 and Job Chapter 2
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you also find that
when the sons of God
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came to present
themselves before the Lord,
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Satan came also.
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And the Bible says
where did you come from?
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He says from
going back and forth
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into and fro on the earth.
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And so you find
a number of times
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two passages so
far stars Lucifer,
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son of the morning.
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But I'll just go ahead and add
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another one
Revelation 1 verse 20,
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once again the
reference to stars.
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Revelation
Chapter 1 and verse 20
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showing the
symbolism being defined here,
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"The mystery of the seven stars
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which you saw in my right hand
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and the seven
golden candlesticks.
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The seven stars are the angels,
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so there you once again
angels, stars and the one
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that I think really
has quite a bit of weight,
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the last one
Revelation 12 and verse 4,
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speaking about the
controversy in heaven,
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this war that
broke out in heaven
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talks about beginning in verse 1
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of Revelation Chapter 12.
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But he says in
Revelation 12 and verse 4.
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"His tail, that is
the tail of the dragon
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drew a third of
the stars of heaven
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and threw them to the earth.
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And the dragon
stood before the woman
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who was ready to give birth,
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to devour her child
as soon as he was born".
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So the stars
that fell from heaven
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are the angels that
fell in the rebellion
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that Satan
launched against heaven.
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Star, star, star
and the very phrase
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or the very name
Lucifer means morning star,
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right, son of the morning,
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but not the
bright and morning star.
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The bright and
morning star is Jesus.
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That's right, good, good.
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One more question
here, it's from Kerry,
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I doesn't see where
she is writing from,
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but she said that her husband
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and her could not find
an answer to this question
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and so they are
wondering if we could.
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If the Jews do not believe
that Jesus is the son of God,
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why don't they still sacrifice
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animals for
forgiveness of their sins?
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Good question,
very good question,
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because if Jesus
the messiah had not come
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who those sacrifices point to
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when they can change
the sacrifice, make sense.
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That's a question I
actually had thought of
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when I was younger and wonder
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why in the world
aren't they doing that.
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And I did come
to good conclusion
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in fact I think a
very a key conclusion
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and that is of
course currently today
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we have a what's call
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a Middle Eas
crisis on our hands,
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all the attention of
the world is pretty much
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on the Middle East at least
the Christian world per say.
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But there is a war going on
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and that war
between to great degree
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between Islam and Christianity,
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behind the scenes the
under turns of that is.
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One of the things
we need to remember is,
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that the Jews when
they sacrifice animals,
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they did that
always in the temple
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there was place for doing it,
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you couldn't just say
I'm going to sacrifice today
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and I'm going to
do it at my house
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that's just wasn't appropriate
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and nor was it
considered acceptable by God
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and so they
sacrificed in a place
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that currently
sits a temple of Islam,
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the dome of the
rock, the dome of the rock,
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and so they cannot sacrifice
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and begin
sacrifices there at this time
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because it's taken up by
Islam, by the Muslim nation.
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And so that being the case
they would like to sacrifice
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but they cannot do it John.
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Now I think one day
they like to resume that
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and that probably is
in the back of their minds
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I'm sure but it's just
not politically correct
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at least to, to
publicize that too much.
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And John that's
a very good point,
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because there
are many Christians
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who even are looking
forward to the reestablishment
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of the system of sacrifices
almost as an indication of
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some last day event scenario.
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There were number of
books that were written,
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one only even want to
give credibility to it,
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but some were saying
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well when the system
of sacrifice is a setup
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then the temple is
gonna be desecrated
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and the antichrist
is gonna make a covenant
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and then the
tribulation is gonna
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begin with the
rapture obviously.
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Oh, that is the
snatching of people invisibly
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we don't believe
any of those things
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that I just pointed out
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is not
scripturally supported either
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and then why would Christians
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want to go back to
a sacrificial system
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when Jesus is the
ultimate sacrifice.
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He is the lamb slain from
the foundation of the world,
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after his sacrifice
matter of fact, you know, John?
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Go with us to
the book of Hebrews
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let me see if can find this.
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Which one you are looking for?
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Hebrew Chapter 10,
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by the way friends
I've a brand new Bible.
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I'm up to my fifth Bible now
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because I get so marking habit,
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that after a while
I can't see the text.
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But let's look it-- okay, yes,
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let's look at
Hebrews Chapter 10.
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I want you to see this.
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Hebrews Chapter
10 and talking about
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that sacrificial
system that they--
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It is not
expedien in the economy
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and in the plan of
salvation that Jesus came
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and established
through His final sacrifice.
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Look at it here,
Hebrews 10 verse 1,
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"For the law having a
shadow of good things to come,
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and not the very
image of the things,
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can never, can what?
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Never, with
these same sacrifices
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which they offered
continually year by year
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make those who approach."
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Perfect, that means
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those who approach
the throne of grace.
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"For then would they not
have ceased to be offered?
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For then would they not
have ceased to be offered,
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for the
worshippers, once purged,
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would have had no
more conscience of sin.
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But in those sacrifices
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there is a
reminder of sin every year."
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And here's the key.
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"For it is not
possible that the blood of bulls
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and of goats
should take away sins.
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Therefore, when He
came into the world',
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He said, here's the key,
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'sacrifice and
offerings You did not desire,
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But a body You
have prepared for Me."
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So those who accept
the broken body of Jesus
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which is the
communion service symbol.
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Those who accept
the shed blood of Jesus
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which is
communion service symbols,
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which Paul the
Apostle in 1st Corinthians 11
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verse 23 through 26 talks about,
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"For those who
accept that symbol,
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there is no need to go
back to the sacrificial system."
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Because there is no
more perfect sacrifice
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than the blood and
the body of Jesus Christ.
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it's very good, you
know, and John it says
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and I'm not gonna
leave the Book of Hebrews
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'cause it's very, in fact,
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you want to look about or
read more about the subject,
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read Hebrews 8 through 10
very, very key subject there
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for the transference
from the old covenant
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to the new covenant.
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But look at this verse
13 and Chapter 8 it says,
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in that he says
"A new covenant,"
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He has made the first
obsolete." That's right.
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"Now what is becoming obsolete
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and growing old is
ready to vanish away."
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In other words, those things
or sacrifices that were done
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before in the Old
Covenant are obsolete,
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they are vanishing away,
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because we live
into the new covenant.
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John, I know that you had
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brought up a key thing that,
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you know, now I was
starting to really go here.
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But you brought
up the issue about
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Christians are waiting
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for this
covenant, we reestablished
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with the Jews by God
Himself. It's a pulse--
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They are waiting
for sacrifices to happen
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and they are just looking
at this Middle East crisis
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as maybe the
ushering in of that.
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And I find very
interesting, if you look
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at the description
of the new covenant,
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found in Hebrews Chapter
8, it says there in verse 8,
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"Behold, the days are coming,
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says the Lord, when I
will make a new covenant
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with the house of Israel
and with the house of Judah."
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And it says, not
according to the old covenant.
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So we as a church we say,
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we're living
under the new covenant.
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We're new covenant Christians,
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I'm not in the old covenant,
see and we won't say that
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because we don't want to keep
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all ten of the commandments.
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That's what some people say.
That's what some people say.
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And I think that's
what they are pointing to.
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I'm under the new covenant,
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covenant of grace, not of law,
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not of works, none of
that, part of that is true.
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But the issue that I have here,
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John, is we
selectively use that. Right.
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Because we say that we're living
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under the new
covenant as a church.
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Why do we say then
that a new covenant
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will be established with Israel?
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When it says that Israel
is under the new covenant
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and Israel is the
church. That's right.
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So you can have it both ways.
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If you are the church
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operating under
the new covenant,
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you are spiritual
Israel. There it is.
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So don't look to
the nation of Israel.
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And I used two terms, John,
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I say, there are two
terms here to explain
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these two eras, these
old and new covenants. Okay.
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The old covenant is
the nation of Israel.
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The new covenant is
the church of Israel.
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That's right,
the spiritual body.
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We call it the spiritual
church, the spiritual Israel,
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but it is the church
of Israel. Very good.
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Israel isn't
pointing to a specific people.
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Israel points to
someone who holds on to God
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and doesn't let
go and perseveres.
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As the name was given to Jacob,
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that's what Israel
means, it doesn't mean,
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oh, because you
are specific people,
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you have a gene pool or
something I'm selecting you,
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you are Israel from now on.
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It simply means
that you are the people
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that I chosen to
persevere, to conquer,
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to overcome by my power.
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When Israel did not
do that as a nation,
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He chose Israel
the church to do it.
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And so the church at the end
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will be the church triumphant,
00:19:24.89\00:19:26.64
the church of Israel.
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So there is no
Israel as a nation
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to look forward for a covenant
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or reestablish
under the covenant by God.
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It's already been established,
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the new covenant is
establish with His church,
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and that's what's gonna
stay until the end of time.
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I can't say it better
that was very well done.
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Well, I just, you know,
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I know that there are many
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who are waiting for
this event to happen.
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In old prophecy they say
00:19:48.54\00:19:49.65
is pointing to
the things happening
00:19:49.66\00:19:51.51
now in the Middle East,
and that's not the case,
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prophecy surrounds God's church.
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That's right, that's
why Romans 9 and verse 6.
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If you want to write this down
00:19:59.35\00:20:00.42
or maybe turn to it
really fits into this
00:20:00.43\00:20:03.29
very, very exposit that John
00:20:03.30\00:20:06.33
just elaborated so
articulately. Praise God.
