Hello friends grab
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God's word together on this
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edition of House Calls.
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Hello welcome to another
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you don't want to forget it
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because this is the
place where we really actually
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use the Bible. My
name is John Lomacang and
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this is my good
friend John Stanton,
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good to have you here today.
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It's great to be here.
I tell you. This is live.
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And this is the saddle to
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the Lord is directing
and guiding, and we want you
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to sit back and
enjoy this program,
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its an exciting one,
its informative and is based
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solely on the word of
God, and before we go any
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further though we always
like to begin our program
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with prayer. So, John
would you have prayer for us.
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Let's do that.
Loving Father its so good
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to be able to open
your word here today,
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and to know that you
are leading and guiding us,
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and directing your
work here on earth,
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and we just pray that you
would provide that blessing,
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blessing of the Holy
Spirit here in our lives today,
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that you will lead and
instruct not only our words,
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but Lord the hearts of
all those who are listening,
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who are open to your voice.
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We thank you for
the blessing and for the
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promise of Jesus, and all
that he is doing in our lives,
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and that he will
come very soon one day,
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and we will be able
to go home with him.
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In Jesus name we pray, amen.
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Amen. Well thank you friends,
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But once again your Bible
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questions do make a
significant impact to what
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happens on this
program. So, we are gonna begin
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with one of
your Bible questions.
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What do we have first John.
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We've got a question
here that is coming from
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Cameroon. Yeah, and I
don't think we had a question
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at least in a
while from Cameroon.
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But it's a good question.
It says I am so grateful
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that I can write to
you at 3ABN and Jesus
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is blessing my life
through your program,
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which is really nice of
them to say. My question
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for you is which message
of the three angels is being
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preached to the world now.
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Do you know the time
period exactly regarding
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the three angels
messages? Been reading of
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Revelation and really
need to know more about this,
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waiting for your response.
Well, why don't we read
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the three angles
messages and then let's read
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Revelation 18, the
other angel that gives
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great light to
that message. Alright.
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Then we can talk a
little bit about that.
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So, we are going
to Revelation 14.
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14 is where we want
to go to. Revelation 14
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and we will start
with verse 6. By the way
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Revelation 14
initially introduces the hundred
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and forty four
thousand, which are called or
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titled God's servants
in Revelation 7, so another
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description there
of the hundred and
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forty four thousand.
These are God servants,
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who preach the last
message to the world
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and we pick them up here
in verse 6 of Revelation 14.
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Regarding the
message what is the content
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of what they are preaching
and so let's begin with
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verse 6, "And I saw
another angel flying in midst
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of heaven, having the
everlasting gospel to preach
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to those who dwell on
the earth, to every tribe,
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nation, tongue and people.
Saying with the loud voice
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fear God and give
glory to him for the hour
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of his judgment has
come, and worship him who made
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heaven and earth, the
sea and springs of water.
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And another
angel followed saying
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"Babylon is fallen, is
fallen, that great city because
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she has made all nations
drink of the wine of the wrath
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of her fornication. Then
the third angel followed them
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saying with a loud
voice "If anyone worships the
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beast and his image and
receives his mark on his
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forehead or on his hand,
he, himself shall also drink
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of the wine of wrath
of God which is poured out
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full strength into the
cup of his indignation.
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He shall be tormented
with fire and brimstone
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in the presence of the
holy angels and in the presence
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of the Lamb. And the
smoke of their torment
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ascends forever and
ever, and they have no rest
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day or night, who
worship the beast and his image,
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and whoever receives
the mark of his name.
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Here is the patience of
the saints; here are those
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who keep the
commandments of God,
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and the faith of Jesus. Okay.
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In there you have the
three angels' messages.
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And its essentially what
the Seventh Day Adventist
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Church has been
preaching now for a hundred
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and sixty years
roughly, and so in the context
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of today this message
has already been preached
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for that amount of time,
and if you want to assign
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some to it you would
say the advent movement
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began to swell and
grow prior to 1844,
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which is when the
message relating to the end
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of time and that date
1844 the twenty three hundred
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year prophecy
was coming to light,
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and as the message
began to be preached,
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you would find the
first angel and the second
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angel swelling up to or
transitioning up to the third
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angel which began to
be preached in 1844 and on
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pertaining not only
to the mark of the beast.
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Some people look at
that primarily as the third
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angel's message, but is
not the essence of the third
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angel is really found
in verse 12 of the patience
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of the saints those
who are faithful to God who
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keep his commandments
in the faith of Jesus.
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Right. And so
message has been preached
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for sometime, and we
have preached all three
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that's been continuing
on, it's not just the third
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angel's message, but if
you want to assign a time
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period to it, those
are the time periods you
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would assign. But
furthermore we need to go
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little step further because
if you look at the context
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of Revelation 14, you
find that the three angels
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messages appear
right before the harvest
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judgment, the great
harvest at the end of the
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world just prior to
the close of probation,
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and that harvest is the
harvest of souls of a great
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multitude who are all of
the earth, all the inhabitants
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of the earth, who
received that message
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and in fact if you look
at the response of that great
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multitude in
Revelation 16, excuse me 15,
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you see that they
respond to especially the first
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angel which is almost
quoted here from verse 3
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of chapter 15, it
says "They sing the song of
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Moses the servant of
God, and the song of the Lamb,
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saying, Great and
marvelous are your works,
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Lord God Almighty;
just and true are your ways,
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thou King of saints. Who
shall not fear you, O Lord,
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and glorify your
name? For you alone are holy
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for all nations shall
come and worship before
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you for your
judgments have been manifested."
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So, you know, fearing
God, giving glory to him,
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and worshipping him for
the hour of his judgment
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has come, they have
received that message
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and they have
followed it. And then of course
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on the heels of that
you have the seven last
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plagues in chapter 16,
so 14 really John is a end
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time of proclamation,
the context here is last,
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very last days proclamation
because it occurs right
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before the harvest
judgment, I mean the harvest
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of the souls that are
invited for the in gathering,
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yes. But then if we
add to that Revelation 18,
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which is the mighty cry, we
refer to it as the loud cry,
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it is in the past been
referred to the loud cry
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of the third angel, but
I'll share quote with you here
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in just a moment, its really
the loud cry of all three.
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But if I read that
here from let's see verse 1,
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"After these things I
saw another angel coming down
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from heaven,
having great authority,
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and the earth was illuminated
with his glory and he
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cried mightily
with a loud voice."
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This is a louder cry that's
why we call it a loud cry.
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Saying "Babylon the
great is fallen, is fallen,
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and has become a
dwelling place of demons,
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a prison for every
foul spirit, and a cage for
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every unclean and hated
bird!" For all the nations
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have drunk of the
wine of the wrath of her
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fornication. The kings
of the earth have committed
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fornication with
her. And the merchants
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of the earth have
become rich through the
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abundance of her
luxury. And I heard another
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voice from heaven
saying, "Come out of her,
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my people, lest
you share in her sins,
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and lest you
receive of her plagues.
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That's adjusted
okay. Yeah and it goes on
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to talk about the
judgment of Babylon
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has it actually fallen,
but I bring that up because
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you find that Revelation
18 and that last call appears
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also right before
the coming of Christ in
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Revelation 19. So,
contextually both are in time.
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Right. And in that
context you can say
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that Revelation 18 when
is that loud cry proclamation
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that it is the
messages of the three angels,
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all three of them
that are repeated. Okay,
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it's not just the third
angel or there isn't just a time
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period assigned to
this, and I wanted to share
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this thought with
you, here is the quote.
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It says a similar work
would be accomplished when
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that other angel
represented in Revelation 18
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gives his
message, the first, second,
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and third angel's
messages will need to
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be repeated. Right.
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So, you know, in that
way it lumps all three
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messages into
that loud cry message,
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it's not just the loud
cry of the third angel only.
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There are all three
that may be proclaimed
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to the world at the end of time.
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So even
contextually there she sees 14
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as well 18 as a
last day proclamation.
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Right, and they are
reaching their crescendo,
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if I could add to
that because what happens
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is you have messages
that are being preached
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that are warning
messages laying the foundation,
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but many of us know the
first time you put up a sign,
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a new sign on the
highway people don't see it,
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so that signs stays
up there day after day,
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day after day, and
sometimes years down the
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road somebody will say
that's a new sign and all
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of a sudden they just
see it for the very first
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time. In that context the
messages of the first, second,
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and third angel had
been preached ever since the
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mid 1800s up until the present.
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But there is a significant
application here because
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you will notice that
the first couple of things
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I want to point out
the first and third angels
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message are
proclaimed with a loud voice,
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but when it comes to
Babylon is fallen, Revelation
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14 verse 8, it
doesn't say with a loud voice
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until you get to
Revelation 18 where it says
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the angel cried
mightily with a loud voice,
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so Babylon is at that
point in its smaller setting.
