Hello friends, grab
your Bible and a friend
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and sit back as we
explore God's word together
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on this edition of House Calls.
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Welcome to the
House Calls program.
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We're so thrilled that you
decided to join us here today,
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for another
program that we believe
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will be both
informative and a blessing
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I think to all of us.
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And, you know, with
me in the studio is,
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Pastor C.A.
Murray, and, Pastor Murray,
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is not just a blessing to those
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who we do the program
for, it's a blessing to us.
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Oh, very much so.
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So many times we've
talked about certain topics
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and we don't do a lot of
preparation for the programs.
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But we find that the
Lord just blesses and opens up
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even some new
understandings of things
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even in our own minds
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and that's just
an incredible gift.
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It is, it is.
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You know, the
spirit has promised that
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if we study the word
that God would be responsible
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to bring things
back when you need them.
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Now He didn't put in
there what you didn't,
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He didn't recall what
you didn't put in there.
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But if you put it in
there, it's in there somewhere
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and Holy Spirit brings it
back just when you need it.
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And then answering questions
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talking over
these topics is fun,
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and I like to challenge myself
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since I don't get to
do this that often to,
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you know, you give
yourself a little text,
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can I remember these text
and these things comeback.
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And we don't do an
excessive amount of preparation,
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we just go on our knowledge
of the word and prayer.
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And when I watched the program
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and I watched you, and,
John Lomacang, quite a lot.
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I see that
chemistry working that comes,
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because you both love the Lord,
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you both have studied the word.
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And you put that
combination together
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with the spirit and
it comes up well. Amen.
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Yeah, it is the
Lord that does this,
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and so we're want to
give Him all the honor,
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glory, credit,
everything it's all Him. Yeah.
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We're so thankful
that we have a chance
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to interact with you as well
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with the
questions that you send in.
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We want to make
sure that you know
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where to send
those questions to.
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But before we
talk about all that,
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or give you that information,
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let's go to the Lord in
prayer and then we'll dive in.
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I'm ready.
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Gracious Father,
we call upon you again
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to be the
centrance circumference
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of all that we do.
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We yield our lives again to You
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and ask You to fill
us with Your spirit,
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so that our words
are not merely our words,
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but that they are Your words
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and our thoughts
are Your thoughts. Amen.
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So that Christ is
felt and Christ is heard
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and Christ is
seen and understood
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in all that we say
no one needs to hear
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of His late deed in
history the thoughts of man.
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We need the mind of
Christ and so we pray
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as we yield ourselves to You,
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that Christ will be seen
in a marked and special way.
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And we thank you for your
promise to answer the prayer
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faith in Jesus' name amen. Amen.
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We want to give you the
place to send your questions to
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and there is
three different ways.
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You can send them by mail,
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regular mail in care
of House Calls at 3ABN.
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You can also
call the call center
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and they will take
down your questions.
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Some of you have
done that in the past
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and continue to do that.
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Others if you know
our webs--email address
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housecalls@3abn.org,
it's hosecalls@3abn.org
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that is a preferred method,
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but we take several different
ways of receiving the call.
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So we thank you all
for sending your questions
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and we do our best
to not only get to them,
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group them into
certain areas and answer them.
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But we just thank
you and all of you
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for sending those in. Amen.
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Pastor Murray, why
don't you start us off
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with our first question today?
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This one is
written to John and John,
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so I suspect you
had been discussing
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judgment at sometime.
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I'm grateful for your topic
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and your study on the judgment.
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There was so much
that you talked about,
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that was for me,
no matter what I do,
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I still feel not good enough
and that I'm never reassured
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that I've
eternal life, no matter
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how much I believe in
Christ and try to follow Him.
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I'm so imperfect that
it isn't just the fact that
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I know that we are all
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unworthy of
Christ's eternal gift.
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But that no matter what I do,
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I struggle, I'm
tired of struggling
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and I want to have the victory
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in my relationship with Christ,
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not just out of sense of duty,
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but out of my love for Christ.
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I'm struggling to learn how
to fall in love with Christ.
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Can you offer me any
tips and hope that I--
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about the things
that I've just written,
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I'm a struggling
Adventist, she says.
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You know, it falls in
line with some of stuff
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we were talking
about in the last program,
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yeah, that we taped
here, making him Lord
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not worrying about
the saving part, yeah.
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I think, one, so
many Christians are moved
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by their feeling
and not by the fact.
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Fact number one, we
touched on this First John 1:9,
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"If we confess, He is
faithful and just to forgive,
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you confess He forgives".
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That's a fact, that something
that God has chosen to do.
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When you come to Me,
I will not cast you out,
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either cometh unto Me, I
will in no wise cast out.
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So we have the promise
that once you come to Jesus
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and if you come in
sincerity, you are accepted,
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it really has
nothing to do with you.
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The promise is there
before you got that. Yeah.
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You walked into an
existing, whenever you jumped
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and board a train, it's
already left the station
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it's down the tracks.
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If you come He's gonna accept,
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that's a promise
you need to hold onto.
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And then one of
my favorite text,
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I have it there before me,
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Romans Chapter 8 verse 1. Yeah.
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"There is therefore
now no condemnation to them
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which are in Christ Jesus,
who walk not after the flesh,
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but after the Spirit".
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Now what is that saying?
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Once you come to,
Christ, pastor as you well know,
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Christ takes you as you are.
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You are out from under
the condemnation of the law
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and of anybody else,
you are now in Christ Jesus.
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You're not going to have
dominion over you anymore.
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This constant
nagging your feeling
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is a trick of the enemy.
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Satan wants to keep you bow down
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to think of
yourself as unworthy.
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Well, who is worthy? Right.
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Are you worthy? No.
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Am I worthy? No,
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no one is
worthy, Jesus is worthy.
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And He has chosen to adopt to,
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to accept you, to
sacrifices His blood.
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It is His blood covering
your life that makes you worthy.
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So don't worry about your
own sense of unworthiness,
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concentrate on Jesus.
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So many times we
look at our lives
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and we assess
ourselves on that list
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that we talked about
in our previous show.
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I'm not doing
this, but I'm doing this.
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I'm not doing
this, but I'm doing this.
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And if you look at the
list, if you look at others
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you'll always see
yourself as unworthy.
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What you got to do is
focus your eyes on Jesus.
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And Christ says, "I'm
not here to condemn you,
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I'm here to save
you. Go and sin no more."
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Many times our sense of guilt is
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because maybe we're
holding on to something that we,
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we should let go.
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Once your arms are open,
once your hands are open,
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once you let go,
lash onto, Jesus,
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hold onto Him for dear life.
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He will never let you go,
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He will never leave
you, nor forsake you.
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And then you can
take that wonderful text
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that I have in
Hebrews Chapter 13:5 and 6.
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You can boldly say,
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"God is my helper
what can man do to me."
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Once God is on your side,
He's never gonna leave you,
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never gonna forsake you
which is in Hebrews 13:5,
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Hebrews 13:6 says, "I can
boldly say God is my helper."
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So come out from
under condemnation,
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don't let the devil
play games with your mind.
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Once you are in, Christ Jesus,
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you are saved in, Christ Jesus.
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Bring your sins to Him, He's
faithful and just to forgive
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and to cleanse you
from all unrighteousness.
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You know, in the aspect
of savior there in Lord,
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I love the
assurance in those two things
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and that Jesus is saving
you while he is as your Lord
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saving you from sin. Yes.
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And the focus really then
is on Jesus with everything.
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Jesus is Savior, Jesus is Lord
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and as you make Him your Lord,
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I heard there also
she was saying that,
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she is struggling to
find the love for Jesus
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and falling in love with Jesus.
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But, you know, I think
that's an aspect of lordship
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that we missed out of unto
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we haven't talk
about that aspect yet.
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But, you know, we
love how He has saved us
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and what he has
done for us on the cross.
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But when where we
love Him to the point
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where His life
has become our life,
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or our life has
become everything with Him
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and it's not a
performance base thing from us
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it's the surrendering
to Him living through us
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that is going to change
that and keep the focus on,
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Christ, in this. Yeah.
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Maybe it's a
complicate way of saying it
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but i--all of us
struggled with this. Yes, yes.
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I have struggled with this,
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I'm sure you have
struggled with this.
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We almost create
this list like you say
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and if the balance
weighs a little more heavily
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on doing God's work,
then I might be okay,
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but I'm still not saying
I'm okay, I might be okay.
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I had to force my mind
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to allow God's
grace to take control.
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It's by God's grace that
He is saving me everybody
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in spite of myself and I
got to trust that in Christ work
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in my behalf not
in my performance.
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Precisely, so many
fall into that category.
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Who is worthy
really? No one is worthy.
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You really can't think of it
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in those terms as being worthy,
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what you can, what you
can think of it is a sinner
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in need of a
Savior and you've got one.
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You've got, Christ Jesus,
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who is living out His life
in you and, and through you.
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There is a thought that
just leaving my mind right now.
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I don't want to
say seen you in moment,
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because I don't accept that.
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But I had
something, it just, it just,
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it just slip in my mind.
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But it had to do
with the idea of,
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Christ, living
out His life in us.
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None of us is worthy.
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But His sacrifice, we've
got to live in that hope and,
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and in the belief that,
that Christ is sufficient.
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You know, I can say right now
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sitting in this chair I am say,
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now is that bold statement.
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Yeah it is, what Paul made
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the same statement.
But it's not boasting.
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Yeah, I'm ready to be
offered, I'm ready to go.
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I'm saved, He's not boasting
because I believe in Christ.
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Christ says if
you're confessing,
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if you're forsaking I'm
forgiving and cleansing.
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I'm trusting that promise,
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more than I'm
trusting Myself. Right.
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So in that promise I
am saying I am saved,
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because I don't know of anything
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that I'm constantly doing
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that I've not surrendered to Him
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and I'm praying for forgiveness
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of my sins every moment,
I'm studying, I'm praying,
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I'm preaching, I'm serving
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and I'm surrendered
that's all I can do. Yeah.
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And then He has got
to do the saving part.
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And He says if I do this,
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He is faithful
and just to do this.
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So I can boldly say I am saved,
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I'm in Christ Jesus.
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Not because I trust in me,
simply because I trusted Him.
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You know, this is a
message for brothers
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and sisters in,
Christ, in a church. Yes.
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Because I'll tell you,
there are so many times
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where we get into this
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performance
based thinking. Yeah.
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Who is worthy to go
and who is not worthy to go
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and it prompts us, it
motivates some in the church
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to be critical
of others, because
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they are not worthy
yet to go. Right, right.
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And somehow they are worthy,
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because they've
been performing well.
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Precisely, good
point, good point.