00:20:06.34\00:20:11.28
Here is what the Bible says.
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But it is not, Romans 9 verse 6,
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"But it is not that the word
of God has taken no effect.'
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But here's the real issue.
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'For they are not all Israel,
00:20:23.12\00:20:26.18
the nation that is the people
of God, who are of Israel."
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The one that God
converted from Jacob to Israel.
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In other words, those who are
00:20:36.31\00:20:37.68
from his lineage are not
all Israelites. That's right.
00:20:37.69\00:20:42.25
In other words,
they are not the one,
00:20:42.26\00:20:43.70
they hadn't wrestled with me
and had overcome like He did.
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And although they
have come from his lineage,
00:20:49.07\00:20:50.80
his seed, they
are not overcomers.
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If you look at the
message of Revelation,
00:20:53.63\00:20:55.54
when it talks about
the 12 tribes of Israel.
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Seven times, eight
times in Revelation
00:20:58.85\00:21:01.23
the word overcome is there.
00:21:01.24\00:21:03.54
Those who overcome,
those who wrestled with God,
00:21:03.55\00:21:06.39
they are in fact
the spiritual Israel.
00:21:06.40\00:21:09.94
And if we're in
Christ, we are Abraham seed
00:21:09.95\00:21:12.93
and there is
according to the promise,
00:21:12.94\00:21:14.53
going right back down to that
00:21:14.54\00:21:15.82
spiritual
lineage Jesus even said,
00:21:15.83\00:21:19.45
My mother and My father,
00:21:19.46\00:21:21.24
My sister, and brothers are
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those who do the will of God.
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He wasn't talking
about a physical lineage
00:21:24.58\00:21:27.21
or an actual
seed of a nationality,
00:21:27.22\00:21:31.19
because there are so
many individuals when you look
00:21:31.20\00:21:34.01
at this particular
outline in the Bible.
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There are those who think that
00:21:36.53\00:21:37.93
because I was born in
Israel or born in Greece,
00:21:37.94\00:21:42.49
you know, some people say,
00:21:42.50\00:21:43.47
I know Hebrew, I know Greek,
00:21:43.48\00:21:45.30
you could know
Greek back and forth
00:21:45.31\00:21:46.52
or Hebrew back and
forth, it is not the physical.
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That's right. But the spiritual.
00:21:49.50\00:21:51.03
You know, I'm
gonna touch on something
00:21:51.04\00:21:52.64
and its a little deep maybe
for some of the viewers here,
00:21:52.65\00:21:55.35
but you will
understand it very well,
00:21:55.36\00:21:56.60
I know and some will.
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I've been
preparing for the series,
00:22:00.18\00:22:02.12
evangelistic series,
I'm doing ten nights of it
00:22:02.13\00:22:04.13
and I'm trying to present
it in a as easy way as I can,
00:22:04.14\00:22:08.14
this transition
from the nation of Israel
00:22:08.15\00:22:10.20
to the church of Israel.
00:22:10.21\00:22:12.13
And what I find
here is that for both
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they each had a probationary
period. That's right.
00:22:15.24\00:22:18.75
They each had a
probationary period
00:22:18.76\00:22:20.26
that that had a
timeline given to it.
00:22:20.27\00:22:24.66
The nation of Israel
00:22:24.67\00:22:25.65
had a 70 week
probationary period,
00:22:25.66\00:22:28.63
which is found in Daniel
Chapter 9 verse 24. Right.
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"For them finish transgression
00:22:32.19\00:22:33.55
making end of sins, make
reconciliation for inequity,
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bringing the
everlasting righteousness.
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See up the vision and prophesy.
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That was probation
for the nation of Israel,
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but we also see at the
end of the 23,000 years,
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the longer period of time,
00:22:46.66\00:22:48.51
they will come a probationary
close. That's right.
00:22:48.52\00:22:51.71
For the church of
Israel, so in both cases
00:22:51.72\00:22:54.55
God has given Israel a probation
00:22:54.56\00:22:58.51
to establish themselves
as a true people of God.
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That's right.
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And so there would have been
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no probationary
period for the church,
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if the probationary
period have been upheld
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by the nation of Israel.
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See, what I'm saying?
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So, if Israel have
fulfilled its purpose,
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it would have been the one,
00:23:15.54\00:23:17.00
the nation to evangelize
the world. That's right.
00:23:17.01\00:23:20.07
And there would have
been no need for a church,
00:23:20.08\00:23:22.38
because it would
have been a nation
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that the Israel
would stayed with them,
00:23:24.11\00:23:26.35
the calling of Israel
to evangelize the world.
00:23:26.36\00:23:29.93
And so we see that,
that it's very clear
00:23:29.94\00:23:32.19
that Israel has already
00:23:32.20\00:23:33.73
always being given to
a people who follow God,
00:23:33.74\00:23:35.92
who keep His covenant.
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And therefore, the church
is under the new covenant,
00:23:37.43\00:23:39.73
because the old
covenant did not succeed
00:23:39.74\00:23:42.20
and that the people
were not willing to do it.
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You find that
in, matter of fact,
00:23:45.05\00:23:46.99
in the book of
Hebrews Chapter 3.
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It talks about the
reason why they fell away.
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They fell away
because of unbelief.
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And they were unwilling.
00:23:55.18\00:23:56.23
And they were
not willing to carry.
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Also Acts Chapter
13 verse 42 to 46,
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where Paul the Apostle
said, it was God's purpose
00:24:00.41\00:24:04.72
that the Gospel
should first be given to you,
00:24:04.73\00:24:07.79
but seeing that
you judge yourself
00:24:07.80\00:24:09.89
unworthy of everlasting life,
lo, we turn to the Gentiles.
00:24:09.90\00:24:14.37
And so the Lord is not
looking for a people that,
00:24:14.38\00:24:17.90
I use this
example, I once had an elder
00:24:17.91\00:24:20.33
and I thank the
Lord for his conversion,
00:24:20.34\00:24:22.77
but he was not the
kind of person at that time
00:24:22.78\00:24:24.99
that whose spirit
was right to do the job.
00:24:25.00\00:24:28.27
And for us sometime
we took him out of office
00:24:28.28\00:24:30.62
and work with him
and I say to this day,
00:24:30.63\00:24:32.41
he is a very
spiritual man, a man of God,
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and I praise the Lord for that.
00:24:34.79\00:24:36.31
But the example I'm
using is this, simply this,
00:24:36.32\00:24:39.70
there are those who
are able to do a job,
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but the Lord is not looking
00:24:43.11\00:24:44.14
for those who
are able to do a job,
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He's looking for those who
are willing to be converted,
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you see, not just those who say,
00:24:48.94\00:24:50.65
I worked for the post office,
and not, those who just say,
00:24:50.66\00:24:52.97
I worked for UPS, but if
you don't carry the message,
00:24:52.98\00:24:56.26
if you don't make sure
the package is delivered,
00:24:56.27\00:24:58.41
the uniform will be taken away
00:24:58.42\00:24:59.74
and given to
somebody else. Yeah.
00:24:59.75\00:25:01.75
And so therefore the
cloak of righteousness,
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the cloak of
choosing was taken away
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and given to somebody else,
00:25:06.39\00:25:07.61
because the Lord
is more concerned
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about getting the message out,
00:25:08.99\00:25:11.66
than just the messenger boasting
00:25:11.67\00:25:13.63
about his special status. Yeah.
00:25:13.64\00:25:15.92
And that was the real
issue there. That's right.
00:25:15.93\00:25:18.29
So I am-- Well, we've
got a good topic today.
00:25:18.30\00:25:20.69
Oh, we should do.
00:25:20.70\00:25:21.71
And an exciting one
on the origin of evil.
00:25:21.72\00:25:25.14
That we probably
should do a topic on Israel
00:25:25.15\00:25:26.84
at some point, now
we're talking about it--
00:25:26.85\00:25:28.58
I know that will
really get the flare going.
00:25:28.59\00:25:30.60
But today is on
the origin if evil
00:25:30.61\00:25:33.58
and all different aspects
to this, of course, to consider
00:25:33.59\00:25:37.01
there is many a
scriptures in the Bible,
00:25:37.02\00:25:38.44
of course, some even
think that God created evil.
00:25:38.45\00:25:40.60
Have you heard that?
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There are people that
blame God for the good.
00:25:41.93\00:25:45.10
They praise God for the good,
they blame Him for the bad.
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It's like the
devil sits back and says,
00:25:48.61\00:25:50.74
he-he-he-he, you know.
00:25:50.75\00:25:54.51
That's right, and I think
00:25:54.52\00:25:55.57
this we often
misunderstand Satan's
00:25:55.58\00:25:58.59
true motive and that he
wants to be like the Most High,
00:25:58.60\00:26:01.13
but he also wants to deflect
00:26:01.14\00:26:02.43
all the negative
attention to God himself.
00:26:02.44\00:26:05.31
His goal is to misrepresent God
00:26:05.32\00:26:07.69
and he has done that
from the very beginning.
00:26:07.70\00:26:08.90
You know, John, the reality is
00:26:08.91\00:26:10.32
and those of you who
are watching the program
00:26:10.33\00:26:11.57
and listening to it.
00:26:11.58\00:26:12.73
The reality is, evil
comes from somewhere,
00:26:12.74\00:26:18.59
good has a
route, evil has a route.
00:26:18.60\00:26:23.57
And sometimes you
see them both manifest
00:26:23.58\00:26:26.83
that different
times in the same person.