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I won't use the
word infancy because the
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institution of Babylon a
false worship or false systems
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against Christ, have been
existing through our time,
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but when it comes to
a apostate protestantism
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or churches that
use a title Christian,
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but are not Christian
they are coalescing together,
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they still coming
together, they are still growing
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together, and by the
time you get to Revelation
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chapter 18, they have
all coalesced together.
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Matter of fact if you
look at a picture here in
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Revelation 13, just let
me just show you this very
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quickly. Revelation
chapter 13 and verse 1,
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it says, "I stood
on the sand of the sea,
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and saw a beast
rising up out of the sea,
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having seven heads and
ten horns, and on his horns
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ten crowns, and on
his heads a blasphemous
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name." By the time we
get to Revelation chapter
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17 it shows you
that beast again,
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but this time it shows
you that it's full of names
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of blasphemy. It
now comes to position
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where in Revelation 13
once again in its introductive
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infancy, but then
it grows to coalition.
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So one of the reasons
why Revelation 18 repeats
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Babylon is fallen
is, I like the way that
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Elder Kenneth Cox
said Revelation or Babylon
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is already fallen
in the eyes of God,
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but later on Babylon
is going to fall in the
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eyes of men. Right
now that's why the Lord
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then adds with it, he doesn't
have this in Revelation 14,
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but he adds this
component come out of her my
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people because today
regardless of the denomination
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even if they are not
preaching complete truth God
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says my people are
there, but the other component
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he says I am not
reforming the other movements.
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I am not correcting
the other movements.
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I'm calling my people out
of that because they are part
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of the institution of
Babylon. In other words false
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spiritual worship, they
are not handling the truth.
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So, before Babylon is destroyed,
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I am gonna call my
people out of that,
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and that's what Revelation
18 is all about saying
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come out of her my
people. But anything as you
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want to add to that John.
Well, it's interesting because
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this is the same message
that is given in prophetic
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as a prophetic voice
here in Isaiah chapter 21.
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Okay, Isaiah 21
what. In verse 9, it says
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"Look here comes
a chariot of men,
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with a pair of horsemen,
then he answered and said
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Babylon is fallen, is fallen,
and all the carved images
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of the God has been
broken to the ground."
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So you know this is
something that has been
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prophesized for
sometime, but we find then this
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greater input I like
what you were saying that,
00:14:24.58\00:14:25.74
you know, the first
call is the description
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that it is fallen, but
the last call is come out.
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Right. Because it's
not only it's fallen,
00:14:30.88\00:14:33.11
it's about to take
God's people with it as well,
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so you got to get out now,
and that is the last message
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in this great
proclamation at the end of time,
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also known as the loud cry.
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Right and it comes to that
place because just before I've
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seen pictures of
demolitions and after all of the
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explosives are rig, you
hear the foremen or somebody
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at the site yells
the word all clear.
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They want to make sure
that everything is cleared
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before the building comes down.
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Well the call to come
out of Babylon is some,
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but all clear proclamation.
The Lord wants to make
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sure that the building is
clear of all of his saints
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before he brings it
down and so I thought about
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it that way when I was
sitting here and so it's a
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wonderful message,
but the reason why it has
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also a second application
which you just pointed
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out a moment ago;
the reason why all three
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messages are going to
be repeated because it has
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not only, we are not
only in the time where
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God is reviewing the
life record of his people,
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but when that hour
of judgment does come,
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its going to be repeated.
This is the hour of judgment
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and this is the
hour of God's judgments.
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Also, we will show
later on a different program
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how that builds into free
vision, but why particular
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hour is mentioned as in a
life of Jesus he always said
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my hour had not yet
come, but when the hour
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came he didn't see to
release himself from the bonds
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of those who arrested
him. So, there is an hour
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coming where these messages
take on significance not
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just as a church, but to
the entire world and they will
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believe because of
what's gonna be happening
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in that hour, the
God's judgment hour has come.
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Good. Okay, anything else. No.
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Okay, let me go
to another one here.
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Well I like all the
questions, but I need to lighten
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the moment a little bit
here. I got a little e-mail from
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a lady by the name of
Claudia, and she probably
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thought we never
read this on the air.
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I was very, very
disappointed in the fact that
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someone would really
waste time to comment
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on your hair, well
it's not a salvation issue,
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remember that. We get
all kinds of statements
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and comments and I
thought this was a light
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hearted one to
share for the moment,
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especially from a male listener.
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I do admire you first
for your spiritual knowledge,
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secondly for your sharp
style and dress, thank you,
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and then she puts in
all caps there is absolutely
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nothing wrong with your hair.
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If the commenter had
looked closely enough
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he would have seen
that you are a mixed person.
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As a matter of fact I
thought you are half Indian,
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I wish the commenter
would pay more attention
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to the powerful Bible
studies, and take a lesson
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from your humble,
but sharp dress style,
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that was really nice. I
love you all my brothers
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in Christ, Claudia.
Thank you so much Claudia
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for clearing that up.
We enjoy those comments
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though I have to say
that even those are critical
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in nature, we can get a little
smile out of it and find it
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kind of amusing. I
remember one way back
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when we kind of
started this program about
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my glasses. You know
why does Pastor Stanton
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have to wear the
stylish glasses. You know,
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he shouldn't try to be
conforming to the styles
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of this world and I mean
to me these are just glasses,
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I like the way they look
so I brought them, right,
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but anyway it is fun
to get those comments too,
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so don't stop
sending those and if you feel
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like your heart is in it.
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It is encouraging
that people are watching,
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and they are paying attention
to things that sometimes
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are distraction to
other people, but let me add
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another note here
because there is a person
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that ask the
question, that was the comment
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by the way, that
was not a question,
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thank you for the comment.
But here is the question,
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what do you say is
behind the miracles that are
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happening in churches
today. You know this is a big
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one, and one of
the programs we did,
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we talked about false
Christ, and false prophets
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arising and deceiving
many. But we find one of the
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key elements to deception,
one of the key elements
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is miracles. People are
pill oriented in America,
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not a change in life,
not a change in direction,
00:18:58.67\00:19:02.21
but give me a pill to
overcome whatever my ailment
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maybe, and to a
large extent miracles,
00:19:05.37\00:19:08.04
and miracle services
had become kind of that
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proverbial pill. You
know touch me on my forehead
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and cure me of my heart disease,
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rather than
change my way of life,
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from all the things that
I eat, and all the things
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that I put in my body,
and the way that I abuse
00:19:21.46\00:19:23.72
my God's sanctuary
or God's temple. Give me
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a touch on the head
and clear my arteries,
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and when you look at that
way that's, that is miracles
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not the way that God intent
for them to be. And so one
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of the things I must add
here is in Revelation 16,
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Revelation 16, verse 14,
and since we open the book
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to Revelation today, I must
add this part in Revelation,
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it talks about. And I saw
three unclean spirits verse 13
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of Revelation
chapter 16, "And I saw three
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unclean spirits like
frogs coming out of the mouth
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of the dragon, and out
of the mouth of the beast,
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and out of the mouth
of the false prophet."
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And notice what it
says, for they are the spirits
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of demons performing
signs, another word for signs
00:20:09.67\00:20:12.88
there are miracles,
performing signs or miracles
00:20:12.91\00:20:16.54
which go out to the
kings of the earth and of the
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whole world to gather
them to the battle of the
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great day of God
almighty. When you are person
00:20:21.55\00:20:24.12
that is drawn in by
miracle working you are actually
00:20:24.15\00:20:27.59
setting the stage for the
great deception, the great,
00:20:27.62\00:20:31.89
great satanic
miracle that's gonna come,
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and harvest the world.
So if you ask the question
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what's behind the
miracles, if they are based
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on the word of God,
and they are not the sole
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focal point,
like some evangelists
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setup large stadiums, and
this is gonna be our miracle
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service tonight. And you
find people that are being
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wheeled in there
actually they have ailments
00:20:52.67\00:20:54.52
that are not being
healed, and so really be careful
00:20:54.55\00:20:58.22
if the miracles is the
foundation because many false
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Christ and false prophets
will arise and show great signs
00:21:01.61\00:21:04.57
and wonders in so much
that if they were possible
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they would
deceive the very elect.
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So don't let
miracles to be the foundation
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of your hope,
maybe the word of God.
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The other thing too is
that if you think about the way
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Satan works, and I'll
just give you one example,
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and then I'll give
my actual example. Sure.
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The first one is that,
you know, people say well
00:21:24.13\00:21:25.82
these spirits and mediums
are crystal ball, you know,
00:21:25.85\00:21:30.57
soothsayers, you can go
and they will tell you things
00:21:30.60\00:21:35.04
that are really true,
and think of this from
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Satan's perspective,
this is not too difficult.
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For a medium, who
is in contact with him
00:21:41.29\00:21:43.87
and depending upon his
voice to give him direction.