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And it's just
the wrong mentality,
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because it's so
works based. Yeah.
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I can't tell you and I
know you appreciate these too.
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I can't appreciate more those
who are transformed by Christ
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and are so--are much more
critical of their own life
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rather than the lives of others.
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They're living in
the grace of Christ,
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they're allowing
Christ to change them,
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and they're not worried about
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how the performance
of others is going to be.
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Or they are
concerned out of love
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that the brother
or sister in, Christ,
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be in heaven and
we're called here,
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there are certain
behaviors out there
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to help encourage
them to stay on the road.
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But there is nothing
in the Bible that I find
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that where to go
uncritically manage
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the performance of
another in the church.
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Yeah, there is backdoor mindset.
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It says be like me.
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And if you be like
me, I'm doing pretty good,
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then you'll be
doing pretty good.
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And the Bible says,
be like, Christ. Right.
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The person I need to line
my life up with is, Jesus.
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Even the most exalted
person in the church has worth,
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that you may never seek,
true, but Christ sees them.
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So rather than looking at,
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Pastor John, I've
got a look at Jesus.
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Because that's the only way
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I get a true picture of myself
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and my relationship with God.
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Not filtered through the
lens of anyone else's eyes,
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but filtered
through Christ Jesus.
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Amen. Yeah. Good, good advice.
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Here is a question from Floyd.
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And he is asking
here, sometime back he says,
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I wrote about a question
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about the cleansing of
the sanctuary in heaven.
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I'm unfamiliar
with the doctrine.
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I ask for some scripture
to read or a book about it,
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but I haven't
received an answer.
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Maybe you'll get to
the subject here this time.
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And so maybe we can
just share a few thoughts
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on the cleansing of
the sanctuary in heaven
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what we're talking about here.
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I'm gonna give us
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or at least talk
about three scriptures here.
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The first one is
undeniably Daniel Chapter 8.
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In Daniel Chapter
8, is where cleansing
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of the sanctuary
those words are found.
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I have committed to my
eternal memory Daniel 8:14,
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because when I was
taking Daniel in undergrad
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I was carrying an 'A'
throughout the whole year
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and on the
final exam I inverted,
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I put Daniel
14:8 instead of 8:14
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and my professor said
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you only missed one
question on this whole final.
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You wrote Daniel
14:8 and I said I know,
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it is 8:14, he says I
can't give you an 'A'.
00:14:08.35\00:14:10.60
He said no Adventist
preacher could ever. Oh, no.
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I said I just inverted
and he said no I'm sorry.
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Can't give you an 'A', so--
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You didn't tell about the time
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you stepped up in
front of the camera
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and said Daniel 14:8.
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That's right, I said
Daniel 14:8 instead of 8:14
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on the paper so I got a 'B'
out of course and not an 'A.'
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Oh, that's, that's discouraging.
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You're gonna be a
minister I can't give it to you.
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So it' Daniel 8:14.
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Daniel 8:14 it says
here, "And he said to me,"
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and this is the
angels speaking to Daniel
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"for 2300 days,
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then the sanctuary
shall be cleansed."
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And so being a
prophetic vision here
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the 2300 days is 2300 years
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and we can talk
a lot about this,
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but we're not gonna spend
time on the 2300 years now
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but what we want to say
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is that the
culminating event here
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after the 2300 years,
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pastor is the
cleansing of the sanctuary,
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or the sanctuary being cleansed.
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And so, you know,
what does that mean.
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Now we know what
during the great awakening,
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we know how it was interpreted,
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it was
interpreted by the Millerites,
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who were Baptist, and Lutherans,
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and Presbyterians,
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and Pentecostals,
and everyone else.
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He was interpreted
by those following,
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William Miller, the Millerities
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as they were known that
the sanctuary was the earth
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and the cleansing was by fire.
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Now those both
being leaps of faith,
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because there is
nothing in the Bible
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that tells us that. Yes, yes.
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But that's what
they had come up with
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and they understood
and they believe that
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if the cleansing was
by fire at Christ return,
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then Christ is coming in
1844 and we will see Him.
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Let's prepared to
meet Him and they did.
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He didn't come, we're still here
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and as those Millerites,
some of them returned back
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to their churches kind of
disappeared in the woodwork,
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some even lost their faith.
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But there were some
who said you know what,
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the dates weren't wrong,
the prophecy is not wrong,
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there is a
cleansing of the sanctuary
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that is occurring
now, beginning now.
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What is that we're missing?
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They discovered that
there was Bible reference,
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there was Bible explanation
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for cleansing of
the sanctuary. Yes, yes.
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And so we've got to go there
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to see really what this means.
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Right, we need to look
at the sanctuary service
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and determine this
idea of the sanctuary is,
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is the one, one
of the unique gifts
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of the Seventh-day
Adventist church to the pot,
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or the pool of what we
call systematic theology
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or doctrines.
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The idea, as you see
the sanctuary service
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as depicted in
the Old Testament.
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It is in microcosm what
is happening in the universe
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and that what happened
on the Day of Atonement,
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is happening in a cosmic sense
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on a wider scale
even in heaven now.
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So that at the end
of the Day of Atonement,
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you were either
clean or unclean,
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you were either in or out.
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And that is what's happening
in heaven as we speak that,
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when this service is over,
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judgment is set for
the universe for all time.
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That idea was put forth
by the early Adventist Church
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and it is our one
sort of giving the Sabbath,
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the other
denomination is keeping Sabbath,
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the other
denomination is keeping
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who don't eat unclean meat.
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But this idea of sanctuary
is one of the gifts that,
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this church had
been pleased to put
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in that pool of
systematic theology. Right.
00:17:58.61\00:18:00.62
And it gives us a
correct understanding
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of where we are in
the course of time,
00:18:02.38\00:18:04.42
of what's going on
in heaven right now,
00:18:04.43\00:18:06.44
and what's going
happen when Christ returns.
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To set this up
here we need to look at,
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you know, as far
as ceremonial services
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and the sanctuary service is
a another way of saying that,
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what we find in
the annual system
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that repeated itself
every single year. Yes.
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With the Israelites,
that and with the Jews that,
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that system really overlays.
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It's a shadow of the plan of
salvation that overlays time.
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Time I guess you call
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a probationary
time for this earth
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and that its God's method
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by providing His
Son Jesus to die,
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its His method
of saving humankind,
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He is saving all of us.
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And as we begin to, you
know, take a look at this,
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we go from the first day
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through until
the Day of Atonement,
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we see a daily service
occurring, called the Daily,
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which is the bringing
of animals for sacrifice
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when sins are committed
and that those Daily that,
00:19:05.45\00:19:08.54
that constant flame
going which was an indication
00:19:08.55\00:19:11.23
that God was still interceding
00:19:11.24\00:19:13.15
or He was at work
forgiving mankind of their sins.
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And then all of a sudden
we get to the end of the year,
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we find this word Atonement.
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Atonement being
made up of three words
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"at one ment". Surely.
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It's reconciliation with
God, it's the completion,
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of the
finalization of bringing man
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together with God again.
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Marriage is another,
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you know,
analogy of what happens
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when God and men reconcile.
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But this atonement is
Day of Atonement is a shadow
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of what God is doing in heaven.
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In the heavenly sanctuary,
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we'll go to that
in just a minute.
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But I want to read
from Leviticus Chapter 16,
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let see in verse 16:16 first
talking about the high priest
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on that day which is the
only one that could administer,
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or could intercede in
behalf of the people it says,
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"He shall make
atonement for the holy place,
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because of the uncleanness
of the children of Israel,
00:20:10.63\00:20:12.88
and because of
their transgressions
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for all their
sins and so he shall do
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for the tabernacle of meeting,
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which remains among them
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in the midst of
their uncleanness".
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In other words
there isn't pastor,
00:20:22.00\00:20:24.23
just a cleansing of
the sins of the people
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what He is doing is,
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is the
cleansing of the sanctuary
00:20:29.04\00:20:30.56
which is the container,
00:20:30.57\00:20:31.89
the symbolic
container of those sins.
00:20:31.90\00:20:34.23
Yes, yes, yes.
00:20:34.24\00:20:35.21
And we also know the
other imagery is very clear,
00:20:35.22\00:20:37.55
you know, Christ
is the veil as well,
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you know, He is
part of the objects,
00:20:39.90\00:20:41.29
He is part of
what's going on in there.
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So in many ways,
Christ, took on our sin
00:20:42.98\00:20:45.99
on His body as He
died on the cross too,
00:20:46.00\00:20:48.41
but this sanctuary
representing, Christ, as well,
00:20:48.42\00:20:52.45
is the container annually
00:20:52.46\00:20:54.51
for the sins that people
had brought for forgiveness.
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And during the
sacrifice of these animals,
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just an example,
the head of the house
00:21:00.99\00:21:03.14
would actually
lay their hand on the,
00:21:03.15\00:21:05.40
the head of the animal,
00:21:05.41\00:21:06.61
confess the sins over the animal
00:21:06.62\00:21:09.89
and then the animal would
be slain right there. Yes.
00:21:09.90\00:21:13.38
And then the some
of the blood would come
00:21:13.39\00:21:14.51
into the sanctuary to
be sprinkled on a veil.
00:21:14.52\00:21:17.62
And then this would
happen on a daily basis,
00:21:17.63\00:21:19.40
but then on the,
Day of Atonement,
00:21:19.41\00:21:21.82
this priest as we
just read would cleanse,
00:21:21.83\00:21:24.45
would make atonement
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and cleanse the entire sanctuary
00:21:26.04\00:21:28.18
and the sins of the people--
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Yeah, this was all,
00:21:29.53\00:21:31.14
of course as you
know not symbolic,
00:21:31.15\00:21:32.68
because you're
dealing with people
00:21:32.69\00:21:34.12
who could not read or write.
00:21:34.13\00:21:35.43
And so the sanctuary
service actually thought them
00:21:35.44\00:21:38.76
about their
relationship with God.
00:21:38.77\00:21:40.34
It thought them how
sins were transferred
00:21:40.35\00:21:42.40
and looked forward to
the coming of a Savior,
00:21:42.41\00:21:44.40
who would do all of
this, but ceremonially
00:21:44.41\00:21:46.77
as those sins were
removed from the people,
00:21:46.78\00:21:49.06
they were warehouse
for one of the better term
00:21:49.07\00:21:51.45
in the sanctuary and
then of course once a year,
00:21:51.46\00:21:54.09
the sanctuary
had to be cleansed.
00:21:54.10\00:21:55.90
It had to be
cleansed, blood was brought in,
00:21:55.91\00:21:57.93
other things were brought in.
