Hello friends grab
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sit back as we explore God's
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word together on this
edition of House Calls.
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Well, welcome
everyone to another program on
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House Calls. We are so
glad that you decided to
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join us today. My
name is Pastor John Stanton
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with me in the studio
today is pastor C.A Murray.
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It's great to have you here sir.
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Always good to be with you.
Yeah. What a blessing it is?
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And you know we have
got an exciting, another
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exciting program
for you and we just does
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pray that you will be
blessed, but before any
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of us are blessed we
want to make sure that
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we go to the Lord in
prayer so pastor Murray
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maybe could you lead
us to the throne of grace.
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Glad to do so. Alright.
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greatest father
again we thank you for this
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opportunity to
talk about those things
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which pertain to guideline
us spiritual life here as we
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prepare for higher
citizenship in the world
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to come in. So we
ask that you would be the
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sentence of conference of
all that we do that we may
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be given the strength to
lift up the name of Jesus
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so that those who're
watching here and listen
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may know and understand
your will for our lives
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and we thank you
in Jesus name. Amen!
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Amen! You know I
like that prayer because
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what we try to do on
this program every time
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is lift the name of
Jesus up and his word.
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And to do that we
depend upon the Holy Spirit.
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And so that's why
every, every program
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from program to
program we depend upon prayer
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to get it started and we
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You are very diligent
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So thank you for
sending those in we
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have got some
great questions today.
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And always some
challenging one some
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of them I have to
say you know pastor.
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Wow, now I haven't
thought about that one
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for a while. Its one of
those things where if someone
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hit you with and you
don't have your Bible you
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might have to say well
I have to get back to you
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on that one. But, we thank you
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so much for sending
those questions in and
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we'll take a look here
at our first one today.
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You want to take
the Reign's hearing.
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Already we got a
question it says dear Johns.
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So I guess that's
John Stanton and Lumigan
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but I'll take this
in. What evidence is there
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that he that is God
made other planets or
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other Universes or
the worlds in the Bible?
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Do you think that
God would mention men
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from other planets or
universe in the Bible?
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So basically he wants
to know, he wants an idea
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that we are not here by
ourselves that the other
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planets other world.
Just a couple of text that
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would sort of jump
start our search in the book
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of Job we have indication
Job 1 verses 2 and 2 verses
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1 that there is this
Gathering of individuals from
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several different
worlds. And of course Saints
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came
representing planet earth and
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of course God directed
Saint's attention to Job,
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but in Hebrews chapter
1, verse 2 we actually get
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something a little
stronger and I'm hearing to that
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even as I speak
Hebrews chapter 1 and Verse 2,
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you know they say you
should never start out
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with brand revival
and this is brand revival.
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You know what if
people have been getting Bible
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to relately to sold.
Yeah, yeah this is great one
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and, but it's got a
lot of extra material.
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So before you even get
to the chapter there is
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all this research material.
So you get to the chapter
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and you are there and
there is so much research.
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But, I'm in Hebrews
chapter 1, and verse 2,
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here we go, yeah here
we go. Well I'll start with
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verse 1 coz it
gives little look content.
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God who at various
times and in various ways
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spoke times past to
the fathers by the Prophets
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has in these last days
spoken to us by his son
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of course talking
about Jesus whom he have
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appointed air of
all things and through
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whom he has made
the worlds W-O-R-L-D-S.
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Several texts like
this collations comes in
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mind, there are
others later in the Bible
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that let us know
that they are worlds that
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there is this world
and of course this world is
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the object of Heavens
energies now. But, there
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are other worlds.
We have not contacted
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them and I frankly
don't think that we will
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contact them this
side of redemption.
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Simply because sin
seems to be quarantined here
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when the Bible
talks about war and heaven
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in Revelation chapter
12, Satan was cast out to
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this earth so the
focus, the locus of the sin
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problem is here. And I
don't think God is going
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to allow that problem
doesn't say it for say but
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to spread beyond the
quarantine of planet earth.
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You know he is dealing
with it here. But there are
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other worlds and we
not even we get indication
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that are other worlds
and other inhabited worlds,
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but for now for
this point sin is here.
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God has been pleased to
keep it here and to deal
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with here and we'll
eradicate it here and
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then I think we will
be sort of free to make
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contact with other
world, other individuals.
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There are lot of
things that sin has hidden.
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From our eyes we
cannot see our angels unless
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God choose us to
break the veil between the
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spirit world and our
world or we got some --
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with lord interposes
to step in but there are
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indeed other world. But, I
don't think we'll be contact
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in any time soon
because we need to keep
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the infection here.
And keep it from spreading.
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You know what I think
this a very good it helps to
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provide little more
meaning to why there was tree.
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because if you think
about it, I mean the lord put a
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tree in the mist of the garden.
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Cleary it was a test. Yes.
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I mean, I can imagine
that tree being around forever.
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I mean it was there for
a purpose, for a reason and
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Adam and Eve were
needing to pass that test of
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loyalty to God,
they failed. Yeah.
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And then we find that
Satan was limited to this
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earth. He was
cast down to the earth.
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Right. Lot of people
say why do come here.
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He came here because
this is where the sin
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problem was. And
this is where the whole
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thing began and where he
is restricted too as well.
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So you know I think
it brings more meaning to
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I think something Adventists
use the term we use over
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and over again
the great controversy.
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Yes. This battle between
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good and evil and held
this world is the battle
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field of that
fight. And so yes the other
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thing to there is
another unique kind of an
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interesting parable.
That's not so much of
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parable it's actually
a story an analogy that
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Jesus uses and it's
talking about how the
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shepherd leaves the 99
sheep and goes to find that
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one. And many you
know we say well it's nice
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that he would
leave 99 saved people.
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His sheep who already
following him and going
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to find the one that
was lost, but there seems to
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would be implied in
that story something a
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little more than just
99 saved people to going
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to find the one.
There seems to be
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implied there that there
is a bigger the salvation
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process involves
Christ death on the cross and
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he came to this earth
as the one that was lost.
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Yes, yes we knew that kind
of little more cosmic view.
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That you have got all
of these unfallen worlds.
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And then you have got
this one rebellious out
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of harmony law
spinning through space and then
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there is this
concentrated effort on that
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one particular
world. That's a good way
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to look at it. Yeah.
Little bit of broader context.
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Yeah. Thank you very
much and thank you for
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the question on that.
That's a great question.
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That it gets
answer from time to time.
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So we thought you
know what ask enough what
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make sure we answer.
You now one thing I would
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just add it, you know
sometimes it's a little
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Ego test for the
think that when God made man
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he just stopped
there. You know we tend to
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think well we're the
only ones and when we look
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at the vastness of the
universe and we are begins
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on stand with Hubble
telescope that we are
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talking about a
really, really, big universe.
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You know bigger
than the human mind can
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even deal with. And
to think that in all
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of the millions and
literally billions of planets
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and stars that God
sort of created planet earth
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25 thousand miles
across and just stop
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there and never made any
other because he will know
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he made a raise of
people that we call angels
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messengers that
number in the millions,
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10 thousand times, 10
thousand perhaps billions.
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And when you think of
the creative energies of
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God of love surely
there are other worlds
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and other created
beings and other inhabitants
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and one of the joys I
think of redemption and
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salvation will be the
spencer of time we get in our
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brother and sisters
on other planets. Yeah.
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Amen. That's an
exciting thing to know
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about the future what;
what's in store for us.
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You know you mentioned
Job chapter 1 in that we
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didn't go to that
verse, but this question
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touches on that.
Because this question
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that I have it
comes from looks like they
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didn't sign your
name. But, anyway it, its
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pertains to what
we're talking about there.
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In that it says if,
if in Genesis and Job the
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sons of God are men
who fear God and love
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and follow his commandments
where is your proof that
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this title was given to
man as airs before Jesus
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fulfilled the prophecy
which is given to man who
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love Jesus and follow him
and keep his commandments.
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Call the sense of
God in the New Testament.
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So how would you what
proof do you have that
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determine the Old
Testament especially what he is
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saying or she is saying
applies to man or men and not
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angels or angelic beings.
Well there are several things.
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The first thing I would
say though is, you know in
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every court of law a
lawyer will tell you one of the
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first things you do
is not let someone force
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you to prove
something. When the burden of
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proof is on them.
So the burden of proof
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is not on me to share
where that argument or
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that validity is
found in God's word.
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The burden of proof
is more upon those who
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say it's not that it pertains
to angels to find in fact
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where they get that
from. And there are several
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reasons I say that,
number one a couple of
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scriptures Job 1
which we just mentioned,
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another one is Genesis
chapter 6 these two will
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touch on here for just
a minute, but these seem
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to be describing
and they even mention it
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specifically in
Genesis at least describing men
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the sons of God being mankind
not angelic beings at all.
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You know I went right
to Genesis 6. You know
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when you look at
Genesis 6:1 and it came to pass,
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when men began to multiplying
the face of the earth,
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and daughters who
born to them, so we're
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talking about men
conceptually we're dealing
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with human being that
the sons of God saw the
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daughters of men
that they were beautiful;
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and they took wives
for themselves of all who
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they chose. There
is no justification to
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insert angels there.
No. Your context is men.
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So to go to angels is a
total leap of faith that
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not justified by the text.
Right. We are talking about
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men multiplying on
the earth. Sons of God are
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particular class of
men who follow the lord.
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Who have dedicated
themselves to the lord?
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To insert angels
there, there is no reason
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rational makes no
sense it's just it comes out
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of really, out
of clear blue sky.