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When this person is
asking for some information
00:21:47.70\00:21:49.79
about their life, its
very easy for Satan who already
00:21:49.82\00:21:53.55
has a host of
demons and angels who know
00:21:53.58\00:21:57.46
exactly what's going on
in this person's life to feed
00:21:57.49\00:22:00.09
the medium
information about that person,
00:22:00.12\00:22:02.62
and then that person says
well this is going on your
00:22:03.22\00:22:05.10
life and you have
such and such friend
00:22:05.13\00:22:06.58
and they are like amazed,
00:22:06.61\00:22:07.87
but Satan's like this
is too easy. Right, it is.
00:22:08.53\00:22:11.03
It's not a difficult
thing for Satan to work through
00:22:11.74\00:22:15.34
a person, to
create amazement or wonder
00:22:15.37\00:22:19.40
in the world through
miracles or these signs.
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But now think of it in
terms of sickness and disease
00:22:23.13\00:22:26.02
you know Satan is the
one that levies or brings
00:22:26.05\00:22:29.80
upon mankind its
sickness, its disease,
00:22:29.83\00:22:32.40
and so when he sees the
fit, he sees fit to remove
00:22:33.85\00:22:37.43
that disease from
someone and make it appear
00:22:37.46\00:22:40.03
as if they have been
healed. So, then people
00:22:40.06\00:22:42.71
follow after this one
that he is doing these
00:22:42.74\00:22:45.41
miracles through.
Right. He can do that.
00:22:45.44\00:22:47.79
So someone claiming to
heal some others with miracle,
00:22:47.99\00:22:51.16
the miracles of
healing, you know, powers,
00:22:51.19\00:22:53.27
Satan can easily withdraw
the illness or something
00:22:54.07\00:22:57.90
from someone to
make it appear as though
00:22:57.93\00:22:59.92
God is doing a miracle,
and then in effect he is being
00:22:59.95\00:23:02.94
worshipped because then
people are in wonder are
00:23:02.97\00:23:05.76
following after
what has just happened,
00:23:05.79\00:23:07.67
and the sign that was
just given, so these things
00:23:08.41\00:23:11.41
that we see that
seems so miraculous,
00:23:11.44\00:23:13.39
Satan has an easy time
using those to deceive.
00:23:14.80\00:23:17.84
Yeah. So, we have to
be very, very careful that
00:23:18.59\00:23:21.22
what we are seeing that
the signs that we are seeing,
00:23:21.25\00:23:24.36
they were testing
them to see whether or not
00:23:24.39\00:23:26.72
they are of God or if the
enemy is doing these things,
00:23:26.75\00:23:29.56
and it has more to
do with what they say,
00:23:29.59\00:23:33.01
what they testify in
their words according
00:23:33.04\00:23:37.01
to the word of God than
the miracles they are doing.
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Right. The word is more
important than the miracles.
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That's true.
This is the key point;
00:23:42.65\00:23:44.75
this is the key
thing I want to share.
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Because the religious
leaders of the day of Christ
00:23:47.94\00:23:50.70
said to him, show us a
miracle, show us a sign,
00:23:50.73\00:23:54.63
and he said to them a
wicked and adulterous generation
00:23:54.66\00:23:58.36
seeks after sign. So don't
let that to be the foundation
00:23:58.39\00:24:01.86
of your hope. One quick
question here John it says
00:24:01.89\00:24:04.53
that my church does not
seem to care about how the
00:24:05.55\00:24:08.08
members dress themselves.
Just this Sabbath was amazing
00:24:08.11\00:24:13.13
to see how people are
dressed. My question is isn't
00:24:13.16\00:24:16.93
part of the pastors'
responsibility to address
00:24:16.96\00:24:19.60
that issue. It seems that
the world is coming to the
00:24:19.63\00:24:22.65
church imposing its worldly
traditions. Well, I could
00:24:22.68\00:24:27.87
understand what they
mean by that because whenever
00:24:27.90\00:24:31.10
we talk about standards
that's a very loose term
00:24:31.13\00:24:36.03
because it has many, it
shoulders, it's like a tray
00:24:36.06\00:24:40.40
that holds up many glasses
of water, you have the water
00:24:40.43\00:24:44.00
of dress, you have
the water of witnessing,
00:24:44.03\00:24:47.52
you have the water of
modesty. So in this case
00:24:47.55\00:24:51.95
I would refer to this
as the water of modesty.
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We really do and John
you may have heard and I have
00:24:54.53\00:25:00.40
as a marriage
counselor and as a pastor.
00:25:00.43\00:25:02.53
Sometimes, I have to
deal with members in church
00:25:03.26\00:25:05.17
who have gotten themselves
in trouble with the person
00:25:05.20\00:25:09.11
of the opposite sex because
of their provocative mindset,
00:25:09.14\00:25:15.52
and let me give example to
that or explanation to that.
00:25:15.55\00:25:19.80
There are some
individuals that would say,
00:25:19.83\00:25:22.05
its hard for me to come to
church because the way that
00:25:22.08\00:25:24.32
women dress, because it
takes my mind away from what
00:25:24.35\00:25:29.33
the Lord is trying to
reveal to me when I see
00:25:29.36\00:25:32.07
so and so walk past me
because of the way that they
00:25:32.10\00:25:34.57
have cloth
slightly or slightly clad,
00:25:34.60\00:25:37.57
I am using a word not loosely,
and then you go to certain
00:25:37.60\00:25:41.00
parts of the country
for example if you go away
00:25:41.03\00:25:44.07
to the Midwest or the
North Midwest of the country,
00:25:44.10\00:25:47.85
where its really cold
at certain times a year,
00:25:47.88\00:25:49.64
people are gonna be
very, very well dressed,
00:25:49.67\00:25:51.23
but if go down to some
of the places further South
00:25:51.26\00:25:54.04
along the borders or
down way in South Florida,
00:25:54.07\00:25:57.37
where its warm almost
all year along and then
00:25:57.40\00:26:00.11
hot at certain times,
people tend to dress a lot less.
00:26:00.14\00:26:03.19
So if you are living in one
of those areas and sometimes
00:26:03.22\00:26:06.54
this is not always based
on the area, but sometimes
00:26:06.57\00:26:09.42
is based on the mindset
of the people in that area,
00:26:09.45\00:26:11.44
you have to be really be
careful because there are
00:26:11.47\00:26:13.62
two evils that exists
one is the way that the man
00:26:13.65\00:26:16.48
looks at a woman. Bible
says if a man looks at her
00:26:16.51\00:26:19.64
to lust after her, he
has committed adultery
00:26:19.67\00:26:20.87
in his heart already, but
secondly a woman has to dress
00:26:20.90\00:26:23.82
in such a way that she
has to not activate or even
00:26:23.85\00:26:27.96
advertise or make
herself appear to be immodest
00:26:27.99\00:26:32.75
when she comes to the
house of God to worship,
00:26:32.78\00:26:35.27
and so that's very delicate
issue, because I have seen
00:26:35.30\00:26:38.41
people turned off by
that. I have seen people
00:26:38.44\00:26:40.81
offended heavily by that.
For example one of the terrible
00:26:40.84\00:26:44.38
ways of approaching the
situation like this was one
00:26:44.41\00:26:46.18
of the elders, a group
of elders got together,
00:26:46.21\00:26:48.61
not at my church praise
the Lord, but there was a
00:26:48.64\00:26:51.49
young lady who just come
into the church didn't know
00:26:51.52\00:26:54.27
much about the church,
but I guess she was wearing
00:26:54.30\00:26:57.01
the clothing that
she was used to wearing.
00:26:57.04\00:26:58.86
And they decided
they were gonna go ahead
00:26:58.89\00:27:01.99
and give her a new dress
and so these men got together,
00:27:02.02\00:27:04.56
these elders got
together purchased a dress,
00:27:04.59\00:27:06.84
unbenounced to the
pastor of that church,
00:27:06.87\00:27:08.91
and when this young lady
walked into the floor they
00:27:08.94\00:27:11.01
presented her with this
dress that they proceeded
00:27:11.04\00:27:13.50
to say we would like you
to wear this when you come
00:27:13.53\00:27:15.87
to church because the way
you dress is not appropriate.
00:27:15.90\00:27:18.50
Well, it took a long
time before that young lady
00:27:18.53\00:27:21.56
came back, they almost
lost her. So you have to be
00:27:21.59\00:27:24.33
very delicate about
the way you approach
00:27:24.36\00:27:25.98
these topics. However,
I'll say it in the way one of my
00:27:26.01\00:27:29.48
favorite preacher
said, I won't give his name,
00:27:29.51\00:27:31.46
but he said when you
are converted, when you are
00:27:31.49\00:27:35.16
walking with the Lord,
the issues of modesty will not
00:27:35.19\00:27:39.80
become an issue in your
life any longer because you will
00:27:39.83\00:27:43.14
realize that you are
worshipping the Lord and you
00:27:43.17\00:27:45.68
come before him in
modest apparel 1 Timothy 2:9.