00:21:57.94\00:22:00.02
And the sins were warehouse,
00:22:00.03\00:22:01.72
they had to be cleansed
and of course at that time,
00:22:01.73\00:22:05.43
all other people had to
make an ultimate decision,
00:22:05.44\00:22:07.58
you're in, you're out.
00:22:07.59\00:22:09.15
You're part of it
you're not part of it.
00:22:09.16\00:22:11.32
And of course at
the end of the day,
00:22:11.33\00:22:12.78
if they were not
part of that ceremony,
00:22:12.79\00:22:14.89
they were cut off. Right.
00:22:14.90\00:22:16.01
So in a wider sense,
that's happening now in heaven.
00:22:16.02\00:22:21.16
Christ, is deciding
our faiths in heaven.
00:22:21.17\00:22:23.28
One day, He will say
as Revelation speaks,
00:22:23.29\00:22:26.67
"He that is just,
let him be just still,
00:22:26.68\00:22:28.63
he is unjust, let him be unjust.
00:22:28.64\00:22:30.12
So that is the
final determination
00:22:30.13\00:22:33.11
and of course
Revelation 22 says,
00:22:33.12\00:22:34.98
"When He comes back,
His reward is with Him."
00:22:34.99\00:22:37.76
So at the close of
the age of this earth,
00:22:37.77\00:22:41.65
the sanctuary will
have been cleansed,
00:22:41.66\00:22:43.97
the sins will
have been dealt with
00:22:43.98\00:22:45.89
and God's
people are now ready to
00:22:45.90\00:22:47.59
inhabit eternity
and to live with Him.
00:22:47.60\00:22:49.34
So we see in that
sanctuary service,
00:22:49.35\00:22:52.14
a microcosm,
enactment of what is happening
00:22:52.15\00:22:55.60
in the universal sense
00:22:55.61\00:22:57.01
even in the courts
of glory right now.
00:22:57.02\00:22:58.83
Jesus sacrificing His
life or giving His life
00:22:58.84\00:23:01.54
for up on the
cross is symbolized
00:23:01.55\00:23:04.19
by the Lamb of God. Surely.
00:23:04.20\00:23:06.59
It takes away
the sin of the world,
00:23:06.60\00:23:07.73
it's not
proclaimed that lamb that goes
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that is put on the altar
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after it was slain and burned.
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That altar represents the cross,
00:23:13.62\00:23:16.18
but then from there,
we know the blood it goes
00:23:16.19\00:23:18.23
into the
sanctuary and that's where
00:23:18.24\00:23:19.60
we bring Hebrews into
play, because the high priest
00:23:19.61\00:23:23.27
was also a
representation of, Christ.
00:23:23.28\00:23:25.06
See everything in
the sanctuary of old
00:23:25.07\00:23:27.28
was a representation, a
symbolic representation of,
00:23:27.29\00:23:30.33
Christ, a shadow of
things to come. Yes.
00:23:30.34\00:23:32.62
Not the little
but a picture of them.
00:23:32.63\00:23:35.35
And so that's why I
think the devil is trying
00:23:35.36\00:23:37.89
so hard to get rid of
the Old Testament. Yes.
00:23:37.90\00:23:40.91
You know, I've heard.
00:23:40.92\00:23:41.89
I've heard so many times,
00:23:41.90\00:23:42.87
I'm a New Testament Christian.
00:23:42.88\00:23:43.94
I live by grace not by law.
00:23:43.95\00:23:45.92
There is dispensation
theory, there is so much that
00:23:45.93\00:23:48.60
sin is introduce to get us
00:23:48.61\00:23:50.02
not to look back
at the Old Testament.
00:23:50.03\00:23:53.09
And this is a significant
part of the Old Testament
00:23:53.10\00:23:55.49
in that it helps us understand
00:23:55.50\00:23:56.92
what Christ is doing for us now.
00:23:56.93\00:23:59.56
Pastor Murray, why
hasn't He comeback?
00:23:59.57\00:24:02.65
Why hasn't He comeback yet?
00:24:02.66\00:24:03.75
I mean, come on He's
been up there for 2000 years,
00:24:03.76\00:24:06.43
why hasn't He returned?
00:24:06.44\00:24:08.40
Well, Second Peter
tells us that He is not slack
00:24:08.41\00:24:11.20
concerning His
promise, but long suffering,
00:24:11.21\00:24:13.23
not wanting for any
to perish which means,
00:24:13.24\00:24:15.57
He is continuing
to intercede for us
00:24:15.58\00:24:17.69
as our high priest which is,
00:24:17.70\00:24:19.75
I think, where you're going to,
00:24:19.76\00:24:20.73
right in Hebrews
to find something--
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That's where I'm going,
I'm--I was trying to find,
00:24:22.52\00:24:24.96
it escaped me now but
the text I'm looking for says
00:24:24.97\00:24:27.59
that the blood
of bulls and goats.
00:24:27.60\00:24:31.74
And even now we have could never
00:24:31.75\00:24:33.06
really cleanse us for sin,
00:24:33.07\00:24:34.04
but Christ has once and
for all done that for us
00:24:34.05\00:24:37.77
and it's got to be
has done that for us.
00:24:37.78\00:24:42.36
And has-- 9:22
beginning with 22--
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That was 9 I'm in 9
and start with about 22.
00:24:46.96\00:24:53.09
Okay, "And almost all things
00:24:53.10\00:24:56.44
are by the law
purged with blood,
00:24:56.45\00:24:58.77
without the shedding of
blood there is no remission.
00:24:58.78\00:25:01.24
It was therefore necessary,
that the pattern of things
00:25:01.25\00:25:04.40
in the heaven should
be purified with these,
00:25:04.41\00:25:07.30
but the heavenly
things themselves
00:25:07.31\00:25:09.12
with better
sacrifices than these.
00:25:09.13\00:25:11.30
For, Christ, is not
entered into the holy place
00:25:11.31\00:25:13.28
made with hands, which
are figures of the true,
00:25:13.29\00:25:16.44
but into heaven itself,
00:25:16.45\00:25:17.74
now to appear in
the presence of God."
00:25:17.75\00:25:19.85
And so it walks us
through this process
00:25:19.86\00:25:22.54
that what we see on earth
00:25:22.55\00:25:23.85
is a pattern of what
is going on in heaven.
00:25:23.86\00:25:26.48
So when we study the sanctuary
00:25:26.49\00:25:28.50
doctrine here on earth,
00:25:28.51\00:25:29.93
the sanctuary
services here on earth,
00:25:29.94\00:25:31.69
we see what is
going on in a cosmic sense
00:25:31.70\00:25:33.98
in glory right now.
00:25:33.99\00:25:34.99
Look at 13 and 14
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that's exactly the one you're
looking for, verse 13 and 14.
00:25:36.08\00:25:39.98
"For if the blood
of bulls and goats
00:25:39.99\00:25:42.02
and the ashes of a
heifer sprinkling the unclean,
00:25:42.03\00:25:44.62
sanctifies to the
purifying of the flesh".
00:25:44.63\00:25:46.55
That's the one I want, yes.
00:25:46.56\00:25:47.53
"How much more
shall the blood of Christ,
00:25:47.54\00:25:50.63
who through the eternal spirit
00:25:50.64\00:25:52.23
offered Himself
without spot to God,
00:25:52.24\00:25:55.14
cleanse your
conscience from dead works
00:25:55.15\00:25:57.49
to serve the living God?"
00:25:57.50\00:25:58.78
There is that
cleansing again. Yes, yes.
00:25:58.79\00:26:00.65
So if the sanctuary
service point to, Christ,
00:26:00.66\00:26:02.66
as being our sacrifice,
00:26:02.67\00:26:03.70
doesn't it also point
to a Day of Atonement,
00:26:03.71\00:26:06.02
a reckoning, a
bring together of God
00:26:06.03\00:26:09.56
and His people in
the heavenly sanctuary,
00:26:09.57\00:26:11.43
where He is our high priest.
00:26:11.44\00:26:13.73
Absolutely, and that's what
00:26:13.74\00:26:16.34
Daniel 8:14 is talking
about of the end of time
00:26:16.35\00:26:19.08
the sanctuary will be cleansed.
00:26:19.09\00:26:20.71
In other words that process,
yes, of finishing the work,
00:26:20.72\00:26:23.92
of cleansing of the high priest
00:26:23.93\00:26:25.84
doing His last
right, so to speak,
00:26:25.85\00:26:29.94
Jesus interceding for
us, when He finishes that
00:26:29.95\00:26:33.03
and He leaves
the heavenly place,
00:26:33.04\00:26:34.92
He leaves the sanctuary,
00:26:34.93\00:26:36.09
it will be finished He
will come and take us home.
00:26:36.10\00:26:39.34
Precisely, let me back
off just one text, John,
00:26:39.35\00:26:41.48
sure, if we go to Hebrews 9:12
00:26:41.49\00:26:44.42
"Neither by the
blood of goats and calves,
00:26:44.43\00:26:47.23
but by his own
blood, he entered in once."
00:26:47.24\00:26:50.28
That's the idea,
that once a year,
00:26:50.29\00:26:52.44
once a year,
once for all eternity,
00:26:52.45\00:26:54.97
you know, it
transfers "Into the holy place
00:26:54.98\00:26:58.38
having obtained
eternal redemption for us."
00:26:58.39\00:27:01.64
So the high priest
went in once a year
00:27:01.65\00:27:04.37
in the ancient
sanctuary service,
00:27:04.38\00:27:06.04
Christ goes in one
time and when He comes out,
00:27:06.05\00:27:09.48
it is done. Right.
00:27:09.49\00:27:10.46
It is finished, the
sanctuary is cleansed
00:27:10.47\00:27:13.04
and our sins are dealt
with and we're now atoned,
00:27:13.05\00:27:16.54
we're at one with
God throughout eternity.
00:27:16.55\00:27:18.99
Now here's the
couple tidbits to study,
00:27:19.00\00:27:21.61
because this is
really kind of neat.
00:27:21.62\00:27:24.36
At the ends of
the atonement process,
00:27:24.37\00:27:26.46
the people were very,
it was an exciting time,
00:27:26.47\00:27:29.34
it wasn't a somber
time, when it was over,
00:27:29.35\00:27:30.94
yes, they were thrilled,
00:27:30.95\00:27:31.92
because their sins
had been dealt with.
00:27:31.93\00:27:34.46
And it was symbolic
for the present time
00:27:34.47\00:27:36.54
as Hebrews 9 verse 9 says.
00:27:36.55\00:27:38.72
At the present time
they understood the symbol
00:27:38.73\00:27:41.17
and that was the way
they declared their faith
00:27:41.18\00:27:42.99
in a coming high
priest, a coming redeemer,
00:27:43.00\00:27:46.85
who would literally do
these things for them. Yes.