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Yeah. Because it's just not
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there and it's not justified
by the text and I think
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your point is important
Job. Because a person makes
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an assertion doesn't
mean it's a just assertion.
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So the burden of
proof is not on you because
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it's not
Biblical. It doesn't follow
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a Biblical logic. Yeah. Yeah.
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You know the other thing
to that as well I like the
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faith fact that you
brought up context here.
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Because if we go back
a little bit, you have
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Cain killing Abel. And
then you have Cain and his
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descendants mentioned.
And then you have Seth
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the one that we
placed Abel who was son of
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God and his descendants.
So you have a cleared
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distinction between
those who were godly and
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those were
ungodly. Precisely. Then you
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get to chapter 6 and
the writer which we know
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is Moses. Then take
those two lineages and talks
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about them in
fuller context in a great
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controversy context and
it says there were daughters
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of men who already on
godly and they were the
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sons of God who followed
God, the lineage of Seth.
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And there you have them matching
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up against each other.
And I think what throws
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people off in that
passage is where it talks about
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giants. Yeah. I
said well how could they
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have produce giants
if they weren't something
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more then men.
We were not giants,
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you know we forget
that Moses here is writing
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this of
thousands of years before.
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And men were much
bigger. Back then, then they
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were in Moses days so
to him as he is writing
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this he is saying
there were giants roaming on
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the earth in those
days. He was stating a fact.
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Yeah, yeah bigger,
greater intellect, lived quite a
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bit longer 10 times
the length of Moses.
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You know so I think
when they are dealing
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with the Bible one of
the things that keeps your
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feet on the ground is
always asking the question what
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is the context
for this statement.
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Because you can just
pull a statement out off
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the middle of no
where and really get lost.
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If you don't have your
barrens as far as context is
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concerned you always
have to ask your self context,
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context, context, context,
and once you establish it,
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stay with it until the
Bible says it's time to change.
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That's right.
Yeah. Rather than just
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sort of changing on your own.
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And once you establish
that context as we talked
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about here with Genesis 6
then you can move to Job 1.
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And when it talks
about the sons of God came to
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present themselves you
get a full understanding
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of why Jesus or why
God said in there to
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Satan's appearance
what are you doing here.
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Here's why not only
is it because Satan is
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claiming to be the
ruler of the earth.
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Because here the
sons of God if they are
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created beings, leaders
of the respective worlds
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Satan is stepping in to say
I'm the leader of the earth.
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I mean we understand
that point, but he is also
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saying what you
doing here because he
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says you are not
human. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah.
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See there is two
meanings here you are not human
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you are an angel who
says you have any authority
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on the earth as
well. Because I put Adam in
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authority and I
have already promised to
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save and redeem Adam
and restore him back again
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to his rightful place. Yeah.
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And so anyway in that
context clearly there is more
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meaning now in Job 1
understanding that the
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sons of God pertain
to. Yeah, human being.
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Actual human being or
created being with the
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ability to
procreate. Here's another hurdle
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you have. Give me
a burden, give me the
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proof in the Bible where
angels where ever discussed
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or even eluded to
with being given the
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ability to
procreate. Its not there.
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Its not there. No.
They are to serve God
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and in fact there
is a reference in the
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New Testimony about
in the new earth we will
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be as angels reference
more to not procreating
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continuing to
procreate so there is actually
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evidence there
that angels do not have.
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Yeah. Ability to procreate.
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Yeah, yeah. So to
read into what did they
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do we are going far
beyond any legal means or
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word that provides
that. Plus plus there is no
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Biblical evidence
that even if they could
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procreate angel to
angel that there is any
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sort of cross
breeding. It puts me angels and
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humans is just, there is
just no Biblical evidence
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for that there is no race
of people that came out of
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that, there is no you
just have no foundation for
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that kind of logic
it's just not in the Bible.
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Just a side note its not;
I mean its just my opinion.
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If the battle between
good and evil that takes place
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beyond us is a
battle that is serious as we
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know what it is if the
angels could procreate which
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mean they'll be male
and female what would Satan
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be doing to try
and increase his army?
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Yeah he will be
procreating like crazy expanding
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his army no evidence
of that either so anyway
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No not outside of Hollywood
There you go you got to go
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some place is they don't
really know any better to
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to find that going to
abel this You have any other
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question. there? Yeah this
one is come from Irene there
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is number of names
here, but its asking for an
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explanation of 1
Samuel chapter 2, verse 25.
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1 Samuel 2:25 and I
have found that and part of
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this is prophets
against Eli's household
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you know Eli high priest
father of Hophni and Phineas
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and trouble they were
getting to in the temple
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verse 25 If one man sins
against another, God would
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judge him, but if a
man sins against God, who
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will intercede for
him? Nevertheless they did
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not hear the voice of
their father because Lord
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decide to kill them.
Now you've got a problem
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you've got two men
who are priests who are
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really doing evil in
the temple their dad is
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high priest and is aware of
his sons on toward activity.
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But, for whatever reason
is doing nothing to correct.
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You know they are
really doing some evil
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stuff in the presence of
God and of course we found
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that later on God has
to take measure to sort
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cut that off but God
in his speaking about
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the incidents says basically
if I sin against you the
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Lord can judge or even
a third gordly party can
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come and sort of into
see but when a man sins
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against a God what human
being can step into that.
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one my blood can't even
save me suddenly can't save you.
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You know it has to be
the blood of Christ so
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when a man sins
against the Lord then I can't
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really plea his case
because almost sinful person
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jsut like you. God
has to do with that.
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Yeah. What man
can do that cannot
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and of course when you
got these two boys were
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sinning for God
sinning against God in the face
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of God in the temple
God has going todo with that
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because they are sinning
against God and we cant step
00:19:09.88\00:19:14.17
into middle of it
that's something you know
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sometimes you say something
well I can't stand between
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you and the Lord I cant
help you in that there are
00:19:17.63\00:19:20.33
certain things we can
get ourselves into hasn't
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straight now because
another person psychologist,
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psychiatrist whatever
can't do it has to be God
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You know it shows our
inability to even save
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ourselves if my own
blood could save me then
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I commit suicide and
save myself but my blood
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cannot save me the
sinless blood of Christ
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plead in my behalf to save me.
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Very good your
context is so key there
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Yes. To understand
because all we know is a
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merciful God yet he
adjust God and is a point
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where mercy is
resisted long enough to where
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God has to do
something as to interviewing
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or sin would
letting it run its course
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Yeah. would overcome even
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the plans of God.
He is got to step there
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Yeah. And of
course god have to had
00:20:01.00\00:20:02.07
end of these thing because
you know that the day when
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hawk was taken both
sons killed in battle
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and he lacks this news
in false backward of his
00:20:07.44\00:20:10.31
toward and dies and so
that the Lord had to come in
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and of course that
the Phineas half niece
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son wife borrow up a
son who they called Ekobit
00:20:16.25\00:20:19.49
gloriously partied so
in that one day the lord
00:20:19.52\00:20:22.42
sort of dealt with a whole issue
00:20:22.45\00:20:24.17
he left the one as
long as he chose to it and
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then he stopped it
which is counsel for us
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today sometimes you
think you get to worrying
00:20:30.59\00:20:32.66
with staff and then
the lord says okay today
00:20:32.69\00:20:34.96
is the last day for
that I am going to put
00:20:34.99\00:20:36.56
an end to that today and
of course on that day iqobat
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died mother died on child birth
00:20:39.64\00:20:42.24
boy born prematurely
half infinious is died
00:20:43.13\00:20:46.08
heart of Conan
taken when Phil died.
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so when the Lord moves
he moves in a powerful way
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he only tolerate sin
so long and of course even
00:20:52.00\00:20:54.50
in these last days he
was tolerate but so long
00:20:54.53\00:20:56.58
and then he says enough.
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You know you hear so
many times if you are
00:20:57.79\00:21:01.69
talking to someone who
is just kind of learning
00:21:01.72\00:21:04.13
the bible and
learning about the lord
00:21:05.00\00:21:06.63
and they've got a lot
of questions and things
00:21:06.66\00:21:09.04
I hear the question
that often comes back
00:21:09.07\00:21:11.35
Now. You know I
read the bible and I like
00:21:11.38\00:21:13.68
the Jesus of the New Testament
00:21:13.71\00:21:15.86
but I really had a
problem with the God
00:21:16.64\00:21:17.92
of the Old Testament and
you know the responsibility
00:21:17.95\00:21:20.45
here that when we
say the lord is dealing
00:21:20.48\00:21:22.44
with things back
then it was Jesus
00:21:22.47\00:21:24.38
Yes, yes. That was Jesus and so
00:21:24.41\00:21:27.30
Jesus is simply
manifesting both parts
00:21:27.33\00:21:29.96
of his character
which is a merciful god
00:21:29.99\00:21:32.35
he is also adjust god
he will not let sin go
00:21:32.98\00:21:35.17
beyond its point
of you know no return.
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Yeah, yeah. And
the bible says you know
00:21:38.75\00:21:40.13
because sin is
not dealt with sifley
00:21:40.16\00:21:42.81
people becoming
bolder in their sins
00:21:44.27\00:21:45.74
Yeah. you know one thing about
00:21:45.77\00:21:49.39
judgment if you keep
threatening, threatening
00:21:49.42\00:21:50.94
threatening they
will bring it down
00:21:50.97\00:21:52.23
then you tend to
get little relaxed
00:21:52.26\00:21:53.92
you know I am going
to give you a spanking
00:21:53.95\00:21:55.60
I am going to give a spanking
00:21:55.63\00:21:56.60
and then after that you
know before and then of course
00:21:56.65\00:21:59.15
everybody is surprised
what I told you was common
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It's right. It was on the way.