00:27:45.71\00:27:49.42
Likewise also that the
women adorn themselves in
00:27:49.45\00:27:53.80
modest apparel, so
don't follow the fashions
00:27:53.83\00:27:56.96
of the world, some
of them blows very, very
00:27:56.99\00:28:00.45
short skirt, very,
very high arching heels,
00:28:00.48\00:28:03.08
low cut tops and some
of the young men that come
00:28:03.83\00:28:05.82
to church and they
are standing on the stage
00:28:05.85\00:28:07.29
singing songs, they
say its difficult for me,
00:28:07.32\00:28:10.06
and some of these
college student men,
00:28:10.09\00:28:12.29
young men in the church,
and so young ladies please
00:28:12.32\00:28:16.19
be modest in your
approach to worshipping the Lord
00:28:16.22\00:28:19.06
and I believe that
you will be blessed by it,
00:28:19.09\00:28:22.28
and there will be no
stumbling block before
00:28:22.31\00:28:24.26
the young men that are there
00:28:24.29\00:28:26.53
for the same purpose of worship.
00:28:26.56\00:28:27.89
Yeah and that's
really good counsel,
00:28:28.89\00:28:31.16
and there is another
site to this as well,
00:28:31.92\00:28:34.02
that I think we also need
to whether it's man or woman
00:28:34.05\00:28:40.04
as we consider the
issue of dress and modesty,
00:28:40.07\00:28:44.08
that we also do some
investigation of our own lives
00:28:44.11\00:28:48.88
because there could
also be an issue that this,
00:28:49.72\00:28:54.18
the attraction to
someone dress slightly immodest
00:28:56.33\00:28:59.11
is an issue with you
as well as the person
00:29:00.50\00:29:02.92
that is being immodest. Right.
00:29:02.95\00:29:04.54
And so I've had this
saying, I say over and over
00:29:05.50\00:29:08.10
again, and I use it, in
fact if you ask my current
00:29:08.13\00:29:12.17
congregation in standpoint,
what is the most frequent
00:29:12.20\00:29:15.38
thing that your pastor
says, and he says they would,
00:29:15.41\00:29:18.43
I must probably most of
them would say judge yourself
00:29:18.46\00:29:22.40
extend mercy to others,
that's the most frequent
00:29:22.43\00:29:26.17
comment that I say
because we like to do the exact
00:29:26.20\00:29:28.85
reverse. We like judge others,
extend mercy to our self.
00:29:28.88\00:29:31.80
Very good. So, what I am
saying is examine yourself
00:29:31.83\00:29:34.60
to see may be if there
is some sin in there or
00:29:34.63\00:29:37.92
something that isn't
been quite rooted out,
00:29:37.95\00:29:39.74
the Lord needs to deal
with you on in that you are
00:29:39.77\00:29:42.15
very attractive or very
prone to looking at women
00:29:42.18\00:29:45.66
in certain ways.
Right. Because I can tell you
00:29:45.69\00:29:48.02
there are men
around that can see a woman
00:29:48.05\00:29:51.57
dress immodestly and
not think an issue of it.
00:29:51.60\00:29:54.12
But notice what you just said,
00:29:54.15\00:29:56.41
they see her
dress immodestly. Right.
00:29:56.44\00:29:58.23
So that's what we
are talking about try not
00:29:58.26\00:29:59.81
to dress immodestly.
No, I'm speaking of the
00:29:59.84\00:30:01.83
other side though.
Okay. Okay, I am talking about
00:30:01.86\00:30:03.67
we shouldn't dress
immodestly if someone has
00:30:03.70\00:30:06.01
dressed immodestly
there are men who see that
00:30:06.04\00:30:08.60
immodest dress, and
wouldn't think anything
00:30:08.63\00:30:10.50
of it. So, what I am
saying here is from both sides
00:30:10.53\00:30:12.93
dress modestly, don't
make it a stumbling block
00:30:12.96\00:30:16.50
between you and then
the men especially in that
00:30:16.53\00:30:20.39
church, because men
are very visually oriented.
00:30:20.42\00:30:22.53
At the same time men
see if there is something
00:30:23.20\00:30:25.33
within you that the Lord
needs to work on his wealth
00:30:25.36\00:30:27.75
to not be attracted or
not be drawn to that because
00:30:27.78\00:30:31.03
come on if we have
been in that world,
00:30:31.06\00:30:32.83
if you come out of the world
the world is very much sex,
00:30:32.86\00:30:35.65
drugs, and rock n roll,
and that's what you're used
00:30:35.68\00:30:37.97
to doing, and so that's
why we see dress immodestly,
00:30:38.00\00:30:40.47
but also Lord see if
there is any wicked way in me,
00:30:40.50\00:30:43.19
root that out. So, I am
not judgmental or cautious
00:30:43.22\00:30:46.03
critical, but I am
patience understanding toward
00:30:46.06\00:30:48.81
others as well. You
mean dress modestly.
00:30:48.84\00:30:50.42
I mean both. Okay,
I mean dress modestly,
00:30:51.41\00:30:54.29
and examine yourself.
And you know this is not
00:30:54.32\00:30:57.85
just a women's issue
too because we talked about,
00:30:57.88\00:30:59.85
I was over in Australia
where some of the people
00:30:59.88\00:31:02.53
said that the young men
come to church like they
00:31:02.56\00:31:04.09
are on their own way to
a beach, the flip flops,
00:31:04.12\00:31:07.00
and you know the hang
loose shirt, you know,
00:31:07.03\00:31:10.24
and shorts like they are
on their own way to go serve
00:31:10.27\00:31:13.81
after church. So it'
applies to the way that men come
00:31:13.84\00:31:17.42
to church. Some guys
they said come to church
00:31:17.45\00:31:20.03
with their shirts unbutton
all the way down half way
00:31:20.06\00:31:22.12
just to show
their chest, you know,
00:31:22.15\00:31:24.20
because they wanna
impress the young ladies.
00:31:24.23\00:31:26.19
So, when you think
that the issue of modesty
00:31:26.81\00:31:29.67
is something that
just applies to women,
00:31:29.70\00:31:31.94
it applies to
everybody across the board.
00:31:31.97\00:31:33.71
We used to have
this spring word;
00:31:33.74\00:31:35.16
you wear your Sabbath dress.
00:31:35.19\00:31:36.26
Yeah, it was never an
issue in Sabbath dress.
00:31:37.09\00:31:38.97
You know you are
looking in your wardrobe this
00:31:39.00\00:31:41.07
is my best out, this is
the one I wear to church.
00:31:41.10\00:31:43.37
Right. And now it's
like, oh, let's just pick this
00:31:43.79\00:31:46.43
and I think there does
need to be more consideration
00:31:46.46\00:31:48.91
as to what we are
brining to church.
00:31:48.94\00:31:50.78
And the world has a greater
influence today on the church,
00:31:50.81\00:31:54.05
instead of a church having
greater influence on the world
00:31:54.08\00:31:57.78
and the extremes of
that is in certain parts
00:31:58.46\00:32:01.28
of the world where
somebody, I was just talking
00:32:01.31\00:32:05.02
to somebody who
just came back from
00:32:05.05\00:32:06.40
Saudi Arabia, they
said we often think
00:32:06.43\00:32:09.61
of segregation in the
sense of men and women,
00:32:09.64\00:32:12.31
but the major reason why
women worship differently
00:32:12.34\00:32:16.36
in a mosque than with
the men is because when they
00:32:16.39\00:32:19.39
worship they said
they don't want any
00:32:19.42\00:32:22.53
distractions whatsoever.
So, they separate themselves
00:32:22.56\00:32:25.65
for the purpose of
modesty. So anyway thank you
00:32:25.68\00:32:29.09
so much for the question,
but it's time for us to go
00:32:29.12\00:32:31.43
into our topic for today,
and by the way if you have
00:32:31.46\00:32:34.23
many more questions
you like to send to us,
00:32:34.26\00:32:35.52
you can send them
to housecalls@3abn.org,
00:32:36.93\00:32:40.22
that's housecalls@3abn.org
and we will try to be
00:32:40.25\00:32:44.41
as faithful as we can.
You notice we try to do a
00:32:44.44\00:32:46.88
thorough job on our questions.
So if yours have not been
00:32:46.91\00:32:49.98
covered at this program,
you may want to resubmit that
00:32:50.01\00:32:53.50
because even though
we try our best to make
00:32:53.53\00:32:57.09
our e-mail spam free,
well the devil tries to find,
00:32:57.12\00:33:01.58
he gets in sometimes,
and we get hundreds of
00:33:01.61\00:33:04.07
e-mails and we got
to read through that.
00:33:04.10\00:33:06.76
I say for every now for
every twenty e-mails there
00:33:07.35\00:33:10.70
is one question
that's being asked.
00:33:10.73\00:33:12.48
Yeah, there is so
much garbage gets in,
00:33:12.51\00:33:15.65
I don't know how the
devils like a hole in the
00:33:15.86\00:33:17.57
e-mail system, but
the garbage gets in there.