00:27:46.86\00:27:49.81
But after that if
you read in a bit more
00:27:49.82\00:27:52.68
in Leviticus
Chapter 16 it talks about,
00:27:52.69\00:27:57.97
the cleansing, what the
cleansing actually does.
00:27:57.98\00:28:02.05
And it says here in
verse 29 of Leviticus 16.
00:28:02.06\00:28:06.90
"This shall be a
statute forever for you,
00:28:06.91\00:28:09.04
in the seventh month, on
the tenth day of the month
00:28:09.05\00:28:11.21
you shall afflict your souls".
00:28:11.22\00:28:12.58
In other words, you
shall search your own heart,
00:28:12.59\00:28:15.64
what is it, that is
between me and my God
00:28:15.65\00:28:17.88
that I want, I need to confess
00:28:17.89\00:28:19.77
to make sure that it is,
00:28:19.78\00:28:21.13
it is cleansed by
the blood of Christ.
00:28:21.14\00:28:24.00
And it says in
"Do no work at all,"
00:28:24.01\00:28:25.54
it was Sabbath,
ceremonial Sabbath day.
00:28:25.55\00:28:29.21
Verse 30 "For on that day
00:28:29.22\00:28:30.63
the priest shall
make atonement for you,
00:28:30.64\00:28:32.44
to cleanse you.
00:28:32.45\00:28:34.98
That you may be
clean from all your sins
00:28:34.99\00:28:37.37
before the Lord it is
a Sabbath of solemn rest
00:28:37.38\00:28:41.17
for you and you
shall afflict your souls,
00:28:41.18\00:28:42.76
it is a statute for ever."
00:28:42.77\00:28:45.49
And then if you go,
if you read else where,
00:28:45.50\00:28:47.29
here it talks about two
goats, they took two goats.
00:28:47.30\00:28:52.23
When they
cleansed the sanctuary,
00:28:52.24\00:28:54.55
those sins that
accumulated there
00:28:54.56\00:28:57.01
where
transferred to the live goat.
00:28:57.02\00:29:01.04
Now this isn't the
transfer to, Christ,
00:29:01.05\00:29:03.02
that has already occurred
00:29:03.03\00:29:04.00
in the courtyard in the altar.
00:29:04.01\00:29:06.34
This transfer was upon the goat
00:29:06.35\00:29:10.21
that didn't
bear the sins for us,
00:29:10.22\00:29:13.14
but that was responsible
for sin in the beginning,
00:29:13.15\00:29:17.77
Satan himself. Yes.
00:29:17.78\00:29:19.62
As a scapegoat it calls him,
00:29:19.63\00:29:22.33
all those sins were put on him
00:29:22.34\00:29:24.13
and a fit man a strong man
00:29:24.14\00:29:25.81
took that goat
out to the wilderness
00:29:25.82\00:29:27.40
and let him wander and
tell, you know, his end.
00:29:27.41\00:29:32.48
And that wilderness
was this bottomless kick
00:29:32.49\00:29:35.01
kind of an experience
that he would experience
00:29:35.02\00:29:37.14
and we find that language
use in Revelation Chapter 20.
00:29:37.15\00:29:43.04
This is wonderful at the
end of time we find that,
00:29:43.05\00:29:45.47
Jesus, comes after the
atonement has been made,
00:29:45.48\00:29:47.55
He comes back to take His
people to heaven with Him.
00:29:47.56\00:29:51.07
And it says in the beginning
of Revelation Chapter 20,
00:29:51.08\00:29:54.55
"I saw an angel
coming down from heaven,
00:29:54.56\00:29:56.58
having the key to
the bottomless pit"
00:29:56.59\00:29:58.23
that were
bottomless pit is abusos,
00:29:58.24\00:30:00.51
the abyss, the
nothingness, the void,
00:30:00.52\00:30:03.31
void earth with nothing on it,
00:30:03.32\00:30:06.41
because the earth
has been destroyed
00:30:06.42\00:30:07.57
by the brightness of His coming.
00:30:07.58\00:30:09.48
It says "He had a
great chain in His hand
00:30:09.49\00:30:11.21
and He laid hold of the dragon,
00:30:11.22\00:30:13.31
the serpent of old who
is the devil and Satan,
00:30:13.32\00:30:15.62
and bound him for 1000 years."
00:30:15.63\00:30:17.62
This imagery pastor, this
imagery is so similar. Yes.
00:30:17.63\00:30:22.03
To that fit man
grabbing that goat
00:30:22.04\00:30:24.38
and taking him
out to the wilderness
00:30:24.39\00:30:26.24
and leaving him there to wander.
00:30:26.25\00:30:29.41
We can't, its undeniable.
00:30:29.42\00:30:31.17
This is the literal fulfillment
00:30:31.18\00:30:32.69
of that event. Yes.
00:30:32.70\00:30:34.47
Where sin is forever then,
00:30:34.48\00:30:37.80
put on Satan to then
wander and to. Precisely.
00:30:37.81\00:30:42.04
To die eventually
in the lake of fire.
00:30:42.05\00:30:43.93
It's very powerful study,
00:30:43.94\00:30:45.25
now this study could consume
several programs by itself,
00:30:45.26\00:30:48.65
because in the text
you read in Leviticus 16
00:30:48.66\00:30:50.79
were it says, it's making a--
00:30:50.80\00:30:53.41
Lord is making atonement
for you just a few verses later,
00:30:53.42\00:30:56.02
He also says in
that same service
00:30:56.03\00:30:58.24
He's making
atonement for the sanctuary,
00:30:58.25\00:31:00.11
for the
cleansing of the sanctuary.
00:31:00.12\00:31:01.57
So this cleansing
of the sanctuary is
00:31:01.58\00:31:05.96
cleansing us,
it's atonement for us,
00:31:05.97\00:31:07.69
it's also atonement for
the place and it is this,
00:31:07.70\00:31:10.87
this melding of the
two that we understand
00:31:10.88\00:31:14.48
Christ is taking care
once and for all, for us.
00:31:14.49\00:31:16.85
So that when this is done,
salvation has been completed,
00:31:16.86\00:31:20.47
the benefits of, Christ,
00:31:20.48\00:31:22.01
sacrifice on the
cross has been completed
00:31:22.02\00:31:25.02
and we are now at one with God.
00:31:25.03\00:31:27.45
This is a great study that
I would encourage any of you,
00:31:27.46\00:31:30.85
you really want to bite
down on something dare I say.
00:31:30.86\00:31:33.51
This is a good one
because this--first of all
00:31:33.52\00:31:35.23
we refer you to know
what Christ is doing,
00:31:35.24\00:31:37.24
but also anchors you as
to what's going on right now.
00:31:37.25\00:31:40.57
What is happening
in the stream of time?
00:31:40.58\00:31:43.19
It gives you an understanding of
00:31:43.20\00:31:44.52
where we are in
relation to Christ
00:31:44.53\00:31:46.57
and where we are
in a general sense
00:31:46.58\00:31:48.54
in relation to the
end of the world, yeah.
00:31:48.55\00:31:50.64
Compare
Leviticus 16 with Hebrews
00:31:50.65\00:31:52.91
and the chapters we were reading
00:31:52.92\00:31:53.99
from there 7 through
9, I mean 7 through 10.
00:31:54.00\00:31:57.00
Through 10 yes, yes, yes.
00:31:57.01\00:31:57.98
And you'll find just a
better understanding of Hebrews
00:31:57.99\00:32:01.18
that you had not
understood before
00:32:01.19\00:32:03.35
and of course what,
Christ, is doing now.
00:32:03.36\00:32:06.14
This is exciting
stuff, this is you're doing
00:32:06.15\00:32:08.90
advance Bible
study when you work--
00:32:08.91\00:32:10.47
This is neat.
00:32:10.48\00:32:11.45
But this will come through
to you in a beautiful sense
00:32:11.46\00:32:15.09
and this will
anchor your faith in God
00:32:15.10\00:32:18.07
in a powerful way and
really give you confidence that,
00:32:18.08\00:32:21.43
Christ, is working for
you, with you and through you
00:32:21.44\00:32:26.49
to get you into
heaven with Him. Amen.
00:32:26.50\00:32:28.17
Yeah, praise God.
Yeah, another quick one.
00:32:28.18\00:32:31.39
This person simply wants
to know, I think its, Trevor.
00:32:31.40\00:32:36.07
Where do we get 10
percent from where is it,
00:32:36.08\00:32:39.31
does it say that 10
percent is your tithe.
00:32:39.32\00:32:44.06
When a Sabbath--from
Malachi through that
00:32:44.07\00:32:46.75
tithe is an important part
of our relationship with God.
00:32:46.76\00:32:49.89
And God has promised,
00:32:49.90\00:32:51.79
He has put
Himself on the line to say
00:32:51.80\00:32:54.12
when we pay our tithes, when
we give God what He deserves,
00:32:54.13\00:32:58.88
He will make sure that
we get what we deserve.
00:32:58.89\00:33:03.66
He says "prove Me, test
Me, try Me now herewith,
00:33:03.67\00:33:07.85
saith the LORD of
hosts, if I will not open you
00:33:07.86\00:33:10.10
the windows of heaven,
and pour you out a blessing,
00:33:10.11\00:33:13.15
that there shall not be
room enough to receive it."
00:33:13.16\00:33:15.24
And I maintain,
John, that so many times
00:33:15.25\00:33:18.29
we limit our
blessings to finance
00:33:18.30\00:33:20.15
and they do include finance.
00:33:20.16\00:33:21.85
But having a good
friend is a blessing.
00:33:21.86\00:33:25.51
Going to a church that preaches
00:33:25.52\00:33:27.20
the whole truth and nothing,
but the truth is a blessing.
00:33:27.21\00:33:30.38
Being able to sleep
at night knowing that
00:33:30.39\00:33:32.16
you've treated your
fellows honestly is a blessing.
00:33:32.17\00:33:36.59
Having a secure
marriage, a husband, or wife,
00:33:36.60\00:33:39.04
who loves you and says
it to you is a blessing.
00:33:39.05\00:33:41.97
Having children that
honor their parents by obeying,
00:33:41.98\00:33:46.72
staying out of
trouble is a blessing.
00:33:46.73\00:33:49.10
There are so many
blessings that are in addition
00:33:49.11\00:33:51.53
to just having
a fat bank account
00:33:51.54\00:33:54.04
that we turn to reject,
00:33:54.05\00:33:55.92
because we may not
have a fat back account,
00:33:55.93\00:33:57.51
well, God is not
keeping His word.
00:33:57.52\00:33:58.80
Oh, He is, look at
the total of your life.