00:22:01.91\00:22:05.17
you just did it
here and of course that's
00:22:05.20\00:22:08.22
going to happen for
the world that god offer
00:22:08.25\00:22:10.79
just started 7000 years of sin
00:22:10.82\00:22:13.31
it cannot go on
further Christ said we hold
00:22:14.18\00:22:16.40
on I am coming quickly and
00:22:16.43\00:22:17.70
we know that coming is very soon
00:22:17.73\00:22:20.29
Yeah. And people are saying
00:22:20.32\00:22:21.50
there is no god.
Let's this happen
00:22:21.53\00:22:24.18
That things
going on. Yeah, yeah.
00:22:24.21\00:22:25.54
one last
question here from Michael
00:22:27.44\00:22:28.82
and this is actually
a question that is asked
00:22:30.87\00:22:32.93
by several others
it says I was told
00:22:32.96\00:22:37.17
it doesn't matter
what we eat anymore
00:22:37.20\00:22:39.06
is it clean or unclean
this has to do with the white
00:22:40.89\00:22:43.77
sheet vision with Paul
00:22:43.80\00:22:45.18
It doesn't matter
whether we eat clean or unclean
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fruits Romans 14:14; I
00:22:49.97\00:22:54.97
I am confused I don't
want to go against God's plan
00:22:55.00\00:22:57.62
for my life good.
Alright question and a question
00:22:57.65\00:23:01.96
is being asked
several times in many do read
00:23:01.99\00:23:04.63
Romans chapter 14
and they read into
00:23:04.66\00:23:07.44
the couple of
things that are not there
00:23:07.47\00:23:09.02
he first thing we
commonly hear reading to that is
00:23:09.05\00:23:11.35
the Sabbath. Don't
judge someone about
00:23:11.38\00:23:13.27
the day they observe
and of course Sabbath
00:23:13.30\00:23:15.76
is not even
mentioned there and it does not
00:23:15.79\00:23:17.26
have anything to do
with Sabbath but people
00:23:17.29\00:23:18.70
read that into
it the other thing
00:23:18.73\00:23:20.69
they read into that
is the fact that all food
00:23:20.72\00:23:24.44
is now clean and that
is something also that
00:23:24.47\00:23:28.57
that it doesn't
say so I don't know
00:23:28.60\00:23:32.55
if we spend a lot
of time here on each
00:23:32.58\00:23:34.13
specific passage
you've got yourself turned
00:23:34.16\00:23:37.01
as in Romans 14 you have there.
00:23:37.04\00:23:38.40
Umh. Yeah, so we can touch
00:23:38.43\00:23:40.29
on that but just
overall as far as a general
00:23:40.32\00:23:44.58
overview one thing I
want to mention here is
00:23:44.61\00:23:47.20
that there is no
place in the bible where
00:23:47.23\00:23:49.72
god ever calls initially
specially certain unclean
00:23:49.75\00:23:57.66
foods, food we
could say we use this term
00:23:57.69\00:24:01.56
unclean foods but
it's kind of maximore.
00:24:01.59\00:24:05.67
its normal its not
unclean food its just unclean.
00:24:05.70\00:24:09.43
This is not a
food. This is not a food.
00:24:09.46\00:24:11.10
Right. And we find
that even before the Jews
00:24:11.13\00:24:14.65
were the Jews and
before israel was Israel
00:24:14.68\00:24:17.29
how know was told by god
to take into the art clean
00:24:17.32\00:24:20.81
animals. Animals
that were clean that
00:24:20.84\00:24:24.06
they could eat. He
does wan't clean food
00:24:24.09\00:24:27.74
they can take in.
it was clean animal
00:24:27.77\00:24:29.37
they would take in.
The swine and all loved
00:24:29.40\00:24:32.66
the other things
that were two by two
00:24:32.69\00:24:34.84
were unclean animals. Yes.
00:24:34.87\00:24:37.29
not labeled as food
so when you get to the
00:24:37.71\00:24:40.50
new testimony her
and people say well
00:24:40.53\00:24:42.99
that was the Jewish
system no it was before
00:24:43.02\00:24:45.68
the Jewish system. No it
was before the Jewish system
00:24:45.71\00:24:47.84
its with dealing Noah. But
now you can even post Israel
00:24:48.44\00:24:51.89
is more spiritual is
where the church. It's not like
00:24:51.92\00:24:54.31
God always said and
says, Oh lets go back to the
00:24:54.34\00:24:56.86
old and call those
foods now clean again because
00:24:56.89\00:24:59.21
what Christ did
they are still not food.
00:24:59.24\00:25:02.24
Right. its an unclean animals.
00:25:02.27\00:25:04.10
So when Peter gets this vision
00:25:04.97\00:25:06.66
and it's a sheep being
let down with the bunch of
00:25:08.08\00:25:10.52
unclean animals in
it and the Lord says
00:25:10.55\00:25:12.18
go ahead and take and eat.
00:25:12.21\00:25:13.24
Peter's reply is what
I've never let anything
00:25:14.09\00:25:16.73
like that cross my mouth.
00:25:16.76\00:25:18.06
I haven't taste
any of that stuff.
00:25:18.09\00:25:20.17
Well, Jesus knows
that because Jesus has been
00:25:21.12\00:25:22.85
with them and talking not
to eat those kinds of food,
00:25:22.88\00:25:25.46
and even probably
didn't have to teach him that
00:25:25.49\00:25:27.08
he knew that from the beginning.
00:25:27.11\00:25:28.08
Yeah. so, we read into that
00:25:28.09\00:25:31.09
and if we go little
further in the context
00:25:31.12\00:25:33.16
there in Chapter 10,
of that we look further
00:25:33.19\00:25:36.65
that actually says that
Peter says, it was the Lord
00:25:36.68\00:25:39.44
taught me that I
should treat no man.
00:25:39.47\00:25:41.42
Correct. Unclean.
00:25:41.45\00:25:43.34
Correct. So,
the whole vision was
00:25:43.37\00:25:44.87
about how Paul was
treating the gentiles
00:25:44.90\00:25:48.13
which I mean not
Paul. Peter was treating
00:25:48.57\00:25:50.12
the gentiles which
Paul rebuked him for.
00:25:50.15\00:25:51.96
There was a time
where Paul was in a room.
00:25:52.77\00:25:54.84
and Peter was there
and he was only associating
00:25:54.87\00:25:57.39
with Jews. He wouldn't
mingle with the gentiles
00:25:57.42\00:25:59.85
and Paul here
speaking to the gentiles
00:25:59.88\00:26:01.70
and looking around
seeing that there was only
00:26:01.73\00:26:03.71
one look back at Peter
and said hey that's not right
00:26:03.74\00:26:06.63
Yeah. In fact Peter
got up from one group or
00:26:06.66\00:26:08.37
one of that with another group.
00:26:08.40\00:26:09.69
and Paul was
stood him to his face.
00:26:09.72\00:26:11.19
Peter had a number of
issues he was a sort of Jews
00:26:12.68\00:26:19.04
And it took Peter a
little while to except
00:26:19.07\00:26:22.33
the call to take the
gospel to a wider community.
00:26:22.36\00:26:25.67
You see this sort
of resistance you know
00:26:25.70\00:26:27.80
and it pops up here, here again
00:26:27.83\00:26:31.02
and in this Acts chapter 10
00:26:31.05\00:26:33.33
God is actually
preparing Peter's mind to except
00:26:33.36\00:26:37.32
a wider ministry.
Peter would a kind of
00:26:37.39\00:26:40.63
what so whatever he
confined himself to a certain
00:26:40.66\00:26:45.27
group of people
now he is moving into
00:26:45.30\00:26:47.88
a wider ministry
and God is showing him
00:26:47.91\00:26:50.48
and again we talk about
context and keep on read
00:26:51.74\00:26:53.76
You know if you stop
reading at that verse
00:26:53.79\00:26:56.27
you can't get stuff
but if you keep on reading
00:26:56.30\00:26:58.06
Peter explains what
God is doing to him,
00:26:59.35\00:27:02.19
that he is saying
no man is unclean.
00:27:02.22\00:27:05.50
I should call no man unclean.
00:27:06.91\00:27:08.02
so take the same gospel
message to the wider world
00:27:08.05\00:27:10.96
that you have been
sort of complaining
00:27:10.99\00:27:12.39
to the Jewish community.
00:27:12.42\00:27:13.39
So, this is as
really nothing to do a fool.
00:27:13.40\00:27:15.99
Right. This is evangelism
00:27:16.02\00:27:18.19
to the world field
as opposed to justice
00:27:18.95\00:27:20.77
to Jewish community. Yeah.
00:27:20.80\00:27:21.79
You know, and they
are also in Scripture
00:27:21.82\00:27:23.80
you know here is the evidence.
00:27:23.83\00:27:24.80
We keep talking
about the evidence finding
00:27:24.81\00:27:26.57
the scripture what
do you pre suppose.
00:27:26.60\00:27:28.33
There is no
evidence that I can find
00:27:31.67\00:27:33.25
that man is a innately unclean,
00:27:33.28\00:27:36.56
we're sinful
but god know whether
00:27:38.04\00:27:40.25
I can find label someone unclean
00:27:40.28\00:27:42.73
which would be saying
they are unredeemable.
00:27:42.76\00:27:45.10
Yeah. or
unforgivable or whatever it is.