00:26:26.84\00:26:29.68
You can see a
person with intense anger.
00:26:29.69\00:26:32.21
You can see a
person with intense joy.
00:26:32.22\00:26:35.15
We're not talking
about emotions here.
00:26:35.16\00:26:37.28
We're talking about
the route of the matter.
00:26:37.29\00:26:39.79
There is a
principle in scripture
00:26:39.80\00:26:40.99
that we'll point
out in little bit,
00:26:41.00\00:26:42.23
but, you know, the
Bible says in Matthew 7,
00:26:42.24\00:26:45.14
I think it's verse
15-16 around that place,
00:26:45.15\00:26:48.01
where a bad tree
cannot bring forth good fruit
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and a good tree can't
bring forth bad fruit.
00:26:50.54\00:26:53.46
So all these evil in the world
00:26:53.47\00:26:55.55
didn't just happen one day,
00:26:55.56\00:26:56.57
because somebody got
their hot chocolate knocked
00:26:56.58\00:26:58.42
over and somebody got angry
00:26:58.43\00:26:59.49
and started
fighting all over the world.
00:26:59.50\00:27:02.36
There is a route to this.
00:27:02.37\00:27:03.60
That's why a baby
that is born so innocently
00:27:03.61\00:27:06.68
and that is an appearance
00:27:06.69\00:27:08.13
can grow up to be
the most tyrannical ruler
00:27:08.14\00:27:10.57
and dictator the
world has ever known.
00:27:10.58\00:27:12.63
Something have taken route
00:27:12.64\00:27:14.73
that grew into the
heart of that child.
00:27:14.74\00:27:16.86
And when you look at
the pages of history,
00:27:16.87\00:27:18.54
John, in the scripture
as well as in man's history,
00:27:18.55\00:27:21.51
it goes back to
regimes, and dictatorships,
00:27:21.52\00:27:24.38
and
hierarchies, and governments,
00:27:24.39\00:27:27.30
and kings, and rulers throughout
00:27:27.31\00:27:29.15
the thousands of
years of man's history
00:27:29.16\00:27:31.47
that evil has been
terrible. That's right.
00:27:31.48\00:27:34.10
Throughout all of our existence,
00:27:34.11\00:27:35.53
so the question is.
00:27:35.54\00:27:36.90
Does it really
matter where it came from?
00:27:36.91\00:27:39.11
Where did they come from?
00:27:39.12\00:27:40.32
Is God the one to blame for it?
00:27:40.33\00:27:42.73
Is the source of evil
just in the heart of man,
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I mean, where does
it all come from? Yeah.
00:27:44.78\00:27:46.70
So we're gonna talk about that.
00:27:46.71\00:27:47.91
And we know that there is
something that comes from God
00:27:47.92\00:27:49.93
and God alone, He
defines Himself. I like that.
00:27:49.94\00:27:52.60
And that's 1st John
4:8, we're speaking,
00:27:52.61\00:27:55.58
when it's spoken of frequently
00:27:55.59\00:27:57.20
throughout the
Bible in various ways,
00:27:57.21\00:27:59.37
but it says that,
"He who does not love
00:27:59.38\00:28:00.91
does not know God
because God is love."
00:28:00.92\00:28:04.54
So simply put, God is love.
00:28:04.55\00:28:06.98
And we know evil
has no love in it.
00:28:06.99\00:28:09.48
Now this is a-- I want
this point to not go over
00:28:09.49\00:28:11.74
their heads
because when I first heard,
00:28:11.75\00:28:13.58
so took me sometime
as simple as I takes,
00:28:13.59\00:28:15.79
does God is
love, is like saying,
00:28:15.80\00:28:18.63
okay, yes, we know God,
I mean, He is a loving God.
00:28:18.64\00:28:23.14
Now when I saying God is loving,
00:28:23.15\00:28:26.28
we're saying, God
can't be anything,
00:28:26.29\00:28:28.11
but loving because He
is love to illustrate that,
00:28:28.12\00:28:31.91
it's almost like saying.
00:28:31.92\00:28:33.42
Well, you know that
water is pretty wet.
00:28:33.43\00:28:37.02
Well, there is no
water, that's not wet,
00:28:37.03\00:28:39.66
there is no such thing as
powdered water. That's right.
00:28:39.67\00:28:42.55
So water that exist is
wet because wet is water.
00:28:42.56\00:28:46.68
Anything that's wet
has water in it. Yeah.
00:28:46.69\00:28:49.59
That is for the most
part, some kind of moisture,
00:28:49.60\00:28:52.33
some ingredient of water
is in everything that's wet.
00:28:52.34\00:28:55.27
And let me take
out a step further.
00:28:55.28\00:28:56.72
Water is made up of what?
00:28:56.73\00:28:58.53
H-hydrogen,
two, two parts of it,
00:28:58.54\00:29:02.26
and oxygen, H2O. Right.
00:29:02.27\00:29:05.05
If you add other things to it,
00:29:05.06\00:29:06.55
it's not water anymore,
00:29:06.56\00:29:08.76
is water plus something else.
00:29:08.77\00:29:10.01
The water becomes
liquid in and of itself
00:29:10.02\00:29:11.99
because it's got
those things. Yeah.
00:29:12.00\00:29:14.59
If you add evil into God's mix,
00:29:14.60\00:29:16.76
He no longer becomes God
00:29:16.77\00:29:18.48
because God is
only love. That's it.
00:29:18.49\00:29:20.80
And so God inherent
of Himself, He is love,
00:29:20.81\00:29:25.01
it's the only thing
that can come from Him.
00:29:25.02\00:29:26.93
And I like that thing
about, you know, the fact that,
00:29:26.94\00:29:28.71
you know, the water is wet.
00:29:28.72\00:29:31.71
Doesn't make sense?
00:29:31.72\00:29:32.69
Of course, it's wet, it's H20.
00:29:32.70\00:29:34.39
I don't wanna go into
the water, why? It's wet.
00:29:34.40\00:29:36.71
I mean, it's sounds
like a ridiculous cliché idea
00:29:36.72\00:29:41.89
or thought, but we have to grab
00:29:41.90\00:29:44.00
that very importantly before
we even dive into the topic
00:29:44.01\00:29:46.69
because people are going to
come up with some comparisons
00:29:46.70\00:29:50.06
and says, and I'm
not using this loosely,
00:29:50.07\00:29:51.83
and I'm not condemning anybody,
00:29:51.84\00:29:53.85
but we have seen
some beautiful people
00:29:53.86\00:29:55.58
in the existence of humanity,
00:29:55.59\00:29:57.35
some beautiful
humanitarians that have done
00:29:57.36\00:29:59.70
some wonderful
humanitarians deeds
00:29:59.71\00:30:02.48
and because of
their goodness people say,
00:30:02.49\00:30:05.38
that naturally
qualifies them for being saved,
00:30:05.39\00:30:08.63
we're gonna be
talking about that.
00:30:08.64\00:30:10.11
Where the is
salvation come from,
00:30:10.12\00:30:11.87
you know, all that to
00:30:11.88\00:30:12.87
and this topic is such a
huge topic it composes so much,
00:30:12.88\00:30:17.40
but we're saying is,
00:30:17.41\00:30:19.70
why other person
may find compassion,
00:30:19.71\00:30:21.79
you know, when a
disaster hits John
00:30:21.80\00:30:23.67
which we've seen so
much in the world today.
00:30:23.68\00:30:25.72
People, the good side of people
00:30:25.73\00:30:27.44
for the most part they come out,
00:30:27.45\00:30:28.47
if a baby is in the water,
00:30:28.48\00:30:30.96
in the car stuck,
in the cars drowning,
00:30:30.97\00:30:32.90
people would put their lives
00:30:32.91\00:30:33.92
on the line to save
that mother and that child,
00:30:33.93\00:30:35.79
and that person who is in
the terrible car accident.
00:30:35.80\00:30:39.03
When the World
Trade Center came down,
00:30:39.04\00:30:40.34
people that never
that talked talked
00:30:40.35\00:30:41.93
and love was exuding in
all of these religions that
00:30:41.94\00:30:44.15
where a park came together.
00:30:44.16\00:30:46.08
It was just love that
just begin to motivate
00:30:46.09\00:30:48.63
the unity that
brought people together,
00:30:48.64\00:30:51.16
that's loving
characteristics. Right.
00:30:51.17\00:30:54.44
But none of that could exist
without the presence of God,
00:30:54.45\00:30:57.78
who is the source of it. Right.
00:30:57.79\00:30:59.29
In other words,
close all the banks
00:30:59.30\00:31:01.37
everybody is broke
00:31:01.38\00:31:02.59
because that's where
the money is coming from.
00:31:02.60\00:31:05.03
You know, when I
think it's misrepresentation
00:31:05.04\00:31:06.84
of God's
character of love-- Yeah.
00:31:06.85\00:31:08.65
That causes us not want
a relationship with Him,
00:31:08.66\00:31:12.08
many out there
in the world. Right.
00:31:12.09\00:31:13.82
They see God and we heard,
00:31:13.83\00:31:14.94
you know, they heard
terms like active God
00:31:14.95\00:31:16.66
and when it
comes to the judgments,
00:31:16.67\00:31:18.32
you know, and the
judgments of God are
00:31:18.33\00:31:20.06
port upon newer
links and these things.