00:33:17.60\00:33:19.67
But our topic today we
are gonna be talking about
00:33:20.45\00:33:22.40
is the millennium, I
remember in 1999 when
00:33:22.43\00:33:26.50
I was doing a series
with Doug Batch in New York,
00:33:26.53\00:33:28.23
the millennium of
prophecy. One of my greatest
00:33:28.26\00:33:31.13
fears was that word
millennium because it's a tongue
00:33:31.16\00:33:33.71
twister. So, I have to
welcome the audience by saying
00:33:33.74\00:33:36.96
welcome to the
millennium of prophecy.
00:33:36.99\00:33:39.43
So, instead of saying that
word in one like millennium,
00:33:40.15\00:33:43.09
I just decided let me
put some inflection on it so
00:33:44.16\00:33:46.32
millennium and I was
able to make it through,
00:33:46.35\00:33:49.32
it was terrifying though.
00:33:49.35\00:33:50.44
Yeah you can say
like milli-annum.
00:33:50.47\00:33:52.46
But in short the
word millennium means
00:33:55.03\00:33:57.45
thousand years, and
the Bible says quiet a bit
00:33:57.48\00:34:00.85
about the thousand
years of Revelation.
00:34:00.88\00:34:02.35
There are three
different schools,
00:34:02.38\00:34:05.44
and I just want to stop
by listing those schools.
00:34:05.47\00:34:08.09
You have the
pre-tribulation premillennist,
00:34:08.12\00:34:12.22
you have the
post-tribulation premillennist,
00:34:12.25\00:34:16.62
you have the
post-tribulation postmillennist,
00:34:16.65\00:34:21.11
and you have the a millennist,
00:34:21.14\00:34:23.68
try to remember that
early in the morning and then
00:34:24.75\00:34:27.63
is another schools
here that just are probably
00:34:27.66\00:34:31.25
very minor in their
support, but the pre, the post,
00:34:31.28\00:34:35.16
and the a before the millennium,
00:34:35.19\00:34:37.15
during the millennium,
after the millennium,
00:34:37.18\00:34:40.41
or before the millennium
after the tribulation,
00:34:40.44\00:34:44.33
or before the tribulation
before the millennium
00:34:44.54\00:34:47.35
that's pre tribulation
pre-millennialism. Right.
00:34:47.38\00:34:51.17
Or post-tribulation
pre-millennialism,
00:34:51.70\00:34:54.39
and now that you
are completely confused
00:34:54.42\00:34:56.36
we are going to go to
Revelation 1 and read about
00:34:57.99\00:35:00.20
the millennium. Well
we are going to go to 1
00:35:00.23\00:35:02.02
Thessalonians first
Alright. And the reason
00:35:02.05\00:35:04.09
we are gonna do that
is because the millennium
00:35:04.12\00:35:05.62
is connected absolutely
to the appearance of Christ.
00:35:05.65\00:35:09.82
Okay. And I say that
because when you are talking
00:35:09.85\00:35:13.59
about you know pre-millennium,
00:35:13.62\00:35:16.69
post-millennium,
pre-tribulation,
00:35:16.72\00:35:19.43
post-tribulation, all
stuff basically what you are
00:35:19.46\00:35:21.91
doing is you are
putting Christ visible appearing
00:35:21.94\00:35:24.39
on one or the other side
of this thousand year event.
00:35:24.42\00:35:27.73
Right. Or one or after,
before after the tribulation
00:35:28.30\00:35:32.05
period and so we want
to not only talk about
00:35:32.08\00:35:35.37
a place the
millennium and the tribulation,
00:35:35.40\00:35:38.76
we want to place the
appearance of Christ.
00:35:38.79\00:35:40.50
And so as John reads
this, but I wanna set up
00:35:41.32\00:35:43.37
and let you know is we
are Seventh Day Adventists
00:35:43.40\00:35:47.41
are
post-tribulation premillennists.
00:35:47.44\00:35:51.38
We believe that Jesus is
coming after the tribulation,
00:35:52.19\00:35:54.41
and before the
thousand years begin.
00:35:54.44\00:35:56.64
That's right. Just so
that we can sort that out,
00:35:56.67\00:35:59.17
so you don't have to
try to wrack your brain
00:35:59.20\00:36:01.73
which one are they.
Go and read it for us
00:36:01.95\00:36:03.50
and tell us
what text you are at.
00:36:03.53\00:36:05.23
I am at 1
Thessalonians chapter 4,
00:36:05.26\00:36:07.81
and I am going to be
reading 15 onward. Okay.
00:36:09.39\00:36:14.54
For this we say to you
by the word of the Lord
00:36:16.51\00:36:19.25
that we who are alive
and remain until the coming
00:36:20.24\00:36:23.66
of the Lord, will by
no means precede those who
00:36:23.69\00:36:26.19
are at asleep. Okay.
00:36:26.22\00:36:27.78
For the Lord Himself
will descend from heaven
00:36:27.81\00:36:30.15
with a shout, with
the voice of an archangel,
00:36:30.18\00:36:32.62
and with the trumpet of
God; and the dead in Christ
00:36:32.65\00:36:36.71
will rise first. Then
we who are alive and remain
00:36:36.74\00:36:41.89
shall be caught up
together with them in the clouds
00:36:41.92\00:36:44.89
to meet the Lord in the
air, and thus we shall always
00:36:44.92\00:36:47.98
be with the Lord. So
some things in this verse that
00:36:48.01\00:36:51.78
we really need to pull
out here before we get to
00:36:51.81\00:36:53.67
the millennium. And the
first thing is that Paul
00:36:53.70\00:36:57.60
is writing to the
church in thessaloniki, okay.
00:36:57.63\00:37:00.46
He is writing to the
church which are the saints
00:37:00.49\00:37:04.85
and he is telling them
with regard to those who
00:37:04.88\00:37:08.83
sleep in Jesus, their
loved ones, their friends,
00:37:08.86\00:37:11.79
their family members
who have passed away before.
00:37:11.82\00:37:14.04
Right. That they will
all have a great reunion
00:37:14.07\00:37:17.75
at Christ visible appearing
when he comes with a shout
00:37:17.78\00:37:21.29
with a voice of archangel
with the trumpet of God,
00:37:21.32\00:37:24.15
when he comes visibly in
clouds of glory with all his
00:37:24.18\00:37:27.25
angels that those
who sleep in Jesus along
00:37:27.28\00:37:30.17
with those who are alive
at the time of his coming
00:37:30.20\00:37:32.25
in the church will
meet the Lord in the air
00:37:32.28\00:37:34.53
and they will then
go to be with the Lord.
00:37:34.56\00:37:36.89
Okay, let me add
something to that as you go on.
00:37:37.39\00:37:38.79
You will find as you
look at that text and we then
00:37:39.51\00:37:41.06
read verse 13 and 14,
but in every passage 13,
00:37:41.09\00:37:44.45
14 and 15 you find the
word sleep. So for those
00:37:44.48\00:37:48.17
of you who will come from
the denomination that don't
00:37:48.20\00:37:50.78
believe in the fact
that people are asleep when
00:37:50.81\00:37:54.07
they die, the Bible is
reinforcing that over and
00:37:54.10\00:37:57.43
over and over and
over again sleep in Jesus,
00:37:57.46\00:38:00.19
those who asleep, don't
sorrow as those who have
00:38:00.22\00:38:02.88
no hope. If we
believe that concerning those
00:38:02.91\00:38:05.42
as it says in verse 13
concerning those who have
00:38:05.45\00:38:08.41
fallen asleep. In verse
14, God will bring with those
00:38:08.44\00:38:11.99
who sleep in Jesus. In
verse 15, those who are alive
00:38:12.02\00:38:15.40
will by no means
precede those who are asleep,
00:38:15.43\00:38:17.88
over and over again it
shows that death is a sleep
00:38:17.91\00:38:20.94
and in Jesus' own
words in John chapter 11,
00:38:21.64\00:38:23.79
he said plainly about Lazarus
who was sick and had died.
00:38:24.78\00:38:27.65
He said to his
disciples Lazarus is sleeping,
00:38:27.68\00:38:29.64
but I am gonna go
and I wake him up. Right.
00:38:29.67\00:38:31.64
And they thought
that Lazarus was at home
00:38:31.67\00:38:33.28
getting some rest and
recovering, but Jesus said
00:38:33.31\00:38:36.21
plainly Lazarus is dead.
So Jesus in his own words
00:38:36.24\00:38:39.79
connected sleep
and death together,
00:38:39.82\00:38:41.65
and the reason why he
does that as we go on further
00:38:41.68\00:38:44.96
in the program you will
discover that the second
00:38:44.99\00:38:46.90
death is not sleep. Right.
The first death is because
00:38:46.93\00:38:50.80
everyone is gonna be awakened,
00:38:50.83\00:38:52.15
second death is called death.