00:33:58.81\00:34:02.48
Tell you a quick story.
00:34:02.49\00:34:03.46
There is a song that I sing,
00:34:03.47\00:34:06.34
it's on my CD and when I
talk to the writer of the song
00:34:06.35\00:34:09.64
to get permission to do it.
00:34:09.65\00:34:11.21
She told me it came from
an experience that she had,
00:34:11.22\00:34:14.15
Thanksgiving Day,
everybody had come to our house
00:34:14.16\00:34:16.66
all her
relatives, dinner is over,
00:34:16.67\00:34:20.40
husband sleep on in
front of cot watching football,
00:34:20.41\00:34:22.73
football watching him.
00:34:22.74\00:34:23.86
She is in a kitchen looking
at this mountain of dishes
00:34:23.87\00:34:26.75
and dishwasher is not working
00:34:26.76\00:34:28.54
and she is really, really angry,
00:34:28.55\00:34:29.82
because she has got
this mountain of dishes.
00:34:29.83\00:34:32.45
She said, nobody
is here to help me
00:34:32.46\00:34:33.91
I got this mountain
of dishes and just upset
00:34:33.92\00:34:37.43
and then the Lord said to her,
00:34:37.44\00:34:39.21
think about it first of all
00:34:39.22\00:34:40.49
you've got a house
to bring people to.
00:34:40.50\00:34:42.83
You've got
friends that want to come.
00:34:42.84\00:34:45.55
You have enough finances
to prepare all this food.
00:34:45.56\00:34:48.67
And you've had
the health to cooking.
00:34:48.68\00:34:50.90
So stop
complaining and get to washing
00:34:50.91\00:34:53.65
and so she says,
00:34:53.66\00:34:54.78
she say, you know,
the Lord convicted me.
00:34:54.79\00:34:57.03
And she was
going to call the song,
00:34:57.04\00:34:58.95
her name is Gale Murphy,
00:34:58.96\00:34:59.93
she wasn't going
to call the song,
00:34:59.94\00:35:00.91
the dish washing song.
00:35:00.92\00:35:02.06
But she call it Jesus lifts me.
00:35:02.07\00:35:04.28
And basically she said,
00:35:04.29\00:35:05.30
you know, when I
looked at my life,
00:35:05.31\00:35:07.24
I had so much
to be thankful for.
00:35:07.25\00:35:09.13
Yeah, I've had a
mountain of dishes,
00:35:09.14\00:35:10.66
but it meant that
there were mountain of people
00:35:10.67\00:35:12.17
in this house little
while ago, who loved us enough,
00:35:12.18\00:35:14.74
who we loved enough to
share Thanksgiving Day with.
00:35:14.75\00:35:17.28
So, you know, you got to count
your blessings. Thant's right.
00:35:17.29\00:35:19.62
You know, before you complain,
00:35:19.63\00:35:20.60
because God is
so very, very good.
00:35:20.61\00:35:22.08
And the whole system of tithing
00:35:22.09\00:35:23.27
isn't giving to get. Right.
00:35:23.28\00:35:26.09
It's returning to God
what He has already given.
00:35:26.10\00:35:28.67
Yeah, yeah and the truth
is you can't beat God giving.
00:35:28.68\00:35:30.88
So when you give
he will see that--
00:35:30.89\00:35:33.09
See to it that's you
get, so now the text,
00:35:33.10\00:35:34.59
and here is the text.
00:35:34.60\00:35:35.57
Genesis 28:2 I
think, Genesis 28,
00:35:35.58\00:35:42.97
you know, I--this is the Bible
00:35:46.07\00:35:47.71
that I keep in my office,
I doesn't use that often,
00:35:47.72\00:35:49.76
in our new Bible, the
pages are stick together.
00:35:49.77\00:35:52.05
Genesis 28:22 I want 22, 28: 22.
00:35:54.91\00:36:02.76
"And, and this stone,
which I have set for a pillar,
00:36:02.77\00:36:06.45
shall be God's house, and
of all that thou shalt give me
00:36:06.46\00:36:11.34
I will surely give
the tenth unto thee".
00:36:11.35\00:36:15.18
The tenth unto thee, and
so that is one of many texts
00:36:15.19\00:36:20.10
where we've established
God's portion as a tenth.
00:36:20.11\00:36:24.88
I've had people, I had a woman
come to my church years ago
00:36:24.89\00:36:27.84
and she brought
me her, her budget.
00:36:27.85\00:36:30.16
And she said I cannot pay tithe,
00:36:30.17\00:36:33.30
I pay rent this, this is my gas,
00:36:33.31\00:36:35.48
I go to work, this is my food,
00:36:35.49\00:36:38.84
this is my
electrical, this is my phone
00:36:38.85\00:36:41.47
I don't have the
money to pay tithe.
00:36:41.48\00:36:44.64
And I told her living
that close to the edge,
00:36:44.65\00:36:47.64
you cannot afford
not to pay tithes,
00:36:47.65\00:36:50.32
because if one little
thing goes out of line,
00:36:50.33\00:36:52.55
you have no
money to do anything--
00:36:52.56\00:36:54.34
You need God's blessing.
00:36:54.35\00:36:55.32
You need God's blessing on that
00:36:55.33\00:36:56.41
because you're
right at the edge,
00:36:56.42\00:36:58.33
you don't have any bigger room.
00:36:58.34\00:37:00.20
You need God more than you think
00:37:00.21\00:37:01.87
and so she tried it
and the Lord worked it out
00:37:01.88\00:37:04.78
and she got a raise at
her job and I assured her,
00:37:04.79\00:37:08.72
that raise wouldn't have
come unless you trusted God,
00:37:08.73\00:37:12.12
but she came back,
she said I can do it now.
00:37:12.13\00:37:14.31
But see, it's not
because you can do it,
00:37:14.32\00:37:16.93
is because you love
God enough to do it,
00:37:16.94\00:37:19.04
whether you see it or
not, because that's God's money
00:37:19.05\00:37:22.74
and you don't want to be--
00:37:22.75\00:37:24.55
You know, the little
story there in Malachi 3
00:37:24.56\00:37:26.76
where in heavenly rob
thee, stealing from God.
00:37:26.77\00:37:29.20
Oh, what's stealing,
00:37:29.21\00:37:30.18
taking what doesn't
belong to you. Right.
00:37:30.19\00:37:32.54
In tithe, and an
offering, and of course.
00:37:32.55\00:37:34.76
you're, you're
nine-tens with God
00:37:34.77\00:37:37.53
is better than
ten-tens without Him.
00:37:37.54\00:37:39.31
Absolutely. Surely.
00:37:39.32\00:37:40.87
Good, good, there is
a quick question here
00:37:40.88\00:37:43.85
from, Aubrey,
asking from Matthew,
00:37:43.86\00:37:47.53
the Great Commission Matthew 28,
00:37:47.54\00:37:50.13
To preach teach him
baptized as a lay person
00:37:50.14\00:37:52.99
when are we ready
to baptized others
00:37:53.00\00:37:54.69
as the great
commission says to do.
00:37:54.70\00:37:57.55
Or there are
present or possible present
00:37:57.56\00:37:59.63
and future
implications about this issue.
00:37:59.64\00:38:02.62
Well, you know, the
preaching and teaching
00:38:02.63\00:38:05.47
comes as the Lord
leads us to give testimony,
00:38:05.48\00:38:09.11
every opportunity that
we possibly can confined
00:38:09.12\00:38:11.94
to share the love of God,
00:38:11.95\00:38:13.60
what He has done
for us personally.
00:38:13.61\00:38:15.77
The baptizing it seems to be,
00:38:15.78\00:38:18.95
you know, it's
indicated from the Old Testament
00:38:18.96\00:38:20.78
the Book of Acts
00:38:20.79\00:38:22.69
and the church
itself is it grew,
00:38:22.70\00:38:25.22
all the baptized it
was from the apostles
00:38:25.23\00:38:28.06
are those that
were specially ordained
00:38:28.07\00:38:29.78
or had their hands laid
on them for that purpose.
00:38:29.79\00:38:32.53
And today as a church
has grown to a much larger,
00:38:32.54\00:38:35.86
a larger church
that responsibility
00:38:35.87\00:38:38.41
has flown upon the pastors.
00:38:38.42\00:38:41.02
And those who
ordains specifically
00:38:41.03\00:38:42.79
as the heads of the
church to perform that
00:38:42.80\00:38:44.76
and so typically
that's we have seen in,
00:38:44.77\00:38:48.17
any baptism service even if
it's a large baptism service
00:38:48.18\00:38:50.76
who with many people
you get various pastors
00:38:50.77\00:38:52.61
from the area that
come and do the baptizing.
00:38:52.62\00:38:55.10
And I've seen some occasions
00:38:55.11\00:38:56.31
where the pastor
simply not available
00:38:56.32\00:38:58.97
and through the
conference or something
00:38:58.98\00:39:00.57
there is an okay for
the elder to administer
00:39:00.58\00:39:03.09
and to do some baptizing,
but generally it's done by
00:39:03.10\00:39:07.02
those with their hands
that have been laid on them
00:39:07.03\00:39:09.29
specifically for the purpose
00:39:09.30\00:39:10.36
of bringing the
gospel as a pastor,
00:39:10.37\00:39:12.58
to those for, for baptism.
00:39:12.59\00:39:15.56
Now having said
that it doesn't--it
00:39:15.57\00:39:16.75
in no ways
negates the obligation
00:39:16.76\00:39:19.62
of all of God's
people to live for Christ
00:39:19.63\00:39:22.18
and to evangelize
for Christ. Right.
00:39:22.19\00:39:24.04
Now question that
commission was given
00:39:24.05\00:39:25.71
there was no
church superstructure,
00:39:25.72\00:39:29.50
you know, to
sort of triage things,
00:39:29.51\00:39:31.10
to sort of care
of things and so,
00:39:31.11\00:39:32.60
Christ,
commissioned His disciples,
00:39:32.61\00:39:34.11
teach them and then
baptized them in Jesus name.
00:39:34.12\00:39:36.51
And of course that went
on for many, many centuries
00:39:36.52\00:39:39.84
and as a church
began to get structure
00:39:39.85\00:39:43.05
its set aside people
even as those disciples were
00:39:43.06\00:39:46.03
set aside to do that.
00:39:46.04\00:39:48.12
So now we have
a church structure
00:39:48.13\00:39:50.18
that baptizes people
00:39:50.19\00:39:51.98
into membership
in the church of God.
00:39:51.99\00:39:54.08
But still all of us
are called to be priest
00:39:54.09\00:39:56.12
and to teach and to instruct
00:39:56.13\00:39:57.95
and to prepare
people for baptism
00:39:57.96\00:40:00.53
through our instruction,
through Bible study,
00:40:00.54\00:40:02.89
through evangelism.