00:31:20.07\00:31:22.79
You know, the way
that they're saying that,
00:31:22.80\00:31:25.79
it's saying that God
crossed all those things
00:31:25.80\00:31:27.87
where somehow was
mean spirited in his attack
00:31:27.88\00:31:30.58
on people because they were
committing sin and so forth.
00:31:30.59\00:31:33.64
And I think judgment
is misunderstood there,
00:31:33.65\00:31:37.37
the way that God judge is.
00:31:37.38\00:31:39.67
Even God's
judgment is righteous.
00:31:39.68\00:31:41.77
It's even loving.
00:31:41.78\00:31:43.29
I mean, think about
that God's judgments is love,
00:31:43.30\00:31:46.00
it's an active love.
00:31:46.01\00:31:47.00
We can talk
about that too forever,
00:31:47.01\00:31:48.40
but just you know, for
just the introductory sake here,
00:31:48.41\00:31:55.01
these horrible
things that happen
00:31:55.02\00:31:56.33
or because God
wants them to happened.
00:31:56.34\00:31:58.77
People suffer
horrible things and they die
00:31:58.78\00:32:00.84
and they go
through the stuff, not
00:32:00.85\00:32:02.03
because it's an
active God. Right.
00:32:02.04\00:32:04.04
Is because there is
an enemy in the world,
00:32:04.05\00:32:06.13
and there is evil in the world,
00:32:06.14\00:32:07.72
and we're looking today here,
00:32:07.73\00:32:09.14
we're gonna look today
at the origin of that evil,
00:32:09.15\00:32:11.94
where do that come from?
00:32:11.95\00:32:13.14
'Cause something
started somewhere,
00:32:13.15\00:32:15.78
and so we could
almost say in the proverb
00:32:15.79\00:32:17.66
the all round about
way which came first.
00:32:17.67\00:32:22.31
Evil or the devil.
00:32:22.32\00:32:23.99
That's a very important question
00:32:24.00\00:32:25.55
because if we say,
that evil came first,
00:32:25.56\00:32:29.91
ooh! I'll let
you think about that,
00:32:29.92\00:32:32.35
but we're gonna go
back to the beginning.
00:32:32.36\00:32:33.78
Let's start in the beginning.
00:32:33.79\00:32:34.89
In the beginning of the
Bible is the Book of Genesis.
00:32:34.90\00:32:38.05
Now before I go to Genesis 3,
00:32:38.06\00:32:41.24
I want to just start out in
the beauty of God's creation
00:32:41.25\00:32:45.39
and we're going
to look at Genesis.
00:32:45.40\00:32:53.49
One twenty-five.
00:32:53.50\00:32:55.07
You want to
look at Genesis 1:25?
00:32:55.08\00:32:57.60
I believe that, actually
let's read 31, it says--
00:32:57.61\00:33:01.79
That's the one I'm
looking at, that's the one--
00:33:01.80\00:33:03.35
It says the same thing,
it says that it was good,
00:33:03.36\00:33:05.27
but 31 does as well.
00:33:05.28\00:33:06.87
Thirty-one, I like the way,
00:33:06.88\00:33:07.85
31 as another
component to it. Yeah.
00:33:07.86\00:33:09.85
Genesis 1 and verse
31, let's begin there.
00:33:09.86\00:33:13.14
"Then God saw
everything that he had made,
00:33:13.15\00:33:15.82
and, indeed it was very good.
00:33:15.83\00:33:18.85
So the evening in the morning,
00:33:18.86\00:33:20.07
were the sixth day".
00:33:20.08\00:33:21.28
Now how many
things that God had made?
00:33:21.29\00:33:22.78
God saw everything, two words,
00:33:22.79\00:33:26.45
everything, very
good. That's right.
00:33:26.46\00:33:29.91
Everything, very good.
00:33:29.92\00:33:33.68
So does God make
everything very good
00:33:33.69\00:33:37.04
and some things not very good,
00:33:37.05\00:33:39.75
that's not what
the text would say?
00:33:39.76\00:33:40.73
Well, one preacher
say, God don't make no junk.
00:33:40.74\00:33:42.87
They carry with it.
00:33:42.88\00:33:44.66
And that's very true,
00:33:44.67\00:33:45.64
everything He makes
is good. Everything.
00:33:45.65\00:33:47.46
And so he, evil,
we know was not good,
00:33:47.47\00:33:50.11
could He have created evil?
00:33:50.12\00:33:51.49
That something
we'll look at as well,
00:33:51.50\00:33:52.70
but it doesn't look like
00:33:52.71\00:33:53.68
we're finding
that evidence here yet.
00:33:53.69\00:33:55.27
Everything it seems to
be that God makes very good.
00:33:55.28\00:33:58.03
Exactly, not evil yet.
00:33:58.04\00:34:00.70
Now I know that through
that creation of good things,
00:34:00.71\00:34:04.00
things that were very good,
but out of that God finished,
00:34:04.01\00:34:07.06
it says, He finished the
work which with He had done.
00:34:07.07\00:34:09.94
Genesis 2 verse 1.
00:34:09.95\00:34:11.49
On the seventh-day, after
proclaiming everything good,
00:34:11.50\00:34:14.33
He created the Sabbath,
00:34:14.34\00:34:15.34
which means the
Sabbath is very good. Okay.
00:34:15.35\00:34:18.37
And then He goes on
from there to talk about
00:34:18.38\00:34:20.36
how Adam and Eve
were put in the garden,
00:34:20.37\00:34:24.04
of course, to tame the
garden and to enjoy life,
00:34:24.05\00:34:26.96
and the fruit of that goodness.
00:34:26.97\00:34:28.85
But then something
else enters the picture.
00:34:28.86\00:34:31.83
And this is the
where we're gonna
00:34:31.84\00:34:32.87
take you through the Bible
00:34:32.88\00:34:33.85
in somewhat of
an acrobatic form,
00:34:33.86\00:34:36.52
not in an acrobatic form
to try to make something fit,
00:34:36.53\00:34:39.62
but to fill in some
obviously significant points
00:34:39.63\00:34:43.77
that do need to be
answered at these points.
00:34:43.78\00:34:46.20
Before we get to Genesis 3,
00:34:46.21\00:34:48.90
we want to show you
some things that happened,
00:34:48.91\00:34:50.27
because you see when God
made the heavens and the earth.
00:34:50.28\00:34:55.22
There was
nothing wrong with heaven
00:34:55.23\00:34:57.01
that's where God dwells.
00:34:57.02\00:34:58.49
We also have the
heavens like the planets.
00:34:58.50\00:35:00.67
You have the heavens
also like where the birds fly.
00:35:00.68\00:35:03.34
Birds don't fly over the moon.
00:35:03.35\00:35:07.56
People remember
that song in years ago
00:35:07.57\00:35:09.71
"Birds fly over the rainbow,"
00:35:09.72\00:35:11.25
maybe they could, but
birds don't fly over the moon,
00:35:11.26\00:35:14.80
birds don't fly over the sun,
they don't fly over Jupiter.
00:35:14.81\00:35:17.62
So you find the heavens,
00:35:17.63\00:35:19.50
where the birds
fly then the heavens,
00:35:19.51\00:35:21.33
the planets, then
heaven where God is.
00:35:21.34\00:35:23.73
And Paul the Apostle refers
to that as the third heaven.
00:35:23.74\00:35:26.62
So there's nothing
wrong with the third heaven,
00:35:26.63\00:35:28.47
but something began.
00:35:28.48\00:35:30.40
A lot of Genesis 3 to now,
00:35:30.41\00:35:33.04
take on the stage that he did,
00:35:33.05\00:35:35.68
in order for
there to be some kind of
00:35:35.69\00:35:37.24
an invaded in God's creation,
00:35:37.25\00:35:39.21
something had to
happen for him to get here.
00:35:39.22\00:35:41.45
So, John, why don't you
go with us to Revelation 12?
00:35:41.46\00:35:44.29
And I want you to open that up
00:35:44.30\00:35:45.67
and read that to our
viewers and our listeners,
00:35:45.68\00:35:49.57
why I look for another passage?
00:35:49.58\00:35:51.79
Revelation 12,
friends is where we're going,
00:35:51.80\00:35:53.59
we're gonna talk
about the beginning
00:35:53.60\00:35:56.10
of something that
continues to this very day.
00:35:56.11\00:36:00.00
We're gonna begin
with verse 7. Okay.
00:36:00.01\00:36:02.81
It says "And war broke
out so we see in Heaven,
00:36:02.82\00:36:05.21
Michael and his angels
fought with the dragon,
00:36:05.22\00:36:07.91
and the dragon
and his angels fought.
00:36:07.92\00:36:10.46
But they did not prevail
nor was a place found for them
00:36:10.47\00:36:13.16
in heaven any longer.
00:36:13.17\00:36:15.38
So the great dragon was
cast out that serpent of old
00:36:15.39\00:36:18.51
called the Devil and Satan,
00:36:18.52\00:36:20.66
and who
deceives the whole world,
00:36:20.67\00:36:22.78
he was cast to the earth,
00:36:22.79\00:36:24.55
and his angels
were cast out with him."
00:36:24.56\00:36:26.76
So we see there that
war broke out first where,
00:36:29.55\00:36:32.40
of all places,
heaven. He started up there.
00:36:32.41\00:36:36.07
War started in
heaven and, of course,
00:36:36.08\00:36:38.07
we know that war
resisted get it by the dragon,
00:36:38.08\00:36:40.10
who is the devil
and also called Satan.