00:38:52.18\00:38:53.41
Exactly, the final
death. But everyone is sleep
00:38:53.86\00:38:57.41
the wicked and the
righteous one, when they die
00:38:57.44\00:38:59.62
they are asleep because
there is gonna be a call
00:38:59.65\00:39:01.83
to the resurrection
either the first or the second,
00:39:01.86\00:39:04.74
and you will see as
we continue to break
00:39:04.77\00:39:06.74
this topic down. And
so we are talking about
00:39:06.77\00:39:08.68
in this passage those
who sleep in Jesus. Right.
00:39:08.71\00:39:11.47
In fact verse 14,
someone get this verse,
00:39:11.50\00:39:13.57
some get his verse
very confused. That's right.
00:39:13.60\00:39:15.97
As it says if we
believe that Jesus died
00:39:16.00\00:39:18.90
and rose again even so
God will bring with him
00:39:18.93\00:39:21.97
those who sleep in
Jesus and they scribe that or
00:39:22.00\00:39:24.45
they interpret that
as being that when Jesus
00:39:24.48\00:39:26.61
comes he is bringing
the saints from heaven
00:39:26.64\00:39:28.53
down with him, but
the context doesn't even
00:39:28.56\00:39:31.50
work here because it
says that Jesus died and rose
00:39:31.53\00:39:35.72
again in a similar way
Jesus will bring with him those
00:39:35.75\00:39:39.91
who sleep in
Jesus. Now those who died,
00:39:39.94\00:39:42.61
he will also
raise to be with him,
00:39:42.64\00:39:45.36
those who sleep so and
as you read on it's talking
00:39:45.39\00:39:48.87
about the resurrection,
he is not talking about
00:39:48.90\00:39:50.48
brining the saints who
slept from heaven down to earth.
00:39:50.51\00:39:53.23
I believe that too
Job in Job 14 talks about
00:39:54.43\00:39:57.27
resting until his
change comes. Okay.
00:39:57.30\00:40:00.72
Rest in the grave, he
sleeps in the grave until his
00:40:00.75\00:40:03.90
change happens. 1
Corinthians 15, at the
00:40:03.93\00:40:06.20
end of 15 he talks about
Paul refers to the change
00:40:06.23\00:40:07.20
is the body, mortal body
receiving the incorruptible,
00:40:09.63\00:40:13.70
immortal body at
the resurrection,
00:40:13.73\00:40:16.25
so all these points to,
all these happens at the
00:40:16.28\00:40:19.36
resurrection which is
what we are reading about
00:40:19.39\00:40:21.22
here in 1 Thessalonians
4. Right and so there is no
00:40:21.25\00:40:24.36
immortal person until
after the resurrection. Right.
00:40:24.39\00:40:30.20
So you can't even be in
heaven until you are immortal
00:40:30.23\00:40:35.13
because mortal man
cannot exist in the presence
00:40:35.16\00:40:38.34
of an immortal God.
Can mortal man be more just
00:40:38.37\00:40:41.59
in God that's the question
that Job ask, and the answer
00:40:41.62\00:40:44.92
was no. Only God has
immortality that's the fact,
00:40:44.95\00:40:48.52
so it is not until we are
changed, Job made it clear
00:40:48.55\00:40:51.90
I will wait in the grave
until my change comes. Right.
00:40:51.93\00:40:55.91
And that's what
John is talking about,
00:40:55.94\00:40:57.25
so don't get that
verse misconstruing thinking
00:40:57.28\00:40:59.22
that there are those in
heaven that are gonna come
00:40:59.25\00:41:01.71
back and then go back,
that's not the way the Bible
00:41:01.74\00:41:04.86
talks about that. Yeah,
and I will read this verse
00:41:04.89\00:41:06.09
really quickly because I
think it also speaks exactly
00:41:06.12\00:41:09.36
that point. Hebrews 11
verses 39 and 40. Okay.
00:41:09.39\00:41:14.08
Says that all those in
that chapter and we are talking
00:41:14.80\00:41:18.05
about Abel, Enoch, Noah,
Abraham, and Sara, Isaac,
00:41:18.08\00:41:22.06
Jacob, Joseph, Moses,
Joshua, you know all the great
00:41:22.09\00:41:25.83
saints of the past. It says
about them that in verse 39,
00:41:25.86\00:41:29.13
"All these having obtained
a good testimony through
00:41:29.16\00:41:32.17
faith did not receive
the promise." That's right.
00:41:32.20\00:41:35.10
They have not gone into
the kingdom, where Jesus
00:41:35.70\00:41:38.76
is now preparing a place
for us. It says in verse 40,
00:41:38.97\00:41:41.83
"God having provided
something better for us,
00:41:42.03\00:41:43.79
that they should not be
made perfect apart from us.
00:41:43.82\00:41:47.40
In another words we all get
made perfect together. That's
00:41:47.43\00:41:50.48
right. Its all
happening at the same time which
00:41:50.51\00:41:53.05
is why, 1
Thessalonians chapter 4 says
00:41:53.08\00:41:56.40
"That when Jesus
comes down from heaven with
00:41:56.43\00:41:59.45
a shout, with the
voice of an archangel,
00:41:59.48\00:42:00.82
and with the trumpet of
God; and the dead in Christ
00:42:00.85\00:42:03.28
are raised first that we
will be caught up together
00:42:03.31\00:42:07.38
with them in the air to
meet the Lord in the air
00:42:07.41\00:42:09.30
and together we will
be with the Lord." Right.
00:42:09.33\00:42:13.41
This is not them
going before us event.
00:42:14.09\00:42:16.41
And by the way I am
glad you point that out and
00:42:16.44\00:42:19.03
I reiterate that because
sometimes hearing it twice
00:42:19.06\00:42:21.15
from different
perspectives make it click.
00:42:21.18\00:42:23.30
We shall be caught
up together. Right.
00:42:24.03\00:42:27.67
That's the key, we shall
be caught up together, why,
00:42:27.70\00:42:30.72
to meet the Lord
which means they haven't,
00:42:31.23\00:42:33.98
the living haven't met
him, we haven't the dead in
00:42:34.01\00:42:37.87
Christ haven't met
him. The sleeping saints.
00:42:37.90\00:42:39.34
The sleeping saints haven't
met him; the living saints
00:42:39.37\00:42:41.73
haven't met him. We
shall be caught up together
00:42:41.76\00:42:44.60
for what purpose to meet
the Lord, where, in the air.
00:42:44.63\00:42:48.92
We are gonna meet him together,
00:42:48.95\00:42:50.08
so there is no meeting
that has taken place already
00:42:50.11\00:42:51.87
in heaven. And by the
way in Hebrews chapter 11,
00:42:51.90\00:42:54.62
I want you to read verse
35 because it talks about
00:42:54.65\00:42:57.02
there if you just jot
that down or turn with us
00:42:57.05\00:42:59.73
Hebrews 11 verse 35 it
talks about all the dead.
00:42:59.76\00:43:02.85
Women received their
dead raise to life again,
00:43:03.80\00:43:06.21
that was some of the
great miracles that apostles
00:43:06.24\00:43:08.49
performed, but others
were tortured not accepting
00:43:08.52\00:43:11.43
deliverance, that they
might obtain a better what
00:43:11.46\00:43:15.42
resurrection, a better
resurrection and so if we
00:43:16.50\00:43:20.49
would begin this program
about the millennium John
00:43:20.52\00:43:24.02
started up by pointing
out that the millennium one of
00:43:24.05\00:43:26.99
the first events that
happen to begin the millennium
00:43:27.02\00:43:29.31
is the second coming of
the Lord, the second coming
00:43:29.34\00:43:33.36
of the Lord. And the
second event that marks
00:43:33.39\00:43:35.80
the beginning of
the thousand years
00:43:35.83\00:43:37.44
is the
resurrection. That's right.
00:43:37.47\00:43:40.28
And so what I like to
do is go to the book of
00:43:40.31\00:43:42.16
John chapter 5, and
unless you want to say before.
00:43:42.19\00:43:46.81
I want to add something
really quick to it, okay,
00:43:47.39\00:43:48.36
other thing that marks is
the end of the tribulation,
00:43:48.37\00:43:50.96
the end of the
time of trouble. True.
00:43:51.92\00:43:54.06
And the reason I say that
is because in Matthew 24:29,
00:43:54.09\00:43:57.91
it says immediately after
the tribulation of those days
00:43:57.94\00:44:01.67
the sun will be
darkened and the moon will
00:44:01.70\00:44:03.87
not give it's light, and
the stars will fall from heaven,
00:44:03.90\00:44:05.81
and the powers of the
heavens will be shaken.
00:44:05.84\00:44:07.18
Then the sign of the son
of man will appear in heaven
00:44:07.21\00:44:10.59
and then all the
tribes of the earth will mourn
00:44:10.62\00:44:12.82
and then verse 31 and
he will send his angels
00:44:12.85\00:44:15.80
with a great sound of
a trumpet. That's right.