00:27:45.13\00:27:47.55
Yeah. But for those
things that he called unclean,
00:27:47.58\00:27:51.42
animals for say
those he innately described
00:27:51.45\00:27:54.48
as being unclean in
other words they never will be
00:27:54.51\00:27:57.50
or can be clean and we
miss that point sometimes
00:27:57.53\00:28:01.95
We want to just
Olovson and say well now
00:28:01.98\00:28:03.66
god calls
everything clean. Yeah.
00:28:03.69\00:28:05.56
No, if it is not possible. Yeah.
00:28:06.07\00:28:08.05
But with mankind
there are periods of time
00:28:08.12\00:28:10.37
that someone
would touch a dead body
00:28:10.40\00:28:12.34
or they do things
that they will be called
00:28:12.37\00:28:14.10
or would be
unclean but that was more
00:28:14.13\00:28:16.85
spiritual
application not innately unclean
00:28:16.88\00:28:19.79
as a human being. so
we need to be very careful
00:28:19.82\00:28:22.35
how we take these
things and run with them
00:28:23.58\00:28:25.04
very quickly and I
know many teach that
00:28:25.07\00:28:27.23
you know it doesn't
matter what you eat.
00:28:27.26\00:28:28.57
The bible doesn't see anything.
00:28:29.34\00:28:30.31
Yeah, yeah. And then
why would Christ do that
00:28:30.32\00:28:32.85
Christ came to
clean up your heart
00:28:32.88\00:28:35.47
and mind and to clean up mankind
00:28:35.50\00:28:39.21
not really to change
the status of animals.
00:28:39.24\00:28:41.54
If an animal is unclean
and really science is finding
00:28:41.57\00:28:46.20
that those animals
that God called unclean
00:28:46.23\00:28:48.03
the assessment really
aren't good for you anyway.
00:28:48.06\00:28:49.68
One of the reasons why
doctors are doing so well
00:28:50.59\00:28:52.78
is because we are
eating our way to our grace
00:28:52.81\00:28:55.99
with our knife and
fork. You know we are digging
00:28:56.02\00:28:57.81
our grace with knief and fork.
00:28:57.84\00:28:59.41
Everything out there
is not meant to put him up
00:28:59.44\00:29:02.48
when I was in
undergrad at a friend that at,
00:29:02.51\00:29:05.89
we had come over from Arican
00:29:07.21\00:29:09.15
before he was
converted they dried
00:29:09.86\00:29:11.06
white caterpillars
that doesn't impress me.
00:29:11.09\00:29:14.70
you know then
when I got to seminar
00:29:14.73\00:29:15.90
with the friends
from Thailand who ate
00:29:15.93\00:29:18.46
was a capybara quit on
Monday you know it hard given
00:29:18.49\00:29:20.84
as stuff. But that never
intended before, you know
00:29:20.87\00:29:23.84
and they said, It's
pretty hard you guys
00:29:23.87\00:29:25.87
had chicken but we
had quit on monday.
00:29:25.90\00:29:28.09
You know, it's hard
to given up coatimundi
00:29:28.12\00:29:29.88
but I was never
intended to put in the mouth.
00:29:30.58\00:29:32.48
You know, I wasn't it wasn't.
00:29:32.51\00:29:33.68
so just because you
can put it on the plate,
00:29:34.90\00:29:36.50
doesn't mean you should eat it.
00:29:36.53\00:29:37.78
It was clean thousand
years ago, is clean today
00:29:39.27\00:29:41.77
and you eat it at
the peril of your health
00:29:42.02\00:29:43.97
That's right. Yeah.
00:29:44.00\00:29:44.97
You know I am speaking
specifically of the Verse
00:29:44.98\00:29:46.92
because that I know
he mentioned Roman 14 -
00:29:46.95\00:29:49.40
specifically what
he is talking about
00:29:51.31\00:29:52.58
as far as clean and
unclean is those things
00:29:52.61\00:29:56.25
that were sacrificed
are offered to idols.
00:29:56.28\00:29:58.92
They became ritually unclean
and so many heard there was
00:29:59.42\00:30:03.13
struggle in the
church and its not just
00:30:03.16\00:30:04.55
Romans 14 there were several
places we find that there was
00:30:04.58\00:30:07.40
this battle between
individuals in the church.
00:30:07.43\00:30:10.64
Some had problems
with eating foods that were
00:30:10.67\00:30:13.02
offered to idols, some
say that you know what,
00:30:13.05\00:30:14.64
what's idol it doesn't
matter. Yeah. As long as
00:30:14.67\00:30:16.79
the food is clean as
far as food wise. Right
00:30:16.82\00:30:20.66
That its fine and it
should be eaten and its god
00:30:20.69\00:30:23.35
gave for food. So that
passage is not dealing with
00:30:23.38\00:30:27.63
clean food as we
are describing. Right.
00:30:27.66\00:30:29.66
Things that should be
eaten. And you can see John how
00:30:29.69\00:30:31.50
that kind of
ideological battle would come.
00:30:31.53\00:30:33.76
Some saying well that
food is offered to Tamose and
00:30:33.79\00:30:37.78
other person
saying well Tamose doesn't
00:30:37.81\00:30:39.42
really exist. You
know its just because
00:30:39.45\00:30:41.12
it's nothing. He sat
there before a statue
00:30:41.15\00:30:44.97
and they sold it the
next day for half price.
00:30:45.00\00:30:46.96
I am buying it, you
know that doesn't even exist.
00:30:46.99\00:30:49.86
You have given too much
credit to the idol although
00:30:49.89\00:30:51.98
they say well no it was
offered to an idol so it is
00:30:52.01\00:30:53.95
somehow theologically
or ideologically defiled.
00:30:53.98\00:30:57.80
So, that kind of better and
that's what it's dealing with,
00:30:57.83\00:31:00.23
not with the idea that
the food per se is clean
00:31:00.26\00:31:03.24
or unclean but
offered to idols clean food.
00:31:03.27\00:31:05.96
Yah, very good, very
good. Well, thank you so much
00:31:05.99\00:31:10.02
for your questions. They
were very very challenging
00:31:10.05\00:31:12.70
today and we appreciate
those. If you have any other
00:31:12.73\00:31:14.98
questions feel free to mail
them in or send them by email
00:31:15.01\00:31:18.02
to housecalls@3abn.org.
We look forward to hearing
00:31:18.05\00:31:24.16
from you. Thank you so
much. Here we got a topic that
00:31:24.19\00:31:27.08
I don't think we covered here
a while, we are going to try
00:31:27.11\00:31:29.60
to do it in one program.
So we're not going to get
00:31:29.63\00:31:31.52
really deep in this topic
but it's a subject of the three
00:31:31.55\00:31:35.03
angels messages. You
know sometimes we take it for
00:31:35.06\00:31:38.95
granted pastor Murray
that people watching 3abn when
00:31:38.98\00:31:42.39
we say these words,
three angels messages they know
00:31:42.42\00:31:44.70
what we are talking about
and that's not always the case.
00:31:44.73\00:31:48.51
There are three angels in
revelation chapter 14 that
00:31:48.54\00:31:53.40
proclaiming message
from heaven to the world and
00:31:53.43\00:31:58.85
you know one would read that
sometimes and say well that's
00:31:58.88\00:32:02.28
an interesting message but
in the context of prophecy in
00:32:02.31\00:32:05.32
the context of where that
message comes it seems to be
00:32:05.35\00:32:08.34
a message for the world
that needs to be heated in
00:32:08.37\00:32:10.91
the last days. Something
that we should pay attention
00:32:10.94\00:32:14.17
to and something that we
should wake up and listen to,
00:32:14.20\00:32:16.30
coz if we don't it could be
at our parole in fact I would
00:32:16.33\00:32:19.47
suggest it would
be at our parole.
00:32:19.50\00:32:21.04
Oh very much so. And
so one of the reasons
00:32:21.07\00:32:23.57
why the Seventh-Day
Adventist Church has
00:32:23.60\00:32:24.87
recognized those three
angels' messages and then
00:32:24.90\00:32:27.75
the other angel of Revelation
18 as pertaining to the time
00:32:27.78\00:32:32.91
in which we live is
because angels are messengers,
00:32:32.94\00:32:37.86
that's what angel means,
you know it's a messenger.
00:32:37.89\00:32:40.09
Yes. And if this message
has been proclaimed to all
00:32:40.12\00:32:42.63
the world there is a parole
out there with the words of
00:32:42.66\00:32:45.70
Christ in his prophecy of
the end time that the gospel
00:32:45.73\00:32:49.38
will be preached to all
the world and then the end
00:32:49.41\00:32:52.11
will come. So the same
context of Matthew 24 there
00:32:52.14\00:32:56.98
of Jesus words we
find again in Revelation 14
00:32:57.01\00:32:59.94
and onward. And so may
be what we had to do here is
00:32:59.97\00:33:03.94
just kind of read through
each one and talk a little bit
00:33:03.97\00:33:07.92
about what that angel is
saying. That is so important
00:33:07.95\00:33:12.86
for these last days.
And let me profess by saying
00:33:12.89\00:33:17.36
something else to
before you read those.
00:33:17.39\00:33:19.17
We are 2000 years down
the line from Christ death
00:33:19.20\00:33:27.95
resurrection and
ascension to heaven. Yes.
00:33:27.98\00:33:30.52
People have been wondering
for 2000 years when Jesus
00:33:30.55\00:33:34.76
will come again and the
only evidence we have that seems
00:33:34.79\00:33:40.89
to be given to us by gods
word of his soon appearance
00:33:40.92\00:33:43.97
is not a time. There are
time prophecies but there is
00:33:44.00\00:33:47.18
not a specific time that
tells us when he is coming.