00:40:02.90\00:40:03.89
Yeah, and it
talks about adding it
00:40:03.90\00:40:05.13
adding to the church
those who are being saved. Yes.
00:40:05.14\00:40:07.62
In the context of the baptism--
00:40:07.63\00:40:09.33
That was occurring,
00:40:09.34\00:40:10.31
so they were being
added to the church.
00:40:10.32\00:40:12.23
It's interesting,
the church that I,
00:40:12.24\00:40:15.68
I you know,
pastoring when I got there,
00:40:15.69\00:40:19.39
there were some who did not
know when they are baptized,
00:40:19.40\00:40:21.53
they become part of the church.
00:40:21.54\00:40:23.43
They weren't told that.
00:40:23.44\00:40:25.49
I say how, how do
you now know that,
00:40:25.50\00:40:27.35
but I guess the person
that was doing the baptism.
00:40:27.36\00:40:30.16
And so that's why
to a great degree,
00:40:30.17\00:40:33.31
one of the big reasons
that you have individuals
00:40:33.32\00:40:35.54
who are ordained,
they understand baptism,
00:40:35.55\00:40:38.27
they help to get
people ready and to baptized,
00:40:38.28\00:40:40.67
because, there
baptism is a big issue.
00:40:40.68\00:40:43.57
It is important thing
and you want to do it right
00:40:43.58\00:40:46.49
and you want to make sure that
00:40:46.50\00:40:47.47
those who are being baptized,
or ready to be baptized,
00:40:47.48\00:40:50.20
know what decision you're making
00:40:50.21\00:40:51.94
and know what's
happening as a result to that.
00:40:51.95\00:40:54.44
If you had everybody out there
00:40:54.45\00:40:56.11
grabbing a pool of
water baptizing them now
00:40:56.12\00:40:58.38
with the structure, the
church is the way it is. Yeah.
00:40:58.39\00:41:00.55
How do you know, how
God's work is going forward
00:41:00.56\00:41:02.76
and what's happening so
there is the other reasons why.
00:41:02.77\00:41:05.78
And it's, it's
only fair that a person
00:41:05.79\00:41:07.85
be fully aware of cognized
of what is expected of them,
00:41:07.86\00:41:12.97
once they join a church of God.
00:41:12.98\00:41:14.50
So you need to teach and preach
00:41:14.51\00:41:16.09
and instruct, then baptize.
00:41:16.10\00:41:17.79
So it's only fair that you know,
00:41:17.80\00:41:19.75
if you're going to become
00:41:19.76\00:41:20.90
a "card carry"
member of this organization,
00:41:20.91\00:41:23.60
you know the rules
of the road. Right.
00:41:23.61\00:41:25.84
You know, what was going on.
00:41:25.85\00:41:27.21
So you, baptism
is a cognitive thing,
00:41:27.22\00:41:29.98
I understand, I have a
working relation with Jesus,
00:41:29.99\00:41:32.61
I know what Jesus expects of me,
00:41:32.62\00:41:34.64
so now I want the
world to know that
00:41:34.65\00:41:37.01
I accept what Christ
expects of me more than that
00:41:37.02\00:41:40.09
I follow it gladly,
because I want to be
00:41:40.10\00:41:42.16
one with Him. Right.
00:41:42.17\00:41:43.28
Yeah. Amen.
00:41:43.29\00:41:44.92
Thank you so much
for your questions,
00:41:44.93\00:41:46.52
they've been
very, very good today.
00:41:46.53\00:41:48.02
And we are, they are everyday,
00:41:48.03\00:41:50.24
but we really enjoy
the variety of topics
00:41:50.25\00:41:52.38
and the
questions that you bring.
00:41:52.39\00:41:54.50
And make sure you
send those questions into
00:41:54.51\00:41:56.58
housecalls@3abn.org,
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00:41:56.59\00:42:01.66
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00:42:01.67\00:42:02.98
You can even
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00:42:02.99\00:42:04.68
and they will make sure
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00:42:04.69\00:42:06.59
on our email address.
00:42:06.60\00:42:08.63
So thank you
again for doing that,
00:42:08.64\00:42:10.46
for being part of our program.
00:42:10.47\00:42:12.91
Pastor we're gonna continue
00:42:12.92\00:42:14.19
and hopefully
conclude our topic here today,
00:42:14.20\00:42:17.91
and its part two of
the topic really on,
00:42:17.92\00:42:20.22
Jesus, as Savior
and Lord. Lord, yeah.
00:42:20.23\00:42:23.25
And what the two differences are
00:42:23.26\00:42:24.91
and I think we, we
really have begun to dive
00:42:24.92\00:42:27.35
into the lordship aspect of,
00:42:27.36\00:42:29.70
Jesus, in our
relationship with Him
00:42:29.71\00:42:31.42
and what all is
involved with that
00:42:31.43\00:42:34.88
and to kind of
springboard today,
00:42:34.89\00:42:36.43
I though I would
read a text here,
00:42:36.44\00:42:38.67
to show how important,
Jesus, actually several text
00:42:38.68\00:42:42.43
how important
Jesus felt or believed,
00:42:42.44\00:42:45.73
it was, knew it was, for
those who were being saved
00:42:45.74\00:42:50.17
by His work to
also be led by Him
00:42:50.18\00:42:53.50
in discipleship as their Lord
00:42:53.51\00:42:56.49
and of course their Savior. Yes.
00:42:56.50\00:42:58.52
And so I've got a few texts,
00:42:58.53\00:42:59.58
that I like to
read the first one is
00:42:59.59\00:43:00.97
Matthew 7:21 to 23 and
then there is couple others
00:43:00.98\00:43:06.93
that we'll, we'll
share here as well.
00:43:06.94\00:43:10.98
Before I read this, I
just like to make a comment
00:43:10.99\00:43:15.09
that the words, Lord,
Lord, repeated back to back
00:43:15.10\00:43:20.57
only occur four times.
00:43:20.58\00:43:23.05
And it's not an
exclamation point
00:43:23.06\00:43:26.08
where the translator
decided to just put Lord twice.
00:43:26.09\00:43:29.71
Jesus is saying
these words twice
00:43:29.72\00:43:32.21
and He seems to be
emphasizing something
00:43:32.22\00:43:34.02
and you will find a
similar vein of thought
00:43:34.03\00:43:36.73
context into what
He is saying by this,
00:43:36.74\00:43:40.60
by repeating this word.
00:43:40.61\00:43:42.32
And I think
you'll also begin to see
00:43:42.33\00:43:43.87
the importance of
calling, Jesus Lord.
00:43:43.88\00:43:46.86
And the difference
between those who do
00:43:46.87\00:43:48.96
and those who don't.
00:43:48.97\00:43:50.72
Matthew 7 verse 21 it says,
00:43:50.73\00:43:53.59
"Not everyone who
says to me, 'Lord, Lord,"
00:43:53.60\00:43:56.96
there is the first
time that we see this here
00:43:56.97\00:43:59.11
'Lord, Lord' shall
enter the kingdom of heaven,
00:43:59.12\00:44:02.21
but he who does the
will of my father in heaven.
00:44:02.22\00:44:06.83
Many will say to me in that day,
00:44:06.84\00:44:08.39
Lord, Lord, have we not
prophesied in Your name?
00:44:08.40\00:44:12.27
Cast out demons in your name?
00:44:12.28\00:44:14.14
And they're many
wonders in your name?
00:44:14.15\00:44:16.56
And then I will declare to them,
00:44:16.57\00:44:18.73
'I never knew
you, depart from me,
00:44:18.74\00:44:21.15
you who practice lawlessness".
00:44:21.16\00:44:24.53
So boring words
to even contemplate,
00:44:24.54\00:44:27.89
you know, for but
they happen to any of us.
00:44:27.90\00:44:31.05
But here he uses this
the term Lord, Lord. Yes.
00:44:31.06\00:44:35.41
And He is
emphasizing something here.
00:44:35.42\00:44:37.56
God doesn't just repeat
things twice for no reason
00:44:37.57\00:44:40.54
and He seems to talking about
00:44:40.55\00:44:41.81
those who go
around and call Him Lord
00:44:41.82\00:44:44.22
almost frivolously. Yes.
00:44:44.23\00:44:46.28
But aren't really
doing what a person
00:44:46.29\00:44:49.94
who makes
someone their Lord does,
00:44:49.95\00:44:52.58
they're not disciples,
they don't follow Him,
00:44:52.59\00:44:54.38
they don't obey Him,
00:44:54.39\00:44:55.36
they don't live
according to His ways.
00:44:55.37\00:44:57.15
In fact they tell Him
00:44:57.16\00:44:58.13
that those who
obey Him are legalism,
00:44:58.14\00:44:59.70
into legalism
instead of, you know,
00:44:59.71\00:45:01.90
what we know is just someone
00:45:01.91\00:45:03.10
who follows who loves the Lord,
00:45:03.11\00:45:04.35
wants to do the things that
00:45:04.36\00:45:05.39
their Lord
tells them to do. Yes.
00:45:05.40\00:45:07.43
Anyway so this is the problem,
00:45:07.44\00:45:08.82
and that will
happen at the end of time,
00:45:08.83\00:45:10.15
I believe its
happening today. Powerful.
00:45:10.16\00:45:14.36
And I think, there
are many people who,
00:45:14.37\00:45:18.34
because of
calling on the Lord assume
00:45:18.35\00:45:21.98
that all is well with the Lord.
00:45:21.99\00:45:23.70
And we'll be surprised to know
00:45:23.71\00:45:26.54
that even claiming Him is not,
00:45:26.55\00:45:30.61
is not enough,
even a history of Him
00:45:30.62\00:45:35.00
tiding up your
mistakes is not enough.
00:45:35.01\00:45:38.15
As we're alluded in
there what, alluded to,
00:45:38.16\00:45:40.43
we said it in the last program,
00:45:40.44\00:45:42.34
it's not enough to
have Jesus, as your butler,
00:45:42.35\00:45:45.74
or your sanitation
worker to cleanup behind you,
00:45:45.75\00:45:49.46
you want to put
Him in the front seat
00:45:49.47\00:45:51.43
as an old friend of mine
in Cleveland used to say.
00:45:51.44\00:45:54.45
You want Him driving the bus,
00:45:54.46\00:45:56.03
you know, and you
following in His steps
00:45:56.04\00:45:59.21
which will keep you from making
00:45:59.22\00:46:00.45
so many future mistakes. Yeah.
00:46:00.46\00:46:02.25
And guarantees you that,
00:46:02.26\00:46:03.76
that you're still
one with the Lord.