00:44:15.83\00:44:18.14
And they will
gather together the elect,
00:44:18.80\00:44:20.84
at the resurrection
and all those who are alive
00:44:20.87\00:44:23.28
from the four winds
from one end of heaven
00:44:23.31\00:44:25.52
to the other. That's right.
00:44:25.55\00:44:27.49
This fits very, this
is perfectly in harmony
00:44:27.52\00:44:32.89
with each other, that at
the end of the tribulation
00:44:32.92\00:44:36.16
the time of trouble, then
the resurrection occurs the
00:44:36.19\00:44:39.20
gathering of the live
scenes with those who sleep
00:44:39.23\00:44:42.35
in Jesus at the last
trumpet of God and they are
00:44:42.38\00:44:45.28
raised in up to
meet the Lord in the air,
00:44:45.31\00:44:47.65
and then we are gonna
talk about where they go.
00:44:47.68\00:44:49.09
But go first of all to
where you are describing
00:44:49.12\00:44:51.55
here I know John chapter.
00:44:51.58\00:44:52.89
John chapter 5 verse
28 and 29, which brings us
00:44:52.92\00:44:57.45
to the picture
of the resurrection.
00:44:57.65\00:44:59.25
The resurrection is a glorious
event, one of the things
00:44:59.28\00:45:03.40
that many Christian
churches have left out of
00:45:03.62\00:45:04.90
the picture and you
know what one of the greatest
00:45:04.93\00:45:06.86
evidence is that you are
in a place that's confused
00:45:06.89\00:45:09.75
is a funeral. You go
to many churches nowadays
00:45:09.78\00:45:12.66
and you list to the
funeral. Okay, wait a minute,
00:45:12.69\00:45:16.68
they are in heaven but
they are not in heaven,
00:45:16.71\00:45:17.81
they are here, but
they are in heaven.
00:45:17.84\00:45:19.60
They are glad that they
are watching us at the funeral,
00:45:19.63\00:45:22.21
but one day they are
gonna come out of the grave,
00:45:22.24\00:45:23.40
which one is it, it's so
confusing and so that's why
00:45:23.43\00:45:26.57
you find they hang on to
these Bible verses to be absent
00:45:26.60\00:45:30.60
from the body as to
be present with the Lord,
00:45:30.63\00:45:32.68
and they build an entire
doctrine around that when it
00:45:32.71\00:45:34.83
doesn't have
anything to do with death,
00:45:34.86\00:45:36.33
no where in that passage
does it talk about death.
00:45:36.36\00:45:39.51
We won't go into that
right now, but notice what the
00:45:40.24\00:45:41.94
Bible says about the
two resurrections, okay.
00:45:41.97\00:45:45.12
John chapter 5 verse 28
and 29, it says do not marvel
00:45:45.86\00:45:50.53
at this, in other words
don't be surprised looking James
00:45:50.56\00:45:53.60
version here, for
the hour is coming,
00:45:53.63\00:45:56.01
in which John tell me
what's the next word. All.
00:45:56.91\00:45:59.67
All that are aware. In
the graves. Will do what. Hear
00:46:01.07\00:46:05.02
his voice. Hear his voice,
notice. Let's look at those
00:46:05.62\00:46:07.79
words all who are in
the graves, not in heaven,
00:46:07.82\00:46:15.24
let's look that click
because you may be a part of a
00:46:16.15\00:46:18.39
denomination that says
momma is in heaven looking
00:46:18.42\00:46:20.97
down on you, don't
want to brush your bubble,
00:46:21.00\00:46:23.39
I want you to
understand that you and momma
00:46:23.42\00:46:25.33
are going to heaven
together, that's Jesus' plan.
00:46:25.36\00:46:28.24
She is not up there
looking down on you;
00:46:28.82\00:46:30.17
dad is not up there
looking down on you.
00:46:30.20\00:46:31.75
She is resting peacefully.
Thank you, rest in peace,
00:46:31.78\00:46:36.21
that's why we always
say that, earth to earth,
00:46:36.24\00:46:38.17
ashes to ashes, dust to
dust. So this topic John could
00:46:38.20\00:46:42.56
go on forever for
thousand years because
00:46:42.59\00:46:45.32
there is so much scriptural
evidence as to components
00:46:45.35\00:46:47.85
that we need to touch to
make this very, very clear.
00:46:47.88\00:46:50.45
Probably biblically one
of the most easy teachings
00:46:50.48\00:46:54.41
to teach, to share
from the word of God.
00:46:54.44\00:46:58.83
There is so much on the
nature of man in our mortality
00:46:58.86\00:47:02.85
and what happens
with us when we die.
00:47:02.88\00:47:04.46
You don't need to be
deceived on that, just
00:47:04.49\00:47:06.35
study the word, just
study the word in the subject.
00:47:06.38\00:47:08.90
Go ahead let's
finish it. Look at verse 29,
00:47:08.93\00:47:10.65
it talks about first verse
28 all who are in the graves
00:47:11.57\00:47:14.08
will hear his voice and
verse 29 begins by saying
00:47:14.11\00:47:16.32
and come forth. Now
notice the two coming forth.
00:47:16.35\00:47:20.09
Those who have done good
to the resurrection of life,
00:47:21.35\00:47:26.05
those who have done
evil to the resurrection
00:47:26.92\00:47:29.69
of condemnation and
you will find these are the
00:47:29.72\00:47:33.78
beginning and ending
points of the one thousand
00:47:33.81\00:47:38.23
years of Revelation.
The second coming of Christ,
00:47:38.26\00:47:41.25
and the first resurrection.
The third coming of Christ,
00:47:41.28\00:47:45.38
and the second resurrection.
00:47:45.41\00:47:47.28
Who comes to the millennium?
00:47:47.31\00:47:48.59
There you go, let
me repeat that again,
00:47:48.62\00:47:50.44
the second coming of Christ,
and the first resurrection,
00:47:50.65\00:47:53.78
the third coming of Christ
and the second resurrection.
00:47:53.81\00:47:58.78
The second coming of
Christ for his saints,
00:47:59.89\00:48:02.72
which are alive and
will be resurrected.
00:48:04.14\00:48:07.37
The third coming of Christ
with his saints that he has
00:48:08.25\00:48:12.41
taken to heaven at
the first resurrection,
00:48:12.44\00:48:15.30
get that we will make
that very clear as we go on,
00:48:15.33\00:48:18.68
and I am glad you
are recording this,
00:48:18.71\00:48:20.19
so you can rewind that
and get back and get it clear.
00:48:20.22\00:48:22.50
In verse 29. Yes. It
doesn't give you the timing
00:48:22.53\00:48:25.45
of the two resurrections.
It only says there are two.
00:48:25.48\00:48:29.11
Right. So, don't get
confuse by that like we are
00:48:29.72\00:48:31.42
putting a doctrine
in years to timing,
00:48:31.45\00:48:32.90
the timing will come
with future scriptures
00:48:32.93\00:48:35.84
we are going to bring
into play. 1 Corinthians.
00:48:35.87\00:48:38.46
This simply is saying
in verse 29, that there two
00:48:38.49\00:48:40.86
resurrections that's
what we wanted to know,
00:48:40.89\00:48:43.40
one to life and
one to condemnation.
00:48:43.43\00:48:47.24
And John you began a
moment ago and I would
00:48:47.45\00:48:49.18
like you to go 1
Corinthians 15 and add another
00:48:49.21\00:48:51.09
component to that. John began
by going to 1 Thessalonians
00:48:51.12\00:48:54.42
chapter 4 when it says
the Lord himself will descend
00:48:54.45\00:48:57.23
from heaven with a shout,
with the voice of archangel,
00:48:57.26\00:49:00.03
with the trumpet of God. So
now let's look at that trumpet
00:49:00.06\00:49:02.86
again to see what
happens at that time that the
00:49:02.89\00:49:05.10
trumpet blows. 1
Corinthians chapter 15,
00:49:05.13\00:49:07.69
and I would like you to
begin John, by the way if
00:49:07.72\00:49:10.43
you have any challenges
about the resurrection what
00:49:10.46\00:49:12.98
happens when you die
the entire chapter of 1
00:49:13.01\00:49:15.94
Corinthians 15 is dedicated
to clearing that issue up.
00:49:15.97\00:49:18.73
And we talked about
the hundred and forty four
00:49:19.69\00:49:21.52
thousand earlier in our
program and if you look at
00:49:21.55\00:49:24.36
Revelation 14, they are
described as the first fruits.
00:49:24.39\00:49:27.03
Jesus is also described
as the first fruits of those
00:49:27.06\00:49:29.98
who slept, right. And
if you know the heading
00:49:30.01\00:49:32.74
on my Bible says
here just above verse 20
00:49:32.77\00:49:35.24
order of the resurrection.
00:49:35.27\00:49:37.24
Hey that's exactly
mine says it. Yeah.
00:49:37.27\00:49:39.68
Order of the resurrection.
And so we will start with 20.