00:33:47.21\00:33:49.53
But the evidence that we're
given is prophecies or signs
00:33:49.56\00:33:53.92
of the times that the
generation that sees Christ
00:33:53.95\00:33:58.25
appearing will be living
in. and it seems to be that
00:33:58.28\00:34:01.69
revelation 14 is giving
us three messages that are
00:34:01.72\00:34:06.36
connected to these signs
that those that generation
00:34:06.39\00:34:10.39
that hears or sees those
things happening should be
00:34:10.42\00:34:12.70
listening specifically to
that message. And so if you
00:34:12.73\00:34:17.43
turn your Bibles with us to
Revelation chapter 14 we will
00:34:17.46\00:34:21.73
pick things up in Verse 6
with the first angel's message.
00:34:21.76\00:34:27.45
This is a message then
now given by the angels to the
00:34:27.48\00:34:30.21
entire world and not
given by angels literally but
00:34:30.24\00:34:34.28
given through messengers
that god is using through his
00:34:34.31\00:34:37.20
church or in his church to
the world depicted as angels.
00:34:37.23\00:34:41.39
Yes. Okay. You want to go
ahead and read the first one
00:34:41.42\00:34:44.76
or read the second
one. Go ahead and start.
00:34:44.79\00:34:46.24
Then I saw another
angel flying in the midheaven
00:34:46.27\00:34:49.26
having ever lasting gospel
to preach to those who dwell
00:34:49.29\00:34:53.00
on the earth to every nation,
Kindred or tribe my Bible
00:34:53.03\00:34:57.14
says tongue and people saying
with a loud voice fear god
00:34:57.17\00:35:00.70
give glory to him for the
hour of his judgment has come
00:35:00.73\00:35:04.11
and worship him who made
the heaven, the earth, the sea
00:35:04.14\00:35:08.46
and the springs of waters.
You know John you have got
00:35:08.49\00:35:11.31
a number of clues that
sort of give you the context for
00:35:11.34\00:35:14.10
looking at this whole
thing right after that. One the
00:35:14.13\00:35:18.06
message is being carried by
an angel, so it lets us know
00:35:18.09\00:35:21.57
of the exalted nature of
the message. Not just some guy
00:35:21.60\00:35:25.50
running with a sheet of
paper this is the message
00:35:25.53\00:35:28.42
that has been trusted to
angels and so it is one a
00:35:28.45\00:35:32.83
message of important.
This is something we had
00:35:32.86\00:35:35.09
sort of red flat
because it's important and
00:35:35.12\00:35:38.45
it's flying in the midst of
heaven. So these give us the
00:35:38.48\00:35:44.22
idea or the notion
that something very very
00:35:44.25\00:35:46.91
important is coming. It's
moving with speed and with
00:35:46.94\00:35:50.66
an exalted nature and is
something that you need to
00:35:50.69\00:35:53.14
sort of stop of everything
00:35:53.17\00:35:54.46
sort of hold the
presses as it where
00:35:54.49\00:35:56.41
and pay attention to what's
coming because this is going
00:35:56.57\00:35:59.64
to affect your salvation
and how you're going to be
00:35:59.67\00:36:03.64
prepared for something
that's coming on the road,
00:36:03.67\00:36:05.80
that this is sort of the
announcement if I can use
00:36:05.83\00:36:10.61
that terminology. So,
and of course it's the ever
00:36:10.64\00:36:16.76
lasting gospel. Now, we
say the three angels message it
00:36:16.79\00:36:20.61
is really one message with
sort of three segments with
00:36:20.64\00:36:23.45
sort of compartmentalized.
Right. And you can
00:36:23.48\00:36:27.01
look at these three but
they are not separate each one
00:36:27.04\00:36:29.22
builds on is part
of what goes on before.
00:36:29.25\00:36:33.23
So we have got the ever
lasting gospel which was the
00:36:33.26\00:36:36.39
good news of Christ but
this is saying given that
00:36:36.42\00:36:41.47
good news or some stuff
that appertains to that.
00:36:41.50\00:36:44.54
That we see it is very
very outside of this message.
00:36:44.57\00:36:47.82
So to preach those who are
on the earth, to every nation
00:36:47.85\00:36:51.10
try tongue and people
so this is not a colloquial
00:36:51.13\00:36:54.28
message by any
stretch of the imagination.
00:36:54.31\00:36:56.08
This is a world wide
message that is to effect every
00:36:56.11\00:36:59.68
single person living on planet.
00:36:59.71\00:37:01.07
It's almost a book in
to the great commission.
00:37:01.10\00:37:02.80
Yes, yes, very much.
Jesus, the last words Jesus
00:37:02.83\00:37:07.16
gave to his disciples was
the admonition, the command
00:37:07.19\00:37:12.13
almost to go and
preach, baptize, teach, make
00:37:12.16\00:37:18.36
disciples of and it
seems like this, that was the
00:37:18.39\00:37:22.92
beginning of the process
now this we find is the last
00:37:22.95\00:37:26.15
finishing work of that process.
00:37:26.18\00:37:28.39
I love that, I do, I do.
And also the fact that an
00:37:28.42\00:37:32.12
angel is carrying, it
doesn't mean there is no
00:37:32.15\00:37:33.73
longer in the hands of
man we are dealing with a book
00:37:33.76\00:37:35.93
that is fugitive in his
language. So that the fact
00:37:35.96\00:37:40.09
that the angel has just
is more a commentary on the
00:37:40.12\00:37:43.41
exalted nature of the
message not that god is going
00:37:43.44\00:37:46.63
to take it out of the hands
of the men and women who are
00:37:46.66\00:37:49.54
called to live out and to
preach and teach that gospel
00:37:49.57\00:37:52.60
and put in the
hands of angels. Yeah.
00:37:52.63\00:37:54.74
And so as we look at what
message, what is the message
00:37:54.77\00:37:58.59
on the first angel that
is going to every nation,
00:37:58.62\00:38:01.82
tribe tongue and people,
we know it's the gospel but
00:38:01.85\00:38:03.91
the gospel to contain
some key elements. Yes.
00:38:03.94\00:38:07.25
That this seems to focus
on that has been last sight of
00:38:07.28\00:38:12.35
overtime so while the church
may been doing good job of
00:38:12.38\00:38:18.63
teaching certain aspects of
doctrine, the Christian faith
00:38:18.66\00:38:22.69
they have not been doing
a good job in some of these
00:38:22.72\00:38:26.66
areas and so it's something
that the angels are bringing
00:38:26.69\00:38:30.10
to the world to say these
are key elements, these are
00:38:30.13\00:38:32.64
important truths that you
are not seeing that need do
00:38:32.67\00:38:37.09
really be expounded on in the
last days before Christ return.
00:38:37.12\00:38:40.66
Those which were
cleared but in the ages have
00:38:40.69\00:38:44.05
become somewhat obscured.
You sort of diverted your
00:38:44.08\00:38:47.24
focus so. He is saying
with a loud voice megaphone
00:38:47.27\00:38:49.51
in the Greek from
which we get megaphone loud
00:38:49.54\00:38:51.94
voice fear god, respect
him, glorify him, not be afraid
00:38:51.97\00:38:56.04
of him but respect him
with almost a difference,
00:38:56.07\00:39:02.00
differ to god. Get
yourself in relation with god.
00:39:02.03\00:39:05.68
Glorify, honor him, give
glory to him for the hour of
00:39:05.71\00:39:08.41
his judgment has come.
So God is looking at cases,
00:39:08.44\00:39:12.52
God is preparing to
come back and when he
00:39:12.55\00:39:14.88
comes back we find in
Revelation quite a bit later
00:39:14.91\00:39:18.02
he is, his reward is
with him so that it hird was a
00:39:18.05\00:39:22.36
pre-advent judgment,
the fact that when Christ
00:39:22.39\00:39:24.98
comes I am giving out
the goodies when I come, so
00:39:25.01\00:39:27.61
I am going to
determine who gets the
00:39:27.64\00:39:28.90
goodies before I come.
00:39:28.93\00:39:30.62
So hour of judgment is come
in it now, its going on now,
00:39:30.75\00:39:35.18
so get yourself in right
relationship with him now
00:39:35.21\00:39:38.25
because he is looking at
your case now and worship him.
00:39:38.28\00:39:42.03
And that's really, you
know that part is well really
00:39:42.06\00:39:45.70
I mean its well supported
by the rest of scripture and
00:39:45.73\00:39:49.74
we have couple of incidences
in the Parables of Christ of
00:39:49.77\00:39:53.66
the inspection of
guests prior to the return
00:39:53.69\00:39:56.96
from the wedding and
so there is an inspection
00:39:56.99\00:39:59.87
going on there, there is
a judgment of this one who
00:39:59.90\00:40:02.13
doesn't have on
a wedding garment.
00:40:02.16\00:40:03.87
And, so there is
this that going on,
00:40:03.90\00:40:05.48
I'm reading, I'm paraphrasing
00:40:05.51\00:40:07.38
from Mathew chapter 22.
Yes. There is the divergent.
00:40:07.41\00:40:11.30
Some wise, five wise,
five foolish in Mathew 25
00:40:11.33\00:40:14.66
and how those who
were ready went in with him
00:40:14.69\00:40:17.30
to the wedding an aspect
of attending this great event
00:40:17.33\00:40:21.67
in heaven that's
going on where Christ is
00:40:21.70\00:40:23.32
receiving his
kingdom. We attend by faith,
00:40:23.35\00:40:25.32
and when he comes
back he is rewarding,
00:40:26.49\00:40:28.15
he already
mentioned that he is rewarding
00:40:28.18\00:40:29.87
those who have
been faithful to him.