00:46:03.77\00:46:05.98
You know, that's
the good way in putting,
00:46:05.99\00:46:06.96
because you know,
we've been talking about it
00:46:06.97\00:46:09.19
in different
ways but, as a Savior
00:46:09.20\00:46:11.81
He has cleanup your past. Yeah.
00:46:11.82\00:46:13.29
You know, you
can't repeat that. Yeah.
00:46:13.30\00:46:15.28
He took your sins upon Him
and He died for those sins.
00:46:15.29\00:46:19.45
And the sins of
the future as well,
00:46:19.46\00:46:20.83
but the lordship of Christ
is really about your ongoing,
00:46:20.84\00:46:23.32
your forward
relationship with Him. Yes.
00:46:23.33\00:46:24.86
You got to put Him first.
00:46:24.87\00:46:26.06
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
and I got that illusion,
00:46:26.07\00:46:29.64
so many people
say, they want a maid,
00:46:29.65\00:46:31.27
they want someone to
just cleanup their mistakes.
00:46:31.28\00:46:33.53
And Jesus will do that,
He has promised to do that,
00:46:33.54\00:46:35.79
but He has also
promised to cleanse
00:46:35.80\00:46:37.25
and to keep you,
right, from sinning.
00:46:37.26\00:46:41.47
He that, that is in
Christ does not sin,
00:46:41.48\00:46:44.11
or does not continue
to sin, Hebrews tells us,
00:46:44.12\00:46:47.21
because the
power of God is working
00:46:47.22\00:46:48.60
and so we need more than
just a butler or maid. Yeah.
00:46:48.61\00:46:51.68
We need somebody to
come in and keep us from sin.
00:46:51.69\00:46:55.59
You know, it's
one of the reasons
00:46:55.60\00:46:56.79
I think I've had a problem
with the phrase God saved.
00:46:56.80\00:47:01.27
I mean, I know
what He's meant by that,
00:47:01.28\00:47:04.95
but there are
sometimes the term is used
00:47:04.96\00:47:07.71
so just like got milk.
00:47:07.72\00:47:10.68
I mean, I got saved
00:47:10.69\00:47:13.53
and I understand getting saved,
00:47:13.54\00:47:15.47
we are saved when we
accept Christ as our Savior,
00:47:15.48\00:47:17.77
but if you talk about
it as just a past event
00:47:17.78\00:47:22.54
and not ongoing
salvation experience as Him
00:47:22.55\00:47:25.72
being your Lord of
your-- The Lord of your life.
00:47:25.73\00:47:28.47
Then you can almost
forget that you wherever lost,
00:47:28.48\00:47:32.31
or that you're still not
worthy of what He gives you.
00:47:32.32\00:47:35.85
You know, that's very true.
00:47:35.86\00:47:36.83
There is a very
subtle shade of meaning.
00:47:36.84\00:47:39.87
I got saved, it's like okay
00:47:39.88\00:47:41.59
we, we put it on
switch, is on position
00:47:41.60\00:47:43.87
and it's just
runs on its own. Yeah.
00:47:43.88\00:47:46.47
The danger is you can forget
00:47:46.48\00:47:48.59
about the
necessity of daily surrender
00:47:48.60\00:47:50.87
and walking with Christ. Yeah.
00:47:50.88\00:47:52.71
I turned nothing on last week,
00:47:52.72\00:47:54.37
its still run, you know,
no, you've got to watch it
00:47:54.38\00:47:57.59
and make sure that.
00:47:57.60\00:47:58.57
I brought a few
into it for years.
00:47:58.58\00:48:00.21
That's right. Yeah, it runs.
00:48:00.22\00:48:02.27
It still run and
I've checked it lately,
00:48:02.28\00:48:03.66
but it's still running,
so you assume that is on,
00:48:03.67\00:48:07.71
when it maybe
off, yeah very much so.
00:48:07.72\00:48:10.27
You know, and that is really
00:48:10.28\00:48:11.31
what's happening in
this verse we just read.
00:48:11.32\00:48:13.29
These people are
calling Jesus their Lord,
00:48:13.30\00:48:15.60
they're talking about Him.
00:48:15.61\00:48:16.81
They're performing
miracles in His name
00:48:16.82\00:48:18.74
and they don't even know
Him, in fact they are lost.
00:48:18.75\00:48:20.82
So to say that I
believe that once you're saved,
00:48:20.83\00:48:24.15
you're always saved.
00:48:24.16\00:48:26.20
Flies in the face of
good biblical interpretation,
00:48:26.21\00:48:31.16
because they are
clearly some experiences
00:48:31.17\00:48:33.27
of those
including the ones that,
00:48:33.28\00:48:35.18
Jesus, is speaking of here.
00:48:35.19\00:48:36.66
We find other references,
Peter, Peter talks about,
00:48:36.67\00:48:39.19
you know, those who have
00:48:39.20\00:48:40.17
tasted the
goodness of God. Yes, yes.
00:48:40.18\00:48:42.22
That is impossible to
renew them to salvation,
00:48:42.23\00:48:45.17
it's clear they've walk away,
00:48:45.18\00:48:46.60
they stepped away
and they are lost.
00:48:46.61\00:48:49.29
John, in First John talks about
00:48:49.30\00:48:51.13
those who commit sins unto death
00:48:51.14\00:48:53.53
and those
committing sins not unto death
00:48:53.54\00:48:55.31
speaking of those
who have basically
00:48:55.32\00:48:57.89
put the Lord out of their life
00:48:57.90\00:48:58.87
and want to nothing to do it,
00:48:58.88\00:48:59.85
they won't written Him off
those leading to death. Yeah.
00:48:59.86\00:49:02.63
Or those who
are committing sins,
00:49:02.64\00:49:04.75
but it's in the context
of their relationship with,
00:49:04.76\00:49:07.11
Jesus, as their Savior
00:49:07.12\00:49:08.09
and they want
to do what's right,
00:49:08.10\00:49:09.24
He is saving
them from their sins.
00:49:09.25\00:49:10.91
Precisely, and it's a great,
a great, great point, John.
00:49:10.92\00:49:14.10
The Bible says,
"brethren I write this thing
00:49:14.11\00:49:16.31
that you sin not.
00:49:16.32\00:49:17.66
But if you sin, you've
got advocate of father.
00:49:17.67\00:49:20.24
Now how do you
get in that state,
00:49:20.25\00:49:21.80
because you have an
existing relationship
00:49:21.81\00:49:23.46
with Christ. That's right.
00:49:23.47\00:49:24.44
I am writing to you
that, that you don't sin.
00:49:24.45\00:49:26.30
I don't want you to sin,
but if you make a mistake,
00:49:26.31\00:49:29.19
sin not unto death you have
an advocate with the father.
00:49:29.20\00:49:32.86
So on a kind of
your relationship,
00:49:32.87\00:49:34.90
or given the context
of your relationship,
00:49:34.91\00:49:37.17
Christ, is there
taking care of that sin. Yeah.
00:49:37.18\00:49:39.75
You know, you're
driving on the road
00:49:39.76\00:49:42.53
and you're
trying to get somebody
00:49:42.54\00:49:43.51
and somebody cuts you
off, you don't say anything
00:49:43.52\00:49:44.89
but something pops
in your brain. Right.
00:49:44.90\00:49:46.17
That's a sin. Right.
00:49:46.18\00:49:47.18
Never comes out of your mouth,
00:49:47.19\00:49:48.16
but is there. Right.
00:49:48.17\00:49:49.14
You know, it's there,
Jesus, knows its there.
00:49:49.15\00:49:51.59
You've got someone
to cover that you know,
00:49:51.60\00:49:53.68
because you've got an
existing relationship,
00:49:53.69\00:49:55.79
a faith based
relationship with God
00:49:55.80\00:49:58.21
and something just kind
of jumped on you real fast
00:49:58.22\00:50:00.18
and you repent of
it, you confess it.
00:50:00.19\00:50:01.99
It's gone. That's right.
00:50:02.00\00:50:03.41
Yeah it's gone and,
Christ, guarantees you its gone.
00:50:03.42\00:50:06.63
So it's not, it's not
going to stand in the way,
00:50:06.64\00:50:08.59
because it's dealt
with, because you got it
00:50:08.60\00:50:10.51
and it hasn't
changed your relationship.
00:50:10.52\00:50:12.93
That's right.
You are still saved.
00:50:12.94\00:50:14.53
You made a mistake,
00:50:14.54\00:50:15.57
Jesus, is there
covering that mistake.
00:50:15.58\00:50:18.12
This is so important,
because there are some
00:50:18.13\00:50:20.25
who are discouraged as the lady
00:50:20.26\00:50:21.86
that we talked about
before in one of questions
00:50:21.87\00:50:23.91
that they committed a sin,
00:50:23.92\00:50:24.91
or their life isn't as stable
00:50:24.92\00:50:27.56
in their relationship
with God as it should be.
00:50:27.57\00:50:30.29
And they think
they are constantly
00:50:30.30\00:50:32.66
when they are at
church they are saved
00:50:32.67\00:50:34.46
and then they leave
the church for the weekend
00:50:34.47\00:50:35.65
and then they are
lost and they are saved
00:50:35.66\00:50:37.39
and then they are lost. Yeah.
00:50:37.40\00:50:38.60
You know, what this
scripture you are talking about
00:50:38.61\00:50:41.04
First John the
last part of verse 1
00:50:41.05\00:50:43.49
and the end of Chapter 2 about
00:50:43.50\00:50:45.90
that we have an
advocate with the Father,
00:50:45.91\00:50:47.32
Jesus Christ, of
righteous if we sin.
00:50:47.33\00:50:49.69
What is going on with, Jesus,
in the heavenly sanctuary,
00:50:49.70\00:50:52.53
is in our relationship
with Him as our Savior,
00:50:52.54\00:50:54.67
as we're walking
with Him as our Lord,
00:50:54.68\00:50:57.06
He is cleansing our path.
00:50:57.07\00:50:58.19
But if we sin,
He doesn't hesitate
00:50:58.20\00:51:01.69
to apply the blood, right.
00:51:01.70\00:51:03.77
It's not like He
sins and He is like okay,
00:51:03.78\00:51:06.15
is He gonna repent?
00:51:06.16\00:51:07.32
This isn't the picture
of, Jesus, that's going on.
00:51:07.33\00:51:09.24
He is our advocate,
00:51:09.25\00:51:10.78
the moment you sin the
blood is being applied,
00:51:10.79\00:51:14.69
He is covering your sin
00:51:14.70\00:51:16.33
because of the relationship
that He has with you.