00:36:40.11\00:36:44.04
And so Satan was
the instigator of that
00:36:44.05\00:36:45.81
and it's very
interesting to know
00:36:45.82\00:36:49.13
that although
was started with him,
00:36:49.14\00:36:50.59
it grew pretty, pretty quickly
00:36:50.60\00:36:52.22
Because it says that
the Satan himself had angles
00:36:52.23\00:36:55.32
that fought along side of him.
00:36:55.33\00:36:57.39
And so we know that
and we're told elsewhere
00:36:57.40\00:36:59.93
that the third of the
angles were cast out with him.
00:36:59.94\00:37:02.22
So out of a whole two-thirds
remain word of the God
00:37:02.23\00:37:06.10
and one-third
word deceived by Satan
00:37:06.11\00:37:09.01
into following him and
finding along his side.
00:37:09.02\00:37:11.49
And we have to
come to the inclusion,
00:37:11.50\00:37:12.84
when you read this, it's says
00:37:12.85\00:37:14.10
not only did he not prevail,
00:37:14.11\00:37:15.56
we say praise the Lord,
he didn't win. That's right.
00:37:15.57\00:37:17.50
Because if he had won
00:37:17.51\00:37:18.51
and there wouldn't be
heaven anymore beheld,
00:37:18.52\00:37:20.02
to be very frank about it.
00:37:20.03\00:37:21.75
But you'll find
that he didn't prevail,
00:37:21.76\00:37:25.10
but he did have a
continued residence.
00:37:25.11\00:37:27.52
He got evicted from where he was
00:37:27.53\00:37:29.67
and he got sent
to some place else.
00:37:29.68\00:37:32.08
And it said, he was
cast, Revelation 12 verse 9,
00:37:32.09\00:37:36.05
"He was cast to the earth,
00:37:36.06\00:37:39.61
and his angels
were cast out with him."
00:37:39.62\00:37:43.98
You see, he was kicked
out of where he used to be.
00:37:43.99\00:37:47.39
And so, when we look at
this beautiful scenario,
00:37:47.40\00:37:49.46
we've got almost build around
00:37:49.47\00:37:51.14
a little bit more,
and I know my notes,
00:37:51.15\00:37:52.33
we have some notes
that are not necessarily
00:37:52.34\00:37:54.49
put together in the way
that is starting to flow now
00:37:54.50\00:37:56.71
and I know the Lord is
putting this together. Yeah.
00:37:56.72\00:37:58.62
But now we've to begin to see
00:37:58.63\00:38:00.21
what his
condition was in heaven?
00:38:00.22\00:38:02.93
What was the attitude there?--
00:38:02.94\00:38:03.91
Before he was cast
out, what happened to him?
00:38:03.92\00:38:04.89
Yeah, what was the problem,
00:38:04.90\00:38:05.93
I mean, why do
you get kicked out?
00:38:05.94\00:38:07.20
So let's go to Isaiah,
00:38:07.21\00:38:08.89
we're gonna go to
Isaiah Chapter 14.
00:38:08.90\00:38:11.10
We're gonna see now that,
00:38:11.11\00:38:12.28
first of all,
we went to Genesis,
00:38:12.29\00:38:14.42
now then we go to Revelation,
00:38:14.43\00:38:15.84
noticed the
beginning and the end.
00:38:15.85\00:38:17.22
Now we're gonna go to Isaiah,
and see what was the issue.
00:38:17.23\00:38:20.06
What was the real issue
that he got kicked out over?
00:38:20.07\00:38:23.08
He got kicked up,
but what was the problem?
00:38:23.09\00:38:24.92
And when you
kicks somebody else,
00:38:24.93\00:38:26.64
you got to really have a
good reason to put him out.
00:38:26.65\00:38:29.57
When you put him out any victim,
00:38:29.58\00:38:31.56
you often don't
leave any remnant
00:38:31.57\00:38:35.30
to continue the argument.
00:38:35.31\00:38:37.16
You say, I want you and
your friends out of here. Right.
00:38:37.17\00:38:39.92
You know, the
Lord kicked the Satan
00:38:39.93\00:38:41.45
and his cohorts out of heaven.
00:38:41.46\00:38:44.77
But, why did this
controversy exist anyway?
00:38:44.78\00:38:49.03
He had an attitude problem.
00:38:49.04\00:38:50.76
And the Bible talks
about, why he got kicked out,
00:38:50.77\00:38:53.61
why he fell? That's right.
00:38:53.62\00:38:55.52
John, read starting
in Isaiah 14 verse 12.
00:38:55.53\00:38:58.57
And you'll see
this is the transition
00:38:58.58\00:38:59.91
right from the verse we
just read. That's right.
00:38:59.92\00:39:01.95
As he was cast
out, it says, verse 12.
00:39:01.96\00:39:04.22
"How you are fallen from heaven,
00:39:04.23\00:39:06.80
O Lucifer, son of the morning!"
00:39:06.81\00:39:08.76
It's almost like, it's saying,
00:39:08.77\00:39:09.74
John, so how did you fall
from heaven? That's right.
00:39:09.75\00:39:13.66
"How you are cut
down to the ground,
00:39:13.67\00:39:15.96
you who weakened the nations!
00:39:15.97\00:39:18.19
For you have said in your heart,
00:39:18.20\00:39:19.60
I will ascend into heaven,
00:39:19.61\00:39:21.69
I will exalt my throne
above the stars of God,
00:39:21.70\00:39:24.35
I will also sit on the
mount of the congregation
00:39:24.36\00:39:27.07
on the farthest
sides of the north,
00:39:27.08\00:39:29.41
I will ascend above
the heights of the clouds,
00:39:29.42\00:39:32.10
I will be like the Most High".
00:39:32.11\00:39:36.30
So here Satan, we find not only
00:39:36.31\00:39:40.64
did something occur within him,
00:39:40.65\00:39:42.18
and we'll see that
here in a moment in Ezekiel,
00:39:42.19\00:39:44.50
in his own heart,
but we that in that heart
00:39:44.51\00:39:48.39
he began to exalt
himself above what he was.
00:39:48.40\00:39:52.95
He was a creative
being, he was an angel,
00:39:52.96\00:39:55.65
but he was exalting himself,
as high as the Most High.
00:39:55.66\00:39:59.20
So he wanted to be like God.
00:39:59.21\00:40:01.14
He wanted to take God's place,
00:40:01.15\00:40:03.26
but the Lord said, not today.
00:40:03.27\00:40:07.06
However! However!
00:40:07.07\00:40:08.83
And, but I want to also show you
00:40:08.84\00:40:10.36
the impact of
him being kicked out,
00:40:10.37\00:40:12.05
because the Bible
doesn't only show you,
00:40:12.06\00:40:14.26
what his attitude, wasn't?
00:40:14.27\00:40:16.11
We want to say
that's another cliché,
00:40:16.12\00:40:17.88
he had I problems. Yeah.
00:40:17.89\00:40:19.27
I, I, I, I, I, I, I,
I, I! Now the Lord says,
00:40:19.28\00:40:22.58
no you won't,
you, you, you, you,
00:40:22.59\00:40:24.70
and here's what
the Lord said to him.
00:40:24.71\00:40:26.34
He says, Isaiah 14 verse 15.
00:40:26.35\00:40:29.17
"Yet you shall be
brought down to Sheol,
00:40:29.18\00:40:34.45
that is to the grave,
your ultimate end is the grave,
00:40:34.46\00:40:37.64
to the lowest
depths of the pit."
00:40:37.65\00:40:41.17
There you find
the word introduced
00:40:41.18\00:40:43.08
that you often see repeated
seven times in Revelation,
00:40:43.09\00:40:45.85
bottomless pit the
phrase bottomless pit,
00:40:45.86\00:40:48.05
bottomless pit. That's right.
00:40:48.06\00:40:49.51
When Jesus was casting
00:40:49.52\00:40:50.64
the demons out of the demoniac,
00:40:50.65\00:40:53.08
He send them into a pit.
00:40:53.09\00:40:54.67
When the demons who
describe themselves were legion,
00:40:54.68\00:40:56.78
they were afraid
that Jesus was going to
00:40:56.79\00:40:58.49
cast them into the
abyss. And so you find here.
00:40:58.50\00:41:01.42
He said, no, I'm gonna cast you
00:41:01.43\00:41:02.75
down to the
lowest depths of the pit.
00:41:02.76\00:41:05.40
And then he's gonna talk about
00:41:05.41\00:41:06.97
his continued existence.
00:41:06.98\00:41:08.25
And what kind of
luck Lucifer would have,
00:41:08.26\00:41:10.52
as the world begins to see
the impact of his presence.
00:41:10.53\00:41:13.68
Notice, what he
says in verse 16.
00:41:13.69\00:41:15.99
"Those who see
you will gaze at you."
00:41:16.00\00:41:17.87
And John, we're gonna see this,
00:41:17.88\00:41:19.27
this is gonna be
fulfilled in the near future.
00:41:19.28\00:41:22.39
"Those who see will gaze at you,
00:41:22.40\00:41:23.94
and consider you, saying,
00:41:23.95\00:41:25.93
'Is this the man who
made the earth tremble,
00:41:25.94\00:41:29.19
who shook kingdoms,
00:41:29.20\00:41:30.65
who made the
world as a wilderness
00:41:30.66\00:41:32.80
and destroyed its cities,
00:41:32.81\00:41:34.41
who did not open the
house of his prisoners?'"