00:40:29.90\00:40:31.31
And so the scriptures
are very, very in harmony,
00:40:31.34\00:40:37.94
they are much in harmony
with this pre-advent judgment
00:40:37.97\00:40:41.25
that it has come
it's already happening
00:40:41.28\00:40:43.32
and when he comes
we find the executive
00:40:43.35\00:40:46.01
phase of it. He
meets out the sentence,
00:40:46.04\00:40:47.77
but we find that
the judgment part
00:40:47.80\00:40:49.92
the inspection part
has already occurred.
00:40:49.95\00:40:51.39
Yeah, yeah. Christ says
00:40:51.42\00:40:52.63
very plainly in Revelation
00:40:52.66\00:40:54.93
20:12, I'm coming
and my reward is with me,
00:40:54.96\00:40:58.29
when I come the
reward is coming with me.
00:40:58.32\00:41:00.48
So the
determination as to who receives
00:41:00.51\00:41:03.12
has already been made.
Just before that we find
00:41:03.15\00:41:07.04
let him who is
righteous, be righteous still
00:41:07.07\00:41:09.22
let him who is
unjust be unjust still
00:41:09.25\00:41:11.12
so that
determination has been made
00:41:11.15\00:41:13.36
when Christ
comes he is not coming
00:41:13.39\00:41:15.01
to make a decision.
He is coming to execute
00:41:15.04\00:41:17.73
a decision that's
already been made.
00:41:17.76\00:41:20.14
That's right.
That's right. Yeah.
00:41:20.17\00:41:21.41
You are going to go
ahead and go on there,
00:41:21.44\00:41:22.94
I think he mentioned
worship. And worship him
00:41:22.97\00:41:25.58
who made heaven and earth,
the sea and springs of water.
00:41:25.61\00:41:28.60
It's time to
disabuse ourselves of worship
00:41:28.63\00:41:31.37
of anything or
any other thing then
00:41:31.40\00:41:33.99
the one true God who
made everything you see,
00:41:34.02\00:41:36.75
everything you
are, everything you hope
00:41:36.78\00:41:38.13
to be that comes from
God. So realign yourself.
00:41:38.16\00:41:41.34
Reorder yourself to
worship him and him alone
00:41:41.37\00:41:44.19
don't let
anything discourage you,
00:41:44.22\00:41:45.44
distract you, dissuade you,
00:41:45.47\00:41:46.80
from worship of the
true and living God.
00:41:46.83\00:41:50.08
You know, we live in the
time especially within America,
00:41:50.11\00:41:53.19
but I think in
the developed world
00:41:53.22\00:41:54.43
we live in a time
where people for the most
00:41:54.46\00:41:57.30
part are
prosperous. And they have lost
00:41:57.33\00:41:59.67
the sense of
meeting God in their life.
00:41:59.70\00:42:02.08
Yes. And I
think, to a great degree
00:42:02.11\00:42:04.45
prosperity can
be, I didn't say yes,
00:42:04.48\00:42:07.86
but it can be a
tool of the enemy.
00:42:07.89\00:42:09.42
Yes, yeah, yeah. Or
we can get ourselves
00:42:09.45\00:42:11.54
so focused on what we
have or what we're pursuing
00:42:11.57\00:42:13.71
or what we want. Very
true. That we're missing
00:42:13.74\00:42:16.39
what spiritually
the thing that we need.
00:42:16.42\00:42:18.15
Yeah, yeah. Is
Jesus in our lives
00:42:18.18\00:42:20.23
and so this is the
reminder to comeback to worship
00:42:20.26\00:42:22.39
your creator the
one who made you.
00:42:22.42\00:42:24.20
Worship him
because, he is the one
00:42:24.23\00:42:27.66
that's gonna save
you. Yeah, having stuff
00:42:27.69\00:42:29.93
can be a very distracting thing.
00:42:29.96\00:42:31.51
You know many times
we go on a mission trips
00:42:31.54\00:42:33.51
you're called to go
different areas of the world
00:42:33.54\00:42:36.09
and to see people who don't have
00:42:36.12\00:42:37.94
all of the things
that we have in the states.
00:42:37.97\00:42:41.05
And yet they seem so
happy and so contain.
00:42:41.08\00:42:43.89
And may be that's the secret
to try to disabuse ourselves
00:42:43.92\00:42:50.92
or some of the
stuff. You know, because
00:42:50.95\00:42:53.89
stuff takes work, and
then when you get stuff
00:42:53.92\00:42:57.31
you spend sometime
protecting your stuff
00:42:57.34\00:42:59.48
and then sometimes
you want more stuff
00:42:59.51\00:43:01.18
and then you got to
get new stuff, and then
00:43:01.21\00:43:03.01
of course our
world where you have this
00:43:03.04\00:43:05.12
planned up the
lessons every couple years,
00:43:05.15\00:43:07.36
your stuff is
obsolete. So you gotta
00:43:07.39\00:43:09.26
upgrade you stuff,
you know, and you can get
00:43:09.29\00:43:12.02
very focused man on
your stuff and of course,
00:43:12.05\00:43:17.61
I don't know the
text, just now John perhaps
00:43:17.64\00:43:19.78
you know what it says
that a man's worth does not,
00:43:19.81\00:43:22.22
is not summed up by
the things that he has.
00:43:22.25\00:43:26.14
You know, so you're
not are more value to God
00:43:26.17\00:43:30.25
because you have
more stuff then me.
00:43:30.28\00:43:31.76
You know God
doesn't rate your stuff,
00:43:31.79\00:43:34.02
he wants you, he
wants your heart.
00:43:34.05\00:43:36.64
That's the only thing
that you have that he,
00:43:36.67\00:43:38.14
he is interested in
having, not your stuff.
00:43:38.17\00:43:40.33
And he is not
impressed with your stuff.
00:43:40.36\00:43:41.82
And of course you can't
take your stuff with you,
00:43:41.85\00:43:44.63
when you go. That's right.
So we can get so caught up
00:43:44.66\00:43:47.61
with the stuff that we
lose our focus, you know.
00:43:47.64\00:43:50.63
And that's one of the things
that this message is saying.
00:43:50.66\00:43:54.32
It's time to, to
concentrate on God
00:43:54.35\00:43:57.14
and put God in
right place in your life.
00:43:57.17\00:43:59.91
Put him on the
throne and keep him there,
00:43:59.94\00:44:01.56
because that's where
it belongs not your stuff.
00:44:01.59\00:44:03.62
Now Peter talks about
and I think its Second Peter
00:44:03.65\00:44:07.01
1:12 talks about
present truth. Yes.
00:44:07.04\00:44:09.77
He uses that term present truth.
00:44:09.80\00:44:11.09
There seems to
be in certain eras,
00:44:11.12\00:44:14.13
where there is a
present truth. Yes, Yes.
00:44:14.16\00:44:16.66
I think what he is
meaning when he talks about that
00:44:16.69\00:44:19.85
or he mentions that
he uses that language.
00:44:19.88\00:44:22.16
He is talking about
there is something that
00:44:22.19\00:44:24.23
is so pertinent for
that day. That if not he did,
00:44:24.26\00:44:27.61
if not understood
you could be deceived
00:44:27.64\00:44:30.89
and come on we can't be
so deceived either to think
00:44:30.92\00:44:34.52
that the Devil
doesn't change his tactics.
00:44:34.55\00:44:36.75
Oh! Yes. You know he
does change his tactics
00:44:36.78\00:44:39.30
and so he has as
well changed his tactics
00:44:39.33\00:44:43.41
in the last
days in certain areas
00:44:43.44\00:44:45.51
and there is some present truth
00:44:45.54\00:44:47.27
in this message.
And I mentioned that
00:44:47.30\00:44:49.41
Because there is the
Language here of worshiping him
00:44:49.44\00:44:54.00
who made heaven and earth,
the sea and springs of water.
00:44:54.03\00:44:56.57
Has a tie to the creatorship,
the creator God. Yes, yes.
00:44:56.60\00:45:02.82
And the fourth commandment
the language is very, very
00:45:02.85\00:45:04.91
similar to the
fourth commandment itself,
00:45:04.94\00:45:06.45
so it seems to be
part of this message
00:45:06.48\00:45:08.85
is getting people to
look back to their creator
00:45:08.88\00:45:12.32
and the day
established to memorialize him.
00:45:12.35\00:45:15.84
Because we talk about
some memorial creation,
00:45:15.87\00:45:19.05
but really it's a
memorial of our creator.
00:45:19.08\00:45:20.80
Yes, very much so.
Yeah, yeah, I think sometimes
00:45:20.83\00:45:22.82
we don't intentionally
but we leave our creator
00:45:22.85\00:45:26.74
when we talk about
this, the memorial creation
00:45:26.77\00:45:28.28
but its really a memorial of God
00:45:28.31\00:45:30.46
and who he is as a creator
to us and so this here seems
00:45:30.49\00:45:34.11
to be saying this is
your God he created you and
00:45:34.14\00:45:37.01
he also created a day
to memorialize his work.
00:45:37.04\00:45:40.60
Yeah. Yeah. And
this has been last
00:45:40.63\00:45:43.00
side for many
years. The Seventh-Day
00:45:43.03\00:45:44.57
being Sabbath. I
like that. I do. I do.
00:45:44.60\00:45:45.83
It tells you what
to do but it tells you
00:45:45.86\00:45:48.14
why you should do it
because he is your creator,
00:45:48.17\00:45:50.57
and it reorients your
heart and mind off of yourself
00:45:50.60\00:45:54.51
you know we live in I-world.