00:49:40.66\00:49:42.97
Well no actually what I
like you do is let's go ahead
00:49:43.00\00:49:45.29
and go from verse 51 to
55. We will start with 50.
00:49:45.32\00:49:51.42
Okay, let's do that. It
says in 50 "Now this I say,
00:49:52.17\00:49:55.10
brethren, that
flesh and blood can what.
00:49:55.13\00:49:57.40
Cannot, Cannot
inherit the kingdom of God;
00:49:57.43\00:50:01.36
nor does corruption
inherit incorruption.
00:50:01.56\00:50:03.59
This is the key. Okay.
Because until you receive
00:50:03.62\00:50:08.79
the immortal body that
God is going to give you
00:50:08.82\00:50:11.18
at the resurrection you
can't enter into the kingdom.
00:50:11.21\00:50:14.50
Right. It simply it says
it very clearly corruption,
00:50:14.53\00:50:18.56
flesh and blood cannot
inherit the kingdom of God,
00:50:18.76\00:50:21.79
and flesh and blood
there is not talking about just
00:50:21.82\00:50:25.37
a physical body. Okay, he
is not saying someone might
00:50:25.40\00:50:29.78
conclude well in
spirit you enter there,
00:50:29.81\00:50:31.76
but that's not
what he is saying.
00:50:32.85\00:50:33.82
No that's not what
I was talking about.
00:50:33.83\00:50:34.80
It's basically saying
that prior to you receiving the
00:50:34.81\00:50:38.69
body, the new body you
can't go there, that's right,
00:50:38.90\00:50:41.07
that's what saying more
than in spirit only because
00:50:41.10\00:50:43.41
this isn't about spirit;
this is talking about the
00:50:43.44\00:50:45.63
resurrection.
Clearly. Verse 51, Behold,
00:50:45.66\00:50:48.78
I tell you a mystery:
We shall not all sleep,
00:50:48.81\00:50:51.69
but we shall all be
changed. There you go.
00:50:52.48\00:50:54.96
And link this now again
with Job 14. Go back to there.
00:50:54.99\00:50:58.04
Waiting until my change comes.
00:50:58.24\00:50:59.78
And read that. In a
moment in a twinkling of an eye
00:50:59.81\00:51:03.32
at the last trumpet
for the trumpet will sound
00:51:04.10\00:51:07.07
and the dead will be raised
incorruptible and we shall
00:51:07.10\00:51:10.50
be changed. I
just saw something John
00:51:10.53\00:51:14.58
at the last trumpet.
Yeah. Why the last one because
00:51:16.14\00:51:22.72
there is some prior to that.
00:51:22.75\00:51:23.82
Yeah, there is some
prior to that, absolutely.
00:51:23.85\00:51:25.65
Okay, alright, let's go on.
00:51:25.68\00:51:26.65
The dead will be raised
incorruptible and we shall
00:51:28.10\00:51:30.64
be changed verse 53 for
this corruptible another
00:51:30.67\00:51:35.15
word of saying
that is immortal. Right.
00:51:35.18\00:51:37.29
This corruptible must put
on incorruption and this mortal
00:51:38.26\00:51:41.68
must put on immortality,
so when this corruptible has
00:51:41.71\00:51:45.46
put on incorruption
and this mortal has put
00:51:45.49\00:51:47.55
on immortality, then
shall be brought to pass the
00:51:47.58\00:51:49.79
saying that is written:
00:51:49.82\00:51:50.79
"Death is
swallowed up in victory."
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So and it does mention
there mortal and immortality
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to corruptible, he is
talking about the flesh that
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has been corrupted. It
is sinful flesh that he is
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describing there, and
then of course mortal body
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which is only going to
be around until it dies,
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and then its sleeping
or if it's the second death
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its gone forever. And if
you look at this text what
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it combines is we are
gonna be changed in the
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spiritual nature and
we are gonna be changed
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in the physical
nature at the same time,
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you cannot be sinful,
that's gonna be changed to the
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righteousness of
Christ eternally.
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Matter of fact Revelation
22, verse 11 says in this way.
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He that is unjust,
let him be unjust still,
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he remains mortal, but
either he is holy let him
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be holy still, he now is
made like Jesus righteous,
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either is filthy,
let him be filthy still,
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he stays corruptible,
but he that is righteous,
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let him be righteous still,
so you have holy and righteous
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for those who are change
in the likeness of Jesus,
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you have filthy and unjust
for those who are not in the
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first resurrection. We
will talk about that in a moment
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because what separates
these two resurrections
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as we just read in
John chapter 5 is one comes
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forth to the resurrection
of life, the other one comes
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forth to the
resurrection of condemnation
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and you clearly have to
understand that they are
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separated by large caver.
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They don't both
happen at the same time.
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Yeah in verse 55, 'O
Death, where is your sting?
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O Hades, where is your
victory." Talking about
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you know death, being
the death is swallowed up
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in victory in 54 we read
that. You know its not until
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this moment that death is
swallowed up for the saints,
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that death has
become or has been put down
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for the saints.
In another words.
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So this side of the
resurrection death still
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reigns which means you
cannot enter in life whether
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it would be in
the body or spirit,
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you are dead this
side of the resurrection.
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I am glad you
emphasize that and I want to add
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something to that. A
lot of us think that death
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is the knockout punch.
Well when the resurrection
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comes the Lord says
where is your knockout
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punch now. Death is
not the last chapter,
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it is the chapter that allows
us all to enter into rest,
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but that rest is going to
be interrupted just as Jesus'
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rest was interrupted
when his father called him
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from the grave. Now
he will do the same thing
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with the voice of archangel
call us forth from the grave.
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So clearly death is not
the last thing and that's why
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I like what he
says in verse 'O Death,
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where is your sting
or where is your victory.
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The grave does not have
victory over the saints.
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The grave is just a
temporary holding place like Job
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says I will wait, if I
wait the grave is my house,
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I will make my
dwelling in the dust,
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that's where he is gonna go.
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I can hear some
saying out there and there
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may be even some
teachers, school teachers or
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ministers who are
thinking well these guys have
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a confused because you
see there is a spirit and then
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there is a body, and
they are talking about
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the body, and they are
accurate, but the spirit
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does go ahead of
the body to heaven.
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We beg to differ because
the first light that was ever
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told is continuing to
be told to this very day
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which is in the Garden of Eden.
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Satan himself said
from the tree to Eve,
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you shall not
surely die. In other words,
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God says you are
going to die, but you won't
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really die and today
many are still teaching that
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when you die your soul
goes on and your spirit departs
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from your body and
goes on ahead to heaven,
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and the Bible in nowhere
says the soul is separate
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from the body or
immortal. That's right.
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Its just not even
there, it's read into the text
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because people want to put
it there, but it is not there.
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Right. This is Greek
philosophy that goes back
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to the Greeks. These
are philosophy about the
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flesh being the
corruptible part and the spirit
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being the good part of man.
He has got nail plate in his.
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Yeah and the spirit
will be released upon death
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and the good man will be
able to dwell with God and that
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is a teaching from the
old Greek philosophers,
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it is not a biblical teaching.
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So, when you hear
people say they are in a better
00:56:10.04\00:56:11.84
place now, that better
place better be the cemetery.
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Yeah. Because they
are not in heaven anymore
00:56:17.66\00:56:20.20
than they are not in
hell. Now it's amazing we never
00:56:20.23\00:56:22.92
say they are in hell
now. What we actually do at
00:56:22.95\00:56:26.09
the funeral is only
what God does he is the only
00:56:26.12\00:56:28.41
one that decides where they go,
00:56:28.44\00:56:29.62
but the ministers take that
position at the funeral says
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they are in heaven
now, are we the judge.
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You can't assign a
person to heaven because you are
00:56:34.19\00:56:36.89
not the judge, you
can't say they are there now
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because you don't have the
authority to determine that.
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Yes. See that's why
the judge Jesus himself
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is gonna determine, where
our end is when he comes back.
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In other words, you
would hear a minister
00:56:46.96\00:56:49.06
at the funeral say well
this guy didn't live a very
00:56:49.09\00:56:52.20
good life, he was
kind of a grumpy old guy,
00:56:52.23\00:56:55.42
he is in hell right
now, burn him up. Right.
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You never hear
someone say that. You don't.
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Even though I think
some people are thinking it,
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the Bible does not say at
all and we have a question
00:57:02.34\00:57:05.91
coming up on this.
Bible does not say that hell
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is burning now. No, it doesn't.
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So, anyway that's another topic.
00:57:10.53\00:57:12.02
But as you know at
House Calls, we believe
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in the Bible and the
Bible only, so continue,
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we will continue this topic
on another upcoming program,
00:57:17.19\00:57:20.46
but we thank you
for joining us today.
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And once again
remember study your words,
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so that when this event
comes you will if you die
00:57:24.68\00:57:27.57
at the end of the
first resurrection whatever
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the case maybe
make your decision today
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to meet the Lord in
peace. God bless you.
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