00:41:34.42\00:41:38.05
That's why, when
Jesus came in Isaiah 61,
00:41:38.06\00:41:39.94
he says, "The Spirit
of the Lord is upon me."
00:41:39.95\00:41:42.57
And he talked about
letting people out of prison
00:41:42.58\00:41:44.75
not a jailhouse, but
the spiritual prison of sin.
00:41:44.76\00:41:48.75
Satan wouldn't let them out.
00:41:48.76\00:41:50.12
Matter of fact, a
woman who had been bound
00:41:50.13\00:41:51.86
and been bleeding for 12 years.
00:41:51.87\00:41:53.69
And the Bible
says, she was released
00:41:53.70\00:41:55.86
from her prison on
the Sabbath day, you see.
00:41:55.87\00:41:59.10
This one who Satan has
kept bound for this many years.
00:41:59.11\00:42:02.83
The Lord released her
from all of her bleeding.
00:42:02.84\00:42:05.32
The church loosing
its very life force,
00:42:05.33\00:42:07.58
the Lord freed her.
00:42:07.59\00:42:09.10
So right here you see,
00:42:09.11\00:42:10.31
the very attitude that
Satan has is to destroy,
00:42:10.32\00:42:13.93
to corrupt, to imprison,
00:42:13.94\00:42:17.46
and the entire world is
impacted by his existence.
00:42:17.47\00:42:20.36
So let's follow the train now.
00:42:20.37\00:42:22.53
Everything that
God did was very good,
00:42:22.54\00:42:25.15
but while the
creation was taking place,
00:42:25.16\00:42:27.42
there was war in
heaven, Satan got kicked out.
00:42:27.43\00:42:30.66
Go with us to 1st, to 2nd
Peter Chapter 2 and verse 4.
00:42:30.67\00:42:34.44
And John, I know,
you are going to Ezekiel,
00:42:34.45\00:42:36.84
but we're gonna there next.
00:42:36.85\00:42:39.47
I want you to
see, matter of fact,
00:42:39.48\00:42:41.24
go to Ezekiel first,
00:42:41.25\00:42:43.68
and then we're
gonna go to 2nd Peter
00:42:43.69\00:42:45.56
Chapter 2 and verse 4.
00:42:45.57\00:42:47.05
Somebody has
already turned there
00:42:47.06\00:42:48.27
and they are looking at it,
but take us through Ezekiel,
00:42:48.28\00:42:51.02
and let's look
at something here.
00:42:51.03\00:42:52.64
Yes, and I wanted to go here
00:42:52.65\00:42:53.73
because there is
definitely some things that,
00:42:53.74\00:42:55.36
just can be pulled out of here
00:42:55.37\00:42:56.79
and I'm really getting to
the heart of where Satan was,
00:42:56.80\00:43:00.13
where he was coming
from here. Ezekiel 28.
00:43:00.14\00:43:02.52
Ezekiel 28, and we're
gonna begin with verse 12. Okay.
00:43:02.53\00:43:07.81
"Son of man,
take up a lamentation
00:43:07.82\00:43:09.76
for the king of Tyre,
00:43:09.77\00:43:11.52
and say to him,
Thus says the Lord God,
00:43:11.53\00:43:14.16
you were the seal of perfection,
00:43:14.17\00:43:17.19
full of wisdom,
and perfect and beauty.
00:43:17.20\00:43:19.78
You were in Eden,
the garden of God,
00:43:19.79\00:43:22.60
every precious
stone was your covering,
00:43:22.61\00:43:24.29
the sardius,
topaz, and diamond, Beryl,
00:43:24.30\00:43:27.13
onyx, and jasper,
Sapphire, turquoise,
00:43:27.14\00:43:29.35
and emerald with gold.
00:43:29.36\00:43:31.05
The workmanship of
your timbrels and pipes."
00:43:31.06\00:43:33.91
In other words, your
voice. Beautiful voice.
00:43:33.92\00:43:36.33
The Lords
beautiful voice was prepared
00:43:36.34\00:43:38.07
before you on the
day you were created.
00:43:38.08\00:43:39.89
This, I mean, this,
Satan was a worship leader,
00:43:39.90\00:43:42.74
Lucifer was a worship
leader in heaven. That's right.
00:43:42.75\00:43:45.54
"You were the
anointed cherub who covers,
00:43:45.55\00:43:48.61
I established you, you
were on the mountain of God,
00:43:48.62\00:43:51.48
the holy mountain God
and walked back and forth
00:43:51.49\00:43:54.01
in the midst of fiery stones.
00:43:54.02\00:43:55.80
You were perfect in your ways
00:43:55.81\00:43:57.22
from the day you were created."
00:43:57.23\00:43:58.57
So, how was he
created, John? Perfect.
00:43:58.58\00:44:01.32
Perfect, till
iniquity was found in you.
00:44:01.33\00:44:08.38
Perfect, and it is goes on
00:44:08.39\00:44:12.34
once again in verse 17
00:44:12.35\00:44:15.60
now I'll explain verse
16 because matter of fact,
00:44:15.61\00:44:18.30
when I had my
class, I explain verse 16.
00:44:18.31\00:44:22.02
You see, when
you look at verse 16,
00:44:22.03\00:44:24.06
lot of people say,
well, I don't know,
00:44:24.07\00:44:25.43
how to fit that into
this entire scenario.
00:44:25.44\00:44:27.84
Notice, what it says,
00:44:27.85\00:44:28.83
by the abundance of your trading
00:44:28.84\00:44:31.32
you became filled
with violins within.
00:44:31.33\00:44:34.23
You will find Revelation says,
00:44:34.24\00:44:35.87
"The merchants of the
earth have been made rich
00:44:35.88\00:44:39.54
through the
abundance of your delicacies."
00:44:39.55\00:44:42.07
What was this trading all about?
00:44:42.08\00:44:44.22
People trade eternal
life for temporary life.
00:44:44.23\00:44:48.27
They trade eternal joys
00:44:48.28\00:44:51.41
and realities
for temporary riches.
00:44:51.42\00:44:54.16
They are those who make pacts.
00:44:54.17\00:44:56.64
They a pact with evil forces,
00:44:56.65\00:44:59.93
they make a pact with
the enemies of darkness,
00:44:59.94\00:45:02.57
I mean, with enemies of light.
00:45:02.58\00:45:04.67
And so they trade, they trade.
00:45:04.68\00:45:06.47
And what is result of that?
00:45:06.48\00:45:08.12
When you trade
light for darkness
00:45:08.13\00:45:10.41
and good for evil
and truth for era,
00:45:10.42\00:45:13.35
you'll discover
that you will become
00:45:13.36\00:45:15.45
filled with violence within.
00:45:15.46\00:45:17.74
And then it goes on and it says,
00:45:17.75\00:45:18.76
"And you sinned,
therefore I cast you
00:45:18.77\00:45:23.01
as a profane thing out
of the mountain of God,
00:45:23.02\00:45:27.52
and I destroyed
you o covering cherub
00:45:27.53\00:45:30.07
from the midst of
the fiery stones."
00:45:30.08\00:45:32.39
In other words, the Lord says
your position was destroyed.
00:45:32.40\00:45:35.92
You were destroyed
from your position,
00:45:35.93\00:45:37.24
you were kicked out,
and who replaced him,
00:45:37.25\00:45:39.55
the angel Gabriel. That's right.
00:45:39.56\00:45:41.70
He was kicked
out of his position.
00:45:41.71\00:45:43.08
You were evicted,
your job was cancelled.
00:45:43.09\00:45:45.65
In other words, as for as
00:45:45.66\00:45:46.63
you fulfilling
that position was,
00:45:46.64\00:45:48.48
it was taken out you
are no longer walking back
00:45:48.49\00:45:50.56
and forth in the
beautiful presence of God.
00:45:50.57\00:45:52.72
Matter of fact, you
know, what are the reasons
00:45:52.73\00:45:53.90
why he couldn't, John.
00:45:53.91\00:45:55.58
When you loose your covering
00:45:55.59\00:45:57.03
like Adam and Eve did
in the Garden of Eden,
00:45:57.04\00:46:00.13
you cannot exist in the
presence of a loving God,
00:46:00.14\00:46:02.43
who is a consuming fire.
00:46:02.44\00:46:04.62
Because the consuming fire
00:46:04.63\00:46:05.85
who comes from the God of love
00:46:05.86\00:46:07.39
would have consumed
Satan, Lucifer, a long time ago.
00:46:07.40\00:46:12.42
But when he lost the covering
00:46:12.43\00:46:13.60
because iniquity was found
in him he had to be put out
00:46:13.61\00:46:16.08
because he would
have been consumed.
00:46:16.09\00:46:17.80
Now, why didn't God
consumed him right away,
00:46:17.81\00:46:19.34
it's a question, I
know you're gonna bump,
00:46:19.35\00:46:20.60
jump at this too.
00:46:20.61\00:46:22.74
If God had shot him,
00:46:22.75\00:46:24.83
the moment he step out of line
00:46:24.84\00:46:26.53
every one of us would
have served God out of fear.
00:46:26.54\00:46:29.93
Did you hear
that? Not out of love.
00:46:29.94\00:46:32.07
So God had to allow this
accusation to run its course.
00:46:32.08\00:46:38.17
And the accuser of our brethren
00:46:38.18\00:46:40.04
as Revelation 12 says,
00:46:40.05\00:46:41.68
the accuser had to be a masked.
00:46:41.69\00:46:45.71
And the joy would be restored
00:46:45.72\00:46:48.39
to those who have been accused.