00:45:54.54\00:45:56.23
I-pod, I-phone,
I-pad you know just I
00:45:56.26\00:46:01.83
everything is I.
and this is saying
00:46:01.86\00:46:03.49
I is not it, it's
him it's all about
00:46:03.52\00:46:06.45
God your creator, right.
Yeah, well then he goes on
00:46:06.48\00:46:09.59
here we go right
to the second angels.
00:46:09.62\00:46:11.59
It says another
angel followed in verse 8
00:46:11.62\00:46:13.50
saying Babylon is fallen
is fallen that great city
00:46:13.53\00:46:17.09
because she has made all
nations drink of the wine
00:46:17.12\00:46:20.35
of the wrath of her fornication.
00:46:20.38\00:46:22.46
Babylon appears interesting
here how the term Babylon
00:46:22.49\00:46:29.93
is used because
obviously we can go back
00:46:29.96\00:46:31.81
and we think of
and this is intentional
00:46:31.84\00:46:33.88
we've got to go
back to little Babylon
00:46:33.91\00:46:36.64
to see what was going
on there to understand
00:46:36.67\00:46:39.15
what Babylon is being referred
00:46:39.18\00:46:40.79
to here and this is
I'm talking about the
00:46:40.82\00:46:43.07
literal city of
Babylon that does not exist
00:46:43.10\00:46:45.05
Anymore, but
spiritually what is Babylon
00:46:45.08\00:46:48.40
and why has it
fallen, I think to understand
00:46:48.43\00:46:53.21
this more fully too you
have got to read Revelation 18.
00:46:53.24\00:46:56.23
Yes. Yeah.
Which adds to the fact
00:46:56.26\00:46:59.56
of Babylon has fallen,
it adds to that come out
00:46:59.59\00:47:02.21
of her mild
people. Yes. So Gods people
00:47:02.24\00:47:06.15
here a great
majority of Gods people
00:47:06.18\00:47:09.89
are in Babylon as
Israel was once in Babylon.
00:47:09.92\00:47:13.20
Correct. And now
we're being called
00:47:13.23\00:47:15.00
to come out before the
new Jerusalem is established
00:47:15.03\00:47:18.77
with Gods kingdom.
Yeah, when you want
00:47:18.80\00:47:20.89
to get a very simple
handle on what Babylon is
00:47:20.92\00:47:23.66
it is a place
where Gods people are.
00:47:23.69\00:47:28.42
There are people who
love the Lord who God claims
00:47:28.45\00:47:30.95
as his own in
Babylon as we speak,
00:47:30.98\00:47:34.50
so we're talking about a
religious entity as apposed
00:47:34.53\00:47:39.15
to second entry.
Right. When if God puts
00:47:39.18\00:47:41.18
claims on them
then we're talking about
00:47:41.21\00:47:43.21
a spiritual entity,
so is Babylon a city,
00:47:43.24\00:47:45.63
is Babylon a town
or Babylon a country,
00:47:45.66\00:47:47.08
no, no, it's a church
we're talking about claims
00:47:47.11\00:47:51.41
to be spiritual.
It claims to be right
00:47:51.44\00:47:52.41
it is a religious
belief system or group
00:47:52.42\00:47:55.99
of systems that
God has for some reason
00:47:56.02\00:47:59.02
rejected he is
saying get out of that
00:47:59.05\00:48:01.15
you are in that
now, get out of that
00:48:01.18\00:48:03.42
and come directly
to me because evidently
00:48:03.45\00:48:05.80
what you are doing is
standing between you and me
00:48:05.83\00:48:08.66
or they are some
amount of error there,
00:48:08.69\00:48:11.47
there is something
going on in Babylon
00:48:11.50\00:48:13.69
in that belief
sector in that belief system
00:48:16.53\00:48:17.50
that I don't want, I
want you to come out of that
00:48:17.51\00:48:19.20
and then base your worship
on what has already gone.
00:48:19.23\00:48:22.18
Give glory to
me, give honor to me,
00:48:22.21\00:48:25.07
love me, fear me, respect
me, evidently those things
00:48:25.10\00:48:29.46
are not going on where you are.
00:48:29.49\00:48:31.60
That's right. Come out of that
00:48:31.63\00:48:32.99
and realign yourself with me.
00:48:33.02\00:48:34.59
That's very good.
And if you look at
00:48:34.62\00:48:36.15
Revelation 17, where
the women the Great Harlot
00:48:36.18\00:48:39.55
is called
Babylon the Great. Yes.
00:48:39.58\00:48:42.93
It's on her
forehead it's on her,
00:48:42.96\00:48:45.21
its her return
name. The women represents
00:48:45.24\00:48:48.47
the church always,
yes. A women is a church.
00:48:48.50\00:48:50.69
Well, this women is
a Harlot, so it's got
00:48:50.72\00:48:52.56
to be Apostate Church
or system that appears
00:48:52.59\00:48:56.53
to be Godly, but really
isn't. It's Doctrines, yeah.
00:48:56.56\00:49:00.11
And you know clearly here
when it talks about nations
00:49:00.14\00:49:04.91
drinking of the
wine of the wrath
00:49:04.94\00:49:06.55
of her fornication
what they are drinking
00:49:06.58\00:49:08.04
of is her doctrine, her
Teachings, Her doctrines,
00:49:08.07\00:49:09.88
correct, those
things that are not true
00:49:09.91\00:49:13.56
or pertaining to God
which is why this whole
00:49:13.59\00:49:15.66
message is being
proclaimed in the first place.
00:49:15.69\00:49:17.56
Precisely, yeah, and
this is shocking to men
00:49:17.59\00:49:20.17
and maybe
before that because God
00:49:20.20\00:49:22.08
is making number
of statements here.
00:49:22.11\00:49:23.14
One of the things
he is saying is that
00:49:23.17\00:49:24.55
there are religious
systems that look pretty good
00:49:24.58\00:49:27.76
from the outside
that pretend or purport
00:49:27.79\00:49:30.46
to be the real deal
but they are not, right.
00:49:30.49\00:49:32.97
So what you need to do
is look at where you are,
00:49:33.00\00:49:36.05
what you're doing,
your worship style,
00:49:36.08\00:49:39.05
your doctrinal
package look at that stuff
00:49:39.08\00:49:42.25
and make sure that it
is aligned with the will
00:49:42.28\00:49:46.16
of God that it is
aligned with the Bible
00:49:46.19\00:49:47.86
because evidently
there are chalets in there.
00:49:47.89\00:49:50.77
Yeah. Everybody
saying Lord, Lord,
00:49:50.80\00:49:52.78
is not the real deal,
right. So you better make sure
00:49:52.81\00:49:56.97
it is time to make
sure give him the fact
00:49:57.00\00:49:58.95
that judgment has
started and Christ is coming
00:49:58.98\00:50:02.53
that this is
going to end one day
00:50:02.56\00:50:04.90
and when I come and
what is going to be with me
00:50:04.93\00:50:07.06
you see this
everyone builds on it
00:50:07.09\00:50:09.05
you know it builds
on what goes prior.
00:50:09.08\00:50:10.84
Give it all of
that you ought to make
00:50:10.87\00:50:12.83
very, very sure
that what you're doing
00:50:12.86\00:50:16.59
spiritually that
the worship package
00:50:16.62\00:50:18.28
that you have taken
onto yourself is Godly
00:50:18.31\00:50:21.11
and Biblical and if
its not get out of it.
00:50:21.14\00:50:23.74
That's right.
Yeah, leave it alone.
00:50:23.77\00:50:25.09
That's right, you
know, there is a text
00:50:25.12\00:50:27.03
that I discovered
a couple of years ago
00:50:27.06\00:50:28.93
that was very
helpful for me in this.
00:50:28.96\00:50:30.23
Michael 2:11, I'll
just read here we don't have
00:50:30.26\00:50:33.52
to spend lot of
time with it, but Michael
00:50:33.55\00:50:35.05
2:11 says If a man should walk
00:50:35.19\00:50:36.72
in a false spirit,
yes and speak a lie saying
00:50:36.75\00:50:40.18
I will prophesy to
you of wine and drink
00:50:40.21\00:50:43.53
even he would be the
Prattler of his people.
00:50:43.56\00:50:46.64
So when this is describing
Babylon as making nations
00:50:46.67\00:50:50.49
drink of the wine of
the wrath of fornication
00:50:50.52\00:50:52.68
really is talking
about she as a system
00:50:52.71\00:50:55.65
are speaking lies,
hypocrisy, false things,
00:50:55.68\00:50:59.02
to try and get people
to deceive people into
00:50:59.05\00:51:01.96
believing
something that is not true.
00:51:01.99\00:51:03.70
And we find that
other angel in Revelation 18
00:51:03.73\00:51:07.93
is describing that at one point
00:51:07.96\00:51:09.77
she falls, the
whole system is collapsing
00:51:09.80\00:51:12.51
and there isn't any
time to waive her in staying
00:51:12.54\00:51:15.74
in her any
longer. Yeah, you know,
00:51:15.77\00:51:17.30
we live in a John
where there is so much
00:51:17.33\00:51:20.30
multiculturalism and
then so much pluralism
00:51:20.33\00:51:22.85
and to an extent
those things are good,
00:51:22.88\00:51:24.96
but when Christ says
I am the way the truth
00:51:24.99\00:51:29.48
and the life no
one comes to the father
00:51:29.51\00:51:31.66
brought by me that is
a very bigoted statement.