00:51:16.34\00:51:18.62
It's not like
"oops, you're exposed,
00:51:18.63\00:51:20.53
oops, you're not,
oops, you're exposed."
00:51:20.54\00:51:23.47
Those that have that idea
00:51:23.48\00:51:25.19
about their
relationship with the Christ,
00:51:25.20\00:51:26.65
there is no stability,
00:51:26.66\00:51:28.05
I can see why
they are so concerned
00:51:28.06\00:51:30.84
about whether or
not they are saved,
00:51:30.85\00:51:32.11
or they are lost where even,
00:51:32.12\00:51:33.96
Sister White, in
one of the quotes
00:51:33.97\00:51:35.21
she says very clearly.
00:51:35.22\00:51:37.06
It's not the
occasional deeds and misdeeds,
00:51:37.07\00:51:39.52
it's the trend of
the life of making,
00:51:39.53\00:51:42.64
Jesus, your Lord
and trusting that
00:51:42.65\00:51:44.92
He has saved you in the process.
00:51:44.93\00:51:47.03
To do otherwise
would make serving, Christ,
00:51:47.04\00:51:49.85
a depressing
exercise almost infidelity,
00:51:49.86\00:51:53.97
because Paul says
that which I want to do
00:51:53.98\00:51:57.38
I don't do that which I had no,
00:51:57.39\00:51:59.23
I have no business
doing that's what I am doing.
00:51:59.24\00:52:02.48
How do I get
out from under that?
00:52:02.49\00:52:04.24
How do I seize that
round of sinning and repenting,
00:52:04.25\00:52:06.67
sinning and repenting?
00:52:06.68\00:52:07.83
How do I get out of
that depressing state
00:52:07.84\00:52:10.04
into a
victorious life with Christ?
00:52:10.05\00:52:12.49
Well, you've
got to relationship,
00:52:12.50\00:52:14.51
you've got faith
00:52:14.52\00:52:15.54
and if there is an
occasional mistake made,
00:52:15.55\00:52:18.39
you repent, you confess,
00:52:18.40\00:52:20.72
you are
forgiven, and you move on.
00:52:20.73\00:52:23.08
Your relationship with
Christ has not been destroyed,
00:52:23.09\00:52:26.18
it hasn't been altered,
00:52:26.19\00:52:27.61
the relationship is still there.
00:52:27.62\00:52:29.26
You made a mistake,
00:52:29.27\00:52:30.87
and of course the
more Christ works in you
00:52:30.88\00:52:33.43
and with you and through you,
00:52:33.44\00:52:35.18
those stumbling blocks
become stepping stones,
00:52:35.19\00:52:37.62
so you actually do
make less mistakes,
00:52:37.63\00:52:40.41
so the next time that
somebody does something,
00:52:40.42\00:52:43.24
you handle it
because Christ is in,
00:52:43.25\00:52:45.16
its like a good friend of mine
00:52:45.17\00:52:46.49
brought a brand new Oldsmobile,
00:52:46.50\00:52:47.67
pastor,
president of a conference.
00:52:47.68\00:52:50.12
Took it upstairs
for about one week
00:52:50.13\00:52:52.65
and came down and
all four doors were gone.
00:52:52.66\00:52:55.67
Somebody needed
four doors, they took it.
00:52:55.68\00:52:58.46
He didn't have
2,000 miles on a car,
00:52:58.47\00:53:00.54
he went upstairs
and he played the piano,
00:53:00.55\00:53:01.79
he just played
"Jesus, Savior, Pilot Me"
00:53:01.80\00:53:03.90
for about two hours,
prayed and he came on to work,
00:53:03.91\00:53:07.62
in a rental car while
they were fixing his car.
00:53:07.63\00:53:09.57
Now he said years ago
I'd have blown my stick,
00:53:09.58\00:53:11.76
I'd have just gone ballistic,
00:53:11.77\00:53:13.67
but I have grown
in, Christ Jesus,
00:53:13.68\00:53:16.18
and that's part of the relation,
00:53:16.19\00:53:17.52
you grow in Christ.
00:53:17.53\00:53:18.81
So the things you used to do,
00:53:18.82\00:53:20.96
you don't do them
anymore because you grow.
00:53:20.97\00:53:22.64
The littlest
things, you can even sense
00:53:22.65\00:53:25.41
the Lord convicted to
me just on a similar thing
00:53:25.42\00:53:27.32
the other day is that I was
trying to pop a soda can off,
00:53:27.33\00:53:31.68
I mean to, to open it
and that the tab broke
00:53:31.69\00:53:35.32
so I was
struggling to push my finger
00:53:35.33\00:53:36.80
and I thought you know, what
00:53:36.81\00:53:37.78
I'm gonna rip up
my thumb if I do that.
00:53:37.79\00:53:39.37
So then I grabbed a
spoon and push it to boom,
00:53:39.38\00:53:42.92
I mean
everywhere. I was in a hurry.
00:53:42.93\00:53:47.13
A while ago, I would have gone,
00:53:47.14\00:53:48.30
oh and gotten so upset
and I said grab the thing
00:53:48.31\00:53:51.55
and just towel and I
cleaned it up. Yeah, yeah.
00:53:51.56\00:53:54.07
And the Lord
convicted me right there,
00:53:54.08\00:53:55.48
see you are coming along.
00:53:55.49\00:53:58.66
And I praised him for that,
00:53:58.67\00:54:00.05
you know, that
Lord you're changing me
00:54:00.06\00:54:01.44
and so the little
things He does work on.
00:54:01.45\00:54:04.46
We got to mention this,
this doctrine of one saved
00:54:04.47\00:54:06.87
always saved has taken
people out of any kind of
00:54:06.88\00:54:10.90
accountability level
with making Jesus their Lord.
00:54:10.91\00:54:15.25
The God saved part is
done, the savior part is done,
00:54:15.26\00:54:17.66
but the lordship, the
life being changed by God,
00:54:17.67\00:54:20.83
you know, it
doesn't matter what I do,
00:54:20.84\00:54:22.28
He has already saved me,
that is the tool of the enemy
00:54:22.29\00:54:25.57
and he has used it very,
very well to get people secured
00:54:25.58\00:54:28.50
when they really according
to this scripture we just read,
00:54:28.51\00:54:31.76
they should not be so secured.
00:54:31.77\00:54:33.00
Yeah, yeah, you know,
I use to host a talk show
00:54:33.01\00:54:36.02
on another network
and one of the things
00:54:36.03\00:54:37.60
I ran up against continuing
where people saying that
00:54:37.61\00:54:40.48
I don't have to
change my lifestyle,
00:54:40.49\00:54:43.09
I am saved and I don't have
00:54:43.10\00:54:46.26
to give fruit of my salvation,
00:54:46.27\00:54:47.59
I don't have any evidence
of my salvation, I am saved.
00:54:47.60\00:54:50.85
I was saved in 1909,
it's 2010, I am still saved.
00:54:50.86\00:54:57.72
Well, have you
changed your life? No.
00:54:57.73\00:54:58.92
Have you done any?
No. Are you walking?
00:54:58.93\00:55:00.86
No, but I was
saved, I gave mine to Lord
00:55:00.87\00:55:03.05
and that's it, it's
on autopilot as it were.
00:55:03.06\00:55:05.00
And I don't have to give
any fruit for my repentance
00:55:05.01\00:55:07.91
and it's the trick of the devil,
00:55:07.92\00:55:10.17
to think you can
live any kind of way
00:55:10.18\00:55:12.71
and still be saved. Right.
00:55:12.72\00:55:13.91
It's not, it's not so,
00:55:13.92\00:55:14.89
so that's not
what we are saying.
00:55:14.90\00:55:17.31
And so there are some
of the other verses here
00:55:17.32\00:55:19.48
that repeat this Lord, Lord,
from the verse we just read,
00:55:19.49\00:55:22.79
Matthew 25:11 and 12,
00:55:22.80\00:55:25.58
talking about the ten virgins,
00:55:25.59\00:55:26.77
the ones that did not
make it into the wedding
00:55:26.78\00:55:30.77
" those virgins
came also it says,
00:55:30.78\00:55:32.69
saying Lord, Lord open to us."
00:55:32.70\00:55:36.39
Here is another one Luke 6:46.
00:55:36.40\00:55:38.59
Why do you call me,
Jesus says Lord, Lord,
00:55:38.60\00:55:40.89
and do not do the
things that I say? Yes.
00:55:40.90\00:55:43.94
So clearly
there is a professing,
00:55:43.95\00:55:46.91
but not the follow up
with a change of the life
00:55:46.92\00:55:50.11
or making, Jesus,
Lord of their life.
00:55:50.12\00:55:53.39
Yeah, that's a critical
ploy dare I say of the enemy
00:55:53.40\00:55:57.12
to make you think that
you can just call the name
00:55:57.13\00:56:00.86
and not walk to
walk, and talk to talk
00:56:00.87\00:56:02.97
and not live the life.
00:56:02.98\00:56:04.90
Satan have us to
think that just call a name
00:56:04.91\00:56:07.22
and you were in and you
are fine, but it's not so.
00:56:07.23\00:56:09.56
Right, you know, kind
of a last thought here is,
00:56:09.57\00:56:12.33
we are beginning to close this,
00:56:12.34\00:56:13.91
you know Christ lordship
00:56:13.92\00:56:15.00
is about Christ
authority in our life,
00:56:15.01\00:56:16.60
giving him the bus
driving responsibility
00:56:16.61\00:56:20.09
and He knows we sat here
or letting Him just drive if,
00:56:20.10\00:56:22.43
you know, take the wheel
with giving Him the authority
00:56:22.44\00:56:26.70
only then do we receive power.
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The power comes with authority
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and if I am not
giving Him the authority,
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I am not getting any power.
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And that's the challenge
for the Christian life,
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why so many people I think
are without power to have it
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relinquish the power to Christ.
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Yes, yes, that's
very, very powerful,
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wish we had few minutes
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and we don't to talk
about that aspect of it,
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because there are times
when you can stop doing sin,
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just because you will it.
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There are other days
when your will is nothing
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and you need,
Christ, all the time.
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Yeah, yeah, you are
gonna be victorious.
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Making Him Lord
of your life means
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that you are
saying I know I don't
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I'm tired of
doing this on my own.
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Lord, I want you
to take the wheel.
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I want You to
do this in my life.
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I want You to make the changes
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and I want You to
provide me with the power
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and strength to these
things, so that as Paul, says
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its Christ living in me
not me living my own life
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by my own will
power. Yes, yes, very true.
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I just pray that will
be your experience today
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as you are saved
by the life of Christ
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and also you make
Him Lord of your life.
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Why don't you ask Him to
come into your life again today.
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