00:46:48.40\00:46:50.32
The accuser of our brethren
is cast down the Bible says.
00:46:50.33\00:46:54.52
So God did not get rid of him,
00:46:54.53\00:46:57.37
God allowed sin
to run its course.
00:46:57.38\00:46:59.49
And somebody would say,
00:46:59.50\00:47:01.14
are you going take
the side of the accuser
00:47:01.15\00:47:03.81
when you see what he has done?
00:47:03.82\00:47:06.12
Because his end is coming.
00:47:06.13\00:47:07.45
There is some other
news stuff in here. Go ahead.
00:47:07.46\00:47:09.96
And I didn't
read 16 for a reason,
00:47:09.97\00:47:11.48
but I'm glad, you read it
00:47:11.49\00:47:12.46
because that's
where I was gonna go.
00:47:12.47\00:47:14.41
Notice twice here, it
refers to fiery stones?
00:47:14.42\00:47:17.53
He refers to him,
he refers also to him
00:47:17.54\00:47:19.62
as being the
covering cherub. That's right.
00:47:19.63\00:47:22.68
John, what do you think about?
00:47:22.69\00:47:23.70
When you think about
the cherub that covers?
00:47:23.71\00:47:26.21
The mercy seat.
Okay, the mercy seat.
00:47:26.22\00:47:28.76
The cherubim
over the mercy seat,
00:47:28.77\00:47:30.55
what was in the
Ark of the Covenant
00:47:30.56\00:47:32.55
underneath the mercy seat?
00:47:32.56\00:47:33.84
The law of God. The law of God.
00:47:33.85\00:47:36.02
I want you to turn
with me to Deuteronomy.
00:47:36.03\00:47:38.28
Oh, man, did you see
what happened. Chapter 5.
00:47:38.29\00:47:41.99
Deuteronomy Chapter 5. Okay.
00:47:42.00\00:47:44.67
You know, we're
gonna find out here,
00:47:44.68\00:47:46.01
what Satan's
accusations is here.
00:47:46.02\00:47:48.92
And I think it's something
00:47:48.93\00:47:49.90
that is very important to note.
00:47:49.91\00:47:52.45
You know the box I'm
opening up here, John.
00:47:52.46\00:47:54.91
No point intended.
00:47:54.92\00:47:55.89
Deuteronomy Chapter 5
says this, first of all we see
00:47:55.90\00:47:59.28
the Ten
Commandments of given again.
00:47:59.29\00:48:02.72
They're given again as
the second set to Israel.
00:48:02.73\00:48:06.20
And Israel response, okay,
00:48:06.21\00:48:10.21
and here's what they
say in verse 24. Okay.
00:48:10.22\00:48:14.85
"And you said 'Surely
the Lord our God has shown us
00:48:14.86\00:48:18.05
His glory and His greatness.'"
00:48:18.06\00:48:21.28
Remember, this Ten Commandments
00:48:21.29\00:48:22.42
just been given. That's right.
00:48:22.43\00:48:24.09
"His glory and His greatness,
00:48:24.10\00:48:25.64
and we have heard His voice
from the midst of the fire.
00:48:25.65\00:48:30.27
We have seen this day
that God speaks with man,
00:48:30.28\00:48:32.34
yet he still lives."
00:48:32.35\00:48:34.20
Lucifer, when he
was the covering cherub
00:48:34.21\00:48:37.28
stood a midst
God's fire. That's right.
00:48:37.29\00:48:40.71
Those stones of which he
was to cover were God's law.
00:48:40.72\00:48:45.15
His perfect law, His
beauty, Satan knew as he was,
00:48:45.16\00:48:49.01
his dame became Satan,
00:48:49.02\00:48:50.16
he knew when he fell what
he was doing. That's right.
00:48:50.17\00:48:53.41
So when we say,
why is that the Satan
00:48:53.42\00:48:55.08
couldn't have been redeem,
00:48:55.09\00:48:56.26
but man can, man was deceived,
00:48:56.27\00:48:59.23
but Satan was not.
00:48:59.24\00:49:00.75
Satan dwelled with God,
he knew God's character,
00:49:00.76\00:49:03.09
he dwelled in his midst,
00:49:03.10\00:49:04.18
he was a midst of fiery stones.
00:49:04.19\00:49:05.94
You know, everything about God,
00:49:05.95\00:49:07.03
there was to know about God,
00:49:07.04\00:49:08.32
you could save the he
was God's right hand man
00:49:08.33\00:49:11.07
and when he fell he knew
exactly what he was doing,
00:49:11.08\00:49:14.42
jealousy so filled his heart,
pride so filled his heart,
00:49:14.43\00:49:17.41
that he chose that path anyway,
00:49:17.42\00:49:19.56
and there was no turning back.
00:49:19.57\00:49:21.66
But I just think
it's so interesting here
00:49:21.67\00:49:23.20
that the attacked that he
makes is against God's law,
00:49:23.21\00:49:26.68
and although he's in
the midst of it. Right.
00:49:26.69\00:49:28.66
The fiery stones of God.
00:49:28.67\00:49:30.41
He was covering, he was
the one that protected it.
00:49:30.42\00:49:33.90
That's right.
00:49:33.91\00:49:34.90
And when you say, deceive,
00:49:34.91\00:49:35.99
they want to put
that into context,
00:49:36.00\00:49:37.19
Eve was
deceived, Adam walked into
00:49:37.20\00:49:39.71
with his eye is wide open
00:49:39.72\00:49:41.48
because of his
love for her being
00:49:41.49\00:49:43.09
greater than his love for God.
00:49:43.10\00:49:44.73
And so this deception
00:49:44.74\00:49:45.75
the one that
deceives the whole world,
00:49:45.76\00:49:47.70
yes, all of us
are under deception,
00:49:47.71\00:49:49.46
if we think that
somehow this law of God
00:49:49.47\00:49:52.00
now can be thrown out
00:49:52.01\00:49:53.56
and they could still
be a government of order.
00:49:53.57\00:49:56.16
Lucifer knew that.
00:49:56.17\00:49:58.02
Now call Satan, he knows that
00:49:58.03\00:50:00.34
that's why the very
thing that he was protecting,
00:50:00.35\00:50:03.89
which was inside
the Ark of the Covenant,
00:50:03.90\00:50:06.38
he was
protecting that very thing
00:50:06.39\00:50:08.32
that he now became an
enemy of, law and order.
00:50:08.33\00:50:12.46
Law, he kicked out God's law,
00:50:12.47\00:50:15.05
there is no order where
there is no law being upheld.
00:50:15.06\00:50:17.33
And you have said that
Adam walked right ended
00:50:17.34\00:50:19.66
with his eyes open,
but still he was deceive
00:50:19.67\00:50:21.51
because you see,
Adam, Adam didn't have
00:50:21.52\00:50:23.64
the privilege of
being where Lucifer was.
00:50:23.65\00:50:27.56
So Adam began,
he understood God,
00:50:27.57\00:50:29.55
but there were many
years, I'm sure, Adam and Eve,
00:50:29.56\00:50:31.11
we're gonna grow and to knowing
00:50:31.12\00:50:32.11
who God truly was. Right.
00:50:32.12\00:50:33.88
So even though Adam, you know,
00:50:33.89\00:50:35.18
walked in there with his wide,
00:50:35.19\00:50:36.57
eyes wide open,
knew he was rebelling,
00:50:36.58\00:50:38.82
oh, lot of us do that,
but I don't understand,
00:50:38.83\00:50:41.06
I think, well,
often we don't understand
00:50:41.07\00:50:42.56
the impact of what
we're doing when we rebelled.
00:50:42.57\00:50:45.31
And I think that's
also where Adam was.
00:50:45.32\00:50:47.97
And so two degree here
what we're seeing is that,
00:50:47.98\00:50:50.94
everyone would see, but
they began with Satan himself,
00:50:50.95\00:50:54.14
and Satan knew
exactly, what he was doing.
00:50:54.15\00:50:56.59
And that he got, now I think,
00:50:56.60\00:50:58.25
evil had gotten so
much control of him,
00:50:58.26\00:51:01.81
he began with him in his heart
00:51:01.82\00:51:03.29
that it just took them
over, it consumed them.
00:51:03.30\00:51:06.72
To point where, he
hardly knew what hit them,
00:51:06.73\00:51:09.54
but yet it did
and God did not want
00:51:09.55\00:51:11.95
that door to open to up.
00:51:11.96\00:51:13.35
And I think God even
for knowing everything
00:51:13.36\00:51:16.74
gave Lucifer that
opportunity to know him fully
00:51:16.75\00:51:20.31
dwelling on the mountain of God
00:51:20.32\00:51:21.77
and midst the fiery
stone has been that,
00:51:21.78\00:51:23.03
when that
protects and covers that
00:51:23.04\00:51:25.38
that Ten Commandment
law, those commandments,
00:51:25.39\00:51:28.19
not yet maybe written on stone,
00:51:28.20\00:51:29.76
but represented there
as being the fiery stones
00:51:29.77\00:51:33.04
and in doing so he
give him every opportunity
00:51:33.05\00:51:36.25
he could to have
not taking that course,
00:51:36.26\00:51:39.07
yet he did and
that's the key, John.
00:51:39.08\00:51:41.15
Satan took the course, not God.
00:51:41.16\00:51:44.05
God did not ordain
him to take that course,
00:51:44.06\00:51:45.87
he took it on his own.