00:51:31.69\00:51:35.83
Christ is saying if
you want to get to God
00:51:35.86\00:51:39.22
you've got to come
through me. It doesn't allow
00:51:39.25\00:51:43.40
for any other means
mechanism to get to God,
00:51:43.43\00:51:47.18
but now either
that statement is true
00:51:47.21\00:51:49.79
or it is false. Right.
If that is a true statement
00:51:49.82\00:51:54.08
than we better come
to Jesus and lean on him
00:51:54.11\00:51:57.56
like our lives depend on
him because indeed they do.
00:51:57.59\00:52:00.48
You come to the father
through me so it makes,
00:52:00.51\00:52:05.54
it puts us on
alert to make sure that
00:52:05.57\00:52:09.69
what we believe,
what we are teaching,
00:52:09.72\00:52:11.86
what we're
preaching, what we are living,
00:52:11.89\00:52:13.36
has to line up
with the word of God
00:52:13.39\00:52:16.07
it has to and if you see
any variance then you've got
00:52:16.10\00:52:20.80
to share that
system because it is not
00:52:20.83\00:52:25.73
taking the true
God it is taking you
00:52:25.76\00:52:28.19
on a parallel of
course or even away from God
00:52:28.22\00:52:30.81
and that's what
this particular call
00:52:30.84\00:52:33.68
of the angel is
saying you've got
00:52:33.71\00:52:35.40
to watch out for.
And pertaining to worship
00:52:35.43\00:52:37.62
John 4:23 and 24
you know this verse
00:52:37.65\00:52:40.29
as well, well, but
the hour is coming,
00:52:40.32\00:52:43.01
and now is when
the true worshippers
00:52:43.04\00:52:44.59
were worship the Father
in spirit and truth. Both.
00:52:44.62\00:52:48.50
That he desires
such kind of spirit
00:52:48.53\00:52:50.65
those who worship him
must be worshipping him
00:52:50.68\00:52:52.89
in spirit and in truth.
So, there is this definition
00:52:52.92\00:52:57.25
of what it means to worship God
00:52:57.28\00:52:58.81
and that is in his spirit
and according to his truth.
00:52:58.84\00:53:02.17
Yes, yes, not that
dictates of our own heart.
00:53:02.20\00:53:04.28
So then you get to we
don't have a lot of time
00:53:04.31\00:53:07.82
here, but get to the
third angel's message
00:53:07.85\00:53:10.10
and it seems pretty
solemn, sobering none the least.
00:53:10.13\00:53:16.29
It says Verse 9.
Third angel followed
00:53:16.32\00:53:20.18
them saying with the
loud voice if anyone worships
00:53:20.21\00:53:22.02
the beast and his image
that is the subject of worship
00:53:22.05\00:53:24.25
again and receives
his mark on his forehead
00:53:24.28\00:53:27.32
around his hand,
he himself shall also
00:53:27.35\00:53:29.07
drink of the wine
of the wrath of God
00:53:29.10\00:53:31.05
which is poured
out in full strength
00:53:31.08\00:53:33.38
into his cup of indignation,
he shall be tormented
00:53:33.41\00:53:35.90
with fire and
brimstone in the presence
00:53:35.93\00:53:37.28
of the holy angels and
the presence of the lamb
00:53:37.31\00:53:39.67
and the smoke of the torment
essence for ever and ever
00:53:39.70\00:53:42.24
and they have no rest day
or night who worship the beast
00:53:42.27\00:53:44.87
and his image
and whoever receives
00:53:44.90\00:53:46.62
the mark of his
name. Here is the patience
00:53:46.65\00:53:49.94
of the saints this
is a key part as well
00:53:49.97\00:53:51.82
to the third angel's message.
00:53:51.85\00:53:53.26
Here are those who
keep the commandments of God
00:53:53.29\00:53:56.22
and the faith of
Jesus. A clear distinction
00:53:56.25\00:53:58.92
it seems like pastor,
between worshiping the beast
00:53:58.95\00:54:02.93
and those who keep
the commandments of God
00:54:02.96\00:54:05.76
and the faith of
Jesus. Yeah, there you know
00:54:05.79\00:54:10.88
to study this and to
sort of get the full meaning
00:54:10.91\00:54:14.73
You've got a sort of
bite of kind of big chunk
00:54:14.76\00:54:18.15
and chew it little
all together and the keys
00:54:18.18\00:54:21.96
that comes at the end,
there is a difference between
00:54:21.99\00:54:24.39
those who are
given the commandments
00:54:24.42\00:54:26.52
and the faith or
in the faith of Jesus
00:54:26.55\00:54:29.47
and those who are not
and that does seem to be
00:54:29.50\00:54:32.35
the dividing
line. And so the call
00:54:32.38\00:54:35.86
is to make sure
that we are command in
00:54:35.89\00:54:39.02
keeping and that we are
doing so in the faith of Jesus,
00:54:39.05\00:54:42.20
through the faith of
Jesus by the power of Jesus,
00:54:42.23\00:54:45.00
those are the self
check that's the mirror
00:54:45.03\00:54:49.03
just you sought to hold
up to yourself, am I keeping
00:54:49.06\00:54:51.13
and I keeping it
in the faith of Jesus
00:54:51.16\00:54:52.89
and once you have
assume, assured yourself of that
00:54:52.92\00:54:55.65
well, then you
on the right course.
00:54:55.68\00:54:56.89
And there is no
legalism here either?
00:54:56.92\00:54:58.77
No. That's why,
I think the writer
00:54:58.80\00:55:00.63
and the word of God is
very clear to show that the
00:55:01.26\00:55:04.31
keeping of commandments
of God is done in the faith
00:55:04.34\00:55:06.41
and power of Jesus and
done with the power of Christ,
00:55:06.44\00:55:10.19
the faith of Christ
working through us as well,
00:55:10.63\00:55:12.90
see this is Christ doing these
things through the power of
00:55:13.36\00:55:16.31
the Holy Spirit through
our lives to change us to, mold
00:55:16.34\00:55:19.23
us to put his law and write
in our heart, so that it would
00:55:19.26\00:55:21.62
naturally flows from us in
our experience of salvation
00:55:21.65\00:55:26.68
is a living in harmony
with God's commandments.
00:55:26.71\00:55:29.36
It's not an effort,
if I do this I am okay,
00:55:29.39\00:55:31.86
it's the change
that has occurred in one.
00:55:32.50\00:55:35.18
The Lord is telling us
to do any number of things
00:55:35.63\00:55:37.89
as we prepare ourselves
for the end of the history
00:55:37.92\00:55:40.42
of this world, but they
are done in the light of as a
00:55:40.45\00:55:43.84
consequence of a
working relationship
00:55:43.87\00:55:46.01
with Jesus Christ. It
is, it is, through the power
00:55:46.04\00:55:49.27
of Christ when I said,
I make this examination,
00:55:49.30\00:55:51.84
because if I don't
really have a function
00:55:51.87\00:55:53.73
related to Christ, I am
not even see these things,
00:55:54.07\00:55:55.85
I may not even be
aware of this things
00:55:55.88\00:55:58.26
Right. But But,
I am looking at you
00:55:58.29\00:56:01.56
Jesus, I'm praying to you
Jesus, am I doing the right
00:56:01.59\00:56:05.06
Thing, am I following
the right way, am I walking
00:56:05.09\00:56:09.10
in a faith group, that is
aligned with the word of God
00:56:09.13\00:56:12.98
Umm! Umm! And Lord if I am not
00:56:13.01\00:56:14.66
show me what's wrong and
then assist me as I try to
00:56:14.69\00:56:18.75
get in a right group. Yeah.
00:56:18.78\00:56:20.83
But this is calling
for radical maneuvering.
00:56:20.86\00:56:23.89
Umm! if your in the wrong
00:56:23.92\00:56:25.88
church, get out and
find the right one. So its
00:56:25.91\00:56:30.63
calling for bible study, it's
calling for consecration, it's
00:56:30.66\00:56:33.03
calling for surrender,
it's calling prayer and it's
00:56:33.06\00:56:35.80
calling for making a
move, if a move is necessary.
00:56:35.83\00:56:39.53
And even Jesus himself
said, that there are many sheep.
00:56:40.19\00:56:42.98
I have that are not of
form, but he goes on to say.
00:56:43.01\00:56:46.20
Yeah. Them also I will call.
00:56:46.23\00:56:48.65
Yes. Yes. and bring them in,
00:56:48.68\00:56:50.35
so there is ecumenical
if can even use the word,
00:56:50.38\00:56:53.81
although we don't agree
with ecumenism like it's going
00:56:53.84\00:56:56.43
on right now. Yeah.
00:56:56.46\00:56:57.43
Among all churches,
but there is a gathering,
00:56:58.01\00:57:00.67
it's probably the most
appropriate word of God's
00:57:00.70\00:57:02.72
people to each other and
to him, who with stand at
00:57:02.75\00:57:06.86
the end following
the message here, that is
00:57:06.89\00:57:10.56
given in three angels. Yes.
00:57:10.59\00:57:12.31
To make sure that they
are observing and worshiping
00:57:12.73\00:57:15.69
God in the way, that he asks.
00:57:15.72\00:57:17.69
Umm! What a powerful thing
00:57:17.72\00:57:19.16
to do it in the
way that the God ask.
00:57:19.19\00:57:20.96
Yeah. Yeah.
00:57:20.99\00:57:21.96
Well, our prayer it's
been a world win a rapid ride,
00:57:21.97\00:57:25.89
but we pray that you have
been blessed with the further at
00:57:25.92\00:57:28.22
least deeper understanding
of God's word according to
00:57:28.25\00:57:30.75
those three
angels God bless you.
00:57:30.78\00:57:32.31
We will see you next time.
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