00:51:45.88\00:51:47.20
That's right, God did not say,
00:51:47.21\00:51:48.45
this is your mission in life.
00:51:48.46\00:51:50.51
Boy, there's so
much coming out of this,
00:51:50.52\00:51:51.72
I mean, so many
doors have open friends,
00:51:51.73\00:51:53.37
and we have even
touch activity Iceberg
00:51:53.38\00:51:55.02
and outline, but I
want to also go this far
00:51:55.03\00:51:57.97
because who
remember the Bible says,
00:51:57.98\00:51:59.30
iniquity was found in him,
in his heart, in his heart.
00:51:59.31\00:52:04.32
How amazing it is,
that the very thing
00:52:04.33\00:52:08.71
that we say one
iniquity is found in you,
00:52:08.72\00:52:12.87
it is, we're
talking about the center,
00:52:12.88\00:52:14.90
the affection, the heart.
00:52:14.91\00:52:16.99
How amazing it is
that, David the Psalms,
00:52:17.00\00:52:19.19
it says in Psalms 14 verse 1.
00:52:19.20\00:52:21.25
"The fool has said in his heart,
00:52:21.26\00:52:24.96
'There is no God.'"
00:52:24.97\00:52:26.75
See Satan try to
said himself up as God,
00:52:26.76\00:52:29.45
then he came down
and he attacked the very,
00:52:29.46\00:52:32.79
the very words of God.
00:52:32.80\00:52:35.06
And let's now go back
to Genesis, and see this,
00:52:35.07\00:52:38.42
but I didn't mention
Second Peter, didn't I? You did.
00:52:38.43\00:52:41.10
I want to go to Second
Peter Chapter 2 verse 4,
00:52:41.11\00:52:44.78
to see something here
00:52:44.79\00:52:45.76
because Second Peter 2 verse 4,
00:52:45.77\00:52:47.03
we have to see,
yes, they were cast out,
00:52:47.04\00:52:49.07
where were they cast out to.
00:52:49.08\00:52:51.12
The Bible says, they
were cast to the earth.
00:52:51.13\00:52:53.84
Satan and his angels
were cast to the earth.
00:52:53.85\00:52:56.02
Read that for us,
John, if you there already,
00:52:56.03\00:52:57.43
I'm turn into my
beautiful new Bible here,
00:52:57.44\00:53:00.16
I just enjoy it so
much, here it is, okay.
00:53:00.17\00:53:03.22
"For if God did not
spare the Angels who sinned,
00:53:03.23\00:53:05.53
but cast them down to
hell and delivered them
00:53:05.54\00:53:08.70
into chains of darkness to
be reserved for judgment." Okay.
00:53:08.71\00:53:13.64
"For if God did not
spare the Angels who sinned,
00:53:13.65\00:53:15.95
but cast them down to hell."
00:53:15.96\00:53:17.99
That was the word in the
Old Testament we read Shiloh.
00:53:18.00\00:53:20.98
Cast them down to
hell and delivered them
00:53:20.99\00:53:23.69
into chains of darkness
to be reserved for judgment.
00:53:23.70\00:53:26.41
This John, by the
way is the only place
00:53:26.42\00:53:28.10
in the entire Bible
where the word hell comes
00:53:28.11\00:53:30.43
from the Greek word
Taurus, and you'll find
00:53:30.44\00:53:32.94
that's the
spiritual world of darkness.
00:53:32.95\00:53:36.14
Now this is not
some physical place
00:53:36.15\00:53:37.55
that you could drill a
hole in the ground and find,
00:53:37.56\00:53:39.60
but this is an
essence saying that,
00:53:39.61\00:53:41.37
evil is kept
sequestered in the spirit realm,
00:53:41.38\00:53:44.92
you can't see this
battle going on around you,
00:53:44.93\00:53:47.48
but, you know, what's happening
00:53:47.49\00:53:48.84
because that any given moment,
00:53:48.85\00:53:50.96
there is an
influence to do evil,
00:53:50.97\00:53:52.43
there is an
influence to do good,
00:53:52.44\00:53:54.52
and the decision
comes down to us,
00:53:54.53\00:53:56.52
"Choose you this day
whom you would serve,"
00:53:56.53\00:53:59.43
Joshua 24:15,
00:53:59.44\00:54:01.00
"Choose you this day
whom you would serve."
00:54:01.01\00:54:03.33
I think also
Romans Chapter 6 verse,
00:54:03.34\00:54:05.53
let me see, if that's in here,
00:54:05.54\00:54:07.40
Romans Chapter 6 verse 16
00:54:07.41\00:54:09.84
makes a very, very clear that,
00:54:09.85\00:54:12.42
do you not know that the
one whom you choose to serve,
00:54:12.43\00:54:15.34
you become the
servants of the one you obey,
00:54:15.35\00:54:18.09
either to sin unto death
or righteousness until life.
00:54:18.10\00:54:23.46
So when you decide to
yield one way or the other,
00:54:23.47\00:54:26.40
the ultimate benefit
00:54:26.41\00:54:27.97
or the ultimate
penalty is going to ensue,
00:54:27.98\00:54:32.15
you'll either choose to do right
00:54:32.16\00:54:33.98
by yielding to the thoughts
00:54:33.99\00:54:35.50
and the precious
of the spirit of God
00:54:35.51\00:54:38.00
or choose to do evil by yielding
00:54:38.01\00:54:39.80
to the
impressions of the evil one,
00:54:39.81\00:54:41.77
and that's
exactly what happened,
00:54:41.78\00:54:43.44
when this conversation
began at the Garden of Eden
00:54:43.45\00:54:48.16
between the
serpent, and by the way,
00:54:48.17\00:54:51.40
you read Revelation 12 verse 9,
00:54:51.41\00:54:53.66
Satan that serpent
of all call the devil,
00:54:53.67\00:54:57.07
he is all the
same one, the dragon,
00:54:57.08\00:54:58.98
the serpent of
all call, the devil
00:54:58.99\00:55:00.32
and Satan same
one, same description.
00:55:00.33\00:55:02.93
He now begins the conversation
00:55:02.94\00:55:04.64
in the Garden of Eden with Eve
00:55:04.65\00:55:07.31
because that's where he
was kicked out to the earth.
00:55:07.32\00:55:10.53
That's right.
Well, said, well said.
00:55:10.54\00:55:13.22
And we're
developing a line here. Right.
00:55:13.23\00:55:15.67
A theme carry
throughout from the war
00:55:15.68\00:55:17.57
that's in heaven down
to where Satan arrived
00:55:17.58\00:55:20.36
on this earth tempt
and deceive Adam and Eve.
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You know, I don't
think there is no way
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we're gonna cover
the rest to this today,
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but I want to,
let's just do this,
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maybe, of a few commends
00:55:29.64\00:55:30.61
before we wind
down this program.
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Well, I was thinking,
we'll pickup in the next one
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where eve is tempted by Satan
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because we'll see some
things in that temptation
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that come that I
believe lay the ground work for
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his deception of the
whole earth. That's right.
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And so there is
some things in the,
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we can learned from is
to how he approached eve,
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how he deceived eve, and
how eve was taken by him.
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And of course, it was
against the word of God,
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directly, and so that's
would he still does to this day.
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You know, what's amazing?
00:55:57.61\00:55:58.85
He looked at that scenario,
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Satan was called
the son of the morning,
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you have eve and
morning going at it,
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you see, eve and morning.
I never thought about that.
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I never thought about that way.
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And if you want
to really stretch it,
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evening and morning,
there was a controversy
00:56:11.93\00:56:13.94
between light and darkness.
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Darkness, now was once light,
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and the person in the
light soon to become a darkness.
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You see, eve was about
to step in the darkness,
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Satan who is in the light
was kicked out into darkness
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and he was trying to
get somebody as the--
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Saying goes to
start trading places.
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And this is so much behind that,
00:56:31.13\00:56:32.84
but we're gonna, we're
gonna encourage you friends
00:56:32.85\00:56:35.31
because the reason why we would
00:56:35.32\00:56:36.58
talking about this topic,
00:56:36.59\00:56:37.58
the origin of evil is
because we believe that
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God gets blamed to often
for things that He has not done.
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We want to put the blame
00:56:44.98\00:56:46.16
squarely on the head of the one,
00:56:46.17\00:56:48.29
who is solely
response for illness,
00:56:48.30\00:56:50.78
disease,
sickness, suffering, death,
00:56:50.79\00:56:52.63
heart attack, controversy,
00:56:52.64\00:56:54.27
division, hatred, malice, envy,
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and the list goes on
and on and on and on.
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So, John on our next program,
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we're gonna go
back to that topic.
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The origin of evil.
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We're gonna see this thing
unfold in the Garden of Eden
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and what we discover is
going to be amazingly insightful
00:57:08.17\00:57:12.72
and you will see that everything
00:57:12.73\00:57:13.88
that was done there
John in the Garden of Eden
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is still active
today, but we encourage you
00:57:16.41\00:57:18.87
stay in the word
here on House Calls
00:57:18.88\00:57:20.28
because one day,
when the Lord comes
00:57:20.29\00:57:22.29
to make a House
Calls on your family.
00:57:22.30\00:57:24.61
We pray that He
find you faithful.
00:57:24.62\00:57:26.49
If you study His
word, we know that He will.
00:57:26.50\00:57:29.82
God bless you friends,
00:57:29.83\00:57:30.97
and have a good
day in Jesus Christ.
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